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Speaker 1: we always do. Let's get to the show, Ralph. This

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Speaker 1: Love of Possibles. They asked us about de Eric King,

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about this route? I don't know

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still processing this. Where are you at

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Speaker 1: if you guys decide to leave, if we decide to leave,

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Speaker 1: half deficit to win sixty seven sixty three. How do

430
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: you feel, oh any added to Russian touchdowns, he threw

431
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: four fifty seven yards Russian. He had an amazing day.

432
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: So do you feel comfortable with Anthony Gordon getting packed

433
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: twelve player offensive Player of the Week, I mean Dorian

434
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson instead of Anthony Gordon. Yeah, I'm okay with

435
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: the coach of the Year rules, right, Instead of the

436
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: best and biggest numbers, you go with most improved UM

437
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: and they won the game. I think that it would

438
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: have almost been I mean, there are people out there

439
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: who feel like this, It would almost would have been

440
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: more patronizing and insulting on the heels of that loss,

441
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: be told that, like, hey, and you were the best

442
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: player this week, and so I don't know, I almost

443
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: think it's better for Washington State that he that he

444
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: wasn't He also has the most opportunity we win it

445
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 1: four or five more times this year. So I mean,

446
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: if it happened to somebody who has just like had

447
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: a one off UM as a as a quarterback and

448
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: and they were never gonna do it again. But there's

449
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance that after watching you know, just

450
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: after watching Utah's DBS against USC, like, it's very possible

451
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon does this a couple more times. UM. The

452
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: Office of Lineman of the Week was Pine Sewel, left

453
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: tackle from Oregon in fifty six snaps. He didn't allow

454
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: a pressure, a hit, or a hurry on Justin Herbert

455
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: for the third consecutive game. He's only a sophomore and

456
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: he's even yet to be called for a penalty. And

457
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: he's and he had five knock bounds against Stanford of

458
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: guys just leveling him. And I mean, if you have

459
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: not seen a a if you don't pay attention to the

460
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: the officive line play, pay attention to the left tackle

461
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: for Oregon, he's a oh and he's got a brother

462
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: who's a top fifteen recruit too. It is it is

463
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: everything incredible for that kid to to to watch that

464
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: kid play. But on defense, it's not just wait, wait, wait,

465
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: hold on, not just incredible to watch that kid play.

466
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: It's incredible that he came from where he came from

467
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: and was this ready. St George Utah is like a

468
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: handful of people. He played against dudes who were hundred

469
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: and eighty pound defensive linemen, would like be the biggest

470
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: guy he ever went against. And he picked those guys

471
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: up and throw him ten fifteen yards down the field.

472
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: But stuff like that doesn't always prepare you for the

473
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: next level. And he came in and dominated right away

474
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: anyway like that, that's wild to me. I also watched

475
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: I watched the guy that he replaced, right, I watched

476
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: Tyroll cross Be. In high school, he played against some

477
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 1: of Las Vegas's best. We definitely I felt like that

478
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: was always going to prepare him to go to the

479
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: next level and and and get it done. When he

480
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: was at Oregon Piney Sewell was playing against like kids

481
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: who would be fifth string at a mid size high

482
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: school in that way, like that's and and I So

483
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: that was always my big worry with him is that

484
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: anybody who saw him was like, Oh, he's gonna crush

485
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: it at the next level. And I'd always like jump

486
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: in and be like if he develops and gets used

487
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: to the speed, and I know, I'm man, I was wrong.

488
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: None of that. He's just that good, doesn't matter. Was

489
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: a top ten pick next year and not in the

490
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: draft and draft when he's eligible, he he's he's a

491
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 1: top ten pick. It's I'm I'm picturing him at Arizona

492
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Cardinal Red right now. Um, well, if you're at Arizona

493
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: Van now, I would hope you wouldn't be picking in

494
00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: the top ten in two years. But on defense, even

495
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: Weaver was the defensive player of the week for what

496
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: this is the second time he's been defensive player of

497
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: the week. Um. He had eighteen tackles against Washington, came

498
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: back this week, said it another personal record twenty two

499
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: tackles in their win over Old Miss, and he made

500
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: the final tackle of the of the game on that

501
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: quarter on that attempted quarterback sneak. This dude is really good.

502
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean I thought he was fat because he looks

503
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: weird in his uniform, but but turn turns out he's not.

504
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: This kid can run. He looks like he looks like Mr. Incredible,

505
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: But this kid can play. I like it. I mean

506
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: I like him better than ben Berg, ben Burg Curvin

507
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: who was at Washington last year, who let the who

508
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: was one of the top tacklers in the league. Yeah

509
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: he Evan Evan Weaver. Room ends me of a JUCO

510
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: linebacker who who broke out his senior year at Arizona

511
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: State back in two thousand five. His name was Dale Robinson.

512
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: He kind of came out of nowhere. Um, I think

513
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: he I want to say he went to Juco in

514
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: Kansas or something like that too much his junior year

515
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: and then his senior year, he had a hundred and

516
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: fifteen tackles, fifteen for a loss and four sacks, three

517
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: four smumbles. Like it was crazy. He was in on

518
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: every single play, every single one of them. And then

519
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, he went onto the NFL, didn't really do

520
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: anything there, but it was just like I knew Evan

521
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Weaver was a tackling machine going into this year, but

522
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, like this guy was going to

523
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: be freed up to get in on absolutely everything. And

524
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: what he's been a week to week is pretty wild.

525
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Now we'll we'll have to see, especially Friday night. We'll

526
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: see if he's a playmaker and a difference maker in that,

527
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: like he can do more than just be the guy

528
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: who gets all the stops and doesn't really miss any tackles.

529
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: I'd like to see him take that next step um

530
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: into taking games over much in the way that Man

531
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: Tao used to do at Notre Dame. Right he his

532
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: his senior year, he went beyond just that guy who

533
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: is in on every plate, having like seven interceptions. You know,

534
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: he's just always around the ball. I think that we

535
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: could be talking about, you know, potential national honors, especially

536
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: if cal keeps it rolling and keeps getting wins, and

537
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm for sure this kid to stay healthy.

538
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him to keep having success. I just

539
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: want to see. I want to see now that the

540
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: lights are shining on him, now that more people know

541
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: his name, and now that he's out there with like

542
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: fun quotes and stuff like that, I just want to

543
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: see him shine because that'd be great for cow football.

544
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: It really would, oh for sure. And the defensive lineman

545
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: was Gus kombe Lander from Oregon Special Teams. Dimitric felt

546
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: In from u c l A. I'm surprised he get.

547
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they had to give this kid an award

548
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: for something. He had a hundred yard kick off against

549
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: Washington State, ninety four yard catch. I mean, he was

550
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible, two hundred sixty three all purpose yards. He

551
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: was fantastic. And then the freshman was Kyle Phillips from

552
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: u c l A. He with seven thirty one in

553
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: the fourth. He returned to punt sixty nine yards for

554
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: a touchdown to gave U c l A the lead.

555
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: But I want to give you an interesting note, Ralph,

556
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: that's six pack twelve quarterbacks through for more than three

557
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: hundred yards last week, and ten Pack twelve teams combined

558
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: to pass for three thousand, three hundred and seventy nine yards,

559
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: which is the equivalent of one point nine Thank you

560
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: to Anthony Gordon for doing about a third of that.

561
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate his service. Yep. Um, So now we

562
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: can get into the games. Really, there are five Pack

563
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: twelve teams in the top twenty five for the fifth

564
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: straight week, and it's the first time that the Pack

565
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: twelve has had five or more teams in the a

566
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: P Top five for five straight weeks since the first

567
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: six weeks of the season. Season was like the year

568
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: the Arizona State got picked in the National Championship right

569
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: by Herb Street and then everything fell apart. Yeah, yeah,

570
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: the Oregon ended up going to the National Championship. Um.

571
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: So I want to go onto the games. I think

572
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: it's interesting this week, Ralph, that all the away teams

573
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: could win this week, like the home teams could go over,

574
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: even though I'm not gonna pick them to go over.

575
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: But we'll start with the Friday night game. Another Friday

576
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: night game. This time you got a top fifteen team

577
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: in cal who is number two and should be number

578
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: two in everybody's power ranking in the back twelve against

579
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Arizona State, Cal is favored by five and a half.

580
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's favored by five points. Who you got

581
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: in this game, Ralph. I've been going back and forth

582
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: on this. UM, I think that I think that I'm

583
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm leaning Cal and I think I always was. I

584
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: don't Arizona State on the road in California. It has

585
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: been an issue since the beginning of time. They've had

586
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: some success at u c l A recently, but who hasn't, Um,

587
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: I think it's true. It's true that home field advantage

588
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: is non existent. Listen, you're gonna quit ragging on U

589
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: c l A. They are one and oh in the

590
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: back twelve and still have the inside attractive winning the

591
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: backside track on like winning every game on the road

592
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: which I might go to. I might go to their

593
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: their road game this weekend and not winning any games

594
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: at home. I could I could see that happening as well. Um,

595
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: But so I'm leaning toward Cal. I'm I'm also I

596
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: mean I might I might pull a George Rice stir

597
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: and right before the game flip my flip my commitment

598
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: on this. I'm still I'm still kind of looking at things.

599
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Everything regresses to the mean. Chase Garber's

600
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: will not do what he did against All Miss against

601
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: Arizona State. Period. There's it's not even it's not even

602
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: up for debate doing something one out of fifteen games,

603
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: with like seven of your fifteen games you threw for

604
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: under a hundred yards. He's not. He's not going to

605
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: go for three seventy something back to back weeks. This

606
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen. Um. He could do some serious

607
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: damage with his legs this week though, because as we

608
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: saw Stephen Montez move around a lot in the pocket

609
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: against a s U, especially on on third down. Um,

610
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: I could see him creating some opportunities for himself there.

611
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: But he's gonna have a rough week throwing the ball.

612
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I guarantee that. Um what that's a Ralph Amazon guarantee. Well, Ralph,

613
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: sometimes the light comes on for guys. Yeah, Chase Garber

614
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: said a career high with touchdown passes in yards three

615
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: three fifty seven and four touchdowns is previous high was

616
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: two thirty eight versus U C. Davis this year. So

617
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: I guess that's what he's getting better. And and I

618
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: would be proud of him for throwing against Arizona State.

619
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: I really would. Um, I don't think it's a yeah,

620
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: absolutely what again Again, I'm going with his history on

621
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: this and Arizona se State's defense, especially especially the defensive

622
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: backfield is a problem. They're not and and they're coming

623
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: off a week where they got did you see the

624
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Colorado game last we get a pass rush, then you

625
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: can get torched. That's what happened with Old Miss. They're

626
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: not They're not. They're not Ralph. You are, Ralph. You

627
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: are completely over valuing this Arizona State defense, completely overvaluing them.

628
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea why you are so high on

629
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: this Arizona State defense. I'm not high on them. It's

630
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: a law of that. I'm just I'm just trying to

631
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: use a lot of Chase Garver's had fourteen games where

632
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: he barely looked like a passer and one where he

633
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: looked good. All Miss fans will tell you, if you

634
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: want to get healthy, come play against them. Arizona State

635
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: had three weeks where the defense played lights out, and

636
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: the results they played it, Ralph. They played against. Two

637
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: of those games where against Sacramento State, who they struggled

638
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: against on offense and against Kent State, and then they

639
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: played against Michigan State, who can't score points on a

640
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: regular I will remind you that you picked the Michigan

641
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: State because you said that they're scoring this year was

642
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: vastly improved. And if you look at the results last

643
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: week and I and you look at the results last week,

644
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: they're back to scoring points. They're back to scoring points.

645
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: It's just the it's the law that Arizona States defense

646
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: had a bad game and it all came down to

647
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: one thing. They were not pressuring Stephen Montez. They're not

648
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: going to make that mistake agast Chase Garver's when it

649
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: was obvious that Old Miss was doing stuff like dropping

650
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: eight into coverage and time was on Chase garvere side

651
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: and that's one of the main reasons why he had

652
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: such a good week. So also, it's a Herm Edwards

653
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: coach team. Do you not think that this game is

654
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: going to be close? The only Arizona States never only

655
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: played in one game that wasn't close in his entire time,

656
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: it would be here. Is very confusing to me if

657
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State picked now to get blown out by a

658
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: team that has only done good things on offense at

659
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: how is one hundred percent winning this football game? They

660
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: are going to crush Arizona State, and and when I

661
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: say crushed, I mean crushed by Cow standards, that means

662
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: like a ten point victory, like seven to ten points,

663
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: except except for Arizona is gonna probably score a late

664
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: touchdown or something to make it a little bit closer,

665
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: because the truth is Cow's defense is suffocating. They have

666
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: they have destroyed quarterback futures. They destroyed Jacob Eason, they

667
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: destroyed uh, They've they've destroyed UH, Matt Carroll, the kid

668
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: at Old Miss. They they destroyed quarterbacks. They destroyed Jake Browning,

669
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: they destroyed kJ Costello, they destroyed quarterbacks. And Jane Daniels

670
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: as a true freshman who we both believe is gonna

671
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: be a really good quarterback. And then the fact that

672
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: Arizona State has trouble protecting him. Arizona State couldn't run

673
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: the football against Sacramento State, they didn't throw the ball

674
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: well against Sacramento State, didn't throw the ball well against

675
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: Michigan State, couldn't protect Jade Daniels there, What do you

676
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: think is gonna happen? When they face Cow, Cow gets pressure,

677
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: their deep, their secondary is super good. Jaden Daniels might

678
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: throw three interceptions this this game. There is no way,

679
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: no how, no chance Arizona State wins this game against

680
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: against Cal. It's not happening. They might as well be

681
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: playing freaking Alabama this week. It's not. I see now

682
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: you convinced me. Now I'm picking Arizona State because he can't.

683
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't go with the no way, nohow.

684
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: You can't jump on board with that. And to say

685
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: that Jaden Daniel, who's thrown a d S passes this

686
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: year with one interception that the game, to say that

687
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw three picks, it's not. It's not gonna happen.

688
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: Her Her Edwards wouldn't quote Takashi six nine, wouldn't even

689
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: let him get the chance like Arizona State under her

690
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: d words, and it's it drives me nuts as someone

691
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: who just wants games to be aesthetically pleasing sometimes is

692
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: going to welcome this being a couple of pigs rolling

693
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: around in the mud. Because the uglier that Cal wants

694
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: to make it. The better position in Arizona State is

695
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: in to do some nonsense in the fourth quarter and

696
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: come out with a victory. That's his mindset. They don't

697
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: care about stats, they don't care about looking good, they

698
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: don't care about any of that. Neither does Cal. But

699
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: to say that all of a sudden, because Cal scored

700
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: twenty eight points in one game, that they're gonna come

701
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: out and be offensive juggernauts. I don't think they're gonna

702
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: be offensive juggen defense. I just think that Cow's defense

703
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: is going to put their offense continuously in good positions

704
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: to score. They're gonna be in charge of the of

705
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: the field position battle, and as long as Chase Garbers

706
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: is not bad Chase Garbers and throws interceptions, they will

707
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: be fine. We're we are. We're looking at a team

708
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: right where in total defense, Cow is only giving up

709
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: three d Well, they're giving up three six yards a game,

710
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: which is upp a tick from last year. But the

711
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: different it is is that this year they've been ahead

712
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: in so many games that teams have just had to

713
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: just throw the ball, thortball, throught the ball, and they

714
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: have a bunch of turnovers. They are like their defense

715
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: pass efficiency is number two in the would agree, only

716
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: only behind Oregon in Arizona States defensive passive UH efficiency

717
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: is number seven because they just got worked by Stephen Montez.

718
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: But you you look at, you look at just like

719
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: the pro FO football focused stuff, Kobe Williams, who is

720
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: considered to be like the least talented at the starting corners.

721
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: Kobe Williams is like rated six in the entire country

722
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: in in in passing defense, in quarterback rating, and going

723
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: at him, he's allowed like five catches in nineteen targets

724
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: for a total of sixty yards. And this is this

725
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: is their most like least dependable guys. They haven't played anybody,

726
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: They have not played anybody except Michigan State and and

727
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: well and then and then they just lost to color Colorado.

728
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: So maybe they weren't throwing at him, but they were

729
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: throwing at somebody else. Stephen Um Stephen Montes is not

730
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's not Jacob Easton, He's not uh Herbert.

731
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: He's a good quarterback who is who could turn out

732
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: to be a pro. I will give him that because

733
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: he has matured and gotten better every single season and

734
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: he flies under the radar. But at the end of

735
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: the day, you have to look at the defenses and

736
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: what they do um. Cal is second in the conference

737
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: an opponent third down conversions, Arizona State is seventh. You

738
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: look at the amount of sacks. Cal is averaging three

739
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: sacks a game, Arizona State's averaging one. They're not gonna

740
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: be able to get pressure on him, while Cal is

741
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get pressure and Cow is the

742
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: number one team in the fact well with sex against

743
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: and yet they only have one game where they come. No. No,

744
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they are the worst team in the in

745
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: in the Sagas. I rent the stat wrong. I was

746
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: gonna say Chase Carver's I think it's out there getting

747
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: themselves sacked a little bit. Here here correct, here's the

748
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: thing I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna

749
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: be an ugly game. And since you're giving them no chance,

750
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: you've pushed me to the Arizona State side. I will

751
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: say that I that Cal should win. There's absolutely no

752
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: way they win by ten or anything like that. But

753
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: they I mean they should. They should win this game.

754
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: They won't be able to run or throw, yes, Christopher

755
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: Christopher Brown Jr. Or Or dancing. One of them is

756
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: going for over a hundred yards. First of all, absolutely not.

757
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. And and Kioka Crawford or Jordan

758
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: dunk Inn for Cow, their their receivers. One of them

759
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: is going to have a hundred yard day too. I'm

760
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: telling you, bro, this is this. You are overvaluing the

761
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: Arizona State defense. I don't see it. And you know,

762
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: and and after the way I kicked your ass last

763
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: week and picks there, you know you should. You should

764
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: just roll with me, off. I know, I get where

765
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: you're coming from. And I think that Cal should absolutely

766
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: be the favorite, and I think the lines appropriate in

767
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: this game. But you're too sure, man, You're too sure.

768
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: We were sure about Washington State last week. It's the

769
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: it's the certainty that's scaring me off and your reasoning.

770
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean again, one good game does not a working offense.

771
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: I didn't even applaud I didn't even say anything about

772
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: Cow's offense being fantastic. It was this the Cow's hundred

773
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: yard rusher and a hundred yard receiver and saying that

774
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: Chase Garber's is going to at least have his second

775
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: most efficient passing game of his career. What do you

776
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: think all those things add up to that that means

777
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: that Arizona State's defense is not as good as you

778
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: think it is. That's what That's what that means. Um

779
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: onto the next game? Do USC? Because Ralph, you have

780
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: an affinity for the Arizona schools. I get it. I

781
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: get it. I get that that that that this is

782
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: your core demo, and I will I will say you,

783
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: I will say that I picked them to go and

784
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: combine ten and four team this year, so I'm not

785
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: too fond of them. Yeah, yeah, I guess. Um. Next

786
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: game we got up Saturday twelve thirty was USC travels

787
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: up to Seattle. Washington is a ten point favorite games

788
00:45:51,600 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: on Fox. Who you got, Ralph, I'm leaning Washington. Um.

789
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that Washington is a team that can

790
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: really fall for the whole, you know, chuck the ball

791
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: up in the air and let guys come down with it. Um.

792
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: I think that they have ways to to combat that

793
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: and to make sure that their cornerbacks aren't always isolated

794
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: or out on an island. And if you take that away,

795
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: USC hasn't really shown that they can run the ball

796
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: and the way that Washington was able to move the

797
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: ball with Seawan McGrew at running back of all people, Um,

798
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: I think Washington rolling right now, I don't. I don't

799
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: like this to be a blowout. I don't think that

800
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: that's really what Pack twelve schools are going to be

801
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: out doing to each other this year. Um, But I

802
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: do think that it's gonna be a come down week

803
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: for USC. I I still like USC to be on

804
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: track to hit eight and four overall. Um, I would

805
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: not like to see them lose this game and then

806
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, get worked by Notre Dame. And so my

807
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: my hope is that it's at least competitive, just so

808
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: that we're not talking about a winning team that controls

809
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: its destiny and the PAC twelfth South being about to

810
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: fire its coach. I'm about sick of that conversation. I

811
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: feel like it's never gonna end. Um. But I don't

812
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: see any reason why Washington loses this game. What can

813
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 1: USC do to Washington besides just get the ball out

814
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: downfield quickly? That worked against Utah, I don't but Utah

815
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't think could match that offensively. I don't think

816
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: that they could hang. Um. I just I don't. I

817
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: don't see one thing that USC does better than Washington.

818
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't see it because the receivers can't get themselves

819
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: the ball, So I gotta go with Ralph. I am

820
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: honestly I'm a little bit torn about this game because

821
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: but actually, first first thing I'll say is, first thing

822
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: is I'm picking US. I'm sorry Washington to win this game.

823
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: Picking Washington to win this game, I don't see this

824
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: as an opportunity for for USC to win, even though

825
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: that they are technically well. Actually these teams are pretty

826
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: on part talent wise. But here is the problem. USC

827
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: can't run the ball. They're leading rusher right now is Malapai.

828
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: He's got three eleven yards. I'm not sure if they've

829
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 1: had a hundred yard rusher this entire season. US. He's

830
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: having trouble running the football. That means that you have

831
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: to pass the football. And Washington, their past defense is good.

832
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: Their number three in the conference in total defense, only

833
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: allowing three hundred and thirty two yards a game. And

834
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: I think you hit the nail on the head with

835
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: just chuck it up to Pittman, Vaughans or st. Brown

836
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: is not gonna work against Washington. You are going to

837
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: have to spread the ball around. Um uh, They're gonna

838
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: have to be able to run the football and their

839
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, either Slovis or Fink. Who I would go

840
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: with Slobs because it looked like Fink was doing a

841
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: little more just chunking the ball up, and Slops was

842
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: able to dissect the defense and that a bit more.

843
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: If he's if he's healthy and back, that's who I

844
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: would go with. I would go with Slovis. But I'm

845
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: looking at it and I'm saying, I don't know, Buddy,

846
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how

847
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: USC comes up with a running game when they haven't

848
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: been able to run it. And Jacob Eason has been

849
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: increasingly effective, increasingly effective each game against b y U.

850
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: I think he had his most efficient game of the season,

851
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: especially considering it was against a good team. Two ninety yards,

852
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and one inner s. And USC's back in

853
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: their secondary is not that good at covering people. They're

854
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: not I mean a lot. Elijah Griffin is young. They

855
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: got um that kid, Taylor Stewart or Chris Steele. Chris

856
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Steel looks like a little kid in his uniform. He

857
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: may turn out to be a good player, but his

858
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: uniform looks baggy, it looks too big. It's got little

859
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: like it's not tailored on the side. It doesn't he

860
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: doesn't look the part right now, let alone play in

861
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: the part. And their best defender is their strong safety

862
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: ha Funga, and he's an excellent tackler, he's just not

863
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: the best in coverage at this point as a sophomore.

864
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: This is a game that looks unwinnable for USC. But

865
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: at the same time, this could be one of those

866
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: Washington State see that now you're coming around of myself,

867
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't see in the escape here for for USC.

868
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: I'm looking around every corner of the room. I don't

869
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: see a way out. But this Washington State U c

870
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: l A game has me so shook that it's just like, yeah,

871
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: why not, why not just pick USC in this game?

872
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, I'm not. I'm not going to

873
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: UM because I just again it's at every single position.

874
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: I just don't see a way UM for this to

875
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: be for for this to go USC's way. But I

876
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: I think it would be crazy to say that Washington

877
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: is going to come out and do what they did

878
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: to b y U. And I know that that they

879
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: have them as a common opponent. I know that b

880
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: YU beat USC. UM and but at the same time,

881
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: I think that you know, these these intraconference games work

882
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: a little bit differently than playing anybody from the outside. Well, Ralph,

883
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to pish you off right right now.

884
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: So is is this game the beginning of Clay Hilton

885
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: the end of Clay Hilton? No, if they if if

886
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: they lose this game and then they lose against Notre

887
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: Dame next week, is at the beginning of Dame. Not necessarily,

888
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: because I mean, first of all, I thought that this

889
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: would be their first loss, so I thought that they'd

890
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: be going in four. No, they take this loss and

891
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: go to four and one. I think they'll be eight

892
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: and four on the season. I think that they'll win

893
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve South. Okay, So I think that if

894
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: they win the Pack twelve South, and it all really

895
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: depends on what they do in the championship game, um

896
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: that that that will ultimately determine whether or not he's

897
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: got any juice, And it's also going to depend on

898
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: who they hire. But I also get this really weird

899
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: feeling that anybody who plays against USC is auditioning. So like,

900
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: I will you know, if Washington goes out and beat

901
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: USC by thirty. You know how many USC fans are

902
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna be like, we want Peterson. They're like, it doesn't

903
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: matter what team they play, they want anybody right now. Yes,

904
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: And so that's just kind of where I'm at is

905
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: is it feels like no matter who they go up against,

906
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: like that coach is not only like auditioning to continue

907
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: to keep their job, but also maybe for future consideration

908
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: as the head coach of the USC trojans um. This

909
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: has to end at some point. It feels so inevitable.

910
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody and probably because I'm not an

911
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: SEC fan and I don't root for Auburn, but I've

912
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: never seen anybody on a permanent hot seat in this way,

913
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: just doing just enough to keep their toes out of

914
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: the boiling water. Oh that was That was Kevin Sumlin

915
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: at Texas A and M and gust miles On at

916
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Auburn currently. Yeah, but I always want gust miles On.

917
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: I feel like does good things. I don't think Kevin

918
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: someone ever get anything besides have exciting offenses and finished

919
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: fourth in the SEC West. So I mean, I just

920
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. It's almost like just rip

921
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: the band aid off and get it done already. Even

922
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: if they do win the pactwels South. But I don't

923
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: think it's the beginning of the end. I think the

924
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: beginning of the end was him just taking the job

925
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: in the first place, you know, because it's always felt

926
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: like nothing has ever sort of been good enough. And

927
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: they're just objective metrics like recruiting that don't seem to

928
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: be going well for this team. Um But but I

929
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: don't know. If they perform well against Washington and find

930
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: a way to sneak one out against Notre Dame, who knows,

931
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: who knows how long he can delay the inevitable. I

932
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: am fascinated by it. This is a pick one game.

933
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: This is a pick one between this weekend next week.

934
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: If you're USC you get one of these two victories.

935
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: If they lose to Washington, they're gonna beat Notre Dame.

936
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: Because this is what Clay Hilton is. And I don't

937
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: want to and I don't want this this reference to

938
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: actually actually I'm I was going to use one reference,

939
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: but I didn't want it to sound negative because I

940
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: don't have anything against the guy. But but I'm going

941
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: to use he's a he's a white walker, he is a.

942
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: He's a walk king dead guy, like he is the

943
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: guy who won't die. Like you can try to shoot him,

944
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: you can try to hang him, you can try to

945
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: burn him. It's not gonna happen. He's gonna keep on coming.

946
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: And then that's how I know. If he beats Washington,

947
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: he probably will lose a Notre Dame. But if he

948
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: loses to Washington, he's going to go beat Notre Dame,

949
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: and then people are gonna be like, all right, well,

950
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: what the hell are we supposed to do? What Dell

951
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 1: is supposed to do now? Um? But moving on, dude,

952
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: the next game is an interesting game, four o'clock at

953
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: Salad Bowl Stadium. Stanford is favorite by four points at

954
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: Oregon State. I'm letting you know right now, Ralph, I

955
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: am picking Oregon State to get their second victory of

956
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: the season. Jonathan Smith is gonna he's already starting to

957
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: keep games a little bit closer then he did last year.

958
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm picking Oregon State to upset Stanford at home. On okay, okay, um,

959
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: I think that that's uh, it's fair to kind of

960
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: go where you see the momentum. Um. I personally think

961
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: that Stanford not only wins this game. They cover Cameron

962
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: Scarlett looks like the guy that you do not believe

963
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: he is, at least for one week. Um, and I

964
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Oregon State can't stop anybody. They absolutely cannot. The talent

965
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: disparity between the two teams is huge. The one or

966
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: two things that Oregon State does well defensively are going

967
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: to be completely neutralized by the way that Stanford runs

968
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: their offense. Um. If if Oregon State can get a

969
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: couple of quick scores, then this game is going to

970
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: get pretty dangerous pretty quick. Um. But I don't think

971
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: they're going to have the ball all that much to

972
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: be able to accomplish some of those things. And so, um,

973
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: I gotta go with that. That's my theme week is

974
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: that everything sort of aggressives to the mean. So I'm

975
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna go with with with Stanford and this one not

976
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: only to win, but to but to probably win by

977
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: more than people are expecting them to. Okay, here's here's

978
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: the problem, Ralph, is that Stanford is not what they

979
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: used to be. You have Oregon State, who is last

980
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve against the rush. Right, we we

981
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: know they can't stop the run. They can't stop the

982
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: run to save their life, they are, but their night.

983
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: They're only giving up thirty points a game. I mean,

984
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: even though that's a lot, Colorado, Arizona, and U c

985
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: l A are all giving up more. Oregon State is

986
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: the third best rushing defense offense in the Pack twelve Utah,

987
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Arizona, Utah, and then Oregon State two thirty

988
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: yards a game. But here is where the metric goes

989
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: that that lends it self to favoring Oregon State. Stanford

990
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: is last in the Pack twelve in yards per game

991
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: and it's not even close. They're only averaging three hundred

992
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: and twenty yards per game. Camera in Scarlett has not

993
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: gone for over a hundred yards. They only have five

994
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns this season Ralph five. Do you realize that they've

995
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: in four games Stanford scored five touchdowns? Do they equal

996
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: it on Saturday? No? No. And their past offense is

997
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: the worst in the country anatomy, the worst in the country,

998
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: the worst in the Pack twelve, the worst past defense

999
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: well offense in the Pack twelve, and Oregon State is

1000
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: not even last in total defense anymore. U c l A,

1001
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Arizona and Colorado are below them. So this is a

1002
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: team that is improving, getting better, and I'm telling you

1003
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: that they are here to shock the world. They are

1004
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: here to shock the world. Neither team is good in

1005
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: past efficiency at all. But I I like, but Stanford

1006
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: is so bad running the ball right now, They're so

1007
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: bad passing the ball that this is a game where

1008
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: playing in Research Stadium, that the momentum, all of this

1009
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: is going to favor Oregon State. And I got Oregon

1010
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: State winning this game. I can't believe at this point

1011
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: in time that Stanford is one in three and they're

1012
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: at a game at Oregon State and people are going

1013
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: to be picking Oregon State to win. This is mind blowing.

1014
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: And David Shaw, if he loses this game, it is

1015
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: going to be clear and evident because he's a smart guy.

1016
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: He's at Stanford, got smart people around him, that that

1017
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: something's broken. He's falling into the gym hardball. It's broken

1018
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: trap and it's got to get fixed. Yeah, I mean,

1019
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: you say that Stanford isn't Stanford, you know, but that

1020
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: it's it doesn't mean that they've fallen down to where

1021
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: Oregon State is. You know, Cuba Gooding Junior isn't Cuba

1022
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: Gooding Junior anymore. But he's still got a role as

1023
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: o J. He still gets work, and they're gonna they're

1024
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna go out and they're gonna take care of business

1025
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: against a far inferior team just when it comes to

1026
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: baseline talent and and let's be honest, coach, you think

1027
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: you really think David Shaw is not gonna take Oregon State? Seriously,

1028
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna happen. And so um, you know,

1029
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't feel like this game is even gonna be

1030
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: all that close. Maybe for a half, but it's still

1031
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: it's still Oregon State has nothing at this point, has

1032
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 1: nothing to do with even Stanford. It's still Oregon State.

1033
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: Who who is who has talent at receiver and has

1034
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: talent maybe just at receiver, running right, running back and receiver,

1035
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, jam Jefferson. That's where all of their firepower is.

1036
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: But can the coaches win the game against coaches who

1037
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: have been doing this far longer with better players. But

1038
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: probably Jonathan Smith needs to prove it to me. And

1039
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean I would love for him to do it

1040
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: because he he it feels like he's energized at that

1041
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: campus so much, and I would love for him to

1042
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: be there as long as possible. I love that story.

1043
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: It would be really really cool for Oregon State to

1044
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: get a win. I just don't I don't see it,

1045
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: even if they are able to do some damage offensively.

1046
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: You know what, David Sha David Shaw has fallen into

1047
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: the trap of I believe that I can play great

1048
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: defense and just run the football and win. That was

1049
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: That was two thousand and fifteen. Even Alabama had to

1050
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: switch it up. Alabama didn't even run the football as

1051
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: much as they used to. They passed the ball, open

1052
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: up the run. This is the way of the world,

1053
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: and Oregon State and David Shaw have not adapted to it.

1054
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: That's the problem, right. But this this is a team

1055
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: that lost to Hawaii and Oklahoma State, and all Oklahoma

1056
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: State did was run the ball, you know, and take

1057
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: lu tian Yeah but yeah. But the difference is is

1058
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: that when Oklahoma State runs the ball, they spread you out,

1059
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: and Oregon State doesn't have the same athletes, so so

1060
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: they spread you out and then run the football. Stanford

1061
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: wants to play in a phone booth, and Cameron Scarlett,

1062
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: unfortunately is not good enough to to to hit those

1063
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: home runs, to see all the holes, to make the

1064
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: to to do special things that special running backs do,

1065
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: like Bryce loved it. But do you need to be

1066
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: special against Oregon State? Do you even need to know?

1067
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: You don't need to be special, but you need to

1068
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: be better than you've been. And I'm telling you that

1069
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: Jamaar Jefferson he's gonna have a good day against Stanford.

1070
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: And Jake Luton is going to have one of those,

1071
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: uh Chase Garber's mystical days. I don't I don't know

1072
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be as efficient, like he's gonna throw

1073
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: for three fifty and four touchdowns, but he's going to

1074
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: have a much better day against his Stanford defense than

1075
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: you have seen him have. I got Oregon State winning

1076
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: this game, and and it's going to be a This

1077
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be a catastrophe for Stanford, a catastrophe, like

1078
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: one of those things where where where people say, all right,

1079
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: look look, I know that it was rough, but this

1080
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: is a new low. This is gonna be one of

1081
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: those days. Um. But to move on to the Washington

1082
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: State and Utah, does Washington State rebound and beat Utah

1083
01:03:52,440 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: in Utah after such an emotional uh catagory dropic? I mean,

1084
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: they got made fun of, they were means they cooped it.

1085
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: And now they're playing Utah who lost the USC, who

1086
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: got beat in the past game by USC, and now

1087
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: they're playing a pass happy Washington State in the air

1088
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: raid offense, Utah's favorite by five who you got, Well,

1089
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: we're probably not gonna see Zack Moss, right, so yep.

1090
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean I know that Utah has bullets in the

1091
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: chamber at the running back position there they just always

1092
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: sort of do. And the game is in Salt Lake.

1093
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: That matters to me. Um, and I think that I

1094
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: think that this Utah team is a little bit better

1095
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: equipped to handle the spread. When these two teams played

1096
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: last year, it was a pretty low scoring game. It

1097
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: was in Pullman and um and Washington State came out

1098
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: with the wind. I think that home field is really

1099
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: what matters most in this and I think that I

1100
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: think that Washington State. I think that they they broke

1101
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: down and showed some weaknesses. And you've been you've been

1102
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: on this train the entire time, right, Washington State is

1103
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: not as good as as their record, um and uh,

1104
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: And I always felt like you could maybe have said

1105
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: the same thing about Utah, UM. But the truth is,

1106
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: like Utah is still incredibly dangerous in Salt Lake. No

1107
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: matter what. It would not matter if Oregon was going there,

1108
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: It would not matter if Alabama was going there. Like,

1109
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: you really don't want to have to go and play

1110
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake and think that you're going to get

1111
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: away with doing everything that you usually are able to

1112
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: get away with. Um offensively, I think you. I think

1113
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: it's fair to say you can maybe flip the scores.

1114
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: I really hate that they're gonna be missing Zack Moss,

1115
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if as Utah um I

1116
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: Huntly might not be the quarterback for you, um, but

1117
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't turn the ball over a whole lot, and

1118
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: so you're not going to get extra opportunities. And all

1119
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: you have to do is be able to bend a

1120
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: little bit and not break against this Washington State team.

1121
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: And I know they want I know that they want

1122
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: to be able to spread things out and get things

1123
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: done that way. How much time are they going to

1124
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: be able to have to go downfield against this Utah

1125
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: defensive line though, they're gonna have to dink and dunk,

1126
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: which is exactly what Utah wants you to do. It

1127
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: wants your spread to just essentially have your passing game

1128
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: function as your running game. What they don't want is

1129
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: for you to be going over the top the whole time.

1130
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure we'll have time to do it.

1131
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: And so I'm going against um what I believe to

1132
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: be Utah's um, you know, weakness, which would be defensive

1133
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: speed um and and taking home field on on this one,

1134
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised Walkington State won this game.

1135
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to wash this game, but I don't

1136
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that Washington State has what it takes

1137
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: to go into Salt Lake and get a win this.

1138
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: This is a tough game for me because I'm looking

1139
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: at the stats, Washington State is averaging six hundred and

1140
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: five yards per game of total offense. Utah is only

1141
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: giving up two hundred seventy four yards. These stats are

1142
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: a little bit misleading because both of these teams neither

1143
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: one of them played good non conference competition. Ain't that

1144
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: we can't hit them by you too much? Oh well, sorry, sorry,

1145
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: sorry sorry, except for yeah, except for Utah who did

1146
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 1: play b y U. Aside from that, these numbers, these

1147
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: early season numbers are always a bit skewed for four

1148
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: teams but Washington State they're kind of they're about it.

1149
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: They're averaging five hundred yards of pass offense per game,

1150
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: while utass ask defense is only giving up two hundred

1151
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: and twenty two. So somebody's gotta lose. You know, obviously

1152
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: Utah is gonna give up more than two d twenty

1153
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: two yards, but it probably won't be close to that

1154
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: damn five hundred though, probably be close to about a

1155
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: three fifty day because like you said, their offense is

1156
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: going to their running game is gonna have to be

1157
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: serviced by their passing game. It's not a case where,

1158
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see them getting the doors blown

1159
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: off them. I think that Washington State does rebound. But

1160
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: I got I got, I got Utah in this game.

1161
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: I just think that they're gonna be able to slow

1162
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: Washington State down. I think Anthony Gordon is a good quarterback.

1163
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't think he's as good as Gardner Menshew. Sometimes

1164
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: he looks a bit confused, sometimes he looks um you know,

1165
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: he looked a little out of sorts at times against

1166
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: U c. L A goat a little rattled and Gardner

1167
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: Minshew never got rattled. So I think that that is

1168
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: going to either difference. I don't think that Washington State's

1169
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: quarterback play is as good as it was last last year,

1170
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 1: even though their wide receivers are our Canado's good BORGI

1171
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: is good out of the backfield, he's good running it,

1172
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: and he's good catching it. I just don't see an opportunity. Well, well,

1173
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: I shouldn't. I shouldn't shouldn't say I don't see a

1174
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: full opportunity. I just think that this is a case

1175
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: where where Washington State is is playing in a hostile

1176
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: environment and that they are going to, you know, just

1177
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: not have enough at the end of the day. I

1178
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: don't think that they're going to be able to stop

1179
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: Utah's offense as much because they're kind of plotters, you know,

1180
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: four yards to carry, four yards and carry. They're gonna

1181
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: eat up the clock and it's just not I think

1182
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: that this comes down to the whoever has the ball last,

1183
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: that their defense is gonna have to get a that right.

1184
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: And god, you know what, this pick just feels like garbage,

1185
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,919
Speaker 1: doesn't it? Like I'm I'm I want to be confident

1186
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: in it, but just looking looking at it, I mean,

1187
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: Washington State hasn't lost to Utah since two thousand and twelve.

1188
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Leach has just had Kyle Whittingham's number.

1189
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: A lot of these games have been super close. Two

1190
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: of them he managed to win in Salt Lake City. UM.

1191
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: And it's just it's not necessarily a style that that

1192
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: Utah matches up well with UM. But at the same time,

1193
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: the last time that they the last time that they

1194
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: went in and and really dismantled UM Washington State was

1195
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 1: back in two thousand twelve when star Low Tula was

1196
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: their guy, right, And I think they have UM. They

1197
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: have that talent on the defensive line this year, and

1198
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: they've got experience at offensive coordinator this year. UM. I'm

1199
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, it feels like a guess because I

1200
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: know that Washington State has had success and I know

1201
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: that Washington State hasn't shown that anybody can really slow

1202
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: them down yet. But I just I'm not feeling it

1203
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: for them. I'm I'm going with Utah and I'm sticking

1204
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: with it. Your argument there just changed my mind, Ralph.

1205
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: I just got so much confidence in your argument that

1206
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm going with Washington States. That's how much no you

1207
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: can you convinced me with the Mike Leakes record against

1208
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: Tyrone Whittingham. You convinced me there you gave him, you

1209
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: gave it. You call him Tyrone Winningham, So you're gonna

1210
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: say that you gave him the the O N twelve treatment. Yeah, right,

1211
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: exactly exactly the last game up that we got today

1212
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve South eventual PAC twelve South champions U

1213
01:11:53,880 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: c l A Bruins at the Arizona Wildcat Ams. So

1214
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: we got Khalil Tate, who's gonna run all over the field.

1215
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: He's going to he's gonna have a career day, probably

1216
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: against u c l As inferior defense. Khalil Tate has

1217
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: twenty one rushing yards, make him the first quarterback in

1218
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: program history to reach the two thousand mark yard mark.

1219
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: On the ground, he's thrown for five thousand yards. The

1220
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: only the first person to do this impact of history

1221
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 1: was Marcus Mariota. Tate has forty nine career TD passes,

1222
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of them rushing. He's gonna break a new

1223
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: Solomon's records. Like everything is set up for Arizona to

1224
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: score a billion points. But guess what Arizona's defense is.

1225
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: The is only rivaled in oh so are U c

1226
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: l AS bad defense is only rivaled by Arizona's bad defense.

1227
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: So guess what that means. Ralph u c l A

1228
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: whizes game a billion and one to a billion, a

1229
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: billion to one. So this over under is seventy two.

1230
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever been more confident in anything

1231
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: that that number is gonna get crushed? Oh? Dude, dude,

1232
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: that that number is getting They scored up some dred

1233
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: and thirty points against Washington Combined with Washington State, there's

1234
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 1: no chance that at seventy points hits. No Arizona. Arizona

1235
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: gave up forty some points to Northern Arizona. UM. They

1236
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: did play good defense against Texas Tech, but I think

1237
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: that this defense just sort of matches up well against

1238
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: an air raid. UM, I don't think that. I like

1239
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson's one good half of football against the

1240
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: Washington State team that really looked like they forgot how

1241
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: to play defense completely. I mean, I will never forget

1242
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 1: how poor the tackling was in the second half of

1243
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 1: that game by both teams. Yeah, oh god, it was

1244
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: just awful. It was It was like if you ever

1245
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: intentionally like and I'm gonna admit to doing something terrible

1246
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: right now. But if you've ever like been down in

1247
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: a game of Madden or n C Double A or

1248
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: something like that, and you switch to the other team

1249
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: and like let somebody throw a touchdown on you control

1250
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: the defensive back and just make sure that they run

1251
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: alongside the receiver instead of actually tackling them. Um. I mean,

1252
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: I've heard that that gets done anyway, But that's what

1253
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: that tackling look like to me. Um, this does not

1254
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: look like a winnable game for for U c l A.

1255
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: To me, I think that they could do some damage

1256
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: if they continue to sort of have that like we're

1257
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: free momentum. Um, if they don't play tight. If if

1258
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: if U c l A doesn't like look at that

1259
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: one and oh in the pact twelve and then all

1260
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, the butt holes pucker up

1261
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: a little bit and they feel like they have to

1262
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: go out there and execute on every play, then I

1263
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: think they're going to go right back down the toilet. What.

1264
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: But if they go out there and they just have

1265
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: fun and say like, hey, we might go one and eleven,

1266
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: like Ralph said, let's just go out there and and

1267
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: wing the ball around, then you have they could really

1268
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: be in some trouble. Um, I trust you have. This

1269
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: is gonna be weird to say, because I don't trust

1270
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: you with a defense at all, But I trust them

1271
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more then I trust U c l

1272
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: A in that at least you have like Colin Schooler

1273
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: and Tony Fields. Um U c l A hasn't stopped

1274
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: anybody yet. They didn't stop anybody against watching in state

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01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: actually actually hold on turnovers do equate two stops? Yes? Yes, Um.

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: Here is where you might feel good is that it's

1277
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: not like Khalil Tate's gonna go out there and be

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon right, He's not gonna throw. Ann may have

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01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: total nine total touchdowns, may maybe like three throwing and

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 1: six rushing. That's possible. I could even see it. I

1281
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: can even see a situation where Collilitate at the end

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01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: of the day comes out with not a bunch of

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01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 1: yards rushing and not a bunch of yards passing. Because

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01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: for the first time there ever Arizona realizes like, hey,

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: we got like three or four running backs that can play,

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: let's just give them the ball everything. Yeah, that's a problem.

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01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: That's that's that is a problem for me, um, because

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01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that will keep them in some

1289
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,839
Speaker 1: of these games when they're facing some more talented rosters

1290
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: than U c l A later on in the season.

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01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: But it's also the thing that could make sure that

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01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: they get a win. UM home fields kind of a weird.

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01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about going out to this game actually, just

1294
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: because I I would love to be at another game

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01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: where a hundred total points scored. UM. But I don't know,

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01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling this game for being one that collilitate,

1297
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: like statistically goes off. I think that the best thing

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01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: for University of Arizona to do would be to just

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: rotate in three different running backs, run them all over

1300
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: the field, counters, dives just all over the place, and

1301
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: then mix it up with a little bit of Khalil

1302
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: Tate trying to trying to, you know, make his way

1303
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: down the field here and there. Because these receivers still

1304
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: aren't very talented. They got a little bit of experience

1305
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: under their belt, but they're not very good and so UM,

1306
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't find U c l A dangerous in this game.

1307
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: I think that Arizona gets the win maybe ten points

1308
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. UM I'm looking at maybe like a fort

1309
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: thirty five Arizona. Oh God, no, no, Ralph, this is

1310
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: the case. You're right about the running because Arizona is

1311
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: by far the best rushing offense in the back twelve

1312
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: three seven yards a game versus U c l A,

1313
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 1: who's the worst in under a hundred yards of game rushing.

1314
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 1: So this you have two teams that are in totally

1315
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: opposite directions. If I think the fact that you admit

1316
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: it that Khalil Tate may not have a great statistical

1317
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: day against this defense, it's says that all that you

1318
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: really need to know about Khalil Tate because every other

1319
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: quarterback that they've played, every other quarterback that they've played,

1320
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: has had one of his best statistical days versus U

1321
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: c l A. And you're saying that your guy, Khalil

1322
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: Tate Amsden won't have a great statistical day. That that

1323
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: says all you need to say about this quarterback. That

1324
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: is all you need to say, because if he were

1325
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 1: at NFL type quarterback, he would be licking his chops saying,

1326
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you c l A, this is a stat

1327
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: padding game. Come on, Ralph, that like you yeah, And

1328
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, but I mean it's I think

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01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: it would just be irresponsible as a head coach to

1330
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: go out there and try to have like more than

1331
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: twenty passing attempts when you can just get a win

1332
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: under your belt by running the ball. And I'd say

1333
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: that about anybody if it had Washington State, had Washington

1334
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: State just given the ball to Max Borghi the entire

1335
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: second half of that game, that we would not even

1336
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: be having a cover station about whether you CELA could

1337
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: hang against Here is the truth, Ralph, Here's the truth

1338
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: that hate to be the bearer of bad news. Is

1339
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: that Dory and Thompson Robinson turned a corner. His he

1340
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: is his confidence was crazy in the second half. He's

1341
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna come out with that same confidence against Swiss Cheese.

1342
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: Defense of Arizona. Dimitric Felton is gonna have a good

1343
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: day receiving running the ball, so is Joshua Kelly Khalil

1344
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: Tate is gonna throw throw some balls up. He's gonna

1345
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: have a couple of turnovers. U ce l A Is

1346
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna have some turnovers. This is going to be another

1347
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: high scoring, ugly game. And because u c l A

1348
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,919
Speaker 1: has average giving up thirty nine points a game, Arizona

1349
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: is given up thirty three points a game. And when

1350
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: you combine that, when people just slinging the ball, running

1351
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 1: all over the place and bad tackling that you got

1352
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: a hundred points happening. This is gonna be a big

1353
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: twelve game. This is gonna be a couple of This

1354
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be Cliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech versus UM versus

1355
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: West Virginia. You know what I mean with with Yeah,

1356
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: there's no way that this game hits the the under

1357
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: and U. C. L a Starts out to Pack twelve

1358
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: two and oh, I got him. You Arizona's favorite by

1359
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: seven and a half. I like this game round. I

1360
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: like this game. I cannot wait to watch this game.

1361
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: It's another Pack twelve after dark game. You see how

1362
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 1: like gets back to back pack twelve after dark games.

1363
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: They shocked the world twice in a row. I'm letting

1364
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I've been gasolit all morning.

1365
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna walk away from this podcast, like wait.

1366
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson and Chase Darvers are the two best

1367
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and back twelve because they collectively played two good games. Ever,

1368
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't know um, and I'm not eighting on Khalil tape.

1369
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: I just think that why even throw if you don't

1370
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: have to, Why do it? Just try to get a

1371
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 1: win because it's gonna be a rough season for I

1372
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: think both of these teams moving forward, and at least

1373
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: somebody gets to come out of today with a win.

1374
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: Just do what it takes to win. Did you want

1375
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: to send him out there to throw for five touchdowns

1376
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: and two interceptions? He could do? So, are are you

1377
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: going to apologize to me and U C l A

1378
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: who you said I was going one in eleven after

1379
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: they win the game on Saturday? Oh my goodness, Yeah,

1380
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: of course I would have to apologize. I said a

1381
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: team would go one in eleven, said so many. Well,

1382
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: you gotta admit that the lake in the third quarter

1383
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: of last week's game, you had to be thinking. Man,

1384
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, they got them right

1385
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: where they want him? Oh, down thirty two points with

1386
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: six minutes left in the third. That's exactly what you

1387
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: want to It's like read but a get him right

1388
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: where you want? Okay? All right, Well, I mean I'm

1389
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm done talking for this podcast, but

1390
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: I will say I will say that I'm still pretty

1391
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: confident in one and eleven. But of course, of course

1392
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 1: I have to apologize. I mean you, you cannot be

1393
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: more distanced. It would be I feel like O and

1394
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 1: twelve would be less of of an insult. I'm saying like,

1395
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna get your one win somewhere, but the

1396
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: rest of them are done. I would agree with you there.

1397
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: You guys think you guys for listening to the Pack

1398
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: twelve Apostles. I'm George Rice to Ralph Amerson, you guys,

1399
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,200
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1400
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,800
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1401
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,160
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