1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian, I've said it for a year. We've 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: been talking about it for a very long time, and 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: it's something I felt twenty years ago when I saw 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: where computers were taking over cars, that there was gonna 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: be a shortage of mechanics. But now it's sort of 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: sticking right in our faceachnical definition of the words and 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: capable of the car doctor. If you look nationally at 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: seventy six thousand, six hundred annually. Uh, and we're just 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: talking about cars. I find the narrowest bound to the 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: art because you can go all kinds of directions with mechanics, 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: can't steel it just the automotive technician who's working on 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: family cars in a garage. I consu really upset about this. 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage doors are open, but 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: I am here to take your call at eight five 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: five six, And now this mission is too important for 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: me to allow you to jeopardize and running. Hey, it's 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: time to start your engines. All on and welcome running. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Any of the car Doctor here at eight five five 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero The Car Doctor 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: seven phone number eight five five five six zero nine 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: zero zero call, leave a message if there is no answer, 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes even if Tom's here, there is no answer 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: U five zero nine zero zero seven phone number justifies 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: and leaves a message and Tom will call you back 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: and put you in the next queue for the next 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: live broadcast. We are live starting out on the radio 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: network through our affiliate chain Saturday afternoons to the four 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: pm East Coast time here in the continental United States. 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I have to qualify all that now. It used to 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: be a lot easier. How many years you know, Tom, 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about how it's I think we have 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: another anniversary coming up soon. Um. I just realized that 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: I I counted on my fingers toes and the end 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: of the month, the month I think it's take a 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: look back, but we're on air. How many we're on air? 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: Six or seven independent and nine one January January? See 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: for me, I look at January second, nine nine one, 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: which is when I first started. So that makes it 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: nine years, twenty eight years two more years I get 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: to retire. So we're going to sizzl and you know, 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: you're only thirty nine years old. That's the amazing things. 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I just you know, you know, 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: you know what the funny part is about this radio 48 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: sho excuse him in the folks, I was picking up 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: lunch today, right, and the guy in the Delhi Paul, 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: he's he's talking to me, and you know, you kind 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: of get to know people after a while, you know, 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: and he's it was a shop closed today. You have 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: the shops closed today. He goes, oh, hey, goes, you're 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: buying a lot of food. Um, yeah, well, you know 55 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: it's I gotta feed the boys. I gotta feed the crew. 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: And he says what crew? And I said, well, because I, 57 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, do a Ruders show on Saturdays. And he 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: was like, you do what? And I said, Rudy show 59 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: on Saturdays. You know you don't you kind of don't 60 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: want to get into this. You don't want to have 61 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: this conversation. So he goes, what do you mean you 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: do a radio show? I explained, I said, well, you know, 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: I you know I and you know, and I made 64 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: the mistake. I forgot that there were other people in 65 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: the Delhi. This was a bad thing, right. So there's 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: a guy to people back with this van and he 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: comes up and he says your who And I went, uh, 68 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: that's why I was late getting back Fellas right, and 69 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Paul never saw me do this. The owner, so I 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: this this This gentleman's tell me he's got this to 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: fifty and the brake pedal goes down load to the 72 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: floor and Ford Camp fix it and he's got all 73 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: these problems and I pull you got a piece of paper. 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: He gives me a piece of paper and I started 75 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: drawing him diagrams, circles and arrows and ten color glossie pictures, 76 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And I explained to the guy how 77 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: the A B S system works. And the guy's just 78 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: sitting there like this, you know, and he's looking back 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: and forth and you can see the sweat coming up 80 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: and he's just like wow. And I said, who's working 81 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: on this? He goes, oh, the FOURD dealer. So no, 82 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: who's your technician? He goes, gee, I don't know. I said, well, 83 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: go in and have so and so were so and 84 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: so working on it through the two sharpest text up 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: there and they'll fix it and give him my diagram. 86 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: If they have any questions, just tell him you saw 87 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: the card doctor, and they'll know how to find me 88 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: and we can talk about it. And I walked out. 89 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: You know when you do that, it's just like you 90 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: can hear in the background. You know who was that 91 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: mask man? Right? You know you can hear you know, 92 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: you can hear it going off in your head because 93 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: the guy goes, wow, it really makes sense. This will 94 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: fix the truck. It's only been seven months. And I 95 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: almost that's when I almost tripped walking down the stairs. 96 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: And that's why you guys almost don't get lunch back today. Um, 97 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: but it is. It is kind of weird when that happens. 98 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: But I do enjoy doing it. But you have twenty 99 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: eight years on radio. I can't, I can't. I can't 100 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: believe it. And now Mike and I know why we 101 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: had to enlarge the top of the door when you 102 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: came in today. Well that was because I was carrying 103 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: your sandwich. Um, because your head got bigger. No, no, no, 104 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: I listen. I really don't like that, you know what 105 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: I very. I just don't like to, you know, I 106 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: just like to just be I just want to be Listen, 107 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you got a car problem. I'm glad to talk to 108 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: you about it. I just don't want to, you know. 109 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: But I thought about this guy with the van, and 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: it kind of led me to my next yellow Post 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: rent because I want to talk about why customers fail. 112 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: Because one of the things I I said to this 113 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: gentleman was I said, did you explain the problem to 114 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: them in depth? Did you tell them at this point, 115 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: now that they've done four wheel breaks, pads, rotors, calipers, 116 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: that you know somebody need to take a test ride 117 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: with you, did you you know? He said no, and 118 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: I said why not? He goes, well, I didn't want 119 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: to have them spend any more money. I want to 120 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: run up the bill. But you've already got into this truck. 121 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: It still doesn't work. It's been had a commission off 122 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: and on for the past seven months. You're a carpenter. 123 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: It would have been cheaper for you to buy a 124 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: new vehicle at this point. He goes, yeah, but now 125 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: I can't afford to. I've lost all that work. Why 126 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: do customers feel I'll tell you my story. Two thousand 127 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: five Honda Arthur came in yesterday I've seen Arthur once before. 128 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: He's a consumer. He's not a customer. You know, he 129 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: was a customer once. And you know, there's a line 130 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: in the sand with me, there really is. We'll I'll 131 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: go to a point and then I'm starting to question 132 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. I'm trying to fix your 133 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: car and take care of it the best way I 134 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: know how. Two thousand five Honda Arthur's got and he 135 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: wants to get the oil change. Can I bring it 136 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: it on Monday? And I want you to look over 137 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: the car and you know, see what it needs. And 138 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: I said, well, I can't really do it Monday. Um, 139 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: I could do it Tuesday. Well, I can't do it Tuesday. 140 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: Said what day can you do it? He said, I 141 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: can need to do it Monday or Friday. Okay, then 142 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: I can do it Friday. I can do it a 143 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: week from today, which was yesterday was Friday, Today's We'll 144 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: do it next Friday. He says, Is that the soonest? Well, yeah, 145 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you know. If I can't, you know, 146 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: and and if you if you if I can't do 147 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: it Monday and you can't do it Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, 148 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: My guest is Friday is probably the next day? All right? Um, 149 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: I could say something, but I'm trying to be nice. 150 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: So we book it for Friday and look the whole 151 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: car over. Well, you know, g R three, let me look. 152 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: You know, the last time you were here in July, 153 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: so it's been six months. I said, you know, the 154 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: car was due for trans fluid change and the car 155 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: was due for a cool and service. Do you want 156 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: to do that? Yeah? How much is that? And I said, 157 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: I end it up. I said it's about two or 158 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: fifty bucks, three bucks something like that, whatever it is. Now, 159 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: just do the oil change. So we went from I 160 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: want you to take the car and Monday change the oil, 161 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: look it over and do it needs to be done too. 162 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna change the oil and do nothing. And we're 163 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: annoyed that we're doing it on Friday because he can't 164 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: do it on Monday because he wants what he wants 165 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: when he wants it. All right, it's it's it's it's 166 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: you know. I kept thinking about having to Costello when 167 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: he saw the monster. When I tell you so what 168 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I saw what I saw, I saw it. So he leaves. 169 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: I go back to work. Fifteen minutes of phone rings. 170 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: That was Arthur. Hey, you know I found somebody to 171 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: do it on Monday. I'm gonna cancel them. I'm gonna 172 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: cancel my appointment. Okay. Now when his car breaks the 173 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: next time, all right, and there's a problem, and you 174 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: know he comes in and and am I obligated to 175 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: give him an appointment? Do I really have to work 176 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: with somebody like that? I don't think so. And the 177 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: point becomes why do customers fail? Customers fail because they 178 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: failed to look at the bigger picture. They failed to look. 179 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: And I guess tell you who they are is really 180 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: what it's all about. Too. They show you the relationship 181 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: they wish to have, and I get it. Somebody out 182 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: there is saying, hey, Ron, you're a jerk. You're wrong. 183 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: You know it's mechanics or nothing but a bunch of 184 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: rip ball of artists. No, not really, there's good in 185 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: bed and on both sides of the counter. The issue 186 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: is dealing with an automobile today. There is a very 187 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: concise and exact manner in which it's supposed to be maintained, 188 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what your pocketbook says. If the 189 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: car needs this, then you have to make that decision, 190 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: and you have to choose whether or not you want 191 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: to service and maintain that car properly to get the 192 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: distance and mileage out of it that the manufacturer recommends. 193 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: And I, you know, I get it. Somebody out there's 194 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: going hair wrong. I changed my battery every eight years 195 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: and I never changed my oil in the car is 196 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: still going. Yeah, I know. But your definition of what's 197 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: a car and what my definition of what's a car 198 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: is probably two different definitions. All right. You know when 199 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: when you when you look at a car and it 200 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: comes into a shop and you've you've you've you've got 201 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: to do it. Um. You know you've got to understand 202 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: too that shops aren't stupid, not not, not most of 203 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: the ones. I say, all right, we know, you know, 204 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: I love it when somebody will bring you a card 205 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: they haven't been in a while, and if you're the 206 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: only mechanic I trust, and you're the only guy I 207 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: let work on my car. And by the way, I've 208 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: got this check engine light on and and I need 209 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: to get it diagnosed. And you know, you haven't seen 210 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: the person in two years, and you get in the 211 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: car and the oil changed sticker is freshly removed. You 212 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: can tell the glue is still on the windshield. And gee, Arthur, 213 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: why do you uh you know, is this car do 214 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: for a loil change? No, I just had it done. 215 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: They forgot to put the stick arong because they went 216 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: somewhere else. They've been going to somebody else. They were cheaper, 217 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: they were quicker, they were faster. They had the appointment 218 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: on Monday, and the person couldn't fix it, so then 219 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: they bring it to you. Why do customers fail? I 220 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: think it's a real timely topic. I think it's something 221 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: that's got to get addressed. I think that and listen, 222 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Free Country, last time I checked. Until Trump builds the wall, 223 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's it's still you've got to 224 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: decide what you're looking for in a mechanic and what 225 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: you're trying to achieve. And if it's you know, if 226 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: it's speed and accuracy, if it's price, is it just 227 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: overall how you were treated? But mechanics, the better ones, 228 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: the smarter shops are also looking for how the customers 229 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: treat them. And after a while it's gonna come down 230 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: to there's a shortage, and that's part of the issue 231 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: where the guy couldn't get an oil change on Monday, 232 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: um and to look the car over because there's just 233 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: too much other work going on. I don't know. Maybe 234 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: it's me. Maybe maybe customers fail because they're they're they're 235 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: destined to fail, and maybe that's their lesson. Maybe it's me. 236 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I should have accommodated the guy and giving up 237 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: lunch on Monday and just done something different. I don't know, 238 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: but it's an interesting thing that uh, you know what. 239 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: It's a two way street in terms of time. Time 240 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: is the only thing that repair shops have to sell 241 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: besides parts, and in that time is their knowledge and 242 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: expertise and how they handle it is a reflection on 243 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: the shop as well as the customer. Five zero on 244 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: eating of the car doctor cruising back right after this, 245 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: don't go away eos need advice on how to maintain 246 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: that classic g t O. Ron is the guy eight 247 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: five five five zero nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, 248 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: let's get on over and talk to Stephen Vermont. Steve, 249 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Run on the inning at your servicer? Hi, Ron, 250 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. I'm just following up on 251 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: a conversation you've had last week or the listener regarding 252 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: the Toyota rusty frame issue, right, the truck frames. Sure, yes, 253 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: and um, you said that you were not really quite 254 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: sure why Toyota, you know, didn't get as bad at 255 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: a rap on such a huge problem, whereas perhaps uh, 256 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, General Motors and maybe Forward uh might take 257 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: the problems they've had. But my my understanding, and I 258 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: don't know everything there is to know about this, but 259 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: my understanding is the way this whole thing with Toyota 260 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: went down with these frames is that uh, there was 261 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: no recall to my knowledge, you know, no no National 262 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Traffic Safety Administration recall or anything on these frames. Is 263 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: that Toyota recognize that they had a problem with the frames, 264 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: they stepped up. They put a comprehensive plan in place 265 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: where they either replaced the frames or they paid out 266 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: some very generous um buy backs for the whole trucks. 267 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: So I think that maybe one of the reasons why 268 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: they didn't perhaps get such a bad rap on it 269 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: because they really stepped up into care of it. Okay, Um, 270 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I think they stepped up steve. 271 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: I think they did. They tried to, I believe, and 272 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and research it. But I 273 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: believe that some of the model years were recalled and 274 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: that led to the subsequent voluntary recall or the appearance 275 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: of a voluntary recall by Toyota on the other parts. 276 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: So here, let me give you a slightly different example. 277 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: All right, if I can um, I've got a customer 278 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: with a Toyota RAV four. It's got ninety three thousand 279 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: gentle miles on it has the oil chains on a 280 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: very regular basis, all right, correct oil, good filter the 281 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: whole nine yards. About a year ago and the two 282 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: thousand mile mark, she started consuming oil. There's a little 283 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: twelve RAV four four cylinder. She started having an oil 284 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: consumption issue. And when she went back and talked to Toyota, 285 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: they said, yep, that's right. And the answer she got 286 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: was that she needed rings. The rings were gummed up 287 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: and and there were issues because Toyota has some issues 288 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: low tension rings and oil control and YadA YadA ya, 289 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: and and it's really customer pay. And you know we're 290 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: not talking about that one. You know that that just 291 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: sort of went under the radar. And and she's not 292 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: the only one I've got probably uh, you know, twelve 293 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: whatever the number is. Um Toyota and Honda customers both 294 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: in a similar situation. Honda is recalling some of their 295 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: vehicles and rebuilding the engines in in house in the dealer, uh, 296 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, And whether it's it's it's the quality of 297 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: oil to filter the frequency in between the changes, who knows? 298 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Who cares? You know, and listen, I get what you're saying, 299 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: all right. I think sometimes car companies do do the 300 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: right things, and I think sometimes they they do stupid things. 301 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's in Toyota's case, I think 302 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: the government was leaning on the for the frames, and 303 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's let's make it a good pr day. 304 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: Let's make it look like we're gonna do this voluntarily ahead. Yeah. 305 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: Being up here in Vermont, of course, we have of uh, 306 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the salt factor. And so I can tell you that 307 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: my local Toyota dealer here in my town, when they 308 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: started this whole thing, they had a field that was 309 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: as big as a football field at least, full of 310 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: trucks that people had turned in. Now, these are these 311 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: are the ones that we're gonna that they bought back. 312 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: M Additionally, you know, they changed a lot of frames um. 313 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: And I'm a small business owner where my office is 314 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: here happened to have a recycling facility down below me. 315 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: So I have seen hundreds of these Toyota frames, the 316 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: rested ones, going down to the recycling plant down here 317 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: by my shop. And the thing that baffled me about 318 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: this whole Toyota frame issue was how many years it 319 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: went on. I just it seemed as though they would 320 00:15:54,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: continue to build trucks with with that frames and can 321 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: get to replace them, you know, I didn't that part 322 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: of the I just don't understand because it's it's been 323 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: many many years that they've done this, um And it's 324 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: kind of a related sidebar in my business I have. 325 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think we were We've got about 326 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: eighteen GM pickups and vans, three quarter ton vans pickups 327 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: and things like that. Now I've had four or five 328 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: of those that I've had to pull off the road 329 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: because the frames were bad on them. No other reason, 330 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: um why I couldn't continue to run them. But up 331 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: here in Vermont, once the frame is bad, they're not 332 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: allowed to be patched, so we have to take them 333 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: off the road. How how old were those How old 334 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: were those GM vehicles, Uh ten eleven years old? How 335 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: many miles on them? You are kind of a low 336 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: mileage company. I'd say in that time frame, we've got 337 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: about a hundred and ten thousand on them. It's not enough, right, 338 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: and I GM should do something thing right, GM should 339 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: step up to the plate. And you know, their their 340 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: argument is their argument is, well, you know, it's eleven 341 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 1: years old horse hockey. Um. Now, I don't know if 342 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: this is true either, but someone told me that whoever 343 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: made the frames for Toyota also made him for the 344 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: small gms like the Canyons and all its trucks. And 345 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. Yeah, I haven't. I 346 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: haven't heard that myself. You know. It's it's unfortunately, you know. 347 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: And I'm a small businessman too outside of radio, and 348 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: I try to do things, you know, both ethically and 349 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: clearly and fairly, and I try to be fair to 350 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: myself and I try to be fair to the customer too, 351 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: uh you know, but unfortunately in big business, they they 352 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's dollars at a level that it's 353 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: hard for guys like you and I to understand and 354 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: and and relate to. And I think that's part of 355 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: issue too. Um. You know, when I come back, I'm 356 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: gonna let you go. Tom. You can there, Steve, I'm sorry. 357 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: You can listen to the rest of it. When I 358 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: come back, I'll tell you a story about the old 359 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: for Subourbon that uh, you know, kind of baffled me too. 360 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: It's sort of along the lines of these frames that 361 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: are corroding. Um. In any event, Steve, I appreciate the call. 362 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm Ron. Any of the card doctors eight five five 363 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero. We're back right after this. 364 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: Don't go away, welcome back, Nay of the card doctor 365 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: right five five zero nine zero zero. The phone number. 366 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Give us a call number, Tom, I'll put you in 367 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: the queue. If we're not here, leave a message and 368 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: we'll get back to He got the mail today. And 369 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: what the heck is this? This came to me from Ford. 370 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: Uh you know, dear Ron, hope you're loving your exploring. 371 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: It's a little pull out tap comes out of an 372 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: envelope and it says, let's see, driving your new vehicle 373 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: will even be more satisfying once you download Ford Pass 374 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: to help you find parking and select cities, fuel, and 375 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: so much more. Flip about the card to get started 376 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: with takes a few minutes to register. More technology, right, 377 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: and let's see here download register done, skin this cr code, 378 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: activate your connection Ford Pass, amplify your ownership experience. What 379 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: the car works. I'll be thrilled. Scheduled service appointments, make 380 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: car payments remotely, unlock and start your vehicle now with 381 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: the voice commands through ford Pass, Alexas skill, find reserve 382 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: and pay for parking and select cities. The problem is 383 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't really tell you what to do after. I'm 384 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: not thinking a young person to show me this. Michael, 385 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: what are you doing after the show today? We'll have 386 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: to uh. Um, you know, I'm gonna hand this out 387 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: to the boys in the control room. We'll get rid 388 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: of that. Uh. You know. Listen, I because you look 389 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: at that right. And this is what kind of got 390 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: me on this, right. I was reading a copy of 391 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: Chevy Classics, uh last night. I brought this with me 392 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: to the studio today and it's an article about the 393 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: Texas nomen and I realized, oh, you guys, a story 394 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: about the suburban. Give me a minute. So there's a 395 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: guy in Texas. He's got the most beautiful dusk Pearl 396 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Nomad fifty seven two door. The Nomad was in its 397 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: final year as a two door model. Starting with fifty 398 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: eight UH model year, the Nomab became a top of 399 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: the line four door and sold in far greater numbers. 400 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: Only sixty three fifty seven Chevy Nomads were built, and 401 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: it talks about how in the mid nineteen fifties General Motors. 402 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: Anybody want to guess how much of the car market 403 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: General Motors had in the fifties, What do you think, 404 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: tom right on the mark, GM had fifty percent of 405 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: the car market, which now I haven't looked lately, but 406 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: the last time I looked a while, I think it 407 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: was like under eighteen percent. They've they've lost that much, 408 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: and you've got to think there's more cars on the 409 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: road now, right, uh, you know, to make it a 410 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: bigger deal. Um. But the article goes on and I 411 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: was just reading it first, and it's like it takes 412 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: you back. The fifty six and fifty seven Chevalley passenger 413 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: car lines were built on the foundation of the fifty five, 414 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: and significant restyling made the fifty seven model easily distinguishable 415 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: from its predecessors. However, styling changes alone or not all 416 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Cheverley had an offer for this model. You're Chevrolet's chief engineer, 417 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Harry Barr, who wrote the forward to the fifty seven 418 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: Chevalley Engineering Features Manual. I'd like to have some of 419 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: this literature right now, right, I mean, this stuff would 420 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: be neat to read, okay, stated New two eighty three 421 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: cubic inch displacement engine, cubic inch new hit. I'll take 422 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: take two. Let they get my mouth working. New twenty 423 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: three cubic inch displacement B eight engine, wow A V eight, 424 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: The turbo Glide, luxury automatic transmission, a fuel injection system 425 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: of revolutionary design, and numerous chassis improvements are illustrative of 426 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: the mechanical advances available to the customer at nineteen fifty seven. Yea, 427 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: and think of how simple those cars were, or were 428 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: they that simple to work on? All? Right? And you 429 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: look at the computer cars today and say, you know, 430 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't uh doesn't make sense, But 431 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: just neat stuff. I love this magazine. It just takes 432 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: you back to a very very simple time. We're talking 433 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: a little bit before the break to Steve up in 434 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: Vermont about the Toyota frames rusting out, and you know, 435 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: what they just the car companies just there's just strange 436 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: things that happened. My old four Suburban two thousand four Subourban. 437 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: I think it's just got about sixty four thousand miles 438 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: on it. And you know, so think about, oh force 439 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: was four fourteen cars sixteen years old, seventeen years old, right, 440 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: oh four, it's just about it's just about sixteen years 441 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: old now. And you know, here's a car that's been 442 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: pampered and and and washed more times than I can imagine, 443 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: and waxed. And I mean the first day we had it, 444 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: it was three hours old. We were out what we 445 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: watched it and I waxed the whole truck. You know, 446 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: this truck has never This truck is barely seen. I 447 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: won't say never, but it's barely sees bad weather, wet weather, salt, corrosion, 448 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: et cetera. There's a rust blister. You ever look at 449 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: the back of There's two vehicles. I can say, I 450 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: see this on Chevy Suburbans and Ford Explorers. All right, 451 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Foolishly I bought an Explorer. But it's a little different 452 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: body style. The older body styles. The O eight's the 453 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: O nine. Is that body style you ever Look at 454 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: that body style Explorer. Next time you're the traffic light 455 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: and you pull up behind it, look at the little 456 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: plastic panel that's above the license plate. It's gonna have 457 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: a crack on the left side. They all do it. 458 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but they all do it. They 459 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: all crack on the left side. I don't know if 460 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: it's because you push the tailgate down and over time 461 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: it just cracks the panel, but I see it on 462 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: everyone that I come across. My old four Suburban has 463 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: a problem where it's got a rust blister, a huge 464 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: rust blister around the push button in the back of 465 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: the automatic door, the you know, the hatch, and it's 466 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: just it's raised the paint up to the point that 467 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: it's it's I'm gonna have to get it painted. The 468 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: sad part is that if I open the hatch and 469 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: I look underneath the edge where the the it sits 470 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: against the body seal, it's all rusted there too. So 471 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: I guarantee you the entire inside of the door is rotted. 472 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: This is a car that and I'm not kidding. If 473 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: I if I washed it and brought it by, you 474 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe this truck is sixteen years old. It's that 475 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: shiny and clean. I loaned it to one of the 476 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: children units. The other week, I was servicing her car 477 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: and she had to go somewhere and she went out 478 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: to lunch somewhere in the valet, took the car keys 479 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: and he was just shy. Said to where he goes. Boy, 480 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: we never see O four suburbans that look like this. Um, 481 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: you know, he was a mechanic during the day. She 482 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: was out at night, and uh, he said, it's really nice. 483 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: He goes. We just like these old body styles, and 484 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: it's just so refreshing to see something and in this 485 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of shape because it's it's got sixty five sixty 486 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: four thousand miles on it. But point becomes General Motors. 487 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, what did I do wrong? Is it? 488 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: You know? The hatches just rusting and falling away, it's 489 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: withering a into nothing. And yet I see other Chevrolet 490 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: Suburbans and the like trail Blazers. They all seemed to 491 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: do it. Do I condemn GM. I don't think you can. 492 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: I don't think you can. You know, I think it happens. 493 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: I think it's the things beyond their control, and I 494 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: think the argument of it's sixteen years old. What I 495 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: like it not to have happened. Yeah, great, I like 496 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: to be eighteen again too. That's not gonna happen either. Um. 497 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: But it's just, you know, bad things happen to good vehicles, 498 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: whether the frames wrought out, the back hatches rought out, 499 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: the spoiler tab cracks, and you just hope that you 500 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: get a vehicle that, uh, you know it's gonna be 501 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: a good one in other areas because everything has its 502 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: problem And that's part of this conversation too. Everything has 503 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: its failures. And and if you think every vehicle is 504 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna be perfect forever, then it's it's it's not a car, 505 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: and it just doesn't work like that. So let's do 506 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: a quick piece of email. It will pull over and 507 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: take the pause. Hey, Ron, couple of issues with any seeds. 508 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: I like the way and this is from Nathan. I 509 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: love the way Nathan wrote this. It's like a scientific 510 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: explanation of what goes bad with any season. Been talking 511 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: about it a little bit past couple of weeks. Foremost 512 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: is that regardless of formulation, it alters the coefficient of friction. 513 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: There's a fancy way of saying how it affects things 514 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: sliding together between the two metal threaded surfaces. Basically, any 515 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: seas acts of any sort will end up functioning incidentally 516 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: as a lubricant between these surfaces. The classic silver anti 517 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: seas usually made of a mixture of particles of glass 518 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: and metal suspended and a heavy grease. A few drops 519 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: of oil of any sort grease even threadling compounds lock 520 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: locked tight whose purpose is almost diametrically opposed diametrically opposed 521 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: to that of any seas, will serve to decrease the 522 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: amount of torque required to achieve a given level of 523 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: clamping force between surfaces. This is like being beat up 524 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: by Western's dictionary, all right. This dramatically increases the risk 525 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: of fastener a thread failure, as well as that of 526 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: surface deformation break Roder's wark, which is commonly caused by 527 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: overtightening lug nut lug nuts an application such as a 528 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: wheel or actual bearing. This overtightenings early failures. Well, yeah, 529 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I know that. Um, we don't like lug We don't 530 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: like any season lug nuts. Um you know, let me 531 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: pull over and take the pozzle. Finish this when I 532 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: come back on Marninini and don't go away. Whether it's 533 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: a little red Corvette or you go. You've come to 534 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: the right place to get that car fixed. Ron and 535 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: Ay in the car doctor five five zero zero zero. 536 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: Now back to n Let's just finish up our email. 537 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do an email here from Nathan about 538 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: anti Sas Nathan goes on to point out, he says, 539 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: an additional issue exists with anti sas with classic silver. 540 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: When the grease that serves as a carrier fluid draws, 541 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: the tiny metallic and glass particles that are primarily working 542 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: ingredients can get into the machinery. These particles are highly 543 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: abrasive and coost serious dammage. This issue can also cause 544 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: a blation a B L A T I O. When 545 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm getting beat up by Webster here 546 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: of threads. But this isn't likely except with low quality fasteners. 547 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: Are those too small to be likely locked to be 548 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: likely to lock up? Yeah? I Green, Nathan. I think 549 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: any season has changed a lot. The formulation is different. 550 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: I think that using it blind on valls today is 551 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: a mistake. I think it's a case by case basis, 552 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: and it depends on how the vehicle and where the 553 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: vehicles going. That will determine how much of it I use. 554 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: We UM. We used to put it a god it's 555 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: been it's got to be eighteen years since we last 556 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: put any season lung notes, especially on plow vehicles, because 557 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: of the change in formulation. And I agree at times 558 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: you think you do need anti cs. But whatever happened, 559 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: the formula did change. UM oblation ablation of threads um. 560 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: That one just got me. So I want to get 561 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: to this one. This one's for Tim, Tim checking and run. 562 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I pulled the engine in my two thousand Chevy Venture 563 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: and resealed the heads and upward and lower intake. I 564 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: also put in a new transmission. It's a thirty engine. 565 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: It runs but dies. It has a code P zero 566 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: one oh two man sair flow low. I've checked powers 567 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: and grounds reference voltage of five volts. Also put a 568 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: news mass errand still won't run any ideas Tim, Yeah, Tim, 569 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: listen if you're out there listening. If it runs, but 570 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: it won't idle, all right, sounds like we've got a 571 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: vacuum week somewhere. We've got something the computer can't compensate 572 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: for now. Ideally, this is something that I would love 573 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: to take a smoke machine and put some smoke down 574 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: the intake throat and look to see do we have 575 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: leaks anywhere. I don't think you're gonna have an intake machine, 576 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, in your house. So let's try and do 577 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: the next best thing. Let's get the vehicle to run, 578 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: get it warm, let it start, and let's get a 579 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: mechanic stethoscope. You're gonna have to spend some money somewhere, 580 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: you'ren have to buy something. And let's listen around. You know, 581 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: does it sound like a hiss somewhere? Does it sound 582 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: like we're we're we're losing vacuum, which is going to 583 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: affect um not only fuel trim but also mass airflow 584 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: sensor flow. If you look at fuel trim warmed up 585 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: off IDLEPM, where is it? If this has a decent 586 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: sized vacuum, we can try and back the idol speed 587 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: down lower so that you're, you know, close to the 588 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: idle range eight thousand rpm as you can be, and 589 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, start to pay attention to fuel trim. Where 590 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: does fuel trim go? Take a look at it on 591 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: a scantal Gotta have a scantl brother um. You know 592 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: what does that tell you where is it going. This 593 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: sounds to me more like it's a vacuum leak than 594 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: anything else. Something wasn't reassembled right now, We've got to 595 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: go through the pain of eliminating that to understand it. 596 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: One last thing, make sure or stop and consider. Boy, 597 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: this would be a great case of a smoke test 598 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: to be able to smoke this to see what this 599 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: looks like. Um, but you know, let's let's let's start 600 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: with basics first and kind of take it from there. 601 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: You know it's it's I don't think it's a sensor. 602 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: You've proved that. Let's think outside the box where we're 603 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna go. We've got low mass airflow. Um, do we 604 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: have a crack and an intake duct? Is there a 605 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: problem with any of the engine plumbing elsewhere before the 606 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: mass air that it's it's creating this particular issue a 607 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: five zero run eating the car doctor. I'll be back 608 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, tons of email coming in Ron 609 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: and eating the card doctor. Let's see what we can 610 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: clear up before we leave today. Hey, Ron, Happy New Year. 611 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: I know this is not Berryman B twelve, but if 612 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: you might want to know about this deal on tech 613 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Ron at half price from Advanced Loto Parts. I don't 614 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: know if there are times you might prefer Mica from Maine. 615 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: You know what, Mike Listen. I think tech Ron is 616 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: a decent fuel system cleaner, I really do. I don't 617 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: think it's as good as Berriman. Okay, it doesn't matter 618 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: at the price. Maybe Advance is selling it cheap because uh, 619 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's a problem with uh whatever. Um. 620 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into that. Uh. You know, 621 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: if the question is there are times I might prefer 622 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: tech Round versus Barrriman. No, not really, UM, I think 623 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: you know Berryman, I think tech Round is more of 624 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: a maintenance type of cleaner, where Berryman to me is 625 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: a maintenance and problem solver. And I prefer to use 626 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Berriman regardless, just because it does a better job overall, 627 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's got some real good things in there. 628 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: The hest the high energy solving technologies. What sets Berriman 629 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: apart from other fuel system cleaners like tech Ron. Um, 630 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: you know remember what I say? Okay, it's you know, 631 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaners are only as good as the company 632 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: behind them, and only as good as the engineering that 633 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: make them. And I think Berryman right now is the 634 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: leader of the pack. I think they've got the edge 635 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: over everybody else. And they're constantly adapting and changing. And 636 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: that's that's one of the things you've got to remember 637 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: about Berryman, uh, you know, is that the fuel that 638 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: we're using today is different than the fool the fuel 639 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: that we were probably using three months ago, that we 640 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: were using a year ago. And they've got to come 641 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: up with different additives and and different formulations of Barriman 642 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: B twelve as well as an ether line of fuel 643 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: system and you know, cleaning products for around the car, 644 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: around the shop. And you know, that's what sets them apart. 645 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: It's you're buying the engineering just as much as you're 646 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: actually buying the physical product to allow it to adapt 647 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: the changes or whatever it is it's working. On Barriman's case, 648 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: it's that of gasoline used the Berryman micah regardless of 649 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: the price. Remember, you get what you pay for. Folks 650 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: over motorcraft are busy. Um. I got this announcement that 651 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: and we talk about the PSN and a lot of 652 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: people say to me, hey, wrong, what's motorcraft ps And 653 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: they don't really know. So, you know, Ford Ford Motorcraft, 654 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: Ford Parts, Motorcraft and Omniparts. They've got something called the 655 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: Professional Service Network or ps n UM. The ps N 656 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: from Ford Motorcraft and Omnicraft is all about service centers, 657 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: independent repair shops that are using Ford Motorcraft or Omnicraft 658 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: parts that you know, have a bunch of things available 659 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: to them, you know, to help them compete and provide 660 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: a better repair experience. Uh. You know, they've now made 661 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: some changes where they're going to help repair shops acquire 662 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: identifics and other information systems, are gonna provide discounts on 663 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, repair shops, software on the rotuns of software, 664 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: Dell computer discounts, you know, Hewlett Packard discounts, all courtesy 665 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: the folks. And you know they're arranging this program Forward Parts, Motocraft, 666 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: Omnicraft and you know it it comes back to they're 667 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: really working hard to build a better independent repair shop. 668 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: Which you think about it, They're working hard to build 669 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: a better independent repair shop experience for both the consumer 670 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and the repair shop. And make sure that that vehicle 671 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: you ve, whether it's a Ford product or anything else, uh, 672 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, out on the road, GM, G, M, christ 673 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: or Toyota Honda, et cetera, you know, using omni craft. 674 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's a heck of a step forward 675 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: for Ford and that they're continuing to expand the professional 676 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: service of the PSN network. UM you know, more information 677 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: at Ford PSN dot com, UM, you know, to talk 678 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: about it. And now they're they're creating a separate elite 679 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: membership versus you know, a standard membership, so there's repair 680 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: shops grow they can take advantage of of of more programs. 681 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: So we thank the guys from uh Ford ps N 682 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: for that Ford PSN dot com. Do you have to 683 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: get to my last email? I wanted to read this 684 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: email from Michael about then that called and we were 685 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: going to talk about um, you know, servicing it and 686 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: some of his ideas. It's interesting you talk to somebody 687 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: from Texas right away they tell you, hey, it's not 688 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: it's not a bad Deal'll just put three or four 689 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in the car driving another two in a 690 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: thousand miles. That's what we do down here, Texas way. 691 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: God bless the Texans, right, God blessed Texas. I think 692 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: that's the way that works. And until the next time, 693 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: I want to remind each and every one of you 694 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: that I'm running any in the car. Doctor. Good mechanics 695 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you