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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Sean Coleman.

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Speaker 1: Hope, wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you

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Speaker 1: had an excellent Thursday getting ready for a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: And if you are a Braves fan, yes, it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four hours ago the Braves season ended for the

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Speaker 1: twenty and twenty four season. And yes, why I think

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Speaker 1: that many and I'll include myself in that may have

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Speaker 1: found a bit sad this morning that the season was over.

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Speaker 1: As always, my podcast partner Stephen Tolbert is with me. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: I can say this, Yes, a bit sad, a bit bittersweet,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: I think I see a few people say it.

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Speaker 1: It just it was and I think I saw you

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Speaker 1: say it just a little bit ago on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: It was time. It was just time for this season

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Speaker 2: to be done.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We we had accomplished what felt like was gonna be

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Speaker 1: our ceiling this year.

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Speaker 2: And and while we may.

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Speaker 1: Not have gone out in the most you know, best

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Speaker 1: of fashion, overall, it seems like, hey, not too disappointed

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Speaker 1: with how the season ended.

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Speaker 2: It was the right time for its end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up, Sean?

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Speaker 3: It was a frustrating end for sure, you know, not

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Speaker 3: having your pitchers available for the postseason.

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Speaker 4: The hurricane happened, Chris Sale got hurt.

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Speaker 3: You had the you know, bad game on Sunday against

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Speaker 3: k C, which would have made your life a lot

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Speaker 3: easier if you won. You had the doubleheader with the

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Speaker 3: Mets with the blown lead in the first game, and

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Speaker 3: then the two games in San Diego were you know,

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Speaker 3: the first one was I don't think the first one

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Speaker 3: was all that competitive. I think the second it's very

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Speaker 3: when competitive. The Braves probably should have won.

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Speaker 4: The second one.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm it's a weird it's a weird feeling

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Speaker 3: anytime the season ends, because obviously we you know, what

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Speaker 3: we do here and doing the podcast and writing for

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Speaker 3: Her Battery Power. We're pretty heavily invested in this stuff,

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Speaker 3: and so we spend a lot of time, a ton

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Speaker 3: of time actually all you know, all season in the

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Speaker 3: spring training, you know, all throughout the season covering the team,

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Speaker 3: and when it ends, there is a weird feeling, and

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Speaker 3: it's it's a combination of sadness but also in this case,

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Speaker 3: a bit of relief. Honestly, I mean, I'm sitting here

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Speaker 3: watching the Mets and the Brewers play a playoff game,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I don't have any emotional attachment really

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Speaker 3: to it, and it's just more enjoyable, quite honestly. I mean,

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Speaker 3: watching the Braves this year became quite a chore, if

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Speaker 3: I'm being honest, more of a chore than I remember

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Speaker 3: in any season, and largely because of the offensive frustrations,

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Speaker 3: where it just felt like we watched the same game

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Speaker 3: every night and it just came down to whether or

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Speaker 3: not the pitching could could hold the other team, you know,

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Speaker 3: three runs or less, and if they could, then the

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Speaker 3: Brace had a good chance of winning. If they couldn't,

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Speaker 3: then the Brace had a really good chance of losing.

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Speaker 3: And it just became a chore, quite honestly. And you know,

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Speaker 3: it's funny. I was thinking about this. I didn't fully

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Speaker 3: understand how much how much they're like really fun. Part

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Speaker 3: of the team is tied to Ronald Acuna Jujunior and

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Speaker 3: Spencer Streider until this year, like those two guys haven't

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Speaker 3: Watching those two guys play baseball is some of the

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Speaker 3: most fun I've ever had watching baseball. And when you

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Speaker 3: take those guys out of the lineup, there's just the

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Speaker 3: joy factor of watching the team goes down more than

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Speaker 3: you would think with just two players out of you know,

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Speaker 3: twenty six. But yeah, it was just time. It was

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Speaker 3: time for the season. And the way they were playing,

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Speaker 3: the Padres are just playing miles and miles better than them,

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Speaker 3: and roll teams are better than them, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was, I was ready for the season

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Speaker 1: Now, I think that that's something that that definitely is worth,

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Speaker 1: you know, diving a bit more into is that it

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Speaker 1: just the fun of watching the Braves with the excitement

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Speaker 1: win the next game, what could that open up?

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Speaker 2: What could the possibilities be there?

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Speaker 1: You want to have that when you're in the playoffs, right,

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Speaker 1: you want to think about this ceiling. You want to

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Speaker 1: think about all the possibilities that are out there, and

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Speaker 1: with each win, how much closer the ultimate prize is

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Speaker 1: to be in reality. I can I remember back in

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Speaker 1: feeling with this team, right, I never truly had that

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Speaker 1: and how frequently they occurred to our best players, how

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Speaker 1: many games, time after time, we saw this team not

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Speaker 1: bad approach in the other. And what I'm getting at

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Speaker 1: is that the injuries, the bad luck, the overall bad performance,

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Speaker 1: constantly thinking, Okay, what negative thing is going to happen next?

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Speaker 1: How is about of you know, bad luck going to

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Speaker 1: top what previously happened. I don't want to sit here

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Speaker 1: and be too negative, but that's kind of the feeling

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Speaker 1: that I had. And when I say that it felt

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Speaker 1: like it was the right time for the season to end,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the team felt like that, but that's

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Speaker 1: kind of how I feel many and Braves Country felt

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Speaker 1: sums up this team either met it ceiling with all

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Speaker 1: it went through, or even exceeded it, but at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, it just was not a fun

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Speaker 1: the stuff that they couldn't control piling up on them

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. I was watching, you know, obviously we

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Speaker 4: And I was just thinking, even.

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Speaker 3: When the Braves were going well this year, I never

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Speaker 3: And one hundred percent, I mean, it's definitely most contributed

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Speaker 3: Best players when you talk about you know, Akunya Strider

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Speaker 3: it was a weird season. It was unlike any season

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Speaker 3: they had a positive run differential, you know, easily positive

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Speaker 3: because so much of it was like the same game

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Speaker 3: You just had to sit there and watch the offense

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Speaker 3: and you know, it was just a frustrating year to watch,

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Speaker 3: quite honestly, And I do I do think some things

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Speaker 4: I don't think and.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into this little bit more in a minute,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think it's just the injuries that caused

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that all offseason. Then it's

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Speaker 3: just like it was just the injuries. I do think

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Speaker 3: the injuries are a huge part of it. But I

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Speaker 3: do think there's some nuances there that I hope gets

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Speaker 3: it was just time for this season to end.

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Speaker 1: So Stephen, Scott and Brad did, as they always do,

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Speaker 1: did an excellent job breaking down Game two, and we

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Speaker 1: won't go you know, in depth with it, you know,

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The first that stands out to me is Max Breed.

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Speaker 1: You know, me and h you talked about it on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We were highly confident going into Game two. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of reasons to be motivated to do well.

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Speaker 1: He had come off one of the best starts we've

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Speaker 1: But in the second inding, you know what, five infield

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Speaker 1: But it was also another postseason start, Stephen, where we

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Speaker 1: saw some weird stuff going on. The infield hits, Max

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Speaker 2: This is not the.

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Speaker 1: First time last year, you know, the blister that he

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Speaker 1: struggles overall. When you look at Max Freed in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: his numbers suggest that he has struggled in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: and he has, but he also played a huge role

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Speaker 1: I know that some will point to his postseason struggles

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Speaker 1: into his postseason starts, there's been some weird scenarios. What

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Speaker 3: Max did not have a good night, and he's had

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Speaker 1: And I'll elaborate on this as we go into the postseason.

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Speaker 1: I think the top five pictures in Braves franchise history,

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Speaker 1: I think the top five pictures in Braves franchise history

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Speaker 1: So Steve, what I'm getting at is I think orgees Celaire,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think they were probably hoping for maybe

439
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Speaker 3: one level more than they they got from him in

440
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Speaker 3: terms of the whole you know, two months he was

441
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Speaker 3: with the team, But you know, I think he was

442
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 3: pretty close to being what they hoped he would be,

443
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Speaker 3: at least offensively. I think the defense was probably worse

444
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Speaker 3: than they thought it would be and that's going to

445
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Speaker 3: play a factor into what they do this offseason. But yeah,

446
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: the Braves do need I mean, they need guys who

447
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: can take walks. And I'm gonna say that probably a

448
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 3: thousand times between now and you know, when the roster's

449
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 3: done being built for the twenty twenty five season, that

450
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: the Braves need guys who could take walks. The Braves

451
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: need guys who can stare at bad pitches and literally

452
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 3: keep the bat on their shoulder because they just don't

453
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: have enough of that in this lineup and just too

454
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Speaker 3: many times they have guys just whiling away at terrible

455
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: pitches and get you know, get themselves out of rallies

456
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Speaker 3: and and help pitchers out. And they just need more guys.

457
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Speaker 3: And Ronnie is a big part of that, getting Ronnie back.

458
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Speaker 3: You know, Ronnie always runs like a thirteen fourteen percent

459
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Speaker 3: walk rad. He's an elite, you know, elite plate discipline

460
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Speaker 3: guy in that in that manner.

461
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Speaker 4: Riley's pretty good.

462
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Speaker 3: But they need, they need more more players in the

463
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Speaker 3: lineup they can take walks, and you know, so Larry

464
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Speaker 3: can do that. So it is gonna be very see

465
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Speaker 3: what they do with him. Obviously over the next three months.

466
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Speaker 1: One other thing that I ad I think that you know,

467
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Speaker 1: also needs to have a spotlight put on it from

468
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Speaker 1: the past two games.

469
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Speaker 2: And even Monday.

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Speaker 1: You know, one thing that I feel like that you know,

471
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Speaker 1: I've been a bit critical of when it comes to

472
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Speaker 1: the Brave is that they've not really you know, we

473
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Speaker 1: just saw the Padres, you know, their bullpen. I know that,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, some of the pieces were traded for, but

475
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Speaker 1: there are also some of their pieces.

476
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Speaker 2: That they have developed.

477
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Speaker 1: The Padres seem like they have developed some pretty good

478
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Speaker 1: relievers over the years. The breaks not so much in

479
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Speaker 1: terms of developing their own relievers. Aj mentor Dylan Lee. Yes,

480
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Speaker 1: they've done well when it comes to left handers. But

481
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Speaker 1: you go back to Tuesday night, game one of the

482
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Speaker 1: Wildcrord series, Aaron Bummer looked really good, and Steven, I

483
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: don't know of anyone who has been a bigger source

484
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Speaker 1: of support for Aaron Bummer than yourself, you know, with

485
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Speaker 1: the fact that it just seems like Brian Snigger hasn't

486
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Speaker 1: trusted me all trusted him all year long. Many have

487
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: wanted Dazbel Hernandez to get, you know, a really good

488
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: look in the Majors and he looked good in Game two.

489
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Speaker 1: I know that our back end of our bullpen is

490
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Speaker 1: pretty much set for next year, but I do think

491
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Speaker 1: there are going to be a few spots to feel good.

492
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Speaker 1: Holmes has shown what he can do as a versaal

493
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Speaker 1: option out of the pen. He may be Jesse chaves replacement,

494
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Speaker 1: but the point that I'm excited about is that when

495
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Speaker 1: it comes to our bullpen.

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the back end of our.

497
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Speaker 1: Bullpen may be spoken for next year, especially if winter

498
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Speaker 1: comes back, but we've got some depth now, and if

499
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Speaker 1: there could be more trust put on Bummer as well

500
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Speaker 1: as Hernandez and Homes for instance, maybe using them more

501
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Speaker 1: in high leverage situations can ensure that our bullpen stays

502
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Speaker 1: as fresh as possible for the postseason. It was really

503
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Speaker 1: good to see some of our you know, bullpen depth

504
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Speaker 1: that we've developed in recent years really step up. I

505
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Speaker 1: know he acquired Bummer, but really step up and deliver

506
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Speaker 1: over the past couple of days.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am curious to see what Dais Bell does

508
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Speaker 3: next year. I'm very curious to see what role that

509
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Speaker 3: Aaron Bummer has. You know, the Braves have to pick

510
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Speaker 3: up his arbitration number, and it's not going to be cheap.

511
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Speaker 3: So you know, well, a guy like Bummer, it's tough

512
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Speaker 3: to pay that amount of money if you're not going

513
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Speaker 3: to use him on high leverage. And the Braves should

514
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Speaker 3: use him high leverage, but they absolutely did not use

515
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Speaker 3: him in high leverage in twenty twenty four, So you know,

516
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: Alex's decisional whether or not to keep him around at

517
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Speaker 3: that number, and I don't have.

518
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Speaker 4: The number right in front of me.

519
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Speaker 3: I know the arbitration numbers got released a couple of

520
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: days ago, but it's I'm guessing it's around eight or

521
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Speaker 3: nine million. Having a guy in your roster who makes

522
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: that much money who's not a high leverage reliever is

523
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Speaker 3: a tough place to be. So you know, they're they're

524
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Speaker 3: probably going to have to talk to Snit about he like, hey,

525
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: this dude's really good. Maybe use him in bigger situations

526
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 3: than just clean up, you know, cleaning up other guy's messes,

527
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Speaker 3: which is what basically what he did all of twenty

528
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Speaker 3: twenty four. And Day's Bill's you know, Day's Bill still

529
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Speaker 3: has to work on his command. But yeah, the back

530
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Speaker 3: end of the bullpen, I mean, the ball, the whole

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Speaker 3: bullpen all year had was unbelievable, honestly. I mean, you know,

532
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Speaker 3: it's funny, Sean. I've I've read a lot of recaps

533
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Speaker 3: of the season so far. In the in the last

534
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Speaker 3: twenty four hours, everybody's writing their like end of season recaps,

535
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Speaker 3: and it's talking about all the things that went wrong

536
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Speaker 3: for the team, and I don't think enough it's been

537
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Speaker 3: made about all the things that went right in twenty

538
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Speaker 3: twenty four, like all the good fortune the Braves had

539
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. You know, Chris Saale being at

540
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Speaker 3: the top of that list, being a cy young guy

541
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Speaker 3: for the first time in like six years. You know,

542
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Speaker 3: Renaldo Lopez turning into a starter from being a reliever

543
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Speaker 3: in the last four years and being unbelievable in that role.

544
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Speaker 4: No one saw that coming.

545
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Speaker 3: Spencer Swallenbach coming out of nowhere.

546
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Speaker 4: But also the you know.

547
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Speaker 3: Rossio Iglesias and Jojanmannez having the seasons they had where

548
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Speaker 3: they were both top ten, you know, top ten relievers

549
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Speaker 3: in baseball, and that was kind of out of nowhere.

550
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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought those guys could be good, but

551
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: like no one expected them to be that good.

552
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Speaker 4: And that was a.

553
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Speaker 3: Big part of this season. And it's not necessarily a

554
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Speaker 3: part of the season. You can guarantee that's gonna happen

555
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Speaker 3: again next year. Bullpens are just so volatile, so you know,

556
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Speaker 3: I do think they need to lean on Aaron bummermore.

557
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Speaker 3: I am curious to see what they do around these guys.

558
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: You know, Pierce Johnson will be back. I think he

559
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: signed a two year deal last offseason, so he'll be back.

560
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Speaker 3: The bullpen is gonna be interesting.

561
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Speaker 4: It should be good.

562
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Speaker 3: You know, Alex usually builds a pretty good bullpen, so

563
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Speaker 3: I have faith that it'll be good. But I'm guessing

564
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: the names will be different, and I am I'm hoping

565
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: they use Aaron Balmer a little more than they did

566
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Well, Stephen, when they acquired him, they they definitely wanted

568
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Speaker 1: to make sure they had him for multiple years. Looking

569
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Speaker 1: up to the contract numbers, it actually is pretty decent.

570
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Speaker 1: They have team options for him for the next two

571
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Speaker 1: years at around seven seven and a quarter million.

572
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Speaker 4: For Okay, so it's seven and a quarter yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but it's not only for twenty twenty five twenty

574
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Speaker 1: twenty six as well. I believe I believe I looked

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Speaker 1: that up correctly, so, but I agree, especially if you're

576
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Speaker 1: going to be without a g mentor you just got

577
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Speaker 1: a trust him. You've got to trust him because he

578
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Speaker 1: shows stuff that that that is very hard to hit

579
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Speaker 1: at times. I know that, you know, he's had a

580
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: bit of a history of you know, hey, his his

581
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: actual number are much worse than his expected numbers. But

582
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Speaker 1: at some point you got to trust him, and they

583
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: did in Game one, and I think that he.

584
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Speaker 2: Showed his worth.

585
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Speaker 1: But of course, the biggest thing of all that stands

586
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Speaker 1: out if we're going to take what occurred this postseason

587
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Speaker 1: and we're going to broaden it out to say, Okay,

588
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Speaker 1: what does this mean for the near term future as

589
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Speaker 1: we look to shape up the offseason. Steven, you said

590
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Speaker 1: it yourself. You pointed this out ten games over the

591
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: past three years, and we've scored twenty five runs. And

592
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Speaker 1: I'll honestly say this, I feel like that last night's

593
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: offensive performance was arguably the best that we've seen. That

594
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Speaker 1: may have been the best offensive game that the Braves

595
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Speaker 1: have had in the postseason since they won the twenty

596
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Speaker 1: twenty one World Series, maybe Game two of the twenty

597
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: three playoffs. But they hit multiple homers, they put good

598
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: contact on the ball multiple other times that just didn't

599
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: work out. But me having to defend last night, this

600
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Speaker 1: game is being one of the best offensive games they've

601
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Speaker 1: had over the past three postseasons. That is what sticks

602
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: out to me is a stroke. I get small sample size,

603
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: and I get that it's a crapshoot, but I do

604
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: think that something that certainly is there for a takeaway.

605
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Speaker 1: And it's especially I feel more valid after we saw

606
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Speaker 1: the same things pop up during the regular season this

607
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: year that have consistently popped up in the postseason. Is

608
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: that you pointed it out. Approaches need to change when

609
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: it comes to our offensive game plan because if they

610
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: don't and we're not hitting home runs, we are going

611
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Speaker 1: to likely continue to struggle when we face quality pitching

612
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Speaker 1: in the postseason. That's happened three straight postseasons in a row.

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Speaker 1: But whatever value you want in a tend game sample size,

614
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Speaker 1: but it is a bit concerning and I think needs

615
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Speaker 1: to be a bigger part of how we shape our

616
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Speaker 1: off season. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's how you get judged. Like it's not fair,

618
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: but that's how you get judged. And the truth of

619
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Speaker 3: the matter is the last three postseasons, the Braves have

620
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Speaker 3: gotten not just beaten, but dominated. In all three of

621
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Speaker 3: this series they've played two against the Phillies and obviously

622
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Speaker 3: this one against San Diego. They scored twenty five runs

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Speaker 3: total in those ten games, you know, two point five

624
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Speaker 3: runs a game. Maybe more concerning is, you know, over

625
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Speaker 3: those ten games is ninety innings, and of the ninety

626
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Speaker 3: innings they played in those three series, they only led

627
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Speaker 3: in four.

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Speaker 4: Of those innings.

629
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Speaker 3: So that's how that's how much they've been dominated in

630
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: the last three years in postseason play. And listen, when

631
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Speaker 3: you're a team, don't that's trying to win a World

632
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: Series and this is the this is the the results

633
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: you're putting up in the first round of your playoff series.

634
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Speaker 3: You know, multiple years in a row, the GM, the manager, like,

635
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: at some point those guys start feeling the heat for that,

636
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: Like that's just the nature of the beast. Like is

637
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: it is it terribly fair? No, because again it's it's

638
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: ten it's a ten game sample, and baseball at ten

639
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: game sample is nothing. But these are the most important

640
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: games of the year. And you can't just you can't

641
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: just get dog locked the way the Braves have the

642
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: last three years and continue that into the future and

643
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: eventually feel the heat from it. And I thought Scott

644
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: and Brad. Scott and Brad had a really good show

645
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: last night. You know, they did about a full hour

646
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Speaker 3: about talking about the game and the season, and I

647
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: thought they brought up a good point, like if twenty

648
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: twenty one hadn't happened, And you know, because the Braves

649
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: got knocked out of the first round in eighteen, they

650
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: got knocked out in the first round in nineteen, I

651
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: don't count twenty twenty. That was a I mean, that

652
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: was the COVID year. Playoff games were in neutral sites,

653
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: there were no fans. I don't count twenty twenty. If

654
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: you take all the full seasons, which has been six

655
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: full seasons, the Braves have been knocked out of the

656
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: first round in five of them and won the World

657
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: Series in the other. And if twenty twenty hadn't twenty

658
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: twenty one hadn't happened, the conversation about Alex and the

659
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: Braves and snit would be very different right now. If

660
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: they had just continued this run of just getting just

661
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 3: skull dragged in the first round of the playoffs, you know,

662
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: the murmurs would be quite a bit louder, but twenty

663
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: twenty one buys you some time. But I do think

664
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: if we're at the same spot next year, like if

665
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: we're having the same conversation next year, and again I

666
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: think Scott said this last night. If if the twenty

667
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: twenty five postseason goes like twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,

668
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty four has gone, We're gonna have a

669
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: different conversation about like and Thopless snicker, like, you can't

670
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: just keep getting destroyed in the first round of the

671
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: playoffs and not have it ever come back on you,

672
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, as the people in charge of the franchise,

673
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: so you know those you know, the injuries are gonna

674
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: save them from a lot of that. This offseason, most

675
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: people are just gonna wrap it up in the injuries

676
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: and kind of just you know, throw it out as

677
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: is not much you can do about it. But if

678
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: it happens again next year and it's four years in

679
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: a row of this, the conversation is going to be

680
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: very different.

681
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: And that's where I think acknowledgment in the present is important.

682
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: I can't speak for anybody else, but I am a huge,

683
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: huge believer in Alexanthopolis if it's twelve months from now

684
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: and we're having this same conversation, I'm still not going

685
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: to be an advocate for parting ways with Alexanthopolis. I'm

686
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: a huge believer in what he does and how he

687
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: does it, and I feel that he is going to

688
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: make the necessary changes because we've seen him do it

689
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: time and time again. But I say that to say

690
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: this when I talk about acknowledgment last year, in the

691
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: next forty eight hours, we're likely going to see Alexanthopolilis's

692
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: exit interview into the year statements, whatever you want to

693
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: call it. Last year at this time when he had that,

694
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: he brought up a good lot of logical points for

695
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: the reasons why the Braves had gotten thoroughly beaten by

696
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: the Phillies two straight years, but why there shouldn't be

697
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: much change to the overall makeup of the team. Alex

698
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: talked about how he trusted his core with how well

699
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: they had played during the regular season, how he couldn't

700
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: really put too much emphasis on a four game sample size,

701
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, and those points still exists

702
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: as being logical a year later. Injuries definitely played a

703
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: big part in the Braves' overall stealing as well. But

704
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: the big difference between what Alex Andthopolis said then and

705
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: what he said now, We've had a whole regular season

706
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: of the same issues that plagued the Braves in the

707
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty three playoffs. It gotten their way

708
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: from being where they truly wanted to be all season one.

709
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: So it has become a bigger concern for this team,

710
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: and I want to see that acknowledge, Like, I'm not

711
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: going to sit here and you know, just completely change

712
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: my mind opinion of Alex and thoppless if he mainly

713
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: talks about injuries or small sample size or whatever when

714
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: he's asked about, you know, another year playoff struggles, but

715
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: I want to see, you know, what he has to

716
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: say about the fact that the riding is on the wall,

717
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: that the Braves offensive approach, it definitely has room for improvement.

718
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm really hoping to see Alex

719
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: look at. And last year he acknowledged that pitching needed

720
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: to be improved. He went out made the moves that

721
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: he made in the off season and the results were

722
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: better than anybody expected. Not necessarily saying that's going to

723
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: happen for this offense. Also don't think there's going to

724
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: be a lot of changes, But in terms of the

725
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: approach for this team, I think that needs to be

726
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: a focus, and I hope that he acknowledges that in

727
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: his comments in the next day or so.

728
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

729
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I've said a bunch on the show.

730
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: The injuries are are probably the biggest factor in what

731
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: happened this season, but they are certainly not the only thing.

732
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: And I have gotten annoyed with people that have kind

733
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: of whitewashed it under the headline of well, they just

734
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: had a bunch of injuries and just leave it at that.

735
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: I think that I think that's just an incomplete I

736
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: think that's an incomplete view of what happened in twenty

737
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: twenty four. The injuries are a big part of it,

738
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: but the Braves offensive approach has been has been exposed

739
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: a bit. And when you build the entire thing out

740
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: of hitting home runs like they have, and Chipper talked

741
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: a little bit about this in the podcast that he did,

742
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: you got to hit so many homers like the Braves

743
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: still had were like top five and homers this year,

744
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: but their offense wasn't nearly the same because they didn't

745
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: have the on base percentage to go with it, so

746
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: it was a lot of solo home runs and even

747
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: being top five in homers this year, they still hit

748
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: like a hundred or so less homers than they did

749
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: last year, which is of course a ton of runs

750
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: to remove from any lineup and still be as good.

751
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: So the offensive approach is definitely something I want to

752
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: hear him talk about. I want to hear what he

753
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: has to say about that. You know, pitchers getting hurt

754
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: right before the postseason, that's just I mean, it's honestly,

755
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: it's bad luck. Like I don't know, I don't know

756
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: what can be done about that.

757
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 4: Honestly. I mean the Braves.

758
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: I thought the Braves did about everything you could do.

759
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 4: In terms of resting guy.

760
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean the Brave I honestly, I thought the Braves

761
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: went too far and resting guys in the regular season

762
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: at times.

763
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 4: You know, instead of banking.

764
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: Wins early in the year, they they they punted a

765
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: lot of games to try to get these guys to October,

766
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: and in the end, you know, they didn't get any

767
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: of the dividends that they were hoping they would get,

768
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: and still punted games in April May and June, and

769
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 3: I'm guessing if they had it to do over again,

770
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: they would have probably banked a few more of those

771
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: wins early in the season, and you know, knowing that

772
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: they weren't going to get these guys healthy to October

773
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: either way. But the offensive approach is something that has

774
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: to improve, and some of that is talent. They got

775
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: to get a real shortstop, you know they need. You know,

776
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: the Jared Kelnick thing really did not work this year.

777
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm very curious to see what they do in left

778
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: field with him, if he's the starter again or if

779
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: they try to do something else, because that was it

780
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 3: that that did not go well. I mean, Ramon Loreano

781
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: essentially just took his job from him in like June

782
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: or July and never gave it back, and so I'm

783
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: curious to see what they do there. I want them

784
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: to get a little bit more left handed help. I've

785
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: said that in multiple times, but the offensive approach is

786
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: definitely the number one thing I'm I'm curious to hear

787
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: about when Alex talks, probably tomorrow or the next day,

788
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: because I don't I don't think that can just be swept.

789
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: Under the rugs.

790
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Well, we had injuries, because even when guys played, they

791
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: were substantially worse than than they normally are. And you know,

792
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: is Kevin Sitz are gonna be back? Are they gonna

793
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: look to do things a little bit differently? Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

794
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: I'm okay hearing mostly about the injuries. I'm not okay

795
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: hearing entirely about the injuries. I do want some accountability

796
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: for you know, I think they mismanaged the rotation a

797
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: little bit early in the season by giving all these

798
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: guys all that rest and not getting any of the

799
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: dividends from it later on. And I do think they

800
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: need to talk about the offensive approach and in ways

801
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: that maybe gonna look, you know, to do that differently.

802
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

803
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: And if you're going into the start of this offseason

804
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: and you look at the Braves in the playoffs, and

805
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: you you know, you see, for instance, the fact that

806
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: it seemed like so many times during the regular season,

807
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: and and you know, we saw it happen multiple times

808
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You know, we had Ramon Loreano and

809
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Gio Ursula up in big moments, and you think to yourself, well, listen,

810
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: next year, it's gonna be Ronald Acuna Junior and and

811
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: Alex Rillyan for those guys, and you're gonna have much

812
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: better options in there in those big moments he had.

813
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: There's some truth to that, but it's also worth pointing

814
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: out that Ronald Acunya Junior was not playing anywhere near his.

815
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: MVP level to start this season.

816
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean that as I mean it as a

817
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, stay in fact, you can take it as

818
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: criticism if you want, but I don't mean that as saying,

819
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: you know that what Ronald 'cunya Junior did in twenty

820
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: twenty three was aflok. I don't mean that at all.

821
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: Austin Riley was striking out at a nearly forty percent

822
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: clip with runners in scoring position. He struggl mightily with

823
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: runners in scoring position. So when we talk about the

824
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: offensive approach changing, that doesn't mean multiple big trades where

825
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: we trade guys who we extended for you know, nearly

826
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: a decade two years ago, trading them off. It's just

827
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: getting a different approach at the plate to be able

828
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: to deliver in big moments. Because again, the Braves tied

829
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: the record for most home runs hit in a season

830
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, that likely is not a sustainable rate.

831
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: Of hitting home runs, and home runs are very important

832
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: to hit in the postseason, but you also have to

833
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: be a reliable hitting unit in situation. Your situational hitting

834
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: has to be good if the home runs are not there,

835
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: and that has clearly become a major flaw for this

836
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: raised team to get where they want to get. And

837
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I think to me, and that's why I would like

838
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: for Alex and Thoppless to acknowledge it. I think that's

839
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway from this season and should really be

840
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: at the core of shaping the offseason approach. Stephen, do

841
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: you have anything to add as we wrap up this

842
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: edition of the Hammer Territory podcast.

843
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it was a good season. It was

844
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: it was you know, it was a frustrating season. But

845
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: I do I do think it is important to keep

846
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: perspective that there are plenty of franchises out there out

847
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: there that would love for this to be you know,

848
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: would love eighty nine wins in a playoff Berth to

849
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: be their like hyper frustrating season. Right, So some of

850
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: this is Champagne problems, right, where like the Braves are

851
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: just always.

852
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: Good and.

853
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: You know, we do lose perspective as fans sometimes about

854
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: how bad some other teams are, like the Colorado Rockies

855
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: would kill to have the season the Braves just had.

856
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: And you know, for Braves fans, it feels like a

857
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: pretty disappointing year. So it is important to keep perspective.

858
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: And I said this the other night that eighty nine

859
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: wins is not easy. Making the playoffs is not easy.

860
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: Those things need to be celebrated. But you know, for

861
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: the Braves, who have plainly stated that their goal is

862
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: to win the World Series every year, you know, to

863
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: get to get demolished in the playoffs three straight years

864
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: to go home after the first series. They've won two

865
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: out of their last ten playoff games. You know, they

866
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: clearly have some areas of the team that need to

867
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: be better. They clearly have some approach issues that need

868
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: to get better. You know, they're gonna have to replace

869
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 3: Max Freed almost certainly, they're probably gonna have to replace

870
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: Charlie Morton. They got two d hs on the team currently,

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Speaker 3: they don't have a shortstop on the team. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: this is a big offseason, like there's a lot, there's

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Speaker 3: a lot to do. You know, last year the offseason,

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Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot to do quite honestly. I mean

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Speaker 3: they needed another pitcher. They got Chris Sayle, They you know,

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Speaker 3: they re signed Joe Jimenez and Pierce Johnson, and they

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Speaker 3: traded for Kelnick. That's pretty much all they really needed

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Speaker 3: to do last year. That is not the case this year.

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Speaker 3: There is there's there are some things to figure out,

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Speaker 3: and you know, after the season they've had and some

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Speaker 3: of the issues that have popped up that look like

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Speaker 3: they're real issues. I'm very curious to see how Alex

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Speaker 3: attacks this offseason and in a number of different areas,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be it's gonna be very interesting to

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Speaker 3: see where they go and if they if they have

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Speaker 3: any sort of organizational shift in the type of hitters

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Speaker 3: they go after. I would love to see them speed

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Speaker 3: on the team. I would love to say, see them

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Speaker 3: get more left handed on the team. I think they're

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Speaker 3: too right handed and I think they're too slow, and

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Speaker 3: I would love to see those areas improved.

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Speaker 4: But we'll see.

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Speaker 3: It's a long offseason. We're gonna have plenty of time

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Speaker 3: to talk about it. We do appreciate the all the downloads,

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Speaker 3: all the listens, you know, the comments, the rates to reviews,

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Speaker 3: all that has been terrific and it was a fun season.

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Speaker 3: It's a frustrating season, but it was still a fun season.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, this podcast doesn't stop. It'll be here for

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Speaker 3: all winter and then we move into twenty twenty five, and.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Steven, I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to to to you know, over the next you know,

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Speaker 1: a few weeks talking about some of the highlights this season,

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Speaker 1: talking about just how special of a season Chris sel had,

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Speaker 1: especially at his age. Same with Marcelo Zuna, same with

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Speaker 1: Rice Selly Glacias, talking about how rare it is to

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Speaker 1: see Spencer Schwellenbach emerge or a player like Spencer Swellow

907
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Speaker 1: Block emerge and have the success that he has, what

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Speaker 1: that means, how big of a development that is for

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Speaker 1: our future. I'm looking forward to talking about that. That's

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Speaker 1: one I'm not gonna say it's better than continuing to

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Speaker 1: win in the playoffs, but at least for content purposes

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Speaker 1: for the podcast, it's going to be a bit fun

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Speaker 1: to dive into a bit of the highlights of the season,

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Speaker 1: the positives from the season, because again we've got plenty

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Speaker 1: of time to talk about the negatives, which we've talked

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Speaker 1: about extensively.

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Speaker 2: Throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be fun to be able to spotlight

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Speaker 1: some of the more positive things about the season and

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Speaker 1: then get into really how the Braves can improve their

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Speaker 1: chances to make the most of what's going to be

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Speaker 1: a critical twenty twenty five season. My name is Sean Covin.

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Speaker 1: You can find me a you can find me. I

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00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: almost gave Stevens that Twitter name. You can find me

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Speaker 1: at Stat's Sac on Twitter, slash x. You can find

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Speaker 1: Steven at B's be Underscore Outliers on Twitter, slash x,

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory across all forms of social media. We are

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Speaker 1: very proud to be part of the family of podcasts

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Speaker 1: with Foul Territory. Always great content from them in the

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Speaker 1: several team podcasts that they have. Check every one of

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Speaker 1: them out. Please subscribe for every listen to podcasts. That's

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Speaker 1: where we'll be for free, also on YouTube until next time.

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Speaker 1: I know that the season is over, but the off

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Speaker 1: season is beginning and with this Brave squad that means

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Speaker 1: another pursuit of the World Series title in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Is officially begun.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, Go Braves, We'll talk to you again.

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Speaker 2: Soon here.

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Speaker 1: On The Hammer Territory podcast,