1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: This is a me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: folk bitten, and in my case, underwear listening. Un don't 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: me to eat podcast. You can't predict that anything. All right, everybody, 4 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: thanks for coming out. Ben's the man. I'm the man. Yeah. 5 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: I figured that was either the start or the end 6 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: of my career. Yeah. What, Oh, go ahead, I want 7 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: to go, you know, I want to get startybody's clearing 8 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: the air. It um. I'm onto everyone here. I know 9 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: the truth. Man. You just tree hugging, rock kissing green decoys. 10 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: There's some of you that might be here and you 11 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: don't know what you are. I'm gonna tell you about 12 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: what you are and how I've learned to see through it. First, 13 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: I want to make sure everyone's clear on what you are. Ben, 14 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: you want to take a stab at it? Yeah? What 15 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: a b h a bad country hunters and anglers is 16 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: green decoys. You're a bunch of environmentalists, let snobs, liberals, liberals, 17 00:01:51,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: liberals masquerading as sportsman. Shame on you. Yeah, you don't 18 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: need to add tum about what they are actors. They 19 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: act like they like guns, they act like they like 20 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: to hunt, act like they like to kill fish. They 21 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: act like they just want to be left alone to hunt. 22 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: That's right, but what's the truth. They're like a trojan horse. 23 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: They're sneaking into the far right to eventually take down 24 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: all hunting screen. I've seen the website. When I first 25 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: saw it, him like, dude, how did I not see it? Man? 26 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: I felt so naive. It was like because I always 27 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: saw I was looking at it. I was like, h A, 28 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, I've been supporting VHA for a long time, 29 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: and I always saw. I was like, it seemed to 30 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: me like the hardest hitting hunting fishing dudes I knew about. 31 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: And I used to look at a bit man, uh 32 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: if I had to think, like, if you were going 33 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: to take a membership and tally up hours spent per 34 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: year out in the woods or in the mountains or 35 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: in the swamps, there's no conservation group that would log 36 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: the hours spent a field per member that that this 37 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: one does. That was when I was stupid and naive. 38 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: But then I started thinking about it, looking at it 39 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: more carefully, and I got looking at some of the members, 40 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, looking at what they do. Got the reading 41 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: about this person, she might even be here. Cindy states. 42 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Don't don't know. You gotta know the truth, don't. You 43 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: don't know the truth about her. You don't know the 44 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: truth about stops here, Cindy. She's a first off certified arborist. 45 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: When I hear arborist, I know we're already talking about 46 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: in the elitist we're talking about when I hear arborrests. 47 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, tree hugger were literally out hugging trees. You 48 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: used to be an arbors cor That's why I know 49 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: that world man, So i'd I was like, okay, you know, 50 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: maybe there's something to this green decoy business. Someone out 51 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: running chainsaws. And then uh, you know, I started to 52 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: smell a fish. Turns out she got to she gets 53 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: she started to pretend. I got a question. Do you 54 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: think like she carries a whole bunch of Kleenex? Because 55 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: when she's up in that tree cutting those limbs, she 56 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: there must be tears with every single thing. How she 57 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: started to hone her ability to live a lie. She's like, 58 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: she's she started to infil like to infiltrate and learn 59 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: how to live a lie. So she's like cutting trees, 60 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: but she actually loves trees, and she's like, well, I 61 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: can do this. So I'm gonna get into this thing 62 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and pretend how I like hunting. So she goes hunting. 63 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: She goes hunting six years ago. I got some details here. 64 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: She goes hunting six years ago, gets the super into it, 65 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, and she's so statistic. She's so statistic that 66 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: she starts helping other people who want to get involved 67 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: in hunting. She become is a a hunting ed instructor, 68 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: which is like if you think about some shrewd ship right, 69 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: because he's she's like Donny Brasco man. She's destoring it 70 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: from the inside. So she becomes the hunting ed instructor. 71 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: And the play there is that you help other people 72 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: start hunting, right, and you make more and more hunters. 73 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: And then she gets really smart and starts going into 74 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: schools to teach archery. And she goes to four h 75 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: to teach archery. Because imagine the elaborate, the elaborate play here, 76 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: because you guys know General Patton was fighting for the Germans. 77 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't you know this, So that's like how this 78 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: kind of stuff works. And I get there's another dude 79 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I start reading about, and I've emailed with a little 80 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: bit and I started getting suspicious because he's a hunting guide. 81 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: So the first thing that goes off my head. This 82 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: guy Adam gall like hunts down in Colorado. He's got 83 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: a hunting guide business that specializes and taken It's called 84 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Timber to Table Guide Service, where they specialize in taking 85 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: out clients who want to learn about hunting, butchering, cooking, 86 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: ground up, full on blood on your hands ship right, 87 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: because that's how you win that war against hunting. It's 88 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: like it's just became so obvious. He gets all involved 89 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: in like a partnership with the Boone and Crockett Club 90 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: where they go to colleges to help college kids learn 91 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: about hunting and get involved in the conservation movement. Duh, 92 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: you can see where it's going. I know. It's like, 93 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: how did I not see that this is the end 94 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: of hunting? Connect the dots people? And then it gets bad. 95 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: The reason I bringing up to gets bad because it 96 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: turns out that the b h A back country hunters 97 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: and angers wounded up somehow my my brother and here's 98 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: the weird hear, It gets real weird because me and 99 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: my brother started trapping muskrats. Now it's ten to know 100 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: that he was like the dedication to know at that age, 101 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: he's like, here's how I'm gonna unraffle hunting as here's 102 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: how I'm gonna destroy American hunting and fishing. At at 103 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: nine whatever years of age he shot your first year 104 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: of the bow when you were twelve? How did you 105 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: know you were gonna I had to established my hunting 106 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: bona fides if I was gonna have any chance, So 107 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: to know, to have the clarity of mine that at 108 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: twelve years of age you knew you were going to 109 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: grow up and betray hunters and gun owners and to live. 110 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: How old you know? You still haven't broke cover? He 111 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: still he still hasn't broke cover. And like you might 112 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: look at me like, okay, this, here's this guy, this elaborate, 113 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: lifelong ruse opportunity is a hardcore hunter, lives on wild 114 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: game meat wanners around the mountains by himself with Llamas. 115 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: It's like he's so he's such a character actor and 116 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: plays the role so well that he plays it by 117 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: himself out in the damn mountains. It's like he's tricking. 118 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: He's tricking, you know. Gray Jay's and to thinking he 119 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: likes to hunt, but there are there's people watching on 120 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: those ridgets, yeah, you know, and they get suspicious and 121 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: they come on. They're like, well, let's just see and 122 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: ensure enough. He comes behind and like, by god, he 123 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: does like the hunt. Uh. And here's like the little 124 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: kind of shrewd move that he does is uh near him. 125 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: There's a there's a there's a federal agency that manages 126 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: his chunk of land right and this, and they got 127 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: a boat launch that cuts through this property. And a 128 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: guy comes in and vandalizes the area. And so the 129 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: guy in charge a manage in the land, not not 130 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: out of any kind of ruthlessness or not out of 131 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: being a bad guy, but it's just he hasn't make 132 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: a decision where he's gonna have to shut down the 133 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: boat launch because the vandalism problem. And so this is 134 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: where my brother springs the trap and destroys hunting and 135 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: fishing in America is he proposes this idea where why 136 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: don't I get with b h A, why don't I 137 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: get with bad country hunters and anglers? And we'll raise 138 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: up some money and buy a gate with a key 139 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: code on it so that when people do want to 140 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: launch their boat to go hunting, fish. They'll just get 141 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: a number and enter their number, and then we'll know 142 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: who's been there and the person in charge of the 143 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: administrates this land. It's like, well, you know what, that 144 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: seems like a pretty reasonable thing. I don't have the 145 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: budget for. He's like, I'll tell you what. I'll work 146 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: with pH A will raise the money to pay for 147 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: an electronic gate and the key code system. So they 148 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: do that, and now all these you know, people that 149 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: like the hunting fish can go do it. And that's 150 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: how you get them. It's like you change the key code. 151 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: It's just the green decoit. It's just so insidious. Man. 152 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: I was blind and stupid, but now I see the truth. 153 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna carry on a night like a normal show, 154 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: but I just don't want anyone to have any confusion 155 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: about what this group is actually about. Uh So Land 156 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna do a couple of things. 157 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Uh We're gonna cover some news and feedback. We're gonna 158 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: talk about other stuff that's not that. We're gonna um 159 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: play a game seeing through the Bullshit where you get 160 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: to win something really cool. There was a game I 161 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: wanted to play. Uh. Four of us are all staying 162 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: in the same house, and we have. We've been showering 163 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: with French lavender soap. I know because I was in 164 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: there and next what's in there? And I wanted to 165 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: play game where someone wears a blindfold and has to 166 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: identify the two people who aren't staying in that house. 167 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: But we're not gonna I don't want to play that game. 168 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: I thought about it. Uh, we're nenna have a talk 169 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: with a guy named Seth Trophy is here. Okay, we're 170 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna talking to him. I gotta talk to him real bad. 171 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna do birthday giveaways. We've got other business to 172 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: take care of. But first we're gonna do interdut auctions, 173 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: and I think that the first interruction I want to 174 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: do is is land. Can you tell us how bad 175 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: the b h A situation has gotten? Like the insidious plot? 176 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: Like how many people have you got sucked into the 177 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: insidious plot to destroy America? I mean, it's so bad. 178 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: It's so bad. We got like people here right now. 179 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: That's terrible, and we got thirty six thousand across the country. 180 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: It is horrible. It's getting bad. It's horrible. It's like 181 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: the Red scare Man every day. We're getting members every 182 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: single day. We have thirty thousand at the start of 183 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: the year and all of a sudden thirty six. It 184 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: sends shivers up my spine to think you got thirty 185 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: six thousand people out there, Uh, fighting for America's public lands. Freedom. 186 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: We're fighting for freedom. Uh seriously give it, like like, 187 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: tell people a little bit about what goes on here 188 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: and who's all here and otway. So this is the 189 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: biggest group of badass hunters in the country and angler 190 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: to come together, right and like the traditional rendezvous, they 191 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: come together once a year and they come together to 192 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: share stories, come together to have a lot of fun. 193 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: They come together to learn how to infiltrate even better. Yeah. 194 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: So basically we've been we've been here since, we've been 195 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: here since Tuesday. Many of us chapter training we've been doing. Uh, 196 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: we've been learning how to infiltrate even better. And then 197 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: we were today the little elk Calling contest outside. We 198 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: have a brue fest last night with like what four thousand, 199 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: five thousand people do. Now here's how bad it gets 200 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: is that Elkholm that's like a pied piper thing where 201 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: you lure children away. That's our sirens song. This is 202 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: how bad it. Guess last night we had our brue fest. 203 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: We had a Democratic mayor, mayor beater introduce a Republican governor. 204 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: And guess what they were agreeing on stuff. It's called 205 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: public lands. That's how good we're getting. You even got 206 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: the you even got the politicians to buy in. Man, 207 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: we got the politicians buy in. We're having a lot 208 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: of funds. That's what we're doing. Steve, No, dude, so 209 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: I got I'm gonna save Col's introduction for last. We 210 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: talk about something. Ben O'Brien from Hunting Collective. Hey, I'm 211 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: the man. I'm the man. We're only calling that th 212 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: HC from here on out. That's what I'm handing out 213 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: boys every week. It's green decoys. That's your new intro. 214 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: My older brother Matt Ronella and the lovely laughing Eagle 215 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: jannest who tell us, and then uh Ryan Cal Ryan 216 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: old Cal Callahan. So here's a here's something we need 217 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: to do. Is as normally I would It's normally when 218 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: you go to a show, it's bad for him to 219 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: pull out your phone, But in this case it's perfectly 220 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: accepted to pull out your phone and Go to Google 221 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: Play or go to iTunes and download and subscribe to 222 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: Cal's new show, Cal's Weekend Review, which is your weekly 223 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: round up of ship you ought to know about. It's 224 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: a new show called Cal's We can review telling Cal 225 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: he's not kidding. Pull out your phones because I need 226 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: a job. Go to iTunes, go to Google Play, subscribe 227 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: and download Col's week in Review. You think of this 228 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: as your conservation. Cliff notes, Okay, you're gonna get everything 229 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: you need to know from last week and this week, 230 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to regurgitate that stuff on demand. Yeah, 231 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: so when do you fake hunters are talking to real 232 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: hunters and you hit them with this ship, You're gonna 233 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: sound legit and they're gonna get They're just gonna be like, 234 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: just take my gun, and then, uh, you should have it. 235 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: You obviously know this world better than I do. When 236 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: you're done, and hold your phone up so we can 237 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: see that you've done it, checked your works. Cal's Weekend 238 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Review weekly round up of everything you need to know 239 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: about and a lot of stuff, the things you might 240 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: even wish you didn't know about. Now now on the show, 241 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some other stuff. On the show. 242 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: We have a we have a little bit of a 243 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: habit of something will come up and then we kind 244 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: of beat it to death. Uh, and then eventually we've 245 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: beating it so to death that we eventually decided to 246 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: let it die. And there's a couple of those things 247 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: that I want to like touch on for the last 248 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: time and then we'll take our oath and not talk 249 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: about it anymore. Some of these are too funny. We 250 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: we we we had a we had a podcast where 251 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about how excruciating it is. Two there's there's 252 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Western hunters here, so when we're talking 253 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: about how excruciating it is to like you see a 254 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: dear way off. I thought you were gonna talk about 255 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: chap Ass. Oh no, we retired. We retired chap Ass. 256 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: We see have come down to wait, we gotta bring 257 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: up cow has flip flop chap It's first first round 258 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: out of the gate. Man, it's not flip flop season 259 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: in Montana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm coming around though. It's okay. 260 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: The two chap Ass kres uh In the end that 261 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: seems about the unanimous almost unanimous decision was um a 262 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: product called body Glide so you guys have covered this. Yeah, no, dude, 263 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: we covered it. Most people that rode in, like if 264 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna tally it up. There's a product called body Glide. 265 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: But one guy, uh and I've mentioned this three times now, 266 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: suggested that he would once had it so bad he 267 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: took his sandwich apart and wedged a slice of bologney 268 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: between his buttets. Between his buttets is how bad it 269 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: got for him. But there's a consensus around products such 270 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: as body Glide. I had some firefighters just two hours 271 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: ago tell me about that they trust body glide. If 272 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: a firefighter can trust it, so can you. Ah. But 273 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: the thing we're talking about is we're talking about when 274 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: you're telling someone where a deer is and they're like, well, 275 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: where is the deer? And you kind of have this 276 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: like and you do the you know when you see 277 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: that rock and then there's a tree. You know, when 278 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: you talk someone into it or talk someone onto it. 279 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: And I was taught on a later show. I got 280 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: to talk about how a guy who's he does he's 281 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: j tax so he calls air strikes for a living 282 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: in war zones, and he's like, when you're calling air 283 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: strikes for a living from the ground and you're trying 284 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: to direct firepower from on from the heavens. I like 285 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: to a establish a unit of measurement, so I would say, Okay, 286 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: go to the skyline and you see that prominent spruce 287 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: tree at the highest point. Okay, everybody agrees on that 288 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: spruce tree, that spruce tree, the width of that or 289 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: the height of that spruce tree will now become a 290 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: unit of measurement. Go down five. And he says, that's 291 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: how you talk someone in on something out in the mountains. 292 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: And I thought that was the final word. And then 293 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: we get an email from a pilot. The pilot says, 294 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: I heard Mr Ronnella say he was going to take 295 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: the tip of using the quote unit of measure technique 296 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: from J Tach. Now, being a pilot from a squadron 297 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: that conducted close air support, this made my blood boiled. 298 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: I had a genuine emotional reaction to it. Nothing kills 299 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: tempo more in the close air support environment. When you 300 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: hear the J tech come over the net and say 301 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: the distance between X and Y will be used as 302 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: a unit of measure. The frustration that the air crew 303 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: have in the time after those words is enormous, so 304 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: understand that there is some contention about establishing unit of measure. 305 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: Another thing I want to touch on it we talked about. 306 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time. Say something. If you've 307 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: heard of us talk about the guy that got in 308 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: trouble for killing the four under pound tuna and dumping 309 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: into woods. Okay, that's good because the word gets out 310 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: in the arresting officer listens to our description of what happened, 311 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: and and right then to say, you guys did a 312 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: great job explaining what happened. Here's a couple of fun 313 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: details for you that you don't know about. One, the 314 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: guy that caught the tune of that he sort to 315 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: back up for him to be sharing this information. I 316 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: don't know he sent it to me a I guess 317 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: blue fin tuna season ends in Massachusetts and the guy 318 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: catches a tune and boats at which is illegal, and 319 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: then he's got a plan to sell the tuna, but 320 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: instead drags the tunea it gets gets winded there after 321 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: him or onto him and drags a tune out in 322 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: the woods and gets a fifteen thousand dollar fine for 323 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: killing the tuna out of season. And then for fun, 324 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: they add on dump fines for dumping ship in the woods, 325 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: And the best detail that comes out of it is 326 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: that when he dragged it away, he actually tied it 327 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: to his girlfriend's car. And it's like, there's a there's 328 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: a rule in comedy about specificity and tying a tune 329 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: into your car and dragging it away. It's funny, but 330 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: it's not as funny it's tying a tune into your 331 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: girlfriend's car and dragging it away. It's just like it 332 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: just as a rule of comedy. But the guy, this 333 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: guy is a glutton for punishment, so he gets in 334 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: all this trouble. But he gets out. He's on frobation, 335 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: and what does he do on probation. He's go He 336 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: goes out to get vengeance on people who testified against him. 337 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: So he goes to one of them and steals a 338 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: bunch of his lobster pots and dumps him in the 339 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: woods apparently. So now he's in jail for tampering with 340 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: lobster gear and his second defense of illegal dumping, the 341 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: first being a tuna. I asked Matt too. I asked 342 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: Matt earlier if he could work up a moral to 343 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: the story, and he really couldn't know. I just thought 344 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: it was you can't compete with the truth on this. 345 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean he couldn't. It's the morals so clear that 346 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: you can't make up a moral because it's already just 347 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: so clear. What do you tell the girlfriend bagging a minute, 348 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: gonna borrow your car? No, nothing's wrong with mine. No, 349 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: that's not a four d pound tuna tied to the 350 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: back of the car. Another thing, we recently shared a 351 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: story and we recently shared an old story about a 352 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: Wyoming man who caught a lake trout with a dude's 353 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: finger in it. This happened in Idaho too. It's a 354 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: better story because the characters in the story are better. 355 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Just back of two thousand twelve on Priests Lake, freest Lake, Idaho. 356 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: There's a wake boarder who notices a curla queue form 357 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: in the line. And what does he do but try 358 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: to straighten the curlaque out as the boat takes off. 359 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: There they all go, all four of them. Then some 360 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: dudes are fishing. One of these dudes names is Calvin, 361 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: and Calvin and his body catch four pound trout and 362 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: they're cleaning and they sit there's something in the stomach 363 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: and they were using crayfish, and they think, oh, it 364 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: must be a crayfish. It's not. Calvin's body catches a 365 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: fish for Calvin. Calvin has all the good quotes. One 366 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: of his quotes is it was as fresh as if 367 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: it was on my finger. Then he goes in the 368 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: story I read, he goes on to say, I've caught 369 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: a zillion fish, but never one with a human finger. 370 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: And he points out that they felt so Apparently lucky 371 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: would be the word that they went out and bought 372 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: lottery tickets that day. There must be something about that 373 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: shape that lake Trout really liked. Yeah, because Flathead Lake 374 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: they fish for him with Johnsonville Brott's Superficially, after read 375 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: about Yeah, after reading about all these fingers and Trout, 376 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: if I saw Johnsonville Brotten the fish, I would like 377 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: assume it. At the time the article I was looking 378 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: at was written, there was a lot of uncertainty swirling 379 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: around this whole thing. Because the guy they they fingerprint 380 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: the finger they turned they know Joe. They turned the 381 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: fish into the cops, and the cops pulled the finger 382 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: out and fingerprinted and run through their database and it 383 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: turns up the dude's name. I don't know why he'd 384 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: been fingerprinted, but they a belongs to this guy. They 385 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: go find him. Sure enough, it's his finger. He says 386 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: he initially doesn't want it back, but then he starts 387 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: to rethink it. Meanwhile, the police learned that he doesn't 388 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: allow it back, but they keep it in their evidence 389 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: freezer in case he changes his mind. At the time 390 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: the article is written, the man who owns the finger 391 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: had called his doctor to ask his opinion, but was 392 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: awaiting a call back, so they caught that. They call 393 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: these people in this like brief moment of uncertainty, which 394 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: makes the news story more interesting. So here's my question. 395 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: Is it his finger? That's why I got the email? 396 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: Is it his finger? That's the reason someone brought these 397 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: finger stories to my attention because we were talking too 398 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: much about Steve Kendrolls. Dear An, there's a deer. Tell 399 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: my god, we're talking about this too many times. There's 400 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: a guy that shot a buck that was missing a time. 401 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: His body shot a buck and the time is stuck 402 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: in it. So the body kept the time, We ridiculed 403 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: the body, and the buddy gave the time back to Steve's. 404 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: Now Steve has the head and the time, and he says, 405 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: if that's justice, whose finger is the fish carrying around? 406 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Does the guy with the fish you know, is he 407 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: like screw you as my finger? It's like my fish. 408 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: If you caught a fish that had a crayfish in it, 409 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: you don't go find who owned the crayfish and it's 410 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: not wildlife. You can sell it to him. They give him, 411 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: give him the finger. Jokes are just easy to write 412 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: the finger. Your wife might be glad we found that. 413 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: I can only imagine. Uh, that's not what I meant. 414 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: I think it was taking out of context. Uh, speaking 415 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: of that idahole story, this is something that came into us. 416 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: This is we're breaking this story an ambulance. A guy 417 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: who he works on a NAMA I don't know what exactly, 418 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: doesn't name us up in Polatello. This is a recent 419 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: it was like an Idaho man breaking news here on 420 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Meteor podcast. They get a call to brothers gotten a 421 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: big fight on New Year's Eve and apparently, like according 422 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: to witnesses, as he learns the story, during the fight, 423 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: one of them goes up like he's gonna kiss the 424 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: other one. One of the brothers. It's somehow I don't 425 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: want to get too much detail because it's a little 426 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: bit hazy and email. But it just so happens that 427 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: one of the brothers bites off the tongue of the 428 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: other brother, and the brother that bites it off spits 429 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: it onto the ground. The police come out, the ambulances 430 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: come out. Everybody's going off to the hospital. They go 431 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: in to recover the tongue and a cat ate the tongues. 432 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: This is the first hand report out of Polkatello. Ah 433 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: can I say like he gave him the tongue and 434 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: we just move on his tongue jokes, his tongue jokes. 435 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I will not make um man. I'm just the man 436 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: wrote in to talk about it. H quick hit from Matt. 437 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: You don't remember growing up how there's a type of 438 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: fence that we call a cyclone fence. That's that word 439 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: is not widely used. They call him other stuff like 440 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: what link We got taught in the other day about 441 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: how I heard another person used cyclone fence and I 442 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: was like, interesting that you just said cyclone fence. The 443 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: guy from Louisa, Louisiana road, He goes, I never heard 444 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: the word cyclone fence. But what we call a chain 445 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: link fence. Chain link fence is a hurricane fence, my 446 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: guests being that someone had one in a hurricane came 447 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: and it was still there, and he names it that, 448 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: and he said, when a Cajun gets wind of something 449 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: that can still be standing after a hurricane, it moves 450 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: to the top of the list of ship he wants 451 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: to buy it. So he feels that that's how it 452 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: achieved that name. Uh. We also had a recent conversation. 453 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 1: We talked about the developing offensiveness of terms like sportsmen, fishermen, 454 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: what else we have outdoorsmen, and struggling for a gender 455 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: neutral term. And a guy wrote into question that I 456 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: haven't even begun to grapple with. And it's a really 457 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: interesting point. I'm not I'm just gonna say it and 458 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna comment on it because I haven't even 459 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: untangled in my head. But he spells out for words sportsmen, fishermen, 460 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: outdoors men. Woman, He's like, I don't get it. Uh, Okay, 461 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: Like it's good, I haven't thought of Like what I 462 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: haven't I don't know yet. A Canadian woman named Chloe 463 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: came down to the US UH to visit and there's 464 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of turkeys hanging around and how she's renting, 465 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: and she was thinking about how we're always talking about 466 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: things that will make turkey's gobble, and she walked over 467 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: on the porch of the house she's renting and rang 468 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: a dinner bell and they gobbled, and the irony of 469 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: that was not lost on her. So add that to 470 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: the list dinner bells bring him running. A guy wrote in, 471 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: we made a shirt that has all the things that 472 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: will make a turkey shot gobble on it. Some of 473 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: the things sonic booms, the more interesting sounds will make 474 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: a turkey shot gobble. And a guy wrote in a 475 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: complain about the shirt, saying it was like a graphic 476 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: grip and grin photo because it says it makes it 477 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: seem that that turkey hunting is so easy that people 478 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: will think that turkey hunting is bad and they'll turn 479 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: against turkey hunting. But there's a big difference between the 480 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: number of turkeys you hear gobble and the number of 481 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: turkeys you here that you shoot. It would be like 482 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: how many people you can get to say hi to 483 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: you and how many people have sex with you are 484 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: like really different. Yeah, that's how you destroy turkey hunting? Um? 485 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: What else? Oh? A couple more newsy things. Speaking of turkeys, 486 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: a couple of guys wrote in about, uh, what is 487 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: happening when turkeys spit and drum? Johnny anyone? Because I 488 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: was wrong about this? I was, no, I was. I 489 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: actually didn't. I didn't know till you told me. And 490 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: it's funny that we also got emails about it. Do 491 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, Matt what the noises? Well, honestly I know now, 492 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: but I'm asking if you know, I'll take a crack 493 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: at it. But this could be completely wrong. I thought 494 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: the spit was actually a spit like him going yep 495 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: and the drums when he's fuffing up his feathers. Not 496 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: correct on either front. No, first one. First of one, 497 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: you know how hot it wasn't that suit suit man? 498 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: So what you guys to know that it was Texas? 499 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: It was hot, that's where you were dusting, right. I 500 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: think someone that wrote in is here tonight that wrote 501 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: him to ask this question. He he wanted us to 502 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: do our best spitting drum, which is my favorite thing 503 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: to do. But Yanni explain, that's how neutral. I don't 504 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: even read. Man. It was a she that wrote in 505 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: about um, what's going on there? Tell him spitting and drummond, 506 00:31:54,120 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: it's all it's it's a vocalization. Is a vocalization? Oh? 507 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: Who knew? A person wrote into Ask and they said 508 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: they just started turkey hunting, and they said, when I'm 509 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: close to a turkey, I don't understand, but I swear 510 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm hearing low thunder. Oh. A couple of years ago, 511 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: I tracked the turkey through the woods for a half 512 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: hour and shot him just based on that sound. That 513 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: that was a gross basterdization of what he was. It's yeah, 514 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: but he must be fanning out when he's doing that, 515 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: because you know it's always yeah, But he's not. He's 516 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: just rubbing his wings on the ground, rubbing wings on 517 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: the ground, which you can hear sometimes. Yeah, you can 518 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: hear those wings dragon. You hear that a lot. Hey, 519 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: you guys, this is Is it all right? If I 520 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: put it a little aside in here. So my turkey 521 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: season hasn't been going great like I've got to, but 522 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: I had. I was. I allowed hubrisk going into it. 523 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna try to get five Can you explain hubris? 524 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: Like false confidence? You know? But I think that it's 525 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: more than that, right a little. My cheese isn't based 526 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: on incomplete knowledge of the situation, like you're just ignorant 527 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: of But I think at all, in in Greek, in 528 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Greek tragedy, I think it's your hubris that leads to 529 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: your downfall. Oh we're gonta have five because I was 530 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: so cocky. But anyway, so I'd like to add that 531 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: it's like a critical element of turkey hunting, I think. 532 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: But if you don't have some huge during your hunt, 533 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be turkey hunting. Do you know how to experience? Then? 534 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: I had? I had it the other morning. This is 535 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: a major aside on my side. But when I had 536 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: just slipped in there and I'd been there for five 537 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: minutes in the dark, and my gun was set up 538 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: right right, knew he was gonna fly down, and I'm 539 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: already thinking about the text and the Instagram story, got it. 540 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: And then about two hours later, I'm just you know, 541 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: red faced and just wanting to dig a hole and 542 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: called out into and bury myself. That's turkey hunting. But 543 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: go on, I shot the king. Did you care about this? 544 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: You saw it? This dude had three strands and his left, 545 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: and his beard and the rest of them are all 546 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: like it's like he had a mohawk or something. They're 547 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: all shaved off, like I don't know if you got 548 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: like it burned on the tank heater last winter or 549 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: like just fighting. I watched him for an hour straight. 550 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: He never unpuffed, not once, and uh, he was immune 551 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: to my seduction. And he's out in the middle of 552 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: antelope country, like a quarter mile from the nearest tree. 553 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: So I was able to doing two which patch of 554 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: trees he was going to go to. And when he 555 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: came into roost, he had four or five hands. He 556 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: had three gobblers with him. He didn't give a ship. 557 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: There's like his little A lot of gobblers are get 558 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: like defensive and stuff. Yeah, hearing boys, man, little wise guys. 559 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: It's sent him off for corn, you know. And I 560 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: freaking whack him. And then I whacked one of his buddies. 561 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: Can you do when you talk? I was suggest like 562 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: a like a more robust report. I don't want to 563 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: overstate it, you know, um, but that dude, I opened 564 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: both those birds up. His little buddy was plugged with 565 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: green feed. He was completely empty. And this was like 566 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: when he's going into roost for the night. He's going 567 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: in empty stomach because all he cares about it lots 568 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: like just lock strut, lock strut all day long, never 569 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: a bite to eat. This thing has spurs on it 570 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna I promise to Steve's daughter Rosy, 571 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: but I'm kind of reconsidering because i'd kind of like 572 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: to six year old child. I kinda yeah, it gets sicker. 573 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: I I was fancy about gluing him to the end 574 00:36:53,560 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: of like popsicle sticks and then flicking people with him elbow. 575 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: You know, Land, you got anything you need to add there? 576 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: What am I gonna add to? Speaking for all turkeys. 577 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: We've we've been talking a lot. You're good, Matt, Yeah, 578 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: sorry about that. No, no, no, it was a great 579 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: quick side point. It's best thing to happen. Um We've 580 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: been talking a lot about cat human mountain lion human 581 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: cat human conflicts, and then there's even an art like 582 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: there's an ABC News article about the increase in cat 583 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: human conflicts. Um. Now, if you go to ABC News 584 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: for wildlife reporting, uh, it's like going to Michael Moore's 585 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: website for gun reviews. But uh, uh, big story on 586 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: cat human conflicts, and it goes into this deep history 587 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: of how we came to have like why do we 588 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: have these these burgening, like growing populations mountain lions expanding 589 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: in the new train all the time and more and 590 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: more mountain lions. And the story starts out on a 591 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: kind of a like a factual note where it says that, 592 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: you know, in the forties and fifties, we were running 593 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: these bounty programs from mountainlins and paying people year round 594 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: to kill mountainlins. And then we curtailed those systems, started 595 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: regulating mountain lions as a big game species and introduced 596 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: harvest quotas, closed seasons, all kinds of regulations around it, 597 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: and we started doing a lot of conservation work to 598 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: recover dear and elk populations. And as we improved dear 599 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: and elk populations and stop paying, uh, you know, stop 600 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: paying people to kill cats without any consideration of seasonality 601 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: or bag limits, we you know, basically through this thing 602 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: we called the North American model of wildlife conservations started 603 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: growing mountain lion numbers. But here's the rub. It's like 604 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: a positive article about how great it is that we 605 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: have a bunch of cats around, But then they're like 606 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: you can see the writers start to sweat. We're like, 607 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: how can I turn this into an anti hunting article 608 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: because I kind of dug a hole for myself, like 609 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: regulated honeying. We got all these mountain lions, they kind 610 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: of these hunters like kind of recovered deer and elk, 611 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: and there's all this food on the landscape now. And 612 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: so then they get to getting crafty and they're and 613 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: they go on to say that, uh, in fact, they 614 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: kind of forgot that. They're saying how good it is 615 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: that we've got some mountain lions. And then they're like, oh, 616 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: it's kind of a bummer that we have all these 617 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: mountain lions. Because we have all these mountain lions is 618 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: because hunters kill old mature mountain lions. And everyone knows 619 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: that old mature mountain lion will kill all the other 620 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: mountain lions around. So now that we kill the old 621 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: mature mountain lions, uh, the little ones live and they 622 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: go and spread around, and they're young and they go 623 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: to strike out and colonize new areas, and that leads 624 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: to conflicts of humans, and that just goes to show 625 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: you how bad hunters are. Um and you start are 626 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: getting lost in the logic of a little bit and 627 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: then the real singer. In the end, they point out that, 628 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, California band mountain lion hunting, and they now 629 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: have the lowest per capital rate of human mountain lion conflicts. 630 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: And I got to think of myself, they also have 631 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: the lowest per capital rate of people who have never 632 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: encountered a treat. So, uh, excavators in southern Indiana found 633 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: massid on bones. Well, before we leave the mountain lion thing. Uh, 634 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: you guys probably talked about this because it was all 635 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: over the news about this guy that killed the mountain lion. Yeah, 636 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: but you know what, Yeah, I know it was a 637 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: small one and all that he never went out. He 638 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: was not like I am, the great man's the world's 639 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: greatest man. He was. He was very, very, matter of very. 640 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: But the reason I would bring this up because I 641 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: want to give you. I want to give you an 642 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: opportunity to um apologize to me publicly, okay, because as 643 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: you were called, that's very I I took a lot 644 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: of ship from you and Dan, our other brother, and 645 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: all our friends growing up because I had a firm, 646 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: heartfelt belief I wasn't too worried about prayers because I 647 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: always felt like I could just grab him by the 648 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: juggler and choke him out. That's not your turns out. 649 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: That wasn't your plan. That wasn't your plan, your lying, No, 650 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: your plan, No, no, your plan, your plan in the 651 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: event of a grizzly attack, I'll remind you of your plan. 652 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: Your plan was, that is, he explained to me, as 653 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: you get him by the bottom teeth and by the 654 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: top teeth and hold his mouth agape until he's tired 655 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: and worn out and you walk way. I feel that 656 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: was what was explained. That that was the that was 657 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: the pepper spray equivalent. Dude, I'm out of this podcast. 658 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: I can't. I there might be some truth to that, 659 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: because there's a old Latvian folklore story called lodge Classes 660 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: and literally the name lodge plass is and lots is 661 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: is bear too. Plays is the verb to rip, lodge 662 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: plass is the bear ripper. And aside from spreedy this 663 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: which is another story we won't I won't get into 664 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: all the Latvian folklore stories I know about the characters, 665 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: but large Classes is like he's the man from Latvian 666 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: folklore and he saved his mother from a bear by 667 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: doing just that. I think he continue to pull until 668 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: he ripped him, until he ripped. That gives me an 669 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: idea for my popsicle stick flick them. So what's his name? 670 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: And they would tell stories about him? Yes, they always 671 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: end the same way. I think you just did. There's 672 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: just one story. You know what he did that? Well, 673 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: what did you do to that bear? Dad? Well, let 674 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: me tell you. Excavators in southern Indiana found masodon bones 675 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: on an old family farm. I was reading about this 676 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: and uh. In the article the farmer cited the discovery 677 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: as an example of just how much things have changed 678 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: around here. Minnesota's governor. Minnesota's governor I always like to 679 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: point out in the office once occupied by Jeff c. Ventura, UH, 680 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls just did an out about face UH 681 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: to announce his opposition to wolf hunting. Um and like 682 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: to paint his opposition to wolf unding. He's taken the 683 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: call at sport hunting. Meanwhile, he just went out on 684 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: a the Governor's turkey hunt, which is kind of a 685 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: symbolic turkey hunt, and then turns around and expresses his 686 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: disapproval around wolf hunting, and um, sport hunts a little 687 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: thing you use when you want something to look bad. 688 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: But I wonder if he felt that his governor's turkey 689 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 1: hunt is subsistence hunting. I don't know. Um another governor story, 690 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: your daver he stayed over in Washington just legalized hunters pink, 691 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: which you know, we all know that this is gonna 692 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: bring in legions of new hunters who you know, I don't, 693 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't hundreds of people that weren't participating due to 694 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: the available palette of safety clothing. But in Washington to 695 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: change the law, they have to bring it for the 696 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: governor's signature. And you I just like have this image 697 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: in my mind when your governor like running this big state, 698 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, and all these like huge companies are there 699 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: and things going on, and then one day guys like, uh, 700 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, I hate to do this to you, but 701 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to say sign this bill here and 702 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: he's like, what is this will? This is what this 703 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: does allows people to wear uh pink while hunting. And 704 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, wonderful, let's get this. Let's get this executed. 705 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: That's always like a bunch of old guys. They're standing 706 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: there right, let's execute this. This will be made law now. Um, 707 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: if you guys had to rate, uh, and I know 708 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 1: it's not fair, except talking to a bunch of guys 709 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: right now. Um, what do you think, like how effective 710 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: is I think nine states? Washington? I think it's the 711 00:45:53,760 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: ninth ninth state two allow blaze pain. If you had 712 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: you can just like what do you think about it? 713 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: And you could and stuff like this where I don't 714 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: really care. I kind of have this thing where you 715 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: could be like yeah, or you could be like yeah, 716 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: or you could be like yeah, right. That would be 717 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: sort of the range of my You just took all 718 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: my answers then, so I'll be like yeah, yeah, yeah. 719 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: How do you like do you feel it's gonna have 720 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 1: an impact? No? No, I want to pull the women 721 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: in the audience. What do you think pink out there? 722 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: Give me a woo for pink. If you're more in pink, 723 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: then you wouldn't orange or in the nine States. I don't. 724 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. No, you're taking 725 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: me wrong. I don't have a problem with it. I 726 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: don't care. I just I don't care what color because 727 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: I think in a lot of states hunters orange rules 728 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: are necessary. I just feel like it's a uh, I 729 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: just feel like it's talking about something that it isn't 730 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: really gonna do anything. That's all, yeah, where what color 731 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: you want? But just I just don't think if they're 732 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: passing the bill thinking this is gonna grow hunter numbers, 733 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: I think that's just like we gotta lick now we 734 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: got them. I mean, with all the barriers, I don't 735 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: think that's the one we should be working on. Right. 736 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: You don't know that that's the one. There's been any 737 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: the other ones. You could take that same time and 738 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: energy and just like simplified like a page or two 739 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: in the Big Game regulations, and that probably would have 740 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: gotten more taking a pink take it a pink highlighter 741 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,919 Speaker 1: and highlighted all the bullshit. That would have done better. 742 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: Or you would take that energy and clarify once and 743 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: for all. If you're in a state where you have 744 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: to have on an orange vest and you put a 745 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: backpack on, are you now legal or illegal? That would 746 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: be helpful to know. Uh. Speaking of big cats US 747 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: fish and while the services put out there Jaguar Recovery 748 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: Plan which is super are interesting and it's it's great 749 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: that there. It's great that this is happening. And part 750 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: of the jaguar recovery plan comes down to identifying habitat 751 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: in the US. And the trouble was they assembled this 752 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 1: thing is there, limiting their definition of the recovery unit 753 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: two places that only had observation where observations have been 754 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: made since nineteen sixty two. So the recovery unit winds 755 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 1: up having this arbitrary northern border of I ten, which 756 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: for the US just gives you like a fingernail clipping 757 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: of the US as being jaguar area. And they're ruling 758 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: out hard evidence that's pre nineteen sixty two, hard evidence 759 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 1: of jaguar habitation in New Mexico, Western Texas, Central and 760 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: northern Arizona. And then of course they're ruling out anecdotal 761 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: evidence of jaguars in California, you in Louisiana. So I 762 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: think it's great that they're thinking about this, and I 763 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: would love to see jaguar recovery going on. I mean, 764 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of like jaguars in the US. We sometimes 765 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: have one, maybe sometimes too for lucky, probably never any 766 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: more than that. Uh, speaking of distractions, right, of all 767 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: the stuff that needs to be done and to think 768 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: that like we're making laws about what, like you know, 769 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: making the color palette bigger for safety clothing. Um, what 770 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: do you guys feel is jaguar recovery? Is it just 771 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: too far out there and too radical that it's a 772 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: distraction from other stuff we should be working on, or 773 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: do you think it's like okay to sit around thinking 774 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: about this every day? Like I do all parts matter? 775 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: Mant cariboo, Like, like what were we gonna do about cariboo? 776 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: I think all parts matter? And if they were here, 777 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: I think we should try. Yeah, because that's what the 778 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: thing is that you get into this bait, like like 779 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: if you're gonna base good enough on present, you know 780 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 1: what I mean, if you're gonna say, like, okay, environmentally, ecologically, wildlife, habitat, 781 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: hunting opportunities baseline is right now, that's cool, like to 782 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: hold the line. But if they had said that in 783 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: nineteen forty that they were going to hold the line, 784 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be doing a third of the things that 785 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: we're doing now. Haunting fishing is that much better now 786 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: than it was in ninety and we've learned a lot 787 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: since then, right, Like we're better at it, so That's 788 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: where the struggle becomes because some people are so offended 789 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: by the idea of thinking about jaguar recovery. But then 790 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: it's like you say, any like how do you decide? 791 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: Like when we look at like the landscape and go like, 792 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 1: what are we striving for here? Um? Is it nineteen 793 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: sixty two? There's eighteen sixty two. I don't really know 794 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: the answer, man. The opportunity is so so huge because 795 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: of the jaguar issue is an international issue, and Mexico 796 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: is so diverse in wildlife. Like if we can use 797 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: the jaguars trojan horse like our green decoys, um two, 798 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: make some serious back and forth with old Mexico, we 799 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: could we could have a lot a lot of positive 800 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: effects on our side of the border as well. Yeah, 801 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. Like the Apex thing where 802 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: if you're looking at connectivity for jaguars was a real 803 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 1: trickle down Yeah, absolutely trickle down benefits. I like Ryan's point. 804 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: Another point I'd make though about things like this that 805 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: it always kind of um interesting to me that that 806 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: uh we stipulate these time points is like um, reference conditions, 807 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: and we want to return it, like return to that 808 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: time or that reference state, you know, and it kind 809 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: of I think it kind of ignores, how um to 810 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: some extent, the way population dynamics work. I mean, those 811 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: sorts of things. The spatial distributions of animals and plants 812 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: are always in flux. So to try to take some 813 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: static point and make it that that's going to be 814 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,479 Speaker 1: the benchmark seems a little misdirected to me. Well, yeah, 815 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think it becomes especially misdirective when you 816 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: look at people the rewilding movement of people who when 817 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: they set their clock, they set their clock to the 818 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: clsn sn Holo scene transition to the point where they're like, 819 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: they were like, well, let's repopulate North America with camels, horses, 820 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: the African lion because that's the closest approximation to the 821 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: American lion that we had, and bringing packet erms elephants 822 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: to try to, you know, replicate the I mean, I 823 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: look at that and I think it's silly. But I 824 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: look at someone saying that that we should recover jaguars, 825 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel silly. Like I don't know how to 826 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: find the date, and I don't know that it is 827 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: a date thing, right, Yeah, to me, it's more of 828 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: a plausibil on the on the side of them being 829 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: able to habitate where they're capable habitating, I guess yeah. 830 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,959 Speaker 1: But like the reference condition thing, maybe maybe I got 831 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: uh skin in the game. Like if that was applied 832 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: to turkeys, I wouldn't have shot the king King. It's 833 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: a good point, man. If you said we're gonna set 834 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: things back to nineteen seventy four, you just lost every 835 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: turkey hunter in Michigan, and well definitely every turny under here, 836 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, because there were zero turkeys at that point. 837 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, toying with dates, You're right, it's a 838 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: good point. Toying with dates is dangerous. Whatever the hell 839 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two came from, I don't know, and the 840 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 1: myriad of condition rat and she's like, well, this is 841 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: the one thing that's just never the case that I'm 842 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: aware of. But if you've ever seen a photo of 843 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: a jaguar standing on snow, I would pay a lot 844 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: of money to see that for real life. I just 845 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: think that's like, it's the biggest, baddest thing in the 846 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: Western hemisphere. That's like, that's the opportunity, right, that's the 847 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: dream that's still like we can actually reach that, which 848 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: I think is pretty awesome. Yeah, I would like to 849 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 1: get him up to the point where there's a tag draw. Yeah, 850 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: well now we see your decoy. You're like, yeah, we 851 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: need more. You guys are missing the point the big 852 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,919 Speaker 1: dream here. More predators eat more game animals. The less 853 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: game animals are out there, the less hunters we need, 854 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: less opportunity land. He was telling us this thing about 855 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: jaguars earlier in the green Room Secret plot less hunting 856 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 1: through predation. What's the point of having that gun? There's 857 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: nothing to shoot. Jaguar has got them all. No, but 858 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: it is it's like you're asking for something tricky, and 859 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 1: I realized that it's like the thing that like, the 860 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,879 Speaker 1: thing that I'm asking for and the thing that I'm 861 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: sort of after in life is hard for a lot 862 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: of people to understand because because i'm you look at 863 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: it and you'd be like, oh, you know, we want mountain, 864 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: we want mountains, we want honorable numbers of mountain lions 865 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: and opening people's access to the resource. And you look 866 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: at something like jaguars, and I think a lot of 867 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: hunters be like, why would I want to invite competition, 868 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: Why would we want to have another animal on the 869 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: landscape that consumes game. But I would just look at 870 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: it as like sort of increasing just the like increasing 871 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: the species abundance you talking about. I was curious, like 872 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm I don't know this, so maybe some other people 873 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: here don't either, But like how long ago would you 874 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: have to go back before it's like a common occurrence 875 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: to see him in the US? I think that if 876 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: you I think if you went back to the nineteen fifties, 877 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: you'd have there weren't just ones. It wasn't onesies twosies. 878 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: If you go back to the hunters where they like 879 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: see you one a week, no very I don't know 880 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: if you see one a week, but they're very definitely 881 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: here and probably a much wider distribution. Yeah, I mean, 882 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 1: what you want to write like some of the best 883 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: advocates for mountain lions or mountain lion hunters, so you know, 884 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: at some point you can hunt on like jaguars, right, 885 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: like you'd have like the Jaguar unlimited or whatever, you know, 886 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean maybe not on the foundation, you know, really, 887 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: I you know, I mean that's like that's the way 888 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: this thing works. Jaguar Limited sure, but that's the We've 889 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: talked about that a lot, and that's the higher part 890 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: of people to understand, is like what the people that 891 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 1: wound up really pushing to get the mountain lion thing right? 892 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 1: It was mountain lion hunt absolutely, like we want them here, 893 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: we want hunable numbers here. We don't want this to 894 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: go away. We're gonna ensure our access the resource, and 895 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna guarantee the resource and perpetuity and and they 896 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of drew up what the plan would look like. 897 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: And have respect for those animals, yea, like nobody knows 898 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 1: them better than those lion hunters. It's like that, I 899 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: love my animals. That's what I want to shoot him. 900 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: Here's going with you guys? Uh, how big is a spot? 901 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: Meaning you take someone out to a spot when you 902 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: okay you okay, yeah, you take someone it's listen, it's 903 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: a great one. I recently had. I recently had a 904 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: buddy who took someone to a spot and then just 905 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: recently found out that they just hunted one creek over creaker. Yeah, listen, 906 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: I was there. It's a crick Uh. There was tires 907 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 1: all if yeah, if like the we said, like Patrick 908 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: Man as if there's a tire in it, a crep, 909 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: it's crep, like if you I know Callahan recently said 910 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: to me that a lot of times I'd rather someone 911 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 1: just didn't. I'd rather not go with someone somewhere. Were 912 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: you telling me? This was this? Rammy telling me this? 913 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: This was I think this is me. I'd rather not 914 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: have somebody take me someplace. Yeah, there was you, because 915 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: it might be uh freaking sweet place and in a 916 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: few years I might discover it on my own. And 917 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 1: now I have to cross off the map because somebody 918 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 1: showed it, Like, don't even show me, because I'll eventually 919 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: find it, and when I find it, I'm gonna dominate. 920 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: Or if he if he gets drunk and slips up 921 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: and tells you where it is, it's a fair game. 922 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: So I don't take me there? But would you like 923 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: to go get a beer? So what about the rule? 924 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: What about the rule? Like if you don't take anybody 925 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: else there, you can go there by yourself? That exist? 926 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: That yeah? So okay, So so that's what I want 927 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: to get you? Here? Is it? Yeah? Like okay? So 928 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: so let's say that here's the table and this table 929 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: is this table is whatever we want to imagine it 930 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: as this table could be. It's it's a mile wide, 931 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: it's ten miles wide, it's it's acre state game area, 932 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,439 Speaker 1: and someone takes you and you explore that over there, 933 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: and then you say like, hey, we're gonna have it. 934 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: We go and we have a great day, we shoot 935 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: some ducks, and you're like, listen, um, I don't want 936 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: you to go back to my spot. What does that mean? 937 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: You don't ever actually say that, dude? Yes, yeah, yeah, 938 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: but you established that before. You didn't even have to 939 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 1: say it. It would be like it was. It's very onset. 940 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: Do you understand. I feel like you're hunting with the 941 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: wrong dudes, And at the end of the day you're 942 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: like a love your brother. That was awesome. High five. 943 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: By the way, you know you can't come back here, right? Yeah? Well, no, 944 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you put it that way. I think 945 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: you put it like I think you put it like 946 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: you're like, you know what, man, it's a sweet little spot. 947 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of it can get burned out pretty bad. Um, 948 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 1: I'd love to hunt it again. But we should just 949 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: be really careful. We should be real careful and not 950 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: kind of blow it up because it's not good for 951 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: anybody when you blow it up. We should just sit 952 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: tight on it. If you put it like that, I'd 953 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: be right back in there next day. You should have 954 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: told me not to go back in there, dude. Like 955 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: I asked Ni for some I just remember kind of 956 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,919 Speaker 1: hunt in general. I have somebody for some turkey hunting 957 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: spots recently. And it's like thousands of acres of national 958 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: forests where I was headed to and I said, Yanni, 959 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: is there any spots? And this is thousands of acres 960 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: and he goes and it's between two towns and he goes, well, 961 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: somewhere between these two towns, you'll find something. And when 962 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: I first read the text, I wrote back like, thanks man, 963 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: you're such a good friend. And then I got there, 964 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah, somewhere between the two towns, 965 01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: which means the entire national forest. Thanks you. What happened 966 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: when you went there to turkeys? Right away? Right in 967 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: between the two towns where he said they listen, I 968 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: had a situation where I would hunt this spot for 969 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: turkeys here, and I'd just just to help out my 970 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: actual question, get get tighter, am it? It is a 971 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 1: a singular spot and we would hunt this spot and 972 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I'd always ask about this other place that you can see. 973 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,439 Speaker 1: That means I'm wanted to really because because I wanted 974 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: to get some people so people can understand. There's a 975 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: road and the road forks, and we would always go 976 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: to the right fork, and I would always ask about 977 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 1: the left fork, and it was said that I do 978 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: not hunt over there, but I know there's birds over there. Okay, 979 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: now I'm getting clear picture. Now the next season, everybody 980 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: schedules all jazzed up. I'm like, hey, are we hunting 981 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: opening morning? No, I can't hunt opening morning. I already 982 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 1: made commitments to go over here. And I was like, 983 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: all right, well it cool if I go try that 984 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: left fork. It's like, yep, have at it. I brought 985 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 1: somebody from work under like I was like, hey, now, yeah, 986 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm not on your get to the right 987 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: park and he's like you put on there and You're like, no, 988 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 1: but I know there's birds there. And it was immediately 989 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: apparent that this was a very poor decision. And then 990 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: it was then hammered home upon me for let's say 991 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: a decade, that that was a very poor decision and 992 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: to just basically stayed there out of this county by 993 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: going who's that poet? It was like you to the 994 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: fork in the road road the wood. Yeah, two rolls 995 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 1: the verge in the wood and Ryan Callahan killed the 996 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: bird and the right fork man was mad that you 997 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: went to the left fork, or that you took someone 998 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: to the left took someone to the left fork. It's like, 999 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: you don't. He's like, but do not ever. And I'm 1000 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and remind you this for every turkey 1001 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: season in perpetuity from here on out. Take anybody else 1002 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: anywhere near here. Meaning this, I'm holding my hands very 1003 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: wide apart this gener this like this region of the world. 1004 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there's turkeys eight hours north of here, 1005 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: so I guess I'll go there. Yeah. It's it's really hard. 1006 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: It's so there's no way to there's no way to 1007 01:03:54,320 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: explain it. Spot dynamics, I mean, probably the best way 1008 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: to void hurt feelings and just get very explicit. You 1009 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 1: get out the map and your circle and you go 1010 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: if I take well, first you have to guys, you 1011 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:13,919 Speaker 1: have to agree ahead of time. It's like I'm about 1012 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 1: to put a circle on the map, and if I 1013 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you where the circle is gonna be. 1014 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: But if you if you really want to go hunting 1015 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: with me in my spot, then you won't go inside 1016 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: this circle without me. Yeah, it's almost like friendships. It's 1017 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: so and you're like this the circle is gonna roughly 1018 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: resemble the outline of the state of Montana. It's like 1019 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: friendships would be there. There's some things that are awkward, 1020 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: but it would really be helpful in friendships, Like if 1021 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: if someone took you to a spot and then you're 1022 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 1: driving home, you're like, my god, what I like to 1023 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: go back there again? If you could just be like, 1024 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, you just took me do a spot, it's great. 1025 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: I am sitting here really kind of plotting and figuring 1026 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: about like what I could get away with before you 1027 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: felt that I screwed you? Would you mind telling me 1028 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: like like, can we get out the map and talk 1029 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: about your feelings? Should you see me here your feelings? 1030 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: Should you see me with my buddy? Like what exactly 1031 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: are we talking about? It? From blue to blaze red? Yeah, 1032 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: anybody's like if I saw you here, I'd be curious man, 1033 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 1: not mad. Curious. Curious. Pink or Blaze are sons like 1034 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: a it's like a hunting prenup. Yeah I saw you here. 1035 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 1: I'd be really pissed. It should be like it should 1036 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: be a layer that you can download on. Its great 1037 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: that that is a good on X piece man of 1038 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: something like. Yeah that this thing like a like a 1039 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: buffer zone app part of the app or everything like 1040 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: that layer is gonna cost you two bucks, but I 1041 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: strongly suggest you download. We had a guy to recently 1042 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: right in a thing you're coming by on Extra Miami. 1043 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: He wrote in and you know when you're reading history 1044 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: books about you know, like explorers, and you were dying 1045 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: to kind of know like where they went and how 1046 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: they're route, Like if you're reading about John Coulter and 1047 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 1: where he went and his big walk about um, he 1048 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: opens when he's reading history Western history, he opens up 1049 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 1: on X so he can get a better sense of 1050 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: like they went through this pass and they went down 1051 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: that river and he can kind of follow and it 1052 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: really brings history alive to be able to see those 1053 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: routes finagling through Well dirt myth who's running around here tonight. 1054 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 1: He's got a great story about he and his brother 1055 01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 1: on a motorcycle trip through uh uh Chile. I believe 1056 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: that's what I said, Cambodia and starts to they get 1057 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 1: they get lost, and he he and his bro are 1058 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 1: talking with some folks in this tiny little town village 1059 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and they lay a map out, a map of where 1060 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't Cambodia, someplace in Cambodia, and uh, they're blown 1061 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: away because they've never seen their area contextualized on a map. 1062 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 1: And they were kind of like, we're that close to 1063 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: their r Yeah, yeah, stacked in there. Yeah. That was 1064 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: my favorite story about We went to hunt Dug during 1065 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 1: we're hunt down in Wisconsin, not on Dug during his place, 1066 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: but we're over in uh hunting with some other dudes, 1067 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 1: and Doug is kind of burned up that we'd go 1068 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: to all that way and hunt with another crew and 1069 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: we're hunting his town called Elroy, and Dougs talking about 1070 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 1: Elroy like it's like, oh my god, over in Elroy, 1071 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, and like Elroy is like this other part 1072 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 1: of the state. It's kind of like they'd be like 1073 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: people you know, from Miles City thinking about Bozeman or something. Right, 1074 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, those people over there in 1075 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: Elroy and going on on the one day, we decided 1076 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: to drive over and sea dog. It's like, we drive 1077 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: like a mile down the road and we're at Duck's house. Hey, hey, 1078 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: I need to help me with this. But um, some 1079 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: of the details about we haven't talked about. The most 1080 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 1: cynical approach to hunting somebody's um spot, not having them 1081 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: get mad at you because of a technicality, involves Danny, 1082 01:08:53,120 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 1: our brother in Fairbanks. Involves gross hunting. We'll leave some 1083 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: of the names out. Leave the names out. My understanding 1084 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 1: there was my brother was gonna take. My brother and 1085 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,600 Speaker 1: his buddy are taking another guy hunting grouse. People are 1086 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: all surprised if people you can hunt rough people hunt 1087 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 1: rough grouse in Alaska. So they're going hunt rough grouse 1088 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: and there's a guy that's kind of he's a little 1089 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 1: bit of a snake in the grass and I've seen 1090 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: his first hand. I've seen this first hand with him. 1091 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 1: But they drive to the spot and all of a sudden, 1092 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: he changed his mind once they get to it, doesn't 1093 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 1: want to hunt anymore. Oh, something came up, something came up, 1094 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: and goes home and then he starts hunting that spot. 1095 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: The next day, they saw his car park there because 1096 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: He's like, well, you never took me to the spot. 1097 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 1: Remember we got there. We got there and I had 1098 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: to go home, and then he took it and then 1099 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: made it his spot, which is low blows like that 1100 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 1: Seinfeld episode where he's like, no, you owe me dinner, 1101 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:08,600 Speaker 1: but I only had suit doesn't count. Here's one Um, 1102 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: why does it seem this is me thinking this, Why 1103 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: does it seem less wrong? Two slip across if someone's fence, 1104 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 1: say and pick a morrel, then it does to slip 1105 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 1: across their fence and kill a deer. You know what 1106 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like that, you'll t there's like a sort 1107 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,719 Speaker 1: of like if you gotta like duck over onto someone's 1108 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: land real quick. It's kind of like what you're doing 1109 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,600 Speaker 1: feels like it makes it more or less wrong. This 1110 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: is from bad when I was younger and we just 1111 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: went wherever we want degrees there, if you slip across 1112 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: the fence and steal his car, it's even worse. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, 1113 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,680 Speaker 1: it's like you're right now that you put it that way, 1114 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 1: I realized's just like I went across the fence came 1115 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: back with his wife. That was a problem. It's you're right. 1116 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: It's just a value. It's not wild it's not like 1117 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 1: a wildlife thing. It's like what was the value of what? Yeah, 1118 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 1: you go and get a deer. It's just like a 1119 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 1: Ronnella family thing, like, oh, there's a mushroom. Oh no, 1120 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 1: it can't. I'll fudge the line for a morrel because 1121 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,959 Speaker 1: my in my mind, I feel like a mushroom is ephemeral. 1122 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,679 Speaker 1: And so if I see let's just say, you look 1123 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: and it's like a beautiful oyster mushroom or like a 1124 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: chicken of the woods, and it's just across the line 1125 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 1: you're driving on the road, and it's ephemeral, it's not 1126 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna be there, and it's already been there, no one's 1127 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: picked it yet, and you just picture it's just gonna rock. 1128 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 1: It just seems different to scoot over and grab it. 1129 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I would never do millionaires cross a fence and go 1130 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: like take game off someone else's property, But I would 1131 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: slip a little ways over perhaps to grab mushrooms. And 1132 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 1: if we're speaking in the context of now, when we 1133 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:04,719 Speaker 1: were younger, you're basically saying, well, somebody would notice the deer, 1134 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: and that's why I wouldn't take the deer. Yeah, it's 1135 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: probably a little bit of that thrown in. Yeah, but 1136 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean we're speaking. I'm just saying that you're weighing 1137 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 1: the severity of the punishment as you slip or jump 1138 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:31,759 Speaker 1: or don't. Yeah. Now, I don't like, I just don't um. 1139 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: I have like I've gotten to the point where it's 1140 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 1: like you sort of have this like what what's there 1141 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: to lose kind of thing, And yeah, man, I can't 1142 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 1: get you to trespass at all anymore. Okay, I wanna 1143 01:12:52,040 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: it makes turkey hunting extra tongue the good old days. 1144 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,600 Speaker 1: I had The other day, I was hunting with a 1145 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: new turkey hunter and you know, the first time hunter, 1146 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: and we're hunting, and we were standing on a fence 1147 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: line ron national forest, and I'm explaining how we're trying 1148 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,639 Speaker 1: to bring up birds off call birds off private property 1149 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 1: on the national forest, and uh, that's not intuitive for 1150 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: some people. And I had to be like listen, I had. 1151 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 1: I was just feel like, this isn't even shady, like 1152 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: this isn't like a weird thing. This is just how 1153 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 1: the world works. Man. This is like if the owner 1154 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 1: was standing right there, I still I wouldn't like act 1155 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 1: like I was doing something else. I mean, this is 1156 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 1: just like we're just playing ball man, We're calling birds 1157 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 1: off that dude's property. And the reaction of the new 1158 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 1: hunter was like what that fits that little fits? No, 1159 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: it was it was it was more that that was sketchy. Yeah, 1160 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: it was more like like, well, the minute their car, like, 1161 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 1: I want to steal that car. The minute they drive 1162 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 1: off their property, I'll grab it. Ah. That's how she 1163 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 1: felt we were being She didn't realize this is just how. 1164 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: And I explained to her that the thing that wounded 1165 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: up being an effective. Thing that I explained to her 1166 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 1: is I was like, here's the thing right now, as 1167 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 1: residents of this state, we actually own that turkey. That 1168 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: landowner owns access to it and can control access to it. 1169 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 1: But right now our turkey is over there, which is true, 1170 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: which is true. So we just need to get it 1171 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,280 Speaker 1: back over to the area where we have access to 1172 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 1: pick our thing that we own. U Um, the thing 1173 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: I want to get into real quick. If we talked 1174 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 1: about things like that. A lot of times I like 1175 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 1: to ask people like, what's the thing your most hot 1176 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 1: on right now? Cooking wise, what's the dish your most 1177 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 1: hot on? But I wanted to change it up, because 1178 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things I've been wanting like that 1179 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I ever heard about that been wanting to make. So 1180 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm inviting you in whatever order to talk about, like 1181 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 1: what is the wild game dish you most want to 1182 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 1: make but haven't gotten around to yet. If you need 1183 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:27,040 Speaker 1: to think about it, I'll start. A guy explained to 1184 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 1: me recently, you don't even make corn fee. He said, 1185 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 1: there's a thing called Appalachian cuse. Like when you make corfee, 1186 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 1: like take goose thighs or duck thighs or even like 1187 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,719 Speaker 1: like beaver thigh and heure it like with a dry 1188 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 1: rub and then clean the dry rub off, and then 1189 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,000 Speaker 1: you just simmer it in fat until it's tender, just 1190 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,759 Speaker 1: like the same way if you centered something in water 1191 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 1: to crock pot, will eventually get tender tender when you 1192 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,479 Speaker 1: simmer it in fat, and then you store it in 1193 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: the fat. And he was saying that when he was 1194 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: this guy was something when he was a kid, his 1195 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 1: grandpa would make venison meatball and then he would cook 1196 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 1: the meatballs always done or sorry, like sausage breakfast sausage balls. 1197 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Did you cook venison breakfast sausage? You cook all the 1198 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: balls and then you get them all done and you 1199 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,760 Speaker 1: pack them in a jar, and then he would pour 1200 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 1: a lard over it and just start like that. And 1201 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:23,360 Speaker 1: he called the Appalachian corn feet and store breakfast sausages, 1202 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 1: and he said it was the perfect camp food because 1203 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 1: they're all cooked and you just dredge them out of 1204 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: their thromb on a pan reheat them. I've been wanting 1205 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,599 Speaker 1: to make Appalachian corn feet, and the only I want 1206 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 1: to make as if you heard of a duck press. Yeah, 1207 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Like it's the thing you do where you cook a duck. Um, 1208 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,759 Speaker 1: you cook it away until the till the meats perfect. 1209 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 1: Hold duck. You cook it until the meat is perfect 1210 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 1: on the breast, and then they'll cut the breasts off, 1211 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,120 Speaker 1: so you cut the breast officers still rare, and then 1212 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: they cook the duck the rest of the way. And 1213 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: then the duck presses it can trap and that just 1214 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 1: comes down. It's like this giant hand crank on it 1215 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 1: and it squishes that to squeeze every last god forsaken 1216 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: drip of fat and blood and goo and anything that 1217 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 1: will ever come out of there out of there. And and 1218 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: and that is a sauce with which you serve. The 1219 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:29,839 Speaker 1: duck is pretty damn interesting, man. So Appalachian caln fee 1220 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 1: and a duck press are two things I like to 1221 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 1: be more involved with. Mine would be like a redo 1222 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: with something I screwed up a few years ago. I 1223 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 1: pit roasted a bunch of animal hams, Like, like, how 1224 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,600 Speaker 1: you do a pit roasted hog? Yeah? Yea dark a 1225 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: hole with skits deer, and burned cotton wood in it 1226 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,760 Speaker 1: all night and then put that antelope and I think 1227 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,600 Speaker 1: we put it wrapped him in tinfoil the hams, and 1228 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 1: then put wet, wired, wet burlap ram and buried him. 1229 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 1: And I should have known that that was not a 1230 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,720 Speaker 1: good idea because because what reason is that not a 1231 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 1: good It's just so freaking dry, man, Like, there's just 1232 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: no people were this. We had a big PERI people 1233 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,559 Speaker 1: were eating it, and like if they were inhaled as 1234 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: they were taking a bite, they'd like get antalope dust 1235 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 1: and and start choking like they had antalope silicosis. It's like, 1236 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 1: I would love to do that again, but just large 1237 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 1: the ship out of that, because I think it would 1238 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 1: be delicious if you did that. Smoke some fish with 1239 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 1: conwood and how metallic. It tasted, but yeah, but I 1240 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: think it's when you put in the ground out are 1241 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 1: you really smoking? It's more just like who else like 1242 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 1: to share? So I'm in h you talked duck, so 1243 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 1: I should allowed ducks. Last night, Ryan Bustle, he's just 1244 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 1: sitting right over here. You made this like duck crackman, 1245 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 1: so like pork, you know, pork, h like cheat your 1246 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 1: own exactly. It was absolutely delicious and so it was 1247 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 1: something new that I haven't done with duck before. Now 1248 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 1: this whole press thing, I don't there. It's actually a 1249 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 1: contraption or is it something else that you use? You 1250 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: should go look up duck presses because they're actually recorny 1251 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,760 Speaker 1: like brass, really expensive antique duck press. I mean you 1252 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 1: can also use your truck, but like two cast iron 1253 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,679 Speaker 1: skillets in the truck. But yeah, like a duck press 1254 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 1: is a thing, man, It's like a mechanical thing. But 1255 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 1: this duck Crackman last night was like it was delicious, 1256 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 1: so wild duck skin absolutely and like little teeny pieces, 1257 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: like little teeny pieces and putting that on top of 1258 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 1: something else, you know, like that was I didn't get 1259 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: to see what you put it on top of I 1260 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: just got to see like that little teeny piece, And 1261 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 1: ever since I had that last night, I can't wait 1262 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 1: till this next fall. Yeah, So eat the duck meat, 1263 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,519 Speaker 1: take the pluck skin to make crack ones. We took 1264 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 1: one time a wild pig and made. One thing we 1265 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: did that was interesting is we made our own sausage casings. 1266 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: We took all that bit I don't know, twenty ft 1267 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 1: of intestined out of there, and you had to turn 1268 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 1: it inside out and scrape every last square inch that 1269 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: thing and just scrape and scrape and scrape, and eventually 1270 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 1: get it down to where it's right. Then turned it 1271 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 1: back inside out and flush it all out. And holy 1272 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,640 Speaker 1: sh it, does that make you appreciate? So does it 1273 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,000 Speaker 1: really look like hog gut? That dude when we were 1274 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,680 Speaker 1: done with it. When we were done with it, it 1275 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,600 Speaker 1: was no different than any brought you ever had. It 1276 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,920 Speaker 1: was just a labor intensive process to scrape it down. 1277 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 1: When you got in your hand, it's like an umbilical 1278 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,000 Speaker 1: cord and you scrape it until it's thin, until it 1279 01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:53,080 Speaker 1: thin thin, and it's it's it's tempted. But we made 1280 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,679 Speaker 1: like we made the odds. We made it we made 1281 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 1: the cracklings. Yeah, we made the cracklings. It was really good. 1282 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 1: But I never thought I'm not ready to drop this. 1283 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: I never thought to try it with Um, I'm not. 1284 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,559 Speaker 1: I'm not wanting to let that quite stand the way, 1285 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,880 Speaker 1: speaking of all those topics that we sort of covered 1286 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 1: numerous times, and he's gonna let him, you know, let 1287 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 1: him be. Yeah, this seems like, yeah, he's always make 1288 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,639 Speaker 1: trying to make me look like a Unich on stage. 1289 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:31,639 Speaker 1: I no, Um, it's to my benefit, it's some I realized. Uh, 1290 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 1: And I like you to go your own path in life. 1291 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 1: It's to my great benefit that you did not have children, 1292 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:43,920 Speaker 1: because um, you have that much more love to pour 1293 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 1: upon my kid. I texted you about this then. I 1294 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: was telling you right now in front of everybody, that 1295 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: I was very grateful like the I was watching videos 1296 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,520 Speaker 1: of you with my kids and just like the wonderful 1297 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:01,200 Speaker 1: dynamic that you've created with them of just being very 1298 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 1: much like on equal ground with them in conversation. No, no, 1299 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm not. No, you take this the wrong way. I'm 1300 01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,160 Speaker 1: not dogging. I'm expressed it the wrong way. There's the 1301 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,639 Speaker 1: way that people they got a way they talk to kids. 1302 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,599 Speaker 1: In the way they act with kids. And it's nice 1303 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 1: when someone can just be with them and like hang 1304 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 1: out with them and not be like, you know, to intellectually. Yeah, no, 1305 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:29,839 Speaker 1: just like like kids listen, you know I'm talking that ship. Yeah, 1306 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: because they're like there's a dolls and the kids just 1307 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 1: don't want to hang with and whatever. And it's because 1308 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 1: they talked to him in some like weird way as 1309 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 1: opposed to like just get Oh yeah, they overdo it. 1310 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,639 Speaker 1: I'm the crazy man, you know, like, yeah, like, oh 1311 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,719 Speaker 1: it's crazy uncle man again. Look what's this? I pulled 1312 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,000 Speaker 1: your nose off. Look but to my fingers, you know, 1313 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 1: like that suit yea, let me give my turkey suit 1314 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 1: on anyway, I'd like to eat some turkey liver pat. 1315 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,360 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say to you. Yanni 1316 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:08,639 Speaker 1: just made so you're we could do this because your 1317 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,719 Speaker 1: thing that you'd like to make, Yanni made it. Oh yeah, 1318 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,240 Speaker 1: so we could make you want to make. Ben's already made. 1319 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 1: We're making up from that whole spot. Turkey cord on blue. Yeah, 1320 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 1: you turkey cord on blue. I got a problem though, 1321 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 1: you make wild turkey cord on blue. I've been thinking 1322 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to make that. I gotta it's delicious. I 1323 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 1: got a big problem, though, and I feel like it's 1324 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 1: easily solved. But what I do is take a wild 1325 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 1: game and then I put non wild game inside the 1326 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 1: wild game and roll it up. Is that is this, sue? 1327 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,000 Speaker 1: Is that an issue? I feel guilty? You. Yeah, you 1328 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 1: need to get some like a wild bore um maybe 1329 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 1: like a deer hammer's access to your hamd and like 1330 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: cut it real thing. It's normally isn't it normally ham 1331 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 1: It's normally hamd like poor cam. Yeah, that's what I 1332 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,640 Speaker 1: put in it because my kid likes it and my 1333 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,040 Speaker 1: wife likes it. But then I feel gil tea. But 1334 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a weight thing. An he smoked salty 1335 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 1: hand would probably work. When you're eating deer burger that 1336 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 1: you cut in with ten percent pork fat, is it not? 1337 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: It's still deer burger now if it was pork. But 1338 01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,680 Speaker 1: then I'm like, is a wild game or not? I 1339 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,560 Speaker 1: don't know. It's something different now, but ten percent I 1340 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: regard as wild game. If you wait out the turkey 1341 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,679 Speaker 1: in the ham it's still wild game. It only becomes 1342 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know at what point. I think maybe around 1343 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,080 Speaker 1: forty percent that it becomes like you can't tell if 1344 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,759 Speaker 1: it's wild game. Any I felt that you might chide 1345 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 1: me for this because I was over at your house 1346 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 1: one time when you weren't there and your kids were 1347 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,960 Speaker 1: was his wife there? His wife was there. Yeah, we 1348 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,400 Speaker 1: were eating dinner, the whole families eating dinner together, and 1349 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: we were it's my boss here. We're eating dinner, and 1350 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,240 Speaker 1: they there was a chicken item in the dinner, and 1351 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 1: your and your child a Rosy looked at me and goes, 1352 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 1: don't tell dad. I was like, don't tell dad what? 1353 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 1: She just like held the chicken up. So I felt 1354 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,560 Speaker 1: that you might chide me in the way that you 1355 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 1: would chide them for eating chicken. No, No, that is 1356 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 1: that I'm into the court on blue deal. It's so 1357 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 1: funny that because I thought about making it, and I 1358 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 1: had the same reluctance you've made it at Ham, But like, 1359 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 1: what about I honestly had the same thought. But what 1360 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,759 Speaker 1: about like a another option to be like some thinly 1361 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,439 Speaker 1: sliced smoked bear Ham. We'll do that, Yanni and I 1362 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 1: are gonna kill a bear on bruin there. I like it. 1363 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna cook this year for the 1364 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,479 Speaker 1: first time ever. Yeah, you haven't gone yet, real jack 1365 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:55,839 Speaker 1: about it. It's just gonna be a thick, simple steak, 1366 01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,200 Speaker 1: little salt and pepper, little olive oil, maybe char up 1367 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 1: lemon on the grill, pitch that on top. It's gonna 1368 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,719 Speaker 1: be big horn cheap as soon as this Montana draw 1369 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,599 Speaker 1: comes out. Because you're feeling good about your point oh 1370 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,599 Speaker 1: seven percent chance pulling that tag. I was super panicked 1371 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 1: at the office and then we were at the deadline 1372 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 1: and I hadn't put any thought into it. So I 1373 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,839 Speaker 1: just kind of shotguns in some numbers into the system 1374 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 1: and paid my money, and for some reason, I'm feeling 1375 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,800 Speaker 1: really good about it. Did you do If you did 1376 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,599 Speaker 1: a U tag, if you did a big horn you tag, 1377 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,479 Speaker 1: you have reason to be optimistic. I'd be pumped. Did 1378 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 1: you do you tag? I think I don't, like I said, man, 1379 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:47,320 Speaker 1: it was just like, I mean, yeah, yeah, I was. 1380 01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out where you were going with that. 1381 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 1: I was like that I do that kind of like 1382 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,040 Speaker 1: every day, So you want to have it would be 1383 01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 1: like if you were talking about sexual positions and Ryan's like, yeah, 1384 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 1: there's this one I want try, or the man gets 1385 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 1: on top and the woman was laying on her back. Okay, 1386 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:11,960 Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. You sound like a man who's 1387 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 1: been around. Uh, we need to go ahead. We want 1388 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 1: to move on to see him through the bullshit. Oh 1389 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 1: that kind of go ahead. No, no, go on with 1390 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: the thing you want to make. Oh you're did at 1391 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,679 Speaker 1: court on blue and you want to make the liver. 1392 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,640 Speaker 1: But we just had to lift the turkey liver. Pat a, 1393 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,720 Speaker 1: can you walk through jacque Pepine? Can you walk through 1394 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 1: your Jacque Pepine liver recipe again? Jack? You have a 1395 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,400 Speaker 1: yolking there. No, no, what do you mean when you 1396 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,080 Speaker 1: said that again? You've already done it? Yes, I did 1397 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:46,920 Speaker 1: it last year too. Oh just hear them real fast. 1398 01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 1: You take a turkey liver. Take a turkey turky liver. 1399 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,320 Speaker 1: I usually soak it in cold water for a few days, 1400 01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,280 Speaker 1: rents out the water a bunch. It's every time you 1401 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,280 Speaker 1: do that, it seems to be some blood that's leaving 1402 01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,560 Speaker 1: the turkey liver. I trim it up. I found that 1403 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 1: they way the recipes for a half pound of livers. 1404 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,080 Speaker 1: The tricky liver is usually coming in and right about 1405 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 1: five ounces, so you're just over half of what the 1406 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 1: recipe calls for by just half the recipe, and then 1407 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,160 Speaker 1: you bring it up to temple. I think like maybe 1408 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 1: a half a cup of water. There's a bai leaf 1409 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 1: in there. Ah, it's maybe like a pinch of time. 1410 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,600 Speaker 1: It's real simple. There's not much else in there. You 1411 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: bring it up to temp as soon as it boils, 1412 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 1: you cover it, you turn it off, You let it 1413 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 1: sit for like two or three minutes. You just barely 1414 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,479 Speaker 1: want to cook it. Um, you take it out of there, 1415 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,240 Speaker 1: you take it all out of the water, you take 1416 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:39,559 Speaker 1: the baileafal you put into a food processor? Is selling 1417 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,680 Speaker 1: food process? Yeah? More generally you're just talking dirty to 1418 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,480 Speaker 1: me right now, man, Um, And you got like basically 1419 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 1: seasoned liver mush at that point. And then I believe 1420 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 1: for that even halved you go with I want to say, 1421 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 1: it's ten or twelve tae spoons of butter. So at 1422 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,639 Speaker 1: that point again, yeah, you're kind of you're threading that line, 1423 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,800 Speaker 1: but it's so good man wild game anymore. But yeah, 1424 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 1: you drop them in two tablespoons at a time. You 1425 01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 1: keep going, and then I think you the last thing 1426 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,760 Speaker 1: is like a tablespoon of coniac brandy whiskey, whatever you 1427 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,719 Speaker 1: want um season with salt and pepper, put into a ramicking, 1428 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,280 Speaker 1: cover it and throw it in the fridge overnight, and 1429 01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 1: the next day you have Oh it's good, it's good. 1430 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 1: They're the butter like the wild game or not thing. 1431 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 1: It's wild game because when you taste it, it's like 1432 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,519 Speaker 1: it's turkey liver. Man. Yeah, it's like a really good 1433 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,920 Speaker 1: turkey liver. And it's also like, it's just cool to 1434 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,560 Speaker 1: bill to use the turkey's livery because I think the 1435 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 1: vast majority of turkey livers that come out of turkeys 1436 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,800 Speaker 1: out a wild turkeys in this country are not getting 1437 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 1: turned into pet terry anything else for that matter. Listen, 1438 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,720 Speaker 1: you didn't turned into magpie or crowpoop. I cubed up 1439 01:29:54,920 --> 01:30:00,160 Speaker 1: a turkey liver, like draft a turkey cubed up turkey ever, 1440 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,680 Speaker 1: put it on skewers, salt, pepper, olive oil, put it 1441 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:10,920 Speaker 1: over charcoal, and by anyone's account, overcooked it. And that 1442 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:15,080 Speaker 1: liver was absolutely phenomenal. Yeah, this is a week ago, 1443 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 1: and I have no idea what happened to that liver 1444 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:26,320 Speaker 1: during that process, but it was very, very good good. 1445 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,880 Speaker 1: There was a little creek wash in there too. Add 1446 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 1: that to your recipe Washington Creek. Uh, how are we 1447 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 1: going to determine who we're gonna who's gonna come up 1448 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 1: to play? See him through the bullshit? Should we talk 1449 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 1: about what they get to win when they come up? 1450 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,560 Speaker 1: So seeing seeing through the seeing through the bullshit is 1451 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:52,080 Speaker 1: our collaboration with with vortex optics because they he'll be 1452 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,960 Speaker 1: cut through. They help you see through the bullshit, tell them, 1453 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,280 Speaker 1: tell them how what they're gonna win what you may 1454 01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,000 Speaker 1: or may not. Came out with a revised version of 1455 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 1: a laser range finder. It's called the new one is 1456 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 1: called the Razor h D four thousand, and it is 1457 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:12,719 Speaker 1: a bad mo fall one thousand yards and I believe 1458 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: I can't quite remember which I think out to a 1459 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 1: thousand you can get um up to the it reads 1460 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:26,200 Speaker 1: in tenth of a yard. Increments exactly what that's for? Like, 1461 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,519 Speaker 1: I don't dial my skulk in the tenth of a yard, 1462 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,559 Speaker 1: but some there might be some people out there that do. 1463 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,400 Speaker 1: But like it's how precisely top of the high or 1464 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:40,080 Speaker 1: bottom of the eye. Yeah, Um, all the modes you 1465 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,680 Speaker 1: could ever want. It's super easy to use, very intuitive 1466 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,360 Speaker 1: piece of equipment. Um, I've ranged a bunch of trees 1467 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,960 Speaker 1: where this turkey that I'm trying to kill is supposed 1468 01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 1: to walk by, and it's been great for that. I 1469 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:56,080 Speaker 1: haven't ranged the turkey himself yet, but it's it's coming. 1470 01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 1: So how I'm gonna pick um the person is gonna 1471 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 1: get to play? Is I'm gonna have Land give me 1472 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 1: some numbers, and I'm gonna have broken the room kind 1473 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 1: of into some sections. So can I just go for 1474 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,320 Speaker 1: it and get our person up here? Okay? Already numbers? No, no, 1475 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,320 Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna ask Land to pick a number 1476 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:17,920 Speaker 1: between one and six, three, three, okay, so it's we 1477 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,200 Speaker 1: got the seats broken up in sort of sections. So 1478 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 1: one to three, section three, someone between here and the 1479 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 1: back row back there. Now, pick a number between one 1480 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:34,120 Speaker 1: and uh eighteen fifteen, so fifteen rows back from right here, 1481 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:39,080 Speaker 1: and now a number between one and twelve, seven and seven? 1482 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:48,799 Speaker 1: Is it? Bring them up? All right? Oh? Does everybody 1483 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,160 Speaker 1: feel good about that? We're really worried. Guys will be like, 1484 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:55,160 Speaker 1: that's rigged. That's his buddy. We know that guy. I 1485 01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 1: don't know this guy's coming up here. Pretty cocky. It's 1486 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 1: your honest wife, kid me, all right, come on out? Okay, 1487 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,680 Speaker 1: So here's how the game works. The game works. But 1488 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna you guys can have like a big reunion. 1489 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,440 Speaker 1: He's on the board. Oh, he's on the board. Okay, 1490 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you no help from the audience whatsoever. Man, 1491 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 1: we've had audiences blow our game a bunch, and don't 1492 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 1: leave after this. We've got more things we gotta take 1493 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:40,799 Speaker 1: care of. We're gonna tell you three things, three stories. 1494 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:47,879 Speaker 1: One of the stories is true. Okay, you gotta identify 1495 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:51,759 Speaker 1: the true story to win the prize. You win the prize, 1496 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:53,960 Speaker 1: we'll probably give it to go. No, let's just late, 1497 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 1: but maybe first. What's your name, young man, Eddie Nickolas, 1498 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Eddie Nikkins. Oh, the writer, Oh, the writer, Eddie Nickins. 1499 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:11,599 Speaker 1: No ship, we never met. Really, this isn't gonna work. 1500 01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,479 Speaker 1: We can't have like a writer. All right, we'll try 1501 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 1: it anyway. The story is the worst I can tell 1502 01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:30,080 Speaker 1: you three stories. Oh, man, this is never gonna work. 1503 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead, you go first, Dot me to go my 1504 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 1: story first, alright, Eddie. The government of Sweden may have 1505 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:44,080 Speaker 1: accidentally just created the next best hunting dog. They to 1506 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,320 Speaker 1: make a better service dog using what is it called 1507 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:52,280 Speaker 1: crisper technology. Crisper technology decided to splice in some raccoon 1508 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,519 Speaker 1: jeans because raccoons are known for the dexterity into a 1509 01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,280 Speaker 1: small face dog to make a dog that could actually 1510 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,840 Speaker 1: use its pause a little bit better, maybe actually open 1511 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 1: up doors to and open them up to help people 1512 01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,240 Speaker 1: get through doors. Right. Well, Louisiana Kennel gets word of this. 1513 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 1: He's like, well, service dogs whatever, I'm thinking of hunting applications. 1514 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,799 Speaker 1: You know, a dog that could climb trees, pulled squirrels 1515 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,880 Speaker 1: off the limbs, running out of holes, on other arboreal animals, 1516 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to import him. He's having issues because 1517 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,960 Speaker 1: he has fishing wildlife. He's like, no, no, no, you 1518 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:30,439 Speaker 1: can't import these genetically modified pets. That's the story. That's 1519 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:40,080 Speaker 1: the story there, g MPs. Everyone knows that after Joseph Smith, 1520 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 1: the founder of the Mormon Church, was killed by a 1521 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:50,560 Speaker 1: mob hung by a mob, that most of his followers 1522 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 1: followed Brigham Young, who took his followers to Zion. Very 1523 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 1: few people know that there was actually a power struggle 1524 01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 1: upon Joseph Smith's death, and another man with the strange 1525 01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:12,640 Speaker 1: name of James Jesse Strange took some number of followers 1526 01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,640 Speaker 1: up to Lake Michigan where they took the pirating and 1527 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,439 Speaker 1: he would later die in a shootout next to a 1528 01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 1: woodpile on a dock on Beaver Island in Lake Michigan. Matt, 1529 01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 1: all right, Eddie, I'm so enthralled that the rule was 1530 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 1: only one of these can be truth, only one. And 1531 01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,559 Speaker 1: now that these two jokers are done, I'm gonna spit 1532 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:46,840 Speaker 1: some truth thatcher. So look him in the eyes, and 1533 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: he look him right in the eyes. So the there 1534 01:36:54,400 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 1: uh this, this group of researchers UM have been they 1535 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:04,800 Speaker 1: do like range grass improvement, and they research and they've 1536 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,360 Speaker 1: been kicking around in the Eurasian step and they found 1537 01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:12,600 Speaker 1: this biotype of orchard grass which is a it's a 1538 01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:18,040 Speaker 1: it's a really good uh pasture grass that's that's been 1539 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 1: imported in the US. It's used a lot in food plots, 1540 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:28,920 Speaker 1: um for deer um. And they found this really productive 1541 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 1: biotype that um they want to import into the US. 1542 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,519 Speaker 1: UM and they want to they want to use it 1543 01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:46,519 Speaker 1: in seed mixes and pastures and in food plots. But um, 1544 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,200 Speaker 1: they have to run through a bunch of aphist stuff, 1545 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of apist testing. Well, I'm trying to get 1546 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:59,439 Speaker 1: my facts straight people. Um, they have to run so 1547 01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:07,440 Speaker 1: aphis Yeah, Animal Plant Help Inspection Service, the the regulatory 1548 01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,960 Speaker 1: body that that governs these introductions. They had to do 1549 01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of testing first, and they were doing some 1550 01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:18,800 Speaker 1: um feeding trials with with uh what they were doing 1551 01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,040 Speaker 1: some feeding trials with captive deer, and they found that 1552 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:28,960 Speaker 1: that uh, they that this biotype causes lethargy and servants. 1553 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Which is they caused type Yeah, it causes lethargy and servants, 1554 01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,640 Speaker 1: which the fancy way of saying it causes deer to 1555 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:41,920 Speaker 1: be sleepy. So now, like fishing game in Wisconsin, a 1556 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,800 Speaker 1: couple of states are all up in arms and they 1557 01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be released because they had this video 1558 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,479 Speaker 1: at this apist facility, these deer like walking around all 1559 01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,680 Speaker 1: their heads down the stooper. There's one laying out in 1560 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 1: the middle of a field in the middle of the 1561 01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 1: freaking day. And I think it's gonna make hunting too 1562 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:13,559 Speaker 1: easy another way, So let's get recap. Yeah, give us 1563 01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:21,840 Speaker 1: a quicklycap. Ryan, You got your sleepy dear seed product 1564 01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:27,720 Speaker 1: gonna be available at the big are near you. You 1565 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:35,479 Speaker 1: got the first legal battle of its type with a 1566 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 1: genetically modified pet turned the hopeful squirrel dog and you 1567 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:56,880 Speaker 1: have a religious offshoot wood pile demise. Do you want 1568 01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,760 Speaker 1: to use the audience to help you? No, no you can't. 1569 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:05,240 Speaker 1: He's nickins, he don't need anything, and only one can 1570 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 1: be three unfortunately. Yeah. Well I'm from the South, proud 1571 01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:18,320 Speaker 1: to say so, North Carolina. Right, Yeah, so I'm not 1572 01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: real big on them. My Mormon knowledge is kind of 1573 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:28,120 Speaker 1: kind of thin. I'm ruling I'm ruling that out. Yeah, yeah, 1574 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 1: the uh. I'm intrigued by the biotype story, and I'm 1575 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to go with that because I think, you know, 1576 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 1: from the South, if I was gonna across a raccoon 1577 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,439 Speaker 1: with with a dog, I'd be more interested in that 1578 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,080 Speaker 1: fort to Penis than I would being it's in it's 1579 01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:55,960 Speaker 1: tree climbing the build. So I got no choice but 1580 01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,920 Speaker 1: to go with the one that's really I think it's 1581 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:00,960 Speaker 1: a lie too. But it's gonna number three over here. 1582 01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,400 Speaker 1: Someone not pick the truth. Oh that's happened before, it 1583 01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 1: has James Jesse Strange. I messed a couple of parts. 1584 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,800 Speaker 1: He was accused of policy. It was just shoot out. 1585 01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,800 Speaker 1: He was executed. But that's but that's what threw me. 1586 01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,799 Speaker 1: Oh you know the story. But you know what I 1587 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 1: which I thought I had. I thought I had all 1588 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:34,880 Speaker 1: the facts. Well for playing today, Eddie, you still get it? 1589 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:42,439 Speaker 1: There he war tech graze that we need to have. 1590 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:45,439 Speaker 1: We got something we gotta do. It's real important. We 1591 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,160 Speaker 1: need to have tell him who's got to come up? 1592 01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:52,439 Speaker 1: Cal They got a new chapter? Oh yeah, we had. 1593 01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,519 Speaker 1: We had vote on new chapters this year. We do 1594 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,120 Speaker 1: every year as as a board. Um, and we need 1595 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:04,639 Speaker 1: a quick review of the Illinois chapter, Seth Rokey, can 1596 01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:08,759 Speaker 1: you come up still in the room? Illinois members, Illinois 1597 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:13,320 Speaker 1: whole chapter up here brand Illinois members up is the 1598 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:23,040 Speaker 1: entirety of the Illinois chapter. Do you kidding me? Really? Yeah? Well, okay, Seth, 1599 01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,920 Speaker 1: they're very selective in Illinois. Do you wanna do you mind? 1600 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,920 Speaker 1: Do you want to address everyone and say what you 1601 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,599 Speaker 1: gotta say? They're about what you got going on? Yeah, 1602 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,400 Speaker 1: I just had a quick question for pole Um while 1603 01:42:33,400 --> 01:43:03,320 Speaker 1: we're here. This is pou yah yah ya. Congradulations awesome, 1604 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:14,880 Speaker 1: So well done, gradulations stay married a long time. We 1605 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:18,600 Speaker 1: got a chapter they make it in. Oh yeah that 1606 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,080 Speaker 1: was the review. Yeah, I mean you guys are still 1607 01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,559 Speaker 1: in so the only two members of the Illinois chapter 1608 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:31,240 Speaker 1: just got engaged on the stage you tonight, Bi. Congratulations. 1609 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,360 Speaker 1: They just told me they're gonna immediately get busy and 1610 01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:40,000 Speaker 1: growing that chapter. And we got we got a concluder 1611 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:44,760 Speaker 1: from old Lamb Tawny. You got a time for a concluder. 1612 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my timer ran out at ninety nine minutes. 1613 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,839 Speaker 1: So we're good now. So we got uh, we're in Idaho, 1614 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,639 Speaker 1: and so I wanna talk about like an Idaho son, 1615 01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:56,000 Speaker 1: Ted shu Blood. You know Ted schu Blood I name, 1616 01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:59,120 Speaker 1: but no unfortunately. So he was a editor of Field 1617 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:02,799 Speaker 1: and Stream. So it's a very revered person here in Idaho, 1618 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,360 Speaker 1: and it's something that we've named an award after. And 1619 01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,799 Speaker 1: actually uh anthw Locata who was here, he's won that award. 1620 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:13,040 Speaker 1: Anthon Clauda screaming name, Yeah, there you go. Are you 1621 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:18,600 Speaker 1: here tonight? Then there was like how hearing? And what 1622 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,599 Speaker 1: we do is since he was like this is how 1623 01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:27,200 Speaker 1: are you in here? How's sleeping? But like we made 1624 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,559 Speaker 1: this award after because he was just a great writer 1625 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 1: and like to Field the Stream. We give this a 1626 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:34,400 Speaker 1: word out to the greatest communicator in the world for conservation, 1627 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,759 Speaker 1: the person that's like doing the most and Steven Ronella. 1628 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:50,720 Speaker 1: We're giving you this award tonight after right here, yeah, right, 1629 01:44:55,600 --> 01:45:01,040 Speaker 1: all right, guys, thank you very much. This is a 1630 01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:14,560 Speaker 1: great honor. Well played. People got engaged. We've got an award. Uh, 1631 01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,519 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't know if I have 1632 01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 1: a speech, man, um, try to make a quick speech. 1633 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:28,000 Speaker 1: I really don't. I've been uh yeah, it's it's been. 1634 01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 1: I've been. It's been a real blessing to start out. 1635 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:33,880 Speaker 1: And I had like a set of things that I 1636 01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,639 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about and it started to talk about 1637 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 1: them in magazines and books and have just been able 1638 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:45,680 Speaker 1: to as media has changed and matured and or the 1639 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:50,000 Speaker 1: opposite of matured. UM, have been like fortunate enough to 1640 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,599 Speaker 1: be like continue talking about a set of ideas and 1641 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 1: watching my own thoughts about them evolve over time. And 1642 01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,960 Speaker 1: it's been nice to uh, you know, wind up in 1643 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,240 Speaker 1: a situation where I take something that's very fun and 1644 01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,679 Speaker 1: funny and full of love and full of great people 1645 01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:10,759 Speaker 1: and also something that I know is is brings positive 1646 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,719 Speaker 1: things to the world and brings positive things to other people, 1647 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,000 Speaker 1: and to mix that all up and do it like 1648 01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, material written material, or things that you communicate 1649 01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,400 Speaker 1: that convey that that that I try to like help 1650 01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:27,040 Speaker 1: people realize that they love the things that they love. 1651 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,479 Speaker 1: I grew up, Uh, you know, we grew up with 1652 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 1: all the things that we we didn't recognize that we 1653 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,000 Speaker 1: love them. There's all these things we liked, and we 1654 01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,160 Speaker 1: just felt that they fell from outer space and it 1655 01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:38,840 Speaker 1: was like we were glad they were there, but didn't 1656 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,320 Speaker 1: give a whole lot of thought to how they came 1657 01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,200 Speaker 1: to be there. Um, didn't give a lot of thought 1658 01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:46,320 Speaker 1: to like thanking that they are there, ensuring that they're 1659 01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 1: there for future people. And that's just a sense a 1660 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,040 Speaker 1: feeling that grew over time. And so I've been able 1661 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,519 Speaker 1: to like work that into my work and if nothing else, 1662 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to encourage, hopefully encourage people who love to 1663 01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:03,680 Speaker 1: be outdoors and to hunting fish to recognize that what 1664 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about is that you love these things. You 1665 01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:08,080 Speaker 1: need to treat them like something you love. So to 1666 01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,720 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do that again and again through 1667 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,280 Speaker 1: time and then be uh get some recognition for it 1668 01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:17,720 Speaker 1: from you guys, um, it's really special. So thank you 1669 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:25,120 Speaker 1: very much man, Yeah, thank you, and thank you again 1670 01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:28,760 Speaker 1: for everybody that came out tonight. Thank you, everybody, I 1671 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 1: thank you,