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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morningy buddy.

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Speaker 2: get to today, but I hope everybody's having a great

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Speaker 2: week and the whole thing. It's August and we had

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Speaker 2: a game, and it's always about football, FITZI, how about it.

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Speaker 4: I am we have I'm disappointed in you, brother, I like,

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Speaker 4: I really thought that I was gonna get full like

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Speaker 4: American Dad intro. I thought maybe that you were gonna

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Speaker 4: come in with a song. I didn't know, maybe some

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Speaker 4: tap dancing, definitely some screaming. I'm telling you. The minute

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame game kicked off, the first thing

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Speaker 4: I thought, is man Cousin's so happy right now.

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Speaker 3: I was sitting here.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting there just happy.

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Speaker 2: Happy, exactly where I was the other night on Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: I was ear to ear.

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Speaker 3: It was funny.

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Speaker 2: I was telling yesterday during my show, my local show,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about watching the game, and they're going, what

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Speaker 2: do you mean?

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Speaker 3: You actually said? What do I mean?

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Speaker 2: I said, I had buck, I had ap been, I

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Speaker 2: had can't Ohio, I had I had real football. And

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, man, it was even crisp, like the first

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Speaker 2: half was you know, for the first game, it was

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Speaker 2: actually good football.

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Speaker 5: Man, it was.

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Speaker 3: It felt so good, and they're going, what the hell's

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Speaker 3: wrong with you? Hey? Right away?

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody's got a mock because it's the preseason,

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Speaker 2: oh preseasonable.

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Speaker 3: It was back and it was great.

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Speaker 2: It was great, just a great telecast talking about the

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Speaker 2: whole fame. You know, we got to see Devin Hester,

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Speaker 2: you got to see Julius Pepper's, you got the new kickoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I thought it was I

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Speaker 2: thought it was it was a blessed I was. I

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Speaker 2: was upset that these storms came and the game got canceled.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, abruptly.

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Speaker 4: Anybody that tells you preseason football stakes has either been

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Speaker 4: in this business too long or has been jaded by

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Speaker 4: this business, Like like the commentary that happens on it,

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Speaker 4: because let's be honest, like, so here I am, I'm

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Speaker 4: paying a little picture for you, my friend. Thursday night,

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Speaker 4: I was sat in a Collective Soul at Exfinity Amphitheater

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Speaker 4: and Hartford played a song. Yeah yeah, like it was

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Speaker 4: so I was at backstage and so it was Collective

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Speaker 4: Soul Edwin McCain and Hoody in the Blowfish right full

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Speaker 4: nineties to her. And when that game started, every single

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Speaker 4: dressing room in the back everybody was sitting there watching it.

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Speaker 4: And the funny thing is, as people were watching it,

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Speaker 4: I heard people say, oh, man, preseason football sucks, but

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Speaker 4: just have to remember when you when you get into

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Speaker 4: like the second half of a preseason game and somebody

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Speaker 4: inevitably is like, what degenerator is watching this? The very

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Speaker 4: people that have spent like you and I the last

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Speaker 4: several months screaming I just missed football? Like that's what?

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, we don't sit here as I sit

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Speaker 4: and I could see cycling happened live live, nobody's saying, well,

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Speaker 4: what degenerate is watching cycling? But that's the narrative we

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Speaker 4: put around preseason football. Preseason football is magical. It's time

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Speaker 4: of hope, it's time to like you can feel the

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Speaker 4: spirit means that we're almost through the hell known as

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Speaker 4: summer and we're almost to the heaven known as fall. Like,

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Speaker 4: it signifies so many good things. It's just magical, man Like,

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Speaker 4: it gives me all the feels. If I had hair

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, see, this is why I love you.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I have to say, you know, we

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Speaker 2: we have hit it off, you know, just like swim

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Speaker 2: fitsy man. And part of it is is that you

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Speaker 2: And that let soliloically was so perfect. You're so spot

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Speaker 2: on because it goes beyond let's be real, I've being

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Speaker 2: wasn't about the game itself obviously, Like I love watching

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Speaker 3: You get to just.

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Speaker 2: See it because you miss that piece of it. But

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Speaker 2: then it is the whole thing. Like you said, it

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Speaker 2: is about hope, it's about you know, Hey, what's my

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Speaker 3: Heading into camp?

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Speaker 2: And we're in camp, first preseason game for the other

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Speaker 2: teams coming in next week, and there's bucket Ak been

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Speaker 2: talking about the league, talking about the new kickoffs, and

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Speaker 2: it was back and that's where I go. I don't

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Speaker 2: understand people, because we all love it and it's better

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Speaker 2: than it's not having it at all. And what it

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Speaker 2: does it signifies the real thing is really close and

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Speaker 2: also not for nothing.

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Speaker 4: Look, maybe I'm being too deep, but there are very

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Speaker 4: few times in life that you can watch football without consequence.

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Speaker 4: So you can watch your favorite team, you can get

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Speaker 4: the rush of feeling your favorite team, but you also

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Speaker 4: know win or lose doesn't really matter, so you can

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Speaker 4: just sit back like I you know, football season. I

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Speaker 4: talk about how I love a beer game where you

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Speaker 4: because it's just, yes, you know your team's gonna win.

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Speaker 4: There is something about preseason where it's like, look, I'm

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Speaker 4: guess what if it goes terribly, the next day is

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Speaker 4: not going to be ruined for me. It's just I

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Speaker 4: And that's there is some magic to that, because once

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Speaker 4: you get into the regular season, all of it just

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Speaker 4: to all of us as fans, means so much that

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Speaker 4: becomes so difficult to just sit back and enjoy. I

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Speaker 4: do think that there's an innocence and enjoyment that comes

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hell yeah, because and it's also the beginning

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Speaker 2: of like you're watching without angst, as you said, and

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Speaker 2: you are. It's about hope, like you're just because you're

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Speaker 2: you're looking for backups, right, so you know it's not

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Speaker 2: even in years past you would look at starters. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: and then you're just looking for a play, a play here,

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Speaker 2: There's there's just a million things that way. I just

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Speaker 2: I love, uh what yah, I love I love your

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Speaker 2: description of it because it does it just provides you know,

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Speaker 2: look at it through the prism of hope.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's part of such a huge part of

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Speaker 4: what we all want to feel right now. It's like

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Speaker 4: this is this is like a first date and you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there are times that it goes really wrong, but it's

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Speaker 4: what you don't know if she like, you don't know

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Speaker 4: having a good time. You know, I think there is

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Speaker 4: same thing when we get into college football season and

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Speaker 4: it's you know, less than a month away at this point, right,

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Speaker 4: so when we when we all just start. And when

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Speaker 4: we're obsessing in week two about how are they already

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Speaker 4: giving us cupcake matchups? I just want us to remember

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Speaker 4: what we would have given in the middle of June

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Speaker 4: to watch McNee State take on Alabama.

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Speaker 6: It really matter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I love it.

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Speaker 4: You just gotta love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your spot on Figgie, Please tell me you had

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Speaker 2: to say reaction.

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Speaker 5: You know I didn't come on now.

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Speaker 3: Long enough. I knew.

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Speaker 2: I knew that I was hoping that you know, now

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Speaker 2: that you're a new father, that you had a new

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 5: Look, my perspective on preseason is. Look, I appreciate the

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Speaker 5: fact that football, that football is back to a certain degree,

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Speaker 5: but let's be real, a lot of these players names

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Speaker 5: see when the games actually matter. And look, I would

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Speaker 5: not begrudge any single soul or person that partakes in

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Speaker 5: because I certainly understand the fervor. We've talked about it

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Speaker 5: on this show at nausea in the last few months.

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Speaker 5: We talked about it when the playoffs started in January

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Speaker 5: and say that I didn't have it on. Honestly, more

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Speaker 5: So it was on. But I'll be lying to you

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Speaker 5: if I said I was sitting there on the couch

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Speaker 5: glued to every single solitary play for the entire broadcast,

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Speaker 5: that just wasn't the case, and rarely is the case

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Speaker 5: for the majority of these preseason games. Now for my team,

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Speaker 5: for my team, and Fitsy brought up you know, watching

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Speaker 5: the Raiders, I will because you're following your team closely,

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Speaker 5: you're following camp, You're following certain potential breakouts here and there.

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Speaker 5: So from that standpoint, yes, I understand it. But just

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Speaker 5: a regular composite preseason game on a random Friday, I

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Speaker 5: just I don't know if I can sit there and

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Speaker 5: I just can't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But well, remember real quick.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm not glued to it. But you know, it's

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Speaker 4: like law and Order in the background. Like I'm not

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Speaker 4: glued to law and order, a bar rescue. I just want, okay, well,

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Speaker 4: back ground noise. That's better. That's better background noise. I

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Speaker 4: get it.

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Speaker 5: Just I just that's that. That wasn't the vibe that

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Speaker 5: I was getting initially. And that's fine if you are

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Speaker 5: glued to it. I don't, but watch you. I was

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Speaker 5: glued to it, and that's great. I'm going to tell

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Speaker 5: you I was glued to it.

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Speaker 2: Here's why, because now I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: flighting it. Go oh, I'm glued to every preseason football game,

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, coming up, I'm not. But it's the

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Speaker 5: Fox for fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, it's right, it's it's you know, ESPN,

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Speaker 2: and I'm watching those two and I'm going, all right,

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Speaker 3: I you know, I'm into it. So I was clue to.

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Speaker 4: It to that end. Like to that end, I did

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Speaker 3: It did it?

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Speaker 4: I think that it was whole of fame.

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Speaker 3: I love the whole of fame.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I look forward more to the speeches today than I

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Speaker 4: Okay, you guys are crazy about that. The speeches are

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Speaker 5: That's me, Well, there there's a ten minute limit and

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Speaker 5: move on. It's not as bad as it was a

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Speaker 4: No, even at that. I'm just like, I just I want,

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Speaker 5: With I'd much rather hear from Julius Peppers than here

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Speaker 2: But you're not doing that like they're talking about this season.

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Speaker 2: to Julius Peppers and big smile, right, and and you

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Speaker 5: The irony of that Devin Hester is going in and

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Speaker 2: So I'm watching them, I'm and I'm thinking the same thing,

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Speaker 2: let's throw this out there. Since you brought up the

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Speaker 2: it looked gimmicky, it felt weird. It's got potential because

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Speaker 2: Majestic Open right, There's something about the kickoff because as

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Speaker 8: So the only thing I would say is I covered

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Speaker 4: It doesn't it to me? Was the way you described

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Speaker 4: It's because of the proximity of everybody. It's a little

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Speaker 4: all these stupid like that was stupid to me. But

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with its one thousand percent on this one.

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Speaker 5: it's weird. They're not used to it. What you are

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Speaker 5: Now there's at least an element of excitement to it.

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Speaker 5: excitement back to the kickoff. It's not a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 5: And to your point, it's an actual football play now.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, you know, And I can see where you

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Speaker 4: But everything you just mentioned in baseball, you may not

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Speaker 4: and the kickoffs before had become virtually a wasted play.

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Speaker 4: So now you at least give yourself a chance. We're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and oddly it's you know, it does help with

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Speaker 2: It was you know, dangerous. I mean no kickoff. I

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Speaker 3: But you can't have kickoffs like that anymore.

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Speaker 5: Which is why this was such a great idea because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too. And you remember, you know, before

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Speaker 2: know the theme where the Fellas were just getting started

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Speaker 2: we're talking about the as you can well imagine Thursday

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Speaker 2: night start of the preseason Buck Aikman, Canton, Ohio New Kickoffs,

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Speaker 2: the new inductees into the Hall of Fame, and they're Fitzy.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you've been to Canton, right, Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, so I've never been to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: No really.

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Speaker 4: We played once not too far from there, but it

475
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Speaker 4: was like twenty twenty five minutes away, and that's just

476
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Speaker 4: far enough. In the touring world pre uber that you

477
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Speaker 4: were sort of stuck, and so I didn't have anybody

478
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Speaker 4: that wanted to go. And when there's one guy on

479
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Speaker 4: a tour with you know, hundreds, you don't get to

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Speaker 4: just you know, get out there, Sona. That's closest I've

481
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Speaker 4: come been to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: been to Cleveland a bunch, and played outside of Canton,

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Speaker 4: but never been to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I want you to make the pilgrimage

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Speaker 2: at some point, maybe next summer, maybe, uh in the

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Speaker 2: off season. Maybe we'll give you a show there. It's

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Speaker 2: it's awesome, dude, It's figure have you ever read?

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, no, but it's definitely on the bucket list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, now we need to we definitely need

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Speaker 3: to do a show there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I fitz you would You'll

492
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Speaker 2: you'll love it because it's a celebration of the sport.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Like the Louver right, like it's got if you care,

495
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: which we do, and uh, you go there and it's

496
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Speaker 2: just feels it exudes football and the Hall of Fame

497
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Speaker 2: weekend is awesome and you see it all. It's like Cooperstown.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if you either of you

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Speaker 2: guys have been to Cooperstown, but it's it's a celebration

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Speaker 2: of the sport and I love it. I could spend

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Speaker 2: hours and hours in that place, look at all the

502
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Speaker 2: stuff and all the exhibits, and it really is it's

503
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Speaker 2: a timeline of the sport, the great players, and I

504
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Speaker 2: love them.

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Speaker 3: I highly recommend the way.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I really want to do it, and sometimes

507
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: I think it's on the plate, like we talk about

508
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Speaker 2: it once a year, but the FED really needs to

509
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Speaker 2: go and just see it once.

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Speaker 5: It's one thing I.

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Speaker 4: Love about you, and not just because we're on air together,

512
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Speaker 4: but that I think is interesting because we've talked before

513
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Speaker 4: about the fact that maybe I don't gravitate towards history

514
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Speaker 4: the same way a lot of people do, right, Like

515
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Speaker 4: I'm sort of an in the moment person, right, But

516
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Speaker 4: there is a difference between you know, dwelling on all

517
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Speaker 4: of these things in the past that I don't necessarily

518
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Speaker 4: do well versus appreciating the aura of something that got

519
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Speaker 4: you to where you are. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: If that sounds as cheesy as that sounds like to me,

521
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Speaker 4: there's something beautiful when you're at the Rock and Roll

522
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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and you see like the piece of

523
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Speaker 4: paper that a song was written on, and yes, there's

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Speaker 4: just something to that that just really reminds you. Reminds

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Speaker 4: me of the beauty that music can bring, right, And

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Speaker 4: so the way you describe that is so perfect, because

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Speaker 4: sometimes in my mind, I think there's just a part

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Speaker 4: of me that's like, yeah, football in the fifties, Like

529
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Speaker 4: I understand it, but it doesn't really like I I

530
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Speaker 4: don't have to feel like I'm part of it to

531
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Speaker 4: love the game today. But at the same time, I

532
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: do think there's something beautiful in the way you describe

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Speaker 4: that of just like being around the spirit of football.

534
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm so cheesy right now, but it's

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Speaker 4: it's just the way you described it. It totally gave

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Speaker 4: me the feels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and it's got that, and it's the players,

538
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Speaker 2: and you learn a lot about it and it's just

539
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Speaker 2: something you care about, right, So I get, you know,

540
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Speaker 2: about being in and out, which I actually admire and

541
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Speaker 2: I think is a really good thing.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot you know what. Moderation, my friend, is

543
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Speaker 4: something that I'm learning. I've never done well. There's probably

544
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Speaker 4: a good line between being in the now and also

545
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Speaker 4: appreciating what's happening in life. I've never done that very

546
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Speaker 4: well ever.

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Speaker 2: Well, especially with something that you love, like how much

548
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: you love football and you know the Raiders, like you

549
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: go back and you'll just the Madden stuff that's there,

550
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Speaker 2: and the celebration of that team.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's cool too, like just seeing you know, the.

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Speaker 2: Your team and through the years and and just you know,

553
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Speaker 2: again the great players that you heard about, the lore.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's got that kind of cool vibe to it. Man. Yeah,

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00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: I love I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I did when I first time I went, and I

557
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: did it as a reporter when I was the Post

558
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Speaker 2: and I did a whole weekend there in Canton when

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00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: Reggie White got inducted in four and it was like

560
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: an Eagle celebration and and it was funny.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember who was to me from the Packers.

562
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: I was getting in.

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Speaker 2: Well, Reggie also played for the Packers too, so there

564
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: was some you know, Green Bay there. And it's cool,

565
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: like there's a every team has a legion of fans

566
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it feels like you're your your brethren.

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Speaker 3: You know. The one thing about you know preseason.

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Speaker 2: Two is you you're all any together before we're before

569
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: we become tribal and and go into our respective places

570
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: with our teams. You you you like Bob because over

571
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: the sport itself.

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00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 4: The way you described that, before we become a tribal,

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Speaker 4: I just love that because you're so right, Like so

574
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Speaker 4: before we all decide that we're going to turn on

575
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Speaker 4: each other and now it's the part of the flies

576
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: we at least in the beginning, you're like, you know what,

577
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: I really respect you man, Like you're right about that too.

578
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 4: You can see that so often in general with the

579
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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame game, you can see like the love

580
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: everybody has for others, like, oh, we're all fans, we're

581
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: all in this together, we all love each other. And

582
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: then like by week three, we'll all hate each other, right.

583
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Speaker 5: I just love the the appreciation that you have for

584
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: for a great play. The all the old saying of

585
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: like you don't know where you're going unless you know

586
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 5: where you've been, you know, to be cheesy or poetic

587
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: or anything. But you know, and I was beautiful man,

588
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 5: just watching, you know, seeing player great players who made impacts.

589
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: We talked about Devin Hester, you know, and you know

590
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: he wasn't didn't really make much of an impact on offense.

591
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: But I was as important of a piece to those

592
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: Bears teams. I mean, it was as big of a

593
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Speaker 5: reason as any that they even made it to the

594
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl the year that they made it, in two

595
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 5: thousand and five. And think of how crazy they has

596
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: to say about a specialist, about a return specialist, and

597
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: how many highlight plays he's had. The Dennis Green, you know,

598
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 5: slapping the microphone and all that that was because Devin

599
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 5: has to return two kicks in a game where the

600
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 5: Arizona was up big. You know, Mongol McMichael, long overdue

601
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: is making it in Julius Pepper is one of the

602
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Speaker 5: most dominant defensive ends of all time. Andre Johnson never

603
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 5: really did much from a playoff standpoint, but was one

604
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Speaker 5: of the best players in the sport for the time

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Speaker 5: that he played, Like, I have an appreciation and I

606
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: would go into a rabbit hole on YouTube and watch

607
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Speaker 5: like the one hundred greatest players of all time and

608
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: history stuff like that. I nerd out on things like that.

609
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: I have a great appreciation for all time players that

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Speaker 5: I saw that I didn't see, and then even greater

611
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Speaker 5: appreciation for the ones that I did who are now

612
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: finally getting their you know, getting their flowers and getting

613
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Speaker 5: inducted into the Hall of Fame or even now seeing

614
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: those things pop up on the whole potential Hall of

615
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 5: Fame list coming up. So I'm great, a great appreciator

616
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Speaker 5: of history when it comes to that sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: I do wonder when you mentioned that, because like, look,

618
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Speaker 4: I die on this hill. Every year we get to

619
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Speaker 4: Christmas time and I always say, like, you know, to me,

620
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: white Christmas Holiday, and these are like classic Christmas movies.

621
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Speaker 4: And when I talk to people younger when I was

622
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: working at ESPN that I worked with a lot, they

623
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: would all be like, I've never seen it, don't want

624
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Speaker 4: to see it. And there's this moment for me where

625
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: I look at the way the young population in general

626
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: has always always even when I was a kid, we

627
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: always looked at our mom and dad or like stay current,

628
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: like keep watching, keep listening. Right, So there's always been

629
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Speaker 4: the demand on people to stay current. But in today's

630
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Speaker 4: world where Spotify makes absorbing old music so easy and

631
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: Netflix makes absorbing old movies so easy, it's out there.

632
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: Like if you want to find culturally relevant historic movies,

633
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: like if you want to watch Cosablanca, you can do

634
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: that easy than ever now, you know. But like, I

635
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: find that a lot of people just don't seem to

636
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Speaker 4: have the interest to even try. So I wonder how

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00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: the current like in twenty years. I wonder what the

638
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame looks like for a generation that doesn't

639
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: seem as impassionate about necessarily going back in time for history.

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00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: You know what's I agree with you?

641
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: I think, by in large, I think people you know, are.

642
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Inherently afraid of.

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Speaker 2: The hit of history in the past because it takes

644
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: away from their moment and they don't want If they

645
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: were it's almost fomo right. Well, I wasn't around, so

646
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: you know, how do I know that was so great?

647
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm around now, so now it's great so that's kind

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Speaker 2: of the mentality right of why we don't like it.

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Speaker 3: But I will say, and this is interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think you're spot on about like Spotify, Netflix and all,

651
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Speaker 2: because I know a lot of young people that you know,

652
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Speaker 2: they have fallen in love with the stars or they

653
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Speaker 2: fall in love with the Beatles, and you know, they

654
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: they look at at that music and they.

655
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Speaker 3: Love it because it's great, and they should because it's great.

656
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Speaker 2: It's great music, it's and it's something that's timeless that

657
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Speaker 2: you know, you you look through time. Movies are probably

658
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Speaker 2: a little different because sometimes they're hard to translate to

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Speaker 2: modern day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of things don't don't age well for

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Speaker 5: lack of a better time.

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Speaker 4: Right, you know, I mean there's no cell phones, and topically,

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Speaker 4: I would some of the movies I just mentioned didn't

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Speaker 4: age well. It's important, you know, but we also can't

665
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Speaker 4: there's a fine line in art even of like That's

666
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Speaker 4: why I think there is some some storytelling to be

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Speaker 4: done about Hey, like this, this speaks to where the

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Speaker 4: country was and why there were some real problems. Then

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Speaker 4: I think they're still value in it. But yes, I mean,

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Speaker 4: we all remember what it was like when movies were

671
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Speaker 4: being remade all the time, and it's like, oh, well

672
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Speaker 4: they're just doing a remake of this or remake of that.

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Speaker 4: Now that becomes more and more frustrating to me because

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Speaker 4: if you really want to go see the movie, it's like,

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Speaker 4: why do you need to remake Footloos? The original Footloose

676
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Speaker 4: is out there on Netflix, just go watch it, right,

677
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: Like that's so there's a fine line on all that,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: Nah, totally totally, but it's it's it is interesting to

680
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Speaker 2: your point, you know, that your overarching point that you know,

681
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: you go back into something we all care about, and

682
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: you can look and see football through the years and

683
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Speaker 2: as you know, it's it's inception from I mean prehistorically

684
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: when you look back at old games.

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Speaker 3: I like, I'll go through the.

686
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Speaker 2: YouTube rabbit hole often and I watched these old games

687
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Speaker 2: and you know, like from the eighties or nineties and

688
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Speaker 2: the game looks slow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well the sixties, those Packers teams, you know, well.

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Speaker 2: That's even with anything with the goalposts in the front.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like those are like prehistoric, right, like those

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Speaker 2: are bc Uh.

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Speaker 5: I love that stuff though, I mean, and the NFL

694
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: has done a good job recently, Like I believe the

695
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Speaker 5: Ice Bowl, the old Ice Bowl between the Cowboys and Packers.

696
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Speaker 5: You're going to watch the entire game on YouTube. The

697
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Speaker 5: whole three and a half hour broadcast on the NFL's

698
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 5: YouTube page is right there for you to see if

699
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Speaker 5: you want to. It's awesome, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, I'm going to pose the question

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Speaker 2: and I we're going to go around the horn and

702
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: we're going to go three players from the past that

703
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Speaker 2: completely predates it.

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Speaker 3: That you would have interested watching. I love this, all right,

705
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Speaker 3: So well, we're going to get into that.

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Speaker 2: I got a bunch of these questions that I want

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Speaker 2: to kind of throw at you to signify that football

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Speaker 2: fitz Kevin Figures on Anthony Gargano. All right, So I

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Speaker 2: want to get into the about the books of these

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Speaker 2: questions that I want to run by you. And the

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Speaker 2: first one is because you're talking about the whole fame

721
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Speaker 2: and great players, you know, I want you to go

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Speaker 2: back and tell me.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna go one by one.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do it three times, three different players that

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Speaker 2: you would have loved to really see. And I want

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Speaker 2: to include the players that might have played when you

727
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Speaker 2: were a kid, because you didn't have the same discerning

728
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Speaker 2: eye when you're ten the way you do now is

729
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Speaker 2: an adult. Like I'll give you one of mine is

730
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Speaker 2: Dan Marie, Like I would have loved to watch Dan

731
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Marino now understanding the game, really seeing it, and now

732
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Speaker 2: seeing how his greatness could be. So watching a Dann

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Speaker 2: Marino today would be very interesting to me because the

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Speaker 2: key to me is the one quarterback from the past,

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Speaker 2: maybe along with Randall Cunningham, who would be great players today.

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Speaker 4: Uh are we gonna include lay In that? Would you

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Speaker 4: put Alway in that scene?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was a little later, It's just I guess why,

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Speaker 3: but not months later.

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Speaker 2: I mean he played longer, but yeah, I would include yeah,

741
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Speaker 2: l Way for sure.

742
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Speaker 4: Okay, so when you say blast from the past players,

743
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: my brain immediately goes to the defensive side of the

744
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Speaker 4: ball because for me now defense is so bastardized in

745
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: the way it's running. What's allowed. If I'm going to

746
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Speaker 4: go back in a time machine and get to watch somebody,

747
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: the first name that came to mind was Dick Buckers.

748
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 4: I just want to see somebody's commands in a lost

749
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: art because yeah, he does look him feel so different now,

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Speaker 4: Like I just I want to see people just get

751
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: on the field and just smack each other around. So

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Speaker 4: I went with Dick Buckiss as my first choice.

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Speaker 3: I like that. That's great. Figure.

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Speaker 5: The first one for me is a guy who was

755
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Speaker 5: a defensive back back in the fifties and sixties. Believe

756
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Speaker 5: it or not, his name was Dick Knight Train Lane.

757
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Speaker 3: Oh.

758
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 5: He was just as adept at getting interceptions. He still

759
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: holds the individual record fourteen interceptions in a single season,

760
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: still the most that any player has ever gotten, and

761
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Speaker 5: that was in the fifties and sixties when they barely

762
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Speaker 5: even throw the ball. He will also take your head off.

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Speaker 5: This was a corner who hit like a linebacker, not

764
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Speaker 5: even like a safety. They change rules three different times

765
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Speaker 5: during his playing career because of the way that he

766
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Speaker 5: tackled people and it didn't affect him one bit. The

767
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Speaker 5: you got jacked up segment that ESPN used to do

768
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Speaker 5: back in the day, those hits basically were revolutionized by

769
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Speaker 5: the way that he played because when they told him, hey,

770
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Speaker 5: you can't grab guys around the face, he said, all right,

771
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Speaker 5: I'll close line him around the neck. When they said

772
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Speaker 5: he can't close line him around the neck, He's like,

773
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Speaker 5: all right, I'll just take my forearm and just blast

774
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Speaker 5: the crap out of him in the chest. And that's

775
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Speaker 5: where those sort of hits basically came from, was from

776
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 5: Dick Knight train Lane and to watch his highlights and

777
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: to see the speed and really just how smooth he

778
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 5: is and being able to bake quarterbacks into into into

779
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: the throwing interceptions his way. I would love to have

780
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Speaker 5: been able to watch him play. He's one of those

781
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Speaker 5: players who just says generational that he probably would have

782
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Speaker 5: been now. Granted the rules are different, but he would

783
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Speaker 5: have been just as good of a player now as

784
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Speaker 5: he was back then. As watching I would love love

785
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Speaker 5: to see dig Nite train Lane play because his his

786
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Speaker 5: highlights look amazing.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is such a great answer because I you.

788
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Speaker 4: Know, again I going off the board a little bit,

789
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Speaker 4: by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, I gotta tell you guys killed it.

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Speaker 2: You guys killed it because like and as you both talking, going, yeah,

792
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: those are great answers, right, Like you would love to

793
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Speaker 2: see buckis, You'll love to see night train lane, Like

794
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: you said that corner who's laying the wood like something

795
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: we'd never seen Like today cornerbacks are these like you

796
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: know regal cats, right, Like they play with just pure

797
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: athleticism and no physicality. And back then it was the

798
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: sport was all physicality.

799
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Speaker 5: Back then he was blowing running backs up in the backfield.

800
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 5: It's insane to watch it really is.

801
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: Like there was a whole era, by the way, where

802
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: kids coming up wanted to play on that side of

803
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: the ball because you could just it was like being

804
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: a fighter, Like you could just get in and nail anybody. Now,

805
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: like much harder to convince somebody to want to be

806
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: a linebacker or want to be even in the secondary,

807
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: compared to the offensive money that goes out there and

808
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: the highlights go out there. So yeah, I it's totally

809
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: different era.

810
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: I want to see that, Yeah, when you sneeze on

811
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 5: a guy, if you're a defensive player, you're not sure

812
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 5: if you're gonna get a flag or get ejected or not.

813
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 5: So you don't even know how to tackle anymore.

814
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Speaker 2: That's right, And like that pure physicality and is uh

815
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean you go back and you look at some

816
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: of the old games. It is amazing, like the hits,

817
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: because it's stuff that just won't to you know, that

818
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 2: shouldn't happen today.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, it's a night and day. Yeah, right, and like.

820
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Speaker 3: You'd see it and you're like, oh my god.

821
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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's on anybody's list, but Jack Tatum,

822
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Speaker 5: I mean talk about a hand none my god.

823
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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Crazy.

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Speaker 2: All right, where the fella, it's gonna take quick t o.

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Speaker 2: talking heavy Football, Can I just say one thing? And

837
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Speaker 2: I I feel so guilty about this. Blake Snell throws

838
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Speaker 2: a no hitter last night. I mean, you know, I mean,

839
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Speaker 2: what an incredible feat and I and I was so

840
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Speaker 2: football focused and football centric that I didn't even mention it.

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Speaker 5: It's a tree falling in the forest, huh.

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Speaker 2: And I feel guilty about it because you know, I

843
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Speaker 2: profess how much I love baseball, and I don't even

844
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: mention in the first hour of our program because you know,

845
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Speaker 2: preseasons bad football, and now it takes center stage. You know,

846
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: no Katie Ledecki, no Shimon Biles, no Blake Snell. You know,

847
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Speaker 2: it was just an hour of you know, football's back,

848
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Speaker 2: and that's probably not right. So I need to apologize,

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Speaker 2: do you.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, look, we all understand. I will say

851
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: one thing about baseball with Blake Snell is like, this

852
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: isn't just some of those fly by night guy who

853
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 5: just got called up and he's having an amazing start.

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00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 5: Guys won a couple of cy Young's been an All

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Speaker 5: Star pitching in a World Series. All that, he's a

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00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 5: recognizable name now. Granted, the Giants in Cincinnati are not

857
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 5: going anywhere, which certainly doesn't help. You know, if the

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00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 5: Yankees are playing the Red Sox or they're playing Cleveland

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Speaker 5: or something, it was more of a marquee matchup, it

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00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 5: mean a lot more. But as of right now, you know,

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Speaker 5: you're kind of in the dog days of the Major

862
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 5: League Baseball season with two teams that aren't going anywhere.

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00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 5: Blake Snell didn't get traded at the deadline to a contender.

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Speaker 5: So it's a great story. Anytime you have a no

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Speaker 5: hitter or a perfect game or something like that, it's

866
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: obviously a phenomenal story. But the timing just wasn't right.

867
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: With a football coming back and these two teams going

868
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 5: not going anywhere. It's kind of just a perfect storm

869
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: of events for it's unfortunately not to be necessarily recognized

870
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 5: by as many people as it usually would.

871
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: Well.

872
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: But you know, one of the things that's uh that

873
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: I can't have it both ways, like I rail against

874
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: with the pirates to get schemes out right, you know,

875
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: with the no hitter going right, and I'm like, no,

876
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: hitter is so special and this and that, like, oh,

877
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: it's your fan base to achieve that. And if we're not,

878
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: if I'm not talking about it in the first hour,

879
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: if the fresh after it happens last night, then you know,

880
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: shame on me.

881
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: Part of it, though, is the nature of the beast

882
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: of what we do. I'm not trying to excuse any

883
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: of it, but I would say this, like, so.

884
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: Not Sports Center, So I agree with you.

885
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sports talk radio is like why are we

886
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: talking about it? What's the big what's the angle, what's

887
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 4: the conversation, what's the point? You know, and other than saying, Wow,

888
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: that's incredible and what an incredible moment for the fans. Okay,

889
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: but then then then what are we spend in ten

890
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 4: minutes on you know, Like that's just I'm being like

891
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: wildly real with everybody about sort of what our bosses

892
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: expect and what this media expects. Right Like, we get

893
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: we get coached on the term the broadest set of

894
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 4: the audience, right like, what are most people tuning in

895
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: right now to sports talk radio care the most about?

896
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: And the answer to that is going to be football,

897
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 4: even preseason football. That's just the way. So I don't

898
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: make the rules. That's just what it is. So you know,

899
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: I hear you. But I also don't know what great

900
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 4: conversation was missed by not talking about the no hitter

901
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: other than saying, hey, heck of a job. Congratulations, that's

902
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: really cool.

903
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's and that's it. That's where I was.

904
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: That's where I was wrong, Chilie.

905
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 5: It's also I think it kind of on the on

906
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 5: the way that baseball is viewed now, the way that

907
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: the game is played. It's almost as if the no

908
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 5: hitter is not as much of a novelty as it

909
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 5: used to be. I don't know what year it was,

910
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: it was either twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two.

911
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 5: We had a ton of no hitters. It's insane. And

912
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: the way that the game is played now, when you

913
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: have a bunch of flame throwers and a bunch of

914
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 5: guys who are swinging for the fences, and of the

915
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: night that the flamethrower is getting by everybody, and the

916
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 5: guys swinging for the fences are swinging and missing, I

917
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 5: feel like it's not as special as it used to be.

918
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 5: It's still special, it's still somewhat rare and I'll see

919
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 5: if I can find this, But there was one year

920
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago where there are like six

921
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: or seven no hitters in a season, yeah, you know,

922
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 5: and that whereas it used to happen once every couple

923
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: of years, right, So, I think the novelty of the

924
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: no hitter is just not what it used to be.

925
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 5: And that's and that's an indictment on how the game

926
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: of baseball is played nowadays. It's power versus power, and

927
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 5: if the pitching power is better than the hitting power

928
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 5: on that given day, you can see situations like this happening.

929
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 5: I mean, the last no hitter was what two weeks

930
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 5: ago before this was Dylan cease, and even two weeks ago,

931
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: it might have been last weekend.

932
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is, too, you know how we

933
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: view the sport like we view the sport.

934
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: A strikeout isn't a bad thing.

935
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you know, before he struck alls, not putting

936
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: the ball play, you know, things should happen when you

937
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: put the ball in play and all this other stuff.

938
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: And the strikeouts were evil, straight guts are no longer evil.

939
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: Nine twenty twenty one, there were nine no hitters. I

940
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: think how insane that.

941
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, that's that is wild.

942
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: Pick a year that's isn't that a little bit like

943
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: the triple double, like which was such an amazing thing

944
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: until it was an amazing thing. Like I mean, we

945
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 4: we see incredible things and then we just normalize it.

946
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 4: We're like, well, now that's not a big deal anymore.

947
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: And that's we. I don't mean you and I we.

948
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 4: I just mean the popular like society. That's just what happens.

949
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: No, I no, I'm with you, all right. So I

950
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: got that off my chest and thank you fellas for

951
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: make you feel better. Well we got it in. So

952
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah, and that's all I wanted to do. Yeah,

953
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: there you go.

954
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 3: So back to football.

955
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: So when last week left me just June joining in, right,

956
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: just tuning in to us. We're talking about you know,

957
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: obviously it's football. And we got it on the discussion

958
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: of the Hall of Fame because of the Hall of

959
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: Fame game. And I got a bunch of questions surrounding

960
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: the start of football.

961
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: And one of them is to go back and to.

962
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: Look at players who played before your time or when

963
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: you were young, and you couldn't really understand them how

964
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: their greatness? Right, Look, get me we're going three players

965
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: apiece that we wish we could have seen, And so

966
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: I started with Dan Marino just to to digest him

967
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: as an adult and his greatness. And then you guys

968
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: hit out of the ballpark with Dick buckets and night

969
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: train lane. As we went defense, you guys went defense,

970
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: and how great like defenses where back then? And you

971
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: know they had the nicknames right, the Purple People, Eaters,

972
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: the Vikings, steal Kurt and the Steelers all that. I

973
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: want to add another voice into it because he's our

974
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: senior here on the show. He's our technical engineer, Mighty Mark,

975
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: and Mighty Mark during the break said to me.

976
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 10: What I said, I wish you guys could have seen

977
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 10: Frank o'harris this and see if you could compare him

978
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 10: to how Dereck Henry runs. And my other ones would

979
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 10: be also Rocky, Blier and branch and blittann a cough

980
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 10: when it comes to wide receivers. So those are three

981
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 10: names I'm giving you right now. Yeah, but just Frank O'harris,

982
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 10: he was tall, he would gallop. I mean, we've all

983
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 10: seen the reception that he you know, immaculate, immaculate receptions,

984
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 10: and you could see how he runs. And if you

985
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 10: could look at that and look how Dereck Henry runs,

986
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 10: this big, gigantic, galloping guy that you can't take down.

987
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 10: You cannot bring him down if he's in an open

988
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 10: field and you try to run up and grab him.

989
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 10: And then there's Rocky Blier, another running back, and then

990
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 10: my other two would be Branch and Bullittannikoff of making

991
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 10: it three people we thought we talk about.

992
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you said that.

993
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: It's interesting because you know, people talk about Franko. Harris

994
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: and you know in Pittsburgh he's just you know, this

995
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: the legend right Penn State and all of p a right.

996
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: I was born in Pennsylvania, right, so Philly, and you

997
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: know the lore of Penn State. And frank o'harris was

998
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: with you know, he was like this amazing, you know,

999
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: amazing figure, mythical figure if you will, those running backs,

1000
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: and I think those guys, like I was about to say,

1001
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: Jim Brown, I I like thinking about Jim Brown, one

1002
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: of the greatest. You go back and you watch those highlights.

1003
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 5: You go, oh my god, always like a man playing

1004
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: with children against and it's ridiculous.

1005
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: Oh man, no wonder why like they looked at him

1006
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: as this you know, godlike figure, like he was impossible

1007
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: to take down. He was big, fast, and straw. And

1008
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: that's when the running back mattered.

1009
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 7: Right.

1010
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: The game is so interesting back.

1011
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: Then, right, guys, because the back was it like everybody

1012
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 2: had to have the back. Like go back to drafts,

1013
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: you know, up and through the eighties and into the nineties,

1014
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 2: running backs were populated in.

1015
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: The first round like they were the quarterbacks.

1016
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, the quarterbacks were nowhere near as popular back then,

1017
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 5: or were near perceived to be as important as the

1018
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: running backs were. It's not I.

1019
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 4: Think, you know, it speaks to the physicality that came

1020
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: with football. Football is still it's a wildly physical game

1021
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: because of the way it is built. But let's be honest,

1022
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 4: football in the sixties was a much different version of physicality.

1023
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 4: Like it's just people were just hammering people. So if

1024
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: you're gonna have, like I mentioned, dick Buckets, if you're

1025
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: gonna have somebody like tick Buckets laying out hits, you

1026
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 4: better have somebody that can take that hit and still

1027
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: get up and take the ball over and over and

1028
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 4: over again. And let's also admit too that these guys

1029
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: were doing that in an era where they didn't have

1030
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: cryo chambers to help with their body healing, like they

1031
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 4: didn't have all of the modern accoutrements that we have

1032
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 4: now to try and help guys get through recovery. Didn't

1033
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: have any of that, Like they had off seats and jobs,

1034
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: and then they were just getting a snoppeat out of

1035
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 4: them getting up and doing it over and over and

1036
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: over again.

1037
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's you know, I know there's a cliche here,

1038
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: but that's when men were mad bad. I'm not a

1039
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: man compared to that. Like those dudes, I mean they

1040
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: just took it bad.

1041
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now there were teams back then that zagged a

1042
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 5: little bit when everybody was zigging and so I yes,

1043
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: so Mark, you brought up you have the thunder and

1044
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 5: lightning for the Raiders with a Cliff Branch and bolitan

1045
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 5: a coffee, you know, the vertical game and airing it out.

1046
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 5: Cliff Branch. Everybody knew exactly what he was going to

1047
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 5: do every single play. He's just running a nine straight

1048
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 5: up the field and see if you can stop it.

1049
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 5: And most of the time people couldn't, you know. So

1050
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 5: there was so there was that element of it too.

1051
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 5: United colds through the ball a lot back in his day,

1052
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 5: or at least a lot for the time that they played,

1053
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 5: you know, and had there had a measure of success

1054
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 5: as well. So the idea where people think this is

1055
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: so revolutionary and everybody's doing things differently than everybody else

1056
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 5: and they're reinventing the wheel. Everything is so cyclical in

1057
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 5: this league, it really is at all.

1058
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's you're right, and that's going to

1059
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 4: continue to happen in the league even as we see

1060
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 4: it right now. Like you know, every time it spreads out,

1061
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: somebody figures out that the way to counter that is

1062
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 4: to pack it in, and then they do the opposite.

1063
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: So it's like this this pattern, we all just wait

1064
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: for it to continue and it never ends. So I

1065
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 4: totally agree with your assessment there.

1066
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny and how stuff concepts come back like forever.

1067
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: I'll never forget when the Washington brought back the read

1068
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: option with RG three, it was like, oh my god, meanwhile,

1069
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: that's what they rad like back in college. They read

1070
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 2: it was antiquated. It became antiquated in college.

1071
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 5: Or remember the Wildcat with Ronnie Brown and h and

1072
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 5: Ricky Williams in Miami. Well, I mean the quarterback was

1073
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 5: a glorified running back back in the day in the fifties,

1074
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 5: the quarterback that was Yeah, that's exactly what the offense

1075
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 5: was back then.

1076
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: That's pretty interesting. I these concepts kind of coming back

1077
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: and forth in the history.

1078
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Speaker 3: I'll never forget sitting.

1079
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 2: With and I talk about it sometimes because he was right, uh,

1080
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: sitting with Spags in like oh eight. He had gotten

1081
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: a job with the Rams, and we were talking about

1082
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: guy had Stephen Jackson, and you know, obviously everybody was

1083
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: into the quarterback at all.

1084
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 5: You know, a physical, upright runner. Stephen Jackson was a

1085
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 5: beast in his day too.

1086
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: And we were talking about the cycle of you know,

1087
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: the sport and how remember everybody was devaluing safeties and

1088
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 2: linebackers because nobody was running the football. And he's like, dude,

1089
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 2: it's going to come back. It just it just always does.

1090
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: And sure enough, we've seen it. We seen it come back.

1091
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: Even though the rules, you know, more and more they

1092
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: get changed all the time about the past, the running game,

1093
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: you know, we've seen it matter.

1094
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: You also see its interesting. So the valuation or the

1095
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 5: value of linebackers has returned, but it's a different type

1096
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: of linebacker now than it was when it was your

1097
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 5: bucket types. Because, as Patrick Willis gets ready to go

1098
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 5: into the Hall of Fame, one of the great linebackers

1099
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 5: who was able to cover receivers and also be physical upfront.

1100
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 5: Fred Warner following in his footstets in San Francisco, is

1101
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 5: kind of that same mold. So a lot of the

1102
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 5: great linebackers you see now are the versatile types. If anything,

1103
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 5: someone like a Derrek Brooks was kind of revolutionary in

1104
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 5: that he was a smaller linebacker that can get up

1105
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 5: field and cover receivers well, is also extremely physical at

1106
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 5: the same time, and now pretty much every linebacker is

1107
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 5: built that way, the wint essential three down linebacker. A

1108
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 5: lot of teams are playing in nickel packages where you

1109
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 5: don't have three linebackers anymore. You have to have a

1110
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 5: linebacker that can stay on the field for the entire

1111
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: entire defense of you know, the entire playbook. So yes,

1112
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 5: there is a return to the value of the position,

1113
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 5: but the position in and of itself is different now

1114
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 5: than it was back then.

1115
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 4: Well, we've talked about this before we go watch the

1116
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: YouTube clips of football games in the eighties and nineties

1117
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: and see how differently everybody's built, Like everybody had little

1118
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: chicken legs and huge shoulders because that's what you needed

1119
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: at the time in the league to just be able

1120
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: to punish somebody. And that speaks to the linebacker position also,

1121
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: like the balance on bodies is so much different than

1122
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 4: it was thirty forty years ago. Watching the sport, I

1123
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 4: think it's one of the most incredible things. You can

1124
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: not only see that athletes can take better care of themselves,

1125
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 4: you can see that the training of athletes has just

1126
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: gotten smarter and smarter and smarter to where guys are

1127
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: just physically they're just in a they physically have a

1128
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 4: different shape to be able to play the game.

1129
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: How about do you guys remember like back then they

1130
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 2: had two hundred and ninety pounds ends.

1131
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, which was just seventy pound linebackers.

1132
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, Well, I mean think about the fridge

1133
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: being People were like nobody could ever tackle somebody as

1134
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: huge as the fridge. He'd be an undersized defensive tackle. Now, like,

1135
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 4: what are we talking about? Like that's how different, Bob.

1136
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And everything was so packed in you go watching

1137
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 5: no games back and everything is just so tight you know,

1138
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 5: full back and two and tight ends and everything is

1139
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 5: now everything is so spread out. If you're someone who

1140
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: just didn't know the difference of it, you'd be looking

1141
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 5: at a completely different game. If you were to watch

1142
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 5: highlights of a super Bowl from the eighties and one

1143
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 5: from say last year, Yes, the night and day.

1144
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: Almost yeah, because everything is between the tackles. Yeah, right,

1145
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: like everything was between the tackles smash like think about

1146
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: you know how much the route and the run get

1147
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 2: like I you know, it was me. It was so frustrating.

1148
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 2: I remember being a kid being frustrated by the play

1149
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: call and go. You know it's like first down, run

1150
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: second and nine, run third and seven, throw under the

1151
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: sticks right like underneath and he'd be like, what is

1152
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: that so second and nine? Why are you in front

1153
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 2: of the football?

1154
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 5: So were you like an air corio guy or something,

1155
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: as you fall in love with the West Coast and

1156
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 5: what a fouts and those guys are doing because of oh.

1157
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: My god, yes, it was so Yes, it was great

1158
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: because like just being a kid watching that kind of football,

1159
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: I mean that never it never made sense to me

1160
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: that if it's second and long and you're staring at

1161
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: a front, and remember they would play you want to

1162
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: talk about the box being loaded? Yeah, I mean they would.

1163
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: Have eight men box, nine men box, nine men. We

1164
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 3: can imagine, how are you gonna run against nine men box?

1165
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 5: And they'd run right into it head first.

1166
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 4: It's oh god, yeah.

1167
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: And the thought of what it plays.

1168
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 4: That could you imagine taking this year just take this

1169
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 4: year's highlights from across the NFL of third and three

1170
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: or shorter and go back in time and play. For

1171
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: every coach in the NFL in the eighties nineties, they

1172
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 4: would have gone absolutely out of their mind seeing how

1173
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: a shotgun throw the ball as done it like third

1174
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: and three, you know, three yards and a cloud of dust.

1175
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: We all grew up with these things. Like third and

1176
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: three was a I'm gonna try and get my beefcake

1177
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: to take down your beefcake, and we're gonna fall forward

1178
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: for three yards. I dare you to stop me. And

1179
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 4: now third and three is spread them out and let's

1180
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: see if we can get something quick slant over the

1181
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: middle and get a quick completion and just keep running

1182
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: this this thing done. It's it's crazy how much that

1183
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 4: has changed.

1184
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: I know, I mean, it's it's wild and it's funny

1185
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: where you go, you never just it's the game so

1186
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: more sophisticated, like how the game is coached, how the

1187
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: game is thought about, is way more sophistic and it is,

1188
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: like I'm about I'm not making a statement one era

1189
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: is better than the other era. Like wherever you are

1190
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: you're from, you're always going to be partial to because

1191
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: or whatever. I get it, But if you're to look

1192
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: at it objectively, it's way more, way more sophisticated. Now yeah, well,

1193
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean these guys didn't look at they like they

1194
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: just didn't. Dude, I'm sorry, but real quick, the I

1195
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: was watching a game and it's just in the nineties

1196
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: and during the pandemic. On my show, I would do

1197
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 2: the think will playback, and I would pick a game

1198
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 2: in history every day and I would break it down

1199
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: and I go way back.

1200
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 3: So there was an Eagles Raiders game.

1201
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: And it's it's two minutes and the Eagles are running

1202
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: place that they weren't taking a knee like they weren't.

1203
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: They were throwing the ball like it was stupid, like

1204
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: they were doing stuff they were they were winning a game.

1205
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: All they had to do was like manipulate the clock.

1206
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: I forget what it was, but like they're up like

1207
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: two scores, it's inside three minutes, and like they're just

1208
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: throwing the ball like dumb stuff, and the Raiders come

1209
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: back and tie the game right like win it overtime.

1210
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 4: It was.

1211
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: It was absurd. It's like, how could you manage this game?

1212
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: Like who?

1213
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: Like you should have been fired, Like you would have

1214
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: been fired on the spot if it happened today.

1215
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 5: It's just a difference in mentality because back then it

1216
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 5: was all about being tough. He's like, hey, we're not

1217
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 5: gonna sit here and take a knee. We're going to

1218
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 5: the knee wasn't even a concept that anybody even thought

1219
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 5: of at that point in time. We're just gonna ram

1220
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 5: it ahead and we're gonna we're tougher than you are

1221
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 5: and it doesn't matter. So where now it's just like, well,

1222
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 5: what's the smart play? Like, what's what's the easiest way

1223
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 5: the highest percentage of us to be able to get

1224
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 5: this first down?

1225
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 4: You know?

1226
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 5: And the old school people would say like, oh, you

1227
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 5: guys are doing all this man be pamby reverse stuff

1228
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 5: and slants and all that. We would ram our head

1229
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 5: into the middle. I was like, well, was that really

1230
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: the smart thing to do at the time. If the

1231
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 5: goal is to get the first down, whatn't I want

1232
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: to maximize my chances of being able to do that,

1233
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 5: And maybe throwing a slam pass to my athlete who

1234
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 5: can beat their athlete on the perimeter is better than

1235
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 5: ramming a through two hundred and sixty pound guy into

1236
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 5: a two hundred and twenty pound guy off the middle

1237
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 5: and hoping my guy wins.

1238
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 3: Exactly, you know, exactly.

1239
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: And then I remember one of the it was one

1240
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: of the game time touchdown was up on an interception.

1241
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: It was third and seven and the Eagles through the

1242
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 2: ball when they're up.

1243
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like there was no like you would never have.

1244
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 2: Thrown today, like you have run it, and they threw

1245
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: it and Connie Game through an interception and I'm like, oh.

1246
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: Like why would you throw the ball at this spot?

1247
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 3: Like like what's wrong with you?

1248
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 5: I don't get the announcer say anything at that point

1249
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 5: or Yeah.

1250
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: It was like like and this is like Madden or

1251
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: whatever whoever was there was that era right, Like it

1252
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: was like, you know, it wasn't nineteen sixties, it was

1253
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: nineteen nineties.

1254
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it's cap Randall, you're thinking like you know, nineties, yeah, right.

1255
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: Right, and yet they still like stuff that we take

1256
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: for granted in the game. They still like that's a

1257
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: cardinal sin that the coach committee. It was like, what anyway,

1258
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,360
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1259
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,600
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Speaker 2: the air. All right, fellas hanging out and we're going

1278
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: through our players before we continue with hours. Uh, Brie,

1279
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. Get you which players

1280
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: would you have?

1281
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 11: So it's funny because you know, we have two Raider

1282
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 11: fans on the show, and actually Kenny Stabler was one

1283
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 11: of mine, the first one.

1284
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, that's a great one.

1285
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: That's a great answer. He was he left handed. Uh,

1286
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: he was like a bigger than life character. I mean,

1287
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: you guys know, you guys are Raider fans. Uh, there

1288
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: was a great I remember supports illustrated after a game

1289
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: and he's sitting there and you know, he's beaten and

1290
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: battered and he's got a cigarette and a beer.

1291
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 4: Just the thought of that being like the thought of

1292
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 4: my home sitting in front of his locker room afterwards,

1293
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, my guys gotta get here. It like

1294
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 4: it's just so fortant.

1295
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: It's how nuts is that? I mean they're sitting there

1296
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: like they were, and that's how it was. I remember

1297
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: going into a who was it?

1298
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: God? It was a basketball.

1299
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 11: Moses No Milo's Testofovich the Clippers guy, right, was he

1300
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 11: the point guard Milos was talking about?

1301
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was another guy was a Rick Mhorn

1302
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: was a rick out somebody. I remember when I was

1303
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: first covering sports, and this was in the mid and

1304
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: like in the nineties, and I walked into six Ers

1305
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: locker room and one of the players just sitting there

1306
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: with a smoke and a beer. And the beer wasn't

1307
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: anything any big deal, but I remember thinking, like, why

1308
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: is he smoking?

1309
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: Like how you played basketball? You're smoking?

1310
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: Like I just remember thinking at that point, like, you know,

1311
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: I was twenty two, twenty three years old to thinking, wow, man,

1312
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: that's crazy.

1313
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 3: So what else? She got?

1314
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 11: Bree And then I had a Ricky William and Dion

1315
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 11: Sanders those are my other two.

1316
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, that's good stuff. I love your Kenny

1317
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: Stable bad.

1318
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 4: We just loved that. I love the Dion major list,

1319
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 4: which makes me feel wild, very old.

1320
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 11: I'm sorry, It's just I was so young. I was

1321
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 11: probably like two years old or something, you know, I

1322
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 11: mean I was alive at least, right.

1323
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 5: I missed the very very beginning of Dion and is

1324
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 5: Atlanta days and all that. But by the time he

1325
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 5: got to Dallas and San Francisco and especially when he

1326
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 5: came back with Baltimore. I was, I was, that was

1327
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 5: knee deep into it. So Ken Staveler, by the way,

1328
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 5: uh we go talking about the Immacula reception before that

1329
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 5: play had a great thirty five forty yard touchdown run

1330
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 5: as a quarterback against Pittsburgh and had not, had it

1331
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 5: not been for the Immacula reception, that would have been

1332
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 5: the highlight of that game.

1333
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's right.

1334
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 5: I think that was the only touchdown to the Raiders

1335
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 5: score that entire game.

1336
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: That's a great pool zero.

1337
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 4: Is there a fan base that has more if it

1338
01:05:54,440 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 4: wasn't fo Yeah, oh god, I'm not sure. That's still hurting.

1339
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 4: It's fine, it's fine.

1340
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 5: Oh maybe Cleveland.

1341
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. The fumble and the drive back to

1342
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: back I mean you.

1343
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: Know, back to back years.

1344
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1345
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's brutal, that's cross. That is all right.

1346
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: Let's keep going through your guys lists. So, uh, Fitzy,

1347
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: you're up. Fitzy, you gave you go.

1348
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 4: I gave a dick Buckets the first time. I stay

1349
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball because again, I

1350
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 4: I just want to watch people get absolutely hammered. I

1351
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: stay with my favorite team and I go to the

1352
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 4: Mad store Ted Hendricks, Like, that's to me, that's I

1353
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 4: want somebody that is just that instills fear in the

1354
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 4: heart of anybody that chooses to cross the middle of

1355
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 4: the field. And that's exactly what he did for I mean,

1356
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 4: part of the reason that the main reason I'm a

1357
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: Raiders fan. My dad was a Raiders fan. You know,

1358
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: we watched the game every Sunday and split a dozen

1359
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 4: donuts And there's just this element of like part of

1360
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 4: why my dad's a Raiders fan is because of Ted Hendricks.

1361
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 4: So like there's just certain guys that established not just

1362
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 4: how they play the game, not just how the game

1363
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 4: was played. Not only are they part of every highlight

1364
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 4: reel you could ever imagine from hard hits, but also

1365
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 4: establish the identity of an organization for an entire generation

1366
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: and for generations to come. Like there are still there

1367
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 4: are Raiders fans today that are influenced even if they

1368
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 4: don't know it, by the play Aten Hendrick. So he

1369
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 4: goes on my list.

1370
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: How great a nickname is the mad Stork, right?

1371
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: I mean think, I mean think about that fire, not

1372
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: just the Stork, the mad Stork, right, Like he's out

1373
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: of his mind. It's the stork that is touched in

1374
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: the head like that is awesome.

1375
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 4: Man.

1376
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you were talking about, like, you know guys,

1377
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 5: you know positions they played back in the day. He

1378
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 5: was he was six seven as a linebacker. Yeah, like

1379
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 5: you to be a TB a defensive end. He'd be

1380
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 5: an edge rusher today. You know, he was a stand

1381
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 5: up linebacker right about.

1382
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 4: You are so right about that, just his body being

1383
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 4: that much different. You're right, it's and that was also

1384
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 4: freakish for anybody to try and block, like a yeah, absolutely,

1385
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the equivalent like six to

1386
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 4: seven back then is the equivalent being seven something now,

1387
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 4: So absolutely incredible.

1388
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild, figgie.

1389
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go and stick with the defensive theme

1390
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 5: here as well. Saw a little bit of him on

1391
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 5: the back end of his career, but I was still

1392
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 5: young at the time. And that's Lawrence Taylor that I

1393
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 5: mean basically made the left tackle the second most important

1394
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 5: position on a football team single handedly because the San

1395
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 5: Francisco forty nine ers and Bill Wallace said, like, we're

1396
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 5: not gonna win a game. I win a playoff game

1397
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 5: if we can't block this guy, and it still didn't matter,

1398
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 5: and he'd come in. Look his his party days and

1399
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 5: all that are well documented. But this guy, he told me.

1400
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 5: You know, our locals show a story about how he

1401
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 5: came straight back from the Strip club one night. He

1402
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 5: and his limo driver were driving by the Giant Stadium

1403
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 5: and he says, what the hell's going on there tonight?

1404
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 5: They pulled in, He ran into Parcels in the hallway,

1405
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 5: and Parcels said, well, you're gonna get dressed for tonight

1406
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 5: or what? They had a game playing Sunday night football.

1407
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 5: He didn't even know, And he went out and had

1408
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 5: four sacks that night and they won.

1409
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: How nuts is?

1410
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 5: How insane is that he didn't even know there was

1411
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 5: a game? He said, And he was at this trip

1412
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 5: club all night, hadn't slept, and just rolled right to

1413
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 5: the stadium, had to be happened to be driving by

1414
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 5: and thought, oh oh there's a game going on all right,

1415
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 5: I guess I'll suit up.

1416
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1417
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 5: Just incredible freak of nature, crazy athlete, the only the

1418
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 5: last defensive player to win League MVP.

1419
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1420
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 5: He would have been incredible for me to be conscious,

1421
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 5: you know, now with the understanding that I have of

1422
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 5: the game of football now to actually see him and

1423
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 5: appreciate the kind of player that he was totally totally interesting.

1424
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting how you guys go all four of your

1425
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: players on.

1426
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 4: Defense honestly, Like, hey, we've seen everything on the offensive

1427
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 4: side of the ball now, so like I just if

1428
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 4: I'm an go back and watch Politnic, Coffin and Branch

1429
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 4: like that's yes, it's amazing, But is it really better

1430
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 4: than you know, one handed obj I I don't know.

1431
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I know for I know for

1432
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 4: sure that if you give me these guys, these guys

1433
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, what they're gonna

1434
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 4: do if I'm going to go back and watch him,

1435
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 4: is just going to be So that's why I loved

1436
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 4: your running back pick. Like I think you know, when

1437
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 4: you when you see what we can't see any more

1438
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 4: to that same level, it just hits different.

1439
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 5: Well, like the offensive player that I would pick is

1440
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 5: Jim Brown just because of because of how big he was,

1441
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 5: because of how fast he was. You know, he'd be

1442
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 5: the one offensive player from back in the day that

1443
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 5: I'd say, I want to be able to see and

1444
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 5: I want to be able to see him play in

1445
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 5: this era, and there's no doubt that he'd be just

1446
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 5: as good and just as dominant because he was an athletic,

1447
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 5: freaking nature back then.

1448
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 4: I My only, my only counter to that would be

1449
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about the football player, not the human being.

1450
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 5: But oh yes, always go back and watch.

1451
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 4: No doubt O Jay would be on my list. It's

1452
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 4: just I don't watch the way that looked.

1453
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: You know, listen, he crossed my mind. I was thinking

1454
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: for my third player. And you know, it's funny because

1455
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: like Ojy was, I mean, imagine two thousand yards, imagine

1456
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 2: that you were the whole team's offense. And you know,

1457
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: we think about today, right, and the injuries that happened today, right.

1458
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 3: I mean, those guys carried the ball.

1459
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: Now, it's sure shof LIFs, but they carried the ball

1460
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: thirty times a.

1461
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 5: Game, like four hundred times a season. And by the way,

1462
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 5: oh Jay's two thousand yards season, I think it was

1463
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 5: a fourteen game season. Yes, yeah, that makes it even

1464
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 5: more incredible. Yeah, and he was returning kicks at times too,

1465
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 5: like he was doing everything.

1466
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what was it that those guys?

1467
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they were injuries, but they were but there

1468
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of soft tissue injuries back then. And

1469
01:11:54,760 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: I guess because the game wasn't It's fast, but you know,

1470
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: there's not as much. You know, guys got hurt. When

1471
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: the guys got hurt, then it was broken bones, broken hand,

1472
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: broken leg, Like that's how they that's how they missed time.

1473
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 5: You didn't get a lot of hamstring polls and you

1474
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 5: know stuff like that. You know, at least you didn't

1475
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 5: get those that kept guys out of games. You know,

1476
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 5: I'll say that, No, they just played through it again.

1477
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 4: It was such a less it was such a less

1478
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 4: explosive game, right. I just wondered, like the wear and tear,

1479
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 4: because we talked earlier about how legs were scrawny then,

1480
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 4: but the wear and tear on knees and hammies and

1481
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 4: calves and feet, for the way the game is played

1482
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 4: explosively now, when you think about how fast everybody is,

1483
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 4: I just I just have to wonder if that plays

1484
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 4: a part in all of it.

1485
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, usually when you get players who are tearing acls

1486
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 5: or I'll think of like the NBA Achilles. You can

1487
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 5: think of someone like Dominique Wilkins. It's explosive players, Derek Rose,

1488
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 5: Guys who play like that, and to your point, fits

1489
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,839
Speaker 5: like in every sport, football and basketball especially now, everybody

1490
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 5: everything is so predicated on being fast, explosive, quick twitch.

1491
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 5: It wasn't and emphasis wasn't a focus. I don't even

1492
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 5: know if the guys were just talented enough, like our

1493
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 5: good enough athletes back then for that to be a

1494
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 5: major issue. So that's a good point.

1495
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 4: But I do want to say quickly to that every

1496
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 4: time somebody says, well, Michael couldn't have played in this

1497
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 4: era or Lebron couldn't have played in that era. Anytime

1498
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 4: I hear that, the one thing I remind everybody is

1499
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 4: look back at the past. Every single era, athletes have

1500
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 4: taken advantage of the best training that they have to

1501
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 4: be the best version of themselves that they can be.

1502
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: So I would presume that any of the players we're

1503
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 4: talking about in today's era would be able to just

1504
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 4: morph their bodies just like athletes can. And if these

1505
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 4: athletes had played in that era, they would have bulked

1506
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 4: up just the way they were.

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01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 5: A thousand percent agree.

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you guys. All right, let's say

1509
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 3: quick too.

1510
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: Will come right back The next thing on what you

1511
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: think about is I'm going to give you, guys, you

1512
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 2: could have any quarterback, any era, obviously modern day or

1513
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 2: anything you want. You could take one running back, two receivers,

1514
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: and one tight end. So you get to build your

1515
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:16,440
Speaker 2: own dynamic five. So start sketching your dynamic five. One quarterback,

1516
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:22,959
Speaker 2: two receivers, one back, one tight end. Were the fellas

1517
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: hang it out right here Fox Sports Radio fellas Jason

1518
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: fitz Kevin figures, I'm Anthony Gargana. Uh, before we get

1519
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: back to you're gonna build your perfect five, your offensive five,

1520
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: because we're doing uh with football back I'm doing.

1521
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,480
Speaker 3: I have a bunch of questions.

1522
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: Uh that false star, our love of the game, and

1523
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: I want your perfect five quarterback, running back, two receivers,

1524
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 2: and a tight end. So it's your old five. We're

1525
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: gonna do that and coming out. But first, I want

1526
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: to get to Olympics for a second, and I want

1527
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: the stories that have stood out to you this so far.

1528
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 2: With the Olympics fits he what stood out to you

1529
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: so far?

1530
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 4: I think the most incredible thing with Leon Marshaan doing

1531
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 4: what he's doing in front of the home crowd and

1532
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 4: to hear that crowd. Like we all watch swimming every

1533
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 4: year in the Olympics, we always see what it looks like.

1534
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 4: But to hear the crowd pulse with him as his

1535
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 4: head comes out of the water is one of the

1536
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 4: coolest things that I've ever experienced. I was lucky enough

1537
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen I was in Rio, I was in

1538
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 4: the room when Phelps set the record. I think there's

1539
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 4: a magic to swimming live that I don't know that

1540
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 4: really gets captured on TV as much. But watching Marshawn

1541
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 4: do what he is doing in front of the home

1542
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 4: crowd particularly has been I think one of the most

1543
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 4: incredible Olympic memories, frankly, I've ever seen. So it makes

1544
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 4: me even more excited for what LA is going to

1545
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 4: be like a few years when we have the opportunity

1546
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 4: then to really see the best of sort of what

1547
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 4: we can be with our country. So I think it's

1548
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 4: really incredible.

1549
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 3: Big.

1550
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 5: I just think the fervor around the Olympics as a whole,

1551
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 5: the fact that Biles is back, you know, after what

1552
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 5: happened to her, and you know Tokyo a few years ago,

1553
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 5: and how well she and the gymnastics team is performing,

1554
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 5: and just the excitement and the exposure we talked about

1555
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 5: before the Olympics started and how you know, maybe it's

1556
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 5: lost its luster a little bit. It's not as popular,

1557
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 5: do people really care that much? And its TV ratings

1558
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 5: have been through the roof. Now, granted it's summer, a

1559
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 5: lot of people are off, kids are at home from school,

1560
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 5: and it's a lot of the events are on at

1561
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 5: a reasonable time. You're talking mid day East Coast time

1562
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 5: and you know, somewhat mid morning ish in the West Coast,

1563
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 5: and there's a little bit more of a time difference

1564
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 5: when it comes to Tokyo and some other places. So

1565
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 5: maybe that has something to do with it. But for

1566
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 5: a lot of people who thought the Olympics had lost

1567
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 5: its luster overall, I think it's kind of showing, you know,

1568
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 5: non pandemic year somewhat back to normal and from the

1569
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 5: United States standpoint, at least in somewhat digestible in a

1570
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 5: reasonable time for us to be able to view it.

1571
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 5: The Olympics is just as popular as it's ever been.

1572
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 5: And I think that's great. That's an encouraging thing, and

1573
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 5: that's a good sign. With the Olympics coming to Los

1574
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 5: Angeles in twenty twenty eight.

1575
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so cool.

1576
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Katie Ledecki and Simone Biles. The shot

1577
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 2: of Katie Ladecci where she looks like she's alone in

1578
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: the pool, that's unbelievable, right, Yeah.

1579
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 3: Simone Biles, who I just adore.

1580
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 2: I just think she's such a special, incredible gymnast, incredible athlete,

1581
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: and I love her as a woman in which she does.

1582
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: I just think she's awesome. Like those two to me

1583
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: have stood out as the highlights of the Olympics. The

1584
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 2: low light. I mean that the biggest disgrace ever. Shocked

1585
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: that that allowed to happen, that person who failed the test,

1586
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: the gender test and then beat up the Italian woman.

1587
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't have that.

1588
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 4: But it's complicated because that person was I mean, to

1589
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 4: be fair, that person was born of a woman and

1590
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 4: has been a woman in their entire life. They have

1591
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 4: a chromosome anomaly, they.

1592
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 5: Have a genetic defect.

1593
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 11: I know.

1594
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 4: So it's it's an interesting because where's the line on that, Like,

1595
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 4: you know, frankly, this isn't a lot of people just

1596
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 4: coming right in and saying, you know that it was

1597
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 4: a man that was choosing to compete in rhyme in sports.

1598
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 4: That's just a misrepresentation of what this is. So it

1599
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 4: gets really like to me, it gets really complicated because frankly,

1600
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 4: they're within the guidelines. Everything was done the right way,

1601
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 4: and it's a genetic anomaly, not you know, not someone

1602
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 4: that's trying to cheat.

1603
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: I get it, and like I listen, we've seen the

1604
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: other side with that wall is when it came to swimming,

1605
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 2: which I thought was a disgrace.

1606
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: But unfortunately you can't have that.

1607
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: It's it's not fair. It's not fair to it's not

1608
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 2: fair to women. I know it's complicated, and I understand

1609
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 2: that it's a genetic defect, but you can't you can't compete,

1610
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: not if you not if you had that kind of

1611
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: that kind.

1612
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 4: Of what you just tell them there was a woman

1613
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 4: like that is like this isn't this isn't even a

1614
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 4: like this isn't a transitioning or like I understand that

1615
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 4: the there's it's a really complex issue when it comes

1616
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 4: to what to do, uh in in sports in general.

1617
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: But this one it becomes it becomes a safety like

1618
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: it becomes a safety issue.

1619
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 5: Right well, I mean there's I mean, there are advantages

1620
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 5: a certain athlete that certain male athletes have other other

1621
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 5: male athletes. Are we saying that Lebron can't compete in

1622
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 5: the same NBA that John Stotton competed in because he

1623
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 5: has a better you know, athletic gene genealogy, which he

1624
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 5: probably did if you did deep enough. I don't know

1625
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 5: how that would apply.

1626
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1627
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: I got I gotta tell you, I I like it felt.

1628
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 2: It felt like a man versus a woman. Like that's

1629
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: the this issue. This woman has lost.

1630
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 5: I mean, she's been maybe slightly above average would be

1631
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 5: the way to put it. She's lost to other women.

1632
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 5: She's like Mike Tyson knocking people out left and right.

1633
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the conversation is different if that's the case,

1634
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 5: But that's not even close to being the case.

1635
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 2: I know, I look at the sheer power of the

1636
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: punch and I cringe. Where the fellas hanging out right here?

1637
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

1638
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1641
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Speaker 2: commence on a Fox Sports Saturday. It is August, the

1649
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: third August is here first preseason game in the books

1650
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: College football around the corner will have Week zero in

1651
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 2: just three more Saturdays. Three weeks Week zero in the

1652
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: beginning of college football, and then shortly thereafter we'll have

1653
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 2: a NFL kickoff. So it's uh, it's coming fast like

1654
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 2: a freight train. Hey, fellas, I know, I think we

1655
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: all we love like hanging out every Saturday morning, and

1656
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,919
Speaker 2: it's like you feel amongst family.

1657
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 3: So I have it.

1658
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: I have I need you guys because I'm scared. So

1659
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: I yeah, obviously I'm from Philadelphia if you listen to

1660
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 2: the show, and I'm an Eagle guy, right, Phillies, flyers, sixers,

1661
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: the whole thing. So the Eagles are coming off of

1662
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: an epic collapse right like, let's face it, they were

1663
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: ten and one, the team in the NFC. They beat

1664
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: the Chiefs on the road. The Dolphins the Bills. They're

1665
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: like cowboys. They smoked right, like, they beat everybody. They

1666
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: were ten and one, and then they collapsed, epic, epic

1667
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: collapse to the point where they got beaten by the

1668
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: lowly giants, the Seahawks. Right, they got smashed by the

1669
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 2: Buccaneers in the playoffs, sash by the Buccaneers. It was

1670
01:22:56,160 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 2: an epic fall off the table collapse. Well, the Phillies

1671
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: had the best record in baseball roll over the first

1672
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: half of the season, and they have now lost six

1673
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: straight series. And they were down eight nothing after three innings.

1674
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,440
Speaker 3: I'm starting to freak out.

1675
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 4: Look, I don't blame you on that one. Like, honestly,

1676
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 4: I think that's got Like, Look, I'm not saying that

1677
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 4: you need to freak out, but there is some level

1678
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 4: of man, didn't we just live this as a fan

1679
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 4: base that I think absolutely Like what you're I understand

1680
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 4: where the fear is coming from. My friend, I don't know, Like,

1681
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 4: you just need to see something. A little bit of

1682
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 4: good has to happen here, because a little bit of

1683
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: good will go a long way.

1684
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and me from you know, two thousand miles away,

1685
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, hey, you know, you're hitting a rough

1686
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 5: spot in the season. Sometimes these things happen for a

1687
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 5: number of different reasons. They're still have a healthy lead.

1688
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 5: I think they're still what five to six games up

1689
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 5: in the division at this point in.

1690
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 3: Time, So it were up double did they were?

1691
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 4: They were?

1692
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 5: And to see the problem is you're comparing this to

1693
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 5: what happened to the Eagles last year too. So if

1694
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 5: you just take these two things independent of each other,

1695
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 5: if the Eagles had a great year last year and

1696
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 5: they just lost in the NFC Tile Game and things

1697
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 5: didn't work out, maybe you be encapsulated a little bit differently.

1698
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any concern, but

1699
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 5: I'll say it's August third, So you much rather the

1700
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 5: Phillies work out whatever they need to work through now

1701
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 5: than on September twentieth, you know what I mean. Actually,

1702
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 5: I've got.

1703
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 4: A reason for you to hope. Cousin it has known

1704
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 4: you not for a year. I can tell you this.

1705
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 4: I sat with you on air every weekend and we

1706
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 4: talked about the Eagles, right, and you felt it when

1707
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 4: the Eagles were the ten and one, you felt it right.

1708
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 4: Then You're like, yeah, but it's not the right ten

1709
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: and one like you saw that from a mile away,

1710
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: you haven't had that same trepidation so far. So like,

1711
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 4: you know, you're smart when you take your when you

1712
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 4: put your your emotion out of it and your head

1713
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 4: into it, which you do a great job of doing

1714
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 4: all the Eagles thing before most people did. But I

1715
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 4: would say that you know the fact that you haven't

1716
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 4: had that same trepidation with the Phillies.

1717
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: Means something except down start and why because they're pitching.

1718
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: I go, they have been right. They're pitch is starting

1719
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: to leak oil. They're starting, they're starting rotation. It's funny,

1720
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: I say to my audience, because I'm the kind of

1721
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 2: voice of reason in the sense, well, you know, it's

1722
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 2: August and you're gonna go through funks and it's one

1723
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two games. Blah blah, blah's baseball. But

1724
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 2: I love what the Dodgers did getting Flaherty. They're going

1725
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: to get healthy rotation wise, So figure your boys are

1726
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: kind of in a good spot there.

1727
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 5: In some senses. Yes, I mean, you know, getting healthy

1728
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 5: is one thing. Will they be effective once they are healthy,

1729
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 5: because some of these guys were not even when they

1730
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 5: were So there's a lot of question marks arounding the Dodgers,

1731
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 5: even though they have some better health on horizon here

1732
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 5: in the coming weeks.

1733
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 3: I love what the Padres did.

1734
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,799
Speaker 5: I have a super pen now staying aggressive.

1735
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: Man, They're they're frightening. Uh, they're starting to hit the

1736
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: ball too. They're gonna get tattoos back. Ye, so they're scary.

1737
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: So it's just interesting parallel that you know, we saw

1738
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: the eagles fall off the table and fell off, because

1739
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: I do know it's an interesting story that's going on

1740
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 2: now because people are like freaking out in my town

1741
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: because they're going, oh my god, like what happened? You

1742
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: were rolling like it was every night. They were just

1743
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: pounded teams at citizens Back.

1744
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 3: Park, And now all the sudden they're like in this

1745
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: free fall.

1746
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: I got, I gotta my buddy touch sent me to

1747
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 2: petty free fall. And the other day he goes, I

1748
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: just I don't even I got didn't talk to him,

1749
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: I just got the petty free falling, and I go,

1750
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: he's watching the Phillies because they just lost. They got

1751
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 2: swept by the yank It was funny.

1752
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 4: Uh, that's hysterical. And by the way, too, still a

1753
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 4: hero on this show because it's such a cool nickname.

1754
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say.

1755
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 3: So, all right, a couple of things.

1756
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 2: I want to ask you guys this because the NFL

1757
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: Network did its top one hundred players, and I just

1758
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 2: say one thing, like, I think Tyreek Hill is great

1759
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: and he's the number one overall player, and I think

1760
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: it's fine. I'm sorry, nobody's better than Patrick Mahomes. He

1761
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 2: should be number one, there's not even a question in

1762
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 2: my mind. And he's number four. And listen, I love Lamar.

1763
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: I think he's dynamic. I like McCaffrey, and I you know,

1764
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill is a complete game changer.

1765
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: They ain't better than Mahomes.

1766
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 4: This is the normalization of greatness That makes me sick.

1767
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 4: Like at some point we just get used to seeing

1768
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 4: Mahomes do what Mahomes does, so then it's like, oh, yeah, Mahomes,

1769
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah he's fine. His number four is fine. Like we

1770
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 4: spent all last year saying this Chiefs team is not

1771
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 4: good enough to win a Super Bowl. And then one

1772
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 4: guy like, look, I if you take Tyreek Kill off

1773
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 4: that offense, sure it has an impact. I'm not saying

1774
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 4: it doesn't. But if you take Patrick Mahomes out of

1775
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 4: the chiefs offense. Good God, then everything changes and we

1776
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 4: all know that. So I just don't. I don't understand

1777
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 4: this at all. I didn't. I thought when I saw

1778
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 4: it it was stupid. It felt like it was clickbaity.

1779
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 4: It feels like they're just trying to make people react

1780
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 4: to it on social media, and I don't want to

1781
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 4: be treated like I'm stupid. So I just I hated

1782
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 4: everything about it.

1783
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 5: That's one hundred percent what it is. Fits they want

1784
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 5: to get people to talk about it. How can you

1785
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 5: leave Patrick Mahomes that far down the list they're trying

1786
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 5: to draw attention to it, because that's really the only

1787
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 5: justifiable reason. How can you pull Lamar Jackson, who hasn't

1788
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 5: won a playoff game in front of him? How in

1789
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 5: what world do you do that?

1790
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 12: I mean, it's in sane. Christian McCaffrey, it was a

1791
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 12: great player. I love Christian, I love Lamar. Tyreek Hill. Yeah,

1792
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 12: if I had an MVP vote last year, I would

1793
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 12: have given it to Tyreek Hill. I said it on

1794
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 12: the show.

1795
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 5: He's not I think he's that dominant, but he's not

1796
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 5: the best player in the NFL.

1797
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 3: It's not even It's like and it's interesting. It's not

1798
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 3: even closed that was on a.

1799
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 5: Super Bowl without him? What it's talking about here?

1800
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Everybody was like, there's no way in the world they

1801
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: could win without Tyreek Hill.

1802
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean Jay right back after he left

1803
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 5: and won, I mean twice, by the way, twice, right.

1804
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Twice they won two Super Bowls without him, and last

1805
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 2: year they won without a receiver.

1806
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 5: Basically, right, I mean what was a joke with the

1807
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 5: whole talk was all the drops, Yeah, all the receivers

1808
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 5: dropping balls left and right.

1809
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: Oh, I got the ball being on the money that

1810
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. It's unbelievable in twenty twenty four when we

1811
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: are like hypes on steroids in twenty twenty four, right,

1812
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 2: Like it's just amplified to the nth degree. And Patrick

1813
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: Mahomes is underrated? How in the world is he underrated?

1814
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 2: He is a great dude, Like tremendous a dude. Like

1815
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 2: you talk to anybody on the Chiefs, any coach, I

1816
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: talk to those guys.

1817
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 3: They love him. He does all the right things.

1818
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 2: He's a great role model, do everything, teammate selfless, and

1819
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 2: he's the best player by far.

1820
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 3: He's a magician. How is he underrated? How do we

1821
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 3: how could he possibly be underrated?

1822
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 4: He is? He is because if they put out the

1823
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 4: list of Mahomes's number one, nobody talks about it, and like,

1824
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to be j on it, but that's

1825
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 4: got to be the only reason. Just think about it.

1826
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 4: If I if I went to every single person listening

1827
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 4: right now and said, got to take off this.

1828
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 5: The the players vote on this, vote on this, yes.

1829
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't I will believe. Look supposedly America

1830
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 4: votes on American Idol too, But all I'll tell you is,

1831
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 4: is it an accident that the same guy that runs

1832
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 4: American Idol never had two conflicting acts year in and

1833
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 4: year out?

1834
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Like? Is it?

1835
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 4: We think America is so varied that in the beginning,

1836
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 4: the same record label, the same executive is running the show,

1837
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 4: and you get one year, You're like, oh it's country girl,

1838
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 4: Now it's a pop girl. Now it's a gospel guy.

1839
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I built a whole record label worth

1840
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 4: of acts that don't compete each other against each other,

1841
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 4: And America did that for me. Though I don't. I

1842
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 4: don't give a damn until they show me the player voting.

1843
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 4: I don't believe any of it. I'm a conspiracy theorist

1844
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 4: on this one thing.

1845
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 5: It makes sense to me.

1846
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 3: No, no, I figure spot on.

1847
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 2: But like, forget to list for a second, It's true,

1848
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 2: he's under appreciated. Patrick Mahomes is underappreciating other how cony,

1849
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 2: how is that possible he is? It's a disgrace.

1850
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 4: I think right now it's pretty clear that Patrick Mahomes

1851
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 4: is on the path too. I'm not gonna say today

1852
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 4: he is, but it's on the path to becoming the

1853
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,480
Speaker 4: best quarterback, the greatest quarterback in NFL history.

1854
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 5: Yes, he has an argument already.

1855
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 4: You're not wrong. I would I would agree that. I

1856
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 4: would say he's in the discussion already. I think it's

1857
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 4: gonna be clear cut in the next few years that

1858
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 4: that's exactly who he is. And to think that we

1859
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 4: are sitting here in an era where we are watching

1860
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 4: possibly the best that's ever done it, and you're gonna

1861
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 4: tell me that like players are looking around and not.

1862
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't understand that. I just don't understand it because

1863
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 4: it's this is not a system. I understand why we

1864
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 4: want to rock pretty doubters. I understand at least where

1865
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 4: they're coming from. I understand where Cowboys doubters at least

1866
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 4: are coming from I do not understand how anybody can

1867
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 4: look at Patrick Mahomes and not see that he is

1868
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 4: basic superman. He is all of the He's the whole

1869
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 4: Marvel Universe in one because without him, the Chiefs are

1870
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 4: literally nothing I do.

1871
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 3: That's well said.

1872
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 5: I mean there's no I mean if you he could

1873
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 5: retire right now after seven years, and he'd be a

1874
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 5: first ballot Hall of Famer without question, nobody would think

1875
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 5: twice about it.

1876
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I retire today.

1877
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 4: The party I would throw if Patrick Mahomes announced today

1878
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 4: he's retiring, I would like I'd empty the bank account

1879
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 4: there would be the Mother of Connecticut would never be

1880
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 4: the same because I'd actually have a hope at that point,

1881
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 4: Like there is some level of I understand how Jets Bills,

1882
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 4: how are they all of the Dolphins?

1883
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 5: The Dolphins years?

1884
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand how they all felt, because

1885
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 4: you just want to curl in a ball and give

1886
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 4: up on football every single year when you're taking on

1887
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 4: Tom Brady in his prime. That's how I feel about

1888
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 4: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes together. So the two of

1889
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 4: them could do me a favor and decide they don't

1890
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 4: love the game and retire today. It would change my

1891
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:53,799
Speaker 4: entire life.

1892
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he like I listen obviously, Brady Longevity

1893
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: enough said, but I think Mahomes is better.

1894
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is like.

1895
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: Taking Hill away from him and seeing what he's done

1896
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 2: the last two years. The only thing he hasn't been

1897
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 2: able to overcome, and he overcame it up to the

1898
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl was going into a season with no tackles.

1899
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and by the time they got to the Super

1900
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 5: Bowl against Tampa Bay, he was on like his fourth

1901
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 5: and fifth offensive tackles or whatever it was. I mean,

1902
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 5: nobody had a hope at that point. It didn't matter

1903
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 5: who you were.

1904
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 2: But he still got to the Super Bowl. Correctated to

1905
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl with deep roster tackles both sides.

1906
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 5: You know how things get lost by the way, so

1907
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 5: you realize he could have gone to another Super Bowl.

1908
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 5: I believe his first season when they played at the

1909
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 5: New England Patriots. This is the other Patriots beat the

1910
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 5: Rams in the Super Bowl and it was a low

1911
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 5: scoring and time hit Gronk and they had the one

1912
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 5: touchdown at the very end. But if you remember the

1913
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 5: defensive end for the Chie he's lined up off sides

1914
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 5: and Tom Brady throw an interception.

1915
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1916
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, he would have gone to another super Bowl and

1917
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 5: it's possible that Chiefs would have beaten the Rams. I

1918
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 5: mean he would have had another super Bowl under his

1919
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 5: belt there, Yeah, I mean it's incredible.

1920
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, his run is Can we can we also talk

1921
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 2: about how he is as a guy?

1922
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we always.

1923
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 2: Listen, you know, we're the first as a society to

1924
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 2: rip people for being creeps and crumbs and the whole thing.

1925
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 2: And I get it, there aren't. He's a good He's

1926
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 2: a good dude. Like listen, I don't care what anybody says.

1927
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: I talked to all that those two Andy Reid's bags,

1928
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: to all those guys. They just talk about how grounded

1929
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: he is, how special he is as a leader and

1930
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 2: a teammate and all those other intangibles that we talk

1931
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: about with football.

1932
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 3: He's the most skilled, but he does all the other

1933
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 3: stuff and and and it's.

1934
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 2: Amazing, right, all these quarterback contracts come out and all

1935
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: these kids that are getting paid that had no business

1936
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 2: paid the highest paid quarterback?

1937
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 3: Right, do you hear a peep out of Mahomes?

1938
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 7: No?

1939
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 5: He basically said, hell, he get it. Worked out when

1940
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 5: he gets worked out. You know, he's not even worried

1941
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 5: about it.

1942
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1943
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,839
Speaker 5: She was asked specifically, do you feel like you're underpaid?

1944
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 5: And he said no, Like.

1945
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 2: Can we take a moment just to celebrate somebody that special,

1946
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:41,839
Speaker 2: that has that that's putting just and righteousness out. I'm sorry,

1947
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 2: I like, like I have as a father of two

1948
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: boys who play football.

1949
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 3: You how many times I talk about Patrick Mahomes.

1950
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how you act, That's how you purport

1951
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 2: yourself in public.

1952
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 5: Now, if this is truly a player poll, maybe it's

1953
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 5: one of those with the players just that fatigue, and

1954
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 5: I'm tired of saying, you know, Patrick Mahomes, he's kicking

1955
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 5: my ass every single year. I want to knock him

1956
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 5: down a pick or two for whatever it means. You know,

1957
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 5: I'm more in line with Fitz is that a lot

1958
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 5: of this stuff is manufactured by whoever the powers that

1959
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 5: be might be. But I can also see if this

1960
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 5: truly is indeed a player dominated pole, I can see

1961
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 5: where the players would say, yeah, I'm tired of Pat,

1962
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 5: I'll put somebody else up there.

1963
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 2: I know, I just wanted to be honest with the pulse.

1964
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 2: You know, the polls, the poll, But I really just

1965
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 2: wanted to to Lord Mahomes for being who he is.

1966
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 3: I just I love that dude, man, I do.

1967
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 2: I just respect him to no end as not only

1968
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:51,719
Speaker 2: greatness of the position, the most important position in all sports,

1969
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: the whole thing. But he's just he's the perfect athlete.

1970
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:01,520
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's funny, it's amazing. But Lebron's

1971
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 2: that way too. I don't care where you say you

1972
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 2: like him, don't like him, or whatever. You know, you

1973
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: want to talk about doing the right thing. I mean,

1974
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: Lebron does the right thing all the time. Yeah, he

1975
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 2: does great dad the whole thing.

1976
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 3: And I don't believe that.

1977
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:20,719
Speaker 2: Listen, it's modern day and we go by social media,

1978
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: so this is how it's. You know, he's out there

1979
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: on social media and this is what he does. I

1980
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 2: don't it's not an act. I believe in the guy.

1981
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 2: I hit the guy, and I'm an MJ guy, right,

1982
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 2: you know that. But I'm sorry when it comes to

1983
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 2: doing things the right way, that Lebron's is the top.

1984
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 5: I mean, even what I do think there are some

1985
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 5: things that he does are a little self serving, but

1986
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,560
Speaker 5: I'm willing to overlook all that stuff for all the

1987
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 5: other stuff, you know benefits.

1988
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you can be a little self serving

1989
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 4: when you're also providing education the kids all over, and

1990
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 4: you're helping the world be a better place, and you're

1991
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 4: also creating business opportunities for young entrepreneurs. Like there there's

1992
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 4: a little level of it, Like we may not like

1993
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 4: that he sits and I'm gonna take my talents to Miami,

1994
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 4: But does that outweigh the good that he's done in

1995
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 4: communities he's been in over the years. God, No, Like,

1996
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 4: so's you're one thousand percent right about that?

1997
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I that's really important to me.

1998
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 2: So at Mahomes, Mahomes is the best because he's not

1999
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 2: even you know, you could say Lebron's polished and the

2000
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 2: whole thing. Mahomes still has that kind of all shucks

2001
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 2: thing about it.

2002
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 5: I kind of like the dorky like thing going, which

2003
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 5: is fine and it works.

2004
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 4: You know.

2005
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 5: I don't think he's even on social media. If anything,

2006
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 5: it was he was his wife and his brother back

2007
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 5: in the day that he was annoyed, but them doing

2008
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 5: TikTok videos and all that stuff, Like he shines away

2009
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 5: from all of that. He just wants to play. I

2010
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 5: respect the hot ball for that bad Yeah he is.

2011
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 3: He's he's the best.

2012
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 2: Uh, just to round up the top ten of that list,

2013
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,759
Speaker 2: so you know, Miles Garrett comes in at number five,

2014
01:39:55,439 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 2: Chris Jones comes in at number six, Trent Williams at

2015
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 2: number seven, t J Watt at eight, Travis Kelcey nine,

2016
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 2: and Max Crosby comes in at ten.

2017
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 3: Man, man, I love Crosby.

2018
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:19,799
Speaker 4: That's gonna be that's gonna be fuel in his belly.

2019
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 4: I'll take it all day long.

2020
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the He's another one. I love that dude.

2021
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: That dude's about achievement. He's, uh, you have to sitway

2022
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 2: a bunch of times. Yeah.

2023
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 4: I mean Max and I are buddies and and so

2024
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 4: I you know, humble brack. But I will say this,

2025
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 4: like I remember talking to him when we were getting tattoos.

2026
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 4: I remember talking to him. He had just signed his

2027
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 4: mega deal. He went into work the next day at

2028
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 4: five in the morning because that's what his routine is,

2029
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 4: and he's like, man, I haven't done anything yet. I

2030
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 4: just got paid, that's all. And there's there's a there's

2031
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 4: just a level of every time I talk to him,

2032
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 4: every time I catch up with him. He's just he's

2033
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 4: the sort of guy that works his tail off but

2034
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 4: then also makes you want to work harder in the process.

2035
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 4: To talk some five minutes with Max and you realize

2036
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 4: that you've got more in your tank and you should

2037
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 4: spend more of your energy bettering yourself. Like that's just

2038
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 4: so rare to see. That's just his energy.

2039
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 5: But he's an example of a guy that had to

2040
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 5: fight for everything that he got. You know, low round

2041
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 5: draft pick, went to a small school, didn't get recruited. Yeah,

2042
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 5: one of those classic stories.

2043
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great story, great story. All right, guys, are

2044
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Speaker 2: you working on your five?

2045
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 5: I got my five?

2046
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 7: Five?

2047
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 4: I'm ready?

2048
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Speaker 2: I asked you guys to do a little have some

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Speaker 2: fun here. We football's back and we've been been asking

2078
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 2: to have a bunch of questions to mess around with

2079
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:29,799
Speaker 2: little exercises. This is offense, and so I will allow

2080
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 2: you to construct, to construct your best five quarterback, two receivers,

2081
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:46,799
Speaker 2: tight end, and running back. All right, I'll start position

2082
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 2: by position, FITZI, who's your quarterback?

2083
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 4: So the quarterback was actually the toughest of all of them,

2084
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 4: but I'm going to go back to so what I

2085
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 4: want a quarterback. I want somebody that I know can

2086
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 4: make every throw. I want somebody I know that can

2087
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 4: make every throw off schedule. I want somebody I know

2088
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 4: that has ice in their veins that can save me

2089
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 4: if everything's done. And I want somebody in the modern

2090
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 4: NFL that's mobile enough to do some damage. So I

2091
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 4: am going with John Elway.

2092
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 3: John Elway, John Away quarterback.

2093
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 4: All Right, I can break my heart too many times.

2094
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 4: I want somebody. Two minutes left in the game, it

2095
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 4: was between Montana and Alway for me, and I went

2096
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 4: Olway because I want the mobility that Lway can bring

2097
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 4: me also running around to let some of my guys

2098
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 4: get wide open.

2099
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 2: So you get the clutch gene you got. He was strung,

2100
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 2: he had a big arm, and he was mobile. You know,

2101
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 2: it's interesting because he was I mean, and he was

2102
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 2: thick too, Like he was tough, yep, tough to bring down,

2103
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 2: and he had a rocket of an arm. As great

2104
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 2: an athlete was he was a great thrower too. So

2105
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 2: that's a great choice, all right, figure, who's your quarterback?

2106
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 5: So I seriously considered Joe Montana as well, but for

2107
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 5: all of the reasons that Fits gave in his decision

2108
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 5: to take John Elway. Is why I selected the guy

2109
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 5: that I selected, someone who can make every single throw

2110
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 5: in the pocket, out of the pocket, can make plays

2111
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 5: on the run with his legs. I'm deciding to go

2112
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 5: with the modern pick, and I'm going with Patrick Mahomes.

2113
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have went Mahomes too, Okay, Yeah, I

2114
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 2: love Elway too.

2115
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 5: I like you too, and would would have been third,

2116
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 5: to be honest, probably behind Montana for me, So I.

2117
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 2: Would have went I would have met Mahomes. I still think,

2118
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 2: you know, Brady Uh Marino.

2119
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 5: Marino was up there in my mind choices. Marina was

2120
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 5: just more of a statue, uh working against him a

2121
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 5: little bit for me, he was.

2122
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2123
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 2: No, And listen, that's why Elway, of all the Yesterday quarterbacks. Yeah,

2124
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 2: Elway probably is the best choice for.

2125
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 5: The for today's game. I would agree with that. Yeah,

2126
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 5: he could move, I mean strol and he had the

2127
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 5: big arm.

2128
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 2: So se I like the fact that you guys went

2129
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 2: and that way both directions because I like both those picks.

2130
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 2: All right, I'll go with the least sexy tight end

2131
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 2: FITSI mmmm.

2132
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 4: So, you guys, I'll probably get killed for this for

2133
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 4: recency bias, But this was a really tough one for me.

2134
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go Kelsey. I'm just like, I want

2135
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 4: somebody that can beat you a million different ways. I'm

2136
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 4: gonna go Kelsey. It was between Gronk and Kelsey. And

2137
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 4: maybe I'm too in my fields with Kelsey right now

2138
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:29,719
Speaker 4: and how good he is, but I'll go Kelsey.

2139
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 3: All right, Kelsey, how about you?

2140
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,679
Speaker 5: Fig So this was the toughest one for me because

2141
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 5: I wanted a guy that I know can make plays,

2142
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 5: who's also clutch but could also block a little bit,

2143
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 5: and that eliminates a few guys like I had Antonio

2144
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 5: Gates on the list, but he was more of a

2145
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 5: receivering type, you know. So I liked Kelsey, but I

2146
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Speaker 5: actually ended up going with Gronk. Gronk played biggest in

2147
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 5: the biggest games and was an underrated blocker, probably one

2148
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 5: of the best blocking tight ends who was also a

2149
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,560
Speaker 5: dynamic receiver whoever played the BASSI.

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01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:05,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have went Gronk too. Listened, Kelsey. Nobody

2151
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 2: could kill you Fitzy for going Kelsey. Right, yeah, you

2152
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 2: know means great.

2153
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think he's a great player. But

2154
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 4: we do all think of Gronk and it was it

2155
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,280
Speaker 4: was a tough one for me. But yeah, I'll stand

2156
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 4: on my Kelsey.

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01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 2: Pick no, no, listen, it's good, it's good, all right, Uh,

2158
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 2: give me one of your receivers.

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01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this, this is this was one of

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01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 4: This was the easiest. The two receivers were the first

2161
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 4: two things I had said.

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01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 3: Give Rice, give you one.

2163
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 4: I'ly give you one. I'll give you Jerry Rice. Jerry

2164
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 4: Rice one hundred percent. Like there was just that wasn't

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Speaker 4: even a conversation. Like when you said pick two receivers,

2166
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, yep, got Rice. There we go. So yeah,

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01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 4: I'll start with Jerry Rice.

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Speaker 3: Do you have Rice on yours?

2169
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 5: But also what other options? Because I knew there was

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01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 5: a possibility that he would not be available, so.

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01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 4: Well, we were not snake drafting him.

2173
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 5: We were not, but you know, and I guess we

2174
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 5: could double up if we wanted to. But for the

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01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 5: sake of being a little bit different, I had I

2176
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 5: would have potentially had right, and I definitely would have

2177
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Speaker 5: had Randy Moss.

2178
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 4: Now let's say you I went Rice and Moss.

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01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 3: With you went Rice and Moss.

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01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 2: All right, So let's says so you you get Rice,

2181
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 2: Fitzy get Rice, figure gets Moss, right, all right, Now

2182
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,440
Speaker 2: you got to come up with your second receivers.

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01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, i'd look, I'm going to be a complete

2184
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 4: homer and my favorite receiver in my life is Tim Brown.

2185
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 4: So I'm taking Tim Brown. And I don't really give

2186
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 4: a damn what anybody thinks about that.

2187
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 5: You know, I like you, I love that, I respect it.

2188
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 4: I'm recreating the eraror that I loved of Raiders football.

2189
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 4: So that's that's happening, right.

2190
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 5: So, and then the way that I think of it

2191
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 5: as far as like building a team. So I got

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01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 5: a guy that Moss that can hit you deep. Rice

2193
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 5: would have been my guy that can hit you short

2194
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 5: and then take it take it to the house. So

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01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 5: the other option, if I didn't have Rice, would have

2196
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 5: been Larry Fitzgerald so interesting.

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01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 3: Would you take Hill?

2198
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 5: Because I love him, I can't take everybody, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying Hill and Moss, because well, Moss could

2200
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 2: go deep. Moss also had great size he.

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Speaker 5: Did, which is what kind of the advantage he has

2202
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 5: over Tyreek for me?

2203
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 2: And you could go short with Tyreek and along with Tyreek, right,

2204
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:11,799
Speaker 2: real short.

2205
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 3: Well, I had to go medium with Moss.

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01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 5: That was the Now. The drawback on Moss, especially early

2207
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 5: in his career in Minnesota, was that all he ever

2208
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 5: did was run out field. He didn't run short. When

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01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:25,600
Speaker 5: he got to New England, I encourage people to go

2210
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 5: back and watch he ran a much more sophisticated routrey

2211
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 5: in New England. Yes, he had d balls, for sure.

2212
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 5: He wouldn't go over the middle. He would catch slants

2213
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 5: and go take it to the house. He wasn't just

2214
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 5: a one trick pony.

2215
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 4: I was just happy he actually ran routes when he

2216
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 4: got to New England. The year he mailed in and look,

2217
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything I haven't said to Randy Moss,

2218
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 4: but like, I don't know, like I got for me

2219
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 4: for my money, I know you're you're arguably the best

2220
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 4: that's ever done it, and you may arguably be the

2221
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 4: best that ever does it. But I don't like my

2222
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 4: Hall of famers mailing in the whole season just because

2223
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 4: they didn't like their situation.

2224
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 5: And the cold part about it is he mailed in

2225
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 5: that season and still came just shy if a thousand

2226
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 5: yards receiving. And that's the year he wasn't even trying,

2227
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 5: didn't even ut.

2228
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 4: He was just standing there at the snap and be like, no,

2229
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this, isn't And he was right, his

2230
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 4: logic was right, But I don't know, like.

2231
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 5: Well, it's just not you know, demand to trade if

2232
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 5: you're going to do that. We've we've all of us

2233
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 5: have had these sorts of discussions about mosson his tenure

2234
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 5: in Oakland. Specifically, we don't have to rehash that part,

2235
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 5: but just the talent the player, especially when he was engaged.

2236
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I couldn't you couldn't find a more unstoppable

2237
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 5: receiver than Randy Moss.

2238
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh, Fitzgerald definitely an underrated.

2239
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 5: He's an all time great. And I don't know if

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01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 5: it's because he played in Arizona or what.

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01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean.

2242
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 2: I didn't have it never had the quarterback to go

2243
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 2: with him, Warner.

2244
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 5: For a while he had Warner on the back end.

2245
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 5: But I mean a lot of it. You know, Matt

2246
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 5: Lioner in and out of the lineup, a bunch of

2247
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 5: other cats on the back end of his career.

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01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 3: Imagine if he's got a my homes.

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01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 5: Right right and still one of the top, you know,

2250
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 5: three leading receivers in every category. What was I tell you?

2251
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He was amazingly special. All right, So

2252
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,520
Speaker 2: give me your running back, FITZI.

2253
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 4: Barry Sanders. I mean, like, so now I've given you

2254
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 4: this offense that is just going to be able to

2255
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 4: run around. You're not going to be able to tackle anybody,

2256
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna win a bunch of football games to that.

2257
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 4: Like I got l Way handing off to Barry Sanders.

2258
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 4: And at the same time, if he doesn't like what

2259
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 4: he's got there, he runs around, he finds Kelsey. If

2260
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 4: he doesn't like what he's got there, he's got two

2261
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 4: receivers that can get open anywhere. I know, I don't

2262
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:34,959
Speaker 4: have a lot of depth in this, but I'll take Jerry.

2263
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 4: I've got early Jerry Rice where he's still ran deep.

2264
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 4: That's that's the only constantly surprise I can get myself.

2265
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's a good squad. Yeah, so it's

2266
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 3: arguing against that's a good squad. Figure who you got.

2267
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 5: I'm sticking with my versatility, So I want it Gronk

2268
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 5: because he's a great receiver and a great blocker. I

2269
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 5: wanted someone who, if I needed him to, I probably

2270
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 5: wouldn't block a little bit, catch the ball out of

2271
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:58,759
Speaker 5: the back foot a little bit, and be a dynamic runner.

2272
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 5: And I picked Marcus Allen. Marc is Alan Wow made

2273
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl as a fullback when he was feuding

2274
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 5: with Al Davis, and Al took Bo Jackson that you'll

2275
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 5: move the full back, all right, I'll blow some cats

2276
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,560
Speaker 5: up in the hole, catch some balls out of the backfield,

2277
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,680
Speaker 5: and ball out at full back two. One of the

2278
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,759
Speaker 5: great athletes to ever play.

2279
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 2: He had one of the most amazing plays I'll ever

2280
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 2: oh ever, think it's indelible in my mind.

2281
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 5: The epic cutback against Washington in the Super Bowl.

2282
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 2: Yes, right, I remember being a kid and I was

2283
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:37,560
Speaker 2: like I just I was a closic quasi. Everyone to

2284
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 2: call it second team sympathizer.

2285
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 5: Sure. I think a lot of people as kids are

2286
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 5: I was like a Raiders thip.

2287
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 3: I like the Raiders as a kid to his day.

2288
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 2: When you guys talk like I root for the Raiders

2289
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 2: now because of you, you guys like, I'd like to

2290
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 2: have you guys be happy.

2291
01:52:58,320 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 5: And our guy a big link of course.

2292
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I was about to bring that up too,

2293
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: like and having link and the whole thing, like, yeah,

2294
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 2: so you know, I you know, the Raiders were always cool.

2295
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 2: And we were kids, my cousin Joey and I, we

2296
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 2: were always we always had that Raider you know.

2297
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 3: They were because you were a kid, you always.

2298
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: Have an AFC team that you kind of like and

2299
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 2: root for, right, and that was always the Raiders.

2300
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 4: That was I think that was awesome, Like growing up

2301
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 4: in that era. The Bears were just such a phenomenon

2302
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 4: with Jim McMahon and Walter Payton and that like eighty

2303
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 4: five Bears, like I found myself. I always had a

2304
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 4: soft spot for the Bears when I was a kid.

2305
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it was a little bit easier growing

2306
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 5: up in Los Angeles. I had both the Rams and

2307
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 5: the Raiders here. The Raiders were decent. The Rams were

2308
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 5: balling early on, especially that was in the heyday of

2309
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 5: Eric Dickerson.

2310
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 2: So, oh, man, Eric Dickerson, who is the quarterback you had?

2311
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 3: Uh? Who was his quarterback back? Then?

2312
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 5: Well he was forgettably tell you about the the likes

2313
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 5: of guys like Dieter Brock and you know, people like

2314
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 5: people like that. You know, it wasn't that. It wasn't

2315
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 5: the heyday have great quarterback play for the Rams. Out

2316
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 5: of his days was before Hayden, was before he got there.

2317
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 5: Jim ever, and I think it was towards the back

2318
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 5: end with him as well. But a lot of the

2319
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 5: quarterbacks is really the big reason why he didn't play

2320
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 5: with Jim Everett. But it was really road on the

2321
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 5: back of avers a whole lot. I think Fara Gama

2322
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 5: was in there.

2323
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, man, that's nuts, Like you think about that.

2324
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 2: This is this is so much fun going down like

2325
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 2: talking to all this football.

2326
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 3: Uh. We got to take quick time out.

2327
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 2: But you know, in the honor of football being back,

2328
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to make our whole show.

2329
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

2330
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 2: And I got another couple of questions to hit you

2331
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: guys with. But you guys did a great job on

2332
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 2: the five man and loved it, absolutely loved it. Where

2333
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 2: the fellas hanging out on a Saturday A Fox Sports Saturday,

2334
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 2: August the third. We're in August, baby, second half of

2335
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 2: the year has but gone.

2336
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Gotta love it. Fox Sports Radio.

2337
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 2: Fellas Live from the tire Rack dot Com studios. The one, uh,

2338
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 2: the next one is gonna be the best. I want uh.

2339
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 2: I want three of them. Actually, I want two of them.

2340
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 2: You can't have Belichick or Andy Reid. I want man

2341
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 2: Or or Walsh. I gotta take him off of it too.

2342
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 2: The two best, two best coaches that you like, and

2343
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 2: the two dumbest. So I want the best and worst,

2344
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 2: all right, but you can't have you know, you can't

2345
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 2: have Read Belichick Walsh. Now I'm gonna take them off

2346
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 2: the table parcels. So I got to do it with

2347
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 2: kind of a bust out because it's too obvious, and

2348
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 2: they give me the worst coaches because it struck me.

2349
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 3: I was having this conversation.

2350
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 2: We're looking at, you know, these teams, and we were

2351
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: talking about like my town, about Sirianni and whether or

2352
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 2: not he is just going to make it right, whether

2353
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 2: or this is it like this is either he achieves

2354
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 2: and they make a run the playoffs, or he's gone.

2355
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 3: And Bill Belichick's here. That's what it feels like.

2356
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: And so we were talking about these coaches and how

2357
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 2: these good coaches makes a difference, Like is there any

2358
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 2: doubt in your mind that Harball will succeed with the Chargers? Now,

2359
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 2: I do believe that Herbert's going to be there. I

2360
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 2: don't understand this talk about Herbert not being there. I

2361
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 2: still think, uh that Herbert will be there. But there

2362
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 2: is stupid.

2363
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 4: If Herbert wasn't going to be there, then why the

2364
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 4: hell didn't need draft JJ For anybody that says Herbert

2365
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 4: is gone that if that was the approach, they could

2366
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 4: have gotten a king's Ransom form right now and they

2367
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 4: could have JJ on a rookie deal.

2368
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 3: So Besidebert's ridiculous.

2369
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 4: This is just this is just people getting too smart

2370
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 4: and too cute when they're watching the football situations going on,

2371
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 4: like there is actual I am good at this in

2372
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 4: life to a fault, But sometimes you have to take

2373
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 4: all of your emotion out and simply use logic. Have

2374
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 4: no heart to it, no opinion to it, just look

2375
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 4: at it and say, how do the brick stack up?

2376
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 4: And the brick stack up? Really easy for the Chargers

2377
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 4: if they were going to move on from Justin Herbert.

2378
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 4: Imagine the bounty of picks that they would have gotten,

2379
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 4: players that they would have gotten, which would have accelerated

2380
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 4: their entire process. They could have moved up in the

2381
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 4: draft if they wanted to with Justin Herbert and gotten

2382
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 4: whatever quarterback they wanted. So this opinion is just filling

2383
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 4: a twenty four hour news cycle. Justin Herbert's not going anywhere.

2384
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. I thought it was absurd. There's no

2385
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 2: way in the world. And yeah, I get Harball likes

2386
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 2: to run the ball. He's also likes quarterbacks. It's one

2387
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 2: of the other reasons why he went to the Chargers,

2388
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:26,160
Speaker 2: why the Chargers were a draw. The fact is, I

2389
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 2: don't care what you think, oh Jim Harball does. He

2390
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 2: also knows the NFL, and the NFL is different than

2391
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 2: college and you can't overpower teams like like you can,

2392
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:39,879
Speaker 2: and Kyle's in the NFL.

2393
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 4: There's also like, what was the interview, like you know,

2394
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 4: put yourself. I love the movie Elf, and I love

2395
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 4: the scene in the movie Elf where they're trying to

2396
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 4: figure out their new book and the two riders sitting

2397
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 4: there and say, you know what we need to do.

2398
01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 4: We need to call somebody else right, And it's always

2399
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 4: laugh at that because it's the way modern society goes.

2400
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 4: I cannot imagine Harball sitting in the interview for the

2401
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 4: Chargers job and saying, all right, step number one, let's

2402
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 4: get rid of Justin Herbert and then start a full rebuild.

2403
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 3: Like there's no way.

2404
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 4: There's just no way that's happening.

2405
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's stupid.

2406
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 2: Anyway, we were having these conversations about is there any

2407
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 2: doubt in your mind that Harball wins?

2408
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 4: No, I don't think he wins this year, but I

2409
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:19,480
Speaker 4: think long.

2410
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 3: Term, well, yeah, I'm talking about real long term.

2411
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be great. I think they're gonna

2412
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 4: be great for a long time.

2413
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 2: And the dispatterity between true competency from a coaching standpoint

2414
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 2: and incompetent it's amazing the league because you have this

2415
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 2: elite level and there is a true bottom level where

2416
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 2: you can't get out of your own way.

2417
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've got an easy pick for the worst coach

2418
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my life, but I'll save it

2419
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 4: for you. That's a tease right there. I get an

2420
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 4: easy pick for the worst coach, but you're right, like

2421
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 4: it is funny how we forget coach coordinator system and

2422
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 4: match up with the players, Like these are the basics

2423
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 4: that we should be thinking about, and we forget about

2424
02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 4: it every year when we start trying to figure out

2425
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 4: who's gonna be good and who's going to be bad.

2426
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 5: I know, you see it fake, No, it's easy. Like

2427
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 5: you know, the worst ones are pretty easy to pick

2428
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:17,840
Speaker 5: out for me too. The good ones are hard that

2429
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 5: the worst ones are at the forefront of your mind,

2430
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 5: so it is very easy to see.

2431
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 2: It's interesting because you can't like the good ones are

2432
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 2: the great ones and that's it, you know.

2433
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you can't have this guy.

2434
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,600
Speaker 2: Really, there's like five guys, you know in the whole league,

2435
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:40,480
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Speaker 2: just joined us to be heavy Dosal football and then

2445
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:27,960
Speaker 2: join it. We talked about the preseason opener Hall of

2446
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:32,879
Speaker 2: Fame game last Thursday, a couple of nights ago from Canton,

2447
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 2: and we were gotten subject the Hall of Fame and

2448
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 2: how much fun the Hall of Fame is, and then

2449
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame game, and you know, we fifteen

2450
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 2: nine wax poetically about the game.

2451
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 3: Figuie mocked us, knocking strong. Well, you guys used always

2452
02:01:58,600 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 3: get me.

2453
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 2: I would hit you with this every year, right, and

2454
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 2: now I got Now I finally got somebody agrees with me.

2455
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:05,120
Speaker 5: You got some sport.

2456
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 4: I don't blame you at all, like we're gonna keep

2457
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 4: bringing this up because you're right. I'm just saying it's

2458
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 4: hard work being right and then we stand on the

2459
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 4: right side of history.

2460
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 5: So that's all. I would just say that my enthusiasm

2461
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:21,480
Speaker 5: was a little more temperate than the two of you.

2462
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:28,360
Speaker 2: Put it that way. Oh, it was great having it back. Man, Hi,

2463
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm Joe, He's Troy. I love it, man, I do.

2464
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 2: I there's something about it.

2465
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 3: I love it.

2466
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 2: I just we've we've both talked, so we've been on

2467
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 2: this kick all day long today talking about it. I

2468
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:48,680
Speaker 2: have some more questions. When we last week left, I

2469
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 2: was talking about the coaches. So I have to do

2470
02:02:51,960 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 2: this because they're sore. They're so good, like Belichick read

2471
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:08,680
Speaker 2: Walsh Parcels. I gotta believe that's the mount rushmore. So

2472
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm taking them off the list. Give me two that

2473
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 2: are great and two that are just embarrassingly bad coaches.

2474
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 2: Because you see the disparity in the league. Man, that's

2475
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 2: the one constant is that there are guys that know

2476
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 2: how to do it and guys that don't. So I'll

2477
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 2: start with you, FITZI give me that are give me

2478
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 2: the two bad ones.

2479
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 4: Two good ones. Okay, this one was a little tougher

2480
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 4: good ones. I'm gonna go back. I think we're all

2481
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:48,000
Speaker 4: influenced by the football we grew up watching. So when

2482
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 4: I go with two of the greats, I also like

2483
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 4: I thought Shula was a little bit of a cliche answer,

2484
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 4: so I kept Shoola off the list. My my two

2485
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 4: that stand out. I'm gonna go Marv Levy, who was

2486
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 4: I think invator before offenses looked the way they do

2487
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 4: now and four straight Super Bowls. I don't care if

2488
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 4: we're talking about four straight Super Bowl losses four straight

2489
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 4: Super bowls is something that deserves way more credit than

2490
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 4: it ever gets. So to me, Marv lev stands out

2491
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 4: on that because yeah, and he's just he did it different.

2492
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 3: I mean, rather than school.

2493
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Like I think if Marv Levy existed in

2494
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 4: this current offense, although you know, you could argue that

2495
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:26,400
Speaker 4: none of this would even exist where it not for

2496
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 4: his already influence, but if he existed in this world,

2497
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:32,880
Speaker 4: I think he'd be much much better appreciated. And then

2498
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 4: my other one, I'll go with Bill Kauer. I think consistency,

2499
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 4: uh you know, toughness, you think about everything, but the

2500
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 4: ability to mold a team into the vision of exactly

2501
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 4: who he is. I think there's something really beautiful about that.

2502
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:48,000
Speaker 4: So I'm going with two old guys from my list.

2503
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 5: I like it fig So someone else I don't think

2504
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 5: I've mentioned who I also feel like I can't pick

2505
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 5: is Vince Lombardi uh so towards the top, but I

2506
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 5: feel like he's like an untouched so I'll leave him alone.

2507
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 5: So one that I'm gonna mention is Tony Dungee took

2508
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 5: the Buccaneers, who are a laughing stock and turned them

2509
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 5: into a legitimate franchise contender. For for many years, they

2510
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 5: just couldn't get the offense fixed. Finally went to a

2511
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 5: place in Indianapolis where he already had an offense and

2512
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 5: he had to rebuild the defense, and he certainly did that.

2513
02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:23,880
Speaker 5: They had their shortcomings at times in the postseason. One

2514
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,320
Speaker 5: one super Bowl, lost another and if you know, I

2515
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 5: guess he didn't wasn't technically at the helm for the

2516
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 5: other loss. That was Jim Caldwell. But we know that

2517
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 5: was Tony Dungee's team. But a great man of character

2518
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 5: and I think a great football coach too. And look,

2519
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 5: he has his own coaching tree of guys for him.

2520
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 5: Morris getting his second crack added Mike Tomlin as a

2521
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 5: Dungee guy. So all the respect and love in the

2522
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 5: world for Tony Dungee. I think his analysis, his work

2523
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 5: as an analyst leads much to be desired. But as

2524
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 5: a head coach, I think he's the I think he's

2525
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:53,720
Speaker 5: one of the underrated greats in recent member.

2526
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 4: I love that great. The only reason I hesitated for

2527
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 4: a second was because you know, Gruden came in took

2528
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,000
Speaker 4: that team to a super Bowl. That's the only reason

2529
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 4: I hesitated on Dungee, but he was on my list

2530
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 4: for sure.

2531
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 3: Who who is your Who's your other one? Dungee?

2532
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:12,280
Speaker 5: And so I'm probably gonna get some pushback for this

2533
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:14,760
Speaker 5: because he never won a Super Bowl, never played, never

2534
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 5: coached in the Super Bowl, but he turned around places

2535
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 5: wherever he went, always had success and was well respected.

2536
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 5: I really liked Marty Schottenheimer, and I thought he was

2537
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 5: a great coach who never really, you know, got over

2538
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 5: the hump for any number of reasons. I thought he

2539
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 5: got a raw deal at the end of his Chargers tenure,

2540
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 5: and I think if he would have stayed there, they

2541
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 5: possibly could have ended up winning a championship. But turned

2542
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,560
Speaker 5: around Cleveland, turned around Kansas City, was knocking on the

2543
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 5: door in every place that he went, and for whatever reason,

2544
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:41,840
Speaker 5: it never worked out for him. But I thought he

2545
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 5: was a great head coach, and even though he never

2546
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 5: made it to a Super Bowl, I think he's worthy

2547
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 5: of at least Hall of Fame consideration, considering the amount

2548
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:52,200
Speaker 5: of wins and the and the impact that I.

2549
02:06:52,240 --> 02:06:57,200
Speaker 2: Agree with you, it's a shame because he never gets

2550
02:06:57,400 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 2: any credit, none at all, And in fact, they owe ways.

2551
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 2: They always take shots at him because you know he

2552
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 2: never won a super Bowl and it's a Shottenheimer and

2553
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 2: you're you're right.

2554
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, for me, it's it was really

2555
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:16,640
Speaker 5: ever like, oh, he made a coaching blunder and that's

2556
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 5: what cost him.

2557
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 4: Now you know, yeah, I look, we both knew this

2558
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 4: as fans of an opposing team. Shottenheimer is a guy

2559
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 4: that you sat there and thought, Man, that team's gonna

2560
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 4: be good. They're just they're they're gonna be well coached,

2561
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 4: They're not gonna make stupid mistakes. They're gonna beat you

2562
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 4: like he there is. I think you're right on Schottenheimer.

2563
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 4: I didn't even think of him in the minute you

2564
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 4: said it. I was like, oh, that's a smart choice.

2565
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:44,960
Speaker 2: All right, give me, uh the two boobes, the two

2566
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:46,480
Speaker 2: coach boobs.

2567
02:07:47,120 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 4: I don't think I have to say much about Nathaniel

2568
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:52,600
Speaker 4: Hackett why he belongs on that list. So I'll start

2569
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:55,600
Speaker 4: there recent But then that's that's all I need to

2570
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 4: say about that, because I will then plant my flag

2571
02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:01,080
Speaker 4: on the If you haven't changed a single word in

2572
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 4: your playbook, when you're going into the Super Bowl and

2573
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 4: you're facing your former boss who coached the team, you're

2574
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 4: gonna get your ass kicked. And that's exactly what Bill

2575
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 4: Callahan did. You know. Bill Callahan went into a Super

2576
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:14,120
Speaker 4: Bowl and John Lynch said later that not only did

2577
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:16,760
Speaker 4: they know every single call as it was coming out,

2578
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 4: they knew every single audible because the Raiders hadn't changed

2579
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 4: a single piece of their verbiage coming into the game.

2580
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:26,640
Speaker 4: So John Lynchen and Gannon and both acknowledged that every

2581
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:28,720
Speaker 4: time they would try and shift, Lynch would just call

2582
02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 4: out exactly what the play was. How stupid do you

2583
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 4: have to be as a head coach to never sit

2584
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 4: there and think, you know what, Gruden's had a little

2585
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:38,080
Speaker 4: bit of time to get ready for this thing. It's

2586
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:42,080
Speaker 4: his playbook. Maybe we should change some things. The level

2587
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 4: of ignorance that took from Bill Callahan is unforgivable. He

2588
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 4: got your team to a Super Bowl because they were

2589
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:47,880
Speaker 4: too talented for you to screw it up, but you

2590
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 4: did screw it up when they needed you. That makes

2591
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:51,000
Speaker 4: you one of the worst coaches in history.

2592
02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that was that was just abysmal. I

2593
02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:57,400
Speaker 3: mean link how about a figure.

2594
02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:59,000
Speaker 5: She talks about all the time.

2595
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, about hearing them call the playout Yeah,

2596
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:05,040
Speaker 2: so Linky was that right tackle and he would hear

2597
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 2: where they where their play would be, and they quit

2598
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:10,080
Speaker 2: even audible out.

2599
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 3: The only thing they could do was run the ball.

2600
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 2: But and that's what got them a little momentum, very

2601
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:19,480
Speaker 2: little in the second half. But he kept saying, why

2602
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 2: are you throwing it? Run the ball and try to

2603
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 2: run through it.

2604
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, link did say their plan was to run

2605
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 5: it more than they had throughout the season. But when

2606
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 5: Barrett Robbins went on, you know, his unfortunate situation down there,

2607
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:33,360
Speaker 5: and they had to go throw Adam True in there,

2608
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 5: who was much smaller, much slender, wasn't as powerful. They

2609
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 5: kind of went back to their passing attack. And that's

2610
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 5: kind of what really, you know, hurt them a lot.

2611
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 5: But what their game play you you cannot have.

2612
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:48,640
Speaker 4: Like you, everybody knows Gruden's intelligence, right, you know, hearing

2613
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 4: Lynch talk about Gruden giving them the playbook weeks in

2614
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 4: advance and saying, hey, that guy's an idiot. He's not

2615
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 4: going to change all of it. Like that built it.

2616
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,280
Speaker 5: Gruden built the playbook. They said. Gruden was the one

2617
02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:59,440
Speaker 5: doing the he was the scout team quarterback. Is that

2618
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 5: Richard's going a pump fake like this, he's gonna do

2619
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:04,480
Speaker 5: all of that. Ever to a tee, they knew so

2620
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:08,840
Speaker 5: imagining a defense that dominant basically and knowing exactly this

2621
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:11,520
Speaker 5: is the Houston Astros, but except they didn't cheat. They

2622
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 5: knew exactly what was coming, and you had one of

2623
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:15,600
Speaker 5: the great defensive units in the history of the sport.

2624
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,680
Speaker 5: That's how you get fifty five to whatever, twenty whatever

2625
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 5: the final score was.

2626
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's spot on. How about you fake?

2627
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, just as incompetent has not changing

2628
02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 5: your place is hiring an assistant football coach who was

2629
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 5: running a bed and breakfast to be your offensive coordinator.

2630
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:36,640
Speaker 5: And I'm throwing that on art Shell. Artshell the first

2631
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 5: run with the La Raiders solid. I don't think he

2632
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:41,640
Speaker 5: was great then either, but he was okay. The second

2633
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:46,760
Speaker 5: stint absolutely embarrassingly terrible. Fits. No Raider fan will ever

2634
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 5: forget Opening night against San Diego, when Sean Merriman was

2635
02:10:50,320 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 5: living in Aaron Brooks's lap. He might have Khalil Mack

2636
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 5: last year had was six sacks against the Raiders. I

2637
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:58,880
Speaker 5: think Sean Merriman had twelve that weekend. Because Aaron Brooks

2638
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,840
Speaker 5: is doing seven step dry in two thousand and six

2639
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 5: behind a terrible offensive line when nobody people stopped doing

2640
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 5: seven just step drops in nineteen ninety four. Yeah, yeah,

2641
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:12,640
Speaker 5: the game had changed by then, Artshell had not, and

2642
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 5: that's why he lasted only one season and they won

2643
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:18,360
Speaker 5: two games that year. Horrible head coaching higher by Al Davis,

2644
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 5: although he had many of them the last two decades

2645
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:22,080
Speaker 5: of his tenure.

2646
02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:24,560
Speaker 4: The only reason I didn't put ar Shell on the list,

2647
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:27,720
Speaker 4: because he would have made it, was because the first

2648
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 4: the first was pretty good. Yeah, So I looked at it.

2649
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I don't know how to balance

2650
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,840
Speaker 4: the first hint being pretty good and the second stint

2651
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 4: being that bad. But I support your your I mean

2652
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 4: my first thought was bed and breakfast offense, Like, just

2653
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:42,640
Speaker 4: I'll never stay at bed breakfast in my life. I

2654
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:44,640
Speaker 4: would never stay in a bed and breakfast, and I

2655
02:11:44,680 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 4: think I can speak for most Raiders fans were also

2656
02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 4: traumatized by the fact that our offensive coordinator had been

2657
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:52,160
Speaker 4: running a bed and breakfast that now, like, I just can't.

2658
02:11:52,240 --> 02:11:54,000
Speaker 4: I can't even if somebody's like, let's go stay at

2659
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:55,800
Speaker 4: a nice bed and breakfast up yours. I don't want

2660
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:57,160
Speaker 4: nothing to do with that, right, Just get out of

2661
02:11:57,200 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 4: my mouth.

2662
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 5: Tom Watsh was his name, offensive coordinator like in the

2663
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:03,440
Speaker 5: eighties or something for the Raiders. They brought him back.

2664
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:05,720
Speaker 5: He'd been running a bed and breakfast for like sixteen years.

2665
02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:08,120
Speaker 5: And his opening press conference with the media and they

2666
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:10,000
Speaker 5: asked him, hey, you've been gone for a while. You

2667
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 5: know football's changed a little bit. How are you gonna

2668
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:15,919
Speaker 5: adapt your offense? He was like, well, it's all just football.

2669
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 5: Football still football, and changed all that much. I knew

2670
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:21,640
Speaker 5: then in July this team is screwed.

2671
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:26,200
Speaker 3: Football.

2672
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:28,560
Speaker 5: It was over. I knew it was over. I don't

2673
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:28,960
Speaker 5: want your.

2674
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:30,880
Speaker 4: Demon's fluffy eggs. I don't want to sleep in.

2675
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 3: The weird like that.

2676
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 4: You take your you can take your bed and breakfast people,

2677
02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 4: and you can just go to hell. I got want

2678
02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:38,200
Speaker 4: nothing to do with it. That was. That was an

2679
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:41,160
Speaker 4: undefeated preseason that turned into the worst season of football

2680
02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 4: I've ever watched in my life. I know, I just yeah,

2681
02:12:44,480 --> 02:12:47,040
Speaker 4: the I am. I am still shook it. I don't

2682
02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 4: even know if I can AIRBNP just because it's too close,

2683
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:51,080
Speaker 4: like it says B and P in it, and that

2684
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 4: just makes me like I can't do it unless Airbnb

2685
02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:56,120
Speaker 4: is a sponsored in which case I use them exclusively.

2686
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best. Uh do you have you ever

2687
02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:02,320
Speaker 3: stayed in the B and B?

2688
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:10,920
Speaker 4: No? No, I'm not. I'm not even kidding, Like no.

2689
02:13:08,440 --> 02:13:11,080
Speaker 5: No, no, neither of I've been. I've stayed in an Airbnb,

2690
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 5: but a legitimate bed and breakfast, like I can't say

2691
02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:14,040
Speaker 5: I've ever stayed in.

2692
02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 3: No. Okay, So I they have them in Italy, a

2693
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:22,400
Speaker 3: lot of them. Like it's kind of like the uh.

2694
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 2: The thing because they're like boutique, little boutique hotels, right,

2695
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:32,160
Speaker 2: and so they're and they and you have they'll have

2696
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 2: a homemade breakfast and you know, the whole thing.

2697
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:37,640
Speaker 3: But the breakfasts are different over there.

2698
02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I love it because they

2699
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 2: have these they'll cook these elaborate meals for you and

2700
02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 2: then you know, you might have you know whatever, fifteen

2701
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:52,920
Speaker 2: to twenty gas the max. And it's the level of

2702
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:57,960
Speaker 2: service because you're in a foreign country is so good

2703
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:01,000
Speaker 2: because they're giving you a word to go. When they

2704
02:14:01,120 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 2: love it, they take over. You know, they're family and

2705
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 2: the food's ridiculous. So I wouldn't do it home, but

2706
02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 2: abroad it makes sense if that makes sense.

2707
02:14:15,560 --> 02:14:18,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that makes total sense. Like abroad,

2708
02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 4: everything feels cool. Like let's just be honest, everything feels cool.

2709
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:25,880
Speaker 4: But again, like Anthony, I got one life rule. One

2710
02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:28,560
Speaker 4: life rule. If you would sit in the theater and

2711
02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:30,640
Speaker 4: you'd see it in the opening scene of a horror

2712
02:14:30,680 --> 02:14:33,080
Speaker 4: movie and say why are you doing that, don't do it?

2713
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:35,920
Speaker 4: Like that's my one. Like I remember years ago, pre

2714
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:39,920
Speaker 4: cell phones being easily accessible in Europe. We were on

2715
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:43,880
Speaker 4: tour out there and this is probably nine twenty ten

2716
02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:46,720
Speaker 4: somewhere back then, and nobody had phones. And I was

2717
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:49,600
Speaker 4: walking back towards a hotel with the tour manager at

2718
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 4: the time that I had and the tour managers looked

2719
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 4: at me and he's like, came, man, I think if

2720
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 4: we cut through this alley, we'll get to the hotel.

2721
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:57,520
Speaker 4: Now we were derunk, like we weren't drunk, we were drunk,

2722
02:14:57,800 --> 02:14:59,200
Speaker 4: and I was like, I just looked at them and

2723
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:01,360
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, neither of us have cell phones.

2724
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:04,520
Speaker 4: Nobody knows where we are. We're drunk in a foreign

2725
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:06,960
Speaker 4: country where we don't even speak the language, and you

2726
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:08,800
Speaker 4: want to walk down a dark alley to get to

2727
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:10,920
Speaker 4: the hotel that's how we die. And it was that

2728
02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:12,880
Speaker 4: moment that I decided if I would see it in

2729
02:15:12,920 --> 02:15:14,800
Speaker 4: the beginning of a horror movie, I'm not gonna do it.

2730
02:15:15,080 --> 02:15:15,400
Speaker 5: For me.

2731
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:18,280
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of like going to going to

2732
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:21,360
Speaker 4: Italy for example, and like staying at a random Airbnb.

2733
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:23,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. Again, I get a little that feels

2734
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,120
Speaker 4: like the opening is Saw nine. I'm just I gotta

2735
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:28,400
Speaker 4: see a lot of reviews. I'm gonna need like somebody's

2736
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:30,080
Speaker 4: gonna have to make sure I'm not in a hostile movie,

2737
02:15:30,080 --> 02:15:31,880
Speaker 4: because I wouldn't do well in those things, you know,

2738
02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:33,920
Speaker 4: I like, I need a little I need a little

2739
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 4: security there.

2740
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, now they're they're good, but I feel, yeah, I

2741
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:40,680
Speaker 2: love your role. It's a great life rule. All right,

2742
02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 2: I got another football question for you off my list.

2743
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:49,920
Speaker 2: Give me the two teams that if you weren't a

2744
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:53,840
Speaker 2: Raiders fan, you could see yourself being a fan of,

2745
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:58,520
Speaker 2: and in two teams you could never root for.

2746
02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:01,600
Speaker 5: I will say about the way my second coach, I

2747
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:02,640
Speaker 5: didn't get my second coach.

2748
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

2749
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 5: The runner up would have been Josh McDaniels. And that's

2750
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:08,640
Speaker 5: not just for his Raider tenure. He was in Denver too.

2751
02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:14,160
Speaker 5: People might forget Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia absolute disaster with

2752
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:16,800
Speaker 5: the Lions. Allions team that was actually decent most years

2753
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:19,520
Speaker 5: with Jim Calwell, they fired him, brought this guy in

2754
02:16:19,720 --> 02:16:22,440
Speaker 5: clearly didn't know what he was doing, and the Lions

2755
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:24,560
Speaker 5: turned into the old Lions yet again. But you know what,

2756
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:27,280
Speaker 5: Lion fans are probably smiling because they wouldn't have the

2757
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 5: greatness that is Dan Campbell right now, So they're probably

2758
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:32,120
Speaker 5: appreciative of a couple of years that they had to

2759
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:34,000
Speaker 5: suffer through with Matt Patricia as the head coach.

2760
02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:37,080
Speaker 3: Don't forget I had Matt Patricia last year.

2761
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:40,240
Speaker 5: That's right, he got three coordinator extraordinary.

2762
02:16:40,720 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting, dude.

2763
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:47,400
Speaker 5: Some guys just aren't cut out to be head coaches,

2764
02:16:47,440 --> 02:16:48,000
Speaker 5: you know, I.

2765
02:16:47,959 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 3: Know, I know, I felt that I was a smart guy.

2766
02:16:50,959 --> 02:16:55,280
Speaker 2: That onen't surprised me that he was a flop, be

2767
02:16:55,400 --> 02:16:56,560
Speaker 2: honest with it anyway.

2768
02:16:56,720 --> 02:16:58,680
Speaker 5: I mean, same vein. I mean, I know Morning Wegg

2769
02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:00,560
Speaker 5: is a guy too. Spent some time out there in Philly.

2770
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:01,640
Speaker 5: You probably know him a little bit.

2771
02:17:01,720 --> 02:17:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

2772
02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:04,160
Speaker 5: I just don't think Marty was cut out for a

2773
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:05,959
Speaker 5: head coaching situation either. In Detroit.

2774
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:10,280
Speaker 2: No, I no, I agree with you, all right, you'll

2775
02:17:10,400 --> 02:17:16,039
Speaker 2: give me first fits. He give me the two teams

2776
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:21,600
Speaker 2: that you know, if you weren't a Raider fan, you

2777
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:24,560
Speaker 2: could see yourself being a fan of these two teams.

2778
02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:30,280
Speaker 4: That's like I've been so universally, just like one way

2779
02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:33,400
Speaker 4: for my whole life. I think like I was a

2780
02:17:33,400 --> 02:17:36,240
Speaker 4: Bears fan, like a side piece with the Bears as

2781
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 4: a kid, Like I always like McMahon, So I would

2782
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:39,400
Speaker 4: say the Bears have a soft spot in my heart,

2783
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:42,119
Speaker 4: so I would go Chicago. I have spent so much

2784
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:46,800
Speaker 4: of my life absolutely anti every other AFC team. I

2785
02:17:46,840 --> 02:17:48,480
Speaker 4: don't know if I could pick an AFC Like people

2786
02:17:48,480 --> 02:17:50,160
Speaker 4: are gonna expect me to say Titans because I lived

2787
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,800
Speaker 4: in Nashville for so long. But Titans fans, and I

2788
02:17:52,840 --> 02:17:54,280
Speaker 4: know some of you guys are listening, I know we're

2789
02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:56,240
Speaker 4: on there. I just gotta say, like, Titans fans are

2790
02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:58,600
Speaker 4: the most fair weather. It's so obnoxious, like they yell

2791
02:17:58,640 --> 02:18:00,800
Speaker 4: about not getting enough credit and then the minute the

2792
02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:02,959
Speaker 4: team stinks, they all stopped talking about it, stopped going

2793
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:05,480
Speaker 4: to the games, and like stop, it just stops resonating.

2794
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:07,120
Speaker 4: I could never be part of a fan base like that.

2795
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:10,320
Speaker 4: Oh that's anation, So like, you know, sorry, Titans fans,

2796
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:12,080
Speaker 4: you can at me, but like I just I could

2797
02:18:12,160 --> 02:18:14,840
Speaker 4: never be a Titans fan. So I think I go Bears,

2798
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:18,800
Speaker 4: and then I as a second right now, I would

2799
02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:21,120
Speaker 4: say the Lions because it's such a fun story, but

2800
02:18:21,240 --> 02:18:24,040
Speaker 4: like historically that's a terrible team to want to root for,

2801
02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 4: so you know, but I could see I could see

2802
02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:29,560
Speaker 4: the Lions right now being sort of a fun way

2803
02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:31,840
Speaker 4: to transition into loving a different team.

2804
02:18:32,520 --> 02:18:34,920
Speaker 5: Fig So it's so funny because you're a fandom. When

2805
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:36,400
Speaker 5: you were a kid, you had your Eagles and you

2806
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:38,800
Speaker 5: had the Raiders. It was the same thing for me.

2807
02:18:38,879 --> 02:18:40,640
Speaker 5: The Raiders were number one for me, and then when

2808
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:42,920
Speaker 5: the Rams left I mentioned earlier in the show, and

2809
02:18:42,920 --> 02:18:44,440
Speaker 5: the Rams are an easy one, so I'm gonna put

2810
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:45,960
Speaker 5: them as one of the teams. I think that's an

2811
02:18:45,959 --> 02:18:48,640
Speaker 5: obvious one. But the Eagles are the other one because

2812
02:18:48,680 --> 02:18:50,879
Speaker 5: I was a huge fan of Donoviguan McNabb back to day.

2813
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:55,039
Speaker 5: I loved Andy Reid. I love that team, the toughness

2814
02:18:55,080 --> 02:18:58,640
Speaker 5: on defense. Dawkins was one of my favorite players, so

2815
02:18:58,760 --> 02:19:00,760
Speaker 5: like that was a squad about that I love. I

2816
02:19:00,800 --> 02:19:04,120
Speaker 5: was actually somewhat dreading the potential of the Raiders playing

2817
02:19:04,120 --> 02:19:06,280
Speaker 5: the Eagles in the Super Bowl in two thousand and two. No, granted,

2818
02:19:06,320 --> 02:19:08,560
Speaker 5: I wanted the Raiders to win, but I did want

2819
02:19:08,560 --> 02:19:11,040
Speaker 5: it to be at the at the expense of Eagles

2820
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:12,760
Speaker 5: because I love McNabb and I love reading. I love

2821
02:19:12,840 --> 02:19:15,960
Speaker 5: that team so much. So Rams and the Eagles are

2822
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:17,560
Speaker 5: the two franchises that I would root for.

2823
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 3: That's interesting. Did you ever see Cunningham or was he

2824
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:22,520
Speaker 3: before your time?

2825
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:25,000
Speaker 5: A little bit? A little bit, Yeah, but he was.

2826
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:26,560
Speaker 5: He was a little before I'm not liked to where

2827
02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:29,560
Speaker 5: I was conscious watching every single week, you know, knowing

2828
02:19:29,600 --> 02:19:30,680
Speaker 5: exactly what's going on.

2829
02:19:30,959 --> 02:19:33,160
Speaker 3: Dude, you would have loved him.

2830
02:19:33,640 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 5: I love of the highlights, for sure.

2831
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:40,720
Speaker 2: I loved Cunningham. Oh my god, he was He would

2832
02:19:40,760 --> 02:19:43,800
Speaker 2: have been. He would have been a great player today.

2833
02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:46,760
Speaker 2: He had no coaching. Yeah, like you know, he was

2834
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:49,280
Speaker 2: coming out of UNLV, was the second round pick, and

2835
02:19:49,400 --> 02:19:51,720
Speaker 2: he had rich Coke tight.

2836
02:19:52,280 --> 02:19:53,800
Speaker 5: Oh he was on my list too, by the way,

2837
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:56,959
Speaker 5: as far as bad coaches, he was. He was on

2838
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:57,840
Speaker 5: the short list for me.

2839
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:00,800
Speaker 3: Well that's what's by the question.

2840
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:09,920
Speaker 2: Yes, he was horrible and Randall had no offense Buddy

2841
02:20:09,959 --> 02:20:12,240
Speaker 2: was the speaking of the eighty five Bears fift he

2842
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:16,480
Speaker 2: brought him up. Buddy Ryan was the coach of Randall,

2843
02:20:17,080 --> 02:20:19,680
Speaker 2: but he was really defensive coordinator and the OC was

2844
02:20:19,720 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 2: the guy in charge of the offense, and that was

2845
02:20:22,760 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 2: Rich co Titan.

2846
02:20:23,480 --> 02:20:26,680
Speaker 3: It was a disaster. Yeah, just it's a shame because

2847
02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:30,200
Speaker 3: he was so great and he could do everything. Yeah.

2848
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:32,440
Speaker 5: When I started watching the Eagles consciously, it was more

2849
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:35,160
Speaker 5: of like the late nineties. My co worker, now Rodney

2850
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:37,879
Speaker 5: Pete was was a quarterback then. I think Duce Staley

2851
02:20:37,959 --> 02:20:40,240
Speaker 5: was young, had just started, you know, playing there.

2852
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2853
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:44,480
Speaker 5: Ray Rhodes, whoever, was insane, at least Rodney says he

2854
02:20:44,480 --> 02:20:46,760
Speaker 5: has some stories about Ray rhads for sure, but that

2855
02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:48,039
Speaker 5: was kind of like, you know what I can get

2856
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:49,800
Speaker 5: with this team. I liked him, and then when McNabb

2857
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:51,320
Speaker 5: got there that it kind of took off from me.

2858
02:20:51,760 --> 02:20:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2859
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:56,879
Speaker 3: Ray was Ray was nuts. Yeah, he was nuts.

2860
02:20:57,160 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 2: He gave these speeches about truiders coming into your house.

2861
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:04,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know.

2862
02:21:05,400 --> 02:21:09,320
Speaker 2: They're coming after your family, right, Like he like the

2863
02:21:09,440 --> 02:21:13,240
Speaker 2: crazy things they want to they want to peel on

2864
02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:14,080
Speaker 2: your drapes.

2865
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:17,080
Speaker 3: Dude.

2866
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:21,039
Speaker 2: The thing was UNBELI like horrible stuff to like you

2867
02:21:21,080 --> 02:21:24,200
Speaker 2: know what, I really can't say on the air, right,

2868
02:21:24,320 --> 02:21:26,880
Speaker 2: and then you know, like this whole idea that the

2869
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:30,240
Speaker 2: opponent was coming in your house.

2870
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:34,720
Speaker 3: They were intruders. Ah, he was the best. He was nuts.

2871
02:21:35,040 --> 02:21:37,920
Speaker 2: And then after practice there was like an ot b

2872
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:41,840
Speaker 2: uh right down the street from practice, from the where

2873
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:45,560
Speaker 2: the Eagles practice, and he go and spend the whole

2874
02:21:45,640 --> 02:21:48,640
Speaker 2: day at the otb after practice.

2875
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:52,560
Speaker 3: He was He was a character man. He loved the horses.

2876
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:55,560
Speaker 3: He was great. He was a cool guy, great coordinator.

2877
02:21:56,040 --> 02:22:01,880
Speaker 2: Like, hey, coach, yeah, yeah, all right, give me two

2878
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:06,920
Speaker 2: teams fits your up who you could never root for

2879
02:22:06,959 --> 02:22:09,959
Speaker 2: it ever, ever, never, ever.

2880
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:13,920
Speaker 4: Ever, Denver and Kansas City. I mean like that, that's easy.

2881
02:22:14,120 --> 02:22:16,760
Speaker 4: I'm indifferent towards the Chargers compared to those two like

2882
02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 4: Denver in Kansas City. Now, like if somebody today offered

2883
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 4: me a million dollars to go root for those teams,

2884
02:22:21,800 --> 02:22:23,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to do it. I wouldn't be

2885
02:22:23,200 --> 02:22:25,160
Speaker 4: able to do it in any level of sincerity. I

2886
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:29,039
Speaker 4: just it's impossible. I also could never root for the Patriots.

2887
02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:32,200
Speaker 4: I could never root for the Chargers. I could never

2888
02:22:32,280 --> 02:22:34,520
Speaker 4: root for the Steelers. Like my list, my hate list

2889
02:22:34,600 --> 02:22:37,120
Speaker 4: is heavy when it comes to like, I want all

2890
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,120
Speaker 4: these fan bases to have their their joy. But yeah,

2891
02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 4: my list of nope, nope, nope, I'm out. Like I'm

2892
02:22:42,080 --> 02:22:43,640
Speaker 4: a very picky person in that sense.

2893
02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:45,440
Speaker 5: There is there enough hate to go around. That's literally

2894
02:22:45,480 --> 02:22:48,320
Speaker 5: my entire list. Like it. It starts with Chiefs Broncos.

2895
02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:50,680
Speaker 5: It trickles down to the on a lesser level, to

2896
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:53,400
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Patriots. And I'm kind of

2897
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,800
Speaker 5: indifferent to the Chargers. I can really care less what happens,

2898
02:22:57,160 --> 02:22:57,920
Speaker 5: So I love that.

2899
02:22:58,560 --> 02:23:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm like that with the Cowboys the Giants, yeah, but

2900
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:05,240
Speaker 2: definitely Cowboys. There's no way in the world. All right,

2901
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:08,560
Speaker 2: let's take a quick tear. We'll come back and uh,

2902
02:23:08,640 --> 02:23:12,560
Speaker 2: we'll talk to the brain. We'll get a little NFL

2903
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:20,240
Speaker 2: how to attack the NFL preseason and some NFL futures with.

2904
02:23:20,320 --> 02:23:21,440
Speaker 3: Our betting expert.

2905
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:24,280
Speaker 2: That's coming up next for the fellas right here on

2906
02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:25,959
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

2907
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:31,360
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2908
02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:34,760
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2909
02:23:34,920 --> 02:23:39,000
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2910
02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:39,760
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2911
02:23:43,560 --> 02:23:48,720
Speaker 3: You're listening to that man last night.

2912
02:23:50,720 --> 02:23:57,920
Speaker 2: On stage, Jason fits, that's just beautiful, man.

2913
02:23:59,240 --> 02:24:01,480
Speaker 4: I gotta give the thanks to the Collective Soul guys,

2914
02:24:01,560 --> 02:24:03,640
Speaker 4: like they've had a bunch of hits and to let

2915
02:24:03,640 --> 02:24:06,120
Speaker 4: me come out and play on one of them was

2916
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:08,760
Speaker 4: a really cool experience. Spent the day with him, it

2917
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:12,360
Speaker 4: was awesome and the guys just like, they're just great guys.

2918
02:24:12,600 --> 02:24:15,520
Speaker 4: I've known the guitar player Jesse in that band for

2919
02:24:15,560 --> 02:24:18,480
Speaker 4: a long time, and we've actually, for all the years

2920
02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:20,600
Speaker 4: we've been on different tours together and music, we've never

2921
02:24:20,600 --> 02:24:22,840
Speaker 4: actually stood on stage and played a song together. So

2922
02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:25,200
Speaker 4: we figured we might as well do that. And it

2923
02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:27,680
Speaker 4: was great, like you know, twenty three thousand people strong

2924
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:31,920
Speaker 4: and Hartford having a blast, but also like everybody backstage

2925
02:24:31,959 --> 02:24:33,360
Speaker 4: like it was such a cool moment for me. I'm

2926
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:35,160
Speaker 4: a big Edward McCain fan. I have been for my

2927
02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:38,400
Speaker 4: whole adult life. I love those songs. And he went

2928
02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:41,240
Speaker 4: out and slayed the first this opening set. He was

2929
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:43,960
Speaker 4: absolutely great, and then walked up to me backstage after

2930
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:46,640
Speaker 4: I played and you know, said, he He's like, hey, man,

2931
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:48,240
Speaker 4: you really crushed it, and he's like, if I'd have

2932
02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:49,480
Speaker 4: known you were out here, I wish you would have

2933
02:24:49,480 --> 02:24:51,520
Speaker 4: sat in with me too, and it was cool moment

2934
02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:53,000
Speaker 4: because I was like, man, when I would love to

2935
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:54,800
Speaker 4: do that, he said, take my number. So now I'm

2936
02:24:54,840 --> 02:24:56,800
Speaker 4: texting buddies with Edwin McCain and it was like those

2937
02:24:56,879 --> 02:25:03,000
Speaker 4: for me, that's cool. I love that stuff. Obviously, Hoody

2938
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:05,240
Speaker 4: was the headliner. I've known Darius for a long time,

2939
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:08,240
Speaker 4: but even the Hoody guys, who I hadn't met until

2940
02:25:08,680 --> 02:25:11,200
Speaker 4: until the concert, we're just salt of the earth.

2941
02:25:11,240 --> 02:25:11,480
Speaker 7: I love.

2942
02:25:11,560 --> 02:25:13,360
Speaker 4: I love these acts that have had their moment, that

2943
02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:16,040
Speaker 4: are now getting their second chapter. There's such a grace

2944
02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:18,200
Speaker 4: and thanks in all of it. And for me it's

2945
02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:20,400
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, it's like getting a scratch and

2946
02:25:20,480 --> 02:25:22,400
Speaker 4: itch and then just getting to go back home and

2947
02:25:22,600 --> 02:25:25,000
Speaker 4: and you know, continue about my move about the cabin

2948
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:25,959
Speaker 4: in my normal life.

2949
02:25:26,360 --> 02:25:27,360
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

2950
02:25:27,400 --> 02:25:30,160
Speaker 2: You sound great, buddy, you sound great. Collect the Soldan

2951
02:25:30,360 --> 02:25:34,959
Speaker 2: really awesome stuff. All right, let's welcome in our man

2952
02:25:35,080 --> 02:25:39,080
Speaker 2: as we look at football from a betting angle and

2953
02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:44,040
Speaker 2: the preseason from a betting angle. The big Brain, Hello Brain,

2954
02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:46,320
Speaker 2: Good morning, Brad Feinberg.

2955
02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:49,240
Speaker 7: Good morning. So I gotta tell you, sifty that is impressive. Eye.

2956
02:25:49,280 --> 02:25:52,240
Speaker 7: I like collect the soul. That's really cool, man. I

2957
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:55,440
Speaker 7: gotta if I was wearing my hat, it'd be tips

2958
02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:59,240
Speaker 7: right now. That's really me. No, no, no.

2959
02:25:59,240 --> 02:26:02,440
Speaker 3: Joke, salented man, it fits, He's no joke.

2960
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:05,120
Speaker 4: It is funny though, because like I made my money

2961
02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:08,000
Speaker 4: in country music, and I love country music. I love

2962
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:10,120
Speaker 4: the people in country music. But of all the golden

2963
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:12,640
Speaker 4: platinum records I have in my life, humble brag, the

2964
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:14,800
Speaker 4: one I'm proud of stuff is actually Matchbox twenty. Like.

2965
02:26:14,800 --> 02:26:17,039
Speaker 4: I grew up a nineties rock guy, like so like

2966
02:26:17,360 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 4: eighties eighties hair metal turned into nineties rock turned it

2967
02:26:20,680 --> 02:26:23,200
Speaker 4: like so, it is funny how playing with the band

2968
02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:25,360
Speaker 4: like Collective Soul actually did it meant a lot. I've

2969
02:26:25,400 --> 02:26:26,760
Speaker 4: been lucky to be on stage with a lot of

2970
02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:29,240
Speaker 4: huge country acts, but I think when you crossover into

2971
02:26:29,240 --> 02:26:31,600
Speaker 4: different different genres, it just hits different.

2972
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:34,320
Speaker 3: It does. That's why I listened to you.

2973
02:26:34,360 --> 02:26:37,240
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, man, so you know that's I

2974
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:41,080
Speaker 2: love that nineties rock like I love that stuff, and uh,

2975
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:42,879
Speaker 2: it just don't know, that's pretty awesome.

2976
02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:43,320
Speaker 7: I got it.

2977
02:26:43,320 --> 02:26:43,520
Speaker 4: I know.

2978
02:26:43,640 --> 02:26:46,400
Speaker 7: I know it's a sports show, guys, but what happened

2979
02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:50,560
Speaker 7: to that? You just think that was my that was

2980
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:53,080
Speaker 7: my favorite whatever you want to call it, Like Era

2981
02:26:53,680 --> 02:26:56,960
Speaker 7: was that nineties rock and it just disappeared.

2982
02:26:58,440 --> 02:27:01,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think there's a couple bands have

2983
02:27:01,080 --> 02:27:03,600
Speaker 4: disappeared because if you're a record label, the cost to

2984
02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:06,160
Speaker 4: launch in a band is far higher than it is

2985
02:27:06,200 --> 02:27:09,360
Speaker 4: to launch a solo act, so they're you're risking it

2986
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:12,240
Speaker 4: from the music industry side, and then in a you know,

2987
02:27:12,400 --> 02:27:15,080
Speaker 4: and the way the creativity works now, so many people

2988
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:17,120
Speaker 4: are just you know, used to be got in a

2989
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:18,960
Speaker 4: garage with some buddies and you just try to figure

2990
02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:20,760
Speaker 4: out how to be a band. And now you get

2991
02:27:20,760 --> 02:27:23,000
Speaker 4: in the garage with a camera and you start making

2992
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:24,840
Speaker 4: your own content. So you just have more and more

2993
02:27:24,840 --> 02:27:27,360
Speaker 4: people that don't want to share the creative process. They

2994
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Speaker 4: just want to be the creative process. I'm a band guy, man,

2995
02:27:29,600 --> 02:27:32,120
Speaker 4: like I like being on the fellows. I like in

2996
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:34,120
Speaker 4: my life, I like to be surrounded by people. So

2997
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Speaker 4: I'm a band.

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02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:39,360
Speaker 2: You're a team guy. Band guys are team guys. So

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Speaker 2: with you, man, I'm a team guy too. I completely

3000
02:27:41,879 --> 02:27:45,240
Speaker 2: relate to you. And and you know what's interesting is

3001
02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:48,440
Speaker 2: I just in fact a buddy of mine. Hey, Brad,

3002
02:27:48,480 --> 02:27:53,560
Speaker 2: you know vg VG is a music works for a

3003
02:27:53,600 --> 02:27:57,440
Speaker 2: music label by Day, and he's one of my guys

3004
02:27:57,480 --> 02:28:00,640
Speaker 2: on my show, and he was tell me a story

3005
02:28:00,840 --> 02:28:06,800
Speaker 2: about he just saw it in the first four years

3006
02:28:06,879 --> 02:28:10,040
Speaker 2: of each decade they went through.

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02:28:10,120 --> 02:28:11,640
Speaker 3: Because we're in the twenty twenty four.

3008
02:28:13,040 --> 02:28:16,720
Speaker 2: The number one, the number one singing number one song

3009
02:28:17,280 --> 02:28:23,280
Speaker 2: on the chart was like forty eight out of fifty

3010
02:28:23,280 --> 02:28:28,480
Speaker 2: two weeks was a band in nineteen ninety and two thousands,

3011
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:34,480
Speaker 2: except now it's only two weeks. There's no bands. To

3012
02:28:34,600 --> 02:28:38,959
Speaker 2: Fitzi's point, wow, there's only two weeks of the first

3013
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:42,320
Speaker 2: four years was a band song and like, I guess

3014
02:28:42,400 --> 02:28:44,560
Speaker 2: one was like a Beatles kind of.

3015
02:28:44,480 --> 02:28:46,720
Speaker 4: Re and like think about the band world too, like

3016
02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:48,640
Speaker 4: it's it really is like being in a marriage. The

3017
02:28:48,640 --> 02:28:52,720
Speaker 4: reason bands eventually break up is because creativity is sort

3018
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:55,520
Speaker 4: of everything to creatives, you know, and so you spend

3019
02:28:55,520 --> 02:28:58,120
Speaker 4: your whole life making compromises and it is like a

3020
02:28:58,120 --> 02:28:59,800
Speaker 4: marriage in the sense of like what do you want

3021
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:01,400
Speaker 4: to do on a Saturday? But what do you want

3022
02:29:01,440 --> 02:29:03,720
Speaker 4: to do when it comes to like the tour and

3023
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:06,480
Speaker 4: the way it looks and how the video walls are,

3024
02:29:06,520 --> 02:29:08,520
Speaker 4: and like what the songs are and what's going to

3025
02:29:08,560 --> 02:29:10,280
Speaker 4: be the next single, and every one of those things

3026
02:29:10,320 --> 02:29:13,840
Speaker 4: becomes a level of compromise and a level of negotiation,

3027
02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:15,600
Speaker 4: and it just wears your down over time too. So

3028
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:17,720
Speaker 4: like you used to have to have that band because

3029
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:19,000
Speaker 4: you wanted to go out on the road. Now you

3030
02:29:19,080 --> 02:29:20,440
Speaker 4: know you can just grab a guitar and go out

3031
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:21,000
Speaker 4: on your own.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

3033
02:29:22,200 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 2: Well, it's something about the power of people together and

3034
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:26,280
Speaker 2: what they can do.

3035
02:29:27,160 --> 02:29:30,359
Speaker 3: You know. All right, brain, we're excited.

3036
02:29:30,440 --> 02:29:35,200
Speaker 2: I know you were too about preseason football, So let

3037
02:29:35,560 --> 02:29:39,920
Speaker 2: me let me ask you what's the way to attack

3038
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:41,520
Speaker 2: preseason football.

3039
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's funny. I'm only so far the one

3040
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:48,360
Speaker 7: preseason game. But what it is, it's all and I look,

3041
02:29:48,360 --> 02:29:50,320
Speaker 7: I'm lucky. I have a network of people now that

3042
02:29:50,879 --> 02:29:55,120
Speaker 7: texts me stuff, give me stuff of information they're hearing,

3043
02:29:55,160 --> 02:29:57,400
Speaker 7: and and I can just follow that information without me

3044
02:29:57,480 --> 02:29:59,800
Speaker 7: having to do it all by myself. So let me

3045
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:02,880
Speaker 7: make that perfectly clear. But it's an information based game.

3046
02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:08,279
Speaker 7: And in preseason, if you know, look, if you're following

3047
02:30:08,320 --> 02:30:11,560
Speaker 7: the beat writers on Twitter of all the you know

3048
02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:14,560
Speaker 7: the thirty teams, Okay, if your thirty two teams aren't

3049
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:16,640
Speaker 7: getting I get any of thirty two games might have

3050
02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:19,040
Speaker 7: thirty two games. If you're following on Twitter to beat

3051
02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:22,200
Speaker 7: writers of all thirty two teams, seeing, okay, what's the

3052
02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:25,680
Speaker 7: quarterback rotation going to be in a game? That is

3053
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:30,320
Speaker 7: obviously a paramount importance. If Team A is not going

3054
02:30:30,360 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 7: to be playing, there are any other quote unquote decent quarterbacks,

3055
02:30:34,480 --> 02:30:36,240
Speaker 7: and Team B is the obviously going to look to

3056
02:30:36,240 --> 02:30:39,200
Speaker 7: take Team B. And if you just see how many

3057
02:30:39,200 --> 02:30:43,200
Speaker 7: starters are going to be playing in a game versus

3058
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:46,039
Speaker 7: another team, again, some teams take these games. You think

3059
02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:49,160
Speaker 7: it's the flute guys that the Ravens won twenty three

3060
02:30:49,440 --> 02:30:51,760
Speaker 7: or twenty four straight preseason and jink that was just luck.

3061
02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:57,000
Speaker 7: I guarantee it wasn't okay. Obviously, Harball for whatever reason,

3062
02:30:57,320 --> 02:31:00,360
Speaker 7: whether it's right, wrong, and different treated the pre season

3063
02:31:00,600 --> 02:31:03,480
Speaker 7: in different manners than other coaches would. Now again, that

3064
02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:05,680
Speaker 7: started to catch up. The line started to catch up

3065
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:07,879
Speaker 7: to them when they kept winning and people knew about

3066
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:12,240
Speaker 7: the trend. But you know, certain coaches take this, For example,

3067
02:31:12,320 --> 02:31:17,280
Speaker 7: Sean McVay, he's in the past taken preseason like who

3068
02:31:17,440 --> 02:31:19,720
Speaker 7: cares a a little about it as you can care

3069
02:31:19,760 --> 02:31:22,560
Speaker 7: about something, and he doesn't play as players. And now

3070
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:24,800
Speaker 7: if you think of us. The line makers have gotten better.

3071
02:31:25,080 --> 02:31:28,320
Speaker 7: I'll say that, guy's the line makers have really improved

3072
02:31:28,520 --> 02:31:31,039
Speaker 7: in comes of being bumps this for a while on.

3073
02:31:31,240 --> 02:31:35,320
Speaker 7: Now you know they've they've gotten better and understanding Okay,

3074
02:31:35,480 --> 02:31:38,440
Speaker 7: wait a minute, make them ends up playing here that

3075
02:31:38,560 --> 02:31:41,840
Speaker 7: we're not going to see, you know, Matt Stafford. We're

3076
02:31:41,879 --> 02:31:44,760
Speaker 7: not going to see Cook and the Coup. We're not

3077
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:46,960
Speaker 7: going to say Cooper Club. We're not going to see anyone,

3078
02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:50,320
Speaker 7: you know, an Donald back before to retire. We're not

3079
02:31:50,320 --> 02:31:52,200
Speaker 7: going to see those guys. So they've done a better

3080
02:31:52,280 --> 02:31:55,920
Speaker 7: job of doing that. But again, not to be extremely

3081
02:31:56,040 --> 02:31:58,879
Speaker 7: guys of the NBA and well draft, that would not

3082
02:31:58,920 --> 02:32:02,360
Speaker 7: be fair to say because that's real information in terms

3083
02:32:02,400 --> 02:32:04,760
Speaker 7: of who guys in the pick. But it is an

3084
02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:09,160
Speaker 7: information basically just reading about what players you expect to play.

3085
02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:10,280
Speaker 7: It's a little bit like.

3086
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Speaker 2: We can say rotations, like quarterback rotation, yea quarterback ro

3087
02:32:14,840 --> 02:32:19,080
Speaker 2: the most important what players are they talking about?

3088
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:23,840
Speaker 4: Benching sitting rightly, it's like week seventeen in the NFL.

3089
02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:27,039
Speaker 7: Guys, if you look at the Lions could change the

3090
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:29,760
Speaker 7: most of the seventeen weeks in the pro football season

3091
02:32:29,840 --> 02:32:32,240
Speaker 7: or eighteen whatever it is eighteen weeks in the pro

3092
02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:35,959
Speaker 7: football season with the bye weeks. The week eighteen is

3093
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:40,000
Speaker 7: the lines that the line can change most suggressively because

3094
02:32:40,280 --> 02:32:42,080
Speaker 7: you get players who are going to be sitting out.

3095
02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 7: You know, teams are clinching, like for example, like when

3096
02:32:45,480 --> 02:32:48,440
Speaker 7: Baltimore played Pittsburgh last year, the last game of the year,

3097
02:32:48,760 --> 02:32:52,119
Speaker 7: they didn't play Lamar Jackson, so that line changed like crazy.

3098
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:55,279
Speaker 7: You know. You just if you're ahead of that information

3099
02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:58,480
Speaker 7: and you're in early versus a minute late, that could

3100
02:32:58,480 --> 02:33:01,160
Speaker 7: be the difference in getting like three points in mind value.

3101
02:33:01,360 --> 02:33:04,199
Speaker 7: Those lines never moved like that during weeks one through seventeen,

3102
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:08,520
Speaker 7: but during the preseason, during Week eighteen of the NFL season, Guys,

3103
02:33:08,840 --> 02:33:11,120
Speaker 7: that's what if you can get that information. You're fast,

3104
02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:13,320
Speaker 7: and you're right on the ball, and you're ready to

3105
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:16,520
Speaker 7: enter and hit go. When you get that information, you'll

3106
02:33:16,560 --> 02:33:19,279
Speaker 7: be extremely, extremely profitable.

3107
02:33:21,160 --> 02:33:23,120
Speaker 4: Is there I told my friends last night when I

3108
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:24,200
Speaker 4: was hanging out that I was going to ask you

3109
02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:27,720
Speaker 4: an important question. Is there value in at the beginning

3110
02:33:27,760 --> 02:33:29,840
Speaker 4: of the NFL season Week one? Let's say, is there

3111
02:33:29,920 --> 02:33:32,000
Speaker 4: value to just hanging out in the sidelines letting Week

3112
02:33:32,040 --> 02:33:34,120
Speaker 4: one happen? And then seeing how things normalize, given the

3113
02:33:34,120 --> 02:33:35,800
Speaker 4: fact the preseason tells us so little.

3114
02:33:36,959 --> 02:33:39,640
Speaker 7: No, I actually I'm gonna I'm gonna go over the

3115
02:33:39,680 --> 02:33:44,359
Speaker 7: top and disagree with you. I think week one actually

3116
02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:47,240
Speaker 7: they posted now again, now at this point the lines

3117
02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 7: have changed, but like there were, you know, I bet

3118
02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 7: like four or five things, and all the lines that

3119
02:33:53,720 --> 02:33:56,600
Speaker 7: moved substantially in my favor of the things I bet.

3120
02:33:56,720 --> 02:33:59,760
Speaker 7: Because they post the lines in the summer, like you know,

3121
02:34:00,160 --> 02:34:03,800
Speaker 7: before the game start, there's more, it's up there for

3122
02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:07,400
Speaker 7: a longer time and you can you can see how

3123
02:34:07,440 --> 02:34:10,920
Speaker 7: things potentially do change, and you can get value if

3124
02:34:10,959 --> 02:34:13,080
Speaker 7: you betting early. But no, you're talking about break betting

3125
02:34:13,160 --> 02:34:15,280
Speaker 7: right now. Then I won't disagree with you that much

3126
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:18,400
Speaker 7: in the sense that you can do that if you

3127
02:34:18,440 --> 02:34:20,320
Speaker 7: want to just see how things go in week one.

3128
02:34:20,360 --> 02:34:22,760
Speaker 7: But if you would have bet this stuff, you know,

3129
02:34:22,800 --> 02:34:25,320
Speaker 7: when these lines first came out, which was literally like

3130
02:34:25,640 --> 02:34:28,400
Speaker 7: six weeks ago, you could have had stuff in your

3131
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:31,000
Speaker 7: pocket where you're beating these lines by two points. But

3132
02:34:31,480 --> 02:34:33,760
Speaker 7: from the day of the game, yeah, I mean, there's

3133
02:34:33,760 --> 02:34:35,400
Speaker 7: not going to be any value per se. And that's

3134
02:34:35,440 --> 02:34:37,560
Speaker 7: just you know, dealer's choice. If you want to do

3135
02:34:37,600 --> 02:34:39,600
Speaker 7: that and just see how things go. That's certainly you're right,

3136
02:34:39,640 --> 02:34:41,720
Speaker 7: but yet preseason is certainly you're not going to tell

3137
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:42,199
Speaker 7: us anything.

3138
02:34:42,440 --> 02:34:44,440
Speaker 2: All right, real quick, because we're up against it at

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Speaker 2: bradsbeest Bets dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you got to check them out. What do you

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Speaker 3: got for us today?

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Speaker 7: Buddy, got a lot of stuff, my friend, I'll run

3143
02:34:52,120 --> 02:34:55,120
Speaker 7: through it quickly. Brought up Royals, Anthony. I know I

3144
02:34:55,120 --> 02:34:59,080
Speaker 7: talked about with you the other day. Tigers. Right now,

3145
02:34:59,360 --> 02:35:01,600
Speaker 7: I think the worst team in baseball. You hurt me right.

3146
02:35:01,840 --> 02:35:03,680
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna be as bad as the White Sox.

3147
02:35:03,879 --> 02:35:06,440
Speaker 7: They had. Look at their lineup right now, they had

3148
02:35:06,440 --> 02:35:10,680
Speaker 7: nothing except except when the great three school pitches as

3149
02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,920
Speaker 7: they touched up yesterday. They can't. They can't hit. I

3150
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:16,640
Speaker 7: like the Royals minus one thirty Lorenzine versus the Tiger's

3151
02:35:16,680 --> 02:35:19,240
Speaker 7: bullpen game, Royal's playing role. I'll take that. Laying a

3152
02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:22,080
Speaker 7: cheap price. Pirates to Mitch Keller lane one fifteen over

3153
02:35:22,200 --> 02:35:25,199
Speaker 7: Jordan Montgomery. Montgomery's been a gab can all year. Keller's

3154
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:28,240
Speaker 7: been really really good. Basically at pick them price, I'll

3155
02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:31,480
Speaker 7: take the Pirates. Jack Flaherty laying a half run of

3156
02:35:31,480 --> 02:35:33,920
Speaker 7: the five inning line going gets Mitch Spence, I'll lay

3157
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:37,360
Speaker 7: a half run there, laying no juice clarity to me.

3158
02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:40,320
Speaker 7: In the league picture, Spence is a blow average picture.

3159
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:42,560
Speaker 7: As bad as the Dodgers have been, it's bad as

3160
02:35:42,560 --> 02:35:44,400
Speaker 7: the lineup is right now. I say they'll at least

3161
02:35:44,400 --> 02:35:46,840
Speaker 7: scored a few runs off Spence, and I'll expect Oakland

3162
02:35:46,840 --> 02:35:50,040
Speaker 7: that much success for Flarerty Clarity over seventeen and a

3163
02:35:50,040 --> 02:35:53,680
Speaker 7: half outs against Oakland, he's done this about he's really

3164
02:35:53,680 --> 02:35:55,640
Speaker 7: done this. Twelve out of sixteen starts, there was two

3165
02:35:55,640 --> 02:35:57,840
Speaker 7: starters on a pitch count. I see no reason why

3166
02:35:57,879 --> 02:35:59,640
Speaker 7: he will not pitch six tens against Oakland. I know

3167
02:35:59,640 --> 02:36:01,880
Speaker 7: it was playing much better than I think Slarty to

3168
02:36:01,879 --> 02:36:04,840
Speaker 7: get his six innings in. Aaron Savali over three and

3169
02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:08,039
Speaker 7: ath strikeouts. He's averaging five strikeouts in the Brewers fifteen

3170
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:09,960
Speaker 7: and six for the year forty three and twenty two

3171
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:13,039
Speaker 7: is the last three years. Why is this? Why is

3172
02:36:13,080 --> 02:36:15,400
Speaker 7: this only three and a half? No way should be

3173
02:36:15,400 --> 02:36:17,640
Speaker 7: at least four and a half. Big advantage. Aaron Svali

3174
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:20,800
Speaker 7: over three and a haf strikeouts. Tara Houps averaging five

3175
02:36:20,840 --> 02:36:23,240
Speaker 7: manth strikeouts. He's fourteen and seven over four and a half.

3176
02:36:23,280 --> 02:36:24,920
Speaker 7: You can get Jews taking over four and a half

3177
02:36:24,959 --> 02:36:28,280
Speaker 7: strikeouts today, Boston Red Sox, Tara Halk like that and

3178
02:36:28,400 --> 02:36:31,000
Speaker 7: last one for they gave you guys. Hunter Green under

3179
02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:33,680
Speaker 7: two and a half runs. He's pitching amazing this year.

3180
02:36:33,879 --> 02:36:36,280
Speaker 7: He's fifteen to sixty under. Giants. Don't scare me at

3181
02:36:36,280 --> 02:36:39,039
Speaker 7: all offensively, I say, Hunter Green allows zero one or two.

3182
02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:43,400
Speaker 2: Hey, great stuff. As always the Brain check it in

3183
02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:44,080
Speaker 2: the Big Brain.

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Speaker 7: I'll give you a pre season game too, Patriots. It's

3185
02:36:46,879 --> 02:36:49,119
Speaker 7: line's gone off. But the Patriots minus three I still

3186
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 7: think is good.

3187
02:36:50,240 --> 02:36:51,200
Speaker 3: Hatreds min straight.

3188
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Speaker 2: That's what Thursday Friday, it is the Thursday.

3189
02:36:56,280 --> 02:36:57,240
Speaker 7: Against the Panthers.

3190
02:36:57,280 --> 02:37:00,720
Speaker 2: Thursday gets back, Okay, Patriots, Minestra, here you go. All right,

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Speaker 2: tairaq dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: Jason fitz Kevin Figures. I'm Anthony Gargano.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we got to always thank our wonderful production team.

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Speaker 3: Uh as always.

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Speaker 2: Our technical producer Mighty Mighty Mark and our producer Brianna

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Speaker 3: And we appreciate their hard work during the program. So

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Speaker 3: thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Uh all right, boys, So, uh give me your Raider

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Speaker 2: week because this is kind of where it starts to

3206
02:37:59,120 --> 02:38:02,400
Speaker 2: kind of shape, takes form, it gets real for a

3207
02:38:02,400 --> 02:38:05,240
Speaker 2: lot of camps, right you'll lead into a preseason game,

3208
02:38:05,360 --> 02:38:06,640
Speaker 2: practices are tougher.

3209
02:38:07,280 --> 02:38:09,560
Speaker 3: Give me your Raider once.

3210
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,520
Speaker 4: I mean, somebody's got to win the quarterback job. And

3211
02:38:14,040 --> 02:38:17,760
Speaker 4: it's so unusual. We rarely go into this deep into

3212
02:38:17,800 --> 02:38:20,440
Speaker 4: a camp with a team anymore that just doesn't really

3213
02:38:20,480 --> 02:38:22,720
Speaker 4: know what they're doing at the quarterback position. I just

3214
02:38:23,200 --> 02:38:26,160
Speaker 4: it feels like Aidan O'Connell to me, is who the

3215
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:28,320
Speaker 4: organization would love to have win the job. They gave

3216
02:38:28,320 --> 02:38:30,840
Speaker 4: Gardner a contract to come in and push him. But

3217
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:33,560
Speaker 4: some people say Gardner has a slight edge right now,

3218
02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:36,640
Speaker 4: but nobody knows. What we do know is that right

3219
02:38:36,680 --> 02:38:39,480
Speaker 4: now the defense is absolutely dominating the offense in camp.

3220
02:38:39,520 --> 02:38:41,720
Speaker 4: And I think that's important because I honestly believe the

3221
02:38:41,800 --> 02:38:44,160
Speaker 4: Raiders have a chance to have a top five defense

3222
02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:46,440
Speaker 4: in the NFL this year. I think the defense could

3223
02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:48,600
Speaker 4: be great for this team. I think the quarterback play

3224
02:38:48,640 --> 02:38:50,440
Speaker 4: is gonna be abysmal all year long, and so how

3225
02:38:50,440 --> 02:38:53,000
Speaker 4: do you manage that? Can Antonio Pierce manage that? And

3226
02:38:53,360 --> 02:38:55,560
Speaker 4: how the college football mindset? Because cousin, you know this.

3227
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:58,680
Speaker 4: If a coach just starts to get wishy washy at

3228
02:38:58,680 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 4: the quarterback position immediately like that guy doesn't know what

3229
02:39:01,520 --> 02:39:03,320
Speaker 4: he's doing right, like so ap, he's gonna have to

3230
02:39:03,360 --> 02:39:05,640
Speaker 4: make a decision, to stick with the decision and then

3231
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:07,680
Speaker 4: deal with all that comes with that. I think he's

3232
02:39:07,720 --> 02:39:08,440
Speaker 4: gonna be chaos.

3233
02:39:08,680 --> 02:39:10,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, at least find somebody who are going to start

3234
02:39:10,640 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 5: at least, you know, first five, six, seven games give

3235
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:14,640
Speaker 5: him enough least to figure out what they're doing. But

3236
02:39:14,680 --> 02:39:16,800
Speaker 5: this back and forth, I've kind of already played this

3237
02:39:16,840 --> 02:39:19,119
Speaker 5: out in my mind that he's gonna start with Minshew,

3238
02:39:19,160 --> 02:39:21,160
Speaker 5: that he's gonna go to O'Connell. Then he'll put Minshew

3239
02:39:21,200 --> 02:39:23,920
Speaker 5: back in because o'connorll was making young guy mistakes. I'd

3240
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:26,440
Speaker 5: rather just have Honestly, I'd rather just put O'Connell back

3241
02:39:26,480 --> 02:39:28,039
Speaker 5: in there and see if he has some growing pains

3242
02:39:28,040 --> 02:39:30,840
Speaker 5: and maybe he improves from last season. My fear would be,

3243
02:39:31,240 --> 02:39:33,520
Speaker 5: you know, they get to mid season. DeVante Adams. We

3244
02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:36,880
Speaker 5: saw how frustrated he was in the Receiver series on Netflix.

3245
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:39,160
Speaker 5: Whether or not he's actually gonna be a Raider by

3246
02:39:39,200 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 5: the time the trade deadline comes. I'm not very optimistic

3247
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:43,280
Speaker 5: right now, to be honest, Even though I love the

3248
02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:45,360
Speaker 5: defense the prospects of the defense as much as I

3249
02:39:45,400 --> 02:39:47,800
Speaker 5: do as you do, fits, I just don't know how

3250
02:39:47,840 --> 02:39:49,400
Speaker 5: this offense is going to operate when you don't know

3251
02:39:49,400 --> 02:39:50,840
Speaker 5: what you're doing at the quarterback position.

3252
02:39:51,680 --> 02:39:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that. That keep going back to that,

3253
02:39:53,879 --> 02:39:58,600
Speaker 3: looking at it and going, I don't know. It's almost so.

3254
02:40:00,720 --> 02:40:05,360
Speaker 2: Not dysfunctional, but it makes it impossible when you don't

3255
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:06,959
Speaker 2: have a clear cut quarterback.

3256
02:40:06,560 --> 02:40:08,360
Speaker 5: And it's not like you have like when you're taking

3257
02:40:08,400 --> 02:40:10,280
Speaker 5: on Mahomes right, you know, it's like you have a

3258
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:12,360
Speaker 5: hogs up front and you can run the ball, you know,

3259
02:40:12,480 --> 02:40:14,480
Speaker 5: for two hundred yards a game or anything, you know.

3260
02:40:14,800 --> 02:40:16,920
Speaker 5: I like zamir're White. I think he's a solid player

3261
02:40:16,920 --> 02:40:18,880
Speaker 5: and could have a good year. But I don't think

3262
02:40:18,920 --> 02:40:20,240
Speaker 5: they can just lean on the run game and say

3263
02:40:20,280 --> 02:40:21,920
Speaker 5: we're going to run the ball and win games, you know,

3264
02:40:22,000 --> 02:40:24,000
Speaker 5: fourteen to ten all season long, and make the playoffs.

3265
02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:25,080
Speaker 5: I don't think that's realistic.

3266
02:40:25,560 --> 02:40:27,680
Speaker 4: No preseason's gonna matter for this team. They've got to

3267
02:40:27,680 --> 02:40:28,959
Speaker 4: see if somebody takes control.

3268
02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like as we started the program preseason, alls

3269
02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:40,760
Speaker 2: could in the preseason. Hope right, we'll be watching I

3270
02:40:40,800 --> 02:40:44,400
Speaker 2: know that, fellas. Thanks for everything, everybody, We love you.

3271
02:40:44,480 --> 02:40:45,279
Speaker 2: See you next week.