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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Live, baby, Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: Yes? The boys?

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Speaker 3: Oh God give me, give me what believable? Oh my believable.

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Speaker 3: Play some games when surprizes. The top dog is out

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Speaker 3: there hand for Dixon between two and three, So get

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Speaker 3: out there now, crush those avocados from Perdue. Look at

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Speaker 3: the voice of God, give and what a move out

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Speaker 3: of him? What a power play?

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Speaker 2: What a power play from Gibbe.

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Speaker 4: Oh try and I feel like trying to seize control

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Speaker 4: back on a day that has really gotten away from him.

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Speaker 4: And Gibbe right now probably feels like he wishes he

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Speaker 4: was in Peru with those avocados. Because you could only

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Speaker 4: describe yesterday's you know, trial of Gibbe bearing in nithan

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Speaker 4: avalanche fix. You could only could describe the reaction to

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Speaker 4: that today to be an overwhelming outpouring of support for

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Speaker 4: all of us. It is an incredible display. JW is involved.

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Speaker 4: We're talking mimary luminaries, wondering au what has Gibbe done now?

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Speaker 4: Which I was an amazing tweet to brighten.

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Speaker 3: My morning, even with an angry emoji.

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Speaker 2: It's great. And then you're a getting browned.

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Speaker 4: Brown's Therapy's putting him out there making, you know, putting

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Speaker 4: JW into gifts and letting Gibbe see the light. The

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Speaker 4: hof Joe Thomas has said, just put up one thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars for the supplies and also make matching donations to

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Food Bank, Providence House of Cleveland and Brown's

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Speaker 4: give back plus the charity of choice from Gibbe and

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Speaker 4: you what about my church of gibb is the one

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Speaker 4: that's why I respond I said, I.

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Speaker 2: Think you got this wrong. I'll give you the light.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pro lite.

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Speaker 2: Prolite give me is the one. Gibb is the one

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Speaker 2: that's against it in the darkness. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: The CBD on air Light, which has its own Twitter account,

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Speaker 4: said that the trial of Gibbe versus the CBD on

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Speaker 4: airlight is going down on the mount rushmore of total takedowns.

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Speaker 2: Fact agreed, it's great. It's just all Brown.

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Speaker 4: Still, this is Brown's therapy waning. If I could state

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Speaker 4: their case, quote your honor. This is replying to j Dubbs.

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Speaker 4: The big Bees, Nathan and Bow need a non airlight

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Speaker 4: in order to better perform their job. Their boss, the

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Speaker 4: mean and grumpy Gibbet, refuses to provide one. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: the organization wants to provide the voices of the team

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Speaker 4: with what they need.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, I got to give BT a lot of credit.

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Speaker 3: Therapy got would into it and then away we go.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what That's what got the big l

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Speaker 3: into the middle of that. Amazing and then and then

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Speaker 3: that was just a powder kig that was that was

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Speaker 3: ignited at that point.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's just this is just a glorious, glorious, glorious.

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Speaker 2: Time to be alive. It is, I mean this, this

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Speaker 2: made my day.

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Speaker 4: And then Gibbe voice of guiding us onto the air today,

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Speaker 4: that was just.

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Speaker 3: Just what a power play, trying to get his trying

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Speaker 2: Right. He was not like he was going into that moment.

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Speaker 4: He was like the opposite of Larry David's care character

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Speaker 4: in the Martin Scorsese film, where he said I had

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Speaker 4: call yesterday, I'll call today, I'll have call tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Gibbe was call less call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no no call, but no call an attempt to resuscitate,

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Speaker 3: That's a good response.

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Speaker 2: He's there. I see him. He's lurking over UNO's shoulder

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Speaker 3: He's already catch a flight.

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Speaker 4: Well, Gibbe, get on here, talk to the people. What

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Speaker 4: He did give us a salute, he did give it.

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Speaker 4: If you saw that, the TK salute he gave us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't make me feel good.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, nor would.

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Speaker 4: It mean I think he was just signifying UNO's presence, like,

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Speaker 3: Who knows here, He'll take care of you from here boys,

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Speaker 3: that was quite the morning on the Social It was

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Speaker 3: really quite fun. And then the halfwaying in on it

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Speaker 3: late it's is just such a wind out of the Hoff. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm curious if the Hoff heard the conversation, because I

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Speaker 3: we crowdsourced the grand the cool g that.

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Speaker 2: We would then NAT Charity Absolute charity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we would do that. So I'm curious how the

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Speaker 3: Hoff has been plugged into this entire debate through these

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Speaker 3: low these twenty four hours. But you'll the fact that

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Speaker 3: he's in is.

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Speaker 4: You'll remember the Hoff was in studio when we laid

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Speaker 4: out to him how Gibe often tries to sabotage us,

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Speaker 4: yeah and the program, and he was befuddled and then

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Speaker 4: quickly had that really saw that moment like in a

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Speaker 4: movie or in a cartoon, if we're Saturday morning cartoons,

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Speaker 4: as kids of our generation, a light bulb would have

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Speaker 4: gone off above his head. It had been like going

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Speaker 4: through there's been a montage of all the things that

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Speaker 4: Hoff had actually seen and heard about in a row.

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Speaker 2: And then he would say, you're right.

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Speaker 4: And so I think he knows the saboteur is is

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Speaker 4: acting again, and he wants to put an end to it.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, he wants to turn This is

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Speaker 4: what I love about the Hoff. He wants to turn

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Speaker 4: as did we quite frankly a negative into a positive

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. The only thing I would say is

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Speaker 3: I don't know that we need you installing it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to install it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like Hoff said, if you install it, I have

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Speaker 3: no interes.

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Speaker 2: We don't need you doing that.

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Speaker 3: You have plenty of You're a man of many talents electrician,

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Speaker 4: Not one we can Maybe that's a stipulation, Maybe he

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Speaker 4: I feel like what he's really saying is if Gibbe

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Speaker 4: installs the light, that's what I think he needs to

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Speaker 4: flop Gibbe and me my charity of choice, not Gibbe,

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Speaker 4: Gibe and give install.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think so too. I think that's the little

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Speaker 3: bit of a disconnect.

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Speaker 2: There we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it in

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Speaker 2: Kansas City the Hoff.

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Speaker 3: All right, get to the bottom of that with the Hoff.

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Speaker 3: When you're down there speaking of Kansas City, Josh Jobs

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Speaker 3: will not be making that trip. Wild wild, pretty pretty

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Speaker 3: surprising history afternoon, after we had gotten off the air,

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Speaker 3: you will recall, which is kind of typical, You will

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Speaker 3: recall that you will recall that Kevin Stefanski spoke before

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Speaker 3: our show and said that Dobbs would be the number

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Speaker 3: two in Kansas City this weekend. As it turns out,

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Speaker 3: not so much. Dobbs and a twenty twenty four seventh

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Speaker 3: And so, look, there's a lot to this. The number

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Speaker 3: one thing is that everything that you are seeing from

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Speaker 3: quite real, and they're willing to if there is an injury,

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Speaker 3: hand the keys to this football Ferrari off to a

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: That's the big takeaway Number one. Number two, apparently word

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Speaker 4: out Arizona's that Colt McCoy has really been struggling guess

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Speaker 4: who the offensive coordinator is in Arizona. Drew Petsing been

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Speaker 4: with the Browns quarterback coach, tight end coach, all of it.

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Speaker 4: So he gets Dobbs, who will understand his system there,

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Speaker 4: gets him down there. The other part of it to

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Speaker 4: but we gave away a twenty twenty four to fifth

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Speaker 4: totality now of these two moves, we just replaced that fit.

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Speaker 4: So we really traded Josh Dobbs and a twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which win. Much as you love Josh Dobbs, that's

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Speaker 3: a win, yes, And it's great.

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Speaker 2: For Josh Obbs. He's going to get a chance to play.

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonnaet a chance to play in Arizona,

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Speaker 4: which I'm happy about for him.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately for him, he's going to a team that is

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Speaker 3: very clearly tanking.

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Speaker 2: You can't play.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he can play. I'm happy for him to

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Speaker 3: get to play, sure, but it's going to be pretty

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Speaker 2: There, could be tough at times, no doubt left Tad

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Speaker 2: he traded. Yesterday's going to be living.

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Speaker 3: In scott Let's say good weather, yeah, very good weather

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Speaker 3: he'll have, although it's been brutal this summer. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you saw that one hundred and ten like for.

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Speaker 2: Thirty dry heat, bo dry heat. Looks like that might

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Speaker 2: be the breaking new Mexico. Baby, come on it.

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Speaker 3: That's really where it's. It's taws.

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Speaker 4: That's where it used to be Arizona. Now it's Mexico.

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Speaker 4: Avocados used to come from other places. Now they come

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Speaker 4: from Peru. This is that revolution of things.

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Speaker 3: Get out there to that Meyern seven Hills between now

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Speaker 3: and three and register of your chance to win that

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three four lightning electric truck. The top dog

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Speaker 3: will be there from two to three, presented by avocados

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Speaker 3: from Mexico. All right, let's do the DTR conversation.

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Speaker 2: Now avocados from Peru. That's right, that's what I said, Yes, exactly, indeed, let's.

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Speaker 3: Go, let's do the let's do the DTR conversation. Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, fifth round pick, that's right. Drafted liked what

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Speaker 3: we saw yeah in camp and then all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden it's showed up in the game. I mean it

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Speaker 3: was immediate, I mean Hall of Fame game, immediate.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: But it's one of those things where as we've said

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Speaker 3: so many times, like there's no margin here in the AFC,

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Speaker 3: there's there is, This isn't all in franchise at the moment.

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Speaker 3: There is some risk here, but obviously they feel quite

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Speaker 3: comfortable with what DTR could do provided there were something

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Speaker 3: worst case scenario happened with the Shawn where he gets

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Speaker 3: They're in play because they knew what Josh Dobbs was,

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Speaker 3: They know he's study, they know that he could handle it.

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Speaker 3: He's done it. Now that will go to a guy

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Speaker 3: who hasn't done it. There is some risk with that.

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Speaker 3: It can't be acted like there's not.

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Speaker 4: Of course, because we've never seen him play a National

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Speaker 4: Football League game. Right now, DTR in the preseason thirty

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Browns were actively looking to move

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that there's also I think you're

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Speaker 4: Yes, and you're gonna you need another arm to get

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Speaker 2: So I think what this means.

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Speaker 4: Is that in all of our fifty three man calculations,

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Speaker 4: This could be a returner for jackiem Grant. This could

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Speaker 2: A lot of ways that that could go.

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Speaker 4: Because I believe now the Browns will keep two quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: It's huge in that regard. Yes, it makes decisions that

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Speaker 3: So that helps, right, So that's number one. You control

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Speaker 2: Maybe.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hell, we talked about this in the draft.

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Speaker 3: It's a home run to get a quarterback who's played

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Speaker 4: No, And you think about the Browns have had to

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Speaker 4: it's it is big because again it's planning for not

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Speaker 3: Someone I was talking this morning about this and we

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Speaker 3: He went six of seventeen in the game. What I

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Speaker 2: It's preseason, my friend. Let's settle down, buddy, preseason.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring it back a notch. But the reason I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it's one of those things when you

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Speaker 3: they don't make this deal. So that tells you the

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Speaker 3: confidence they have in him.

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Speaker 4: And part of it, I think honestly, was, you know,

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Speaker 4: Dobbs had a little bit of a rough camp. He

439
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Speaker 4: did is a little rough preseason.

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Speaker 3: But don't you think I mean, he's still known.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, he is known.

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Speaker 4: But I think that is that is both in the

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Speaker 4: case of Josh Dobbs and what the Browns evaluation. That's

444
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Speaker 4: both a negative and a positive, right sure, Like the

445
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Speaker 4: positive is he's known, he knows our system, we know

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Speaker 4: what he can do. The negatives, we also know what

447
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Speaker 4: he can do in terms of the upper limits on that.

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Speaker 4: You know last year in the two games he started

449
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Speaker 4: with Tennessee, fifty nine percent completions, four hundred and eleven yards,

450
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Speaker 4: two touchdowns, three picks of seventy three rating. So I

451
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Speaker 4: think what they've seen is we feel like we can

452
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Speaker 4: get perhaps that level out of dtr and maybe even

453
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Speaker 4: some more, and now we're able to get a little

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Speaker 4: bit of an asset. I think Josh Dobbs is going

455
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Speaker 4: to be in this league for a long time, and

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Speaker 4: I'm thrilled for him. He's gonna get a chance to

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Speaker 4: play because again, those are the only two games he's

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Speaker 4: ever played in his NFL career, even though he was

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Speaker 4: drafted in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: M So for him, I think playing helps.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, right, Like, for sure, I think it'll be a

462
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Speaker 4: good thing for him in his career as well, and

463
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Speaker 4: I certainly wish him, you know, nothing but the best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's gonna be fascinating, Like Arizona's

465
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Speaker 3: clearly setting themselves up to pick first and second. So

466
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Speaker 3: the other thing to watch for on this is remember

467
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Speaker 3: they have Houston's pick. The other thing to watch for

468
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Speaker 3: on this is at some point does Kyler become available

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Speaker 3: when you think big picture league, Like he's probably available now,

470
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Speaker 3: but they probably won't try to move him until later on.

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Speaker 3: Like him in Atlanta makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, then they become a very serious franchise overnight for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, him in that system, with that run game

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Speaker 3: with Bijon and yeah, that's the question. Seems like a

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Speaker 3: home run.

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Speaker 4: That would be an interesting case study because Arthur Smith

477
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Speaker 4: is runs a Obviously it's a run oriented under center.

478
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Speaker 4: Obviously you would do some pistol like he did with Mariota,

479
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Speaker 4: but that's an offense. That is predicated on much like

480
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Speaker 4: you know what the offense we ran for Baker and

481
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Speaker 4: Jacoby Bris said here, that's predicated on or Kyle does

482
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Speaker 4: with Brock Purdy.

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Speaker 2: That's predicated on.

484
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Speaker 4: Timing all being correct, not freelancing reading this and the ball.

485
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Speaker 4: You know, the offense, you know, the coverage and the

486
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Speaker 4: play call and the coverage are going to tell you

487
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Speaker 4: where the ball is supposed to go. And Kyler Murray's

488
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Speaker 4: been at his best in this league much more as

489
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Speaker 4: a freelancer rather than a fitting into a system like that.

490
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Speaker 4: And obviously if he's able to do that, plus his athleticism,

491
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Speaker 4: they could be very, very dangerous.

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Speaker 3: It's just that that's the one that makes the most

493
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Speaker 3: sense for me. Agreed with his talent and the fact

494
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Speaker 3: that they've you know, they've tried to a lot to

495
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Speaker 3: try to find a guy to be the guy there,

496
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Speaker 3: and they kind of have everything else. They're pretty good

497
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Speaker 3: everywhere else, they just don't have that sorted out. And

498
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Speaker 3: I could see Blank, who's never been shy about spending, saying, hey,

499
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Speaker 3: we got a chance to get a guy who could

500
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Speaker 3: proven that he can be dynamic in this league. Form

501
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Speaker 3: a number one overall pick. The deal's already done from

502
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Speaker 3: in terms of paying him, kind of a.

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Speaker 2: No brainer, agreed.

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Speaker 4: And I would even I would even suggest that Tampa

505
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Speaker 4: if Tampa feels like, hey, maybe we're not going to

506
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Speaker 4: go bottoms out and trade everybody, because now there's reports

507
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Speaker 4: that like they won't be trading Mike Evans. I had

508
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Speaker 4: read that the other day, So maybe that now, like,

509
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Speaker 4: really that's a team. I agree, I agree with you, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but that's.

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Speaker 3: It's those two NFC South teams though. That's the that's

512
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Speaker 3: the spot.

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Speaker 4: Listen, they want to send him to the to the AFC.

514
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Speaker 4: You know, Tennessee Titans, Vegas Raiders, Vegas.

515
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Speaker 3: Vegas would make sense, you know, on a reset. I

516
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Speaker 3: don't know how a McDaniel if he would be someone

517
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Speaker 3: to pull the trigger on that. He's the one pulling

518
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Speaker 3: the strings there now, right, so you know, I don't

519
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Speaker 3: know that he would have that, but yeah, I mean

520
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Speaker 3: they they would certainly check a box. It's it's probably

521
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Speaker 3: just Vegas. Yeah, in the AFC, is probably just Vegas, right.

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Speaker 4: I could see though, in the sense of Tennessee not

523
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Speaker 4: wanting I think Tennessee is going to be in that

524
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Speaker 4: problem of being too good. Sure, to pick first and

525
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Speaker 4: not good enough to do anything of consequence, and so

526
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Speaker 4: you take Tannehill's era is going to be is over.

527
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Speaker 4: It's coming to its conclusion. Yeah, but they drafted that

528
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Speaker 4: kid in the first round though, right or at the

529
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Speaker 4: end of the.

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Speaker 3: Early sie the kid from Kentucky second round.

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Speaker 2: Second Rod will Levis. That's Will Levis.

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Speaker 3: So they've draft because the Malik Willis was like a

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Speaker 3: third rounder two years ago and then Levis is a

534
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Speaker 3: second rounder this year.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I think Vegas actually would be an in because Timmy

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Speaker 4: Grappolo is not a long term No.

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Speaker 3: I think the pecking order would be that, you know,

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Speaker 3: from a from a team perspective, it would be Falcons

540
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Speaker 3: to me is the one Bucks and then Raiders below.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, Atlanta feels like, of.

543
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Speaker 4: Course Atlanta and play Atlanta feels like if they had

544
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Speaker 4: Atlanta feels to me like if they had Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 4: They're the favorites to win the NFC South.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with that.

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Speaker 4: So that feels like a just get them and they've

548
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Speaker 4: been very interesting quarterbacks. It just doesn't feel like, you know,

549
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Speaker 4: Desmond Ritter is ready to be that guy.

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Speaker 3: No, No, no, it doesn't. The team had the final

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Speaker 3: walk through today before heading off to Kansas City to

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Speaker 2: None? There are none, none, there are, folks.

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Speaker 3: Just so you're aware, this is the way that I

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Speaker 3: thought it was trending yesterday, and it feels like it's

595
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Speaker 3: now been locked in that Kansas. He's not playing anybody.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's that's the expectation is the Chiefs aren't playing

597
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Speaker 4: their starters, so there aren't matchups to watch. So now

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Speaker 4: I think what we really get into are, you know,

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Speaker 4: position battles and things that we at home might want

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Speaker 4: to be watching in this game. And obviously it starts

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Speaker 4: with your starters coming out, the ones that do play,

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Speaker 4: just coming out and looking good. Right, easy, go out there,

603
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Speaker 4: look good, be better than the Chiefs twos. I feel

604
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Speaker 4: like that is not a high bar, and that's what

605
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Speaker 4: you want to see. I would say, you know, room

606
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Speaker 4: by room in the running back room will start there

607
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: because quarterback room's decided. Jordan Wilkins getting to start career

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Speaker 4: two hundred eight carries thousand and nine yards, four touchdowns,

609
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Speaker 4: forty one catches two hundred and sixty two.

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Speaker 2: Yards out of the backfield.

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to get a real opportunity with

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Speaker 4: the ones, and I think that he's the one guy

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Speaker 4: on this roster. You know, I still think they like

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Speaker 4: Demetric Felton. He's in that battle for the third running

615
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Speaker 4: back and He's led the team with one hundred and

616
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Speaker 4: thirteen yards rushing in the preseason. Five yards of carry

617
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Speaker 4: is also a rush for a touchdown in that Hall

618
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Speaker 4: of Fame game. But Jordan Wilkins feels like the guy

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Speaker 4: to me because of his ability to run it, catch it,

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Speaker 4: and pass protect. Plus you know, we don't have anybody

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Speaker 4: else on our roster that has more than one hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty five yards rushing in their career besides Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a running back, we probably do.

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Speaker 4: As a receiver, I bet if we add up some

625
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: receiving totals there, but are rushing totals for receivers, He's

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Speaker 4: an interesting one to me. So that's something I'll really

627
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Speaker 4: be be looking at.

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Speaker 3: He has a chance to be like on the roster

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Speaker 3: all year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he does right.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, he's looked great. Yeah, he had

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Speaker 3: some bursts. I mean even in the practice. It's the

633
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Speaker 3: one practice was open this week on Monday. He just handed.

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Speaker 3: He's got a little burst to him, man.

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Speaker 2: He does. He's got a little juice to him.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you had average five yards of carry for two

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Speaker 4: hundred plus carries in the NFL, Like, yeah, you can

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Speaker 4: run and I think we saw that kind of power

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Speaker 4: as well on display there against Philadelphia. I think it

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Speaker 4: down to, you know, for guys that are currently here,

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Speaker 4: Wilkins and Felton is kind of how it feels to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the question will be, do we, you know, still look

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Speaker 4: outside there? Does de Ernest Johnson become available in Jacksonville?

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Speaker 4: Does Michael Carter become available with the Jets? Although it

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Speaker 4: feels like that is becoming increasingly unlikely that they may

646
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Speaker 4: carry four running backs there including Ebana Kanda, Dalvin Cook, Carter,

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Speaker 4: and Breese Hall. So you know, Philly though Philly's gonna

648
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Speaker 4: have to cancel a running back cut a running back.

649
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Speaker 4: So we know that that's another team to look. But

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Speaker 4: that's of the guys on the roster, I think it's

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Speaker 4: down to Wilkins and Felton, and I think Wilkins is

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Speaker 4: the one that has a chance, to your point, to

653
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Speaker 4: be on the roster like full season, whereas with it

654
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Speaker 4: with a lot out, a lot of threat there wide receiver.

655
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: You know, we know who four of them are, Amari Cooper,

656
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: Donovan Peoples, Jones, Elijah More, Cedric Tillman. Beyond that, I

657
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: don't know what we know now does the number change.

658
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't know that you'd go to seven at receiver,

659
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: but I suppose it becomes.

660
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: Possible because of the Dobs trade. Does it because of

661
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: the number it change? We've always said six, sometimes we

662
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: even I mean there were times we thought maybe even

663
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: We never went to five that I remember, but it

664
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: was always six.

665
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: So Marquise Goodwin is a wild card. If he is

666
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 4: good to go, he makes this roster. If he is

667
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: not imminent, I believe it is imminent. I believe it

668
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 4: will be soon. Okay, Then you have Jaquem Grant, who,

669
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: you know, when we talked about yesterday, like you're not

670
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: building the best roster for one game, you're building the

671
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: best roster for a season.

672
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: But do they think Jaquem Grant in his role is

673
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: all the way back?

674
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: This is a guy who had a kick returner or

675
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: a punt return touchdown in four straight seasons, who was.

676
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: An All Pro Pro bowler, all of it.

677
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: You know what, does he see him tomorrow?

678
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: We will see him tomorrow and I think that will

679
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: be that's absolutely something to watch. Does he look like

680
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: a guy that's got you know, what he used to have?

681
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: And because if so, you feel like he's in, So

682
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: then where does that leave David Bell?

683
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: And I think he's in a battle to make it.

684
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: You know, you think about last year's rookie year twenty

685
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: four catches two hundred and fourteen yards, so about nine

686
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: yards of catch preseason. This year six for forty six,

687
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: seven point seven yards of catch and a touchdown.

688
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: And then there's Austin Watkins.

689
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: And in my notes, I'm looking at my board right now,

690
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 4: he's done everything to make it.

691
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: He's done everything to make it.

692
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: Leads the NFL fifteen catches, two hundred and forty five yards,

693
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: two touchdowns this preseason. He's been unbelievable. The question is

694
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: is there a spot for him? And you know, if

695
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 4: Goodwin's healthy, I think that the answer to that is

696
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: probably no. If Goodwin is not healthy, then I think

697
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: it's possible, But then they would be facing a very

698
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: difficult decision of cutting, you know, a third round pick.

699
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: From a year ago.

700
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: And in the old days, the old days not so

701
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: much anymore, but it is true. In the old days,

702
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: it was like it often took a receiver kind of

703
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 4: like to their third season to really get it coming

704
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: out of college, to be able to play fast and

705
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: play to their what they showed in their college shame.

706
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: Now that is not the case anymore, typically speaking. But

707
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: there's a reason they like David Bell. There's a reason

708
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: David Bell dominated in college and was, you know, one

709
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: of the best players.

710
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: It's those history ten. Yeah, yeah, he's very good.

711
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: So I think that's a tough one tight end. Nadjoku

712
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: Aikens locks. I think Harrison Brian as long as he's

713
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: good to go, he will be on the team as well,

714
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: and that'll give you, you know, your three tight ends there.

715
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: And then offensively, the last thing you're going to be

716
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: watching is the offensive line. And I think we know

717
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: our five starters are set. I think James Hudson, Dwan

718
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: Jones are set on this roster. I think that right now,

719
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: Nick Harrison, Luke Whippler are set on this roster. And

720
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: the question is do you keep a tenth? And if so,

721
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: you know, does Michael Dunn is he the tenth is

722
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: Drew Forbes the tenth. We just haven't seen him from

723
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: the back injury. I did get a chance to run

724
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: into him and he's optimistic that he'll be able to

725
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: be back soon. And then oors Ty wrote, do you

726
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: keep ty Ron Wheatley because he has he's more likely

727
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 4: to leave via cuts and get claim to a fifty three.

728
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: Whereas if you like dun Forbes, Gossip and Wes Martin

729
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 4: all kind of in the same stratosphere, Like you're gonna

730
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: get a couple of those guys to your practice squad.

731
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: They're not all getting signed to other fifty threes, you know.

732
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: And then if you're thinking about more trades, you know,

733
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: has Luke Whippler, Has Luke Whippler made you feel so

734
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: comfortable that you know somebody's gonna call on Nick Harris

735
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 4: because he's quite frankly been sensational this preseason, and and

736
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski's raving about him.

737
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: Bill Callian's raving about him. That's the This is the grouping.

738
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: This this offensive line, Like if you are going to

739
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: trade from a position of strength, this is it because

740
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: we don't need we're too deep. It's a good problem

741
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: to have. But like, they're gonna be people who don't

742
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: make this fifty three who can start in the league. Yeah,

743
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: and so you had we're gonna have some of these

744
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: cats that you're gonna talk about putting on the practice squad.

745
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: They've proven that they are starters in the league, that

746
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: they can do it. So you have an ability here

747
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: if you're trying to take advantage of somebody else's cap

748
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 3: issues or numbers issues, this would be the position to deal.

749
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 4: From Yes, yes's and that's where it could help you.

750
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: Like we said in the running back room, that's the

751
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: spot where that could potentially help you out as well.

752
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: You know.

753
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: There we have way more than ten guys who are

754
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: fifty three quality, So how that ends up, you know,

755
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: playing out, that's what we'll watch.

756
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: Flip it around.

757
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: The defensive side feels like at this point you know

758
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: your defensive ends will be Garrett o'kuran Quosa, Darius Smith,

759
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 4: Alex Wright, and Isaiah Maguire keeping five on the initial

760
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: fifty three with Right being injured, although he started to

761
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: be starting to see him back around the facility, so

762
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: hopefully his return is imminent. And then in the interior

763
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: Dalvin Tomlinson, Shelby Harris, you know, Siaki Eka those three

764
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: are locks, and then the questions because is.

765
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: A lock to me? Just even that comment from Shelby yesterday,

766
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, does it feel like Jordan's right?

767
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: I mean, he's played every preseason game. Yeah, he's played

768
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: in every single one of them, even ones that the

769
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: quote unquote starters were not playing it. Yeah, he's played

770
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: in all of them. He's played thirty six snaps so far.

771
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: He does not have a single stat. He doesn't have

772
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: a pressure, he doesn't have a tackle, he doesn't have anything. Meanwhile,

773
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: Maurice Hurst has one and a half sacks. He's got

774
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: to tackle for loss, He's got four pressures, he's got

775
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: five tackles. Tommy Togy is playing very well as well.

776
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 4: He's got one and a half sacks right so far,

777
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: He's got to tackle for loss, a pass defense to

778
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: and four tackles. So he has been Elliot has been

779
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: the least productive of that bunch. Now they restructured his

780
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: contract in a way where he's gonna make some money.

781
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: Does he get to you know, does that get him

782
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: on the roster? I don't know. Does this become a

783
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: spot where okay, now, because we have that luxury of

784
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: the extra player that you keep five defensive tackles.

785
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

786
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: This would be a room that would where that would

787
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: make some sense. You go to the second level, you

788
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: go to the linebackers. You know, I think Ousu Coromoa

789
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 4: Kunashikar locks. I think if Anthony Walker and si Ony

790
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 4: Taki Taki can demonstrate that they're physically back, I think

791
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: their locks.

792
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 2: So that's four.

793
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: You got two spots I think for Tony Fields, Ma

794
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: mood Dia Body.

795
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: And Matthew Adams.

796
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: Later in the program, you visited with Hey, you're gonna

797
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 4: like this intense intense uh So I think, you know,

798
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 4: Adams was one of the first people that Bubba Ventrone

799
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: really wanted brought into our program. I think how he

800
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: performs at linebackers something they'll watch because they don't really

801
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: want to have guys who are just special teams guys.

802
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: They want guys who are great special teams but also

803
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: can play their position if called upon. You know, two

804
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 4: years ago, Adams was Pro Football Folks, his top rated

805
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: special teams player. He was with Bubba in Indianapolis for

806
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: a while. So you feel like, maybe does it really

807
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: is it really coming down to Fields in diabaate for

808
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: that final spot, and Fields, a fifth round pick two

809
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: years ago, had a career year last year with forty

810
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: eight tackles. He had that pick six against Houston. But

811
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: Diabodi's shown something, man, I mean he's he's shown something.

812
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: So that's kind of what to watch there in that

813
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: linebacker room. And then on the back end, you know

814
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 4: Denzel Greg mj aj.

815
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: I think their locks.

816
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 4: I think Cam Mitchell is a lock that they drafted

817
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: out of Northwestern. They really like him a lot. I

818
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: don't know if we'll seem against Kannady. He's been nursing

819
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: a shoulder, but all good for the regular season. And

820
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 4: then the question is now do they keep a sixth guy,

821
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 4: And if so, it's probably Mike Ford, who can play

822
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: some corner but really is a special teams ace. That's

823
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: what he's done for his career. And so that's again

824
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: where that extra spot comes from.

825
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: MC.

826
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: Now you have the ability to keep if you want

827
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 4: at eleven potentially, because I think it's safety Thornhill, Delpit,

828
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 4: McCleod locks. And I think Ronnie Hickman has played his

829
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 4: way on this team. And I think the Anthony Bell's

830
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: on this team.

831
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw you heard Bubba with Joe talk about

832
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: d Anthony Bell as a stud, special team stud. So

833
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 3: there's yes with Joe Hayden, so I mean there's he

834
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: he named him by name, so that that seems to

835
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: be when that sort of thing happens, I think you

836
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: pay attention to the scores and understand the importance.

837
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just feels like he's on the team

838
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: because not only he's A he's a young guy. B.

839
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: They like him as a safety, and then he's also

840
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: a plus plus special teams player.

841
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: So I always thought Hickman.

842
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: For a while, I was under the impression that it

843
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: was Hickman ord Anthony Bell for that four spot. And

844
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 4: when I kind of, you know, talk to some people

845
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 4: who would be in the know, it kind of became, Okay,

846
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: we're seeing if do we carry five safeties, and then

847
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: if so, how does that affect what else we do?

848
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 4: And then Hickman, you know, he leads the NFL and

849
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: preseason picks. We have the NFL's leader in the preseason

850
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 4: and interceptions, passing yards, receiving yards, receptions, probably.

851
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: Right tackle play as well.

852
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: Right to that, no doubt. Here's the air of the

853
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: numbers on Dwan Jones.

854
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: Dwan Jones, by the way, is not allowed to sack

855
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: since November of twenty twenty one, because he did not

856
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: allow one in the entire twenty twenty two season at

857
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: Ohio State. He has allowed just two pressures on one

858
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: hundred pass blocking snaps this year, the only one of

859
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: the best rates in the entire league. And frankly, nobody's

860
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: seen as many pass rushing snaps as him and not

861
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 4: allowed to sack.

862
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: And then Luke.

863
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: Whippler has only allowed one pressure on ninety two pass

864
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 4: blocking snaps this preseason at bull center and guard, which

865
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: he had never played before.

866
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: He had never played right, I never played guard. He

867
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: somehow did that as a quick aside, I do think

868
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: as you. And then of course the other thing to

869
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Speaker 3: watch will be Kate, go make your field goals. And

870
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Speaker 3: that's in a way we go, yes, that's that's at

871
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: the top of it. You mentioned Big Thanos, and you

872
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: mentioned Luke Whipler, and we mentioned Ronnie Hickman. Those guys

873
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: obviously were all on Ohio State a year ago. I

874
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 3: just saw mocked draft this morning. Five Buckeyes projected to

875
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Speaker 3: go in the first round next year. I think as

876
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: time goes away, that loss to Georgia and even more

877
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Speaker 3: so the lost in Michigan is just going to be

878
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 3: so damn painful because they had the team last year

879
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: to win the national title, like that was the team.

880
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: Now they may have it again this year, but they

881
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: don't have the quarterback. Last year they had the quarterback,

882
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: and they had all of this stuff too, And it's like,

883
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you had two NFL starting tackles, an NFL

884
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: caliber starting center, both your guards were good, two first

885
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: round picks at defensive end who are going to be

886
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: first rounders next year. There just was no re plus.

887
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior, I don't know. He seems like he'd

888
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: be pretty good. So yeah, there's a lot with that

889
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: and that talent starting to shine out a little bit.

890
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 4: All right, And maybe I'm misremembering this, But didn't Jackson

891
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: Smith and Jig but not play at the end.

892
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jig But didn't play the season, hurt

893
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: his hamstring, tried to come back once, aggravate it and

894
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 3: was done for the year. Marvin Harrison Junior gets hurt

895
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: on a targeting call in the third quarter of the game.

896
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: Kate Stover didn't play in the game. Trevion Henderson didn't

897
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: play in the game. Ian Williams didn't play in the game.

898
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Speaker 3: It's not like they blew it. From the standpoint of

899
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Speaker 3: like you had all that you had at your disposal,

900
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 3: you could you they didn't have their five best offensive players. Yeah,

901
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: you know against Georgia is the way that it kind

902
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: of ended up shaking out. But they still had an

903
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: opportunity to win it. All Right, We're gonna check in

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Speaker 3: We're a little more than a week before the start

924
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Speaker 3: of the season, and I was kind of just taking

925
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Speaker 3: a look at the AFC North at large, and obviously

926
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Speaker 3: it was the AFC Central when you played in it.

927
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Speaker 3: I think you could make an argument it's as good

928
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Speaker 3: now that this is the best it's been since maybe

929
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Speaker 3: when you played in the late eighties. Have you taken

930
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Speaker 3: a look at that and compared the two guys.

931
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Speaker 5: I agree with you.

932
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 6: I think it's the strongest division in football right now

933
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 6: because just like you said, when you look at it,

934
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Speaker 6: I mean obviously when I played, You're right, it was

935
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Speaker 6: the FC Central. Now it's the FC North. You got Pittsburgh.

936
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Speaker 6: No one thought that even though Mike, you know, the coach,

937
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 6: he's every single year he's right there, never had a

938
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Speaker 6: losing season, But who the picket. Their quarterback will be

939
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Speaker 6: playing as well as he's.

940
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Speaker 2: Playing right now.

941
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Speaker 6: Then you got Baltimore, I mean Lamar Jackson. You know,

942
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 6: I was talking to Ozzi yesterday, and they've surrounded him

943
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 6: with some really really good weapons. And the most important

944
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 6: thing about that is he has happen. Right now, we

945
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 6: all know he's got a new contract, and obviously we

946
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 6: got the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe Burrow. I mean, you know,

947
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 6: I don't want to sound selfish, but I want Joe

948
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 6: Burrow to be okay. But I don't want him to

949
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 6: be okay for the first game when we play them

950
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 6: in Cleveland. But you exactly right, the NCY North, there's

951
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 6: a strong, strong division and it's possibly every team in

952
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 6: the NC North could possibly make the playoffs.

953
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is possible.

954
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: Handfer that would be. That would be something. It's going

955
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: to be a competitive division. You know, we were together

956
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 4: the other night talking kind of about this team, and

957
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: one of the things.

958
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: That we expect to be a strength is Jim Schwartz's defense.

959
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: You know, you got the guys up front, Miles Garrett's

960
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: and Darius Smith, Obo's here now Shelby Harris Dalvin Thomlinson.

961
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Speaker 4: They remade that defensive line and then he talented cornerback.

962
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Speaker 4: So two things, let's start with the first, if you

963
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 4: had Miles and Zadarius up there, in front of you.

964
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Speaker 2: How many picks you have Hanford?

965
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Speaker 6: Hey, Nathan, I'm telling you, man, it's just crazy, especially

966
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Speaker 6: with Miles Garrett, because you know when I've played and

967
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 6: I go back and I talk about when I played

968
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Speaker 6: a lot, we had the great Chip Banks and also

969
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 6: Play Matthews, two outside linebackers. Yes, but we didn't have

970
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 6: those dominant, dominant defensive linemen like we have now. And

971
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Speaker 6: I just think down with Miles Garrett and then you

972
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 6: talk about Zadarius. I mean, those two guys, you talk

973
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 6: about habit that they're gonna put on the quarterback and

974
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 6: I always say it, and I still say it today.

975
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Speaker 6: I don't care who the quarterback is, whether it's Joe Burrows, well,

976
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Speaker 6: it's Lamar Jackson picking whoever it is. When you have

977
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 6: those guys up from that we have and when they

978
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 6: can put pressure on the quarterback, I'm telling you it

979
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 6: would turn him into an average quarterback. And I expect

980
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 6: those guys to make those guys in the second life

981
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Speaker 6: a lot easier.

982
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Speaker 2: Agreed.

983
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: And speaking of those guys in the secondary, you know

984
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: last year we were the number one team in the

985
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: league when we played man, but we played a lot

986
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: of zone. This year, we're gonna play a lot more

987
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: man when you're a corner and you can cover.

988
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: Is that what you want? Hamford? Do you want to

989
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: be playing much more man coverage?

990
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Speaker 6: Absolutely you do. And and Nathan you know as fell

991
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 6: as I do. You guys know we have the guys

992
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 6: to do it in that back end. And it all

993
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 6: starts with Danzie Award, who I just think is just

994
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 6: one of the you know, top corner cover guys in

995
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 6: the league. And then we got also a kid that's

996
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 6: really really covering on you're talking with the kid I've

997
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 6: missed him to state, Mark Emerson, and Nathan, I know

998
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: you're pretty you're pretty high on him also, and then

999
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 6: we got Greg Newsom and A J. Full and got

1000
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 6: aj We got aj back there. But guy, what about

1001
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 6: the kid we just drafted in the fifth round, Camera Smith.

1002
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 6: I mean, he's another guy that's starting to play pretty well.

1003
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 6: And I haven't even got to the safeties yet. But

1004
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 6: it's just there's I guess you can hear the excitement

1005
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 6: in my voice right now when we start to talk

1006
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 6: about this football team because to me, all the pieces

1007
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: right now are in place.

1008
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: Yep, well they are. And the other thing, Hanford that's

1009
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: really cool. And just from this as we just kind

1010
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: of keep it in the secondary and Z asked you

1011
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: about the defensive front, like it all seems to marry

1012
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: to one another, if that makes sense. It all fits

1013
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: and it fits in the type of defense that Jim

1014
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 3: Schwartz wants to play, which is an ultra aggressive front.

1015
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: Four get up field, corners, cover, make plays. What does

1016
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: that do? From from from yours, take that, take us

1017
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: through that from a player perspective, especially the position you

1018
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: played playing in this type of defense.

1019
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: What is this?

1020
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: What would you be excited to play in this style

1021
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 3: of defense?

1022
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 6: I would be so excited because what Frank and I

1023
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 6: used to do is we used to go and we

1024
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 6: used to have take two guys. I mean he would

1025
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 6: take one, I would take the other one. Now I'm

1026
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 6: talking about wide receivers. And we used to tell we

1027
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: used to tell everybody on the defense, Hey, you don't

1028
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 6: have to worry about these guys. We got them, they're covered.

1029
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 6: You don't have to worry about them. Let's let's take

1030
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 6: care of everybody else that we have to worry about

1031
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 6: during the course of the ball game. So immediately right there,

1032
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 6: you got two or three guys, four guys with the

1033
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 6: with the guys that we have that can cover, that

1034
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 6: could take those guys out of the ball game and

1035
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 6: sure they gonna catch one or two balls. Because I

1036
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 6: remember one particular year, it was in the playoffs. We

1037
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 6: were going down to Miami and Marino had Duper and Clayton,

1038
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 6: and during that particular ball game, I mean, Frank and

1039
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 6: I we did the same thing. We told them, Hey,

1040
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 6: Dupe and Clayton, don't pretty much worry about them. We

1041
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 6: got them. Obviously, I think they called maybe one ball,

1042
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 6: if not one, maybe two balls. We didn't we didn't win.

1043
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 6: We didn't win that game, but it was very, very exciting.

1044
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 6: So I understand what you're talking about. I agree with you.

1045
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: Boy.

1046
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 6: When you have guys that that's gonna play a lot

1047
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 6: of man demand and that's what sports defense is going

1048
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 6: to do. And Nathan I was talking to Greg Newsom

1049
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 6: about this. He is so excited about how much band man.

1050
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: They're gonna play this year.

1051
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 6: And I and he knew, I understand, and I I

1052
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 6: was right there with him. I said, I'm excited for you.

1053
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're excited. Listen, you gotta there's a healthy competition

1054
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: going on. Right now, by the way, Hanford, which I'm

1055
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: sure you know about between Great Newsom and m j Emerson,

1056
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: there's significant significant stakes in one aspect or another.

1057
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what the stakes are on which.

1058
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: One of those guys gets their first interception, so I

1059
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: know they want to be a man so they have

1060
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 4: a chance to get their hands on that football.

1061
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I understand. I understand that because Frank and

1062
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 6: I used to have a little friendly battles like that.

1063
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 6: But one thing we always said, we would never let

1064
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 6: anybody turn us against each other. Because if somebody used

1065
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 6: to come up to me and ask me who's the best,

1066
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 6: I would always say Frank. And if they come up

1067
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 6: to Frank and ask him who was the best corner,

1068
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 6: he would always say me.

1069
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: So.

1070
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: But I understand those But see that's Nathan you talking

1071
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 6: about those little frillly battles and in conversations they have

1072
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 6: just the two of them, So I'm with you on

1073
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 6: that one.

1074
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Speaker 3: That is great. By the way, Uh, Hamford, thank you

1075
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: so much for your time. Folks. You can get out

1076
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,799
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Speaker 3: thanks so much for taking the time. I guess let's

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00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: just start here because this is the one that I

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00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: think we're most curious about. What are we going to

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00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: see from the Chiefs tomorrow?

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00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 5: Andy Reid was pretty vague about it. My sense is though,

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00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: that the starters will plays series maybe two, depending on

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00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 5: how long that first one might be, just to scrape

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00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 5: the rust off and then get ready for the that

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00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 5: Thursday night opener they've gotten uh, you know, ten days

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00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: or so. So but you're not going to in any case,

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00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 5: you're not going to see those guys for long, that's

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 5: for sure.

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00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: What's kind of been the story of this off season

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00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 4: for the defending Super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 5: Well, lately it's been that Chris Jones is not here.

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00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 5: You know, I think everybody sort of assumed, you know,

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00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 5: the Chief's habit has been to get their guys signed

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00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 5: right about the time camp starts. And you know, they

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00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: did that with Mahomes a few years ago, and they

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00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 5: did that with Kelsey a few years ago, and they

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00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 5: did that with Chris Jones a few years ago. And

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00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 5: you know, we just uh, I the time to trade

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00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 5: Chris Jones was before the draft, So I figured when

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00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: the Chiefs did not trade him, that they were going

1130
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 5: to go ahead and agree to a contract with Chris Jones.

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00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 5: But it's not done yet. And I don't think anybody

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00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 5: thought it would drag on this long. But here we are,

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00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 5: you know whatever, it is, thirteen days or whatever before

1134
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 5: the first game, and he has not played yet. I'm

1135
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 5: not shown up yet. So that's that's one of the

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00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 5: things that's sort of hanging over the Chief's head right

1137
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 5: now is what to do about their pass rush if

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00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 5: they don't have Chris Jones Adam.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it always comes down to money, but as you

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00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: understand it specifically, like how far is the gap? I

1141
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: guess is what Chris Jones wants. Obviously, ownership feels it's

1142
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: unreasonable for right now, how do you have what's your

1143
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: read on that.

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00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 5: Well, it's fairly significant. It's you know, a few million dollars.

1145
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 5: He wants to be paid Aaron Donald money, and the

1146
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 5: Chiefs think that that Aaron Donald contract is sort of

1147
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 5: an outlier in terms of the defensive line market and

1148
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 5: they're not willing to go there. So unless somebody changes

1149
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 5: their mind here pretty quickly, there's a lot of ground

1150
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 5: to cover. Somebody's gonna have to really cave in. You know,

1151
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 5: it's hard to see how this one's going to get resolved.

1152
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 5: But you know, the Chiefs just have their price with

1153
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 5: their people, and you know, they got to that price

1154
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 5: last year with Tyreek Hill and it wasn't going to

1155
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 5: get it done, so they pivoted pretty quickly and decided

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00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 5: they were going to trade him. I think if they

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00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 5: knew that it was going to get to this point

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00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 5: back then, six months ago or whatever with Chris Jones,

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00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 5: I think they would have made an effort to get

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Speaker 5: him traded back then. So, you know, it's one of

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00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 5: those deals where I think this has gone on longer

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00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: than most people figured it would, probably including Chris Jones. Sure.

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00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's saying, you know, he may not come

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00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 4: in till after the eighth game of the season. You

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00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: mentioned they might trade him. It just feels like up front.

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Speaker 4: And I know car Loftus had a nice rookie season

1167
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 4: with six sacks. He's kind of the guy, I mean,

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00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: fifteen and a half sacks, first team All Pro. Trading

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Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill when you have Pat Mahomes who can elevate

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00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 4: everybody around them, is one thing. But if they were

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00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,479
Speaker 4: just just trade Chris Jones, don't you feel like they'll

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00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 4: leave a pretty big hole upfront in this defense?

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00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there would be. I'm not advocating they trade

1174
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: him now. Uh you know what, while you know the

1175
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 5: time to trade him would have been six months ago

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00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: or so, but before Yeah, and you know, he's not

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00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 5: kind of a you know, it's leaving a pretty big

1178
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 5: hole in their defensive line. You know, they've they've looked

1179
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 5: at different guys to sort of try to replace him.

1180
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 5: They've you know, scrambled around to try to figure out

1181
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 5: what to do with their past rushing and complicating things.

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00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 5: One of the big free agent signings is Charles omenihu

1183
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 5: at defensive end. They were really counting on him to

1184
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 5: help things out. Well, he's been suspended by the NFL

1185
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 5: for the first six games of the season, so they're

1186
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 5: gonna play without Omenihue. For sure, and at least in

1187
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 5: the opener, it sure looks like they're gonna be playing

1188
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 5: without Chris Jones. And maybe even more than that, they're

1189
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 5: going to be playing without Chris Jones. So it's it's

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00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 5: problematic for the Chiefs, and you know, they they seem

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00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 5: resigned to the fact that they're at least going to

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00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 5: begin the season about Chris Jones. We'll see, there's still

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00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 5: some time, but they seem resigned to the fact that

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00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 5: it's not going to happen.

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00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 3: And yet I doubt anyone is going to shed a

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: tear because of course they still have Patrick Mahones, and

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00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: they still have Andy Reid, and they still have Travis

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00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: Kelcey and everything else. And they won it last year

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Speaker 3: in the year they traded Tyreek Hill as they were

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00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: working in some of these new weapons. Now with a

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00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 3: full year under these new weapons, belts, who has shined

1202
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: this camp? Who are some guys that you think maybe

1203
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: could make a leap this year.

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00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, They've got a pretty deep group of wide receivers.

1205
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 5: They've got a rookie by the name of Rushie Rice,

1206
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 5: a second round draft pick who has had a nice

1207
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 5: preseason and a nice camp. They've got a wide receiver

1208
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: draft pick last year, sky Moore, who's had a nice camp.

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00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 5: They still got Marc oz Valdez Scantling, so he's there.

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00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 5: They've got Richie James, a free agent they signed from

1211
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 5: the Giants, so they've got some. Justin Ross they signed

1212
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 5: him last year after the draft he was undrafted. Part

1213
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 5: of the reason he went undrafted is everybody knew he

1214
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: was going to need to miss season because of an injury,

1215
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 5: and the chief stuck with him. And he's playing pretty well,

1216
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 5: so I think he's going to be a part of things.

1217
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 5: So they got a lot of different places they can

1218
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 5: go with the ball. And that's not even counting Travis

1219
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: Kelcey for sure.

1220
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Speaker 4: How do you kind of see that receiver room breaking down?

1221
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 4: Is there anybody that's gonna be you know, Kelsey's obviously

1222
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: the guy, or do you think it's going to be

1223
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: all your kind of a rotating cast, Like does sky

1224
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: Moore come in and take over a major role?

1225
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: Does Rice do that? Does Justin Ross do that?

1226
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: Or do you think it's going to be kind of

1227
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: everybody's going to be playing at various times and there

1228
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: isn't kind of a guy the way there was with

1229
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill here alongside Travis Kelsey.

1230
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I see it more like that that.

1231
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: You know, it might be a different guy every week,

1232
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 5: might be a matchup thing. You know, the Chiefs are

1233
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 5: gonna look at a lot of different guys in those roles,

1234
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 5: and so, you know, the Chiefs have had a wide

1235
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 5: receiver with at least seventy five catches every year for

1236
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 5: like the last I looked it up, but it's been

1237
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 5: several years. But I don't know if they're gonna have

1238
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 5: a wide receiver with that many catches this year. There

1239
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 5: may be spread out among a bunch of different guys.

1240
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 5: So it's it's gonna be interesting to watch it play out,

1241
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 5: no doubt.

1242
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: How About in the run game, obviously they get Pachecko

1243
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: out of Rutgers kind of comes out out of nowhere.

1244
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: Did McKinnon there too, right, So they have him and

1245
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: then Clyde Edwardsilaire still hanging around the first round pick

1246
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 3: from LSU from a couple of years ago. Is this

1247
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: Pachecko at the top and then everyone kind of falls

1248
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: in underneath.

1249
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 5: Yeah. The problem with that is Pachecko had surgery during

1250
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 5: the off season of shoulder surgery, and he didn't practice

1251
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 5: all during training camp. He was well. He did practice,

1252
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 5: he was very limited, did mostly individual drills. But this

1253
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 5: week he was cleared for contact finally, so he made

1254
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 5: play a little bit against the Browns tomorrow. And but

1255
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: I just don't know what his readiness is for a

1256
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 5: full role. So I think the Chiefs is going to

1257
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 5: need all those guys. They're going to need Jack McKinnon

1258
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 5: to help out, and probably Edwards Hilaire and maybe even

1259
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: a fourth back depending on who they decide to keep.

1260
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 5: They might until Jacko gets up to speed. I expected

1261
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 5: to be a limited amount for him in the games.

1262
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: Might be a few weeks before he's back to carrying

1263
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 5: a pretty big load.

1264
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 4: One of the changes up front on the offensive line

1265
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: looks like two new starting tackles if I have that right.

1266
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: Jawan Taylor comes over former Jacksonville Jaguars second round pick,

1267
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 4: and then Donovan Smith, who had been with the Tampa

1268
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 4: Bay Buccaneers. How are the new tackles kind of settling

1269
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: in because on the interior with you know, Trey Smith,

1270
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 4: Creed Humphrey, Joe Toney, that's as good as it gets.

1271
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that looks like the Chiefs had the last couple

1272
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 5: of years, they had Orlando Brown as their left tackle

1273
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 5: and Andrew Wiley as their wife tackle, and both guys

1274
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 5: moved on, So in effect, they're trading those two guys

1275
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 5: for Taylor and Smith and far I think it looks

1276
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 5: like an upgrade. Both Taylor and Smith have played well

1277
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 5: during camp and in the two preseason games. Haven't played

1278
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 5: a ton in the games, but it looked good when

1279
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 5: they were in there. So the Chiefs are pretty happy

1280
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 5: with what they've seen from those guys, and it's quite

1281
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 5: possible to be better on the offensive line this year

1282
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: than they were last year.

1283
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: Andam Obviously, anytime you have Patrick Mahomes at quarterback, you're

1284
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: right there at the very top.

1285
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: Of the sport.

1286
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: He's already won the two Super Bowls. For the rest

1287
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: of us, you've gotten to know him pretty well through

1288
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: the years. We got a little bit of chance to

1289
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 3: get to know him better through the Quarterback series that's

1290
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: aired on Netflix. I guess what I'm curious about is,

1291
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 3: you know, he has the two Super Bowls, he's won

1292
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: the MVPs. Is there a hunger that you sense in

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Speaker 3: him to go, like try to chase down Manning's and

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Speaker 3: Brady's and that type of echelon. Is that something that

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Speaker 3: is he driven like that?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean you've seen it several occasions during camp.

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Speaker 5: You know, there was the Chiefs came out in the

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Speaker 5: first preseason game down in New Orleans and we're pretty sluggish.

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Speaker 5: I mean it was it was noticeable that, you know,

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Speaker 5: they weren't ready to play, and he kind of got

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Speaker 5: after him a little bit. You could see him on

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Speaker 5: the sideline getting in people's face. I mean he was,

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Speaker 5: you know, and he said later he said, hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter whether we win the game or not,

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Speaker 5: but we need to you know, we're setting the standard

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Speaker 5: around here. We can't come out and play like this

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Speaker 5: if we you know, during the regular season. So you know,

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Speaker 5: he was pretty vocal about it. He was vocal about

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Speaker 5: that in a couple of times during training camp, you know,

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Speaker 5: when when the energy was a little bit low. So

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Speaker 5: you know, he he's been a guy that kind of

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Speaker 5: light the fire a few times so far during the

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Speaker 5: early part of the season. So it's been an interesting phenomenon.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that does burn in him, There's no doubt

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Speaker 5: about it. I think he wants to. You know, he

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Speaker 5: took a lesser contract with the Chiefs because he wanted

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Speaker 5: to stay here and he wanted to be no more

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Speaker 5: for his rings than how much money he was getting paid.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, to validate that decision, he's gonna

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Speaker 5: have to win a few more for sure, Adam.

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Speaker 4: Was there anything you know somebody who covers the team

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Speaker 4: and is close to it? And the reason I asked

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Speaker 4: this question, I was talk with Wan Thornhill yesterday about

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Speaker 4: the Quarterback Show and he said, I didn't realize Pat

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 4: talk that much smack during games.

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Speaker 2: That was just that kind of caught him up guard.

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Speaker 4: Was there anything that kind of caught that surprised you about,

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Speaker 4: you know, how much or anything you learned about Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes from that Quarterback Show?

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Speaker 2: No, not really.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of people were surprised

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Speaker 5: at how much time he puts into it. But that's

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Speaker 5: what he does. I mean, he doesn't just show up

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Speaker 5: on game day. I mean, this guy is you know,

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Speaker 5: a week or whatever it was after the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: last year, he was back at it with his training

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01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 5: and he just he just spends so much time at

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Speaker 5: this and like all great quarterbacks do. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: can't you can't just show up on game day. But

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people were caught off guard

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Speaker 5: by how much time he does invest in football, because

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Speaker 5: it truly is a year round thing for him.

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Speaker 3: Adam, great stuff is always Thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: your time. We greatly appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Hey anytime, guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's Adam Tischer ESPN NFL Nation Chiefs Report

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Speaker 3: Some fantasy questions. I got one for you after that

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Speaker 3: you make from a fantasy perspective of Adam's comments about

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Speaker 3: how they're going to handle the receivers in the running

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Speaker 3: backs in Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I don't want to busch that

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Speaker 4: I think we had the guru on and the guru was,

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Speaker 4: you know, back on Sky and you felt a little

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 4: bit burned by that a year ago. I did, and

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Speaker 4: it sounded to me because that's I asked that question

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 4: for a very specific reason, and it was purely for

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Speaker 4: a fantasy football reason, and that was, you know, is

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Speaker 4: there somebody who's really emerging as kind of a go

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Speaker 4: to guy for Patrick Mahomes. And it felt to me

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Speaker 4: like he said, no, it's gonna be Marquez Valdez Scantling.

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Speaker 4: Some weeks, it's going to be you know, Sky Moore

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01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 4: some weeks, Canarious. Tony's in the mix. They got the

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Speaker 4: Kimbrashi Rice they drafted in the second round. They've got

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Speaker 4: Justin Ross, so I was kind of scared by that.

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Speaker 4: Uh Pa Checko, I think is their main runner, Jerck McKinnon.

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Speaker 4: It's really like two players to be one complete player.

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Speaker 4: So McKinnon's their third down back. They're passing game back.

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Speaker 4: Last year he caught nine touchdowns, which was the most

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Speaker 4: by any running back in the NFL. So that's kind

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Speaker 4: of how they're going to do it at the running

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Speaker 4: back and obvious Clyde Edwards Hilaire is kind of the

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Speaker 4: odd man out, which is still stunning that he never

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Speaker 4: really worked out with them.

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Speaker 3: First round pick just felt like such a luxury pick

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Speaker 3: for that it was, you know, it was they had

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Speaker 3: everything else and so they took him, and now you know,

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Speaker 3: in doing so, they've hurt themselves kind of on their

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Speaker 3: defensive side because they you know, they took a running

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Speaker 3: back in the first round that they quite frankly you

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Speaker 3: just don't need. And they proved it by getting Pacheco

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Speaker 3: what in the seventh seventh yep, so it kind of

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Speaker 3: kind of proved that out. Time for the Fantasy Bene

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Speaker 3: for you, doctor Z. He says, in fantasy, I've got

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Speaker 3: Deshaun and Amari seventh and eighth rounds. I've waited on

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Speaker 3: tight end and then Chief was the only guy left.

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Speaker 3: Is it unwise to start Cooper in that case Shore

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Speaker 3: look to move him? Or is this a double stack?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think you want to have two pass

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Speaker 4: catchers on the same team. The only exception I can

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Speaker 4: think of right now where I would be like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: is if you had Waddle and Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: But really Higgins and Chase, Higgins and Chase.

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Speaker 4: But you even then saying that out loud, you don't

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Speaker 4: really want that, no, because it limits you, It caps

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Speaker 4: your upside. So to have the Shawnamary and the Chief

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Speaker 4: Dashawan and Amari is a perfect stack, or DeShawn and

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Speaker 4: the Chief's a perfect stack.

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Speaker 2: So I would look to make a trade with either

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Speaker 2: Amari or the Chief.

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Speaker 4: And kind of just at least level that out, because

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Speaker 4: even like, you want to have everybody be able to

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Speaker 4: catch get their fair share, and you don't want it

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Speaker 4: to be well, oh if the ball goes here, that

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Speaker 4: means it can't go to my guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, they're both my guys. It's it's too much,

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Speaker 2: too much.

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Speaker 3: If you could only pick one Browns player in the

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Speaker 3: fantasy football draft and it wasn't QB one, who would

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Speaker 3: it be And why I should this should say? If

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Speaker 3: it wasn't Nick.

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Speaker 4: Chubb, That's exactly what it should say. Because I was in,

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Speaker 4: who Uno did you do? Do you play fantasy football?

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Speaker 2: Who know? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's saying yes, he's yeah, Uno does play fantas football?

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Speaker 4: Then oh no, come on, we know this. Nick Chubb

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Speaker 4: is gonna be a first round pick in fantasy. So

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna go after Nick Chubb, who's the one

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Speaker 4: Brown to get? I think there are a lot. I

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Speaker 4: think you could be very happy getting Deshaun. I think

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Speaker 4: you'd be very happy getting Amari, David Ajoku, Elijah Moore

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Speaker 4: and even DPJ later on. But I would say that,

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Speaker 4: really those are the four that I'd focus on, and

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Speaker 4: then I think the Browns defense is gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be sacks stat racking up a

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Speaker 4: stat a stats sheet, stuffer, supreme.

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Speaker 2: A four US man.

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Speaker 3: Baby, is there a Have you done any of your

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Speaker 3: drafts yet?

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Speaker 2: No? Sunday is the first one is the miss League?

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the stakes are so high on that one.

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Speaker 2: The stakes are very high.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's really like I want to I first and foremost,

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Speaker 4: I want to win, and then second, if I don't win,

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Speaker 4: I don't want Mike to win either.

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Speaker 2: And then the rest of it is fine with me.

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Speaker 3: It's all gravy after that. Also, either you win or

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Speaker 3: the field and then Mike last.

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Speaker 4: Although we've gotten to a point now where eight of

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Speaker 4: the last nine championships have been won by three franchises,

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Speaker 4: mine we've got three, the Suning Snakes, the Great George

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Speaker 4: Bowens of La Potensia fame he has three as well,

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Speaker 4: and then Tony Kay He's got two.

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Speaker 2: Uh with Precige worldwide.

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Speaker 4: So we've had that group prior to last year, Mark

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Speaker 4: Monico and the Mark Victoria of the Megapowers. They broke

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01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 4: through and won their first title. But for that group,

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Speaker 4: it almost controlled the AFFL for a decade. Eight straight

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Speaker 4: titles and three franchises out of twelve, which is crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, that's a lot of dominance there. I'm curious,

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Speaker 3: you know what the trends. There's usually a trend And

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Speaker 3: we had the Guru on this week and he was

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Speaker 3: talking about, you know, his idea is receivers, load up

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: on them and then the running backs come to you later.

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Speaker 3: Is there a strategy you recommend or is it one

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Speaker 3: of those things where it really depends on where you draft.

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Speaker 4: I think it depends on where you draft, and I

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Speaker 4: think like if you go to the Guru's website, for example,

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Speaker 4: Fantasy points dot com, he has mox that he did

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Speaker 4: that he liked from every single draft position, so you

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Speaker 4: can kind of see the strategy and how things fall

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 4: based on if your first, second, third, or eighth, ninth,

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 4: or you know, eleven twelve. You want to get the

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Speaker 4: guys that you feel the best about that will score

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01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 4: the most points. I think that it will be much

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01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 4: easier for you. For example, I'm in one league. It's

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Speaker 4: twelve teams, two running backs, three receivers, and a flex,

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 4: and we're keeping three receivers. We're keeping aj Brown, Jalen Wattle,

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01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 4: and Garrett Wilson. So we're starting off with that, and

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 4: like we pick fourth overall and we might go receiver

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 4: again because running backs obviously higher percent chance of getting hurt,

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01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 4: and receivers, I just feel like are scoring more than.

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Speaker 2: Ever in fantasy football.

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Speaker 4: And so when you get a guy, especially in your league,

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Speaker 4: with a half PPR, and you got the guy who's

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Speaker 4: getting you know, six for one hundred, and there's always

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Speaker 4: bonuses at one hundred, six for one hundred and a

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Speaker 4: touchdown all a sudden. So you got four guys who

1505
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 4: could score twenty plus any week. The rest of your

1506
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 4: team just needs to be complimentary. So just don't feel

1507
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 4: like it used to be running back, running back, running back,

1508
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 4: running back, running back. It's not get the best players

1509
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 4: wide receiver, and I think it's important this year to

1510
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 4: have one of the good tight ends. I think there

1511
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 4: are guys that you can get in the middle of

1512
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: the pack that are pretty good, but like Kelsey is

1513
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 4: absolutely worth it. We're whatever you draft him, even if

1514
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 4: it's in the first round. And then I think, I

1515
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: think t J. Hawkinson is going to be really good

1516
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 4: this year. I really like t J. Hawkinson.

1517
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:12,839
Speaker 3: It sounds like the kid in Detroit could be rookie,

1518
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: that he could be talking to one of the guys

1519
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 3: up there last week, that, especially without Jamison Williams, that

1520
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 3: he's been like almost like a blanket for inspect out

1521
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 3: of him. Yeah. Also in Buffalo, Kaid.

1522
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: Kaid's gonna yet, He's going to be a beast.

1523
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna use him. They're gonna use him

1524
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 3: in a lot of the ways they used Cole Beasley

1525
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago in that big slot, and

1526
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: so Alan will find him a lot. So those are

1527
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: two guys that I've I've heard just talking to guys.

1528
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: I'm always curious anytime we talked to uh an NFL

1529
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: reporter and in the morning, I've talked to a different

1530
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 3: one every week for the last three weeks.

1531
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: It's like a great idea.

1532
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: It is. It's a fantastic idea. Get a real feel

1533
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 3: for the for the league. But what it what comes

1534
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 3: with that is you get you hear like names and

1535
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: how they speak of them kind of leads you much

1536
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 3: like probably how we've been talking about Elijah Moore. Yeah, right,

1537
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 3: Like you wouldn't if you're outside the league and we

1538
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 3: said Elijah Moore's coming, you'd say, come on, right, But

1539
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: we see it, and so those guys that are in

1540
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 3: those camps, they see how guys are being utilized. And

1541
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: there's there's a big, a big big part with that.

1542
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 3: Where is Chubb on your running back rankings?

1543
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 2: He'd be in the he'd be top five. I mean

1544
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: he's you know, he doesn't what is it?

1545
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 3: Is it Eckler one?

1546
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 4: Probably Eckler and McCaffrey or one two, and then he's

1547
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 4: right there. I mean some people are, you know, Beijon's

1548
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 4: up in a lot of rankings, Saquon Derrick Henry. But

1549
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 4: I mean to me, the number one overall pick in

1550
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: the draft this year is if you have first overall,

1551
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 4: it's justin.

1552
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: Jefferson, like period, full stop.

1553
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1554
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 4: By the way, I think they kid Addison Like if

1555
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 4: I didn't get Howkinson, i'd want Addison.

1556
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna be a beast.

1557
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like he's good. He's the kid who

1558
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: was at pitt and then transferred to USC at the

1559
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 3: in the portaling last year. So yeah, he's he's he's

1560
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: a dude. There's a lot of them out there. Yeah,

1561
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 3: I'm big on Garrett Wilson. I think he can.

1562
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a that's a that's if you pick at

1563
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 4: the end of the first round, maybe you grab him

1564
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 4: on the way back in the second you're going to have.

1565
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: That's a thing.

1566
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 4: There are so many good receivers and there aren't that

1567
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 4: many good running backs, and that's kind of just so

1568
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 4: lean into that.

1569
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: Don't fight that and be like, oh, I.

1570
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 4: Got to get my running backs so that I know

1571
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 4: I can get receivers, which is in some ways kind

1572
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 4: of true. But I'm telling you, in fancy football right now,

1573
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 4: the receivers are the dominant point scores, especially if you

1574
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 4: playing any kind of the PPR or HALFVPR, they are

1575
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 4: the dominant point scores in your league. And then you

1576
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: can get a quarterback like I have in one of

1577
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 4: our leagues. We have fields in the last round as

1578
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 4: our keeper. So to me, he's like my quarterback and

1579
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 4: kind of half of at least one of my running backs,

1580
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 4: you know, So I'm fine with him, Like I'm fine

1581
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 4: with being better at receiver than I am at running backs.

1582
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to get a lot of rushing production out

1583
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 4: of my quarterback, right.

1584
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way you got to put that all together.

1585
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,200
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Speaker 4: Body and He's a man that you may say undrafted

1621
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 4: free agent. Maybe he needs introduction. Well, if you've been

1622
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 4: watching this preseason, certainly does not. Last week against the

1623
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 4: Eagles team high eight tackles, knife through for that safety.

1624
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 4: Also Peanut Tillman, the little punch out for the Force

1625
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 4: fumble a big game every week. My mood feels like

1626
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 4: you're catching people's attention. Let's just start with your background.

1627
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 4: How did you get to this point?

1628
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, grew up in Auburn, Alabama, country boy.

1629
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 7: Both of my parents, you know, immigrants from West Africa,

1630
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 7: so they just built a foundational education and hard work.

1631
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 7: You know, they weren't really the biggest football fans, but

1632
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 7: you know I kind of set my mom to that

1633
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 7: as a youth that I wanted to be a professional

1634
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 7: football player. You know, out of high school, Winder the

1635
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 7: University of Florida, had a great three years. They're good,

1636
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 7: good career there, and then you know, after my coach

1637
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 7: got fired and made a decision to go to the

1638
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 7: University of Utah so i'd have a chance to compete

1639
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 7: for a championship in my last year, and finished my

1640
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 7: last year there, I was able to win a Patchwach championship,

1641
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 7: had another great season and was luckily enough after going

1642
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 7: on drafted to have the Browns offered me a country

1643
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 7: to come play with them. So that's just a quick

1644
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 7: little run through of my background.

1645
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 4: Good little bio right there for my mood. Dea body

1646
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 4: film that's going to be made one of these days.

1647
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about it. In high school, what

1648
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 4: sports did you play?

1649
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 7: Football? Basketball? And track? You know, really track in football

1650
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 7: were my main ones. I was really good at track

1651
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 7: as a youth, you know, ninth grade, I think I'd

1652
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 7: run like a forty eight and the four hundred, but

1653
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 7: I decided to put that down. And eleventh and twelfth grade,

1654
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 7: I just honed in the focus on football to get

1655
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 7: my body rated for college.

1656
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: And you certainly did that.

1657
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 4: So from Florida, then you go to Utah and at

1658
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 4: Utah when I was kind of watching some of your

1659
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 4: stuff and going through the stats, you know, five sacks,

1660
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 4: thirteen and a half tackles for loss, who are always

1661
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: around the line of scrimmage, good Blitzer, and we've seen

1662
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 4: that certainly so far in the preseason. How is what

1663
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: you were asked to do at Utah different or maybe

1664
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 4: similar to what you're being asked to do here is.

1665
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 7: Different and similar in the same way. We both ran

1666
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 7: attacking three I mean four to three defenses, so when

1667
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 7: it comes to run fits and certain things like that,

1668
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 7: we worked relatively the same. But coverage wise, and you know,

1669
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 7: pressure wise, is completely different scenario. But I feel like

1670
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 7: Utah definitely gave me the tools to prepare myself to

1671
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 7: be ready for this opportunity.

1672
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 4: Were you closer to the line of scrimmage more often

1673
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 4: at Utah kind of overhanging, being able to get after

1674
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:55,839
Speaker 4: the quarterback?

1675
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 7: Yes, their as the season went on, later in the

1676
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 7: season kind of developed to that role, you know where

1677
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 7: I better enjoyed playing, was able to make a lot

1678
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 7: of good plays.

1679
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 2: Do you like now coming and getting to be be

1680
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: the mic h.

1681
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, you know I like. I love having a

1682
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 7: green dot, being a communications center. I take pride in that,

1683
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 7: being able to get everybody lined up, being able to

1684
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 7: get everybody in the right place. So I definitely think

1685
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 7: it's a big deal and I look forward to keep

1686
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 7: playing that position.

1687
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 4: Before I ever saw you play a game in our uniform,

1688
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,480
Speaker 4: obviously senior in college, you did something at the Greenbrier

1689
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 4: that stood out to me, and that was not only

1690
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 4: you guys had you had an unbelievable special teams battle.

1691
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 4: You're going after it with I think Jordan Kuanashik you're

1692
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: a fellow the linebacker for a little bit. But also

1693
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 4: there was a play where one of the defensive linemen

1694
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 4: jumped off sides and you're in there, underrafted free agent rookie,

1695
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 4: first training camp, first week of training camp, and you

1696
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 4: got like in their butts a little bit like this

1697
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 4: is not acceptable? Is that leadership always something's been naturally

1698
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 4: you back your days in Auburn, Alabama? Or is that

1699
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 4: something that you said, you know what, if I have

1700
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 4: to make an impact here, this is what I gotta be.

1701
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1702
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 7: I've just always been a natural leader. You know, ever

1703
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 7: since I was a kid, I was always a guy,

1704
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 7: you know, giving the speeches before the game, you know,

1705
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 7: getting people in line, just because my teammates always respected,

1706
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 7: you know, the series biousness and how I approach the game.

1707
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 7: So I was always a guy to kind of lead,

1708
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 7: you know, lead by example first and then lead by

1709
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 7: my words second. So that's something that I've always been

1710
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 7: comfortable in, and you know, I look forward to continue

1711
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 7: doing that.

1712
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 4: All What's your motivational speech, like do you have a

1713
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 4: go to Do you have a line or a theme

1714
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 4: that is typically in your in a mamud dea body

1715
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 4: pump up speech.

1716
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really, you know, just representation. I'm big on

1717
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 7: representing your name and representing your family. And every time

1718
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 7: you step on the field, you know, your representation of

1719
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 7: your parents, your representation of your nation. You know, me

1720
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 7: being the parent of immigrants, I feel like I'm a

1721
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 7: representation from my whole nation of Maley. So every time

1722
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 7: I step on the field, I feel everyone's on my

1723
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 7: back and I have to carry them and be successful.

1724
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 7: So I had to remind people of where they came

1725
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 7: from in order to get to this point that we're

1726
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 7: at today on game day, and just leave it all

1727
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 7: out there because you put a lot of work in

1728
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 7: to be here, so you deserve to get your best

1729
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 7: effort every single snap.

1730
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: All right, So you come in, you're a donun dress

1731
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 2: for you.

1732
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 4: It's got to be so different, right from being in

1733
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 4: college where you're a guy who's counted on and then

1734
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, now it's you have to scratch

1735
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 4: and claw to make this team. And boy, you've done

1736
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 4: everything thinking your powers to absolutely do that. How does

1737
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 4: that mentality because it sounds like you're big about representation,

1738
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 4: You're talking about representing the people back in your homeland

1739
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 4: as well as your family.

1740
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: And all of that.

1741
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 4: Has that what's fueled you to kind of take it

1742
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 4: and give everything to know that you're fighting the odds,

1743
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 4: but you're also coming in here and making an impact.

1744
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. You know, despite going undrafted, you know, I

1745
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 7: felt like I should have got drafted. You know, I

1746
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 7: knew my talent, so I didn't really let that get

1747
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 7: into my head. I was just focused on preparing over

1748
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 7: the summer, getting ready to show the impact and what

1749
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 7: type of player I am and you know, kind of

1750
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 7: get away from that label. So yeah, my family, everything

1751
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 7: has a big part in that, just because I feel

1752
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 7: like I represented them. So when I went undrafted, I

1753
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 7: almost feel like that was kind of let down for

1754
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 7: my people. So you know, now I'm on a mission

1755
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 7: and I don't see it anytime soon where I'm kind

1756
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 7: of on a retribution mission for myself and for my people,

1757
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 7: you know, and it doesn't stop with making a team,

1758
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 7: that doesn't start with making plays. You know, That's something

1759
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 7: that I'm going to carry for the rest of my career.

1760
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 7: So I'm excited to do that and come through every

1761
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 7: week and get my heartiest on the field.

1762
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 4: There's probably something that for a guy like you, because

1763
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 4: there are undrafted free agents and then there are what

1764
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 4: people call priority undrafted free is we're after the draft,

1765
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 4: there's a mad scramble. Teams are in pursuit of you.

1766
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 4: They're paying you money in cases, sometimes more money than

1767
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 4: draft picks are even getting paid to make sure that

1768
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 4: you're in their program. Now you have a choice in that.

1769
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 4: So what made you choose the Browns and what was

1770
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 4: that pursuit like that made you say? You know what,

1771
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 4: this is where I want to be.

1772
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: Honestly, you know at d they wanted you.

1773
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 3: You know that.

1774
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 7: At the end of the draft of my agent called

1775
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 7: me to you know a lot of different teams who

1776
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 7: who wanted assignment. He was like, yeah, I feel like

1777
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 7: we should go to the to the most money or

1778
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 7: do you feel like you should go you need to

1779
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 7: go to a specific place based on the depth chart

1780
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 7: of this. And I told him, I was like, listen,

1781
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 7: I feel confident in stepping into any building and being

1782
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 7: the same guy. So what office is the most money?

1783
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 7: Whoever shows they want me to most with that financial investment,

1784
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 7: let's go there. So you know, it came down to

1785
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 7: a battle of a couple of teams, and you know,

1786
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 7: the Browns ended up on top. So I was very

1787
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 7: happy to be a Cleveland Brown.

1788
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 4: We're certainly happy that you're at Cleve mad Let's go

1789
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 4: back to last week. Those big plays, and he've been

1790
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 4: making them really throughout the preseason. But talk about that

1791
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 4: safe What did you see on that play and how

1792
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 4: did you react to get back into the end zone

1793
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 4: and make that tackle.

1794
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, in that situation, I knew it was

1795
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 7: either gonna be a run or a quick pass. And

1796
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 7: when I seen the double team and my gap open,

1797
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 7: I knew it was gonna be a run. So I

1798
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 7: knew I had to take my gap. There was really

1799
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 7: wasn't much to it, just simple a simple run fit,

1800
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 7: saying my gap open and shooting it to take it.

1801
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 7: So I was very happy I was able to do that.

1802
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 4: What was the reaction when you got to your sideline

1803
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 4: from coach Tarver and then also a lot of veterans

1804
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 4: in your room.

1805
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: What were they saying to it?

1806
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 7: They had good energy, you know, they were letting me

1807
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 7: know you know that was a great play. Just keep going.

1808
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 7: Try to have a quick memory on big plays and

1809
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 7: bad plays. You know, forget that happened. Was going to

1810
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 7: the next fell Let's do something else. So that was

1811
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 7: my mindset coming out to the next drive.

1812
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 4: I know one thing Kevin Stefanci preaches and I'm sure

1813
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 4: Jim Schwartz as well as being ball seeking, getting that

1814
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 4: football out turnovers those chains games you scored two on

1815
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 4: the safety. You also forced to funnel that game that

1816
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 4: led directly to three more. So that's five points for

1817
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 4: you there. Let's talk about that punch out. Obviously you

1818
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 4: had the technique. I mean you closed fist. I got

1819
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 4: to watch that slow mother at closed fist and you

1820
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 4: hit that thing perfectly and punched it out up.

1821
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, it was just it's really about you know

1822
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 7: where on the ball you punch and having that fist

1823
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 7: and having that wind up. I was able to stay

1824
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 7: alive when the play had a lot of blockers coming

1825
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 7: to me, and I've seen an opportunity to go take

1826
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 7: the ball out, so I tried to take that. You know,

1827
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 7: that's something that I usually try to do when I'm

1828
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 7: tackling h if I can you know, especially in traffic

1829
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 7: when the running back is pretty occupied with other people.

1830
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 7: So I was able to take the opportunity and it

1831
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 7: came out. So you know, I'm thankful for that.

1832
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 4: What's it like being in a room with guy like

1833
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 4: Anthony Walker, who is such a great leader. He's coming

1834
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 4: back off of an injury, but you know, the four

1835
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 4: seasons for that average one hundred and nine tackles, He

1836
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 4: got talks.

1837
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: You know, been in the league for a while.

1838
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 4: Jordan Kunashik's a guy who you know, maybe in some ways,

1839
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 4: you know, started off undrafted and then is now playing

1840
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 4: in a chance to be a starter for this team.

1841
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 4: What's like having some of those veterans in that room.

1842
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,839
Speaker 7: It's great having him. You know, they've been very helpful,

1843
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 7: you know, giving me insight on how to prepare, you know,

1844
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 7: how to be ready for practice. You know, after reps

1845
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 7: they'll give me, they'll give me advice on what I

1846
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 7: could have done better. Uh, you know, they'll hype me

1847
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 7: up when I made good plays. So, you know, it's

1848
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 7: been a blessing to have vets who are accepting and

1849
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 7: and you know want to see me grow and want

1850
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 7: to see me get better.

1851
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 4: One of the things they say, for a young player,

1852
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 4: your position, coach is so important.

1853
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: Jason Tarveror loves ball.

1854
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 4: He is as enthusiastic as anybody, and he gives you,

1855
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 4: guys such detailed notes. Has that been a change for

1856
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 4: maybe how you would received information in the past, and

1857
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 4: how helpful has that been?

1858
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 7: I definitely feel like, you know, in college, I had

1859
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 7: some great coaches who you know, were definitely own their business.

1860
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 7: It's just a different vibe with Tarboro, just withuse Tarbor

1861
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 7: so much more experience. Tarboro has so much more wisdom

1862
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 7: that you know, when he tells me something, you know

1863
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 7: he says it in a way that you're gonna really

1864
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 7: understand that. You know, Tarvor is just not somebody who's

1865
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 7: a football coach. He's an intelligent person without football. So

1866
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 7: you know, you could tell that by the way he

1867
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 7: coaches a boy, the way he reacts, reacts to people,

1868
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 7: the way that he controls the room, that he's a

1869
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 7: very intelligent person. And you know, he makes football easy

1870
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 7: to understand. He makes getting better easy to understand. So

1871
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 7: I've really been appreciative of him and I look forward

1872
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 7: to continue growing with him.

1873
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you certainly have gotten bet all right, I'm

1874
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 4: gonna end with this one because I think this is

1875
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 4: and I probably could guess the answer based on something

1876
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 4: he said already. But when Cleveland Browns fans are watching

1877
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 4: and they see forty three out there, they see your

1878
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 4: body on the back of that jersey, what do you

1879
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 4: want them to be?

1880
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 2: Thinking? Fast?

1881
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 7: Physical, aggressive? That guy's gonna play fast. He's gonna play physical,

1882
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 7: and he's gonna be aggressive. You know, when somebody comes

1883
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 7: across his face, he's gonna set the tone. But he

1884
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 7: also knows how to lead and calm down and do

1885
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 7: everything that's necessary. So I feel like I'm a complete

1886
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 7: you know, I have every aspect of the game. You know,

1887
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 7: I have an ability to be great in every aspect

1888
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 7: of the game. I just want to lock in and

1889
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 7: keep working and do that. It's important to you, isn't it, Yes, sir, definitely.

1890
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 7: You know this is life, like they say, you know,

1891
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 7: to whom much is given, much is demanded. I feel

1892
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 7: like God blessed me with a lot of talent, so

1893
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 7: it's my job to make sure I maximize it and

1894
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 7: get to the best of.

1895
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 2: My ability, my mood.

1896
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 4: It's been a pleasure of getting to watch you develop

1897
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 4: best of luck to you this season.

1898
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: Keep going, man, it's awesome.

1899
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I appreciate you. I appreciate all the Browns fans.

1900
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 7: You know, just look forward to keep going.

1901
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 3: That's a driven mansie.

1902
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, focused, locked in, intense, there's an intensity of people

1903
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 4: intensity to him, mature, and he's right look at the

1904
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 4: end of the day. And I liked his candor as well.

1905
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 4: I felt I believe in myself that if somebody offers

1906
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 4: me the most money, obviously they want me, and that

1907
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to make the right impression. I don't care

1908
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 4: what the depth chart looks like. I'm gonna I'm gonna

1909
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 4: handle myself. And the Browns wanted him badly, and it's interesting.

1910
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 4: There's a weird thing that's kind of happened in the

1911
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 4: NFL where teams, in many cases, guys that teams like

1912
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 4: better than players that are drafted go undrafted so that

1913
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 4: they can kind of I don't really understand why this happens,

1914
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 4: but then it's happening every year where there are these

1915
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 4: kind of like priority free agents that everybody in the

1916
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 4: league is in on, and then they go and they

1917
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 4: get him, and sometimes you know, teams will trade out

1918
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 4: of the seventh round and then they'll go after these

1919
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 4: free agents that they get more excited about even they

1920
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 4: could have drafted them. I don't know, but the brown

1921
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 4: wanted a couple like that too, totally. The Browns wanted

1922
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: AJ Green and now he's, you know, a fourth corner

1923
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 4: for them.

1924
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: They wanted be a body. And I remember talking to

1925
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 2: AJ Green.

1926
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 4: I as to he had a chip on his shoulder

1927
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 4: because he felt like it was much like Mamu did that,

1928
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 4: you know, he should have been drafted. And he's like,

1929
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 4: I got a boulder on my shoulder, and I think

1930
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Speaker 4: my mood it's kind of the same way. By the way,

1931
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Speaker 4: when I slapped him on the back when he killed,

1932
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Speaker 4: just kind of like saying you know, hi to him,

1933
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Speaker 4: like that dude is solid.

1934
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Speaker 2: That's like a big, strong dude.

1935
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Speaker 3: We have so many guys who come through with with

1936
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Speaker 3: so many incredible resumes. He was the number nine linebacker

1937
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Speaker 3: in the country coming out of high school. He had

1938
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Speaker 3: offers from Alabama and Georgia and Auburn and ends up

1939
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Speaker 3: going to Florida before transferring to Utah. He was a

1940
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Speaker 3: US Army All American, like he's every he's been, so

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying by that is and I think when

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Speaker 3: you understand like he understood that, chip is there. Uh,

1943
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Speaker 3: the serious character of it all is there because this

1944
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Speaker 3: is someone who is identified young as a dude. So

1945
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Speaker 3: he's been somebody like that has goes to Utah in

1946
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Speaker 3: the transfer portal, but he's been somebody who's been that

1947
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Speaker 3: probably since he was a sophomore in high school. He's

1948
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Speaker 3: been identified as that type of a guy.

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Speaker 2: So it offered by Bam and Georgia. That's not yeah, anybody.

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Speaker 3: He went to Florida, He's from Auburn, Like no, he's yeah,

1951
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Speaker 3: that's number nine linebacker in the country. Like that's that's

1952
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Speaker 3: what he was coming out of high school. So much

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Speaker 3: more to come, including your schedule for tomorrow. You listen

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Speaker 3: to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Well we've made it, buddy, We got a game tomorrow

1961
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Speaker 3: that doesn't count except for the bottom of the roster

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Speaker 3: that's fighting. There's a lot to fight for here, but

1963
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Speaker 3: in terms of inn the standings doesn't count. And then

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Speaker 3: then we're off. It's onto the Bengals. From that standpoint,

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Speaker 3: you'll fly tomorrow down there. For that one, we kind

1966
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Speaker 3: of went through everything to look forward to in terms

1967
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Speaker 3: of for you from a Cleveland Browns Radio Network perspective,

1968
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 3: you're driving around at youth football tomorrow. This is what

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Speaker 3: you can expect. Nine am Brown's Game Day, Matt Fontana,

1970
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Speaker 3: Gerad Cherry, than eleven am, the Kickoff Show, Andy Baskin,

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Speaker 3: Tyvis Powell, than at one o'clock, Jim z Gerard one

1972
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Speaker 3: o'clock kick from Kansas City. So you have that to

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Speaker 3: look forward to tomorrow, which ought to be very very nice.

1974
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Speaker 3: It sounds like, according to Tyscher, you're gonna get see

1975
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Speaker 3: a little bit of the Chiefs starter. So that's a win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he said, and I thought that was

1977
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Speaker 4: that's kind of not what we had been hearing.

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Speaker 2: So, no, it would be much more fun.

1979
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Speaker 3: Yes, it would be much more fun. At least I'm

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Speaker 3: a driver too.

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Speaker 4: By the way, if they were to play their starters

1982
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Speaker 4: I would have been mad that I wasted my time going.

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Speaker 2: Through all of their starters for my boards.

1984
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Speaker 3: For the boards. Yeah, so play them, play them, that

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Speaker 3: would be nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there you go. Uh fun one and then

1988
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Speaker 3: it starts counting for real yep from that point next week,

1989
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Speaker 3: earlier the week and to be very busy roster cut

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Speaker 3: downs the original fifty three and then the actual fifty three,

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Speaker 3: so it'll be a busy week obviously heading into the

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Speaker 3: holiday week. Have a great weekend everybody. The next level

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Speaker 3: is coming up next. Thanks for listening Cleveland Daily, a

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