1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Lyle. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: What's up? Man? 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing? 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing good? Brother? 5 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 3: Is this. 6 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Let's see? Yeah, that is what's going on his life. 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you read my text last night, right. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm reading it now. Let's see. Can I read it? 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure? Okay, So we also bleep my name out 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: at the beginning. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: Oh sure, okay, well yeah, we'll get rid of your name, Brandon. 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: If you're listening to this, let's get rid of this 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: gentleman's name. Okay, I'm gonna call you Seth. Okay, all right, Seth, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: you said I'd love to chat the next time you 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: call people. My wife and I separated and she's taking 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: our kids. She took twenty five hundred dollars from my 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: business account and screwed me. I have to keep running 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: the business and I'm virtually homeless right now. Damn, dude, 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: how are you doing? 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Man? Honestly, I'm all right, I guess so. 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, go ahead. I want to let you finish 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: your hold on. 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Let me step outside. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: But sure, thing man, Seth, Seth McFarlane, Seth Rogan, Seth Myers. 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Damn. I was gonna say Seth McFarland, but man, I don't. 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Seth miss McFarlane, my god, I 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: can't even talk. But I don't. I don't. I can't 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: think of any other ones. That's okay, we got Yeah. 29 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: That did Seth Rogan. We got Seth Rogan, Seth Myers, 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Well we got enough sets. What's going on in your life? Man? 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: How you doing? 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Man? Pretty pretty bad? Uh? Just just like you, just 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: like you read my text. So I run I run 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: a business. I run a cleaning business, and I started 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: about five months ago. This is the second time I 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: ran a cleaning business, though, And yesterday it was the 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: climax of our relationship. And we've been rocky for a 38 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: long time. And the past couple of weeks I've been 39 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: sleeping on the couch and there hasn't been a lot 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: of physical touch, whether that's sitting, hugging, not a lot 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: of sex. Obviously. We have three kids together. We've been 42 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: together six years this year. 43 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 44 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, So I left and she said she was 45 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna get her ship and she didn't want me to 46 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: come back, and blah blah blah. So I was like, okay, 47 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: So I gave her space and that made me virtually homeless. 48 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: But I actually have a place to lay my head 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks until this is all 50 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: figured out, and then I can go back home and 51 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: try to get into another apartment because it's not a house. 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: We just live in an apartment complex, and so I'm 53 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: gonna try to get into a smaller apartment and just 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: just do me. But yeah, man, like yesterday I left, 55 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: and like I said, I I'm the only authorized user 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: on the business account. I'm not really sure what happened there, 57 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: but I was getting some emails, some notifications, and I 58 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: was like, what's going on, you know, so I had 59 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: just looked at it probably an hour ago. I'm like, okay, 60 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Like I could get a hotel, I can try to 61 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: buy a car because me and her were sharing her car, 62 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: and you know, I was like, okay, I'm going to 63 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: get a lawyer, like, you know, I was trying to 64 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: line things up. But yesterday was Sunday, so it's like 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: everything is closed, especially in Utah, and yeah, just twenty 66 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: five hundred gone. And yeah, man, I don't really know 67 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: what to say. It's just it's a really horrible, shitty 68 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: situation and I'm not sure when I'm going to see 69 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: my kids. And this has already happened a prior time. 70 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: We were together for about three years and she left me, 71 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: and then we started talking again about ten months later, 72 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: after I had missed my my son's first birthday my 73 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: daughter's second birthday. At that time, we only had two kids. 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: And then we started talking again and we got back together, 75 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: had another kid, And here we are about three years later, 76 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: and it's happening again. 77 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: And you're twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine. 78 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: I just turned thirty in June. 79 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, cool, cool. So you guys have been together 80 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: for six years. How old are your kids? 81 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Uh? Five, three and one? 82 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Mmmmmmmmmmm mmmm So and you guys had this essentially the 83 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: same fight three years ago. 84 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Mm yeah, Yeah, I would say that's pretty accurate honestly 85 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: now that I'm kind of like comparing. Yeah, yeah, it's 86 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: just I'm the issue and I can't do anything right 87 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: and I'm an asshole. 88 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: And so what what's the thing, Well, what's the like, 89 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: what's the Yeah, tell me, like, what is what's the 90 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: fight about? What is the what is the issue? Exactly? 91 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: That is like getting between you guys. 92 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: The issue is And I'm not trying to like say 93 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm right in everything situation like this is just my perspective. 94 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: I know I'm not perfect. I know I've done shitty 95 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: things like let me. 96 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Let me, let me ask you, let me ask you this, 97 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: like in I guess to keep this relatively objective. If 98 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: I asked her what the issue is, what do you 99 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: think she would say to me? 100 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: She would say what she told me, that she feels 101 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: like she gets no help around the house and that 102 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how to treat. 103 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: Her when you feel like it's not true. 104 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: No, I feel like you know, like I said, I 105 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: run a business and a lot of the times that's 106 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: twelve hour days. I'll leave before every everyone's awake. I'll 107 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: come home when the kids are asleep, you know, and 108 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm the only one doing it, Like I have one employee, 109 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: and you know I'm out here trying to hustle and 110 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: provide for the family. You know, she doesn't work. And 111 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that as a bad thing. I'm just saying, 112 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm the I'm the soul provide her. 113 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: And so it's like when I come home like one, 114 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: there's not much to do. Two I am exhausted. I'm 115 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: the main point of contact. I do everything for the business, marketing, 116 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: the labor, you know, customer service, invoicing, doing all the expense, 117 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like and then 118 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: with the aspect of not treating her right, I feel 119 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: like that's a very mutual thing. You know. She's very 120 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: verbally abusive, just says the nastiest, meanest shit, and you know, 121 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I try to walk away. I try to walk away, 122 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: even like yesterday I walked into the bedroom and I 123 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: was just trying to get away from her because she 124 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: was just going off on me over the smallest thing, 125 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Like I was like, it was just so dumb, and 126 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, so I try to walk away, and she 127 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: doesn't like that, and then she came into the room 128 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: and it started again. And so yeah, I would say 129 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: that's her from her perspective, I don't help as much 130 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: as I could, and I don't treat her the way 131 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: she wants. But I feel the same way unfortunately, and we. 132 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Just when you like, what what when you've like talked 133 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: with her, what does she want you to do that 134 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: she claims you're not doing like she like, she feels 135 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: like you're not okay. So you're running this business and 136 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: it's taken up your entire life, and then when you 137 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,479 Speaker 2: get and then you just like don't have the capacity 138 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: to like help out as much at home, and she 139 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: wants you to have more capacity for her and for 140 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: the kids. 141 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the the other day, she said, you know, 142 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: like I would like to sleep in or I would 143 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: like you to do like a meal here or there 144 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: when you're home, and I'm like, I do I help 145 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: take care of my children, you know, Like I told her, 146 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Like I just don't understand. It's like how it seems 147 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: like you're telling me I'm not doing anything when it's like, 148 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, I've done dinner, I've done lunch, I changed diapers, 149 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: I wipe shitty ass asses. You know, It's like I'm there. 150 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm a very involved father. I love my kids more 151 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: than anything. If I could die right now to give 152 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: them the world, I would, you know what I mean. 153 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: It's like so it's like there's just like a disconnect 154 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: where I feel like, hey, I am doing these things, 155 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: and like from my perspective, I just don't feel hurt. 156 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel seen, I feel blamed. And that's and 157 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: it's just really hard because it's like she wants all 158 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: these things for me feeling heard, feeling seen, feeling like 159 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: she like like she can talk to me, and I 160 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: understand that, and I tried very hard. But when it 161 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: comes down to but when I'm trying to explain her 162 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: to her how I feel and I'm not heard or seen, 163 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm more criticized. And yeah, so it's just like I 164 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: think we love each other, Like I love her, I 165 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: am I in love with her. I wouldn't say that, 166 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: but I love her. I'll always have respect for her, 167 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: and I think she loves me. But I think there's 168 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: just like a disconnect in the relationship where she feels 169 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: she wants something and I feel like I'm trying to 170 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: give it and it's just not what she wants. And 171 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just. 172 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's a demoralizing feeling to like really feel like, 173 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: because I mean, Jude, Jesus cry, I couldn't live really 174 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: you have a Yeah, that's a tough like like three 175 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: kids running the whole business by yourself. Like it's like 176 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: it's a tough thing you're doing, and nothing about what 177 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: you're saying to me indicates that you're running at anything 178 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: more than like anything less than like maximum to your capacity. 179 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: Like I know you like dude, like you sound like 180 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: you sound like you are giving uh as much of 181 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: yourself as you possibly can, and then to do that 182 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: and have it be not enough is fucking demoralizing. 183 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: No, it is, and that's something I couldn't communicate properly, 184 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: I guess. And then from her petive. 185 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: Too, yeah, with the kid exactly exactly from her perspective, 186 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: she's probably also given one hundred percent of herself and 187 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: it's like not enough. It's really it's really hard, man, 188 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: it's really hard. And like you know, it's like like 189 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: what like what you guys are like the like like 190 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: trying to build a life the way you guys are 191 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: trying to do it is really hard. And I think 192 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: that you know, when both people are like working at 193 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: their maximum capacity and it's not enough and then they 194 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: start to like blame each other and whatnot, like you 195 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: like that, like this is the time when you just 196 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: like you need fucking like trust, you need to feel 197 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: like your partner is like on your side and not 198 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: like yeah, scheming against you, like, and it's it sounds 199 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: like you don't feel that way. It sounds like you 200 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 2: don't feel like this lady is like it's not like 201 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: you like, love her a lot, respect her a lot, 202 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: but you just don't feel like she's on your side. 203 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: No, and I she probably feels the same way. But 204 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I don't really know how to feel 205 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: now because like I'm out of twenty five hundred dollars. 206 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's not just like I don't know, man, 207 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: it's just a gonna It's been a twenty four hours, 208 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: you know, it's been a crazy It's been a crazy 209 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. 210 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: So so this this twenty five hundred bucks, what what's 211 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: the story with this? Again? She just took it and. 212 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: She she uh, she took it from the business savings, 213 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: which was not my money, not her money. I try 214 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: to be very separated, you know, like even though that's 215 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: the money we live on, when it's in the business account, 216 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: it's the businesses, you know. So yeah, she she took 217 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: it from the business account and transferred it into our 218 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: joint account and then transferred it to her PayPal. 219 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: Where dude, where is so? Okay? So you I have 220 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: three kids, won three and five? Where is she right now. 221 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: At our apartment? 222 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: Where are you. 223 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: At a job trying to keep the business running? 224 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: And where are you going to sleep? Tonight in the apartment. 225 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not going back there. It's just gonna escalate. 226 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to just sleep that someone I know from church. 227 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: That's really all that's really keeping me afloat right now. 228 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: If I didn't have these people from church, I would 229 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: have slept in a park last night and just spent 230 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: all day outside when it was one hundred and five degrees. 231 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: M Oh yeah, we're having this really crazy heat wave. 232 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: So it's like it's really hard to be quote unquote 233 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: homeless right now. One in you could probably die from 234 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: heat stroke from just sitting in the shade all day. 235 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: Damn man, m damn bro I I I really I 236 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: feel for you. I feel for you. This is this 237 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: is this is tough. Did you can I see it 238 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: before you guys had kids and all before. I was like, 239 00:14:52,760 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: did you sense issues like these before, like of these 240 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: like when you guys were just baiting. 241 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: No, at the very beginning, we were really happy. I 242 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: was talking to my friend last night about that, like, 243 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: where did that happiness go? You know, it's I don't 244 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: know how we got to this point, honestly, and I 245 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: I know it's just the feelings that she feels and 246 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: I feel and like, but like where did that like 247 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: love and happiness go? We were very happy, a lot 248 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: of laughing, a lot. 249 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Of yeah you know, when did you feel it start 250 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: to go? 251 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: Mmm? Probably after our second kid. 252 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: M But the first one it was fine. It was good. 253 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we struggled just because she was born 254 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: so early and stuff like that. She spent like the 255 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: nick the first while and the nick you and it 256 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: was rough. But yeah, I would say it wasn't too bad. 257 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: But I feel like a big problem was when we 258 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: had the third kid and she just wasn't herself and uh, 259 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: you know I understand that, you know, postpartum and stuff. 260 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: And I told her like, hey, like you need to 261 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: make an appointment, like you need to go like get 262 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: your meds checked out or you know, like figure out 263 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: what's going on. Because I told her like, this isn't you, 264 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: this isn't the person I married. Yeah, and you know 265 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: she said she would and multiple times she would make 266 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: an appointment and then cancel it either the day before 267 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: the day of. And you know at that point, that's 268 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: when I was working a regular job. So it's like 269 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: I really couldn't just like leave or anything. It's like 270 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't force her to the doctor anyways. But it's 271 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: like at that point, I really couldn't do anything because 272 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't leave because I wasn't you know, like I 273 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: was just an employee. So it's like I just kind 274 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: of had to take it as it is. And you know, 275 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: like even recently, like a month ago, I told her 276 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: the same thing, like, hey, like you really need to 277 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: make an appointment. Like and I'm not trying to make 278 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: it sound like it's her, like I'm not. No, I like, 279 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: I'm not like, that's not my that's not what I'm 280 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: trying to do. But I'm just saying, like, from my perspective, 281 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I could see a very clear mental decline after the 282 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: third kid, and it has to be, uh, you know, 283 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: correlated to the postpartum depression or whatever. And she just 284 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want to get it checked out. She just says, 285 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, what are they going to do? And I'm like, 286 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: probably a lot, Like what do you mean You're never 287 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: gonna know until you go and then you can feel 288 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: better and feel more like yourself. And so it's just 289 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: like a stacking up of issues where she doesn't feel appreciated. 290 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: I don't feel appreciated I feel like she's not herself 291 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: and it just kind of exploded yesterday and. 292 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, m well, you guys definitely got to go to 293 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: like a couple's counseling or something like that, because it's 294 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: there's clearly like, uh, I don't know, it's weird both 295 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: of you. Both of you are like communicating with each other, 296 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: but you're not like there's a there's some there's some 297 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: form of like disconnect here. It's very tough. 298 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened. 299 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: Okay, you said this happened three years ago, and then okay, wait, 300 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: so this happened three years ago, and then you had 301 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: another kid afterwards, so everything like repaired? How did everything repair? 302 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: How did they go? How did this resolve itself when 303 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: it happened three years ago? 304 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Well, we went through we were going through like a 305 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: divorce and a custody battle, and it was pretty nasty 306 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: and it lasted about eleven months, and then I was 307 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: finally able to see the kids and the judge said 308 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: you could FaceTime I think it was like two or 309 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: three times a week and see them blah blah blah, 310 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, cool. So one of the 311 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: first times we facetimed, we actually talked for like fifteen 312 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: minutes after I got done with the kids, and it's 313 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: kind of how it started. You were then we would yeah, 314 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, I told her how I felt. I said, 315 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: I love you, I don't want to break up the family. 316 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: This is really stupid, like and we both felt that way, 317 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: and then we decided to get another shot. And honestly, 318 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I feel like this business is kind of what destroyed 319 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: the marriage even really like that might sound well. 320 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: That might right, Wait, that might that might sound wet stupid? 321 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: Why just because like someone would be like, well, you 322 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: guys are more free and independent making more money, Now, 323 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: how would that destroy the marriage? It's like, well, because 324 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: of the role. She agreed to take care of the house, 325 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: I agreed to take care of all the financial responsibility, 326 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: and building a business isn't easy, and I am over 327 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: exerting myself just just to make sure we are more 328 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: than well off I am. You know, It's like I'm 329 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: doing everything I possibly can to grow it. I'm going 330 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: to like all these meetings and meeting other business owners, 331 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: and you know, it's like it's a lot. 332 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: So does she does she? 333 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: That's why I feel. 334 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: Does she have a problem with the fact that and 335 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: and if she does, it's totally fine. Does she have 336 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: a problem with the fact that you're working this much? 337 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I don't never really said 338 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: that directly. 339 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, is, like, like this this traditional 340 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: dynamic that you guys have of like, Okay, I'm gonna 341 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: do my I'm gonna do the biz. I'm gonna fucking 342 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna be at the Hilton Garden Inn 343 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: doing some networking. I'm gonna like, you know, be running 344 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: around twelve hours a day doing all this stuff. And 345 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: I will take full financial care of all of us. 346 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: You don't have to work, and then you can stay 347 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: home and you know, clean and cook and take care 348 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: of the kids and like that's our that's our like 349 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: clear defined separation of roles. And for some people like 350 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: that's that it works really well for them and they're 351 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: like really happy and like that's what they want, you know. 352 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: But that's that's the question here, Like is that, like 353 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: is that really what your wife wants? Like is that 354 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 2: like has she expressed that, has she like is that 355 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: really the life that she? 356 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean when we quit our jobs and stuff, 357 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: and I told her, like you know, like like we 358 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: set out those defined roles just like you were talking about, 359 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: Like we had a discussion about it, and she was like, yeah, 360 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: I want to be a stay home mom like blah 361 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I'm like, okay, cool. And then 362 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: so I don't think she has a problem with me 363 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: working all the time. I think now she just wants 364 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: help at the house. And I am mentally and physically 365 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: just exhausted. And when I come home and I've been 366 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: gone since seven am and now it's nine thirty pm 367 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: and I want to sit on the couch and I 368 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: don't try to do some dishes or whatever, then it's 369 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: it's a problem. But then when I ask her for 370 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: help with the business, I don't get any help either. 371 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: So that was kind of like the start of the decline, honestly, 372 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: because I'm like, Okay, well you want help, but you 373 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: refuse to help me. And she's cost a busy this 374 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: thousands because she said she was gonna help with the 375 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: job and she wouldn't and I couldn't use her car. 376 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: Well there goes six hundred dollars in a day, you 377 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Just like shit like that, And 378 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: uh so I don't. I don't think the underlying problem 379 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: is I'm working a lot. I think she expects me 380 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: to do what I said, and I'm I did it 381 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: and I'm doing it. But then she just wants to 382 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: extra help around the house. But then, like I said, 383 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm just exhausted. It's it's hard. It's like I can't 384 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: come home. 385 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: You kids are one, three and five. Yeah, when did 386 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: they when? 387 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: Uh? 388 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Do you live in a place that has daycare for free? 389 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: No, we don't. She didn't. She didn't want to put 390 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: them in daycare. They were in like a preschool as 391 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: she was doing her job and I was doing my job, 392 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: and that was one thing she hated. So that's the 393 00:23:58,960 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: way she didn't want to them. 394 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: Then she too come out of preschool. 395 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, why because she wanted to be home with them. 396 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: Fuck manh uh. 397 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean all three of them were in a preschool already. 398 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: And then she was like, yeah, I don't want to 399 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: keep them in preschool. I don't want other people raising 400 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: our kids. We only see our kids a couple hours 401 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: a night. Like start the business just like you did 402 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: last time, and like like provide for us. And I 403 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: was like cool, sounds good, all right, anyways. 404 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: So she was. She was on the same page as like, 405 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: all right, like I almost out this business, like she 406 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: was okay, So it sounds like you guys had I 407 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 2: would have to hear her perspective on this too, but 408 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: like it sounds like you guys had an arrangement and 409 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: with you something, it's had an arrangement of like clearly 410 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: defined roles, and now at least she is no longer 411 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: happy with that arrangement. 412 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's That's what I'm getting from. So just all 413 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: of our conversations. So if we sat down and talked 414 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: about it, yes. 415 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: So that's the case. So that's the case, right, Like 416 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: do you sit down with her and be like, all right, 417 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: this thing that we said we were going to try 418 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: to do, I'm not happy and you're not happy. It's 419 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: clearly not working. What's let's rewrite the constitution? Right? What 420 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: what is a what is a What does a new 421 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: draft of this deal together look like? 422 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: Hmmm? Yeah, I didn't really think of that really, because. 423 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like I would sit I would sit that, 424 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: I would sit down with her and be like, listen, 425 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: this is not working. Listen, you're really unhappy. This isn't 426 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: working out for me. I love you very much. I 427 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: love our family very much. I want to keep the 428 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: family together because you have two things, because you want 429 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 2: to you want to try as hard as you. I 430 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: kind of think and I don't know, man, I don't 431 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: have answers to these kind of cosmic questions. I think 432 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: of them as of like, you know, to what point 433 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: do you stay? And to what point do you leave? 434 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: Like what? 435 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: Like? Like objectively is a relationship? Objectively are two people's 436 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: lives better together than they are a part? I don't know, 437 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: But for right now, it's like, if you want to 438 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: fight for the marriage, I think you got to sit 439 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: down and be like, Okay, this previous version we had 440 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: of our lives mapped out is not working for either 441 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: of us. Let if you and if you're and here, 442 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: actually actually that question of should we stare should we go? 443 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of based on this right you 444 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: say to her, I want to make this work. I 445 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: want to sit down with you and be like, Okay, 446 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: this version of our lives is not working. Let's talk 447 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: out what a new version of this would look like. 448 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: Let's talk out what you need, let's talk about what 449 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: I need, and then let's like really and if she 450 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: says she's game to work on it and shows you 451 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: that she's game to work on it, and you show 452 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: her that you're game to work on it, then you 453 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: should work on it. But if she is like, doesn't 454 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: really want to work on it, and just if she 455 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: doesn't really want to work on it, then that's your answer. 456 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: And then it's like, Okay, well now we have to, 457 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, see what our lives look like better separately. 458 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: But like writ try to get try to sit down 459 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: with her and write a new constitution, you know, because 460 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: there's so many things. Yeah, Like there's so many different 461 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: aspects of it, Like she took like taking the kids 462 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: out of preschool, you starting this new crazy business that's 463 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: taken up all of your time and all of your life, 464 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: her having like a three kids. Like there's just there's 465 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: so many variables to your life that I just don't 466 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: I don't think you guys have found the correct rhythm. 467 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: And by the way, maybe you had the correct rhythm 468 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: for five years and you two evolved as people tend 469 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: to do, and whatever rhythm worked for you in the 470 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: past doesn't work anymore. So now we gotta go. We 471 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: gotta sit down and go Okay, what's a new rhythm 472 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: that's gonna work for us? Are we just two different 473 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: as people now for even us to be able to 474 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: make this work. But you got to sit down and 475 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: approach it and in a way of like we got 476 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: to find a new rhythm together. So that's what I 477 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: would do, is just sit with her and you know, 478 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: try to try to rewrite the agreement. Have you guys? 479 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: Have you talked about her that with her? 480 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean I talked to her, not like rewriting like 481 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: our roles, but I mean. 482 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: When when's the when's the last time you guys? Okay, 483 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: like the whole like traditional relationship, the whole thing of 484 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna stay home and take care of the kids 485 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: and cook and clean. I'm gonna work for twelve hours 486 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: a day. When was that established and agreed to? How 487 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: long ago? 488 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: January of this year? 489 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been unquestioned since. Yeah, Okay, it seems 490 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: like it's time to question it at least. 491 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I I do agree. I just think 492 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: it's unfortunately it's too far gone. 493 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: You say she's you say it's done. What did she 494 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: tell you? 495 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, she told me that she wants me out while 496 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: she's gonna pack the stuff, and she's gonna get all 497 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: the stuff and go to her mom's house. And she said, 498 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: then we can talk about custody and things of that sort. 499 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: After Do you want that's why I left? 500 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: Do you want to be with this lady? 501 00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: Honestly, honestly, I feel like the only reason and I 502 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: would ever stay with her right now is just for 503 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: the kids. 504 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you know what. 505 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Like I think we're just both really unhappy. Yeah yeah, 506 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: And it's shitty, it's shitty. 507 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Mmmm are you 508 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: able to stay in the same location as your kids? 509 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: Well, they're with her. So I just I told her 510 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I would just give her her space. 511 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: Okay, And she said, okay, all right, all right, So 512 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: it sounds like he's going in a different direction. 513 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just told her I'd give her her space. 514 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, Like, I'm not really trying to fight, and 515 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: every time we're together there seems to be some sort 516 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: of verbal argument or something of that sort. And honestly, 517 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm just exhausted with it. And if she wants me gone, 518 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: and she wants to pack her her shit and the 519 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: kids shit, and she wants to leave and go to 520 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: her mom's house, like I'll give her that space because 521 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: like I at this point, like I am just super 522 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: exhausted all the time because I feel personally like when 523 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: I come home, I'm walking on eh shelves and I'm 524 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: just done feeling like that, like, yeah, this will suck. 525 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to see my kids as much and 526 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: the family's torn apart, and that really really sucks. At 527 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: the same time, I'm trying to look at it with 528 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: some optimism, like I'm not going to feel like this 529 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: every single day. 530 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, my I'll tell you a 531 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: few things that might make you feel a little bit 532 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: more optimistic if if this is the case I was. 533 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: I was on a whole thing about like rewriting the 534 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: rules of the thing. But it sounds like sounds like again, 535 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: neither of you guys want to really do this, and 536 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: you just, you know, are don't feel like if you 537 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: just feel like it's too far gone. I'll say this. 538 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: You know, my parents grew My parents were together. We 539 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: had about seven years where like we were all in 540 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: the house and together, and then my parents split up 541 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: and they were they feel I had a great childhood. 542 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: You know, my dad lived like fifteen minutes down the road. 543 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: I never felt like he wasn't in my life, you know, 544 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: my parents not necessarily like my parents had like their 545 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: beef with each other and stuff. But like, at this point, 546 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: right if you're just like I don't really want to 547 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: be in a relationship with this woman, I really just 548 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: don't want to break up the kids, It's like, don't 549 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: be afraid of Like, fuck, my kids' lives are going 550 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: to suffer because for a few reasons. One is that 551 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: if you're just keep raising children in a family where 552 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: the husband and wife just fucking hate each other, that's 553 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: worse than them splitting custody with mom and dad. This 554 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: is worse. 555 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, So, like. 556 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: I would be optimistic about the fact that you can 557 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: still be a very very successful father, You can still 558 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: be in your children's lives, like I just like as 559 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: a child of divorced parents, like you can absolutely be 560 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: a successful father without being together. And also I also, dude, honestly, dude, honestly, well, 561 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: a couple of things. Do you the whatever city you're in, 562 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: do you have a problem with being there your entire life? 563 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: Do you like that city? 564 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: No, I don't have a problem being here. I mean 565 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: I grew up around the area. And okay, uh does 566 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: she So yeah, she's from the same state, but she 567 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: grew up probably an hour or so. Oh oh my god, 568 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: I cannot talk or so north of where we currently are. 569 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: Okay, So nothing crazy, Okay, And dude, dude, can I 570 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: be honest, like just like from the stories I've heard 571 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: on this show and like just in life and whatnot, 572 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: Like I know you're bummed out, but like, dude, you're 573 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: kind of getting now this pretty good. Do you wanna? 574 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. There's like like it's not 575 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: like there's like an infidelity or something crazy where like 576 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: you two just like fucking hate each other. It's just 577 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 2: like like it just it just didn't. It just didn't 578 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: work out. Like there's no like like she's pissed off, 579 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: but she has no long term reason to resent you. You 580 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: have no long term reason to resent her. So that's good. 581 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: Like you guys are in a perfect position to be 582 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: able to go parent with each other. You clearly care 583 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: about your children. Like it it's just I I think 584 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: you can still be a very good dad, and I 585 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: think you can still be a successful dad, still be 586 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: heavily involved in your children's lives and and and amazingly enough, 587 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 2: do all that without having to feel like you're walking 588 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: on eggshells around a person, and like you can actually, 589 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: like you know, exist in your life authentically and you 590 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: know your kids. Your kids are not gonna like your 591 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: kids aren't gonna hate your kids are gonna your kids 592 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: aren't gonna like grow up without a dad or anything 593 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: like that. Like I get you're not gonna be able 594 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: to like spend as much time with them as you want, 595 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: but also do. But also, dude, you're like a fucking 596 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: you're you're just like crazy twelve hour day entrepreneur guy. 597 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: Like you'll be able to have a better Like you'll 598 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: be able to have a good balance, like senior kids, 599 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: like like being i don't know, being a dad half 600 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 2: the time, being at work half the time. Like you'll 601 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: figure out a way to have a good balance and 602 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: be all the things to all the people that you 603 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: want to be. Right, So, you know, I'm optimistic for 604 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: the future of your situation. I think you should be 605 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 2: optimistic for yourself. 606 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: And a lot of people say that to me, and 607 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm just. 608 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: Damn yeah, I think you'll be fine. 609 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 3: Man. 610 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people say that, yeah, I think you're 611 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna be just it's just city right now. It's just yeah, 612 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: but I'm trying. I'm trying to be optimistic. I'm just 613 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: like it's just rough. Like this morning, I just wanted 614 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: to crawl up in a hole and just die. That's 615 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: how I felt this morning. But like I'm glad I'm 616 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: out here and working and just I just got to 617 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: keep busy because if I let my mind go crazy, 618 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm going to be in a bad space. 619 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: So that's that's a main thing right now. 620 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: Just like I said, just before we go, I know, 621 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: we I've kind of talked your ear off to death 622 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: about the stuff, like before we go, like what do 623 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: you like? What do you what do you? What are 624 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: you anxious about? 625 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: What am I anxious about? The future? Just the future, 626 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: just not knowing what's gonna happen, not knowing if she 627 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: really hold up her end and let me see them, 628 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: because like I said, this happened before and I didn't 629 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: see them for ten months and oh really so yeah, 630 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: so it's like I don't really know if ah fuck, 631 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't really know if I can trust that or 632 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: if we're gonna have to go back to court and 633 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: battle it out, because the way she was talking is like, 634 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: I'll let you see him, and we can agree on 635 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: a set payment and you could just like send me 636 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: money every month and then like that'll be like the 637 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: child support and we'll just keep the courts out of it. 638 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, but like she said that, but 639 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: she tells me things I like to hear all the time, 640 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: and then it doesn't happen. So I'm just like, that's 641 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: just what I'm anxious about. It's like, is that really 642 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: going to happen? Like when I call her and she's 643 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: gone and I'm trying to see the kids, is she 644 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: going to let me? 645 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: Damn? She can't wait. What happened in those what happened 646 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: in those ten months. 647 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: She went to her mom's like she's doing now, and 648 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: so this is like virtually the same thing. Just years later. 649 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: She went to her mom's and uh just uh wouldn't 650 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 1: answer calls or emails or she blocked me on everything 651 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: and just wouldn't talk to me. And there was a 652 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: point where I even drove up there on Father's Day 653 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: knocked on the door and they ignored me, and I 654 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: called the Sheriff's office and they knocked on the door 655 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, she's not gonna lie you to 656 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: see them. And I'm like, how we're still married, Like 657 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: there's no court orders saying I can't see my kids. 658 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's that's where the anxiousness is coming from, 659 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: because I've already lived through the same exact experience that's 660 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: just starting and it went very badly for me. Like 661 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: I said, I miss a bunch of scenes, like my 662 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: son's first birthday, my daughter's second birthday, I miss Christmas, Thanksgiving, 663 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: Father's Day, everything. 664 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: Do you have a lawyer? 665 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to hire one, but then, like 666 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: I said, she took all my money, Like she literally 667 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: left me with just like fifteen hundred dollars and. 668 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: Ye can can can sell is if anyone's if anyone's 669 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: an attorney, can you email me? I want to Could 670 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: I anyone work for this guy probo? And I would 671 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: to help him, help him see his kids. Man, that 672 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: fucking sucks, damn fuck. 673 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So she kind of put me in a bad spot. 674 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, because like I was literally gonna call 675 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: a lawyer today and like everything, Like I was gonna 676 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: do that and like I said, I was getting those 677 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: weird I was getting email notifications. I'm like, what the 678 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: fuck is going on with my bank? So I log in, 679 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: money's gone. I'm like, what she took one deposit of 680 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: five hundred and then another two thousand, So like, honestly 681 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: right now money to Yeah. 682 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: You need a lawyer fucking asap. 683 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, yeah, I know. I'm just I'm just 684 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: kind of like just trying to keep the business running 685 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: and trying to keep some income coming in and then 686 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: like like she left me with enough money to like 687 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: pay some my employee and keep the business running and 688 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: buy materials and pay for ads and like that's really it. 689 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: Mm though, like she kind of fucked me over pretty 690 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: good in that sense. 691 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 3: M hm. 692 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: So, and I'm actively talking to the police department about 693 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: fraud so m hm. Like I said, that didn't come 694 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: from our personal account. She took that from the business account, 695 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: which she's not even on. 696 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: A fuck man, I'm so to hear about all this money. 697 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah no, man, I'm sorry to hear about all this, seth. 698 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: But I will if I can, if I can leave 699 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: you with anything. On the optimistic front, I'm hoping that 700 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: like yeah, fuck no, I'm worried. I'm worried about it too, 701 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: because because if it happened before, Fuck yeah, if she 702 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: like this happened before, it's hard to say that it 703 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 2: won't happen again, which just fucking sucks. But if I 704 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: can leave with any optimistic note, it's that I I 705 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 2: do think your children will like like, your children will 706 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: know that you are a good dad. Nothing about like 707 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: you're like like when I think about like into like, 708 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 2: I think that the ways in which people kind of 709 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: intuitively are an act like if like in in in 710 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 2: their good ways and in their bad ways, they're always 711 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 2: made a parent to the people in their lives. And 712 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: from talking to you for like this long, I just 713 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 2: get the sense to you intuitively act in ways that 714 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: are in the best interest of your family. And I 715 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 2: know I'm a stranger, but I have faith that the 716 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 2: way you intuitively act for your family will be picked 717 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 2: up by your children and appreciated, even if it, uh 718 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: is is difficult in the moment. So uh you know, 719 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: hearing your story, I have faith in that, but you know, 720 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: I know, I know it's a fucking shitty road. Send 721 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 2: an email The Therapy Gecko mail at gmail dot com. 722 00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 2: For a lawyer in uh in where and wherever Seth lives. Yeah, dude, 723 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: hang in there, man, this is a fucking tough one. 724 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I appreciate it. Man, I appreciate you calling. 725 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: Is there anything else I can I can? Uh do 726 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 2: you for? No? 727 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: I I think it was a good little venting therapy session. 728 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: I'll say one more thing. This happened to me today 729 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, it didn't happen to me. 730 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 2: I just saw it. I saw something, Dude, I saw 731 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: something to that really upset me. Maybe it's on the 732 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: maybe I can link these two things together. I was 733 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: walking down the street and I saw this, Like, dude, 734 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: I saw something to that really fucking upset me. I 735 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: saw this like, I was walking down the street and 736 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 2: I saw this. I walking down the street and I 737 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 2: heard someone screaming like fuck you. Don't you ever fucking 738 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: disrespect me like this? You fucking And I was like, oh, 739 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: this is like a like a person like tweaking out 740 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: on drugs or whatever. Yeah, and and then I turn around. 741 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: I look and it's this like huge dude like screaming 742 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: in his daughter's face like with ye, yeah, there's this 743 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 2: huge fucking guy like screaming in his daughter's face with 744 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: like all of like all like his complete, utter, full 745 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 2: adult force. This huge, fat guy just like fuck you 746 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: don't you fucking like his like the veins in his 747 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 2: fucking face are like pierced coursing out people every people 748 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 2: are staring at him, the girls like you know, in tears, 749 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 2: and people are staring at him, and he's like looking 750 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 2: at them, being like, uh, what the fuck are you 751 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: looking at? You come and fucking closer, off, fucking kick 752 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: your fucking ass. You fucking look at. 753 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: Me like that. 754 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 2: And He's screaming at this fucking kid, and I'm just like, God, 755 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 2: this guy's a fucking loser, piece of shit. And then 756 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 2: I was like I like walked he passed them again, 757 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 2: and he was like this guy's a lunatic. He was 758 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: like he was like comforting her, and he was like, 759 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm still your daddy. You just can't, you know, 760 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: disrespect me like that. You can't embarrass me like that 761 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: in front of people. And I was like, dude, you're 762 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: fuck you're fucking embarrassing yourself, like, you know, treating your 763 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: fucking kid like that. It was just crazy, and I 764 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: just was like I was just seething. I was like, 765 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 2: there's not gonna fucking do a bad It was just seething. 766 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 2: And so so you're a better dad. Yeah that was 767 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 2: in New York. All this is to say, you're a 768 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: better dad than that guy. The bar's pretty low, pars 769 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 2: pretty low, bars pretty low. Bar is pretty low. But 770 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 2: you're a better dad than that guy. So at least 771 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: there's that. 772 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is that is a positive. Uh, 773 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: at least I'm not a worse dad than. 774 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: Him, Seth, Is there anything else you want to say 775 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go? 776 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: I would say to the people, if you are really 777 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: unhappy in a relationship and you have kids, don't say 778 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: for the kids. And uh, don't get back with that 779 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: person if you are if you left them for a reason, 780 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 1: because uh it's been a big mistake and I'm gonna 781 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: have to rebuild my life and uh, just keep your 782 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: own happiness like center, you know what I mean. Just 783 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: make sure you're happy. And if the person that you 784 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: love isn't making you happy and is rude, just leave 785 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: who you who will be better? 786 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah you're the man. Good luck to you, man, all right? 787 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 2: See Elile, have a good one. But that was Seth. 788 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: Seth's a good guy man. I feel for Seth. He's 789 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: a better father than the fucking I was yelling at 790 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: his kid. That's that that guy sucked. It's funny. I'm 791 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: like pretty, I'm like, i'd like to think I'm a 792 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 2: pretty fucking. 793 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 3: Like. 794 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 2: It takes a lot for me to be like that 795 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: guy's a like for me to like with full like 796 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: like okay on gut reaction. It's easy to be like, oh, 797 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 2: that guy's a fucking asshole, but then I almost always 798 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 2: am like I was, I'm almost like that guys fucking assh. 799 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: I think about a little blog, I'm like, ah, whatever, 800 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 2: but like that, it takes a lot to be like, no, 801 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: that guy is just piece of shit. And I was like, Okay, 802 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 2: is a fucking piece of shit anyway, Seth not Seth. 803 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: Seth's a great guy. S that's a good dude. I 804 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 2: feel for a man that's tough. Well, please, if you're 805 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 2: a lawyer, reach out. I actually I have no idea 806 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 2: how to get in touch with Seth again, but uh, 807 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. If you're a lawyer, let me 808 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: know anyway. Yeah, Hello, Hey, what's up man? 809 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: Ooh Hey, How are you? 810 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 2: How am I? I am all right. I'm looking at it. 811 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 2: Some trees right now, they're very green. 812 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 813 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 2: I feel okay in my body. You know, I'm working 814 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 2: on it. I think it's there's so many variables, you 815 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 2: know what I mean. There's so many variables that affect 816 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 2: one's mood. There's these, there's drugs, there's sleep. There's an 817 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: infinite amount of external factors, and so it's hard to 818 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 2: determine what the real solution is. But I'm trying the stuff. 819 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: You know. I'm drinking some water. That's not true. I drank. 820 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: I didn't drink what I drank A I drank a celsius. 821 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 822 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 2: So I have a little bit of energy. I had 823 00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: some sushi, had a protein shake. I haven't had any candy. 824 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 2: Those are the worst days some days I've had where dude, 825 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 2: I went to a fucking I'm I think I've talked 826 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 2: about this on the podcast before, but I've I went 827 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,760 Speaker 2: to a maybe I have. I went to an overeater's 828 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: anonymous meeting once. Maybe that this might fuck with the anonymousness. 829 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: You know, you're probably not supposed to do this, but whatever. 830 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 2: I there was a woman who talked about like eating 831 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 2: a whole chocolate cake and feeling nothing. I think that's 832 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: okay to say it's anonymous, it's just a random woman. 833 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 3: But I mean so again, that was me that it's 834 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 3: a cake. But now it's okay, you have my permission 835 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 3: to talk about it. 836 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, this woman talking about and then I was like, 837 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 2: oh I I had I was I. I kind of 838 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 2: was like she I heard her say that. And then 839 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 2: there was a day I went to the Family Dollar 840 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of the day and I got I 841 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: got lemon head ropes. They're ropeifying everything now. I don't 842 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 2: know if you know this. It's a it's a new phenomenon. 843 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 2: They're ropeifying everything. I got some hot tomalities, and I 844 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 2: got some butterfinger bites and I ate them all and 845 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: I was like, it was a very like, oh man, 846 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: Jesus kind of feeling this is kind of crazy. But 847 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 2: I've been not doing that, which is great, So I 848 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 2: feel good. The sun is out, I'm looking at uh. 849 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 2: I bought a new pair of sunglasses. That feels nice. 850 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna start trying to dress like a 851 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 2: real adult. I know that I dressed like a gecko, 852 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 2: but uh, I think dressed on like a real adult 853 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 2: could be nice. I'm thinking about getting a chain, not 854 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 2: like an expensive one, like a like a fifty dollars. 855 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 2: I bet I could probably get like some shitty chain, 856 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 2: you know, Like I feel like that's a whole new guy. 857 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: You know, I've been seeing a lot of guys with 858 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 2: chains and like they're wearing like the collar trying. I'm like, oh, 859 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 2: I could be like a real guy. I could wear 860 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 2: like a chain. What kind of guy would that be? 861 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 2: It doesn't come natural to me to wear jewelry or 862 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 2: to dress nice or like I've never cared about like 863 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 2: nice clothes. But lately I've been seeing guys with nice clothes, 864 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I but that feels good to like, 865 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean, Like there's somebody 866 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 2: like to go to bring it back to the eating stuff. 867 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 2: It's like there's so many things that really there's a 868 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: real spectrum. I think in terms of being dead and 869 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 2: being alive. And I think that like like something about 870 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 2: like wearing intentional clothing, being outside, and not having eaten 871 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: candy that day. It strikes me as being closer to 872 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: the living part and as opposed to the being dead part. 873 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: So I want to join the living. I want to 874 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: be part of the people, and so I'm doing that. 875 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 2: I'm being I'm trying to join the living. I might 876 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 2: get a chain. Do you do you ever? You have 877 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 2: a jewelry? 878 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: Well? 879 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 3: I wear a watch every day. But I was gonna 880 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 3: say I do. But could I comment on something you 881 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 3: said that struck me as true? 882 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I think. 883 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 3: Uh, I think that what you said about living with 884 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 3: intention is a big part of all of these decisions. Like, 885 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 3: I think that's living life in a way closer to 886 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 3: maybe how do you describe it, like a real human 887 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 3: or like a real real person. I think that, Yeah, 888 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 3: just like acting with intention and like choosing to put 889 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 3: nerds on a rope and call that a new candy, 890 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 3: like someone did that. That's a real thing. Happened, right, 891 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 3: and now we're talking about it. 892 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 2: But that's your It's true, and that's the that's the 893 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 2: difference between like being dead and being li acting with intention. 894 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 2: That's like real live time, you know, and that makes 895 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 2: it makes you respect the guy. You see a guy 896 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 2: uh walking around with like you know, like he's well 897 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 2: dressed and you're like, this guy paid attention to certain 898 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 2: aspects of his life, right, the more yeah, that's the attention. 899 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 2: Intention is the key word. Like when I went, like, 900 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: when I have an unintentional day, it songs me. The 901 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 2: the problem is like, uh, yeah, you know you have 902 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 2: an unintentional day. You wake up, you scroll your phone, 903 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: you eat whatever, you know. But if you like, Okay, 904 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay attention to what I do right when 905 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 2: I wake up and pay attention to what I eat 906 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: or pay attention to what I wear, I'm gonna pay 907 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 2: attention to like the time. That's the I think. Guess 908 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 2: the problem is that intention, intention requires a lot of energy, 909 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 2: you know, so you gotta summon the energy for that intention. 910 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 2: Some people it comes naturally to other people not so much. 911 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: But I think the more intentional I can live my life, 912 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 2: the better. Wouldn't you say? Anyway, that's all I'm doing. 913 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:13,839 Speaker 2: How you doing? 914 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 3: I'm doing good? 915 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: Could I? 916 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 3: Uh, There's something I promised my therapist i'd do if 917 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 3: I ever talked to you. I was hoping we could 918 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 3: like take a taking a deep breath together and just exhale, 919 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 3: and like anyone that might be listening down the road. 920 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: Could do that with us. 921 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 3: So we all have this like global breath. I think 922 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 3: that would be really cool. 923 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 2: Would be well? I have quite have questions for you 924 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 2: before we start doing a whole thing. You told what Okay, 925 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: let me read you probably texted me something. Let me 926 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 2: read that. 927 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been listening to you since pandemic and 928 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 3: calling all the time, texting all the time, crazy stuff. 929 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 3: Saw you in Philly twice in the road saying oh. 930 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, my man, my man, Okay, okay, your name is 931 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 2: Sean and you said you said my therapist said I 932 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 2: should talk to you. Let's talk about that you've brought 933 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 2: because you brought up your You texted me this. Oh 934 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 2: you texted me that three okay three, two and a 935 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 2: half years ago, you said my therapist should talk told 936 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 2: me I should talk to you, and then you brought 937 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 2: up your therapist. Just now, why does your therapist want 938 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 2: you to talk to me? I'm curious? 939 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 3: Oh, not like, not like she can't handle me. More 940 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 3: like I bring you up all the time, and I 941 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 3: think I'll think she's offended. Oh. I learn. I learn 942 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 3: a lot from you. I I make a lot of 943 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 3: decisions not based on you, but like you, the people 944 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 3: you talk to, the way you describe life. It helps me, 945 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 3: you know, put on another person's parent glasses and kind 946 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 3: of see life through their eyes. 947 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 2: Really okay, I'm it makes me nervous. I you know, 948 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 2: I that's very okay, Sorry, I'm getting flustered. How is that? Okay? 949 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 2: Important question? Main question? How has that been going for you? 950 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:03,959 Speaker 2: And what? 951 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: Uh? 952 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 2: Because I want to I wanta because I don't know, man, 953 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 2: I say all kinds of stuff. I want how Okay, 954 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 2: you say that you've been not making it, but that 955 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 2: like listening to the show and and me talk and 956 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 2: the other people talk, has has influenced you in some 957 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 2: way to do certain things? What? What things? And how 958 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 2: has that been going for you? Because I'm nervous. I'm 959 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 2: hoping that they're I'm hoping these are good things. I'm 960 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: hoping they didn't encourage you to like I don't know, be. 961 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: What? 962 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell tell me what does it encourage you to do? 963 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get back to the breath later. Maybe that's 964 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 3: how we hadly call. But you know, everyone deals with 965 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 3: a problem or or a difficulty in their life. And 966 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 3: like there's a guy that called in about having a 967 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 3: real wanting to have relationships with a minotaur years ago. 968 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: Do you talk about remember. 969 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 3: That, and I think, yeah, I think about him a lot, 970 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 3: not like because I have those thoughts, but man, everyone's 971 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 3: got their own thing that they're going through, right totally, 972 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 3: And uh, I think that there's a lot of commonality, 973 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot more that we have in common 974 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 3: than I think people give credit to. People love to 975 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 3: celebrate their differences and what makes them unique. But like, 976 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 3: I got something that I'm dealing with too, and listening 977 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,919 Speaker 3: to the train guy or the guy in the cave 978 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 3: like it helped me. Yeah, it it just kind of helped. 979 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 3: It's like humbling. I think it's easy to get focused 980 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 3: on like life through your own set of eyes. 981 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, totally, you know. 982 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 3: Kind of kind of hearing what other people are going through. 983 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 3: Like I I was just eating candy from a bowl 984 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 3: easing chop sticks because I didn't want to get my 985 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 3: hands sticky while I was working. 986 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 2: WHOA can't wait? WHOA wait? What were you eating with chapsticks? 987 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 988 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 989 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 3: Do you know what dots are? They're like a South brand. 990 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 2: Dots are I think, Yeah, I know what dots are. 991 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 2: I think dots are evil. Oh, like I put I 992 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 2: put dots in the same category as milk. Duds where 993 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 2: it's like, there's no way, there's no way to eat 994 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 2: this that won't just fuck up your teeth immeasurably. Am 995 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 2: I wrong? You seem like a dots guy. 996 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 3: Big dots guy. Yeah, I don't know about the teeth thing. 997 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think I have. But hey, everyone 998 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 3: has their own sets. 999 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 2: Of problems problems. 1000 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, So like you try chop sticks, especially if you 1001 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 3: you game. I think it's a good way to not 1002 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 3: get cheeto dusts on your controller. 1003 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: Interesting, I can't eat in game. I'm not like a. 1004 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm not good at that. I can only like, I 1005 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 2: guess I can even get Sometimes I'll hold a Yeah, 1006 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 2: I mean sometimes I like I have the switch. I'll like, uh, 1007 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: if I'm playing something where you only need one of 1008 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 2: the joy cons, I'll like, maybe eat something while I 1009 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 2: hold the other one. It's nice. You know what another 1010 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 2: problem is is someone there's so many. I was talking 1011 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 2: about the spectrum of being dead to being alive. It's like, 1012 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 2: you know, I think the most alive time I have 1013 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 2: the most part of society I am is when I'm 1014 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 2: fully dressed, I'm outside, I'm around other people, I'm like, 1015 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 2: you know, doing something I'm filming something, I'm making something, 1016 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 2: I'm around. I'm just in life, right. But then also, 1017 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, playing the Switch while eating chips, it's a 1018 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 2: nice thing. I've had periods. I've probably talked too four, 1019 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 2: but I've had little times where like I was playing 1020 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 2: my Nintendo and eating chips, just like in my house, 1021 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 2: and I paused the game and I put it down, 1022 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 2: and just for one second, I was like, you know, 1023 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 2: I feel really honored that in the brief uh cosmic 1024 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 2: uh uh a blimp of time that I'm alive on 1025 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 2: this planet, I get to eat chips and play Paper 1026 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 2: Mario one thousand year Door Switch remake. You know, I'm like, oh, 1027 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 2: this is nice, is good. I just take once. I 1028 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 2: gotta acknowledge it. But you know what this you know 1029 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: what you take, You're you're right. This takes us back 1030 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 2: to intention, right, because if I'm just playing fucking over, 1031 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 2: what if I'm just playing some random fucking thing just 1032 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 2: to speed it up, It's like, this is not But 1033 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 2: if I if I pause the game and just for 1034 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 2: a second, I'm like, I am intentionally deciding to spend 1035 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 2: my finite time on Earth playing the Nintendo Switch remake 1036 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 2: of Paper Mario on thousand Year Door, and I am 1037 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 2: I am not only okay with that choice, I am 1038 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: honored by I am honored that I have the cognition 1039 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 2: to do it, you know what I mean? Fantastic, Sam, 1040 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 2: Sean Sam? 1041 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1042 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 2: What else? 1043 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Do you? 1044 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 2: What else? 1045 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: I think? 1046 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Do you you? What else do you mention about your 1047 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 2: what is your What else does your therapist have to 1048 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 2: say about what you've told her about the show? I'm curious? 1049 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I mean we talk a lot about intentionality, 1050 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 3: and like, you know, I think if you if you 1051 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 3: play video game because I'm home from work, like are 1052 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 3: you go into this automatic routine and then it's like 1053 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 3: the video game is playing you. But if you choose 1054 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 3: the video game, now, suddenly you're in the moment, like 1055 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 3: you're I think that that's most of my advices are 1056 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: an attempt to be in the in the present is 1057 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 3: a little ironic. 1058 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, That's what addiction is. 1059 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. So like you can 1060 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 3: take ownership of that by by choosing it intentionally, you know, 1061 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 3: like I think my dog chooses things intentionally. I think 1062 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 3: you choose to spend time with me or not. But 1063 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,479 Speaker 3: like I don't know that a rock chooses to be there, 1064 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 3: so that's that's like important. But I talk about this 1065 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 3: with my with her, and uh, I don't know that 1066 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 3: she gets it in the same way that you might, 1067 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 3: because you know, her and I are talking like positive psychotherapy, mindfulness, 1068 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 3: and then I drop these like yeah, but does this 1069 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 3: does the rock choose to wake up every day? And 1070 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 3: like how does the rock get out of bed? Or 1071 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 3: I love like shadows? 1072 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 2: Oh wait wait, I'm just now realizing. Do you mean 1073 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 2: a rock or the rock? 1074 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 3: Oh joined the rock Johnson? 1075 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:41,919 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1076 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 2: Are you talking about a rock? Are you talking about 1077 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 2: Dowayne the Rock Johnson? 1078 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 3: I mean both are interesting questions. I was talking like 1079 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 3: in inanimate rock, But you know, the rock makes doing 1080 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 3: the rock Johnson makes different choices. I mean, he man, 1081 01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 3: what's like to be him? 1082 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Right? 1083 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 2: What is it like? I bet it feels good. I 1084 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 2: bet it feels good to be Dwayne the Rock Johnson. 1085 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 2: I bet it feels good. You know, you know what's 1086 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 2: fun is uh? Like you know the whole you know. 1087 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 2: People people like to say this is my official stance. 1088 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 2: People like to say, oh, everyone has problems or issues 1089 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 2: that you don't know about. That's not true. There are 1090 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 2: some people on this earth whose lives are immeasurably great. 1091 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 2: They're way better than yours, and they've never known darkness 1092 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: their entire life. They feel good every day, they had 1093 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 2: wonderful childhoods. If they just their lives is amazing and 1094 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 2: full and complete. They have sex all the time with 1095 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 2: beautiful people, and you know, their life is great, and 1096 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 2: they're gonna live to ninety and there it's gonna be 1097 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 2: just great the whole time. They're like the fact that 1098 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 2: everyone has something that they're going through. I don't think 1099 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 2: that's I think there's I think most people do. But 1100 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 2: there are definitely people who are just gonna have amazing, 1101 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 2: perfect lives forever. But you shouldn't compare yourselves to those 1102 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 2: people because you know you're not them. So just you know, 1103 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: you got you, but you, but you are you, and 1104 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 2: there's nice things about being you. So you know, those 1105 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 2: are your cards. You didn't get the best, amazing cards, 1106 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 2: but what do you but you got cards. You're dealt in. 1107 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 2: You know you don't wanna, well, you rather you rather 1108 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 2: have cards than just be fucking not even playing the game. 1109 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 2: You know, I just don't like it. I don't like what 1110 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 2: people are like. Oh I'm envious of this. And then 1111 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 2: people are like, well, their life is not so good. 1112 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 2: It's like, well, a who cares if their life is 1113 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 2: so good? And be It's like it probably is, but 1114 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 2: so what, there has nothing to do with you. You 1115 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 2: know what what Dwayne the Rock Johnson could have a 1116 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 2: perfect life and it has nothing to do with me. 1117 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 2: I still got to do. 1118 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you ever hear interviews with like those people 1119 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 3: with perfect lives and they're like, well, what's next? It's 1120 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 3: like I don't. I don't need anything, like I have 1121 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 3: all the money I have, like all the people in 1122 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 3: my life, like I could see with anyone I want, 1123 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 3: And I don't think they're I don't know. I'm not 1124 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 3: sure that they're always happy in an enviable way, like 1125 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 3: maybe they're not in control of their lives or they're 1126 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 3: not making those intentional choices or I mean, for me, 1127 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 3: the struggle like not even a struggle, just like the 1128 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 3: growth and the transition is fun. Like I live for 1129 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 3: growth and learning new things. I'm super curious. So if 1130 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 3: I knew say that you gave me a magic wand 1131 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 3: or like you bestowed on me infinite wisdom, that would 1132 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 3: be like torture because there's nothing else to grow, There's 1133 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 3: nothing else to learn, of course, so why would you 1134 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 3: So I think some people are envious of that, but 1135 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 3: don't be Yeah, like enjoy the journey, like you mentioned. 1136 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 2: Let's see, your name is Sean. Yeah, you said my 1137 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 2: therapist said I should talk to you. You're you're that 1138 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 2: you were talking to me about your therapist and then 1139 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 2: now you're you're talking to your therapist about me. And 1140 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 2: then what what did you say that? What did your 1141 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 2: therapist say exactly like when they were giving you advice 1142 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 2: when they said you should talk to the gecko guy? 1143 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 3: M I think I've talked to her about if I 1144 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 3: get on, what am I gonna say? And that's it 1145 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what I say. What matters is that word 1146 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 3: we have in this moment, which I've thought about for 1147 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 3: so long, And you know, I feel very intimately talking 1148 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 3: to you, like I can't see you. I know sometimes 1149 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 3: you stream and people probably watch you as they're talking 1150 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 3: to you, but I don't know what You're doing, and 1151 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you don't know what I'm doing. So 1152 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 3: it's kind of like we have the same set of 1153 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 3: cards in front of us in this moment. Did the 1154 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 3: did there is no expectation, right. 1155 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 2: Did this conversation at least live up to your expectations 1156 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 2: of it? 1157 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't know that I had expectations, but I'm really 1158 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 3: enjoying it right now. 1159 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 2: Well, thanks, Sean, I appreciate it. I gotta tell your 1160 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 2: therapists that we talked, and then uh see what they 1161 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 2: see what they say when you're like, hey, I talked 1162 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 2: to a lizard. 1163 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to always wanted to tell you what 1164 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 3: I think, like what I think life's all about in 1165 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 3: like three little little phrases through three little words. 1166 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 2: You will you want to tell me what life is 1167 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 2: all about in three words? 1168 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 3: It's not really three words. I guess it's like three 1169 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 3: like legs of a stool, if you will. 1170 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 2: Three legs of a stool. What are the what are 1171 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 2: the three legs of the stool? 1172 01:07:59,680 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1173 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 3: I think it's creating cool things with cool people, sure, 1174 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 3: in an authentic way. 1175 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 2: Creating Oh that's that's the stool, creating cool things with 1176 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 2: cool people in an authentic way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 1177 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 2: think that's that's pretty similar to what, uh, I think 1178 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 2: my stool is. Like, you know, I've learned over the years, 1179 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,759 Speaker 2: like all that really matters is like what you're actually 1180 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 2: doing and who you're doing it with. So I'm I 1181 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 2: think you have a I think you have a good stool. 1182 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 2: I like that. I like the I like the use 1183 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 2: of the word. I like a stool as a metaphor 1184 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,480 Speaker 2: for a life philosophy. 1185 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,600 Speaker 3: M hmm. Well, if you think about it, if you 1186 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 3: lose one of those legs, because life happens, the whole 1187 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 3: school balance for a while, you lose I don't know 1188 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 3: if you ever had a stool, but if you lose 1189 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,360 Speaker 3: one leg, the thing gets fucked. 1190 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 2: But maybe it's a four legs you can you can 1191 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 2: sit on a uh what thing only needs maybe four legs? 1192 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a chain of bike only has two wheels 1193 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 3: and you kind of you can balance on that for 1194 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 3: a little bit. 1195 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,640 Speaker 2: You're a genius. That makes sense. Damn okay, all right, 1196 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 2: yeah that makes sense. You can still balance on the stool, 1197 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 2: you know. 1198 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 3: Don't not prolong though, I mean, you gotta you gotta 1199 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 3: build that leg underneath you when you can, and hopefully 1200 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 3: you have like friends and to support networks that can 1201 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: help you. 1202 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 2: Sean, is there anything else you want to say to 1203 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go. 1204 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 3: I just I just want to take that breath with 1205 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 3: you if we could do that. 1206 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,759 Speaker 2: Okay, we can take a breath you ready? 1207 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeahs do it. 1208 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling Sean. 1209 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for being here. 1210 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 2: Hey, folks, Uh, this is Lyle. I'm gonna do a 1211 01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna end the episode today by doing a little 1212 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,879 Speaker 2: segment I call gek mail, which is where I read 1213 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 2: emails that people wrote to me and then I ponder 1214 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,560 Speaker 2: them in the same way that people call me to 1215 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,760 Speaker 2: say words and I ponder them. This time, I'm going 1216 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 2: to read an email and I will ponder it. So 1217 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 2: let's read this email that someone send me. If you 1218 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 2: want to send me an email, you can send one 1219 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: to therapy Gecko mail at gmail dot com. Anyway, Oh wait, 1220 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna read two emails because there's one email that 1221 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 2: I want to read. Okay, okay, So before I read 1222 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 2: this email, there's this guy. His name is Chris, and 1223 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 2: he's been send He's been emailing me over and over 1224 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,679 Speaker 2: again about how he's going to start a bay blade 1225 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 2: tournament in his community. And then I think he actually 1226 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 2: did do it, or maybe he said he was going 1227 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 2: to do it. Hold on, I'm reading I'm rereading the 1228 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 2: old emails. Oh okay, okay, okay, okay. Last time, okay, 1229 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 2: last time he said to me, okay, okay, here's where 1230 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 2: we're right now. Last time he messaged me about it, 1231 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,840 Speaker 2: the tournament was happened, was the tournament was scheduled to 1232 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 2: happen on July eleventh, which was two days ago. And 1233 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 2: then now this is an update. I believe he's telling 1234 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 2: me how the bab Blade tournament went. Okay, this is 1235 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 2: from Chris final update on starting a bay Blade community 1236 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 2: in my city. Uh hey gek. Yesterday we held the 1237 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 2: Bayblade tournament and it was lit. We ended up having 1238 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 2: seventeen players. Damn. That's pretty good, including a bunch of 1239 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 2: new people from the area. I planned to keep organizing 1240 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 2: bay Blade events because it's been such a good vibe 1241 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 2: and I want to bring it to other people. Last 1242 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,759 Speaker 2: time I forgot to mention it. But I'm from Leuvin, 1243 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 2: a city in Belgium. Getting seventeen people in a fucking 1244 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 2: little city in Belgium to come hang out and play, 1245 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 2: uh play bay blade is pretty sweet. That's pretty good. 1246 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 2: Do what the hell's even going on in Belgium, Louvin. 1247 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll do a show in louve In, Belgium. If 1248 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 2: I get one, I wonder if I get one person 1249 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 2: to come. Man, every time I look at a map, 1250 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,839 Speaker 2: I'm like so many people, so many things love in Belgium. 1251 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 2: What's going on in Louve in Belgium? Okay, anyway, our 1252 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 2: community is still new and not really on social media yet, 1253 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 2: but we'll make an Instagram soon. If there are people 1254 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 2: who want to join our Belgian bay Blade Association, they 1255 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 2: can find me on my Instagram. Cricky Underscore have Okay, 1256 01:12:53,240 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 2: that's k r I kk E Underscore HAV. I will 1257 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 2: then send them a form so they can submit to 1258 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 2: join the group. Thank you for reading my mail. You're 1259 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 2: a cool gecko. I hope to see you at one 1260 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 2: of your shows or running to you in the park 1261 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 2: if I visit New York. Peace Chris, that's awesome if 1262 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 2: you live in if you live in Belgium, please go 1263 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 2: go to this guy's bab blades tournament. I love that. 1264 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 2: I love that ship dude doing a thing. I love 1265 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:31,639 Speaker 2: when people do things. It's great bay blade community. Damn dude. 1266 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 2: I feel like a proud father to Chris. I'm very 1267 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm proud of him for doing this. Bay Blade. Shit. 1268 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 2: This is great, dude. The babelade community is kind of 1269 01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 2: popping off. I was at a thing. I was at 1270 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 2: a Smash Brothers tournament, like a few weeks ago, and 1271 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 2: in the same venue they were doing Bayblade. It looked 1272 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 2: like it looked like a cock fight. People throwing money 1273 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:59,559 Speaker 2: down and everything. It's pretty sweet. All right, Okay, I'll 1274 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 2: read one more. Let's see. All right, this is from 1275 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 2: Mikaela subject line short king Love. Let's see. My fiance 1276 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:24,679 Speaker 2: is five foot six and I am five foot nine. Respect. 1277 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 2: I love that man, and I'm endlessly proud of him. 1278 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,759 Speaker 2: When we met, he never once was insecure about his height. 1279 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 2: He says. The first thing I said to him was 1280 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 2: that he was shorter than I expected parentheses. I don't 1281 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 2: remember this, he replied, Yeah, so anyway, would you like dinner? 1282 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was cool how we just brushed it off. 1283 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 2: Since then, we've built a beautiful relationship. Sometimes people make 1284 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,679 Speaker 2: weird comments, but we just laugh. One thing he always 1285 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 2: says to short men is that you just have to 1286 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:59,600 Speaker 2: be interesting, develop a hobby, improve your body, dress for 1287 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 2: your boy type, and study how to talk to others. 1288 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 2: When he was younger, he watched YouTube videos on what 1289 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 2: makes people charismatic and how to have engaging conversations. He 1290 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 2: also took leadership and communication courses while he was a marine. 1291 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 2: He's incredibly charismatic. Now people are drawn to him. He's 1292 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 2: a natural leader, and his height is irrelevant. I'd like 1293 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 2: to give my perspective as a woman on dating short men. 1294 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 2: I haven't always been confident enough to date a short man. 1295 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 2: I was insecure of what other people would think, and 1296 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 2: I put their feelings above my own. Eventually, I realized 1297 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:43,800 Speaker 2: my anxiety was inviting disrespect from others. WHOA, that's honestly fascinating. 1298 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 2: That's a fascinating take on like being anxious what other 1299 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 2: people think of you. It's inviting disrespect from other people actively. 1300 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 2: That's fascinating. That ended that. So to the short men, 1301 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 2: it's not about your height. Many women feel pressured to 1302 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 2: prove their worthiness, and attaining a tall man is an 1303 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 2: easy ticket to doing so. Understand that no person has 1304 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 2: to ever prove that they're worthy. My fiance is my 1305 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 2: perfect man. He has every quality I've ever wanted in 1306 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 2: a partner. Funny enough, I don't think I've ever had 1307 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 2: added height to the list. I guess it never mattered. 1308 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 2: Side note, short men get you a tall women, get 1309 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 2: you a tall woman. For me, tall men make me 1310 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 2: think of my brother, So it's not something I look for. 1311 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 2: So y'all have options if you're brave enough to climb 1312 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 2: a tree. See you in DC gek or see you 1313 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 2: in DC GAK. She's not gek. She wrote another thing 1314 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 2: above about face paint. But I gotta stick to my 1315 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 2: I gotta stick to my own brand. But thank you, 1316 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 2: thank you for that suggesting anyway. Mikaelah Mikhaela, you're a hero. 1317 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 2: H Your boyfriend sounds pretty dope. I love this email. 1318 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 2: Is a great email, Dude, It's true. It is true. 1319 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm five foot six, five foot seven 1320 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 2: something like that, and it is true that like insecurity 1321 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 2: will like yeah, sure, like a lot of women don't 1322 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 2: want to date a short guy. And like a lot 1323 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 2: of women, here's the thing, Like, if you're a short guy, yes, 1324 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 2: a lot of women don't want to date a short guy. 1325 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 2: But if you're insecure about it, it's like it's like 1326 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,759 Speaker 2: you can't change your height, and you know that your height. 1327 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 2: Your height does not make it that like it is 1328 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 2: impossible to ever find love. But even if you do 1329 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,839 Speaker 2: view your height as a handicap, it's like being insecure 1330 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 2: about it only makes it like three hundred times worse. 1331 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,719 Speaker 2: So I'm with you on that. MICHAELA, your husband sounds cool. 1332 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 2: You sound cool. This is a good gak male. Thank 1333 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 2: you for sending this, and folks, I think that's it 1334 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 2: for me. I'm Lyle, I'm a Gecko. Oh my Alaska 1335 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 2: show is uh is out. I have a ticket link 1336 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,959 Speaker 2: available to my show in Alaska. If you live in Anchorage, Alaska, 1337 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,560 Speaker 2: I am coming to your town to do Gecko therapy 1338 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 2: and stand up comedy storytelling on October ninth and tenth. 1339 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 2: You can go to therapy geckotour dot com to get tickets. 1340 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,960 Speaker 2: And if you live in any of these cities such 1341 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 2: as Appleton, Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin, Detroit, Bloomington, Chicago, Atlanta, Nashville, DC, Philly, 1342 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:40,879 Speaker 2: New York City, Boston, Toronto, Lansing, Grand Rapids, Montreal, Houston, Vegas, 1343 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:46,400 Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, Denver, Phoenix, Austin, or New Orleans, you 1344 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 2: can also get tickets to my show at therapy geckotour 1345 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 2: dot com. I'm putting together my special. I'm excited. About it. Uh, 1346 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,679 Speaker 2: it'll be good, I think, I hope. I'm just gonna 1347 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 2: film some shit, do some shiit, say some stuff and 1348 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 2: it'll be fun. It'll be good anyway. I'm a gecko. 1349 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,639 Speaker 2: My name is Lyle. Peace, be with you all, see 1350 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 2: you guys around the universe. Thank you. Goes on the 1351 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 2: line taking your phone calls every night. Deacon goes to 1352 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 2: his hide. You're just teaching you a loud in them 1353 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 2: of your life. Money's not really an expert.