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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Wednesday, November thirteenth. I've got to say last

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Speaker 2: night officially felt like the start of basketball season. College

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Speaker 2: hoops was popping off. Cooper Flag versus Kentucky. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about it in a second. The NBA Cup started, and

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Speaker 2: oh man, the action was so damn good. Obviously we'll

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Speaker 2: get to Clay shortly. But in addition to the NBA,

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Speaker 2: we've got a great NFL guest today. It's a new

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Speaker 2: guy making his debut on the pod. Saad Yusef for

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Speaker 2: the Atlantic Athletic. I'm sorry for the Athletic. He covers

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys and they are currently a massive dumpster fire.

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Speaker 2: You've got coach drama, Michael Parsons drama, Ceedee Lamb chirping,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's out for the year. It is right now

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Speaker 2: in Dallas. They are cratering and it's looking like they're

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Speaker 2: headed to a top five pick. Is is the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Cowboys job? When McCarthy gets run and he will, is

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Speaker 2: that job even a good one? Like you bring in Belichick?

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Speaker 2: He walks in the door, and he says, okay, what

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Speaker 2: do we got here? Open the book show me and

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Speaker 2: the first thing you see is Dak Prescott's ginormous salary,

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Speaker 2: and that hinders what you can do. They couldn't add

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Speaker 2: just like, I don't we'll talk about it. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's as good of a job as other people think.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get to that shortly. Let me quickly hit.

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Speaker 1: On the hoops.

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Speaker 2: So I'll start with Cooper Flag and Duke. So if

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Speaker 2: you watched it, listen, ESPN is pushing the hell out

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Speaker 2: of Cooper Flag as well they should. He is a

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Speaker 2: I don't think I can use the word transcendent talent,

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Speaker 2: but everybody knew who he was. He was basically playing

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Speaker 2: against Anthony Davison Team USA this summer in the scrimmages

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Speaker 2: and holding his own or more than that, if you

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Speaker 2: look up on YouTube, I mean the guy can go.

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Speaker 2: And he was facing Kentucky last night. It was a

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Speaker 2: great game, came down to the end, and listen, it

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Speaker 2: was a tough ending for Cooper Flag. He had twenty

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Speaker 2: six and twelve, okay, but in the final twenty five seconds.

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Speaker 2: Duke had two possessions and they went to flag both times,

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Speaker 2: and he turned it over both times. Now, listen, he's

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Speaker 2: a six nine six ' ten guy handling the ball.

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Speaker 2: The shot looks good, the free throw stroke is impeccable,

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Speaker 2: and the three point stroke looks good. They just weren't falling.

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Speaker 2: Duke couldn't make any three's. They were four out of

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Speaker 2: twenty two and ended up losing to Kentucky. I felt

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Speaker 2: like Kentucky's got the better overall team. Now it's early

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Speaker 2: and Duke has a ton of new faces, but overall,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky played pretty damn good, came back and won flag

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Speaker 2: was the story. Though people are gonna freak out about

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Speaker 2: the two turnovers late whatever, Who cares. He's seventeen And

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Speaker 2: it's crazy because I looked this up. The starting center

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Speaker 2: for Kentucky is a senior from England, Amari Williams. He

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Speaker 2: previously was a Drexel right, and he looks good. He

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Speaker 2: looks pretty good for Kentucky. And then you go to

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Speaker 2: the Ken Pom website. I'm sure you guys have a description.

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Speaker 2: If you're following college troops are gambling, you've got to

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Speaker 2: have a Ken pomp subscription, and I go to the

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Speaker 2: Kentucky web page and they have all the guy's birthdays

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Speaker 2: on there, which is a nice touch. You can't find

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Speaker 2: that on most sites. I go to Amari Williams for Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty two years old, turns twenty three in like

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Speaker 2: two months. Okay, Cooper Flag is seventeen, turns eighteen next month.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we're dealing with here. Basically a

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Speaker 2: nearly twenty three year old going up against a nearly

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Speaker 2: just throwing bodies at him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he kept him in the game. Duke didn't

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Speaker 2: have much outside of him, but overall, a great, high

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Speaker 2: opposite the NBA. And listen, the NBA was very good

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I know there's a bunch of NBA haters. Oh NBA

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Speaker 2: who cares? Fine, you don't care. I do. Like the

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Speaker 2: Celtics go down. The Detroit Pistons ran an amazing play

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Speaker 2: with one second left to score, and then Spolster calls

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Speaker 2: give up the free throws, and they lose. It was

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Speaker 2: just a great night in the league, highlighted, of course,

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Speaker 2: by Clay Thompson's return to the Bay Area. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not one of these nostalgic dudes when it comes to like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I did tune in for the Clay tribute and I'm

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Speaker 2: just telling you the video. I put it on my

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Speaker 2: Instagram stories. It's awesome and it's gonna be everywhere. It's

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Speaker 2: just a great tribute video. And the weird thing is,

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Speaker 2: you know, Clay's still playing and still pretty pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not what he was, but nobody, none

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Speaker 2: and Curry had a little back and forth jaw jacking.

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Speaker 2: First play the game, of course, Clay posting up Curry,

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Speaker 2: then one of these other celebrations that Curry does, and

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Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun stuff. The NBA needs that. I

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Speaker 2: just thought it was great. I'm real, I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 2: I am so surprised by how good the Warriors are.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a testament to Steve Kerr's coaching.

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Speaker 2: And it's also probably a little teams are just shell

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Speaker 2: the playoffs are gonna be a different animal and all that.

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Speaker 2: But a fun game. MAVs Warriors. Jannis by the way,

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Speaker 2: Yannis and the Bucks were victorious, And I will wrap

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Speaker 2: up before we get to the interview real quick. Joel

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Speaker 2: young kid, the TikTok guy, Jared McCain. It's funny. My

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Speaker 2: are you aware of this duke guard who's gonna be

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Speaker 2: all the lyrics to one shining moment because I randomly

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Speaker 2: And McCain is shooting it well. I think, come come

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Speaker 2: playoff time. Assuming the Sixers make it, they should, he's

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Speaker 2: a nice young little player. But anyways, I just loved

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Speaker 2: the hoops last night. A lot of fun. Anyways, without

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Speaker 2: further ado, let's get to our guest. His name is

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Speaker 2: sad Yusef from the athletic.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 1: fans wants, but for everything he doesn't. He knows a

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Speaker 3: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 3: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire a new name,

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Speaker 2: a new face, and listen with what the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: talk to us. Michael Parsons, Mike mccarr. It's a disaster

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Speaker 2: in Dallas, Dak Prescott's done for the year. Let's bring

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Speaker 2: on sad use of from the athletics.

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Speaker 3: Sod.

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Speaker 2: How are you, man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Like you said, no shortage and storylines

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Speaker 2: Yeah, never a dull moment in Dallas. I mean, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 2: it's all been a disaster, terrible season. I'm just curious, like,

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Speaker 2: let's just step back for a moment, and I'm just

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Speaker 2: curious as things are unfolding, do you feel like you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. Sometimes it does. It does feel

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Speaker 3: like just really just a soap opera all together. And

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Speaker 3: you know, covering this team is such a different experience

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Speaker 3: look at this past week and the Cowboys lose to

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Speaker 3: I guess you could call it. But after the game,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, man, that Ezekiel Elliott fumble inside the

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Speaker 3: and that was bad, especially given his issues. Shall we

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Speaker 2: Finger needs to be blamed. Everybody's pointing at Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 2: but he's the owner, he's a billionaire, He's impervious to

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's plenty of blame to go around,

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Speaker 3: a fan of the show The Office, but there's a

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Speaker 3: then it all comes back to Michael Scott like he's

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Speaker 3: problems for sure to go around. There's plenty of blame,

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Speaker 3: it's just it all stems from Jerry Jones. It all

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Speaker 3: goes back to Jerry Jones. Because let's be clear, Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott's out for the season. He was having a bad year.

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Speaker 3: Even I understand the offensive line was struggling. I understand

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Speaker 3: but you look at his red zone turnovers and everything

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Speaker 3: that he was going through. He wasn't having a great

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Speaker 3: having a tough year. There's a lot of blame to

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Speaker 3: go around. But like you said, it all starts with

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, and I think that's a fair way to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And unfortunately that makes it sound like easy. Oh well,

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Speaker 2: blame the owner of the billionaire, you know, blame Woody

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Speaker 2: So funny, I'm gonna ask this, but we're doing a

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Speaker 3: So you know, he's a great players, great at getting

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Speaker 3: as much as it does on the field.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, nobody's gonna trade for Dak, But I am curious,

431
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Speaker 2: like any coach who wants a good job.

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Speaker 3: You need a.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback obviously in the NFL, and then if you have

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Speaker 2: a quarterback on the rookie deal, it's like, oh my gosh,

435
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Speaker 2: that's a slam dunk. I asked about this Dallas job

436
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Speaker 2: because Dak's contract is so ownerous. You have to hit

437
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Speaker 2: on every draft pick and there's just not a lot

438
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Speaker 2: of wiggle room. Do you think a guy like the

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Speaker 2: Boise State running back Genty, let's say they got him

440
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Speaker 2: at I'm just hype. It's the spitballing nine in the draft.

441
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Speaker 2: Is this team gonna be transformed? Do you think I

442
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Speaker 2: mean adding a running back from Boise State?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, because they are thirty first

444
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Speaker 3: this year and the running in rush yards per game

445
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. They're thirty first. But if anybody watches

446
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 3: the team, they know that this is not They don't

447
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: have running back capital, don't get me wrong. Rico Dubdell

448
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: and a washed up Zeke Elliott or not the answer.

449
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 3: But the offensive line has been pretty bad as well.

450
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Speaker 3: This is not an Ashton Genty away from you know,

451
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Speaker 3: becoming you know, the Baltimore Ravens running attack. So I

452
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Speaker 3: think that there's And by the way, up until the

453
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Speaker 3: Dak's last game, Joe Flacco had more rushing yards than

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott this season. So when you're when you're talking

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Speaker 3: about all these different factors that you have, it goes beyond.

456
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Speaker 3: It is beyond a one player fix, which is also

457
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Speaker 3: why frankly it was it was a little surprising, and

458
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Speaker 3: you know, I guess head scratching for them to trade

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Speaker 3: for Jonathan Mingo and forfeit their fourth round pick for

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Speaker 3: this year. I understand Mingo's under contract for two more

461
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Speaker 3: years under a rookie deal, and I get that, but

462
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Speaker 3: to your point, they need as many years on rookie

463
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Speaker 3: contracts as possible, so they basically forfeited two years of

464
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Speaker 3: a rookie deal to go get a wide receiver who

465
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Speaker 3: couldn't even crack the rotation in Carolina. So there's a

466
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Speaker 3: lot of head scratching decisions. And to your point with

467
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Speaker 3: Dak's contract, I do think Dak is a quality quarterback

468
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Speaker 3: in the NFL, but you have to hit everything around

469
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Speaker 3: him because he is not somebody like like a Patrick

470
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Speaker 3: Mahomes or anybody like that who's gonna raise everybody else.

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Speaker 3: The situation around him has to be very good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I know this is not Cowboys centric, but I

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Speaker 2: do wonder do you think that the Dak contract and

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Speaker 2: the fallout and how bad the Cowboys have been, do

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Speaker 2: you think that will be a trickle down when it

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Speaker 2: comes to brock Perties deal this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. And I think the biggest lesson

478
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Speaker 3: that the forty nine ers can take from Dak's contract

479
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Speaker 3: is just to get it done early, because because the

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Speaker 3: more time you wait for franchise quarterbacks, in particular, you're

481
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: the team is never going to win. It's the same

482
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Speaker 3: thing what everyone says about Vegas in terms of gambling.

483
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Speaker 3: The house always wins. The quarterback is always going to win.

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Speaker 3: If you have a quarterback that is a top ten

485
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Speaker 3: caliber quarterback on any given Sunday, not saying ever consistently,

486
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Speaker 3: but just on any given Sunday can be a top

487
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Speaker 3: ten guy, that quarterback is always going to have a

488
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Speaker 3: market and teams will be willing to pay. So you're

489
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Speaker 3: always going to be bidding against someone else. And the

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Speaker 3: biggest mistake the Cowboys made was not giving Dak the contract.

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Speaker 3: It was waiting. As long as they did, they could

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Speaker 3: have had twenty two million dollars extra in cap space.

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Speaker 3: If they give that same contract in March that they

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Speaker 3: gave in September, there's a lot you could have done

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Speaker 3: with that, But it was inevitable that Dak was going

496
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Speaker 3: to get that deal. And you know, Dak's agent, Todd Franz,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen in my ten ish years covering the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys in different you know, in different capacities. I've never

499
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Speaker 3: seen an agent take Jerry Jones to the wash the

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Speaker 3: way that Todd Franz has. Not only does he get

501
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Speaker 3: the deal that he wants, there's a no trade clause,

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Speaker 3: there's no franchise tag clause like Dak has everything. And

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Speaker 3: so to your point, to me, what the forty nine ers,

504
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Speaker 3: you know, they have to make a decision. Are you

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Speaker 3: gonna pray pay Rock Purty or not. If the answer

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Speaker 3: is that you're gonna pay him, just pay him as

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Speaker 3: soon as you can, because the longer you wait, the

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Speaker 3: worse it's gonna get for the team.

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Speaker 2: And I asked this because I asked the same thing

510
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Speaker 2: when Dak was up. Let's say the Cowboys and they

511
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Speaker 2: didn't have a plan for secession, so it's moot at

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Speaker 2: this point. But let's say they said, Dak, we're not

513
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Speaker 2: gonna pay you. You can hit the market. Thank you

514
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Speaker 2: for your service. I know people were out there saying, oh,

515
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Speaker 2: come on, Raiders would have given him fifty five. I'm

516
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Speaker 2: I almost him certain nobody was given him fifty five.

517
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Speaker 2: And I bring this up because I don't think and

518
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers won't do it. But I think

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Speaker 2: if the forty nine er said, hey, Rock, we'll draw

520
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Speaker 2: the line at forty five million year, sorry Bud, and

521
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Speaker 2: he said, you know what, I'm gonna leave it and

522
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go explore the market, you just step back

523
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Speaker 2: and be honest with yourself. Is anybody paying brock Purty

524
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Speaker 2: forty five million dollars a year? Given what we just

525
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Speaker 2: saw the Daniel Jones experience. I think he's better than

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. But you know, Kirk Cousins got about forty five.

527
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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold got less, Baker Mayfield got like twenty nine ish.

528
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Speaker 2: But if brock perty said no, do you think anybody

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Speaker 2: in the league, Carolina, whoever else, would give brock Pretty

530
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Speaker 2: forty five million a year?

531
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Speaker 3: I I think I think it only takes one.

532
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Speaker 2: Oh no, that's but that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Who's the one.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, maybe the Raiders like they

535
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Speaker 3: could be a team. You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers were

536
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: a big one with the with the Dak Prescott conversation,

537
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Speaker 3: to be honest, because of the way Tomlin has talked

538
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Speaker 3: about Dak and everything like that. But but yeah, I mean,

539
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: you know, it's a fair point. I think, you know,

540
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Speaker 3: that's a gamble that a team has to decide if

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Speaker 3: they're gonna take or not. For me with the forty

542
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Speaker 3: nine ers, what is even more intriguing with that, even

543
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Speaker 3: more so than the Dak Prescott conversation, is there is

544
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Speaker 3: a very clear consensus around the league and whether you're

545
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: a fan, media, coaches, whatever, about the prowess of Kyle Shanahan.

546
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: Everyone wants the Kyle Shanahan coach, the Kyle Shanahan tree.

547
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Speaker 3: How much of that success of Purdy are you attributing

548
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Speaker 3: to Kyle Shanahan? And if you are, then you feel

549
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: like you can plug in another quarterback and get similar results.

550
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Speaker 3: But how long do you have a dynamic running back

551
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Speaker 3: like Christian McCaffrey. How long do you have some of

552
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Speaker 3: these other guys around him, like Trent Williams, like George Kittle,

553
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: even Deebo Samuel, I mean, you know, how long do

554
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: you have that? So I think there's a lot of

555
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: questions for the forty nine ers, but I think the

556
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Speaker 3: main one would be do you feel like you can

557
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Speaker 3: plug and play? Because Jimmy Garoppolo got you to a

558
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: Super Bowl too? And you know you drafted Trey Lance

559
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: and you hit on that. Sorry you missed on that

560
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: really bad. It's hard finding a quarterback. And I feel like,

561
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Speaker 3: if there's one team again, if you asked this same

562
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: question a few years ago, who's giving Daniel Jones forty million?

563
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: You probably aren't getting a whole lot of answers about that.

564
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 3: And go look at what's happening in Jacksonville right now

565
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Speaker 3: with Trevor Lawrence. If you take away all the hype,

566
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Speaker 3: and I was part of it, I think there was

567
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: there's three generational quarterbacks in the last three decades, Peyton

568
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Speaker 3: Manning in ninety eight, Andrew Luck in twenty twelve, and

569
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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. And when he came out in terms of

570
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: just next level and it hasn't worked out, but he

571
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: still got the contract because they're just so terrified of

572
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Speaker 3: what could be on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting. And the whole Shanahan thing you mentioned

574
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Speaker 2: Garoppolo I forgot this, Like, where where's Jimmy Garoppolo today?

575
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Speaker 2: It's like three years later and he's like a backup

576
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: or is even the league? I don't Yeah, he's a

577
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: backup with with the Rams. Yeah, so it's like with Shanahan,

578
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: you can go to a super Bowl. Now you're not

579
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: with Shanahan, bench by the Raiders and uh oh yeah

580
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: you're a backup. So again, I like Purty a lot.

581
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Speaker 2: I've been a big champion of this, but a lot

582
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: of it has to do with he's on a one

583
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: million dollar contract, eight hundred thousand whatever it is. Anyways,

584
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Speaker 2: all right, sad yusef awesome stuff. I'm sorry you have

585
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: to deal with the Cowboys the rest of the season

586
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: because all their good games are gonna get flexed out

587
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: of primetime.

588
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: Right.

589
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: There's no way you can put Cooper Rush on Sunday

590
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Night Football?

591
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: Can you? No? I don't think so. But but you know,

592
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: like I'll tell you, like covering the team, it is

593
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: like I feel bad for the fans, I genuinely do.

594
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: But there's never a boring moment as in terms of

595
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: being a beat writer covering the Cowboys. You know, it's

596
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: kind of like a lot of teams when they go

597
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: down this road and they're three and six. They're not

598
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: even good enough to have a top five pick, but

599
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: they're bad enough to where they're not gonna make a playoffs.

600
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: It's bad. But with the Cowboys, there's always something going on,

601
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: there's always something to write about, there's always something to

602
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: talk about, and you know I can't complain about that.

603
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, rest up, you got a coaching search. You'll

604
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: be dealing with it in January, all right, So great stuff, man,

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on all your success.

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Speaker 3: Awesome thanks Jason,