1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of this information. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree? 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: You a great one of five dollars? 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: This is a road a lot happny tackle ship one. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Humans need fantasy to be human. My goodness, that was good. 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: You guys are prone best, relentless, refusing to give up. 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, bab. 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: Less there, Hello, and welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: I am your host, Smith Forbade, and I enjoyed as 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: always by the one and only Mike Triplet, a long 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: time Saints feet reporter who you can follow on Twitter 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: at my Triplet Mike how Is. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: For Week twelve, Oh it was, it was all right. 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I was covering the Saints in San Francisco the first 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: time they were shut out in twenty one years at 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: thirteen laws. Who knew the Saints could reach new lows 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: this year. I'm sure Alvin Kamara's fantasy managers are desponded today. 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: He had two lost fumbels in that game. I'm sure 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: we'll we'll talk about him when we talk about the 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Saints a little bit. But so I saw a thirteen 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: nothing game all the other fantasy points were going on 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: in other games. I wasn't covered fair enough. 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: You know, I think that NFC South is wide open 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: right now with these Saints and Bucks and Falcons. 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: They have to could we get a rule change? I mean, 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: is it possible the Panthers Panthers one game? They're the 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: hottest team in the division right now. 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: It's so bad. I mean, I just didn't think that 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: the Broncos would be that bad, and I came, I mean, wait, 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: like they were one point favorites going into this game, 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: so it's not like I mean, I just I was 33 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: very shocked at how bad the Broncos were. It's every 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: week they are they are achieving new lows, I think offensively. 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: So it's it's very painful to watch them. And it 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: makes me wonder if it Snithaniel Hackett, if Nathaniel Hackett's 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: going to get fired, or if it's Russell Wilson. And 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean that's a huge problem for the Broncos because 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: he's got one hundred and seven million dollars cap hit 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Any thoughts there, well, I mean, look, you're speaking of 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: the Saints. I mean that's a big topic with Dennis 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: Allen being a first year coach who's not succeeding. Are 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: the difference in those two places. Dennis Allen was hired 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: by the Saints longtime ownership who and they've worked with 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: him for a long time because he's been here since 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, even though he left and then 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: came back. Nathaniel Hackett is working for they just got 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: new owners there. I mean, if ever there's going to 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: be a coach who's won and done, it does feel 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: like everything is in place for Denver to revamp it 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: and try to make Russell Wilson work, because that is 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: a contract you can't get out from under. They have 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: to make Russell Wilson work. But it's probably the biggest 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: stunner in the NFL this season. 56 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I totally agree. I think that whether 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: or not it even if it is more Russell Wilson 58 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: to blame, they really just can't get away from that 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: contract right now. So they're going to have to have 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: to make changes elsewhere, even if it's it's really Wilson 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: that's the problem there. Don't really know. I'm sure that 62 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 2: we'll we'll see a little bit of a revamped Broncos team, 63 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: if not sooner rather than later. But in terms of 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: other shocking things that. 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Are having it behind you, you got it. 66 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: York Football Jets. Mike White is good. I don't know, 67 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm really not sure, but it was a 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: re just breath of fresh air after watching Zach Wilson 69 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: flail under center for for weeks now. And obviously there's 70 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: just a number of sort of things going on with 71 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: with Wilson not taking responsibility for things and and whatnot. 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: And now Mike White comes out and just guns of blazing. 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Obviously beats the uh the Chicago Bears, who are also 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: starting a backup quarterback there. This is obviously good news 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: for the Jets offense, I think because it just couldn't 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: get any worse before. I think it hopefully for the 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: like skill position players will be similar to how it 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: was with Joe Flacco under center. And I don't really 79 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: know what Zach Wilson's outlook is, you know, for the 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: moving forward. 81 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Really well, it's I mean, obviously it's not good. I mean, 82 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: this is a team that probably will go to the playoffs, 83 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: so I don't think this is temporary. They're going to 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: try to win we've been saying, you know, we didn't 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: know if it would be Flack or Mike White, but 86 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: but unfortunately it's been painfully obvious, not only to us 87 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: in the fantasy community. You know, it's how the Jets 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: players are talking. I mean they're like, you know, the 89 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: players were saying, free Elijah Moore. They had their own 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: whiteboards in their locker. I think just like you and 91 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: and said free Elijah Moore. In the back Elijah Moore 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: is quote, I have it in front of me. That's 93 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: why I'm pulling this up. So, he said he was 94 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: talking to the football before the game. I missed the ball. 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: I was talking to the ball, and I was like, 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: you already know how I feel about you. I was 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: kissing her and I was telling her it's going to 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: be soon. It's gonna happen soon. She told me she 99 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: loved me and wanted to get back like this is 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: happening with a seven win team in the NFL that 101 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: was so like they felt like their offense could not 102 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: perform with Zach Wilson at quarterbacks. 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: So obviously feels so much better about Garrett Wilson. Now, 104 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, you do, We're going to talk about him today, 105 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: but he only had two targets in the game, so 106 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, you still have to have cautious interest in him. 107 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: I think unfortunately the Michael Carter injury. The thing we 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: remember from last year is Zach Wilson's biggest problem last 109 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: year was he couldn't seem to throw the running backs, 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: and that's something Mike White can do better. So maybe 111 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: there's Ty Johnson interest, but we'll talk about that crowded backfield. 112 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: But basically it just makes them all relevant again, which 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: is really stunning that the number two overall pick of 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: the draft was having that effect on. 115 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: This Absolutely, it was a very interesting game to watch, 116 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: and I think suffice it to say, if it's Mike 117 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: White or Joe Flacka moving forward, it is good news 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: for the Jets. I think it would be coaching malpractice 119 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: if Sala puts stack Wilson back in time this year, 120 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: especially considering that they are contending right now. So good 121 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: news all around there. In terms of other things that happened, 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: your Saints were obviously shut out by the forty nine ers. 123 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: Do we think it they will make a change at 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: quarterback anytime soon? 125 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't think this week against Tampa Bay. Andy Dalton 126 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: was kind of I mean, they scored zero points, so 127 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: I won't say the least of their problems. But it 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: wasn't like he you know, he wasn't the one turning 129 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 1: the ball over, and he was making some decent throws 130 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: in the red zone that were bouncing off players, you know, 131 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: one week removed from his best game of the season. 132 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: I'd be a little surprised if he gets benched right now. 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: But if they're like I don't know, he can be 134 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: mathematically eliminated from the NFC South. But if they don't 135 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: win in Tampa, then they go into their bye week, 136 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: they'll have to think long and hard about what are 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: they playing for over the final four weeks. Do they 138 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: need a look at Jameis Winston. So that is entirely 139 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: possible and almost probable before the season is over, But 140 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how relevant that is for 141 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: fantasy anyway. I think the more relevant thing is, you know, 142 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: the fears of Alvin Kamara having all these quiet weeks 143 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: now and tisum Hill. We talk a lot about at 144 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: tight end. Basically, when this team can't run the ball, 145 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: it shuts down, you know, it goes into its turtle 146 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: shell and it can't do anything. And San Francisco has 147 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: a number one run defense in the league. I would 148 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: warn after watching that game any anyone who's on the 149 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: fence with a running back that's gonna go play San Francisco. Wow? 150 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: Is that is that team on point on defense right now? 151 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Don't let your running backs go up against the forty 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: nine ers. And I don't think it's a good matchup 153 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: Monday Night at Tampa Bay either, And then there's a 154 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: bye in week fourteen. So if you're holding out hope 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: for Saints players to re emerge, I think it doesn't 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: happen till you know week fifteen or beyond. You know, 157 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's hit or miss obviously, but they still do 158 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: some things well on defense. 159 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: I have one league right now that I think I'm 160 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: not gonna make the playoffs. And what's haunting me is 161 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: having Haagan and Kamara over just a number of guys, 162 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: including guys like Saquon Barkley and stuff like that. 163 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: So I don't think he's done. Like Alvin, Kamara is 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: not a completely give up hope guy yet. I mean, 165 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: and frankly, Fantasy playoffs Week fifteen is Atlanta Week sixteen 166 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: is at Cleveland. He could theoretically become the league winner. 167 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: I know it's too late to trade for him, but 168 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: certainly don't drop it. 169 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Gotcha? Gotcha? Well, one more crazy thing maybe they happened 170 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: to put the cherry on Sunday football, was Jordan Love, 171 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: who took over for Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers continues to 172 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: deal with that thumb injury, but then he also got 173 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: some kind of rib injury during that game. And Jordan Love. 174 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't a huge passing game, but six 175 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: of nine for one hundred and thirteen yards and a touchdown, 176 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: zero interceptions, any hot takes from there? Do you think 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: that we will see more of Jordan Love this season? 178 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: I guess you can't say it hurts Screen Bay's offense. 179 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers misses time because he struggled so much, 180 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking it helps. But the 181 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: most comforting thing of all is is the deep touchdown 182 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: pass to Christian Watson after Jordan Love came into the 183 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: game and Christian Watson, I think is our biggest weekly 184 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: decision question Mark, how much do you believe Christian Watson 185 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: can keep this up? So I think it was really 186 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: comforting to see he kept it up with Jordan Love 187 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: at quarterback. 188 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely well, that was obviously a very spicy sort 189 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: of draft pick back when that happened. And Rogers has 190 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: just been a big topic of sort of contention this 191 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: season because we're seeing somewhat different Aaron Rodgers than we 192 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: have been accustomed to in previous years. Obviously a four 193 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: time NFL MVP, so it's kind of painful to watch 194 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: him struggle a little bit this year. But in terms 195 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: of the injury front, we definitely had a number of injuries. 196 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: I just want to make a note that this MetLife field. 197 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on the field there, but 198 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: I mean, this has been years now that there are 199 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: just it seems I don't have the data, but it 200 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: seems like there are a lot of serious injuries that 201 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: happen on that field. So we had Darnell Mooney have 202 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: an ankle injury in that game. He needs season ending surgery, 203 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: which is just absolutely brutal because the Bears are pretty 204 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: breast of past catching talent outside of him. And then 205 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: Michael Carter on the other side of the ball has 206 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: sprained ankle. Don't know how serious it is, but I 207 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: mean we have to assume that he miss maybe sometime, 208 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: so definitely those guys are going to create I guess 209 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: holes for fantasy managers. We also have Travis Etn had 210 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: a foot injury. He was cleared to return, so I 211 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: don't think it's as serious as maybe fantasy managers initially thought. 212 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: But he did miss all of twenty twenty one with 213 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: the list s Frank injuries, so that's just something to 214 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: keep an eye on throughout the week if he ends 215 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: up being limited or a non participant in practice. Elijah 216 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: Mitchell has a sprained MCL, which I mean Christian McAfrey 217 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: is the guy, but Shanahan likes to rotate running backs there, 218 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: so maybe keeping an eye on Jordan Mason potentially. And 219 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: then Alan Robinson is now out for the season with 220 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: a stress fracture in his foot, so that leaves the 221 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: Rams even leaner at wide receiver and it they stand 222 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: out to you. 223 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: Well, I will make one injury related note. Uh. Last 224 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: week I thought it was very funny. I made the 225 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: point I think late in the podcast, uh to uh, 226 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, to invest in the in the potential you know, 227 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: league winners because of injury. Uh. And I think we 228 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: saw that play out this week, Samon JP, Ryan Rashad White. 229 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: Find those running backs who you know are just one 230 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: injury away from being like starting lineup lots. You know, 231 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: if Alexander Madison is still out there, Dontre Hilliard. I 232 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: don't know if Matt Breda qualifies. But you have these 233 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: bench spots to play with now and and I think 234 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: more than ever, it is so smart to use those 235 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: bench spots on runningbecks can pop in. But when I 236 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: made that point last week, I said, instead of instead 237 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: of keeping someone like Jay Jones on your bench. So 238 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what receiver I could 239 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: say you should drop this week to put the reverse 240 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Jinx on. I don't know who that is, DeMarcus Robinson 241 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: or Mac Collins or something like that, but I thought, 242 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that was another big story of this week, 243 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: I think was the guys who were playing because of injury, 244 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: because no Joe Mixon, because Leonard Fournett. 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As 280 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: a reminder, the Cardinals and Panthers are on by in 281 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: week thirteen, so we'll need replacements for Kyler Murray, Leandre Hopkins, 282 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: Marquis Brown, James Connor, DJ Moore, Junta Foreman. The list 283 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: for the Panthers is kind of short, so thankfully for Fantasy. 284 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Longer now though, Look, we should have put this in 285 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: the lead when we were talking about Mike White. Sam 286 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Donald feels like a DJ Moore whisper. I think, all 287 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's relevant again. I just dropped I 288 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: actually just dropped DJ Moore in a really competitive league 289 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: that I care a lot about picked up Paris Campbell 290 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: and Christian Watson and finally gave up on DJ Moore, 291 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: And maybe I made the wrong choice now that he's 292 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: got his buddy Sam Darnald. 293 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: Back, Yes, it definitely seems like he may have been unlocked. 294 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm cautiously optimistic about that. Also one other that week thirteen, 295 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: This is the Deshaun Watson return week, so he is 296 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: expected to make his first start for the Browns against 297 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: the Texans in Houston. He is not that available at 298 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: this point. I think it's just kind of been ongoing that, 299 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: like each week he becomes more rostered. So he definitely 300 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: broke the fifty percent mark. But if he's out there 301 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: something to consider as well. In terms of quarterbacks, we 302 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: talked about Mike White. He is four percent rostered. I 303 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: don't know if we just think this is like a 304 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: flash in the pan type anomally situation. But he's got 305 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: the Vikings next, so I think that that'll be a 306 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: nice matchup, so I think that he will be maybe 307 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: a fringe QB one in that matchup. I also like 308 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Jared Goff. He is forty six percent rostered, so he's 309 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: going to be going up against the Jaguars this week 310 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: that ranked thirty first in past Dvoa also has the 311 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: Vikings in the week after, and he handled a pretty 312 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: difficult matchup against the Bills pretty well. Two touchdowns in 313 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: zero interceptions. So those would be sort of my picks 314 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: for quarterbacks. Who are you looking at, Mike. 315 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a lot of season winners in this category, 316 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: but one that I still I double checked he's only 317 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: nineteen percent rostered still is Ryan Tannehill. I feel like 318 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: he fell into this class when the Titans had that 319 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: little loll in the middle of the season and he 320 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: was injured and they stopped throwing the ball, and then 321 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: he came back and wasn't quite himself, but he's still 322 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: throwing for close to three hundred yards a game since 323 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: he's come back. He didn't throw the touchdowns this week, 324 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: so he didn't have a big game, but he's like 325 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: a professional quarterback among some of these ones that you 326 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: have to kind of pinch your nose when you pick up. 327 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: So I like him better than most in this class. 328 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of pinching your nose, running back list is 329 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: a little lean this week. It's going to be headlined 330 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: by someone named Zonovan Knight, who actually rushed fourteen times 331 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: for sixteen yards and caught three passes for thirty four yards. 332 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: As we mentioned, Michael Carter Woods banged up in that game. 333 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: Ty Johnson was also involved five rushes for sixty two 334 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: yards into touchdowns, so he ended up with a slightly 335 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: better day for fantasy. But yeah, I mean night Out 336 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: snapped Johnson by account of thirty two point fifteen saw 337 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: significantly more touches. I expect. James Robinson was a healthy 338 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: scratch in this game, so I don't know if he's 339 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: going to end up having to be back in the 340 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: mix as well, But they do have a favorable matchup 341 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: against the Vikings to have allowed the ninth most fantasy 342 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: points two running backs this year. After that, it's I 343 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: mean we mentioned the injury to Travis et and Jamichael 344 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: Hasty had a very good game, caught five targets for 345 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: sixty seven yards in a touchdown, and rushed twelve times 346 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: for twenty eight yards. He would definitely be very valuable 347 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: if etn hastimas any time, but it doesn't look like 348 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: that necessarily. And then the last name I mentioned is 349 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: Kyron Williams. This Rams backfield is a mess, but he 350 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 2: did actually outperform cam Akers in this game, and we 351 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: know how that relationship is with the Rams kind of tenuous. 352 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: And Darryl Henderson was dropped this week, so Kyra Williams 353 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: could potentially emerge as a as as there areb one. 354 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: They do face the Seahawks and Raiders and Packers next, 355 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: so that is a very good schedule for running backs. 356 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: Anyone who out anything else on your. 357 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Radar, you said it, Kyra Williams is my favorite on 358 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: this list actually of the three you just mentioned, because 359 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: he's a guy who's trending up. For one thing, they 360 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: dropped Darryl Henderson, as you mentioned, then his share of 361 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: that offense is going up, and you know he's a 362 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: he's a rookie running back on a lost cause. I 363 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: mean you could only imagine that he's a guy they 364 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: want to feature more as the season goes on and 365 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: see what they have in him. I think he's a 366 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: guy who's trending up. I mean, yes, son of a 367 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: Knight will be a popular pickup. James Robinson might be 368 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: a popular pickup. But that's the problem right there, is 369 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: they're both there and Ty Johnson has been different I 370 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: mean even when Michael Carter took over for Breecee Hall, 371 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: Michael Carter never emerged as the RB one. We thought, uh, 372 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: and then you know what, if Michael Carter only misses 373 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: a week, then you've got a really crowded mess. But 374 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: I would say, if you are picking someone up, it 375 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: is zon of A Knight over James Robinson. That's the 376 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: choice the Jets just made. James Robinson was a healthy 377 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: scratch because they wanted to look at Zonova Knight. And 378 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: then when Mark Carter got hurt, they looked at Zonova 379 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Knight a lot. In that game, he got a ton 380 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: of touches, performed well with them. You know, Robert Sella 381 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: was really complimentary of him after the game. So I 382 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: do expect more it looks for him. I just think 383 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: it's going to be sort of, you know, a Brian 384 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Robinson type situation where you know, like or Isaiah Pacheco, 385 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, some good games here and there, but still 386 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: being part of a crowded mess. And that's absolutely true. 387 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: In Jacksonville. Travis Hittam might not even miss a single game. 388 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: I think there was positive injury reports on him, and 389 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: then they're the ones who just picked up Daryl Henderson, 390 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: so maybe he plays next week. So counting count on 391 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: to Michael Hasty to repeat this perform at your pails. 392 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know, looking at the Jets in general, 393 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: I love that I actually have mentioned a Jet at 394 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: every single position in my waiver. Wise, yes, they are back. 395 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: I don't want to overreact too much, but onto the receivers. 396 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: Elijah Moore is definitely going to be a popular pickup. 397 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: At just twenty six percent rostered. We obviously thought this 398 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: guy was maybe on the move out of New York 399 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: briefly when he was requesting a trade and he had 400 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: like three weeks straight of just zeros there. He actually 401 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: missed a game against the Bills, but you know, it 402 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: looks like he may re emerge. I know that Mike 403 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: White did spread the ball around. You think he targeted 404 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: ten different receivers in the game. So Garrett Wilson is 405 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: the only one that I really trust. But Elijah Moore 406 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: had a good season last year and definitely has the 407 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: pedigree to be a fantasy relevant receiver. So definitely someone 408 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: that I would want to put back on my radar. 409 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: Jamison Williams we mentioned him last week. He is back 410 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: at practice. I don't know if he plans on if 411 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 2: their plan is to play him this week, but someone 412 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: to definitely keep an eye on because of just you 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: know how talented he is. We talked a lot about 414 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: him last week of just how he could have probably 415 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: been the number one receiver off the board, even in 416 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: this super stacked class if it were not for him 417 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: tearing his ACL in the college football playoffs. And then 418 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 2: DeAndre Carter definitely a name that just keeps kind of 419 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: popping up. I mean, we got Mike Williams, it has 420 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: this high ankle sprains and he's going to be out 421 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: for a while. He actually saw the most targets of 422 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: anyone on that team, and they have a really soft 423 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: schedule coming up against the Raiders, Dolphins, and Titans, so 424 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: I think those will all be matchups that I think 425 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 2: we could consider Carter in deeper leagues as you know, 426 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: a potential flex type guy. And the last guy I'll 427 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: mention is Van Jefferson. We mentioned that the ram are 428 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: just really lean right now at receiver Robinson out for 429 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: the season and Cup dealing with the ankle injury. Jefferson 430 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: did see a season high and team high seven targets 431 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: in the lost caught three passes for twenty nine yards 432 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: in a touchdown, But you know, the opportunity could certainly 433 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: be there for him to emerge. 434 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like this is the most uninspiring receiver 435 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: list maybe we've had all season. Don't you think, like, yeah, 436 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: none of. 437 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: These feels like he has lottery tickets. But they all 438 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: strike me as like guys that you could use maybe 439 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 2: in an wide receiver three slot. 440 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: Right, you have two choices at this time of the season. 441 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: And my buddies A Jones, who I own apology too. 442 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: But the reason I thought of Jay Jones last week 443 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: is because I had probably picked him up five times 444 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: at least, Because what Jay Jones has been all season 445 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: was the guy getting you, you know, five catches for 446 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: you know whatever it is, you know, playing number two 447 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: receiver snaps, playing a full time role. So you can, 448 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: I think, believe what you saw, not that he's going 449 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: to have one hundred and forty five yards again this season, 450 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: but that he had already firmly established himself as a 451 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: wide receiver too. There I put him in sort of 452 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: in that Donal Donovan Peoples Jones category. So those are 453 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: the ones who you know, their role is pretty clear. 454 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: You just you know, temper your expectations. But if you're 455 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: just trying to make sure you're not getting a zero 456 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: in that category and you can maybe get a little more. 457 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone else, like you said, lottery ticket, Elijah 458 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: Moore a lottery ticket. Jameis Williams for sure. DeAndre Carter's 459 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to believe in that. You know, I would 460 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: have thought Josh Palmer, and now Josh Palmer would probably 461 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: get dropped everywhere, So maybe he's the right lottery ticket there. 462 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, one person who's kind of sky Moore would 463 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: be in the lottery ticket category, but I just don't 464 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: know how he's going to get consistent targets with all 465 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: the receivers they have in Kansas City. And then and 466 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: then one guy who's probably in that, Jay Jones Donovan 467 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: Peoples Jones categories Michael Gallup. He just the guy who 468 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: kind of gets his five catches every week and doesn't 469 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: do a ton with them, but as part of a 470 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: real help power offense. So another one. I think he's 471 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: over the fifty percent threshold, so he finally got off 472 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: this list. But Paris Campbell's only about fifty percent roster, 473 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: and he plays tonight. You know how you can sometimes 474 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: in a league sneak and a guy, so you know, 475 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: just in case, you know you're watching him tonight and 476 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: you see him get targeted twelve times, maybe put him 477 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: on your bench now and sneak ahead if you can. 478 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Isaiah Mackenzie, I feel like, also falls into that category. 479 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: I mean he I think he would require an injury 480 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: to either step On Diggs or Gabe Davis to be 481 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: someone that you could even trust. But he did catch 482 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: six and ten targets for ninety six yards and a 483 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: touchdown wide receiver seven heading into Monday night. So there's 484 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: a number of guys out there if you, like you said, 485 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: need a warm body at the position. And finally, onto 486 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: our favorite position, the tight end position. The best ones 487 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: that I could think of are Foster Moreau and Tyler Conklin. 488 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: Foster Moreau thirty nine percent. He actually did perform well 489 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: against the Seahawks, who are just absolutely terrible against tight ends. 490 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: Caught three of seven targets for thirty three yards and 491 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: a touchdown that was a second touchdown this year. He 492 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: gets another soft matchup against the Chargers, who are allowing 493 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: the fifth most fantasy points to tight ends, So just 494 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: someone worth thinking about if you have a sketchy sort 495 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: of tight end situation. Conklin started off the season really 496 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: strong with Joe Flacco under center, tightened four and half 497 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: ppr through the first three weeks, and then weeks four 498 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: through eleven tight end twenty and that's even a little 499 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: bit inflated because he had that one two touchdown game. 500 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, really struggled with Zack Wilson under center, as 501 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 2: did most of the pass catchers, so maybe he has 502 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: a little bit more life left in him. With White 503 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: under center, caught three of three four fifty yards, like 504 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: I said, got that Vikings defense coming up again. And 505 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: then one other name that I'll throw out there is 506 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: Hunter Henry. Though it's just tough because John Newis Smith 507 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: is sometimes the guy Hunter Henry. Sometimes the guy Smith 508 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: wasn't targeted in this game. So it's just it's not 509 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: a super stable sort of position in England. 510 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Sketchy unstable. You are hitting all the correct words, all right. 511 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: So here's my best advice tight end this week. If 512 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: your trade deadline hasn't passed, Josh Jacobs, now while you 513 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: can and trade him for Travis Kelce. So if you 514 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: can do that, But jeez, I like my strategy from 515 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: last week. Make it a fun game. Get your kids 516 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: involved if you have kids, dartboard involved, if you have 517 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: a dartboard. Because it's different, we're doing different names every week. 518 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could say maybe if David 519 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: and Joku is still available, we you know, he's back 520 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: from injury, his quarterback situation might improve and he had 521 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: a good game. But the names on the list and 522 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: the ones we've talked about that maybe Juwan Johnson, Katott 523 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: and Greg Dolcich, they're not even on the list. 524 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: That touchdown, also called back to Rich, was just painful. 525 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: There were a number of like pain full fantasy moments, 526 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: one of them being obviously the long Derek Henry round 527 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: that he fumbles the ball and it counts as a 528 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: touchdown for Traylon Burks, which by the way, is a 529 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: name you should definitely check your waiver wires. Yeah, he 530 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: is fifty one percent rosters, so did not make the here, 531 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: but definitely looks like he's blossomed into a very strong 532 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: wide receiver in Tennessee. 533 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Well, for you know, our producer David and myself with 534 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: the Taysom Hill advice all the time. I would say 535 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: there is going to be one more week before the 536 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: season's over, that Taysom Hill is the right choice. It 537 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: just won't be. I don't think against Tampa Bay, it 538 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: won't be. Well, he's got to buy in week fourteen. 539 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: But I reserve the right to use the Taysom Hill 540 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: card one more time this season. But let's talk about 541 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: one position real quick that we never talk about on 542 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: this show. But this sort of goes with my advice 543 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: to pick up, you know, the running backs who could 544 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: be lottery tickets. It is time to beat your if 545 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: you're going to make the playoffs, it is time to 546 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: beat your fellow playoff opponents. To the defensive matchups from 547 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: week fifteen to week sixteen, and my number one advice 548 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: is look at the Houston Texans schedule in weeks fifteen, sixteen, 549 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: and seventeen and pick up the teams that are going 550 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: against them. Because if you did that this week, and 551 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: you know you had the best defensive league, you could 552 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: do that with the Rams as well. But the reverse 553 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: you know who you know? Was it twenty three points 554 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins defense this week fifteen points for the 555 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: Chiefs defense this week. Go ahead and find those ones 556 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden will become hotly contested items 557 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: once you're actually in the playoffs and beat everyone to 558 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: the punch. 559 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And if it starts to look like Justin Fields 560 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: is going to miss more time, the Bears could be 561 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: a good defense you could stream against. Sorry, the Bears 562 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: could be a good team to get a defensive stream against. 563 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: But that is a very valid, valid point. Go out 564 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: there and beat the wire before the playoffs start. I 565 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: have one question for you. I have a future bet 566 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: on the Panthers over six and a half wins. Oh wow, 567 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: and their schedule is pretty soft down down the stretch. 568 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: They've got the buy and then I believe they're facing 569 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: the Seahawks and I mean Saints in one of the weeks. 570 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Yea, so they're Grand Finale in New Orleans Week eighteen 571 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Your wager could be on the line 572 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: in Week eighteen. 573 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: What do you think? Do you think? 574 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Don't? I don't like your chances because I feel like 575 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: Carolina is so clearly I mean, they're not tanking, they're 576 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: trying to win these games, but they're so clearly motivated 577 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: to have high draft pick, whereas the Saints will be 578 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: desperately motivated to avoid the embarrassment of giving the Philadelphia 579 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Eagles their high draft pick. So so the Saints will 580 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: be like a five win team desperate to win in 581 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Week eighteen, and the Panthers will be like a five 582 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: win team that's like okay with losing in Week eighteen. 583 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: So for that reason, I don't love your bet. But 584 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: otherwise it's hard not to take the streaking, sizzling hot 585 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers right now. They might win the division. Do 586 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: playoff wins count? And you're over what if they win 587 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: the division at five and twelve and they get their 588 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: sixth the win when they host a playoff. 589 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: Game, absolutely brutal. No playoff wins do not contribute towards 590 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: the total. And I really seriously doubt they would win 591 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: a playoff game even if they made it to it. 592 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: But you know, they're a weird team, like they don't 593 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: win the games that you think they're gonna win. They 594 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: lost two games already this season due to missed kicks. 595 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: That was Week one, and then the first time the 596 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: Falcons will win I know the f Yeah, absolutely terrible, 597 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: But then they go out and then beat the Bucks. 598 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: So they're a team that, like you just can't really 599 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: their defense. 600 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: Is their defense plays hard. Their defense plays really hard. 601 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: Like Christian McCaffrey trade made it feel like a fire sale, 602 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: but they still have a really talented defense. 603 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: Definitely. Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed for those last 604 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: three wins and that will do it for this week's 605 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: episode of The Fantasy Flex. Mike, please remind everyone where 606 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: they can find your work. 607 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also cover the Saints obviously all the time 608 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: for New Orleans dot Football subscription site where we cover 609 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: the teams as detailed and maybe easing pain and suffering 610 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: has become part of our job description this year. 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