WEBVTT - Ep. 171: Let Them Wear Pink 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is a me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.400 folk bitten, and in my case, underwear listening. Un don't 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:45.640 me to eat podcast. You can't predict that anything. All right, everybody, 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:56.720 thanks for coming out. Ben's the man. I'm the man. Yeah. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.400 I figured that was either the start or the end 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:05.000 of my career. Yeah. What, Oh, go ahead, I want 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.920 to go, you know, I want to get startybody's clearing 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.160 the air. It um. I'm onto everyone here. I know 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:18.480 the truth. Man. You just tree hugging, rock kissing green decoys. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.240 There's some of you that might be here and you 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.120 don't know what you are. I'm gonna tell you about 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.320 what you are and how I've learned to see through it. First, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:35.960 I want to make sure everyone's clear on what you are. Ben, 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.120 you want to take a stab at it? Yeah? What 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.280 a b h a bad country hunters and anglers is 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:51.920 green decoys. You're a bunch of environmentalists, let snobs, liberals, liberals, 0:01:51.960 --> 0:02:01.320 liberals masquerading as sportsman. Shame on you. Yeah, you don't 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:05.640 need to add tum about what they are actors. They 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.360 act like they like guns, they act like they like 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.360 to hunt, act like they like to kill fish. They 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.359 act like they just want to be left alone to hunt. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:19.959 That's right, but what's the truth. They're like a trojan horse. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:27.400 They're sneaking into the far right to eventually take down 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:33.160 all hunting screen. I've seen the website. When I first 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.399 saw it, him like, dude, how did I not see it? Man? 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.519 I felt so naive. It was like because I always 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.359 saw I was looking at it. I was like, h A, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.560 you know, I've been supporting VHA for a long time, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.320 and I always saw. I was like, it seemed to 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.560 me like the hardest hitting hunting fishing dudes I knew about. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.040 And I used to look at a bit man, uh 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.080 if I had to think, like, if you were going 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:00.480 to take a membership and tally up hours spent per 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.919 year out in the woods or in the mountains or 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.919 in the swamps, there's no conservation group that would log 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.000 the hours spent a field per member that that this 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.200 one does. That was when I was stupid and naive. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.359 But then I started thinking about it, looking at it 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.079 more carefully, and I got looking at some of the members, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.360 you know, looking at what they do. Got the reading 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.280 about this person, she might even be here. Cindy states. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.560 Don't don't know. You gotta know the truth, don't. You 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.320 don't know the truth about her. You don't know the 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:38.360 truth about stops here, Cindy. She's a first off certified arborist. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.119 When I hear arborist, I know we're already talking about 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.640 in the elitist we're talking about when I hear arborrests. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:53.640 You know, tree hugger were literally out hugging trees. You 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.880 used to be an arbors cor That's why I know 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:01.200 that world man, So i'd I was like, okay, you know, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.200 maybe there's something to this green decoy business. Someone out 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.720 running chainsaws. And then uh, you know, I started to 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.720 smell a fish. Turns out she got to she gets 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.720 she started to pretend. I got a question. Do you 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.000 think like she carries a whole bunch of Kleenex? Because 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.080 when she's up in that tree cutting those limbs, she 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.680 there must be tears with every single thing. How she 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:28.920 started to hone her ability to live a lie. She's like, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.800 she's she started to infil like to infiltrate and learn 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.880 how to live a lie. So she's like cutting trees, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.640 but she actually loves trees, and she's like, well, I 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.400 can do this. So I'm gonna get into this thing 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.000 and pretend how I like hunting. So she goes hunting. 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.599 She goes hunting six years ago. I got some details here. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.360 She goes hunting six years ago, gets the super into it, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.960 you know, and she's so statistic. She's so statistic that 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.320 she starts helping other people who want to get involved 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:04.640 in hunting. She become is a a hunting ed instructor, 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.040 which is like if you think about some shrewd ship right, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:12.359 because he's she's like Donny Brasco man. She's destoring it 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.400 from the inside. So she becomes the hunting ed instructor. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.679 And the play there is that you help other people 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.239 start hunting, right, and you make more and more hunters. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.640 And then she gets really smart and starts going into 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:28.480 schools to teach archery. And she goes to four h 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:34.360 to teach archery. Because imagine the elaborate, the elaborate play here, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:39.040 because you guys know General Patton was fighting for the Germans. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.920 I don't you know this, So that's like how this 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.039 kind of stuff works. And I get there's another dude 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.840 I start reading about, and I've emailed with a little 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.080 bit and I started getting suspicious because he's a hunting guide. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.640 So the first thing that goes off my head. This 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.600 guy Adam gall like hunts down in Colorado. He's got 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.920 a hunting guide business that specializes and taken It's called 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.440 Timber to Table Guide Service, where they specialize in taking 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:07.240 out clients who want to learn about hunting, butchering, cooking, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.240 ground up, full on blood on your hands ship right, 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:16.599 because that's how you win that war against hunting. It's 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.080 like it's just became so obvious. He gets all involved 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.159 in like a partnership with the Boone and Crockett Club 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.159 where they go to colleges to help college kids learn 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:31.800 about hunting and get involved in the conservation movement. Duh, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.320 you can see where it's going. I know. It's like, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.600 how did I not see that this is the end 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:41.080 of hunting? Connect the dots people? And then it gets bad. 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.719 The reason I bringing up to gets bad because it 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:46.679 turns out that the b h A back country hunters 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:51.960 and angers wounded up somehow my my brother and here's 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.480 the weird hear, It gets real weird because me and 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.000 my brother started trapping muskrats. Now it's ten to know 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:02.560 that he was like the dedication to know at that age, 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.800 he's like, here's how I'm gonna unraffle hunting as here's 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.360 how I'm gonna destroy American hunting and fishing. At at 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.920 nine whatever years of age he shot your first year 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.920 of the bow when you were twelve? How did you 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.480 know you were gonna I had to established my hunting 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.720 bona fides if I was gonna have any chance, So 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.000 to know, to have the clarity of mine that at 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.920 twelve years of age you knew you were going to 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.480 grow up and betray hunters and gun owners and to live. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.160 How old you know? You still haven't broke cover? He 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.440 still he still hasn't broke cover. And like you might 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.800 look at me like, okay, this, here's this guy, this elaborate, 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.520 lifelong ruse opportunity is a hardcore hunter, lives on wild 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.320 game meat wanners around the mountains by himself with Llamas. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.600 It's like he's so he's such a character actor and 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.880 plays the role so well that he plays it by 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:58.040 himself out in the damn mountains. It's like he's tricking. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.960 He's tricking, you know. Gray Jay's and to thinking he 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.800 likes to hunt, but there are there's people watching on 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.600 those ridgets, yeah, you know, and they get suspicious and 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.320 they come on. They're like, well, let's just see and 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.200 ensure enough. He comes behind and like, by god, he 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.000 does like the hunt. Uh. And here's like the little 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:21.280 kind of shrewd move that he does is uh near him. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.200 There's a there's a there's a federal agency that manages 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.320 his chunk of land right and this, and they got 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:32.040 a boat launch that cuts through this property. And a 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.000 guy comes in and vandalizes the area. And so the 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.120 guy in charge a manage in the land, not not 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.160 out of any kind of ruthlessness or not out of 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.679 being a bad guy, but it's just he hasn't make 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.880 a decision where he's gonna have to shut down the 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.720 boat launch because the vandalism problem. And so this is 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.960 where my brother springs the trap and destroys hunting and 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:56.080 fishing in America is he proposes this idea where why 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.480 don't I get with b h A, why don't I 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.800 get with bad country hunters and anglers? And we'll raise 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:06.440 up some money and buy a gate with a key 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.319 code on it so that when people do want to 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.480 launch their boat to go hunting, fish. They'll just get 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.280 a number and enter their number, and then we'll know 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.079 who's been there and the person in charge of the 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.040 administrates this land. It's like, well, you know what, that 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.720 seems like a pretty reasonable thing. I don't have the 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.400 budget for. He's like, I'll tell you what. I'll work 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.520 with pH A will raise the money to pay for 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.760 an electronic gate and the key code system. So they 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.679 do that, and now all these you know, people that 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.880 like the hunting fish can go do it. And that's 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:43.400 how you get them. It's like you change the key code. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:48.000 It's just the green decoit. It's just so insidious. Man. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.559 I was blind and stupid, but now I see the truth. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.000 I'm still gonna carry on a night like a normal show, 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.000 but I just don't want anyone to have any confusion 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:05.840 about what this group is actually about. Uh So Land 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.240 we're gonna do. We're gonna do a couple of things. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.600 Uh We're gonna cover some news and feedback. We're gonna 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.040 talk about other stuff that's not that. We're gonna um 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.959 play a game seeing through the Bullshit where you get 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.440 to win something really cool. There was a game I 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:26.360 wanted to play. Uh. Four of us are all staying 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:30.720 in the same house, and we have. We've been showering 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:35.600 with French lavender soap. I know because I was in 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.319 there and next what's in there? And I wanted to 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.560 play game where someone wears a blindfold and has to 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.320 identify the two people who aren't staying in that house. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.080 But we're not gonna I don't want to play that game. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.040 I thought about it. Uh, we're nenna have a talk 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.120 with a guy named Seth Trophy is here. Okay, we're 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.600 gonna talking to him. I gotta talk to him real bad. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.440 We're gonna do birthday giveaways. We've got other business to 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.440 take care of. But first we're gonna do interdut auctions, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.439 and I think that the first interruction I want to 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.120 do is is land. Can you tell us how bad 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.319 the b h A situation has gotten? Like the insidious plot? 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:12.640 Like how many people have you got sucked into the 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.800 insidious plot to destroy America? I mean, it's so bad. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.600 It's so bad. We got like people here right now. 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.680 That's terrible, and we got thirty six thousand across the country. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.080 It is horrible. It's getting bad. It's horrible. It's like 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.960 the Red scare Man every day. We're getting members every 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.840 single day. We have thirty thousand at the start of 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.480 the year and all of a sudden thirty six. It 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.920 sends shivers up my spine to think you got thirty 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:46.240 six thousand people out there, Uh, fighting for America's public lands. Freedom. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.840 We're fighting for freedom. Uh seriously give it, like like, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.680 tell people a little bit about what goes on here 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.280 and who's all here and otway. So this is the 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.920 biggest group of badass hunters in the country and angler 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:06.040 to come together, right and like the traditional rendezvous, they 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:07.920 come together once a year and they come together to 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.880 share stories, come together to have a lot of fun. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:15.440 They come together to learn how to infiltrate even better. Yeah. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.960 So basically we've been we've been here since, we've been 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:24.480 here since Tuesday. Many of us chapter training we've been doing. Uh, 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.400 we've been learning how to infiltrate even better. And then 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.840 we were today the little elk Calling contest outside. We 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.079 have a brue fest last night with like what four thousand, 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.680 five thousand people do. Now here's how bad it gets 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.720 is that Elkholm that's like a pied piper thing where 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:46.360 you lure children away. That's our sirens song. This is 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.360 how bad it. Guess last night we had our brue fest. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:56.000 We had a Democratic mayor, mayor beater introduce a Republican governor. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.319 And guess what they were agreeing on stuff. It's called 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:05.920 public lands. That's how good we're getting. You even got 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.680 the you even got the politicians to buy in. Man, 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.600 we got the politicians buy in. We're having a lot 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.120 of funds. That's what we're doing. Steve, No, dude, so 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.199 I got I'm gonna save Col's introduction for last. We 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.480 talk about something. Ben O'Brien from Hunting Collective. Hey, I'm 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:26.640 the man. I'm the man. We're only calling that th 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.880 HC from here on out. That's what I'm handing out 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:41.880 boys every week. It's green decoys. That's your new intro. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:58.360 My older brother Matt Ronella and the lovely laughing Eagle 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:07.080 jannest who tell us, and then uh Ryan Cal Ryan 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:12.839 old Cal Callahan. So here's a here's something we need 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.600 to do. Is as normally I would It's normally when 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.360 you go to a show, it's bad for him to 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.680 pull out your phone, But in this case it's perfectly 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.280 accepted to pull out your phone and Go to Google 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:31.920 Play or go to iTunes and download and subscribe to 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:37.560 Cal's new show, Cal's Weekend Review, which is your weekly 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:43.040 round up of ship you ought to know about. It's 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.800 a new show called Cal's We can review telling Cal 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.440 he's not kidding. Pull out your phones because I need 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:57.520 a job. Go to iTunes, go to Google Play, subscribe 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.400 and download Col's week in Review. You think of this 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:06.240 as your conservation. Cliff notes, Okay, you're gonna get everything 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.240 you need to know from last week and this week, 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.600 and you're gonna be able to regurgitate that stuff on demand. Yeah, 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.920 so when do you fake hunters are talking to real 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.480 hunters and you hit them with this ship, You're gonna 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.280 sound legit and they're gonna get They're just gonna be like, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:25.840 just take my gun, and then, uh, you should have it. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.000 You obviously know this world better than I do. When 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.400 you're done, and hold your phone up so we can 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:39.920 see that you've done it, checked your works. Cal's Weekend 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.640 Review weekly round up of everything you need to know 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.920 about and a lot of stuff, the things you might 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.120 even wish you didn't know about. Now now on the show, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.120 we're gonna get into some other stuff. On the show. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.360 We have a we have a little bit of a 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.480 habit of something will come up and then we kind 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.960 of beat it to death. Uh, and then eventually we've 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.920 beating it so to death that we eventually decided to 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.680 let it die. And there's a couple of those things 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.960 that I want to like touch on for the last 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.920 time and then we'll take our oath and not talk 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.120 about it anymore. Some of these are too funny. We 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.520 we we we had a we had a podcast where 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:20.160 we're talking about how excruciating it is. Two there's there's 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.800 a lot of Western hunters here, so when we're talking 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.160 about how excruciating it is to like you see a 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.800 dear way off. I thought you were gonna talk about 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:33.240 chap Ass. Oh no, we retired. We retired chap Ass. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.480 We see have come down to wait, we gotta bring 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:41.840 up cow has flip flop chap It's first first round 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.800 out of the gate. Man, it's not flip flop season 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.480 in Montana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm coming around though. It's okay. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:53.200 The two chap Ass kres uh In the end that 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:58.320 seems about the unanimous almost unanimous decision was um a 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:04.000 product called body Glide so you guys have covered this. Yeah, no, dude, 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.080 we covered it. Most people that rode in, like if 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.640 you're gonna tally it up. There's a product called body Glide. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.080 But one guy, uh and I've mentioned this three times now, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.720 suggested that he would once had it so bad he 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.040 took his sandwich apart and wedged a slice of bologney 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.159 between his buttets. Between his buttets is how bad it 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.280 got for him. But there's a consensus around products such 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.879 as body Glide. I had some firefighters just two hours 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.719 ago tell me about that they trust body glide. If 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.600 a firefighter can trust it, so can you. Ah. But 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.800 the thing we're talking about is we're talking about when 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.600 you're telling someone where a deer is and they're like, well, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.800 where is the deer? And you kind of have this 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.040 like and you do the you know when you see 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.360 that rock and then there's a tree. You know, when 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.680 you talk someone into it or talk someone onto it. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:56.480 And I was taught on a later show. I got 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.480 to talk about how a guy who's he does he's 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.480 j tax so he calls air strikes for a living 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.680 in war zones, and he's like, when you're calling air 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.120 strikes for a living from the ground and you're trying 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:15.000 to direct firepower from on from the heavens. I like 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:21.280 to a establish a unit of measurement, so I would say, Okay, 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.040 go to the skyline and you see that prominent spruce 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.520 tree at the highest point. Okay, everybody agrees on that 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.119 spruce tree, that spruce tree, the width of that or 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.439 the height of that spruce tree will now become a 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:37.440 unit of measurement. Go down five. And he says, that's 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.240 how you talk someone in on something out in the mountains. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.679 And I thought that was the final word. And then 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.080 we get an email from a pilot. The pilot says, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.360 I heard Mr Ronnella say he was going to take 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.720 the tip of using the quote unit of measure technique 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.440 from J Tach. Now, being a pilot from a squadron 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.679 that conducted close air support, this made my blood boiled. 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:08.679 I had a genuine emotional reaction to it. Nothing kills 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.719 tempo more in the close air support environment. When you 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.520 hear the J tech come over the net and say 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.600 the distance between X and Y will be used as 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.280 a unit of measure. The frustration that the air crew 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:27.560 have in the time after those words is enormous, so 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:32.520 understand that there is some contention about establishing unit of measure. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.640 Another thing I want to touch on it we talked about. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.320 We spent a lot of time. Say something. If you've 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:38.879 heard of us talk about the guy that got in 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.160 trouble for killing the four under pound tuna and dumping 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.200 into woods. Okay, that's good because the word gets out 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.360 in the arresting officer listens to our description of what happened, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.560 and and right then to say, you guys did a 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.400 great job explaining what happened. Here's a couple of fun 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:00.159 details for you that you don't know about. One, the 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.399 guy that caught the tune of that he sort to 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.320 back up for him to be sharing this information. I 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.639 don't know he sent it to me a I guess 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.400 blue fin tuna season ends in Massachusetts and the guy 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.040 catches a tune and boats at which is illegal, and 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.359 then he's got a plan to sell the tuna, but 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.840 instead drags the tunea it gets gets winded there after 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.000 him or onto him and drags a tune out in 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.320 the woods and gets a fifteen thousand dollar fine for 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.280 killing the tuna out of season. And then for fun, 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.959 they add on dump fines for dumping ship in the woods, 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.520 And the best detail that comes out of it is 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.879 that when he dragged it away, he actually tied it 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:49.120 to his girlfriend's car. And it's like, there's a there's 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.480 a rule in comedy about specificity and tying a tune 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:58.040 into your car and dragging it away. It's funny, but 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.719 it's not as funny it's tying a tune into your 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:05.440 girlfriend's car and dragging it away. It's just like it 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.639 just as a rule of comedy. But the guy, this 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.159 guy is a glutton for punishment, so he gets in 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.280 all this trouble. But he gets out. He's on frobation, 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.439 and what does he do on probation. He's go He 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:18.600 goes out to get vengeance on people who testified against him. 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.359 So he goes to one of them and steals a 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.680 bunch of his lobster pots and dumps him in the 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:29.639 woods apparently. So now he's in jail for tampering with 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:33.760 lobster gear and his second defense of illegal dumping, the 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:39.120 first being a tuna. I asked Matt too. I asked 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.119 Matt earlier if he could work up a moral to 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:44.320 the story, and he really couldn't know. I just thought 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.960 it was you can't compete with the truth on this. 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.040 I mean he couldn't. It's the morals so clear that 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.240 you can't make up a moral because it's already just 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:58.120 so clear. What do you tell the girlfriend bagging a minute, 0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.399 gonna borrow your car? No, nothing's wrong with mine. No, 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.399 that's not a four d pound tuna tied to the 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.679 back of the car. Another thing, we recently shared a 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.440 story and we recently shared an old story about a 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.359 Wyoming man who caught a lake trout with a dude's 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:22.359 finger in it. This happened in Idaho too. It's a 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.680 better story because the characters in the story are better. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.960 Just back of two thousand twelve on Priests Lake, freest Lake, Idaho. 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.520 There's a wake boarder who notices a curla queue form 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:33.000 in the line. And what does he do but try 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.160 to straighten the curlaque out as the boat takes off. 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:39.399 There they all go, all four of them. Then some 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.920 dudes are fishing. One of these dudes names is Calvin, 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.480 and Calvin and his body catch four pound trout and 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.639 they're cleaning and they sit there's something in the stomach 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.560 and they were using crayfish, and they think, oh, it 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:55.440 must be a crayfish. It's not. Calvin's body catches a 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.280 fish for Calvin. Calvin has all the good quotes. One 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:02.160 of his quotes is it was as fresh as if 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:08.480 it was on my finger. Then he goes in the 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.560 story I read, he goes on to say, I've caught 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.639 a zillion fish, but never one with a human finger. 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:20.639 And he points out that they felt so Apparently lucky 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.960 would be the word that they went out and bought 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:28.240 lottery tickets that day. There must be something about that 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:32.360 shape that lake Trout really liked. Yeah, because Flathead Lake 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:38.360 they fish for him with Johnsonville Brott's Superficially, after read 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.600 about Yeah, after reading about all these fingers and Trout, 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.199 if I saw Johnsonville Brotten the fish, I would like 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.440 assume it. At the time the article I was looking 0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:49.600 at was written, there was a lot of uncertainty swirling 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:53.199 around this whole thing. Because the guy they they fingerprint 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.960 the finger they turned they know Joe. They turned the 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:58.760 fish into the cops, and the cops pulled the finger 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.800 out and fingerprinted and run through their database and it 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.440 turns up the dude's name. I don't know why he'd 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.320 been fingerprinted, but they a belongs to this guy. They 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.960 go find him. Sure enough, it's his finger. He says 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:15.679 he initially doesn't want it back, but then he starts 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:19.800 to rethink it. Meanwhile, the police learned that he doesn't 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.880 allow it back, but they keep it in their evidence 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.680 freezer in case he changes his mind. At the time 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.119 the article is written, the man who owns the finger 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.040 had called his doctor to ask his opinion, but was 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:35.000 awaiting a call back, so they caught that. They call 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:37.880 these people in this like brief moment of uncertainty, which 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.040 makes the news story more interesting. So here's my question. 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.480 Is it his finger? That's why I got the email? 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:53.119 Is it his finger? That's the reason someone brought these 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:56.280 finger stories to my attention because we were talking too 0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:01.560 much about Steve Kendrolls. Dear An, there's a deer. Tell 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.520 my god, we're talking about this too many times. There's 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:06.800 a guy that shot a buck that was missing a time. 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.200