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Speaker 1: Northern Ireland for almost ten years and scams half a

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Speaker 1: She's left a trail of devastation in her and Mayor's

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Speaker 1: back into her other daughter's life. Marianne started sending money

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Speaker 1: of the Con Episode seven, The Hunt. I can only

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Speaker 1: Josh is a military vet who served in Iraq. He's

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Speaker 1: seen his share of life threatening situations, but this is

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Speaker 1: What made you think they were Irish gangsters? Did they

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Speaker 1: What did these men look like? They were wearing dark clothes,

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Speaker 1: You know, because even a good cause taken too far

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the person didn't do it though, or

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been good for it if the evidence

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Speaker 1: was there. But they're also scams two hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: from that Pacific Islands travel agency in Los Angeles, and

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Speaker 1: bringing that case up may not be allowed either, which

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Speaker 1: could hurt my case because the way she tricked all

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Speaker 1: that money out of Pacific Islands demonstrates a level of

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Speaker 1: criminal sophistication that proves she's a con artist. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much you knew about luxury travel, but

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Speaker 1: I now know more than most. So the only reason

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Speaker 1: she got caught is because she was on vacation. That's

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Speaker 1: the only reason they caught her while she was so,

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Speaker 1: she had this PayPal account that she named Pacific Islands

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Speaker 1: and she was taking customers payments because she took advantage

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Speaker 1: of a loophole that exists in luxury travel that when

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Speaker 1: you pay for your vacation your vacation, they're not paying

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Speaker 1: for your plane in hotel until the day before you go,

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Speaker 1: so all that money gets into a big pot. No

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Speaker 1: one's really keeping track. So she was able to get

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Speaker 1: in there and get out two grand over two years

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Speaker 1: by taking payments in her PayPal. No one was the wiser.

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Speaker 1: They knew they were missing money, they didn't know from where,

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Speaker 1: because she would fill out all the paperwork correctly and

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Speaker 1: make it look like the money went into the pot

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Speaker 1: when it didn't. It went into her PayPal, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't know. The only reason she got found out she's

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Speaker 1: on vacation. A customer calls to book another vacation and says, well,

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Speaker 1: Mayor's out. Talked to this lady, well can I pay

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Speaker 1: with PayPal like last time? And they're like, we don't

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Speaker 1: take PayPal. So that triggered an investigation and they caught

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Speaker 1: her red handed. That is kind of clever to figure

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Speaker 1: out the lay of the line pretty quickly at that

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Speaker 1: place and know how you can exploit it. It was

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Speaker 1: about to the tune about and had she not taken vacation,

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Speaker 1: like how how much longer would she would have been

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Speaker 1: five d thousand it would have been a million. They

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Speaker 1: didn't know. They knew they were missing money. They didn't

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Speaker 1: know from where, and she was so good at covering

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Speaker 1: up the paperwork in the tracks. She was their best sale,

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Speaker 1: this woman. They never suspected her. They loved her. JP

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Speaker 1: loved her because whenever JP was short on sales, he'd say, Mayor,

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Speaker 1: we need sales, and she'd bringing a hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere. But I'm sure now like a lot

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Speaker 1: of that was fake. Right, let me pull out on

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Speaker 1: my own accountant. Yeah, Deputy d a Plastic gets the

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Speaker 1: preliminary hearing set for on that day. A judge is

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Speaker 1: gonna look at all the evidence and look at Mayor

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Speaker 1: Smith and decide if there's enough here to go to trial,

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Speaker 1: or God forbid, decide to dismiss the case entirely. So

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Speaker 1: much is writing on this day, and Mayor still has

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Speaker 1: a few unbelievable tricks up her sleeve. As local ABC

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Speaker 1: News reporter Rob Hayes witnesses firsthand, when Marian Smith showed

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Speaker 1: up in Elie's criminal courthouse today, she was supporting a

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Speaker 1: pair of crutches. What happened to your foot? But Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Walton says, save your sympathy. We knew she was going

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Speaker 1: to pull something today, but to show up and crutches.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget when she did show up on crutches,

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Speaker 1: but I was gonna get that. She'd been coming to

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Speaker 1: court just fine for the arrangement and for all the

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Speaker 1: other hearings. But on the day of the preliminary hearing,

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Speaker 1: when a judge is going to be deciding if there's

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Speaker 1: enough for a trial, she comes in. She's on crutches,

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Speaker 1: and she looks like a homeless bag lady. And it

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Speaker 1: was more shocking for me than for you, because I

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Speaker 1: knew her as an Irish heiress, you know, makeup hair clothes,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy choose, like, that's the Mayor Smith that I knew.

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Speaker 1: So to see her on crutches that day, with this big, giant,

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Speaker 1: like beach bag, like a homeless lady, I knew it

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Speaker 1: was a con. But then I started wondering, is it

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Speaker 1: obvious it's a con, Like did you believe it for

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Speaker 1: a second that she legitimately needed crutches. I have to

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Speaker 1: reserve my comment on that one, and so does Mayor.

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Speaker 1: She won't talk about her new crutches or anything else

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Speaker 1: for that man. There a lot of people are accusing

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Speaker 1: you of scamming them out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any comments on that? Smith refused to

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Speaker 1: answer any of our questions, But she'll be facing more

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Speaker 1: questions in the court room, will she. Though Mayor's attorney

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Speaker 1: skillfully manages to keep kicking this case down the calendar,

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Speaker 1: a jury trial is eventually set for November, and one

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Speaker 1: month before her trial is scheduled to start, Mayor Smith

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Speaker 1: pulls the most brilliant con of her career, a conduct

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Speaker 1: sure to rally the jury to her side, a con

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Speaker 1: that's so insane it just might work. One month before trial,

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Speaker 1: Mayor files a restraining order against me, claiming I'm threatening

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Speaker 1: her with violence. She encloses a picture with the filing,

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Speaker 1: She says, is me stalking her at her church. I'm

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Speaker 1: forced to spend fifteen hundred dollars on an attorney who

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Speaker 1: shockingly explains to me, if a judge grants this restraining order,

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Speaker 1: you won't be allowed in the courtroom to testify against

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Speaker 1: her during a criminal trial. Could this be Mayor Smith's

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Speaker 1: checkmate move? Next time, on Queen of the con Mayor

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Speaker 1: Smith goes to any length to stop me from taking

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Speaker 1: the stand. Somebody would really have to prove that that

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Speaker 1: civil restraining order was false, which is a whole separate ball,

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Speaker 1: and her attorney tries to convince the court that I'm

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Speaker 1: the perpetrator, but will a jury believe me or con

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