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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 1: We are a sibling. Railvalry.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.

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Speaker 1: That's good. I love Ollie. I'm this is someone that

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Speaker 1: you know pretty well.

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Speaker 4: You've worked with her, Yeah, I worked with her on

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Speaker 4: a show called Nashville. There's a good chance she was

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Speaker 4: extremely attracted to me during this time. But she is

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Speaker 4: the reason I even did this show because I was

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Speaker 4: getting paid zero dollars. It was right when Rio is born.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell her this wh when she comes on. I

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Speaker 4: was so afraid to leave, went to Nashville crying my

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Speaker 4: eyes out, and turned out to be a great fun

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Speaker 4: experience with my girl, Connie Britton.

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Speaker 5: I think she is one of the greatest human beings

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Speaker 5: ever in our industry. She so loved I ran into

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Speaker 5: her at the airport in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: She's probably there right now. I have a feeling in Toronto, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because she just.

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Speaker 5: Yeah at the Toronto Film Festival. We're literally literally went

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Speaker 5: through customs together.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, and we what is she doing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We can talk to her about it,

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Speaker 1: but should we bring.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring her and I want to have a few questions.

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Speaker 1: Really do you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a few questions, A few questions for Connie.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, what is going on?

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Speaker 6: And freaks?

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi guys.

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Speaker 1: Hi, are you still in Canada?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 6: Are you?

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Speaker 1: No? So you're back.

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Speaker 6: I'm back. I'm back. I was there very briefly, very great.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 5: I was just telling Oliver that we ran into each

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Speaker 5: other in the customs.

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Speaker 6: I had to have a little bit of a conversation

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Speaker 6: with myself though, because I ran into you and you

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Speaker 6: looked so like we've just been on that long flight,

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Speaker 6: and you looked so put together and fabulous, and I

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Speaker 6: was literally like in my pjs with like terrible hair

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Speaker 6: and no makeup, and I was like, I gotta I

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Speaker 6: gotta do better.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you looked beautiful. You always looked beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Did you talk about me or no?

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Speaker 1: I don't think we did.

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Speaker 5: We might have we She might have said, ow's all

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Speaker 5: are great?

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Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that was the first

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Speaker 6: thing I said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, trying to get my work permit.

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Speaker 2: It should be it should be top of mine.

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Speaker 1: You have to get a work permit. You know, God, what.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing in Toronto?

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Speaker 6: I'm not doing it anymore. I did this great show.

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Speaker 6: I just did a tiny little guest thing, this great

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Speaker 6: show called Overcompensating. Have you guys heard of I hadn't,

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Speaker 6: but now I know who he is and I will

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Speaker 6: I'm forever changed. Have you heard of Benny Drama? Benny

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Speaker 6: Drama from the internets?

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: He is this amazing young comedian and has all the

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Speaker 6: you know kind of His whole story is about how

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Speaker 6: he comes from Idaho and he like put on, like

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Speaker 6: he was. He pretended to everybody that he was straight

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Speaker 6: for a really long time, and so this show is

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Speaker 6: about him doing that and then finally coming out in college.

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Speaker 6: And it's so funny and so good. I think this

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Speaker 6: show is going to be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Redded he is Shredded Shredded.

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Speaker 1: He's very handsome.

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Speaker 6: He's so handsome, he's so talented and funny. Are you

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Speaker 6: watching our video?

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Speaker 1: We just watched it.

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Speaker 2: Watching a video.

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Speaker 1: There's not not even sound on it.

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Speaker 2: You can laugh funny.

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Speaker 6: It was Charlie XCX because she was in the show.

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Speaker 6: She's in the show oh fine. So we were like

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Speaker 6: and I, you know, he was just doing that dance

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Speaker 6: and of course I had no idea what I was doing.

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Speaker 6: What difference does it make?

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Speaker 2: How fun her? How are you good, babe? I deliver cleanse.

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Speaker 4: I'm two weeks into intermittent fasting. I've lost eight pounds.

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Speaker 4: I feel good. I'm sexy. I'm sexier you know than

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 6: You know that's objective.

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Speaker 2: No, it's objective. Yes, it's subjective, one of the objectives.

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Speaker 2: It's it's objective. I just did.

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Speaker 1: Ojective objective.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I'm good. I need a job, but I'm good.

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Speaker 6: I want us to do. What are we going to do?

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Speaker 6: We have to do something?

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Speaker 4: You're well, I know, I just there's so much untapped

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Speaker 4: talent that is just flowing through this And.

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Speaker 6: Even when I worked with you, there's so much untapped No,

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Speaker 6: I know, even.

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Speaker 1: In every scene we've done.

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Speaker 6: Do you I know it's in there somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Do you do you remember when we were Do you

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Speaker 4: remember when we were doing a scene and I farted?

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Speaker 6: Oh? I probably, I actually don't remember that.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was it was one of the great moments in

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Speaker 4: my career. It was like something all serious where I'm

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Speaker 4: the asshole, you know, record guy, And I'm at like

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Speaker 4: Edge Hill Records or some shit, and I'm not supposed

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Speaker 4: to be there, and Connie's giving this whole speech of

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Speaker 4: like how I shouldn't be there and to get out

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Speaker 4: or whatever she's saying, and it's all serious, and I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to deliver a line, and I just walk off.

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Speaker 6: I remember the first my first time meeting you. You

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Speaker 6: had just gotten to set and you were in tears

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Speaker 6: because you just left your newborn baby. Yes who was

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Speaker 6: which one?

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Speaker 2: Which was Rio?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I remember you're crying. Oh she was

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Speaker 4: ten days old. And I had to leave and I

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Speaker 4: was getting paid nothing for the first season. It was

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Speaker 4: just sort of show guest spot stuff. I just but honestly,

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Speaker 4: because you were in Nashville's like I need to mean,

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Speaker 4: it's Connie Britton. I have to go do this even

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Speaker 4: though I'm not getting paid. And I was devastated. I

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Speaker 1: I'm a major. I remember that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going. Yeah, I said, I don't care if

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Speaker 4: not I can't do this. And Aaron, my wife, was like,

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Speaker 2: It all work out.

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Speaker 1: But I was just devastated.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would have been the exact the whole,

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Speaker 6: like parenting and working things so hard. Yeah, it's so difficult.

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Speaker 4: It's it's also like it's just my god, how's your baby,

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Speaker 4: by the way, crazy thirteen.

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Speaker 6: Thirteen like at that time, I mean that's how long

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Speaker 2: It's just crazy.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like you're so lucky if you're able

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Speaker 5: to take your kids with.

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Speaker 1: You and you're working.

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Speaker 5: But the thing for our crazy life is like the

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Speaker 5: hours are just insane.

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Speaker 1: It's like you just don't see your kids, you know.

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Speaker 6: And nothing shoots in Lani anymore.

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Speaker 5: I know I'm about to leave my girl for the

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Speaker 5: first time for two months, and I mean I won't

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Speaker 5: leave her for that whole time, but but it's like

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Speaker 5: I'm like having major separation anxiety, you know, it's like

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just know I have to say no

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Speaker 6: to things because I can't. I just I did this

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Speaker 6: thing in New York for six months in the winter

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Speaker 6: where I was basically commuting to New York, and it

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Speaker 6: just about killed me because also I can't stand being

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Speaker 6: especially now like he's getting into that, like you know,

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Speaker 6: every week for like trex months and it's like it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess to be wrecked. I guess what's happening?

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Speaker 6: Where are you going to be shooting?

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Speaker 1: It's so me, I'll be and I'll be around New York.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, look, they get a little bit

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Speaker 5: older and you realize, like you do, you kind of

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Speaker 5: you know. So this is my first time really leaving

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Speaker 5: her for a longer period of time. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: I will only go like ten days because I'm crazy

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Think you're Also, it hurts more for yourself than it

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Speaker 1: I know they're so happy, you know.

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Speaker 2: Are more devastated than they are. That's I mean.

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Speaker 6: Listen, you know I'm a single mom. So like when

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Speaker 6: I'm gone, he's with a nanny.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, I'm available.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

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Speaker 5: He's the best, by the way, when I was a

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Speaker 6: God, for all he wants is siblings. So he just

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Speaker 6: I'm going to just drop him at your house with

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Speaker 1: Honorary Hudson when you're out of town.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, there will be a great father.

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Speaker 6: You are a great father, and you will be a

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Speaker 6: great father to Yobi.

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Speaker 1: Of childhood Connie Britain, what was your childhood like? Where

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Speaker 1: were you born?

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Speaker 6: I was born in Boston, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: And did you live Were you born and raised there?

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Speaker 6: No? I only lived there. My dad was in both

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Speaker 6: my parents weren't school there, you know, they got they

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Speaker 6: like had babies so young, and so we were born there.

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Speaker 6: But then my dad got out of school and we

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Speaker 6: moved to Maryland. So when I was like one, we

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Speaker 6: moved to Rockville, Maryland. Is that near DC or yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Our mom's from Maryland.

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Speaker 5: Oh really, where she's from Tacoma Park, Silver Spring.

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Speaker 6: Right, that's really that's near where I was. That's near

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Speaker 6: where we were. Yeah, but we only lived there till

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Speaker 6: we were seven, and then we moved to Virginia, Lynchburg, Virginia,

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Speaker 6: and that's where I always think, like, that's where I

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Speaker 6: because I loved it. My mom. I remember my mom

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Speaker 6: being like she was from Connecticut and she thought that

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Speaker 6: like the sticks in Lynchburg, Virginia, which you know, it

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Speaker 6: was certainly small town Virginia, but like it was a

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Speaker 2: Yes, which was you know Jack was Jack Lemon in that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, public enemy number one.

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Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, we didn't have that. Like we've always

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Speaker 6: It was like we were like siblings, like just.

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Speaker 1: You guys were like I don't want to read your mind.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like I don't even under you over there? Yeah

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well how the fraternal though fraternal is just two.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they I mean, because that's like that's part of

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Speaker 5: I had a friend who had identical twins and she's

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Speaker 1: No, we're not. And it was like a moment of

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Speaker 6: No? My mother? My mother? What did she used to say?

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Speaker 6: Every night we'd have dinner. I'd traveled a lot for work.

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Speaker 6: Of pot Okay, no, my mother, they were not the

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Speaker 6: My favorite chicken growing up was just cream and mushroom.

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Speaker 5: There's never a day without cream and mushroom, campbell soup.

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Speaker 4: Well, she's very interesting cooks. I mean, she's an incredible cook.

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Speaker 4: And then and then she'll finish it off with mistir

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Speaker 1: And then you're like, we've never really unpacked.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about it, because I think it's really funny that.

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Speaker 1: She really is the queen of the one pot.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's so practical.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love that cook darting fingers. I

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 4: eating for sure.

450
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Speaker 6: Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's like it's like this

451
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 6: the spice of life, as it were.

452
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Speaker 2: Do you cook? Are you cooking?

453
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Speaker 6: No? Not at all, literally, not at all.

454
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Speaker 2: So you just order food.

455
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Speaker 6: I order food every night.

456
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Speaker 2: You do every single.

457
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Speaker 6: I'm like, what do you want tonight? Little doms or sugarfish?

458
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: Right?

459
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 6: We have one at least at least once a week,

460
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 6: we have both of those things. And then like I run,

461
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 6: and then I'm like, boy, were we going need tonight

462
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Speaker 6: because we already eat sugarfish and we alread eat little doms?

463
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 6: So I don't know, I can make breakfast. Yeah, I'm

464
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 6: really good at breakfast. But you guys are west Yeah,

465
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 6: we're west. Yeah, we're east.

466
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: West side, west side and the east side in Los

467
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 5: Angeles is like, you might as well be living in

468
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: New York City like I might. Like, I actually see

469
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 5: my friends in New York more than I see my

470
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: friends in East of the four or five, Oliver.

471
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Speaker 6: Which was not the case when we were working together,

472
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Speaker 6: And now have a wonderful man in my life who

473
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Speaker 6: lives in Santa Monica. Oh oh no, that's that's a

474
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Speaker 6: real thing. That's really new. No, five years are.

475
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 5: We I'm like, did you get a five years is

476
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 5: not new?

477
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: No, because when we were working together, you're kind.

478
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: Of years for me is usually when it's over.

479
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 6: I know, man, holding on, we're holding on.

480
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Speaker 1: That's good.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. That's so glad. I didn't know that.

482
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Speaker 2: That's so great.

483
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 6: I know it's great.

484
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: It's not Will Chase, is it?

485
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: Oh no?

486
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 6: I think I'm the only one who didn't say where.

487
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: Is Will in New York?

488
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: I love Will?

489
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: You've seen Will lately?

490
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 5: We had a trimming party. We had such a fun

491
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: number that one year we christ Christmas.

492
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: Tree Ingrid, you know, doing his thing.

493
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 6: Is he still with Ingrid.

494
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so great.

495
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know he's great.

496
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: He's such a good he's such a good guy.

497
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to have a little reunion.

498
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: Do you keep in touching?

499
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: Union?

500
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: Actually text? I pretty good.

501
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I loved that show. I think it's the only show

502
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: I watched of Oliver's really.

503
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, like like consistently, Yeah no, no, I watched them,

504
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 5: but I don't watch them.

505
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: Like no, I get it, I get it. Everything I

506
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: do is not great.

507
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: The life of any actor.

508
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: No, but we honestly don't watch each No, I mean

509
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 4: I barely watch anything.

510
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: But I was like hooked.

511
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, really that I'm so always surprised by, Like,

512
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 6: people really loved that show. I did. I think I was.

513
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 6: I was traumatized because I was a new mother. Yeah,

514
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 6: it was so that show was so much work.

515
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: Well especially because you were also producing it.

516
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, singing and then likes and crazy.

517
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then.

518
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: You know network soaphy drama that right, right.

519
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be one thing and

520
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 6: that's way soapier than I thought I was going to be.

521
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, well I mean those scripts were like seventy pages.

522
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it was crazy. It was so I

523
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: would do a scene and I'd be like, oh, that

524
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: was that. That was pretty good, that felt good, moving on,

525
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: blah blah. And then I'd watch it and it was

526
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: chopped within an inch of its life, where all of

527
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 4: a sudden you're like, oh, I'm a horrible it made

528
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: mean do a horrible actor.

529
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: Look, I know that, you're right.

530
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 6: I forgot about that. That's what was so frustrating, because

531
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 6: you couldn't really do a.

532
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: Performance no, because it was there was so much material.

533
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: I had just had to bring it down so much.

534
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's one of the things that it's

535
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: sort of the shows. I mean, granted, you know, I

536
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 5: loved Nashville, and it provided for me, even as as

537
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: someone who loved it, like it provided everything I wanted

538
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: from that, but as as from from like a creative

539
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 5: point of view, when you're trying to achieve something different,

540
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: it becomes so hard, you know, and and then it's

541
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: hard to decipher if it's good or not because you're like, well,

542
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: wait a minute, I was looking to do this. You're

543
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 5: trying to make this happen. Now I can't tell if

544
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 5: this is good. But it was good, you know what

545
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: I mean, Like it.

546
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Was exactly that.

547
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 5: Like it it gave you everything you wanted from it

548
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: wasn't Friday Night Lights.

549
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: Well that was the problem. I had just come from

550
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: Friday Night Lights, which was such a such a creative experience,

551
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 6: you know, and I thought, just I, you know, I

552
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 6: loved that. I loved that show and I loved doing it.

553
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 6: And so then I came into this and it was

554
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 6: all of those things that you were saying, Oliver, like

555
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: it was much more kind of pieced together, and there

556
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 6: were all these elements and it felt very network, you know,

557
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 6: and I kind of had thought it was going to

558
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 6: be more documentary style and like, so yeah, so I

559
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 6: was kind of I felt like I was always sort

560
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 6: of trying to fight those.

561
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: Fight for that. Yeah.

562
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: I guess when there's some it's always becomes like the

563
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 5: creatives and then the network exacts or the streamers or

564
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 5: whatever you're working with. There's always sometimes like an ad Odds,

565
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 5: when it comes to things that are a little bit

566
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: more what they consider network, it's like, you can make

567
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: this better, you know, right, Like, it doesn't have to

568
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 5: look like this for it to be this, to be

569
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 5: what you think it's supposed to be.

570
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: And so they kind of undermine the creatives, which is which.

571
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: To me kind of ruins the genre of those types

572
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 5: of things, Like I feel that way in rom coms

573
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: all the time, they dumbed down like a rom com

574
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: when what you realize is that every great one was

575
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 5: created like like like.

576
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: A great film.

577
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: It wasn't like, oh, we're going to make a rom

578
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 5: com and we're going to spend very little money and

579
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 5: we're going to cut out all the things that make

580
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 5: it good, so all your production value is gone because

581
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: it's okay, it's going to make certain people happy and

582
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: that's good enough exactly like that.

583
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: You know who was in my household growing up on

584
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 6: a loop? Your mother? Yes, my favorite, like literally every

585
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 6: Goldie Han Chevy Chase movie like I that was my

586
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 6: biggest Those were my biggest inspirations of my life. And

587
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 6: though and we don't make movies like that anymore, like

588
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: a real romance, like amazing, hilarious.

589
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 5: I mean, look, you had Neil Simon writing, Yeah, you

590
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 5: had you had some of the great directors and writer.

591
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: I was just talking about last night seems like old times.

592
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I was talking about seems like old time.

593
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: Play. Yeah, foul play.

594
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: I was just talking about this.

595
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was with Ken Jong John Hamm.

596
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: I had a weird dinner last night.

597
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Weird.

598
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we were talking to you.

599
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: That's fun.

600
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: It was fun. I was just start talking about seems like

601
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: old times. And it was Withroden and v and I was.

602
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: Talking about this movie that I'm producing with a friend

603
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 5: of mine and we're trying to I'm going to meet

604
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 5: this with this comedian who he was saying reminds him

605
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: of Chevy Chase.

606
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: And we started talking about it seems like all Times

607
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: and foul play because those movies were written to be

608
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: great movies, right that they weren't written to be comedy. Yeah.

609
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 6: Now now when people talk about, first of all, it

610
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 6: seems like people are afraid to make romantic comedies.

611
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

612
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: Well, there's been a resurgence, you know, with Glenn's movie

613
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: you know, right, it's called Anyone but You or you

614
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: know and and and there's there's been a bit of

615
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: a resurgence, but not let's say that they're good and

616
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 4: really but they're it's been semi successful, so there could be.

617
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: And so you you forget like the great you know,

618
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: I I say, I My big thing is like you

619
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 5: have to invest in the talent for those things to

620
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 5: be the classics you or they're just going to come

621
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 5: and go. And I I get, But our industry, I mean,

622
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 5: this is obviously turning into it now.

623
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: We're this is a movie podcast, business podcast.

624
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 6: We're going to bring it back to my siblings.

625
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: But you know, the industry is changing so drastically.

626
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: I feel sometimes like it was like music, you know,

627
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 5: fifteen years ago. The last eight years of our industry

628
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 5: have been like very drastic, and there's so much fear

629
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 5: based decisions being made right now.

630
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: Internally, I believe.

631
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 6: I agree with you. I think it's everything. It's just

632
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: there's no everything's imploding.

633
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, I always believe that it's the

634
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 5: times when things are imploding where all of the people

635
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 5: who are used to making things for a lot of

636
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: money and and industry starts to change, is when.

637
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: Great art starts to happen.

638
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: So what I'm excited about is for like my son's

639
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 5: generation and hopefully all of us veterans to get on

640
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 5: board with these young kids who want to tell stories

641
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 5: for nothing, and hopefully those will end up in the

642
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 5: theater and have some opportunity to be seen because.

643
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: They're going to be doing things that you know, no

644
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: one's doing.

645
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: There another outlet for those things to be seen.

646
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: Because it's still a business. Commerce matters.

647
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: They're not going to be in theaters if it's not

648
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 4: going to make money.

649
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean it goes back to all of that.

650
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: There needs to be a a sort of a platform

651
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: to where these art pieces can be recognized and become

652
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: more mainstream.

653
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

654
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: I felt like at Toronto this year there were so

655
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: many cool movies, Like there was a lot. It felt

656
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: like how it used to feel.

657
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: You know, we had COVID and then there was the strike,

658
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 5: but now it felt like there's all these movies that

659
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: are happening in Toronto when I was there at the

660
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: film festival, and same from my friends talking about Venice.

661
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: It's a very robust year for good art.

662
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 6: Yea.

663
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 5: The question is we'll find out where do they go

664
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 5: and who sees them and do they have a life?

665
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, but are they going to be in the theater?

666
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: Are they what happens.

667
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 5: Now or are they going to get bought by a streamer?

668
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: Like how where do these movies where? You know, where

669
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: can they sit?

670
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: And you know what you need?

671
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: Like you need like a Jeff Bezos to say, here's

672
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars and we are going No, We're

673
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 4: going to finance art small movies, small television shows you

674
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 4: know that are personal pieces where the outcome is more.

675
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: About the artistry and not the commerce. So I don't

676
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: care if it makes money. This is a grand right.

677
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 6: But I will say this show that I was doing

678
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 6: in Toronto over compensating. It's for Amazon. Yeah, and it's

679
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 6: a real it's it is I think, you know. I

680
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 6: mean again, I just came in and did like a

681
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 6: couple episodes, But I think it. I think it's going

682
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 6: to have real artistry to it, and I think it's

683
00:36:54,200 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 6: going to tell a story that feels really relevant and

684
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 6: it's really personal to this you know.

685
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean honestly, that's where we're at right now.

686
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: TV is where the artistry now is coming from. Because

687
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: some of these little shows, people take chances on them

688
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: and bang, you know what I mean, they get there

689
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: really really amazing and very really good, and they catch

690
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 4: on and it becomes a word of mouth type of thing.

691
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 6: If you're if you're a great writer, if you can

692
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 6: do great writing and have a very clear vision, that

693
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 6: is half of it.

694
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's and then and then and then the

695
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: opportunity to sort of or for the network streamer to

696
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: take their hands off and say, hey, you drive, because

697
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: you know what the fuck you're doing. I was actually

698
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: gonna ask you that did NBC because it was Pete Berg,

699
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: just say hey, you know what fucking go You're Pete Berg.

700
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: You're obviously great at what you do. You did Friday

701
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 4: Night Lights prior, like, just do do what you do

702
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: because it was so different for a TV show.

703
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: I mean, it was sort of.

704
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 6: It was NBC. But what's interesting though they did say

705
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 6: that and and then Pete basically it was it was

706
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 6: really the trademark of the way we shot the show

707
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 6: because he was like, nobody pushes us around, Nobody put

708
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 6: you know, he like he would. He came when we

709
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: went to series, he came to Austin and he's like,

710
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 6: you're doing You guys are in charge. You guys have

711
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 6: to make sure we do this the way we do this.

712
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Because we would have visiting

713
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 6: directors and you know, but there was a very specific

714
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 6: style to that show that we all cherished, and it

715
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 6: gave everybody a sense of ownership for the show. But

716
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 6: you know, actually because in the very beginning, NBC really

717
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 6: like promoted it as like, you know, a show about

718
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 6: football with like beautiful young kids kind of thing, and

719
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 6: then that wasn't really landing. The truth is NBC got

720
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 6: rid of the show by the second season and it

721
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 6: was bought by direct TV. Nobody remembers that we were

722
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 6: going to be done about that, and the fans it

723
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 6: was like one of those things where the fans like

724
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 6: they sent in light bulbs to NBC, like save the show,

725
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 6: Save the show, and so direct TV bought the show, right, Yeah. Wow,

726
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 6: So we did one season of twenty two. The next

727
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 6: season we only did eighteen because it was the writer strike,

728
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 6: and then after that it was direct TV and so

729
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 6: we did I think thirteen every week for the rest

730
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Speaker 6: of the time.

731
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: Wow, I forgot that.

732
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

733
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Speaker 4: Did you were you like a young growing up? Is

734
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: this what you wanted to do? Were you like a

735
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: little performer? All the time?

736
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 6: I did? It was my dream, like as my you know,

737
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 6: I used to talk to my best friend on the phone. Well,

738
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 6: I was really lucky because I went to a public

739
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 6: high school, you know, little public high school in Lynchburg, Virginia,

740
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Speaker 6: and it had an amazing drama department. We had an

741
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: incredible drama teacher. And that was that was it for me.

742
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: I mean that was my whole high school. And it

743
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 6: was cool, like even the football players, like all the

744
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 6: cool boys liked did plays and stuff. So it wasn't

745
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: like we were drama nerds. We were like cool drama nerds.

746
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 6: And so I would always dream. I was like, well,

747
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 6: if I could do anything, we would talk about what

748
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 6: would we do. And I was like, well, I'd be

749
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 6: I'd be an actress, you know, if I could do anything.

750
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 6: And my best friend was like, I'd be a ski

751
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 6: bum like that. It was like, but those were comparable,

752
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 6: Like the reality of me being an actress was probably

753
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 6: less likely than being able to be a ski bum.

754
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 6: And so, and I went to college. You know my parents,

755
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 6: you know, nuclear physicists, Like we're all about education. I

756
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 6: went to college, Liberal Arts College.

757
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: Where'd you go to school?

758
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: Dartmouth in New Hampshire. Fancy fancy, so fancy.

759
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: US Hudson's know nothing about.

760
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: We don't go to college.

761
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: US US ranch folks.

762
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 6: Ranch folks. I mean, guys, we have such we have

763
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 6: such different upbringings, we have such different experiences. Isn't it freaky?

764
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 6: Are you finding that with your podcast talking to people? Yeah,

765
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 6: it's staying talking about siblings because you must get so

766
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 6: much information about how people grow up.

767
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: And yeah, the most interesting thing is the universal sort

768
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: of feeling is that you siblings can be raised the

769
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 4: exact same way, but the perception of how they were

770
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: raised is completely different. One thinks dad was incredible, and

771
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: the other one, who's two and a half years younger,

772
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: thinks Dad was an asshole, you know, even though they

773
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: were both raised the same way.

774
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: But we don't have that for us. Yeah, no, no, no, no, Which.

775
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Is I find that interesting when that's happening.

776
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but kind of. I mean, you know, I'm Mom's favorite.

777
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Are we like doing we are? We like doing a

778
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: research thing? Like should we write a book about siblings?

779
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we are.

780
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's well, it's such a fascinating relationship.

781
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: I just skip over that at this point.

782
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 6: My sister and I have such like, really really different

783
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 6: points of view about life, and we are such dramatically

784
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 6: different people raised by the same two people in the

785
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 6: same house, given the same opportunities. It's it is fascinating,

786
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 6: you know, And so it kind of I don't know,

787
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 6: you know, it's it is sort of like when you

788
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 6: now that I'm a parent, thinking, oh god, I'm screwing

789
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna like totally screw him up or whatever, and

790
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 6: you realize, like there's not there's not a lot of

791
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 6: right answers when you're trying to be a parent. It's

792
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 6: just you just got to kind of show up.

793
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: You just it's like I was listening to Love, just love. Yeah,

794
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: just be just be present.

795
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's but just be present and be and be loving.

796
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: It just is what it is.

797
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 5: Your life experience is exactly what it is in that moment,

798
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: and you.

799
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Just have to like, and you're for sure screwing him up.

800
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 4: I mean we all do, oh exactly just what degree,

801
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: but we're all screwing him up somehow one way.

802
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 5: My kids are perfect, but you're definitely screwing yours up.

803
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 5: But I feel like, I honestly feel like our childhood

804
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: there was so much it was it was it actually

805
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: really was quite an artistic unit we had because it

806
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 5: was unorthodox, like they weren't crazy like everyone.

807
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: So many people we talked to.

808
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: It's a lot about education, like your parents, like that

809
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: was really important.

810
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: The structure of that and all those things. We didn't

811
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: have any of that, Like no.

812
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: I can't remembered.

813
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: Right or being asked if we even had home.

814
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 6: No.

815
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like our life experience growing up was

816
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 7: really about connecting with each other, being kind, showing up

817
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 7: for each other and laughter and.

818
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 6: Right and guys, you know what, I just realized. All

819
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 6: three of us were raised by your mother. I'm telling

820
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 6: you because she was such an inspiration in my house too,

821
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 6: Like I think she because my parents were much more

822
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 6: sort of conservative, and I think like I think I

823
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 6: was so drawn to her because of all those things

824
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: you just described, the laughter and this like kind of

825
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 6: like freedom to be joyful and put that out into

826
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 6: the world, you know.

827
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 5: And I'm like filled with the like the opportunity to

828
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 5: make giant mistakes. Like we didn't grow up thinking, I mean,

829
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: you know, we didn't grow up thinking like if we

830
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 5: don't get into college, we will be failures, Like we

831
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 5: won't what will we do? Like the idea of making

832
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: mistakes was like part of your human existing you know, experience.

833
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: And so it you know. But then with that, you know,

834
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: you'd go to.

835
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 5: A kid's house that had like parents that had nine

836
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 5: to five jobs and like really nicely structured and like

837
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: they sat down and ate every night, and you'd be like,

838
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 5: this is.

839
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: This is weird, this is weird, this is cool.

840
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I like this.

841
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 6: Did you feel like you were missing something by not

842
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 6: having that?

843
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 5: Not?

844
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: No, not really, not in the moment.

845
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, not in the moment.

846
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 4: I mean even now, it's hard to look back and say, oh,

847
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: we missed out on that.

848
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't feel that we had such a loud,

849
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 5: boisterous Yeah.

850
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: It was kind of all over the place.

851
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, different places different Well, is there anything that you

852
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 6: guys do differently now with your like are consciously like, oh,

853
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: I'm going to do this this way.

854
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 4: I think Kate, it is probably more than I do. Yeah,

855
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: it's way more structured. Her discipline matters to her more

856
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: than it does to me. You know, she's iron, fisty.

857
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: Fire wax.

858
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 6: That does not tell my kids.

859
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: When my kids, when they were a little bit younger, like,

860
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 4: we don't want to go to anti kids anymore.

861
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: I was like, why, They're like, because because she makes

862
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: us take our shoes off the door.

863
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: But yes, no, I I there are certain things I

864
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: think that I overcompensate with education a little bit. Because

865
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: we weren't you know, checked in on or there was

866
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 4: no sort of discipline with it. Now I make sure

867
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 4: the kids are doing their homework, you know, I want

868
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 4: them to have some work ethic.

869
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oliver, and I just found out, Like we're talking

870
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: on the phone the other day and I was like,

871
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: I am so ADHD. I'm like a walking ADHD TikTok.

872
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 5: Like any the other day I was walking around my house.

873
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 5: I was supposed to leave like fifteen minutes before. I

874
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 5: had everything in my hands and before you know it,

875
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 5: I have nothing. I don't know where anything is. I

876
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 5: can't find my keys I just had them. I don't

877
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: know where my phone is.

878
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: No, I'm walking in circles.

879
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, oh, I'm one of those ADHD tiktoks

880
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 5: because I am deaf.

881
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: I am for sure.

882
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 4: And right before we talked, I literally googled adult ADHD,

883
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: like how to diagnose because really I've had I ever

884
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: never thought about it because I didn't really care. But

885
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: now I'm realizing, Man, do I have fucking adh I

886
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 4: think I've got some.

887
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: Weird shit, you know? And and do I need a pill?

888
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: Or do I just roll you?

889
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: But you absolutely do you do I mean.

890
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 4: Since I've been on this honestly, I've been on this

891
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 4: fucking cleanse, and I've never felt I've never had more energy,

892
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: I've never felt more clear, And I will say that

893
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: my focus has improved tremendously.

894
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: But my point is is that in.

895
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 5: Happen with our family, Like we didn't think like that,

896
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 5: you know, the eighties, like you're not, that's not We

897
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 5: didn't structure for chaotic minds. We just lived in this

898
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: sort of fun, chaotic world and then when it was

899
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: time to really do your homework at last minute, you

900
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: just had to do it for me.

901
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: With my son, I knew very early on that.

902
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 5: He had something similar to what my challenges were and

903
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 5: was able to like actually help him structure his brain

904
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 5: so that now that he's in college, he has tools.

905
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 6: Really, how did you do that? How did you do that?

906
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: Well?

907
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: I got I got him assessed because I could see

908
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 5: that there was some stuff going on with uh, just

909
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 5: learning challenges and he'd be fine with me talking about this,

910
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 5: but but he but then we've got him assessed, and

911
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: then we found out like we could see what his

912
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 5: spectrum was of his executive function and then his you know,

913
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: conceptual abilities how like he's brilliant. He would he was

914
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 5: testing in the above nineties. Sometimes one of them was

915
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 5: in like the hundred and something percentiles. Crazy in his

916
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: in his ability.

917
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: To go over one hundred.

918
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 5: No, he was in grade seventeen of of his of so.

919
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: He where is he car?

920
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: So you can test one hundred and eighteen percentiles?

921
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 6: Now now I'm going to do that?

922
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: Heile, No.

923
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 5: But but so basically he was testing it and then

924
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 5: and then his executive functioning was so low that he

925
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 5: he That's how we found out that he was really

926
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 5: like exactly like you know, textbook ADHD.

927
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 4: Now there's just labels for everything, like we were going

928
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 4: through all of this, I'm sure when we were kids.

929
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: Now everything is labeled, so you know.

930
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 6: I know, But then I feel like that's problematic because

931
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 6: I mean, some kids, it's like I think it gives

932
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 6: them a sense of identity, you know, like oh, I

933
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 6: have ADHD and I have dyslexia and you know all

934
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 6: this stuff. But I also think sometimes it can feel confining.

935
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 6: For like when you guys are talking about your the

936
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 6: sort of like freedom of your childhood but now realizing

937
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 6: as adults, like, oh shit, I have IDIO, Like I

938
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 6: had that my whole life. You know, I don't know,

939
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 6: there's it's it's finding the right balance.

940
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: Of I think.

941
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 5: I think that what is interesting about it is that

942
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: where you would feel floating anxiety, where you would have

943
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 5: a certain thing that came with it that other people

944
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: didn't relate to, that now the research is showing that

945
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: people who do have certain things do have real ADHD.

946
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 5: A lot of them are artists, a lot of them

947
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: are very much more right brained and and but but

948
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 5: they also with that comes a lot of anxieties or

949
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 5: you know, like panic attacks and depression and yeah, and

950
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 5: so with that you at least now we can understand,

951
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 5: like it does create this idea that you're always having

952
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: to keep up with everybody else, yea, and in an

953
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 5: in an institution that is telling you to keep up

954
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 5: and it's so hard. Does create overall anxiety that your

955
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 5: brain actually attaches to as you get older, and you

956
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 5: don't know where it's coming from. And in a lot

957
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 5: of times, just having the knowledge of like, oh wait

958
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 5: a minute, I've been like chasing things my whole life.

959
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: Of course, I have a tendency for anxiety or.

960
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: Thinking I need to be a certain way right exactly.

961
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's fascinating.

962
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: You guys are literally talking about me.

963
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: I know.

964
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: That's why I was saying, you need the work.

965
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: Very sensitive, very very sensitive person.

966
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 4: I know, where do you think where are you most

967
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: concerned about how you are raising your child? Meaning upon

968
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: self reflection? You know, is there is You're like, God,

969
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm doing this right? I think

970
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 4: I am, but I'm not sure is there anything specific,

971
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: especially being a working person, someone who's away, someone who's

972
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: making a living and following their dreams and doing what

973
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: they love.

974
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 6: Well, that's a really good question because I feel like

975
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 6: it's just so across the board, you know, it becomes

976
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 6: this all encompassing like mom worried. But like the first

977
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 6: thing that comes to my mind when you ask, when

978
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 6: I listen to you listen to the question, is that

979
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 6: you know Yobi is adopted and black, and sometimes I

980
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 6: have I think an inherent like that's an inherent sort

981
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 6: of question mark for me, like am I doing this right?

982
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 6: Am I giving him.

983
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: What he needs?

984
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 6: Around those things? You know? There there's there's a mystery

985
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 6: I'm imagining for you guys as parents, like you see

986
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 6: yourselves and your kids so for me, there is a

987
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 6: mystery to that, Like Yobi is as a human being

988
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 6: that I am truly getting to know, like and I've

989
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 6: known since he was eight months old.

990
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: But you know, there's.

991
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 6: He's you know, I don't know where he comes from,

992
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 6: and so I mean I know where he comes from,

993
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 6: but like that's it's there are things that he had,

994
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 6: you know, like he has some learning differences as well,

995
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 6: and just navigating Oh, this is who you are, this

996
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 6: is what you need. I don't have any clues.

997
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: So interesting. I never even thought about it that way.

998
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

999
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as as he gets older, you know, just

1000
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: everything keeps blossoming beautiful.

1001
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 6: He is in the sweetest moment right now. Oh my god,

1002
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 6: he's like the sweetest. But also he's listening to Kendrick

1003
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 6: Lamar Kendrick Lamar and We're in the car driving to school,

1004
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 6: and I'm like, but it's like, you know, I'm like,

1005
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 6: he's so agree and I'm like, you know, every n

1006
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 6: word every other second, and I just go like that.

1007
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 6: I'm like, and he just looks at me and smile. Yeah,

1008
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 6: you know, but it's like he's just so I'm so

1009
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: into like discovering who he is.

1010
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that curiosity.

1011
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: I wonder if that curiosity is just going to keep

1012
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 4: growing about who am I?

1013
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, where do I come from?

1014
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 6: You know?

1015
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: What makes me me?

1016
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: You know, as you get older, I'm sure that curiosity

1017
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: is only going to sort of build in him.

1018
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and trying to help him be comfortable with those questions,

1019
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 6: but also be comfortable with who he what he knows,

1020
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 6: and who he is, you know in the world.

1021
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: There's this great I was listening. I was with being

1022
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: on the way to school.

1023
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 5: This was before Kendrick Lamar because literally we listened to

1024
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 5: this and then he put on Kendrick, but before I

1025
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 5: listened to this rom DAWs thing. Uh, this him speaking

1026
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 5: about I am just being comfortable with I am.

1027
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: And I loved it.

1028
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: And it's such a it was such a good thing

1029
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 5: to play a t a budding teenager to like really think,

1030
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: like when all of those things become complicated, what is it?

1031
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: It's just to go it, go deep and just be

1032
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 5: comfortable with I am right now, right where you are,

1033
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 5: right now.

1034
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool.

1035
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: I'm going to find that.

1036
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: Okay, we love you.

1037
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 6: I wish we could.

1038
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 1: We were We're going to hang.

1039
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 6: It's like it let's make it happen. You're gonna we're

1040
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 6: gonna father my child while I'm let me thank you.

1041
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: Look, you'll do well. It's going to come back an

1042
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: amazing human being.

1043
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 5: Trust me, he'll definitely come back fishing and knowing how

1044
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: to filly fish.

1045
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 6: That's are you serious? You'll be? Would he would literally

1046
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 6: die to do that? Oh yeah, fishing so bad?

1047
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: Maybe I just got a one hundred pound blue fin

1048
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: tuna right off of our coast on my I have

1049
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: a boat.

1050
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, baby, Well, if you don't take us out on

1051
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 6: your boat.

1052
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: On, let's go catch some fish.

1053
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 6: But I'm not anymore.

1054
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: I know because you have a five year relationship.

1055
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 6: You love David, you have to.

1056
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: I want to. I'm excited. I'm excited for you. I

1057
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: love you.

1058
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 6: I love you guys, love you guys. So fun.

1059
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: By She's the best. I'm like it, I could be

1060
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: there's you know woman, she's the best.

1061
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 5: I think you and a lot of men are in

1062
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 5: love with Connie Britton, which is like, she's Connie Brittain.

1063
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: She's the best. I could have talked her for five hours.

1064
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: She's so easy. I love her whole energy.

1065
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 6: So that was that was the best week.

1066
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: We got totally off track. I like off track so fun.

1067
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: Now that's it. I love you, Allie, I love you

1068
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: Kaya