WEBVTT - Chapter 6: A Little Lost 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:03.440 Bridgewater is a production of I Heart Radio three D 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.440 audio and Grim and Mild from Aaron Bankey. For full exposure, 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:55.880 listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. M h h hi, Mom, Hi, 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:02.160 hear me? No, No, for you still at home? It's 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:07.240 almost knew it. Are you just waking up? I'm a 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:12.000 grown man. I also don't have classes today, and I 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.600 had a late one last night, and I've actually had 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:20.240 a week of late once. Oh, finally seeing someone, Teremy, 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:25.440 I'm so glad. No, I'm not seeing someone. The only 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.440 dates I've had recently are with the library. Oh, Aretty, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.600 much different there, then. Oh well, I'm sorry to disappoint you. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.440 I don't need you to day, Jeremy. I just think 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:42.400 spending time with people your own age might be You know, mom, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.720 what did I just say about being a grown man? So? 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.640 Is it a book that's keeping you awake? Yeah, something 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.880 like that. It's not the whole thing with your father's dad, 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.440 is it? Because you said that was all resolved? No, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.960 I didn't. I said that the police didn't find anything 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.960 else with a badge. I didn't say it was resolved. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.440 He didn't go and talk to Anne Becker. Did you 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.600 is that she did or not going to talk to 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.040 Anne Becker? Mom, why don't you want me talking to her? 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:14.560 Instincent history? Jeremy, what is all of that business with 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.760 your father? She was always sticking her nose and where 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:23.120 it didn't belong. You mean in the investigation she was 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.360 his partner. Makes sense that she would have wanted something 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.799 just because she was his partner. Does not mean and 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.360 you know what, just please, Jeremy, you can't trust her. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.799 You cannot trust this woman. Mom. I'm sorry. I cannot 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.640 just take your word on this. I need you to 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.440 tell me why. There's still a lot that I don't 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.280 know about Dad's disappearance, so that I don't know what 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.919 is there to know. I know it isn't satisfying, But 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.639 people go missing in Freetown forest all the time. Honey, 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.519 we got I'm lucky. But did he even go missing 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.800 in Freetown forest? What? My t A just dug up 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.560 an article that said he went miss singing? Howk him 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.280 up swamp? Jeremy, You know that local newspapers are hardly 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.560 the most reliable sorts for anything. Well when corroborated by 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.080 police files, I think they are. How would you have 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:16.960 access to the police files. You're already talking to her too. Mom. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.600 I know she's a bit of a kook, but she's 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:24.200 had useful insight. And I mean, after this week, I 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.560 think that there's a lot more than this than we thought. Jeremy, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.079 what are you hoping to do? It won't bring him back, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:35.680 you know that, right, that's not I I just think 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.440 a little I don't know, a little closure would be good. Well, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.440 I promise you you're not going to get closure by 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.200 talking to Anne Becker. Oh my god, you still have 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.120 not told me what your problem with her is. She 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.440 filled your father said, with all sorts of nuns, and 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.080 she pulled them into all her talk of that place 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.920 that giant dogs and snakes, cold floating lights. And now 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.600 now she's doing the same with you. No, she is not. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.160 I don't believe any of that crap, and you know it. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:08.160 But I do believe there's obviously something suspect about the 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:13.640 original case. Yes there is, Mom, I think that the 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.000 police were too quick to blame it on the popular 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.000 scapegoat of the moment. You don't think your father got 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.200 into trouble with the Satanic coat? No, I'm not saying that. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.520 All I'm saying is that there is someone out there 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.520 who knows what happened to him, and there is a 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.320 reason that his badge appeared now and I am going 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.120 to do what I always do and learn everything I 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.159 possibly can about it. And if it was a cult, 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.240 who knows, they might still be around and more people 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.200 could get hurt, and I don't want that to happen. Jerry, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:45.599 it is not your job. I'm sorry, Mom, I gotta go. Okay, 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:58.880 please please yeah, I will by wait wait, slow down. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.560 What did she say again? Giant dogs, cults, hipp and 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.520 I wasn't telling you about it because it's relevant. I 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:10.159 was actually just hoping to oh, oh, lights in the woods, right, yeah, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.400 but she was just talking. It doesn't actually mean anything. Well, 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:17.760 all information is useful information. I would like to think 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.320 that I've taught you better than that. I'll just say 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.479 at the stage, it's all useful. You know, we should 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.080 be learning everything. We can get a broad look and 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.320 then we can narrow down. The book is much further 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.560 along than that it was. But you're telling me finding 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:37.800 legitimate occult activity and hawk mock swamp your conversation would Celeste? 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.159 Those aren't reason enough to revisit some things not the 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.760 whole thesis. I was always going to do a chapter 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.520 on spiritual groups in the area, and I would just 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.560 have more information. But okay, you said you dug up 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.440 some more information on the gathering. Yeah, um, here it is. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.039 It actually seems like there's some other offshoots groups around 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.520 the country that believe in supernatural portals way to talk 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.239 to the other side, and according to the lore among 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.440 these groups, the gathering is old. Wait a minute, are 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:10.880 you saying these groups have their own internal lore. Yeah. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.200 They swapped information about potential locations where the veil is 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.440 thinnest and did discuss rituals to open it. You know, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.720 so on I've shared you and what we've compiled so far. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:30.440 We oh, um, yeah, Olivia, she's actually been helping me out. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.279 You know. Um, she's really she makes really good girl 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:39.080 cheeses and and she's really good at this stuff. Now, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.080 I know why you've been running off so quick after 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.359 class this week. I mean not that I'm you know, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.080 not good at research. I'm I'm very good at research. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:53.279 It's just, you know, she's a female perspective, you know, Vipen. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:58.880 You spent a lot of time in here with me. Um. Yes, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.479 that's kind of my job. No, I mean, I just 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.520 don't I don't hear you. I don't hear you talk 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.359 about your social life or whatever it is you do 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.840 outside of school. Well, doing a PhD is a full 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:18.000 time gig. I know. I'm just saying it's allowed, you know, 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.720 doing a degree and being passionate about your work and whatever, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.360 and having a life outside of those things. Spitballing here. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:29.520 But you can maybe have friends or hobbies, or or 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.000 maybe you could ask a smart girl out on a date. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:36.960 I can't believe we're having this conversation right now. Sorry, Like, 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.760 am I crossing a line. I spend most of my 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.120 weeknights and weekends with you for the past year. You 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.040 were just telling you about a conversation you had with 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.440 your mom. We've spent the past two weeks investigating your 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:54.080 dad's disappearance. I think we're at the stage where you 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:59.600 can ask me about my personal life. But when was 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.800 the last time you went on a date or did 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:08.920 anything but research and writing? You sound like my mom. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.760 I do plenty. I I I hike to take photos 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:18.200 for your book, okay, I travel to do research. I 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:23.760 make new friends often. Not Phil, He's another academic who's 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:29.040 so boring? And again it's just for research. Look, I'm 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:34.400 just saying, Kettle, you know you're right. Who am I 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.240 to tell you what to do? I guess I honestly 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:38.760 just see a lot of myself in you, and I 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.079 don't want you ending up like me. I'm going to 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.000 ask you this and let you know that this is 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:49.480 a safe space. But are you unhappy? No? No, it's 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.720 not that. It's just I know, I don't know. Actually, 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.520 never mind, It's just I see how much you care 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.480 about this subject and how people you want to find 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.040 something out, and you want to be the person to 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.239 find something out. I get it. It can be all consuming. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.960 Do you feel like it's consumed you? I feel like 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.760 I'm a boring academic and you should probably go hang 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.719 out with some people your age. All right, why don't 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:20.120 we say this today is Friday? If that calendar is correct, 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.760 Why don't you go play hockey for the rest of 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.400 the day and just go go go lit a life 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.520 or something. What are you going to do? Don't worry 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:34.240 about me. I am very exciting weekend plans. Ah, You're 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.360 going to meet up with Anne, aren't you? Yeah? I 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.599 am all right. Any developments I should know about. No, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.240 no developments. I I just can't believe how much I 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.280 let myself get swept up in this whole thing. It's 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:51.440 been good to get back to real life this week, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.839 but you're still spending your weekend with that. Yeah, we're 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.360 going to go talk to the police with that hiker 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.959 still missing. Um, I don't know. It's just been weighing 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.800 on my conscience, like I have to convince Anne that 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.720 we should tell the police about the gathering. Will you 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.280 think the two are related? I just think I can't. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.200 I can't take the chance. And besides, maybe the police 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.520 were able to share some information on celest Ha. There. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:25.720 It is not done with her yet, are you not quite? 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.080 So we agree this time I'll do all the talking. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.880 That is not exactly what I said. I know how 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.240 to talk to these people. I was one of them. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.720 I think that that is precisely why it's hard for 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.280 you to talk to these people, Professor Bradshaw, Miss Becker, 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:46.079 how can I help you? Officer Batista? You can't be here, 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:53.439 and yet here we are. You two are working together. Yes, Look, Batista, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.280 Jeremy told me about your girlfriend. Come on, let's take 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:03.959 this outside. Katie was at home with me last weekend. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.920 She wasn't in Hackamox swamp holding a knife. We are 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.679 not trying to accuse Katie of anything, not yet, at 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.160 least I wouldn't think she was there the other night anyway, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.360 because you said that she wasn't in the inner circle. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.760 And do you think this was the inner circle? They 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.800 were half a dozen of them, maybe mostly older, all 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.839 in white robes and armed. Not to mention the person 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.560 who was in the middle of it all, do you 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.960 recognize someone? Uh huh? A woman named Celeste Corey. She 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.120 was a member of the gathering in the seventies. I 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.320 interviewed her back then, Officer Batista. That's why we're here. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.480 I thought you were here to, you know, report cult activity. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.640 We need some files. You have all the old files, 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.200 don't you. I do. But Thomas and I weren't the 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.360 only people on the force who were looking into the gathering. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.680 And God only knows what Celeste has been up to 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.760 for the past forty years. You're asking me to give 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.920 you confidential information. Okay, come on, this is a suburban 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.360 police force, it's not the n s A. I think 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.480 what Anne is trying to say here is it. Anything 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.240 that you have on Celeste would be a huge help 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:11.000 to us. I'm sorry, I can't giving out information about 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.800 a private citizen. I could lose my job. Well, I'm sorry. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.520 I think dating occultist who lied to the police could 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:22.040 also put your job at risk. So I mean, you know, 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.000 there's no reason your captain needs to know that you're 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:30.880 talking to us or about Katie. Right, fine, good, thank you. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.440 You didn't see any violence, correct, There wasn't any animal 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:40.800 sacrifice or or utilation of anyone. No, no, uh. When 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:42.720 we went to see her, Celeste said that they were 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.559 using those knives for carving symbols into trees. M that 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.760 tracks you've noticed an upstick and vandalism of both the 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.840 swamp it. Wait, did you see you went to go 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.960 talk to her? Yes, on Monday. It was mostly a 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.520 waste of time, which is why we need at file. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.640 So after seeing a cult meeting involving in a legal 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.559 bonfire and several armed participants, you decided to go talk 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.720 to one of the perpetrators and then wait five more 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.480 days before coming to the police. I am the police, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.600 all due respect, miss Becker. No, you're not. You can't 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.800 just go harassing people if I'm going to risk my 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.720 job for you, then I need you. We weren't harassing anyone, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:26.360 so less talk to us willingly. Mr Bradshaw Captain. I 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:30.480 was just umh and a becker. What exactly are you 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.360 two doing here together? We were just they were asking 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.000 about the missing hiker. Yeah, that's right. I I've just 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.800 been concerned. Oh do you know Daniel? No? No, I 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.600 just um, Well, I I guess I feel a bit 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.920 beholden to him, seeing as he found my father's badge, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.880 and I just wish I could have thanked him. Oh, 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.439 there's still plenty of time for that. You found him, Yes, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.600 that's what I was about to tell you. It seems 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.520 you went back to hiking Freetown for Rest and got 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.559 lost for a couple of days. Is he all right? 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.760 He's a little banged up, dehydrated, you know, the usual 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.800 for lost hikers, but he'll be fine. What happened? Do 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.320 you mean? What happened? Kid? Didn't know where he was going, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.720 took a wrong turn and couldn't find his way out, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.920 and that's all. That's all. Well, I'm I'm glad to 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.480 hear that he's all right. Is there anything else we 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.280 can do for you no, thank you, Captain m hmm, 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.920 get back to work, ba Gista, I should really get going. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:52.760 Wait that hiker? What about him? Where can we find him? 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.120 This episode is sponsored by better Help Online Counseling. Life 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.480 isn't always easy. 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What do you mean storing a police 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.920 officer for information? I didn't think it hadn't didn't you. Hey, 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.320 that's not I did not do that. Oh what did 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.400 you think that was? Then? Listen, you were the one 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.680 that brought up Batista's girlfriend. I just wanted to tell 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.320 Captain Haddock about the gathering. I'm telling you that would 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.040 have been a mistake. We don't want to spook them. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.560 If the police get officially involved and start sniffing around 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.400 Celeste again, they'll close up shop again and we'll miss 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.840 our chance, miss our chance to what to find out 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.280 what the gathering is trying to do. Well, Celeste told 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.440 us they're trying to open the door to the other side. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.680 I'm actually just more interested in how would they think 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.400 they're going to do that? What if it's more than that? 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.080 What if they've already opened a door and they're trying 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.800 to let something out, and please no, I know you 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.119 don't believe me, but something is going on, Bradshaw. You 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.560 saw the symbols in the fire, You heard the voicemails 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.399 from your dad. That was not my father, that was 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.640 that was some kind of prank or something. I got 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:23.400 a third one last night and just listen. Olivia taught 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.639 me how to get it onto my phone. And I 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:41.520 really don't want a cool That wasn't my dad, Bradshaw, 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.800 how can you that wasn't him, and someone is messing 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.400 with you. I don't know who, I don't know why, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.119 but that was not my dad. How can you still 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.359 not believe that, maybe, just maybe there's something going on 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.000 here that you can't immediately wave away. How can you 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.359 be so quick to believe that that is my dad's voice? 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.399 You know, there is a reason that we believe in 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.120 these stories, these myths. There are brains way of filling 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.720 in the gaps. We find a meeting. We see a 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.359 cloud and we want to give it a shape that 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.440 we recognize, and a shadow will pass before our eyes, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:16.120 these very weak, very limited human eyes, and we call 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.800 it a ghost and then we hear a strange voice 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.800 in the woods, and we want desperately to believe that 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.960 it is the person that we want to hear from 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:28.159 the most. That's what we do as humans. Amen, on 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:32.840 a voicemail. What a strange voice on a voicemail? What 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:40.000 did I say? The woods? Oh? Yeah, on a voicemail, Jeremy, listen, 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:46.480 this is it. We're here. Well, I just want to 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:51.359 say we're really glad that you're all right. Uh yeah, yeah, thanks. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.520 What exactly happened to you? Daniel? You said you'd listen 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.480 to me, right, you won't make fun of me, of course, 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.000 not like we said, Daniel, were not the police. Yeah, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.119 but you used to be yes, And during my time 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.800 on the forest, I encountered a lot of things I 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.879 couldn't explain in the forest. And it seems like maybe 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.800 you did too. But if you didn't, that's okay too. 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:24.960 It's a big park and getting lost is it's completely understandable. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.680 you guys want some water or anything? I might I 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:33.359 might get some water. Uh yeah, of course, go ahead. Yeah, 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:39.000 we're okay, thank you? What are you doing? Excuse me? 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.080 And you can't leave him like that. We need to 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:43.760 hear what he went through, not some story that he 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.320 comes up with. Because you're suggesting that he encountered something supernatural. 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.400 I wasn't suggesting anything. Oh, come on, you were leading 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.520 him and you know it. Okay, who here has actually 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.280 questioned people before? And you're not the only one who 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.199 knows how to do an interview. I've talked to a 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.200 lot of people with lot of crazy stories, and all 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.000 that takes is a tiny little push to turn nothing 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:13.760 into something in someone's head. Sorry, am I just m 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.320 this is hard to talk about. Yeah, take your time. 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.240 We're here to listen to whatever you want to tell us. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:27.080 I did get lost, okay, just a little, and I 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:31.320 went back to the forest because something, something had been 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.840 bothering me about finding the badge. The badge? What do 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.720 you mean? I kept thinking about it, and I think 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.880 I think I saw something in the woods right before 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.680 I noticed the badge on the ground. What did you see? 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.880 Someone running away? Maybe couldn't have been an animal. No? No, 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:56.040 it was bright, white and tall and like like it 0:20:56.160 --> 0:21:01.159 was made of light. What kind of you didn't follow it? No? 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.199 I I stepped on something and I looked down to 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.359 see a police badge. I was freaked I ran right 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.400 back to my friend. And but that's why I went back. 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:16.240 I wanted to. I've been having these nightmares about being 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.919 lost in the woods and there's something following me and 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:25.639 a voice. What what's the voice saying? I thought if 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.600 that I went back into the forest during the day, 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:31.280 it would I don't know. I thought checking out the 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.480 spot where we found the badge, seeing it again would 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.760 would stop the nightmares. But I got turned around on 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.640 my way there, and and were you and your friend 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.840 hiking at night? What when you found the badge? You 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.840 said you wanted to go back during the day. The 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:53.960 dreams they're always at night. You're still having them. They're 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.800 different now since what happened, Daniel, when you got lost? 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:04.200 What happened? It got dark and my phone died. I mean, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.879 it's not like it had any service, but I've been 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.600 using it for a map and a flashlight. And then 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:15.360 I was just it was so dark. But then these 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:20.639 lights appeared. There were a few of them, round and 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:25.560 white and just hanging there in the air. Were they 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:30.439 doing anything else, like moving pulsing? No? No, not at first, 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:35.320 but but then then there was a voice. It was whispering, 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:41.879 e wa che excuse me, That's what it was saying. 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.520 E wa cho And did you recognize the voice? Did 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:51.760 it sound human? No? No, it didn't. The lights started 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:56.439 to move and I, I can't explain it. I wanted 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:01.000 to follow, so I did. It's all such a blur, 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.640 but I know, I know what I saw. I did 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:09.520 get lost, but that's not That's not why I went missing. Daniel, 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:14.359 what are you saying? I'm saying. I'm saying I was 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:29.840 abducted by aliens. Hey, Vippen did nothing in our conversation 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:33.119 last night's stick. It's the weekend. Why are you calling me? 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.440 What's up? Well, it's a bit of a funny story. Actually, 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.520 I've got one of those two. Actually, And and I 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.600 went to go see that hiker who was fine, by 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.680 the way, he was just fine. It was a couple 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.680 of days ago. Um, he's physically fine. He's pretty rattled. 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.359 But it ended up being a pretty interesting way to 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:56.520 spend a Friday afternoon, because, yep, I'm in a hawk 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:01.800 mock swamp. And why are you spending your Saturday morning 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.760 in a swamp? It didn't seem like a good idea 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.040 to come here in the middle of the night. Sipen Hey, 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:09.800 I wanted to see if I could find traces of 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.840 what the cults was doing last weekend pictures of the 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:18.840 carving CELESTI was talking about, and I, h I got 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:24.280 a little lost snippen. No, I'm fine, I'm fine, Really, 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.960 I just I just thought I was hoping you would 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.280 remember something about the clearing that they were in, you know, 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:35.080 how far into the swamp it was, any distinctive landmarks. Uh, 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.200 it was the middle of the night, and I was 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:42.280 a little distracted by that, you know, cults. But so 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:47.679 you have no idea where you were basically basically, yeah, sorry, 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.520 So have you found anything? Ah, it's hard to say. 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.600 I've seen some markings on trees, but I'm not sure 0:24:55.640 --> 0:25:01.600 they're carvings. They don't look distinctive enus. They almost look 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:08.399 like like like what hallmark? Really? Come on? What? What 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:12.359 could leave claw marks in the swamp? I have absolutely 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:21.040 no idea. Here's another one, Professor, It's enormous. It could 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:28.120 be woodpeckers maybe, or some kind of squirrel six clawed squirrel. Okay, 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:32.840 well probably not that then. Uh, well, maybe it is 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.280 a carving. It's just a symbol that the gathering uses 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:41.480 that we haven't seen yet maybe, Pippen. Yeah, sorry, I 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:48.880 m is really great beyond. Yeah, Hey, buddy, listen, why 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:50.800 don't you just work on getting out of there. I'll 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:52.320 stay with you on the phone and then you and 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.359 I can go back there on Monday after class. How 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.399 does that sound? Yeah? Yeah, that that sounds like a 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:09.040 good idea takes what? What was? What? Hear? What? That's how? Um? Pippen? 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:15.440 You're probably just here in the wind. Yeah yeah, Pippen. 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:28.879 PROFESSORI calls what There's something? Professor Pippin Sippen, will you 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:30.520 tell me? Do you see someone? Is there? Someone there? 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:49.119 Something else? Pippin Fippen, fipp In, God damn it. 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