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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now a

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Speaker 1: guy who believes cracking makes the best Calamari j Peace Shadrack.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: My name's J. P. Shadrick. We have a busy show

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Speaker 1: as always on Monday. Of course, CBS Sports senior writer

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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco joining us. Pride of the Jaguars. Left tackle

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is nearby. We'll hear from him soon. The

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer aftermath continues, in fact, reviewing Week fifteen, the

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Speaker 1: Texans over the Jaguars thirty to sixteen the final score.

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Speaker 1: The Jags are number one in the draft water next year.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that, of course, social media questions and

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Speaker 1: around the NFL and Week fifteen, Welcome in again. A

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Speaker 1: wild week, of course with the Jacksonville Jaguars that started

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Speaker 1: truly last Saturday, NFL media reports about tension between the players,

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Speaker 1: the staff, and head coach Urban Meyer, and then the

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Speaker 1: next day a twenty nothing loss at Tennessee. Last Monday,

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Speaker 1: Jacks owner Shot con was meeting with select media members

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Speaker 1: on the eve of the tenth anniversary of ownership, so

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Speaker 1: he was out in the media with a lot of

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Speaker 1: things going on. NFL owners meetings in Dallas Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Times article released Wednesday afternoon, but in reality

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Speaker 1: the wheels had been in motion, and then Thursday at

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty nine am the announcement that Meyer was fired.

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday preparation under interim head coach Darryl Bevil,

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Speaker 1: and then Saturday at five pm Meyer speaking with Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport of NFL Media, apologizing to Jacksonville, denying accusations against

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Speaker 1: him in the final days. And then Sunday, a loss

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Speaker 1: to the Houston Texans with a third round rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: Texans with COVID nineteen special teams issues, dropped some few

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Speaker 1: big plays on offense. Interim head coach Darryl Bevil after

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Speaker 1: the game, you know, it really what really ends up

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Speaker 1: being a normal week. I mean, we're used to all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things that change, and so we have to

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Speaker 1: be ready to um to make adjustments and uh and

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Speaker 1: and be able to adapt to the situation and thought

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Speaker 1: our guys, whether it was the players or the coaches,

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Speaker 1: did a good job putting a plan together. Um, the

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Speaker 1: guys were the guys were ready, they were into it. Um,

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Speaker 1: we just didn't play a clean football game today. That's

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Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil of course. Pete Presco joining us now CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports senior writer, And a good afternoon, Pete. What a

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Speaker 1: week it's been. Man. Where where's the big fellow? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. He's apparently nearby. He said he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a few minutes behind. He had something going on and

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Speaker 1: he'll be in here. Well, maybe it's having that needing

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Speaker 1: to try and become the general manager. I see that.

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Speaker 1: You think that's what they haven't even got. They haven't

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Speaker 1: even got rid of the new gentleman. The old gentleman.

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Speaker 1: He's already sniffing around. It's a cold business. You like

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Speaker 1: stirring it up, Pete, I know how you do. I

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Speaker 1: sure do, boy, I started up for a while, didn't I. Look. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I was not surprised he

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Speaker 1: got fired. Uh should he have been fired? Yes, he

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Speaker 1: should have been fired. Um. How many different ways did

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Speaker 1: I just think that the whole thing got out of control,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's unfair, Like I went on my my

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Speaker 1: rant last week, it's unfair to the fans to have

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Speaker 1: this happen again, and you can't allow it to happen again.

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Speaker 1: So now he's gone. Uh, they have to go find

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Speaker 1: the right guy to build this thing around that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And and the quarterback has regressed. And I watched the

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Speaker 1: tape today and he missed some throws, and his mechanics

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Speaker 1: have waned, and his feet aren't great, and like the

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Speaker 1: his aiming point was bad. There's all these little things

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Speaker 1: it's a combination of a bunch of different reasons why.

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Speaker 1: But now you move forward and find the guy to

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Speaker 1: fix them, find the guy to to build it around him,

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Speaker 1: And I think they can. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: don't get caught up in name. That's all I have

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Speaker 1: to say. They've played that game before. Look, they played

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Speaker 1: at this time Urban Meyer, the name, the name of

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Speaker 1: think Sean Kot admitted his mistake by firing him. And

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Speaker 1: this franchise. Laughing stock again. Hate to say it, but

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Speaker 1: same thing happen over and over again? What do you

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Speaker 1: Who do you rely on? Who do you lean on?

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Speaker 1: Who do you call for advice? That's the million dollar

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Speaker 1: question right now, because I don't think Shod Khan can

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Speaker 1: do it himself. That's a big question for sure. Pete

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Speaker 1: Priska with us Tony Boselli coming up here on Jaguar's

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. How about the aftermath of this the last

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Speaker 1: are happening with the urban and you know, try this

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Speaker 1: football team is trying to move forward and get some

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Speaker 1: things done. They didn't play obviously well on Sunday. It's

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Speaker 1: just a lot flying around right now, including Tony Boselli,

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Speaker 1: including walking through the rocking right in front of the camera.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Donty, don't worry about us. We're just doing

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Speaker 1: a show here. Welcome to the show, Tony. Well, this

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Speaker 1: show is much better now that I'm here, Pete. Less

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Speaker 1: of you, more of me. How did it? How did

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Speaker 1: it go? Tony? How do the interview go for the

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Speaker 1: GM job to go? Well? That was the meeting you

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Speaker 1: were at, right, Are you gonna give me a no? No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: He was chopping and he was chopping a tree down.

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Speaker 1: It's cold. Look at jacket, he's got it. Yeah. Your

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Speaker 1: lumberjack today is what it is. He started Christmas Jack.

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Speaker 1: Is it cold? It's freezing outside. Yeah, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to rub it. It was eighty two today here, so

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Speaker 1: it's not bad. Yeah. I was. It was eighty two

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Speaker 1: hanging out. Now it's cold, Pete, And I've become a Florida.

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Speaker 1: I've become a Floridian, like I don't like the cold.

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Speaker 1: Don't like cold, neither do I. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: speaking of cold, uh, they got a cold body out

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Speaker 1: they cleaned it out and I got tony. I said already,

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Speaker 1: I said, they gave him. I give shod Koh credit

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Speaker 1: for admitting his mistake. He deserves the merits for making

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Speaker 1: best decision for the franchise. He made, made the decision

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Speaker 1: different ways did we say it on here or I

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Speaker 1: um that he had to go. Well, Pete, I think

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Speaker 1: you bring up a really good point, and I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that that's not that was not an easy decision for

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Speaker 1: just get rid of him. He's a bad coach, he's

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Speaker 1: yes he got it wrong. That's never like no one

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Speaker 1: when you invest a lot of time and money and energy,

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Speaker 1: like there's I always try to remind people it's like

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Speaker 1: Shot Cohn wants to win, like that's the goal, Like

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Speaker 1: he is, like he is trying his best. Now you

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Speaker 1: care what anyone says and like, oh he was a

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Speaker 1: bad guy and you have cause this or whatever, blah blah, blah.

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Speaker 1: There's an emotion, there's an emotional side to it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Pete. I applaud shot. It was a

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Speaker 1: tough decision. It was the right decision in my mind

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Speaker 1: When you're the guy who has to do it and

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Speaker 1: It's not embarrassing because he's above that. He's too good

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Speaker 1: a man, he's above being embarrassed. But it's a bad

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Speaker 1: look for the organization to keep missing on your head

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Speaker 1: greatest of the great. He got bamboozled about Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: He got caught up. It's like I always say about players,

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Speaker 1: it's game, not named, game not named. They got caught

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. It's not that he's like it's embarrassing,

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Speaker 1: business person if he wasn't like uber comp editive, like

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Speaker 1: Like he is really dangn good at business, like and

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Speaker 1: like makes tough calls and and like makes the right

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Speaker 1: work out and it impacts. It's not about him be embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: won't have to talk about it anymore. Well, there will

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Speaker 1: one quick thing, Tony. The mechanism for getting rid of

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Speaker 1: Then it was the end of it and went away.

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Speaker 1: He is right now the playing where he had Odiot

425
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Speaker 1: or Shaughnessy on the sideline that bubble playing designed. They

426
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Speaker 1: faked the bubble screen and they wrut him up the sideline.

427
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Speaker 1: So what do they do now they go back and

428
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: run the bubble screen about fourteen more times the rest

429
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Speaker 1: of I mean, look, I could to size the offense

430
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Speaker 1: all your want. I just you know how I feel

431
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: about that. But he is regressing because the design of offense,

432
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: because receivers don't win, because he's getting hit, and because

433
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: he just hasn't improved. He's not And that's the most

434
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Speaker 1: asserting thing. Would you agree, he's just not accurate right now?

435
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: His mechanics Tonty, Yeah, yeah. If you watch the throw,

436
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw time, step into it, step

437
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: into it. It's a touchdown. His body is going one way,

438
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: his arms going the other. It's a terrible mechanics are terrible.

439
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: By the way, that Week one touchdown was a past

440
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 1: deep left to DJ chart. I remember that against Houston,

441
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: far corner of the end zone, away from where the

442
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: booth is going right to left. That's correct, back right

443
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, that's correct. And then he

444
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: threw another touchdown past the man hurts in that game,

445
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: didn't he Yeah, he had three in that game, so

446
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: he has nine for the year. So he was on

447
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: he was on pace for fifty something. He had five

448
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Speaker 1: in the first three weeks of the season and then four.

449
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: That's a problem. Yeah, big problem. And he's part of

450
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: the problem. You know, I didn't I like when I

451
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: say that's a problem. He's part of including that problem.

452
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: Are you worried about him? Yes, I'm worried about everything.

453
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Speaker 1: I'm worried, Pete. How can you not be worried about

454
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: him not being that guy? Pete, we're one in fifteen

455
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: last year, we're two and twelve right now. That means

456
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Speaker 1: we're three And that's not what I'm asking You know,

457
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: you're missing my point. I'm worried about everything. Are you

458
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: worried he's not the guy? No, I still think he's

459
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: the guy. I do too, But I'm worried about everything.

460
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: But I think he's the guy. I'm betting on him.

461
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: But again, everything else you can worry about. If he

462
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: ain't the guy, that's another five six years in garbage. Pete,

463
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: let's not talking about that right now. By the way,

464
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: that fifty eight yard passed, the longest of the season

465
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Speaker 1: for him, was against Tennessee Um and it was a

466
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Speaker 1: past deep left to Leviscu should already ran out of

467
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Speaker 1: bounds fifty eight yards And that came October was that

468
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: the underneath crossing that he random Almost deep left is

469
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Speaker 1: what it says, deep left. I don't remember remember that

470
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: either de levisca should all would be an aberration. So

471
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: maybe it was that ran all the way across the

472
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Speaker 1: field that must have been in. That's not deep deep.

473
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Speaker 1: I'm just doing what an official book says. Yeah, I

474
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Speaker 1: just don't mean, come on, Pete, don't get on JP.

475
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: It's Eze fault. He's just reading I know he's reading.

476
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm not getting on JPM saying whoever put that stat

477
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: down in there, they described the play was wrong, wasn't

478
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Speaker 1: deep left? Peter? Are you concerned about Trevor? No? No,

479
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean he could put anybody in this system right

480
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: now and with that pool of receivers in that offensive line,

481
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: and he's not going to succeed. No, I'm not. But

482
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: what I'm concerned with, though, is the fact that through

483
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: the processes mechanics have waned and his accuracy is worse,

484
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Speaker 1: and he's not getting through his progressions as fast even

485
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: as he did earlier in the season. Yeah, he's going backwards,

486
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. He's going the wrong direct and

487
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: he took and I think he's taken easy throws rather

488
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: than letting one fit in there and take it. Like

489
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: for example, and you see, if you remember this play,

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Speaker 1: he took one in the middle of the field I

491
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: think Dey Shaughnessy on third down and it was third

492
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Speaker 1: and whatever, and he got to three yards short of

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Speaker 1: the first down in the middle of the field. He

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Speaker 1: had and I can't remember who it was on the

495
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: deep cross and he all he had to do was

496
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Speaker 1: fit it in there. And it's a twenty yards shot

497
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. He didn't take it.

498
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: He took the easier throw. And I'm seeing more and

499
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: more of that which is concerned. Well, everything that you're saying, yeah,

500
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: I think I knew. But the other thing that stood out,

501
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: it stood out to me the last few weeks is

502
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: his uh jumping this in the pocket a little bit.

503
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Like the protection has not been great, let's be clear,

504
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: but it's been when it's good. Sometimes he's still moving around,

505
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: going into trouble instead of just being calm and sitting

506
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: there and taking a you know, hitch up, step up

507
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: and letting it fly. And so there's just a bunch

508
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: of stuff that makes you concerned. But I'm still a believer.

509
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm still doubling down. I'll double down right now on him.

510
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example on something. On something

511
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: you watched New England play the other night against the Colts,

512
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: Dick Colts didn't sniff mac Jones every single time he

513
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: went back to throw, he had to clean one of

514
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: the cleanest because the Colts aren't a great pass for

515
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: his team anyways, But his pockets were amaze singing that game.

516
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: I mean, a few teams have pockets like that, but

517
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has a pocket like that. He's gonna hit somebody.

518
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna if you give give him Hunter Henry and

519
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: John hu Smith and the creativity of Josh Mthaniels and

520
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: that offensive line. With that pocket, Trevor Lawrence will look

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Speaker 1: out standing. Pete, you know the storyline the next two

522
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Speaker 1: weeks is gonna be the quarterback matchups Zack Wilson, Mac

523
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Jones versus Trevor Lawrence fair or not this well and

524
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: and Zack Wilson is another one that hasn't looked good

525
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: in large part because of who's around him. I mean,

526
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: think about think about the situations. Two situations matter for

527
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Speaker 1: young quarterback. If you took Mac Jones, who's a Jacksonville kid,

528
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Speaker 1: put him with the Jaguars, and put Trevor Lawrence with

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Trevor Larns will be every bit is good,

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Speaker 1: if not better than Mac Jones, and Mac Jones will

531
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Speaker 1: be struggling like Trevor Lawrence. That's the reality of it.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a time out. We'll come back a little

533
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: defensive talk. We'll come back around with the quarterback Tony

534
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: all right, we might need to keep the camera on

535
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: for a live looking during the time out top plating

536
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: ahead of course, we'll take a look at the draft

537
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: order that has changed in our weekly draft segments since

538
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have been eliminated. Of course, the second Hour,

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Speaker 1: Your Soldier Questions and much more Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. The main thing we try to

541
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Speaker 1: focus only just haven't I think that's one of the

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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: most important uh who as you need as a DV

543
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: to know, have good eye mixture, your eyes and receives.

544
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: There's a case he does a double move where actlexis

545
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: duckings and take off. So that's the main thing he

546
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: preached was h have a good eyes and don't let

547
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Speaker 1: the ball. Uh, get over our heads. It's Tyson Campbell,

548
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: rookie cornerback and welcome back at Shaguar's Happy Hour on

549
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Speaker 1: a Monday afternoon, J P. Shadrick with Pete Priscoe and

550
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli recapping a Jags loss to the Houston Texans

551
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: thirty to sixteen. The final score the Texans are three

552
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: and eleven, two of those wins against the Jags. Jags

553
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: are two and twelve. And we'll get to the draft

554
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: order coming up. You probably know what it is by now.

555
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: In the two teams we've beaten have winning records. That's right,

556
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: an FC east upon its Dolphins and Bills. Because the

557
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Dolphins won again, correct, they did, they rallied. They don't

558
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: have a winning record though, what are they? Seven and seven? Yeah?

559
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: They're right there? Okay, so every I mean my point

560
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: is two sweet beat or five and have a winning record.

561
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: You think you think what about the Bills? What about

562
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins? What do you think the Dolphins and the

563
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: Bills are thinking right now? After look watching us lose

564
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: to the Texans with eleven guys on the COVID list,

565
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: seven starters out, I mean, what are they thinking that?

566
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Like what how did we? What? What? What? What happened? Hello?

567
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: How did this happen? Particularly the Bills? I mean the

568
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: jag scored to combined thirty two points in those games.

569
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: Three was the high watermark against Miami. You understand, twenty

570
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: three the high watermark for the yeason? Yes, I understand.

571
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: And you had to kick to fifty yards from from Oxford,

572
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: England to win the game. So are we the low

573
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: do we have the we have to have the we

574
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Speaker 1: have to be the lowest scoring offense in the NFL.

575
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Now after that last week because the the Texans outscored,

576
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: put dirty on the board. I know the Texans were,

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00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: we were point two points more. It was thirteen eight

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: six four eight to fourteen. We went up though, Yeah

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00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: we did because we scored sixteen. Yeah, so were That's

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00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: how we were. We over achieved. It's it's really um

581
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: who was that feet? I mean they lost the Buffalo.

582
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo has doubled the scoring after Buffalo lost to them.

583
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 1: Defense had an epic day. That's why. Well let's talk

584
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: about the defense, because overall this defense has done a

585
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: good job this year. I mean even yesterday, I mean

586
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: the Texas stink one was a kick return the last

587
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: at the end of bubble screen. I mean it's like

588
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: it's so I mean, you don't want that to happen,

589
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: but the reality is they held him under three y yards.

590
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: They gotta turn over. I mean, like, like the defense,

591
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: I give Joe Coleen credit. It will be interesting to

592
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: see what happens with whoever the new coach in, because

593
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna clean house on the offensive side, Like,

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00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I think that's like that's my I don't I mean,

595
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know anything, but my guess is when you

596
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: have the worst offense in the history of the franchise

597
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: and one of the worst in the history of the NFL,

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00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna clean house. It'll be interesting to see

599
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: what they might clean house on the defensive side too.

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00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't be he might, but I

601
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: would argue, Joe Cohen has done a good job with

602
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: this you so if you have a good defensive corner,

603
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: why would you rid of him? And by the way,

604
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: the guy that he was speaking speaking at the podium

605
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: before when we played the sound, he's gotten ten times better.

606
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: He's gotten better, he's improved. The season is going most

607
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: improved player of the year and he's going to be good. Yeah,

608
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: you can tell he's going to be good. So that's

609
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: a big hit for them. That well, we'll give him

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00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: credit for that. That's I mean, that's the big hit

611
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: so far. He right now, he's the best rookie. That's

612
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: a bad thing though, that is a bad thing. He's

613
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: one of two that have played first. It's another bad

614
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: Walker Little play Walker little plate on Sunday he did yesterday.

615
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: That's right. It was better what happened to Cam Robinson

616
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: by the way, strained neck day to day. But aren't

617
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: we all So what do you think of Walker little?

618
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: Before we get to the defense, I don't want to

619
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: He was better. He still doesn't take great angles on

620
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: his sets, still doesn't use his hands like he like

621
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: lets him get into the body too much. He got

622
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: off balance on the one play where the guy went

623
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: around him. It looked like am I wrong about that?

624
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: Where you like he let him get into him and

625
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: then he kind of fell and he went around because

626
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: he took a terrible set, he like opened up the gate,

627
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: didn't get it. I mean, it was just terrible, the

628
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: whole thing. But he was better. You can see he's improving.

629
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Speaker 1: He's working at it like he's a big strong dude. Um,

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Speaker 1: I might, I'm if Cam, I mean, if Cam's healthy,

631
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: I might start walking a little right tackle. You said

632
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Speaker 1: that going into the game yesterday, find out what he

633
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: can do. How about this putting the guard he's a

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Speaker 1: big old sucker. Well, yeah, because the left garden very good. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's got me back. And he's he

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Speaker 1: talking about a guy who looks like he went off

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Speaker 1: the career cliff. He's not playing as well. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: young uns, how did Cisco play yesterday? Of the snaps

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Speaker 1: on defense, getting eyes, open field tack, nothing stood out

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Speaker 1: to me like there was nothing remarkable, nothing bad though either,

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Speaker 1: like I'm looking forward to. Just if you're playing on

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Speaker 1: the back end, that's good. If it's nothing bad, that's

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Speaker 1: I agree. But I want to go back and watch

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Speaker 1: him like specifically, because I didn't watch specifically him every play. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. While I mean, the thing that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me watching our defense is where's Josh Allen?

647
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Speaker 1: Like what happened? Like, where do you go? Josh Allen?

648
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: Not start the game? He did not? Why? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't told it was smoot and Chase On were

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00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: the starters. That's what I saw when I'm watching the tape.

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Speaker 1: I started watching the tape and I saw that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he wasn't in on the first two plays

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Speaker 1: in the game. I don't remember how many plas. I

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Speaker 1: know it was the first one for sure, that's all

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Speaker 1: I know. But where's he gone? And I said, I

656
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Speaker 1: said this this morning? But why did he? I don't know?

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Speaker 1: Why did he start? I don't know, Pete, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know you're in the press. Why don't you guys

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Speaker 1: ask the coaches those questions? Because I'm not there. I

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Speaker 1: don't cover that team on a daj P. Why did

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Speaker 1: you ask the question? Why did he start? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Today was a virtual press. You could have you could

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Speaker 1: have asked the question. That's embarrassing, JP. You could have also,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I have a different role. I'm not an interviewer.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a press conference guy. I'm a commentator. I

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Speaker 1: will say I will say this, Josh, my buddy, maybe

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Speaker 1: one of my buddies in the Jacksuo media'll text me

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Speaker 1: right now and they know the answer to that, why

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Speaker 1: why didn't he start? So? But here's the thing I said,

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Speaker 1: this is morning, Peter want your action because the question

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Speaker 1: this morning on Dan and Jeff Show is like where

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Speaker 1: is Josh Allen? Like where did he go? Like he's

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00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: not been productively And my comment was, I think where

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Speaker 1: I've landed with Josh Allen. Josh Allen's a nice player.

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00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: He's a good player like you like he's a positive

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00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: impact on your team. But he's not a difference maker.

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy who's gonna take over the game

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00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: and reek just wreck Havoca. No. No, he's not going

679
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: to take over the game and dominate. No, Miles Garrett, No,

680
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: he's not that. He's just a nice player. I will

681
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: say this about Josh Allen. He has been on the

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Speaker 1: injury report for a number of weeks with a shoulder.

683
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Speaker 1: Just say everyone's hurt JP. I'm just saying he was

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Speaker 1: credited with four hurries though I think if I'm not mistaken,

685
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Speaker 1: which I don't remember, I gotta. I haven't watched it

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Speaker 1: defensive tape except for the first couple of plays. But

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Speaker 1: I watched I did not see. I watched the tape today.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see anything like nothing, Like I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he played bad I'm talking difference maker. I'm talking a

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: guy Like when you turn on the tape and you

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00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: play offensive line this league, You're like, oh, you know what,

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00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I gotta block that dude. Like you're watching tape into

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Speaker 1: the wee hours of the night to try to figure

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Speaker 1: out to block that guy. Like I remember nine people

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Speaker 1: when we played Buffalo and Bruce Smith was defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year. I watched every game like grinding, trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out I'm gonna block this guy because he

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Speaker 1: was dominant. That's not Josh Allen. That's Myles Garrett, that's

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, that's t J. Watt, like those guys Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, like these guys like you like watch tape,

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Speaker 1: but you're grinding, like okay, what I need to figure out?

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00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Like what does he do? That's not Josh Allen right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, what does he have five and have sacks?

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Speaker 1: That that? I mean, he's a good I want him

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Speaker 1: on my team. I'm not trying to kick him. Well,

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Speaker 1: don't worry, they got the number one overall pick. They

707
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Speaker 1: can get another defensive end. But be am I wrong

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Speaker 1: with that? I mean, he's not a difference. No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: There's here's why. There are certain guys that play hard

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Speaker 1: and play tough, and they'll get you eight or nine

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Speaker 1: sacks a year. Then there are guys that are special

712
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: that play hard and play tough and have the physical

713
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Speaker 1: explosive ability in the hands and everything else to get

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Speaker 1: themselves fifteen sacks. Josh Allen is more of the first group.

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Speaker 1: He might get the nine ten eleven sacks from playing hard,

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Speaker 1: playing tough play, but he's not gonna explosively blow by

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Speaker 1: people on a continual basis. And that's the difference. Like,

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Speaker 1: if he's the second end opposite Miles Garrett, he'd be

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Speaker 1: really a good player. If he was the second end

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Speaker 1: opposite Nick Bosa, he'd be a really dynamic But is

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Speaker 1: he is he like Crosby at the Raiders, He's I

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Speaker 1: mean Crosby's like, that's a dude that plays hard and

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Speaker 1: disrupts football games, right that. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: was he better than way? I think they're like, they're

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Speaker 1: good hard players that you want your team. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna take over games. And I'd argue that

727
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: Yannick takes over games more because he creates fumbles. Yannique

728
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: is a better pass rusher and worst run player. Josh

729
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Allen is a better run player and the worst pass

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Speaker 1: rush right, But like you look at like Max Crosby,

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Speaker 1: Like there's a name I'm like everyone says when you're

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Speaker 1: talking about Miles Garrett, like the top end guys. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby or what's the what's his first name? Is

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Speaker 1: a Max? Yeah? Max? Yeah? Max Crosby defensive end for

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. The dude just takes over games, like he disrupts.

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Speaker 1: He beats people up. He's hitting the cornerback like you

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Speaker 1: know where he is when you sign up, Like when

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Speaker 1: you get on the film and you watch you like, um, okay,

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Speaker 1: see whatever number is number he is, Like we gotta

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Speaker 1: block him, Like watch him, he's good. I gotta block him,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't see that in Josh. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be this year. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're up against the people's let's take a

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00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: quick time out. We'll come back, we'll continue this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we'll get back to the offense. We'll get

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Speaker 1: back to the aftermath of the Urban Meyer. Let's go

747
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: back back and forth back and forth. That's what we

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Speaker 1: do all over the place. We're back in a moment

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Speaker 1: Veterans choose v A for the benefits you earned visit

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00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: Hour presented by Jed home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network.

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00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Pumpkin spice. Pumpkin spice, that's what

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Speaker 1: I smell. It's very good. This is the I had

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Speaker 1: so far. Elliot, Huh, how's that diet been going well?

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Speaker 1: I didn't in all honestly, p JP, this is the

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Speaker 1: first thing I've eatn all day today. No breakfast, no lunch, nothing.

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Speaker 1: You're withering away. I can't imagine that being true. I'll

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Speaker 1: give you my word. Nothing. You're you're you're lying like

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00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: you wing from that building. Why would I like? I listen,

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Speaker 1: I had crackers and freedoms. It's not like I'm saying

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00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: I'm eating celery and broccoli. I'm eating friedos crackers. If

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Speaker 1: anybody would be hungry, the definition would be him. But

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Speaker 1: whatever reason I got, he wasn't that angry. Was he

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00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: because I got busy? I got busy? Beeat next thing?

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Speaker 1: We've seen him hungry? But this was not that Ryan eaton.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try not to eat and

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Speaker 1: see if I can just lose weight if you're fasting,

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Speaker 1: if you don't eat till later in the day. By

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Speaker 1: the way, there, that's what I did. They're like intermediate fast,

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Speaker 1: just eat when you're hungry, intermediate fast, interm intermediate intermediate fasting. Tony.

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Speaker 1: Tony's gonna have the intermediate fasting diet where he eats

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Speaker 1: every fifteen minute. Oh hey, you know we promised when

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are eliminated from playoff contention that we would

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Speaker 1: have a draft segment, and here it is. Tonight. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are now number one and the two draft order.

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions knocked off the Arizona Cardinals to get

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Speaker 1: their second win of the season. They are to eleven

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Speaker 1: and one. The Jaguars are now two and twelve and

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Speaker 1: they have the inside track to the number one pick

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Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. Peak. You know that I was

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Speaker 1: watching it all play out in front of me yesterday

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Speaker 1: in our green room, and I turned to one of

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Speaker 1: my guys and I go, this is where I'm different

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Speaker 1: than like a guy like Tony Vasselli. Tomorrow when I

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Speaker 1: do this show, because I'm sitting here thinking, it's actually

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00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: not a bad thing that they've lost on Sunday and

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Speaker 1: the Lions, because now you have the number one overall

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Speaker 1: pick again. Well just shaking his head. Well, I'll actually

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00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: say this, Pete. If you're gonna be bad and this bad,

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00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: just stay like, be the worst, because I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: the first overall picked in the second, third or fourth.

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Speaker 1: That way, I don't pick anyone I want. So it's

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Speaker 1: a good thing that they lost on Sunday. Well, it depends.

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Speaker 1: It depends where you're sitting. If you're a player, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not good. If your coach is not good. I'm

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00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: at the point now. It also depends on who they're picking.

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Speaker 1: Who's doing the picking. I don't know who it is,

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Speaker 1: do you No? I don't either. But and then we

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Speaker 1: gotta get it. We're gonna get into some of that

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Speaker 1: futures talking a second. But as far as the draft,

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Speaker 1: who if I'm gonna try and move it and get

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Speaker 1: more picks, Let's say you can't move. You can't move it.

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Speaker 1: Who you picking? You're stuck with the number one pick? Ah,

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Speaker 1: who you picking? That's for me, it's tough. And here's

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Speaker 1: why I think I'm taking Hutchinson. But I worry about

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson versus the kid in Oregon because the kid in

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Speaker 1: Oregon has so much more athletic ability and and bigger

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Speaker 1: I think, or not as big, And he says about

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Speaker 1: the same size I think, But Hutchinson he's not as tall.

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Speaker 1: But Hutchinson has all the moves and all the technique

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Speaker 1: and everything else where. He dominates college lineman. But Tony,

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Speaker 1: you would know this better than me. If you have

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Speaker 1: an athletic freak versus a guy with all the tricks

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Speaker 1: that knows how to use them, who would you rather block? Well,

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Speaker 1: an athletic freak who doesn't know how to rush, it's

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Speaker 1: the easy guy to block, in my opinion, like he

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00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: just goes up the field. But what about an athletic

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Speaker 1: freak who knows how to rush but he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a problem. That's a really good player. But I've heard

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson's is a really good athlete, Like he runs four six,

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Speaker 1: great vertical. I heard the kids a great athlete. Here's

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Speaker 1: my concern with Hutchinson a little bit. And I've watched

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Speaker 1: some of this tape. I love him, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 1: Where was he? I think he got hurt in COVID.

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00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: He got hurt when he had COVID last year. He

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Speaker 1: had two years ago. But what he did play, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't as dominant, and that always worries me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We have reached the conclusion of our number one plenty

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Speaker 1: more ahead hour two of Jaguars Happy Hour coming up,

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Speaker 1: presented by Jet Home Loans on the Jaguars Digital Network.

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Speaker 1: That's really not my focus right now. Right now, I

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Speaker 1: know it's death, you know. Coach Bethsura our head coach,

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Speaker 1: and um, everything else is still intact, and that's what

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Speaker 1: we're that's what we'll focus on moving forward and just

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Speaker 1: trying to get better. As you know, I thought we Um,

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Speaker 1: we moved the ball out better on offense today it's

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Speaker 1: the seventh right direction. But we just gotta make plays

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Speaker 1: down the streets. We know, and when we meet him

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Speaker 1: third fourth quarter, UM, I gotta I gotta make the throws.

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Speaker 1: Guys that made the catches. It's all of us, you know,

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Speaker 1: we gotta make more plays. I missed a big throw

842
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: on third down, UM, like eight minutes left from the

843
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, so um, but I mean it was it

844
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: was nice to see us moving the ball again like

845
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: we like we were earlier in the year, so when

846
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: that was a step in the right direction, but we

847
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: just gotta we gotta finish. That's Trevor Lawrence of course

848
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday, and welcome back. It's the second

849
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon, j P. Shadrick,

850
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco recapping Jaguars lost to the Houston Texans,

851
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: the first game since the departure of head coach Urban Meyer.

852
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: He was fired late Wednesday night Thursday morning, a little

853
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: after twelve thirty am, and the aftermath of at and

854
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: the remaining days of the week led into this game.

855
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: That's now the sixth consecutive loss for the Jaguars, and

856
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: they've now lost eight in a row against the Houston

857
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: Texans and they were swept this year again by the

858
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: Texans team. This Texans team, of all teams, it's a

859
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: totally different team from Week one as well, and they

860
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: still put thirty on the board against the Jags yesterday.

861
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: Defensive starters were down with COVID yesterday for Houston special

862
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: teams struggles for the Jaguars, to say, the least, the

863
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: offense was better relative to really bad, and the defense

864
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: had some moments battle around right now for the Jags

865
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: though three games to go, though, the Jaguars had the

866
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: inside track to the number one overall pick in the

867
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Up next a quarterback battle the top two

868
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: from the draft going head to head next week and

869
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: Met Life Stadium Trevor Lawrence and the two and twelve

870
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: Jags Zack Wilson in the three and eleven New York

871
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Jets Christmas in Jersey? Are you done talking it? Yes?

872
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: That was a long and I mean I got really

873
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: was doing. The show was Holy cow? JP breath, It's

874
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: not the JP show we talk we talking about like,

875
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, you can talk anything else you want to read,

876
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: I'll just you know, sit back and kick back and relax.

877
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: I really like I was reading Twitter, Pete, and I

878
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: forgot that I was on the show because I'm like,

879
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: JPS just reading for ten minutes. You're here? What were

880
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: you hearing? BA? I heard my bad, bad, bad bad Charlie.

881
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: We're kidding, JP. I'm not. I'm not kidding. I literally

882
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: checked out. Actually, I thought I was like in another

883
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: world and what show is this? Yeah? Back, you guys

884
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: go for I don't worry. JP will do it all right,

885
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: shut off his mike. It's cool, man. The issues here,

886
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm on the desk. Does shot con need an advisor

887
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: to help him in the coaching search? The shot Khan

888
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: need an advisor? Um? I think we all need advisors JP,

889
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean not jppte and JP. UM from the standpoint,

890
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: I think we need individuals that we trust, that we

891
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: can bounce things off of and help us through the process.

892
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: And so if that and UM, yeah, so I guess

893
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: the short answers yes, And I think if I was

894
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: in shot shoes, I'd evaluate how I got to this

895
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: point and do it just do it different. And I'm

896
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: half joking there, how many different ways has he done

897
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: it already? Though? Think about that? Well, not half joke,

898
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: you're not half joking. Well, well, here's the thing. Has

899
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: he done it different? He's hired different people, different types,

900
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: but he's been at the centerpiece of making the final call.

901
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: And and now, in fairness, the shot I don't know

902
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: his process. I don't know if anyone really knows the

903
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: process of and maybe he is listening to people. So

904
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: this is me takes taking some liberties um based on

905
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: what I know, which is not a complete picture, to

906
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: be clear. So he might be. But my perception is

907
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: my perception is Pete is that he gets people, he

908
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: interviews them, and then he makes the choice. Right, I

909
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: mean that's I mean, that's all we know, at least,

910
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: I mean JB didn't know anything else. That's all. Well,

911
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: let's take the Urban Meyer hiring. Okay, there was a

912
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: little bit of an infatuation there. They clearly at one

913
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: point last year decided he was going to be the guy,

914
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: probably earlier than probably earlier than any of us realized.

915
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: It was during the season, they knew and what led

916
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: him to that. Now I've heard that Trent actually was

917
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: all in favor of I don't know if that's true

918
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: or not, but I and I don't know where their

919
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: their connection comes from. So he leaned on Trent for

920
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: that advice, and then once he heard an interview, and

921
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Urban's track record obviously stood on its own. It's not

922
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: like you need to get convinced of it once you

923
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: sit down with him, if you like, if you probably

924
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: hire him. Yeah, But that's where I disagree. Pe Pete.

925
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: I hear, let me stop you there and this is

926
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: where I and I don't know if and he could

927
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: have done this. I don't know if he did or not,

928
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: but I know this. I had a bunch of people

929
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: calling me unsolicited, by the by the way, once it

930
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: got out that we were thinking about hiring Irban Meyer,

931
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: saying that's not a good decision, like, don't hire him.

932
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, so I was getting that now unsolicited. I

933
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: had nothing to do the process, and so I would think,

934
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know this, but if I'm shot, I

935
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: am picking up the phone and calling people and diving

936
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: in deep doing the deep dive. We've heard that for

937
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: a while, is really asking the questions. No different then,

938
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: like as you, I'm like, when you he made the

939
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: decision to go Trent Balky, is your GM? I mean,

940
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: if it's me, my recommend is like I pick up

941
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: the phone and I start dialing for dollars to figure out.

942
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I want to know everything about this. And so I

943
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: guess my point in saying this moving forward, If I

944
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: was him, I think like he maybe already has an advisor.

945
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't I don't know enough

946
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: about the process to speak to that one way or another. Pete,

947
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, I would pick up that phone

948
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: and I'd call and I do a lot of have

949
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: a lot of phone call conversations with people who have

950
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: nothing to gain by like whether no matter what they

951
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: say about the person, Like I want to know the truth.

952
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: Like like if I'm like perfect example Pete, Like if

953
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go call and like have questions about JP,

954
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call people that know JP, that've worked with JP,

955
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: been around JP, and don't get anything out of JP

956
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: getting the job or not getting the job, Like I

957
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: just want to know, Like tell me, I'll tell you

958
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: about all about JP. You all about JP? But you

959
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: know what you mean, Tony. But but I'm gonna give you.

960
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the other side of that. Jimmy

961
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: Johnson came out yesterday I don't know if you saw

962
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: it and defended Urban Meyer. He's friends with him. Jimmy

963
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: Johnson is a respected football guy. If Shot Khan called

964
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, excuse me and said, hey, I'm thinking about

965
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: hiring Irban Meyer, what do you think I want to

966
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: talk to you? Go talk to him. He talks to him.

967
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: He says, Oh, this guy's a great coach. He does this, this,

968
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: and this. Well, there's a reference. If he called Belichick

969
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: and I know they have utmost respect for Belichick Belichick

970
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: and urban Meyer friendly, excuse me, friendly, he'd give him

971
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: a good recommendation. So there's two recommendations. Great, I'm gonna

972
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: have I gonna call the University of Florida and asked

973
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: people who worked with him every day, because guess what,

974
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: urban Meyer has never worked with Bill Belichick and has

975
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: never worked with Jimmy Johnson. So that's fine. Guess what,

976
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: they don't know Urban Johnson at all. Urban Meyer. They

977
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson like knew him from afar and like probably

978
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: went to some dinners like awards ceremonies and hung out

979
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: like they don't know him. Like, go call the people

980
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: who worked with them, Go call the secretary, Like I'll

981
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: never forget John Robinson, my coach at USC the last

982
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: couple of years. He said, like he said something that's

983
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: stuck into me forever. And he had like and I've

984
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: said this story for he had like three rules, play hard,

985
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: be on time. And the third rule was the thing

986
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: that impacted me the most. He says, you better treat

987
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: everybody in the building with respect and you better treat

988
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: the secretary the same way you treat me, and you

989
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: better seat the jamitor the same way you treat me,

990
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: because if you don't, that tells me who you are,

991
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: and I don't want you on my team. I tell

992
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: that stories. Go call the people that urban Meyer worked

993
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: with every day, and what do they say about him.

994
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: Not with Jimmy Johnson, and I like Jimmy Johnson and

995
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, great coach. They never have worked with him.

996
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: They don't know and I'll and I'll go one step

997
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: further with the same kind of line of thinking about respect.

998
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: The people in the building treat him with respect. Every

999
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: personnel guy scout I've ever talked to, says when they

1000
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: go to a school, they don't want to get the

1001
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: information from what the coach will say because he's gonna

1002
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: pump the guy up. He wants him to get to

1003
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. It helps him. They go talk to the

1004
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: strength coach, they go talk to the secretaries, the council,

1005
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: talked to the support staff, they talked to uh, the

1006
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: cafeteria workers. That's where you find out all about the guy.

1007
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: And so, Tony, you are spot on. They should have

1008
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: went to Florida. They should have went to Ohio State.

1009
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: They should have went a bunch of different places, talked

1010
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: to agents people and how is he when you deal

1011
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: with them? And they would have found out what everybody

1012
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville found out when he was inside the building.

1013
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: He makes people miserable. I mean, I'm just saying. I mean,

1014
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a handful of conversations that when

1015
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: this was all happening last year. I mean, I'm not

1016
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: part of the process, and people would call me. I'm like, dude,

1017
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: why are you calling me? I got nothing to do

1018
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: with this, But I mean, they give me your opinions.

1019
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: It wasn't always very flattering, which is fine. I mean,

1020
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick.

1021
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: But that's just one perspective. And that's the perspective. And

1022
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: here's the other thing. You understand a lot of times

1023
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: about coaches. Coaches don't like bad mouthing other coaches. It's

1024
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: like doctors ever go ask a doctor about another doctor

1025
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: like they doctors will never say anything bad about another

1026
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: doctor because they don't want to come blown back on them.

1027
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: And so asking Jimmy Johnson or Bill Belichick about Urban Meyer,

1028
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: they're not. I mean they don't know him. I mean

1029
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: like like the day to day and they're probably not

1030
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna just rip the guy because like they have this

1031
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: little community, this will fraternity. So I agree with Pete

1032
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: when I said, go ask, Go ask the guys that go,

1033
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: ask people who have to work with these individuals every day,

1034
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: and whoever you hire next do the same deep deep

1035
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: dit You know we're joking about deep dive, but that's

1036
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. But who does he get to

1037
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: do it? That's the quite. He needs somebody to guide

1038
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: him first and foremost. If Trent Balky is not going

1039
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: to be part of the team, and we don't know that,

1040
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: but if he's not, then you need somebody to step

1041
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: in that's going to lead the process. And so how

1042
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: do you do you hire a guy who can hire

1043
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: and advise you on hiring your coach and GM together,

1044
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: or do you do you hire the GM and then

1045
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: he hires the coach. There's a lot of things that

1046
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: play in there that you have to decide how you're

1047
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: gonna do it. But he needs somebody to advise him,

1048
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: and it's not Trent. It can't be Trent. If Trent

1049
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: advised him on urban Meyer, which you hear he did,

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Speaker 1: then then I think you can't be Trent. So it

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Speaker 1: has to be somebody on the outside. So do you

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00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: hire a former personnel guy, a coach head coach Tony

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00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: Dundee's name has been mentioned somebody along those lines. I

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00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: just think he needs somebody to lean on with football

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Speaker 1: background to help him get through the process. When we return,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it real. We haven't even started to

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Speaker 1: keep it real yet. Jaguars Game Day Radio is brought

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. I mean, I thought there was I

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00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: thought there were things that we did better today. You know,

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00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: um there was. There was a little bit of explosions

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00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: you were able to find, you know, find guys. We

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00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: were in a creatin space for some people. But again

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00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: we just said we did There was opportunities to make plays,

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00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: didn't make some of them. And we gotta catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: We gotta throw the ball, um, you gotta you know,

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Speaker 1: we gotta protect better and we'll be we'll be able

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Speaker 1: to find a fund the end zone. But let's just

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Speaker 1: be Shaun up constinue improved. It's Darryl Bevel after the

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Speaker 1: game yesterday at Jaguars lost to the Houston Texans, and

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P, Shadrick Pete Prisco,

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is rubbing his face. Was all right, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make it. It's been one of those afternoons already. Well,

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Speaker 1: just m We're just awful on offense and we were

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Speaker 1: not getting better. And they like and what Darryl Bebel

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Speaker 1: SAIDs right, and you gotta catch the ball, you gotta

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Speaker 1: throw it more accurately, gonna block. There's just no juice.

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01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: There's no juice on that side of the ball. What

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Speaker 1: do you think of the decision to change make Brian

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01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer the play call? What can it hurt? Go for it?

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Speaker 1: Try it? I mean, what does it matter? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it makes it easier for Daryl Bebl

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Speaker 1: to manage the sounded managed the whole game. Sure, if

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Speaker 1: I'm Daryl Bebel, I'm not doing it. Though. When they

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Speaker 1: come out and score thirty a game, you'll never be

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Speaker 1: an offensive cordinator again. And they are playing they are

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Speaker 1: playing a bad defense this week. By if they just

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01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: like like a pinball machine in the waite. What is

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Speaker 1: this bebel guy been doing where? Not even in the time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he can cut down on the little bubble

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Speaker 1: screens to China from five to two or something per game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, wow, but I mean it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're not How much can you change in

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Speaker 1: one week? And you are who you are at this all? Right?

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Speaker 1: This the opening drive on I thought the opening drive

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Speaker 1: looked great. Go ahead, you gotta do your your keeping

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Speaker 1: it real. This this leads us into the keeping it

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Speaker 1: I still haven't gotten anything out of it all yeah, pieces, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, no liquor has been sending my way. That's wine,

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Speaker 1: which means you're the ones you're going to give out

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Speaker 1: a Christmas too late. Able. You guys all know why

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Speaker 1: you're not getting your Christmas. President Bob didn't send me.

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus ain't coming to town. So this is kind

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Speaker 1: of our topic here. I know we interrupted you there,

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Speaker 1: but who are your offensive pillars. Right now, who do

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Speaker 1: you build around on the offensive side of the football?

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Speaker 1: Moving ahead, no matter who's picking, whatever is going on,

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01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: who are the guys that are Trevor Lawrence? You believe

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Speaker 1: in Trevor Lawrence, James Robinson, Cam Robinson even still, Yeah,

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01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: franchise him. Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean it's

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01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: hard to find go look around left tackles and we've

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: we've gone through this. It's not I'm building around. That's it.

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: Pete quarterback left tackle for the right price. Running back

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: is part of the running game. But I need some

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01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: I need speed back there. I'm saying he's a guy,

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Speaker 1: he's on your roster and he got E t n

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Speaker 1: coming off. None of the other guys. Ben bart is

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Speaker 1: on your roster. Tone that I'm building around, I'm okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like I might, I'm not saying I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: upgrade right guard if I can. Like the way I

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Speaker 1: look at the question you ask, like where am I

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Speaker 1: like going in next year, I feel like I got

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Speaker 1: three starters correct, But like I think Ben I'll say differently.

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Speaker 1: Do I think Ben Bartch is just started? Yes, Ben

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Speaker 1: Barts can start. Like my guess is, unless you go

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Speaker 1: find someone else like Juwan Taylor is gonna be your

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Speaker 1: starting right tackle next year unless someone can be about

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, finding offensive linement is not easy. And you

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01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: have a bunch of stuff. No, here's something, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you an example. Though. You watch the game

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01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: Sunday night. The Saints played without their starting tackles and

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Speaker 1: a backup guard and they just totally did everything they

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01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: could have get a good defense protected them and he

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01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: had time at times and it wasn't a disaster. Why

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: is that Tony good coaching? Good scheme? You run the ball,

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01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: take the pass, rush out, you play action pass, you

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01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: move the pocket, you change the launch point. So it's

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01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: the guys can't tee off. I mean, I can give

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01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: you a lot of things you can do differently. They

1144
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: haven't gotten any better the offensive line. Joan Taylor has

1145
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: got in the wrong direction. Andrew Norwell, I think he's

1146
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: hit the goodbye career over ledge and he's done. I

1147
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: think Brandon Linder is uh is basically washed up. Um,

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01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean not washed up, but he can't get out

1149
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: the field. That's why concerned with him. Right and and

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01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: the right guard has moments where he looks like he

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01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: could be a good solid guard. He does. Okay, But

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. Is there any receiver

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01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: you're that you are not against like that you're not

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: trying to upgrade for nexttion? Any any tight ends you're not? No? Okay,

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Speaker 1: in the game on Sunday and I said four or five,

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Speaker 1: let me finish. Okay, So there's not every you're gonna

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Speaker 1: try it the upgrade every receiver. You're gonna try to

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01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: upgrade every tight end. Tell me the offensive line positions

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna try it upgrade are left tackle.

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01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep your left keeping Cam. Yeah, for the

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: right price. Because what I'm saying, but you're like, you're

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Speaker 1: not actively going to Joe try and find another left tackle. No, no,

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01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: you would. You would try and keep him for if

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01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: the money got out of whack, you go try and

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Speaker 1: find a left tackle. Fair enough, I'm assuming. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you had a franchise and again it's fifteen million

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Speaker 1: bucks or seventeen million bucks next franchise, he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: my left tackle. Yes, that's my point. You can't because

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. You can't fix everything, Like you literally

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Speaker 1: have to put some plugs in saying we're going with

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Speaker 1: this guy. We're like going there. This is what the

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Speaker 1: bill is. Lineman. Would you consider the offensive lineman with

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Speaker 1: the first overall pick? Yeah, I would. They kid from

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Speaker 1: Alabama is the real deal. Evan Neil, Evan Neil. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you what I'm doing, Pete. I'm taking the

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Speaker 1: best players because I don't have enough good ones. I

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Speaker 1: don't what if a receiver was the best player, you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't take it first? Well maybe why not? I mean

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that idea. You wouldn't take

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Speaker 1: it back for her, he would take it back first.

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Speaker 1: There's never gonna be a back that's the best player. Well,

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Speaker 1: it could be the best player. He's just not gonna

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: have the most value. That's my point. Well, the best

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: player value, Like like, I'm taking the guy that brings

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Speaker 1: the most value to my team. That's has to be

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01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: a good player. For example, if Jonathan Taylor was in

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Speaker 1: the draft, I'm not taking in the draft because he's

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Speaker 1: a more value. Doesn't mean, Pete, But this is where

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Speaker 1: you go. Let me tell you how it goes. You

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Speaker 1: know this, Come on, draft, quarterback, you draft, affect the

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Speaker 1: quarter back you draft, protect the quarterback, and then you

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Speaker 1: and then you know you have and then you know what,

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Speaker 1: you draft quarterbacks, passes down the corner. But no, I

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Speaker 1: mean I'm telling my order because you know what, if

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Speaker 1: you affect the quarterback, you can play with inferior dbs.

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Speaker 1: Go tell me the four who are the four starting

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Speaker 1: dbs for the Giants when they killed Brady and end

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Speaker 1: their undefeated season. You can't tell me. You know, you

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Speaker 1: could tell me. You can tell me the front four

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Speaker 1: that we're getting after him. But but Tony, I'm saying, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me listen. Tell you fix it. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you fix it. Quarterback, affect the quarterback, protect the quarterback

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Speaker 1: speed on offense. That's it. Go do that, you'll be okay. No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a five pronged approach. Now it used to

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01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: be four pronged. Gets the quarterback, knocked down the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: protect the quarterback, knocked down the quarterbacks passes, and now

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Speaker 1: it's catch them with speed. It's the game has changed.

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Speaker 1: It never used to be a receiver. Okay, fine, I'll

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Speaker 1: take my point is I'm putting beat in front of

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Speaker 1: your knocking down the quarterbacks ball because I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: a pass rush, it's gonna be knocking the guy's head off.

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01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw it. But how good would your defense

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01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: if you had Jalen behind a pass rush like that? Why?

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Speaker 1: I've talked to defensive coordinators that I respect and they say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what makes a great back half is a

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Speaker 1: great front four. Oh, I'm with you, I'm front. Let

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: me tell you what. There's a theory out there now

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Speaker 1: that the secondary is more important. I don't buy it, hey,

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Speaker 1: because because here's the thing, Pete go remember the forty

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Speaker 1: nine when solo two years ago they went to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Richard Shermon was old and couldn't run,

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Speaker 1: but was all Pro or Pro Bowl? Are you us

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Speaker 1: anyone on that step? They were great on the back

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01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: half because they had four dudes who could get after

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and you never had time back there. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you that the most important positions are quarterback and

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Speaker 1: knocking him down and then protecting the quarterback and then

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Speaker 1: I'm My only thing is I'm not saying the secondary

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Speaker 1: is not important, but I need guys who can run

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: outside on offense safety seed. I need speed on offense

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: speed and not just straight line speed. I need suddenness.

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Speaker 1: I need like make you miss, like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: you're in the open field. I'm scared to death. You're

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Speaker 1: going to the house. Well, I mean, there's only a

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Speaker 1: very few of that. I'll take. I'll take Deebo, Samuel Speed,

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Speaker 1: I'll take, um, I'll take What's I'll take Seedee Lamb Speed,

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Speaker 1: I'll take. I mean, there's there's a plenty of mouth

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Speaker 1: justin Jefferson. You gotta go with those guys in the

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Speaker 1: first round, though, Okay, maybe I trade like I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm with Pete if I could trade back if I

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 1: had the first overall pick, unless like one of those

1242
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Speaker 1: guys just jumps off at the page and I just

1243
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: have to have him, like he's a difference maker. Trade

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: back to five or six if you can go get

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: a receiver you need speed now. But I haven't done anywhere.

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like we've done work. Maybe Hutchinson's

1247
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: like the like the next Nick Bosa. Well then guess what,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking them number one. And by the way, the

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: free agent market if receivers got a hit last night

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: with Chris Godward. Terry's a c L. I thought it

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: was his m c L. They had a L. So

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: he's out for the yearn who I read? Because this

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01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: afternoon the first report was M c L. Right, and

1254
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 1: then they went they did another test and it was

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Speaker 1: the A C L. Yeah, that's not good. So that

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Speaker 1: was Keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi.

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Speaker 1: Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning one

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Speaker 1: by Robert Mundavi. And I think, um, we kept it

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Speaker 1: real with a really long list of things on offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of holes. Let's come back in social

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: media questions. They'll cheer us all up. It always does.

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Speaker 1: Sony he loves him, love it, Pete loves him. We

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Speaker 1: all love them. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour and it's

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Speaker 1: time for social media questions. We put the bat signal

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Speaker 1: out each Monday on Twitter. Here's the best we've come

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01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: up with. Today's a lot by the way at Duvall

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01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: Underscore twenty four. I know James Robinson is a fan favorite.

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't like him too, but why does he look

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: so slow? A few runs he has on the outside

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01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: looked like it took him fifteen minutes to try to

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: turn the corner, which he didn't. Pete, Well, I'm gonna

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's something I was getting into when

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: we talked about core players. James Robinson is a good

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01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: running back. He's a he's a grinder. But they don't

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01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: they need and they have et M. So obviously he's

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01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: on the roster when he comes back from injury. But

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: they need an explosive player at the running back position.

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01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: And there were times on Sunday where there were holes

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01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: and it looked like he should add more than what

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01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: he had. They and they drafted e t In by

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: the way, got hurt, but James beat up to He's

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: got a heel and knee. It's not I mean, the

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01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: kid was averaging over five yards of carry before. He's

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01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: a good runner. To what you just said is nonsense.

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 1: You're going in. I mean, listen, you're falling for the

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: same trapper. Obviously, No, I'm not. I think he's a

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: good back, but you need a change of pace, explosive back,

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01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: and they don't have that right now. Well that's fair,

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: but that is I mean, James Rumson's a starting NFL back.

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: If you average five yards and carry, you're starting back.

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: But now, if you would have told me you made

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01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: the comment, if you'd have made the comment like he's

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01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: mark Ingram and you need Alvin Kamara with him, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's fair.

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Speaker 1: That's what they thought they had I think. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I didn't see that in camp. By the way,

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01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: there was nothing in camp that same. That was the

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: plan we were told. I get that, and I hope

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01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: it's the plan. That's right. I just didn't see it

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Speaker 1: in camp, did you no? No? Question Number two social media,

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Speaker 1: we're often running on this one a Carnival Thomas question

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: for both Pete Why would Tony make a terrible head coach?

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: And Tony? Why would Pete make a terrible head coach? JP?

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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: Who would be worse? Well, Pete couldn't be a head

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: Answer first, Pete could not be to make a terrible

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01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: head coach because his emotions are all over the place.

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: He can't handle losing. He'd be a bad loser. He'd

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01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: never be able to have a hard time moving on

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01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: to the next games, to get emotional on the sidelines,

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01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: training thought on the sidelines, Helly, he wouldn't be on

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01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: time his meetings would start late. He wouldn't be a

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01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: good head coach. That sounds familiar. That's not accurate at all.

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01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: Outside I would have a hard time getting over losing.

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: That's true, but I can move on. Um. Pete couldn't

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 1: be a head coach because he'd be too worried about like,

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: we need to be more creative. I need more bunches.

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: I need more like picks, rub rub picks, rued more

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: more of that. And he doesn't know anything else, and

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: he forget that you actually have to run the ball

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: and block people that you just can't rob little circles

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01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 1: on the sideline, say rub here, pick here, bunch, bunch, bunch,

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 1: because he doesn't know anything. Yes, I do. I know

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: that you can do that because they've done done it before,

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01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: They've done a couple of times, had success with it,

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: So do it. I gotta say I'm siding with Pete

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: on this one. That Tony would lose his mind on

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01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: the sideline and lose. So you're saying, wait, yeah, I

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01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: think so. I think so. You're an idiot. It's it's

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01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: I'll be honest from a football I picked the CLI

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: too because he's been there and done it and he

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: knows what it takes to win, and he understands how

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: a team is built, and he understand but the other

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01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: side will give him about fifty five demerits for every

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: positive that he yet I mean, I mean, my problem

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: would be, here's my problem. If I'm in a game

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01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: and my kicker has a kick to tie the game late,

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: and it's from thirty five yards and he misses it,

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm old school. I might want to grab his helmet

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01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: and give him a choke. You know you've just thrown

1341
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: around and I can't do that. Make your damn kick.

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: I want to Even Pete agrees with me that I'd

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01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: be better. You're an idiot. You chose the guy that

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: did even choose himself. I would say, for the soundbites only,

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: I would pick Pete. First of all, how great? How

1346
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: great would it be if I was head coaching, you

1347
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: were in the press during a press conference? How much

1348
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: would you enjoy that? Oh? I make you cry? You'd

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: want to come after me standing for TV? Al right,

1350
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: next question, social media. We are rolling now at nine

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01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: oh four and more at this point, is there anything

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01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: to fix the undisciplined penalties? Off season? An off season?

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01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean I mean they keep on making mistakes where

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: they extend drives and give up points. I mean they

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01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: were three and out on the opening drive out of

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: the gate, and it wasn't like it was a little

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: hands in the face. He ripped his help off. What

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01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: are we doing? How many? How many? How many? Where

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01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 1: do they ranking penalties were compared to the rest of

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01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: the league. That's an interesting question. And where do they

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Speaker 1: rank and penalties compared to the all time penalized teams? Tony,

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01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: I told you this your team's back in the day.

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01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: Better Pete the better stat if you could find it.

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01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: How many penalties does this team have that extended drives

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01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: that are basically like turnovers like that one the hands

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: of the face, that's a turnover. You're giving the ball

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01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: back to them. Mhm awful. They've done that in some

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01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: form of fashion. A lot, a lot awful, all right. Next,

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: it's not just depenalty, it's when you do it like

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01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: so it's one of the things you can't have. Dumb team.

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: It can't be a dumb like dumb football. They just

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: beat you every time. Dumb football kills you at Devil

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01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: X Jaguars. An next question, why do we make the

1374
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: easy things look difficult and the hard things look impossible.

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01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 1: For years we've had the same problems, no matter the staff.

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01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: What's the solution. Are Trevor's problems fixable? He just doesn't

1377
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 1: playing well? Also getting no help, Love you guys, Merry Christmas.

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a lot to digest. A lot

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: of mood swings there too. So I guess the main

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01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: question is why I think so hard, Because when you're

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01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: a bad football team, everything's hard. And we're a bad

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01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: football team right now. And you know, at the end

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: of the day, how do I say you almost get

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01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: what you deserve. You picked. If you pick the wrong

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: people and you have the wrong people leading, you're not

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01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: gonna have success. And I mean, I think it's pretty

1387
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: clear that urban Meyer was not the right guy. Yeah,

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01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,879
Speaker 1: but you know what though, Tony, he had that quarterback

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01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: competition in the summer to help build resident Yeah, I mean,

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01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: looking back on that, that might well, people, here's the thing,

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01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: just a little hand at how much garbage was in

1392
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: that building, and that thought, give me a break, quarterback. Yeah,

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01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a competition. See are you kidding? There?

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01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: You and I thought that was one of the first

1395
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: things be, you and I talked about it. We weren't

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01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: as direct on the air because you know, early we're

1397
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: trying to be support supportive. But you and I talked

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01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,759
Speaker 1: about like how ridiculous that was, Like how taking away

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01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: reps from your starting quarterback to do some facade. I

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01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 1: have some facade out there. No, wait a second, you

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01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: weren't as direct on the air. You're right, But my

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01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: point is you and I had at all. We had

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: conversations about it. No, you're right, we did. We had

1404
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: a lot of conversations. By the way, penalty wise, there

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01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: are one, two, three, four or five, six, seven seven

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01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: teams with more penalties than Jacksonville and there fourth in

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01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: the league and pre snap penalty so a lot of

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01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: pre snap mistakes too. Yeah, I would love to it

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: would be great, would be great. Someone actually did some

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01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: homework and like how many of the penalties extended drives?

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01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: Like they're off the field and extended to drive. M

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01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: not pretty? You know that. Next question social media, they're

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01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: rolling in to night at Zach Bierman. What are teams

1414
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: doing to take Josh Allen out of the game and

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01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: should he be able to overcome that given he was

1416
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: drafted to be a premier pass rusher. Well, of course

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: we've talked about this, but I'm not seeing anything. There's

1418
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: no like purposeful like running guys at him, trying to

1419
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: double them. I ain't. They're just blocking them. I've not

1420
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: seen you said it. We're worth blocked him when they

1421
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: played him a couple of weeks ago. He ran because

1422
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: he ran lined into him. Pete, you have a fourty

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01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: year old who struggles to bend his knees and isn't

1424
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: really moving that. Get on the edge, make him move

1425
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: his feet, go speed to power. Change it up. Hey, Pete,

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01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: we're on the show. Here's the other thing. Here's the

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01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: other thing. It's not like they're chipping them and doubling them.

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01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: If you were paying attention. It's what I just said.

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01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: You're too busy looking around your office. And whoever came

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01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: in said you didn't say exactly that. I didn't to

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01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: pay attention. Pay attention to the show, Pete, like I

1432
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: do every day, every segment of every show, Tony Baselly,

1433
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: Pete is locked in. Let me tell you what he

1434
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 1: was late tonight. He was locked in when he showed up.

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01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: I let you know I was to be late. First

1436
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: of all, so I'm not late. If I tell you

1437
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be, I mean we but but j Pte,

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01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: we could forgive him for being late tonight because he

1439
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: had that consultation and meeting about becoming the general. Did not.

1440
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: That's a lie. Pik stop saying that. That's not funny.

1441
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna get me in trouble. That's not true. Kidding.

1442
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: Everybody knows I'm kidding. I don't know. People sometimes, based

1443
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: on some of the tweets weekend in social media, I

1444
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: think some people think you're seriously until that hits Twitter.

1445
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: Jaguars look at Boselli for no, no, no, they have

1446
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 1: a GM, Trent Baltons and GM. Just imagine in this

1447
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 1: zoom interview today he wore the lumberjack shirt. Now that's bold,

1448
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: that would be bold lumberjack. It's kind of it's kind

1449
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: of lumberjack ish. Was it was it for football? Are

1450
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: you doing a game this week or something? What I'm doing?

1451
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: The game? I'm doing the Titans game Thursday night of Nashville. Okay,

1452
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: a good game Titans. Titans. Hey, hey they tightens. They're

1453
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: only a game game and a half ahead of the Colts.

1454
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: Now here. They come, Jimmy Garoppolo is playing good football?

1455
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: Buck one another social media question, keep them rolling in

1456
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: here at rich Ato. If the teams were open to it,

1457
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: would you trade the first overall pick from Mike Tomlin

1458
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: or Sean Payton? No? No, no, first overall? No second round? Sure,

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Speaker 1: when's the last time that happened? Was that Bill? Bill Belichick?

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01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: Didn't Gruden get Yeah? Gruden Tampa Beta, Oakland Raiders, Tampa.

1461
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know Belichick got traded from the Jets,

1462
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots or Patriots and Jets whatever it was back then. Yeah, yeah,

1463
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: um well yeah, what is it? Would do that? Would

1464
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: you give a second round or ever Sean Payton or

1465
01:22:54,280 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: Mike Tomin Yes, I would do I would do. Wow, Terab,

1466
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: what's not good? Why are you? Why are you still

1467
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: wearing the cards? I want to prove that it's not

1468
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: a lumberjack. It's more of like a like it's like

1469
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: a surfer. I'm at the beach in California's Little Chili,

1470
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: just out of the water, Just's California. I was hanging

1471
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: in California. I was hanging ten, hanging ten on my board.

1472
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: That's the biggest surfboard in the history of surfboards. Yeah,

1473
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: so they gotta keep warm. You're a little chili. One

1474
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: more social media question at Reno High Tower, twenty one

1475
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: Jags in the playoffs in four over or under? I

1476
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: say under under. We'll get a coach and then it

1477
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. They'll be under for sure. Maybe

1478
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: next year. Next year. I was the next year he

1479
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 1: said next year. I look, I thought they'd be in

1480
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: the playoff. I thought they have a real shot to

1481
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs in twenty two. They're not. There's

1482
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: no way. Yeah. Okay. And and by the way, if

1483
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence isn't the real deal, they won't be in

1484
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs until so get used to that. If he's not,

1485
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: that'll do it for social media questions. One a way

1486
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: to bring us down. We'll come back in a moment.

1487
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, we're gonna hear from him coming up. No,

1488
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: no note. We we had him on post game yesterday

1489
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: with some comments about a certain somebody on this program.

1490
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: You're taking shots. We'll find out. I hope it'll go

1491
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: around the NFL in just a moment. You don't want

1492
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: to miss this. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 1: Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick,

1494
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Yesterday on Jaguars Post Game on

1495
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network, Mike Dempsey, Fred Taylor and I

1496
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: had some final thoughts before we closed out the show.

1497
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: It was a little boxing conversation. Frank Gore was in

1498
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: the boxing ring the other day. Fred Taylor knows him. Well,

1499
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Here's how the show ended yesterday on Jaguars Radio. So

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01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 1: the day after Christmas, it's the Jaguars and the New

1501
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: York Jets at MetLife Stadium a one o'clock kickoff time,

1502
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: December in week number sixteen, Fred, Great to see you.

1503
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: What's gonna w next week? Christmas? Yeah? I wish I

1504
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: was out there. I mean we'll get a w you

1505
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: wish you were out there? So yeah, yeah, ten years removed,

1506
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 1: I can do All these guys are boxing late and

1507
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 1: I can still front the ball twelve carries or maybe eight?

1508
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Would you ever consider boxing? No, but I will come

1509
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: down to fight though if you if you did consider it, Like,

1510
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: who would you like to get a piece of in

1511
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: the ring? Um? Probably Pete Prisco. I'll tell Pete all

1512
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: the time he started the fragile Fred thing, but he

1513
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: says he did. But Peter's my guy. You know, we

1514
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: we've developed the friendship. But I like to put him

1515
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: in there with no head gear or nothing. Let me

1516
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: just bang him up. Sure you have the height and

1517
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: reach advantage, that's for sure. Oh for sure. I just

1518
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: hit him like King Cooper, Mike Tyson, just belly shots

1519
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: all day. Oh that was classic Fred Taylor yesterday, Pete,

1520
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: how about it? You know he I'm bringing him into

1521
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: our studio in a couple of weeks to do something

1522
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: with with Ray Lewis, to help him try and get

1523
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I might cancel that. Look, Fred's kidding.

1524
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: We have a great relationship. He's one of my favorite

1525
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: guys I ever covered. And uh, and I did not

1526
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: start fragile Fred. I promise you I did not start

1527
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: fragil I am guilty of one thing. Back and walked

1528
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: up to Fred when he was a young player, and

1529
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: I tricked him into saying he could rush for two

1530
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 1: thousand yards in a season by saying, Hey, Fred, you

1531
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: know these guys have a role rushed for two thousand yard?

1532
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: Do you think you can get there? Oh? I get

1533
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: the two thousand yards, and I had my head lie

1534
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Fred the other I could rush for two thousand and

1535
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,879
Speaker 1: so I that was I did do that, but I fragile.

1536
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: Fred was not me because I I am one of

1537
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: the few guys around that team that took up for him,

1538
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: because I know a bad that growing was ripped off

1539
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: the bone and couughlan listed him at week the week,

1540
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: every single week, which was it was not unfair to

1541
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor. I'd still like to see put you in

1542
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 1: the boxing ring. No, you would need beat daylights. But

1543
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: I fight though. Let's go around the National Can I bring?

1544
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 1: Can I bring like a baseball bat in there or

1545
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: something you need? You need all the help you can get. Yeah,

1546
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: that's right, Fred can bring he can bring it. Let's

1547
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: go around the NFL. Hit some scores, some highlights. Chargers

1548
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 1: fell to the Chiefs on Thursday, the Colts over the Patriots.

1549
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Saturday seen the Bills knocked off the Panthers fourteen. The

1550
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Lions we mentioned them earlier. A fullback touchdown Dan Miller

1551
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 1: with a call courtesy of w x y T FM,

1552
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: N the Ticket and the Detroit Lions Radio Network. Off

1553
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: Takes Turns, Takes the give rolls right, grows talk to

1554
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: the touch, the Detroit Lions hard run, fake left, golf

1555
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 1: roll right, father's full back, and the Lions have added

1556
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: to that lead. I want a win for the Lions feet.

1557
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: The Jaguars lost, so they're number one in the draft order.

1558
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: Now the Lions get their second win. Yeah, and you

1559
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: know what, that was a bad showing for Arizona. That's

1560
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,560
Speaker 1: a bad loss. That that can't happen quick thing. I

1561
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: want to ask Tony if he knew this. They showed

1562
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: Brunel on the sideline during the game and he had

1563
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: a play sheet. Was he called him plays on Sunday?

1564
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, Dan Campbell calls place, YEA,

1565
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I might have to go. You might have to ask

1566
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: he's had a play sheet all year? They because he's no.

1567
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: He looked like he was engaged, and I'm telling him,

1568
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: maybe he was called bass plays. I bet you, I'll

1569
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: bet you anything you want, Pete. He was not calling place.

1570
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: I know maybe he wasn't, but it looked like he

1571
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: was more involved than that. But hey, maybe that's what

1572
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 1: would be a good thing for Brunell. You can hired

1573
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell's being the head coach and bring Brunell back

1574
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,480
Speaker 1: to Jackson will be offensive coordinator. Would you hire here's

1575
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: a question for we didn't talk about this next head coach.

1576
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 1: Does he need to have head coach NFL head coaching

1577
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 1: experience for you to hire? Nope? Would you would you

1578
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:51,560
Speaker 1: favor a guy who had head coaching experience? Nope? I

1579
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: think you need to be I've been a play caller

1580
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: at some point. I think I think I would at

1581
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: this point. You know why. I think you need like

1582
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: somebody who's done it before, like this place, like you

1583
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: need to get it back on track, and like I'd

1584
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: worry about a young guy who's never a young guy

1585
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: who's never done it before, Pete, I'd worry about. So

1586
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: you just narrowed it down to a guy like Josh McDaniels,

1587
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 1: because I didn't just eliminated Byron Left which I just

1588
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: eliminated Kellenmore. You just eliminated Kevin O'Connell. You just eliminated Todd.

1589
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls could be a possibility Todd Bowls. You didn't

1590
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 1: listen to what I said. I'm not saying I eliminate anyone.

1591
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: I would lean towards like somebody who's not been a

1592
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: head coach before, like a Byron Left, which Kevin O'Connell

1593
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: or Kellenmore. They would have to blow my socks off

1594
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 1: for me not to go with the guy who had experienced,

1595
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: like a Todd Bowls or a um or Doug Peterson

1596
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: or Josh McDaniel or Jim Calwell or whoever's out there

1597
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: that has experience. Some more games around the NFL, Dolphins

1598
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: over the Jets thirty one four, Cowboys beat the Giants

1599
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: twenty one six. The Steelers over the Titans. The Steelers

1600
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 1: are covered a fumble Bill hill Grove on one or

1601
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: two point five w d V and the Steelers radio network.

1602
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: He steps in. We're a one back, look at a

1603
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 1: slot right tight end right read deploys to the left

1604
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: side of the formation. Oh, he fumbled. A stamp it's there,

1605
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: and a big paddle up and the Steelers say they

1606
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 1: have it. Who has the ball? The fumbled snap ends

1607
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: up in Steeler's hand, Yes, yes, yes, fired up. Steelers

1608
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: win it. The Titans, who they'll get a little shaky

1609
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: in the a f C South right now. We lost

1610
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 1: four and five. I told I said here first, PiZZ said,

1611
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: there's no chance to here come the Colts three games left, one,

1612
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: two games back? Would surprise you? Who do the Colts

1613
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 1: have this week? Stand by? You think you you really think?

1614
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 1: In three games are gonna blow They're gonna blow that

1615
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Culture at Arizona. Okay, culture in Arizona? Okay? Would you

1616
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: surprise you have? The Cult beat the Arizona Cardinals, who

1617
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: were going the wrong way? Okay? What is the project?

1618
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: Hold on? Who's Who's Who's Week six? Who's Week seventeen

1619
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: for the Colts at the home against the Raiders at

1620
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,839
Speaker 1: Cardinals at Cardinals home against the Raiders at the Jaguars

1621
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: for the Colts and the Titans have the Texans. The

1622
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Titans have to win one game, that's right. No, they

1623
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: have to win two. Sorry if they know if they lose.

1624
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: If the Titans win one of the next three and

1625
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 1: the Colts win all three, the Colts win the division.

1626
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: Because the one the Titans, Titans win one and the

1627
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,839
Speaker 1: Colts lose one, they win the division. That's right. Titans

1628
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: are home against San Fran, home against Miami, and then

1629
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: at Houston. They're winning too. They're done. We'll remember that.

1630
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Moving ahead now to the Bengals at the Broncos Tyler

1631
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: Boyd with a long touchdown. Dan Horde on Cincinnati's ESPN

1632
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty and the Bengals radio network. The Bengals don't huddle.

1633
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: They snap at to Burrow, throw us down field for

1634
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: a wide boy catch us at the thirty, great up

1635
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 1: cut back toward the mind of the ten, the five

1636
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: touchdown Bengals a fifty six yard answer Choe Burrow to

1637
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd and the Bengals are back in front. About

1638
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 1: the Bengals, Pete, it's a good team. It's a good

1639
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: young team. And they got a big game this week

1640
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 1: with the Ravens. And remember last time they played the Ravens,

1641
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: they dominated them. And the Ravens are banged up across

1642
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 1: the board. Man their secondary is bad right now. So

1643
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: I look, the Bengals have a real shot to win

1644
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: that division. About that a real chance. They were terrible

1645
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: last year, good this years over the Falcons thirteen. And

1646
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: then the Packers held on against the Ravens. They went

1647
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: for two point try late the Ravens did it failed,

1648
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: the Packers win. Wayne arav He had the call on

1649
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 1: the Packers radio network. Motion from a tight end of

1650
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: the wing of the left side Huntley in the shotgun,

1651
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: let Tavia's bury to his right, snapped. Huntley rolls right,

1652
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: throws right side of the ends, Hennison complete, incomplete, right

1653
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: corner of the ends, on in front of the pylon,

1654
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: and incomplete. The Packers are gonna hang on and win

1655
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: this game. Pete, how do you feel about those calls?

1656
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:28,600
Speaker 1: Going for two? Well? Did Wayne not realize that there

1657
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: was also an onside kick coming to there? Wasn't the

1658
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: left look? That one I had no problem with. And

1659
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: here's why they The Packers had done whatever they wanted

1660
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,480
Speaker 1: to on offense. They were really struggling in the secondary.

1661
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: They had the momentum. I don't. I don't have any

1662
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: issue with that one. I normally I would push back

1663
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: on something like that, but that situation, go for it.

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Speaker 1: And Huntley played well. By the way he played, he

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Speaker 1: did some really good things. The Saints over the Bucketeers.

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Speaker 1: The last team that shut out Tom Brady was is

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Speaker 1: coached by Nick Saban. That's how long ago that was

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Speaker 1: nine nothing to score. Yesterday, Saints over the Buccaneers. Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. A couple of games one underway right now,

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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders and the Cleveland Browns, and then

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Speaker 1: later tonight the Minnesota Vikings and the Chicago Bears, who

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Speaker 1: you got tonight in a double header. Guys, that was terrible.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that was the worst one I've ever had.

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Speaker 1: As almost as bad as your jacket because he was

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Speaker 1: you know why, because there were two games and he

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Speaker 1: was kind of discombobulated a little bit. They threw him

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Speaker 1: off his boat. Almost as bad as his jacket. The

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Speaker 1: Raiders COVID has just wrecked them, and then no quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are down to the third Street quarterback in tonight, I

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Speaker 1: like Minnesota talking about people haven't paid attention. Chicago's ravaged

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Speaker 1: by covids as Cleveland. Almost the entire secondaries out. Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins has a huge day. Raiders lead at seven nothing,

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Speaker 1: by the way, six minutes left in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: And Tuesday see to let the Rams Washington Philly. That

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Speaker 1: means go Rams Philly will By the way, the NFL

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Speaker 1: loves they don't like COVID, but they love playing games

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Speaker 1: every night of the week. I can tell you that ratings, Banans, Bonanza, Pete.

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Speaker 1: Have a great week, Peter. All right, guys, Merry Christmas

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Speaker 1: to you. I don't Christmas Pete Priscoe, the Grinch laugh.

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Speaker 1: He didn't bring it out tonight. Joe Fortunato in the audio,

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Speaker 1: tell my wife. He made fun of my jacket about me,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I like it. It's comfortable. He was coming

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Speaker 1: at me. I had to bring it back to him.

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Speaker 1: Chick Chicks dig. That's Tony Vaselli. I'm J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: We've had enough. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Digital Network.