WEBVTT - The Deep End 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:04.280 A new to the listener. The following story contains some 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:11.280 adult content and language. This was her last stop before 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.000 she was killed, and somebody knows something or somebody saw something. 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:19.160 I will not leave here without their next I would 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.759 caution you to be very careful, Mr Briggs. You're over 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.440 confidence is skating dangerously close to stupidity. Only one man 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.319 has ever spoken to me in that tone of voice 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.720 without consequence, and the only reason I let him off 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:33.559 the hook is because each and every word out of 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.000 his mouth on screen may be more money than the last, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.120 but your words are worthless. So change of goddamn tone 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:45.320 and fast and without. Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.760 introduce you to the President of Classic Pictures, Mr Leonard Shaw, 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.960 from Vox Popula and the Los Angeles. Harold, this is 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:08.399 the angel A Vine, my old heart, anking and no 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:26.600 ground because my angels. Welcome back to the podcast. Thank 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.720 you once again for joining us. Okay, so before I 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.120 play you the meeting between Hank and Leonard Shaw, we 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.520 have a bit of ground to cover so that we 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.760 can understand who Hanks dealing with. And the story starts 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.399 farther away from Hollywood than you might think. At one 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.679 point in time, Fort Lee, New Jersey, was actually considered 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.720 the film capital of the world thanks to a man 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.880 named Thomas Edison. You may have heard of him now. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.400 One of his contributions was the invention of the earliest 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.520 motion picture viewer, called the kinetoscope. But it's even greater 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:03.200 contribution was his desire for notoriety, control, and ultimately power. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.560 Edison hoarded so many patents over movie making technology and 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.360 equipment that it was almost impossible for anyone to produce 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.160 or distribute a movie without his say so. He also 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.640 went as far as to omit the film's credits in 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.720 order to avoid attributing monetary value to any of its players. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:28.520 What's the saying, power tends to corrupt, absolute, power, corrupt 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:35.880 absolutely something like that. Remember that for later. So, while 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.720 the men in New Jersey were fighting over who would 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.960 die with the most money, a fifteen year old boy 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.799 in Brooklyn by the name of Leonard Schuster sold newspapers 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.880 to help his impoverished family. His father worked in a 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.799 tobacco processing plant while his mother cared for his two 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.520 younger brothers, no doubt, a difficult life made even more 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.799 difficult by his father's sudden death. Now the sole support 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.960 system for his family. Leonard pulled up his proverbial bootstrap 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.200 and went from street corner newspaper salesman to Aaron Boy 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.640 and Carl Lemley's first company, located in the Student Baker 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.840 Building in Times Square. That production company became what we 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:14.400 now know as Universal Studios. True story, it was at 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.639 pre Universal that Leonard met a man by the name 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.280 of Daniel Albright, one of the many producers who worked 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.520 with Lemley to challenge Edison's stranglehold on the industry. The 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.440 story of their meeting goes something like this. One morning, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.320 in the presence of Lemley and Albright, Leonard reacted to 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.440 a photograph of Mary Pickford and blurted out, who is that? 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.160 I've seen her before, I'd watched that girl do anything. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.760 A light bulb goes off. Lemley and Albright look at 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.360 each other. What if it's the actor and not the 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.600 movie that the public want? And it was there that 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:53.040 the star system and star power were born. So love 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.480 him or hat him for it? The origin of celebrity 0:03:55.480 --> 0:04:01.000 culture came from Leonard's lurid adolescent thoughts. Now, Lemley already 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.680 had the wonder Kin Thalberg as his assistant so Albright 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:07.360 hired Leonard is his He began grooming Leonard for production, 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.600 and even moved his family with them when all Bright 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:14.320 Classic Pictures migrated west. Once in California, Albright suggested that 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.880 Leonard changed his last name to something sharp so that 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.320 no one will ever forget it, And so Leonard Schuster 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:27.919 of Brooklyn, New York became Leonard Shaw of Hollywood, California. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.400 Shaw was a very quick learner, and Albright encouraged him 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.240 and implemented many of his ideas. Shawn knew a good 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.680 script when he read one, and recommended projects that garnered success. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.080 He also had an incredible eye for talent and took 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.239 an interest in building that talent in creating Albright's movie stars. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.400 Since social hob nobbing was inherent in that process, people 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.440 got to know him, and they genuinely liked him, and 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.120 because they liked him, they wanted to come work for 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.040 the studio. Leonard Shaw made all Bright Classic Pictures more 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.839 popular and more profitable than ever for and after only 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:07.400 four years, Daniel Albright made Leonard Shaw his partner. But 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:14.680 power tends to corrupt, remember, so while all Bright sat 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.479 happily in his office counting money, Shaw began to position 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:22.240 himself as the face of the studio. This eventually led 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.400 to Allbright's downfall. Daniel Albright found himself at the center 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.800 of a very public scandal. It involved a sexual encounter 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.080 with an actor by the name of Jack Lawrence, who 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.159 was under contract at the studio. Now. Back then, in 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.279 order to protect their image, almost every studio held their actors, directors, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.800 and producers to what was known as a morality clause. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:46.120 Among its many restrictions, one caveat specifically stated that you 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.200 couldn't be openly gay or bisexual. So in the news 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.000 of the affair threatened to derail his efforts. Shaw had 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.240 Lawrence banned from the lot, He acquired Albright shares, and 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.760 had any trace of the Albright name removed from the studio. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:07.440 Everything Albright had worked for crumbled, and overnight he disappeared 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:11.440 from Hollywood. Now here's something interesting I found. There may 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.520 be a reach, but I don't know. You tell me. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.920 In an interview done shortly after Albright's death, his son 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.200 revealed that his father was in fact gay, but had 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:25.000 always vehemently denied the affair with Lawrence. Albright maintained that 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.920 he met Lawrence only once and that was the extent 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.120 of their contact. His son's theory is that Shaw was 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:33.880 the one who leaked the false story in order to 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:43.080 force Allbright out absolute power, corrupt, absolutely enter Leonard Shaw 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.400 the monster. From that point forward, Shaw ruled what was 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:55.160 now classic pictures in proper dictatorial fashion. His employees were overworked, underpaid, 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.200 and his for the abusing. I mean, we heard Erwin 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:05.640 Fogelman say himself, h h, he's a prick. Say this. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.080 He's mean just for the sake of being mean, gets 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:13.840 his kicks humiliating people. Shaw appeased only the stars who 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.200 made him barrels of money, and threatened to end the 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.760 careers of those who didn't. But once he had another 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.040 success on his hands, he would turn on the charm 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.080 and start doling out praise to make everyone feel important. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:31.320 And they did feel important, and so they forgot. They 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.880 forgot that they were shaking hands with a monster. In 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.120 my research, I came across a quote of Shaws which 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:43.200 I think represents his values perfectly. When Casa Blanca won 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.480 the Academy Award for Best Picture, the studio had Jack Warner, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.880 who had nothing to do with the making of Casablanca, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.360 rushed the stage ahead of the movie's producer Halby Wallace, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.960 and accepted the award himself at the Governor's Ball that evening. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.480 Shaw told head A Hopper, That's the only time I've 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.800 agreed with anything Jack Warner has ever done. That's said. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.760 If I'm Wallace, Warner's getting a couple of teeth knocked 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:14.160 out tonight. Hey, I'm just here for the circus. I'm 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.360 pretty sure that Hank Briggs didn't have any interest in 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.640 the circus. All he wanted was to know who Marlene 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.160 was with the night of Shaw's party, the night that 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:29.000 she was murdered. This next tape I'm about to play 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.040 for you has not been edited in any way, shape 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.400 or form. It is in its entirety exactly as I 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:47.800 heard it the very first time. Testing to three, testing, 0:08:48.600 --> 0:09:05.440 testing one to three. H It's Friday night, twenty past three. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:20.959 Drivers early, Okay, off to meet Leonard Shaw. Here goes 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:32.080 Beverly Glen high Good. Oh, Beverly Glenn. I'll tell you 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:36.720 the houses on St. Pierre Sherard, tucked away, tucked away 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:46.200 on Cpierre Beverly Glenn. St. Pierre Nimes Road. Hey, thanks, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.920 you didn't have to get that for me. Imagine if 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:54.240 I couldn't open my own doors. That is a big house. 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.040 Oh yeah, you got me here, But am I gonna 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:02.360 get lost once I'm inside there? Wh are you sure? Eyes? 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.360 And how it doesn't live here? I am running the 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:12.240 wrong racket. Hey, I didn't catch your name. Nice to 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:27.480 meet you, too, penal Admer. You do not know he's sick. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.200 You got it, got it? And you only have ten 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.839 minutes with him? Okay, Jesus, everyone is so friendly around here. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.160 I'm serious. Yeah, that's what I was implying. I already 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.640 told you I'm not gonna take up his time. Now 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:41.800 you're gonna let me in? Or do I have to 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:50.760 yell at him from here ten minutes? I was told 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.680 Lois two staircases will look better than one, but she 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.520 didn't go for it. Oh come on, doc, not even 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.959 a smile. It's been a long day, all right, suit yourself. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.960 Follow me. He's waiting for you in the great room. 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:11.240 The great room. Do you tell him how we met? 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.200 Not exactly. I told him that you waiting for me 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:21.880 outside the lock. What you tell him about me? Nothing? Nothing? Nothing. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.720 I gave him your card, assuming that that would be 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.320 the end of Itding Yet here you are yet here? 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.920 I am can't for you look at all that green 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.800 must take him forever to Moa. How big is this place? 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:44.560 Nine acres na for what? Come on? Keep walking? Well? 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:50.440 Thanks for making this out, but Adler, I do appreciate it. Yeah, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:56.800 I don't think me yet, Mr Shaw. This is private 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.920 investigator Hank Breaks. It's nice to meet you. Mr Shaw. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.240 Thank you for take off the fucking trench coat. Pardon me? 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.320 You look like an idiot? Well, who do you think 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.319 you want? Bogart? You're not he died in January? Is 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.520 I show some respect? Take the coat off and sit 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:15.480 down an get him something to drink. What do you drink? No? No, wait, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.199 let me guess. Scotch whiskey man, Adla, get him a 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.920 scotch neat you know what? Make it too? His nose 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.400 looks a little red. Idler, don't be rude. Just get 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:30.520 him one, Adler. This is a very nice home you 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.000 have here, A very nice home. What is that Betty 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.679 Crockers Ship of cards? It's a nice home. It's goddamn lavish. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.960 Did you expect less? No? I just are you nervous? 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:46.560 You look nervous? Is it my size? My cane? I 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.480 hope it's not this old cane of mine disregarded. It's 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:54.120 only the discipline to help, Hank. I'm kidding. Lightening up 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:58.040 that second scotch might help, after all, are you pouring 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.320 it at this filling? At Jesus Sorry, bottle is almost empty. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.200 Handle put a new one. That shut up? I just 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:11.320 give him a drink already. Thanks Seddler. You've got some 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.679 very interesting pieces of art here, Mr Shaw. Thanks which 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.560 that No, that's not art, that's called the kinetoscope, a 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.319 peep show machine and antiquity of the film world. That's 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.199 from a friend with a bent's sense of humor. Anything 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.040 else you'd like to add mind before you tell me 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:37.679 why you're here, The books, the piano, actual art, not specifically. No, no, 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:42.440 he didn't strike me as much of an officiado. So 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.520 what brings you here today? Mr Hank Briggs? What the 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.200 hell is so interesting about? Little on me? First off, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.400 Mr Shan, thank you for Jesus Christ. What is this? 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.880 Thank you? Ordship? That's the second thank you I heard. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.480 The first one I just ignored it. Not so bright 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:02.280 this one. Let me be I don't care why you're here, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.560 only you do, so we either spit it out or 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.600 get the funk out. A woman by the name of 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.439 Marlene Murray Evans, the Angel of Vine, worked here the 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.439 night of March seventeenth, nineteen fifty six. It was the 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.400 last time she was seeing alive. The Angel of Vine 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.320 worked here. No, I don't think that's right. I'm fairly 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.480 certain it is, Mr Show fairly certain. Wow. Well, if 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.800 that's the case, then why are you asking the questions 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.080 and not the police? Because no one knew she was here? 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.240 No one. Nope. Let me give you a little hint. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.320 Mr Briggs called the caterers. They're the ones who do 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.760 the hiring. She wasn't with the kids. Yeah. I was 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.000 told you had a few questions, and you still haven't 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.480 asked anything. I think the person who killed her may 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.720 have been one of your guests. Still not a question. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.360 Who was at your party that night? God? Dare it is? You? See? 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.560 That wasn't so hard, now, was it? So? You want 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.560 to know who was a party in this house a 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.440 year and a half ago, and I know it was 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.280 a long time. What a colossal waste of my time? 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.360 Are you insane? Obviously? I don't expect you to remember. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.480 And what is your suggestion. I don't know. A copy 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:19.200 of the guest list maybe or a guest list. No, 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.560 there's no guest list. What do you think goes on here? 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.360 That we announced people as they enter, that I have 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.400 I have servants who break out the silver and fine china. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:33.320 What what? What? Place cards? Seating arrangements? People come when 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.760 they want, They eat with their hands. There's booze and 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.400 music and sometimes more than one. Somebody falls into a 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.480 pool with all their clothes on. That's a hell of 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.840 a good time. Well then just tell me the regulars. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:47.360 Everyone everyone attended my parties. I'm let it, fucking shaw. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.720 You're a woman is just a needle in a haystack. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:55.000 I'm sure she was here. Yeah, then how'd she get here? Huh? 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.840 Who'd she come with? You said it wasn't the caterers, 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.640 So who the hell would she working for? I can't 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:06.440 tell you that. You can't got the funk out of 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.560 my eyes, not until you give me some names. This 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.720 was her last stop before she was killed, and somebody 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.080 knows something or somebody saw something, and I will not 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:18.360 leave here without their necks. I would caution you to 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:22.520 be very careful, Mr Briggs. You're over confidence is skating 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.640 dangerously close to stupidity. Only one man has ever spoken 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.920 to me in that tone of voice about consequence, and 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.720 the only reason I let him off the hook is 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.440 because each and every word out of his mouth on 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.120 screen made me more money than the last. But your 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:39.360 words are worthless, So change you goddamn tone and fast. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.800 Mr Sherman. You know what. You don't have to change 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.320 a thing, silly me. I do remember now, there wasn't 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:53.480 a party, Not March seventeenth, anyway, maybe March sixteen, or 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.520 maybe the eighteenth, but definitely not the seventeen. I must 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.640 have been out of town that day. No party, no guests. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:05.040 You see nothing to be concerned about. You think this 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.840 is funny, sit down. A woman is dead. Becure me 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.720 have been in this house and you think there's something 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.880 that said over laughing out said yet goddamn mouth adler. 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.600 Nobody asked for your opinion, and I certainly don't meet 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.400 him in order to shut your yap. I didn't bring 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.480 you here to answer any of your questions. I brought 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.280 you here to show you just how insignificant you are. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.800 But she was here. But she was here, or show 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.119 me some fucking proof otherwise I can only assume that 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.920 you're just another dick searching for Hollywood dirt in the 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.800 want place here, Dan Will shouldn't be that I'd be 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:44.400 dumb enough to give you any you accidental detective. Oh oh, 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.280 that's a good stair hack. Yeah, that's an angry stare. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.520 I love it. And since you're still standing, why don't 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.680 you get that cheap coat off my furniture and the 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.480 adler's show you to the door, Because if I had 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:55.960 to tell you to get the funk out of my 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.040 house again, you will do so. In the back of 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.000 a squad car my draw. It will return you to 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.240 wherever it is that you came from. Let's go ahead. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:12.400 You're welcome. Thanks so much for the Scotch leo. Oh 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.280 of course, now it makes sense. Two pains in my ass. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.280 You tell Rwin Fogelman. I said to take a dive 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.280 up an overpass, and it doesn't matter which one. Don't 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.760 go make it waves and not in this water. It 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.720 will be better for you if I don't remember you 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:37.280 after today. Oh my god, damn door. Is that your 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.679 plan to get hot under the collar and insult the 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.560 man in his own home. Don't you lecture me? You 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.399 have any idea. What's construction? He knows something? All right? 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.760 You are delusion on the open called worse. Just give 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.880 me the help back to my office and don't think 0:18:50.880 --> 0:19:00.480 for a second. Excuse me, frank right, m hm. What 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.760 can I get for you? Just the water for now? 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:12.600 Slow night. Yeah, it's all right. Nice fish in the back. 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.680 He's expecting me. Yep, should it be? Keep the change. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:42.440 It's cool, man, water is free. I know. Thanks, Come 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:47.560 on in. What is it? Oh? Hell no, don't this time? 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.560 I brought mine too. Now show me your hands so 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.120 I can put this away. Man, what are you doing 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.000 back here? Didn't answer all your questions already? You did. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.480 I just didn't ask enough. That's not my problem. You're right, 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.639 it's mine, and there are people I need to answer to. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.520 I couldn't get the show. No, I got to the 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.360 son of a bitch. Let me guess. He said there 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.600 wasn't no party. No, he said there was a party, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.480 and he said you were there me. He's lying. He 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.400 says you picked the girls up after they were done. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.880 That's a lie, it's what he said. Man. I ain't 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.919 never been up Beverly Hills or Belle Are whatever the 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.159 hell these people are from. You're kidding me. I'll be 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.919 arrested before I got passed Western Maybe what do I know? 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:31.440 But if there's even a chance that you were the 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.399 last person to see here before she died, then I 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.920 got to report it to the people in charge. Man, 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.760 it's a bullshit. You don't want to lose this club, 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:44.440 do you? Fish? It's a nice club. Goddamn it, storeship, 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.560 That's what this is right here. I can't have nothing nice, 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:54.080 can't leave nothing to hell along here, take that and 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.280 get your damn proof or whatever the hell it is. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.440 You need to leave me alone. Virginia Hanley worked the 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.879 party with her that night. She'll tell you I wouldn't 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:10.159 to win near the Viginia. Are we done here? Hey? Yeah, 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:15.560 yes we're done. Thank you? No? Oh, now you polite? 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.439 Why don't you just let me get back to my business. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:32.160 I should shoot this man in the back. Guy, nothing, 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.440 that's nonsense. You're not so good at a job, are 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.560 you me? Me? You're looking at me? Would I just 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.280 come say? Oh, you sign a bitch? Who you're working for? Shan? 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:47.200 You're telling me for sean row window down, run it down? 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.639 Look at me? You want to smash it? In. I 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.760 look at me now, now, okay, go ahead, keep it out. 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.800 I think a good look. Go on? Look? Fuck what 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.720 you shy all of a sudden. You've been following me 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:01.960 some last night. You don't want to get a good 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:07.760 long look at my pretty face? See cheese, you yellow bastard. Now, 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.400 I don't cheese looks like I think a good look 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:14.679 at this? You see it? I see you again. I 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.480 swear to God, I'll use it. Get out of here. 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:38.960 You is it? Okay? Yeah, it's excuse me, excuse me, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:43.919 miss Virginia Hamley. No, no, no no, please wait, do you 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.600 have a minute. Can you slow down now? I just 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:51.320 need to My name is Hank Briggs. Oh my god, 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:57.119 it's you. Sorry, you must have me mistakes. You're a 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.040 cigarette girl. Didn't I already tell you? Just told me 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.720 you were a friend. Hey, I really need your help. 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.399 I know about Fish Shaw. You were at the party 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:24.480 with her? Yeah? Yeah, I was. Were you together the 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:30.080 whole night until around eleven o'clock? What happened? She wouldn't 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:35.320 get on the bus? What bus? The bus? Fish arranges them. 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.840 They took us to and from the parties with the musicians. 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.080 They were all left back to Hollywood, that they were 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:46.480 always different. That scar on your arm, it's nothing. Did 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:50.119 you get that from? When it shows? Why did you 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.600 leave her that night? I didn't leave her. I'm sorry. 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.280 I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say you. You left her? 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.760 Why did she choose to stay? I didn't want to stay. 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:03.760 I didn't want her to stay. What do you think 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:08.119 she stayed? When I was ready to go, I found 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.360 her near the kitchen. She'd been crying, so I took 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.439 her to the ladies room so she could fix herself up. 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.520 Why was she crying? Shaw's parties can get a little 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:22.320 out of hand, a little wild. But but she was 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.320 a good girl, always was. But he got the wrong idea, 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.719 assumed she would I want to join him in the 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.639 pool house? Who they had an argument about it that 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:35.400 the argument started days before. But she didn't think that 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.960 she would see him that night, so hold of her. 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.720 He wasn't worth it. I told her she could stay 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.119 with me that night. We would we would get pancakes, 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.560 and she could stay with me. And she wanted to 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.840 finish it. I told her she was being silly. How 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:54.520 will you get home? I'll get home, I promise. I 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.320 made a promise. She wouldn't go to the pool house. 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.040 I made a promise she wouldn't leave with him. And 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.399 you who who did she promise she wouldn't leave with? 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:10.680 Was it Shaw? No? Not Shaw? Who the doctor? What doctor? 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:14.800 It's from the paper house? Adver Harrison? What was he 0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.440 doing there? What do you mean he was at all 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.200 of Shaw's parties? Are you sure that's where he first 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:25.600 recognized her as the girl from work? I told her 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.000 to get on the bus. I made her promise. Why 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.760 didn't you go to the police? He was cleared, not 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:37.120 immediately what No, he but he was cleared. They wouldn't 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:43.119 have believed me. They needed to know. I swear to 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.320 you that that's where this tape ended. And when I 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.639 heard it, I scared the dog, yelling are you kidding me? 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.000 So now we know that Marlene was definitely at the party, 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.199 and so was Adler. So he lied to Hank? So 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.479 did he kill her? After all? We know that they 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.359 had an argument that started days before. Perhaps that was 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.000 the argument that the security guard told the press about. 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.720 Either way, was he the last person to see her alive? 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:18.280 We don't know, but we do know that there's a 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:23.840 mysterious poolhouse and whatever went on in that poolhouse. Marlene 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:30.680 was not meant to see whatever it was. 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