WEBVTT - Scandalous with Katie Lowes

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<v Speaker 1>Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, how you doing good? Coming up? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming up for air and between birthday season here guys,

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<v Speaker 1>So so neigh birthdays in August, that's how I feel

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<v Speaker 1>in November, yes, and do you have things? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's Roman and then a week later's Jace, a week

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<v Speaker 1>later is me, a week later is Alan. That's four birthdays.

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<v Speaker 1>A week later is Jesus, and then Jesus and then

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<v Speaker 1>Jolie and in between Happy New Year. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's it's just a lot. Yeah. But Jace had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun at Legends. Jace I birthday, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little out of it because Easter I gave was

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<v Speaker 1>a nurse and a back injury. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>be off today. Are you doing all right? Jace is

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<v Speaker 1>just such a It's so fun because I love how

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<v Speaker 1>Jace and Legend like love each other but they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be any more opposite. Yeah, And I'm always like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Jace is coming, this will be good for like us

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<v Speaker 1>being like a dapperhandsome, like good standing kind of guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and Legend's like, Jace, get over you. Please

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<v Speaker 1>tell the quote about my sister. Well, I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted me too. I think it's hysterical. So

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<v Speaker 1>it shows their personalities really well. Well, you're just so

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<v Speaker 1>cute because it's like, yeah, like you said, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>very different, but not, I mean, Legend is still very

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<v Speaker 1>you know sweet. Oh he's a good guy. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good kid. He's just a very like outgoing character. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's got I mean he has a mullet. Mullet,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it's kind of his name is Legend

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<v Speaker 1>wild like I did it to myself. Sure, so there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and Jace is more cautious and a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more I say, it's sweet. Yeah, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. We all like we see it. But it

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<v Speaker 1>takes him a second to kind of warm up to

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<v Speaker 1>like the rough and toughness of like that energy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's because he's with me seventy percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, but you know, he's not tumbling with

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<v Speaker 1>dudes a bunch, you know, I mean now him and

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<v Speaker 1>like Alan Russell and stuff. But you know, anyways, I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>So we walk in and he they're bouncing on the

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<v Speaker 1>big bouncy house stuff. And the boys are just running. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I walked into them throwing water balloons at the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the girls against the boys. There were six

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<v Speaker 1>boys and two girls. They're just chucking these water balloons

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<v Speaker 1>the girls. And then Jace, sweet Jace, goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>girls team, and then the one of the kids goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the girls. It's the guys against the boys against

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<v Speaker 1>the girls. And he's like okay. So then he like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes on the other side and gets into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're on the like the bounce thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>the adults are inside and I've I can't move because

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<v Speaker 1>of my back, so I'm just sitting on this chair, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>nice legs backyard. Yeah, I love me. Thanks great, thank you, thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just observing and just kind of watching. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's Jace and Legend and they're bouncing up and

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<v Speaker 1>down and he's like, attack the girls, and he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to attack my sister. He goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then attack mine, and he was like like and he

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like stood there like he's a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't He's like, well, I don't want to attack

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<v Speaker 1>my sister. And then just without any well, then attack mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, like borrow mine. Then yes, that's but

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<v Speaker 1>it was cute. They're sweet love that he lived his

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<v Speaker 1>best life. It was Jake. It was Jay squinting. We

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<v Speaker 1>did our version of Visit Cake. Legend loves that show,

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<v Speaker 1>so we did like our own little thing. Jay's squinty,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean so in it. Like I have several pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of just him, Like he pulled his shades up but

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<v Speaker 1>on the top of his head and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to win. He was going to call

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<v Speaker 1>which one was Cake. It was so cute to me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he said the other day, he goes, Mom, can we

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<v Speaker 1>have camp at the house? I was like, okay, so listen.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not how their house always is. That was

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<v Speaker 1>just for his birthday party. Yeah yeah, but if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to camp sometime, we could figure it out. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And dude. Camp was two hours specified twice on the

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<v Speaker 1>invitation and it was all outdoors. We want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's very against to like, it's against my

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<v Speaker 1>DNA to have wild you know, and boys are crazy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it was so sweet. Oh yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>had fun. Well, it's Legend wants everything, right, you ask

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<v Speaker 1>them what the dream party is and usually includes like

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<v Speaker 1>an aircraft and us flying somewhere, and so I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>say we kept it to like our postage stamp backyard,

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<v Speaker 1>what would we do here? And he's like, ah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we can mind all things. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>labeled it dude camp And the next one's fifty preston. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>next week, next week, crazy wild? Have we planned anything yet?

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<v Speaker 1>We can't plan because we just never know where he'll be.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not home so far though. Still he's back out again,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think like Christmas, and it sounds like don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't you have their shows like knowing what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>in the next two weeks. No, I mean we do,

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<v Speaker 1>but then everything changes, like even just this morning has

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<v Speaker 1>changed again, so we might have him next week really,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't think. So I can think shows come

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<v Speaker 1>that like last minute, well they're doing they own their

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<v Speaker 1>label now, so there's like extra other pieces that are

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<v Speaker 1>also like that would be I'm like, yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>always trying to change stuff. They wouldn't let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, no, you're right, I wouldn't. Yeah, probably not,

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<v Speaker 2>just like yeah, it's just a lot like it's great

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, very fruitful season. You know, summer is harvest

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<v Speaker 2>season in the music industry. Well, let me know what

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<v Speaker 2>we could do because I always love the fifty favorite

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<v Speaker 2>things party. Oh yeah, where it's like you have fifty

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<v Speaker 2>of your favorite things. So it's like fifty chocolateship cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty, Kristin Bress, Yeah, fifty, fifty of your favorite friends fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know. It's like it's cute. Someone through

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<v Speaker 1>that one time, and I just always remember it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, when I'm fifty, you know, I had my

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<v Speaker 1>big forty one. Now I want my now fifty fifty. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy time. Yeah, correct, correct, I have done. I

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<v Speaker 1>love birthdays so much so I feel a little like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well this is our tenth birthday together, coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>our tenth birthday, so I don't I'm like what I've

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<v Speaker 1>done reverse surprise party for him. I've brought in his

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<v Speaker 1>best friends from home, you know, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just the timing is tricky. So he said we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to celebrate all year long. I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>do like an overnight somewhere just us too. He did

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<v Speaker 1>that for me, and I love it. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>gift to each other. Really, we should go somewhere. I

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<v Speaker 1>could be with kids. I know you like to travel

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<v Speaker 1>with the good I do love, but we could all

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<v Speaker 1>like go run a house somewhere for like a long

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<v Speaker 1>weekend in Florida or something that could be really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring the kids in December. Really, I'm like, when I

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<v Speaker 1>don't say this is a okay, I love you, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see it unb wrapping. No, there was a gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the percentage? It was like eighty percent of children.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing they really remember are the family trips

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<v Speaker 1>who took, not the birthday parties or any the is

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<v Speaker 1>are there. I don't focus on those things. Focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the trips that you take. Yeah you're really good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we love that trip. So I'm like, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to do more trips. But then I just looked because

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to go to Michigan for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for this weekend, No next weekend. Me. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try for four tickets twenty five hundred dollars. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>that's economy correct. I was like for to Michigan, to

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty five metropolis of twenty five hundred dollars that's

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<v Speaker 1>a delta. Southwest was twenty eight hundred. I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Allegiance. That's where we got. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>might actually fly the plane for a discount and rate,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's wild right now. I wanted to go tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and we've been it's crazy. I don't and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can't fight all the time. So I'm like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to book this and then do I even

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<v Speaker 1>get to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it's kind of a mess gas lip by

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<v Speaker 2>my airline is I do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been like that for a while really, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's especially well is it going to Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>or going to one of the other tribes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's not even like Travers City where that was

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<v Speaker 1>normally would it be because normally the flights were like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty two hundred. They've been high for

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<v Speaker 1>a while.

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<v Speaker 2>And the problem is is that Southwest you could always

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<v Speaker 2>kind of count on to be cheaper and then are

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<v Speaker 2>more affordable, but that has not been the case. No,

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<v Speaker 2>have you heard that they're going to change the seating assigned?

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<v Speaker 2>Not cool that some people are like so excited and

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<v Speaker 2>some people are like, I don't understand why you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it, and then people it's like it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>What a team builder on Southwest? Yeah, it's a team builder.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, Like it's a travel you have to

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<v Speaker 1>just go hey, like it's it's I like fighting for that.

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<v Speaker 2>My only I don't really care. But my issue is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be, then what are the costs going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Like exactly, it's going to be higher, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we like Southwest, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But also with Southwest you are paying higher to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get those higher anyway, So I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 2>might even out, it might not. I'll have to see whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also just I just am like it's so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you get to meet different people, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of cool. I will say though,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm traveling with the fans, I love having a

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<v Speaker 1>sign seat. I love knowing. Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where I travel so much for like cheer

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and it's super stressful because with the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>they may not be able to sit together or you

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<v Speaker 2>may not be able to get on with some. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I would prefer probably assigned seats. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't want the prices to be crazy because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Same and they're doing like a their version of a

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<v Speaker 1>first class now too, which is, well, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to be paying for that? Because there's no are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to take the seats out and change first class?

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<v Speaker 1>But they would probably do what they do in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>So there are classes. It's just the seat is still there.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes zero. Yeah, I would be livid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah if I actually because I umblicious face it, I

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<v Speaker 2>did pay for that aid for a first class for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I did that and there was still a

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<v Speaker 2>seat there, but like you can't even move from the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally stood there and stared at it for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>like I could see you, what is happening? Trusting goes

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<v Speaker 2>what is this? And I was like, oh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're in first class.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it wasn't first though, right, isn't it just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's called premium. I guess one of them that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was the Tinier, That's what it was. Yeah, It's like

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<v Speaker 1>we had the same one the three hour flight to Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the same thing. I'm like, this is so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to at least can I sit close? And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm next to you. There's a middle seat.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a middle seat. If you could take this

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<v Speaker 1>thing and move it can't move it can't move it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I stared at it for a long time. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have something that I just want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up that I feel like you guys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>make fun of me for Oh goodie, just entered the chap.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't you want some snacks? I've been Sam's Club. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I have to bring this up

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<v Speaker 1>to my girls. I'm having like a midlife crisis. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another podcast. But I brought this up in Italy and

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<v Speaker 1>it's still staying with me and I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I need to unpack this with my girls

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<v Speaker 1>on wine Down. Okay, Okay, you're ready for it. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so cure.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to guess before and I got sure, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>I got nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Our personalities are so clear when you look at us

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm like on the edge and be like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, honey, share and Cat's already got squinty okay

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<v Speaker 1>and go. So this came up in Italy when we

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<v Speaker 1>were at Did you have any guesses? No? None, none,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe none, nothing, pizza continue what I don't know Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so this came up when we were at

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant. I said to Alan, I said, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him the question, what's one thing you missed doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, I can't. Honestly, I can't remember. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crappy. Who maybe we should grab it. So

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's like, what are you miss doing? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, being here, I've it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>made me miss this certain thing. Just from talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the servers in Italy, I was like, I miss waitressing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, because I love waitressing. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love helping people, and I love like I some

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite youth memory memories, it's like a young

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<v Speaker 1>adolescent was waitressing because I just love doing it. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the the the changing things, and like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>managing everything, and then you know, helping people and like

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down. I was I'd get fired a lot just

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<v Speaker 1>because I would like sit down at the table and

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<v Speaker 1>like be overly friendly. This is why we're best. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we do that now, Because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my life feels very similar to everything

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<v Speaker 1>you just described, right, but it's like because we have

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<v Speaker 1>to oh and we don't get to want to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not getting paid for and I'm the cook too. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I like applied somewhere and worked one day

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<v Speaker 1>a week at like a brick like a bricktops or

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<v Speaker 1>like I would would you guys con visit me.

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<v Speaker 2>Duhaut every Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>Is like this is my dream scenario? Like no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like actually like he was laughing me, but I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>actually being serious. I think it would be my time

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<v Speaker 1>support it so much. I'm not sure when you're picking

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<v Speaker 1>up it would be like my like literally said what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening? But it would be like like literally because

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that I enjoy doing. It would be like

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<v Speaker 1>my time because I don't like sitting down, like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I struggle. It's just I'm here for it. Are laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at my dreams. I am so here for it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so just life. You're so serious, You're so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to live your dreams. I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>support it so much. I just I feels like for

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<v Speaker 1>your time not serving others. But I mean I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay, I love waitressing. I know I can't

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<v Speaker 1>if you really love it that much to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the house, we might need a separate offline conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>If I am giving you your latte at Starbucks because

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get out of the house, I cannot wait. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of questions because I do think

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<v Speaker 1>we are in similar seasons right now. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I went to third Eye blind and I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I could do that every weekend for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>it because we are saving a lot of catch stage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I started looking up like when is Yellow

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<v Speaker 1>Card playing and Boys Like Girls? Because I just love

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling I had and I I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>Or the same.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is, because there's so I think those seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of our lives are so this laughing guys turned into

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<v Speaker 1>a breakdown. I'm almost there too. That's why I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can feel it that cat goes. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>it changing, and I'm like, it's okay. No. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>just had this thought this morning because I used to

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<v Speaker 1>do a morning show for like seven years in Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>on radio, and I love getting up at like four

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<v Speaker 1>thirty in the morning, like I love getting day under

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<v Speaker 1>me before like everyone else even you know, blink, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like I have been in the season, like

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<v Speaker 1>I named the podcast season last time, like living now

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<v Speaker 1>in the good old days, because I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>we recognize like that we're in the good old days

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<v Speaker 1>while we have them. Yeah, Like I was always stressed

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<v Speaker 1>out when I was serving because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get fired. I need this money, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, But like I look back and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>the wildest speaking times and so much fun. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>laid by the pool till three, took a shower, put

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<v Speaker 1>on my cute little like black pants, and grabbed my

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<v Speaker 1>apron and made bank because caring well for people a

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<v Speaker 1>densrit to myself is exactly what I'm good at, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I think a lot of that, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>third I blind showed it to me because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we are listening to you guys. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>definitely thinks I'm going through something because like all the

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<v Speaker 1>music right now at home is like boys like Girls

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<v Speaker 1>and Yellow Card and all those because I'm there's a

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<v Speaker 1>time that it does something for me, Like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>care free moment in time and I miss that. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't love what I have, right, but before

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<v Speaker 1>I was a mom, before I was a wife two times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like just don't make me count me. But

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<v Speaker 1>like there's something really special about what those seasons were

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<v Speaker 1>to us that it doesn't it makes sense to me

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd want to go back. I would also say

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<v Speaker 1>it won't feel the same. We can try it on

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to, but I do it is sacred

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<v Speaker 1>and special and fun and there's just a part of

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<v Speaker 1>us that lived and I don't even think I think

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<v Speaker 1>because of my worry and anxiety and never like really

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<v Speaker 1>even soaked up everything I was inside of when I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. So I mean, if you I can't wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be we want to be your first table.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's happening. Yeah, is sending things back to the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen already? I would never Yeah, I think said that

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<v Speaker 1>is that what's coming up for you right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Which piece well, like like what she's saying, like you

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<v Speaker 2>just wish you could.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I think it's like we've had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>conversations in our house about like dreams and like living dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, like my dream is to like be

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<v Speaker 1>on a show again, right, So, like I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on a show, and I'm super excited because

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<v Speaker 1>we have Katie Lowe's coming on the show. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, she's on a TV show that I

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<v Speaker 1>actually tested for, and you know she's got a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Scandal. But you know, Alan and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been lots of conversation about like our dreams and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you make great money, and I'm like, but what you

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand is that, like I'm not making money on

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that like, I'm doing it because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>means to support my children. And I've had to pivot.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you don't think that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be out like busting it again, like because I love

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<v Speaker 1>music or you know, like I would love to play

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<v Speaker 1>big shows again. I'm like, but does that suit the

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<v Speaker 1>mom life?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it suit like you know, you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to be on a TV show again. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Those opportunities don't come all the time, so

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<v Speaker 1>I have to make find means to support my kid,

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<v Speaker 1>kids and you know, the house and everything else. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just because it makes money does not mean

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<v Speaker 1>that like I'm living my dream. And I'm like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the piece where it's like, again, I'm so thankful. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this to like come out the other way,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm very thankful for everything, and I've had to

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<v Speaker 1>like be a scrapper and like you know, figure things

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<v Speaker 1>out and kind of like Okay, let's do this and

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<v Speaker 1>let's change here, and let's have a podcast and are

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<v Speaker 1>right now, let's do that. And it's like so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I love like creating and dreaming things, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not my ultimate dream, Like it's I enjoy it, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things I don't enjoy doing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when there's certain things that I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it for the money piece of it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've just like been kind of in that

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<v Speaker 1>mode where it's like and there's other things that obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I can do, but it's that going back to like

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<v Speaker 1>what you said, it's like those are the moments where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like I'd rather make nothing and enjoy what I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and less responsibility. Like, yeah, those were the

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<v Speaker 1>days where it was like I don't know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean that either with like me, because I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>I do know that I have to make but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you know, we'd have conversations like we have,

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<v Speaker 1>you're making great money, it's like it doesn't matter. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not it actually doesn't do anything for me, Like a

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<v Speaker 1>little piece of meat dies inside when I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do certain things that like that I know I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to support my family and pay for MIC

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<v Speaker 1>and you know all the stuff. So you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it's just like I gotta I gotta find something

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<v Speaker 1>in there that is filling the cup when the dream

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<v Speaker 1>is like so on. It seems at times in the

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<v Speaker 1>world of like acting so unreachable that it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta find something because in those moments it's just

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<v Speaker 1>and it's only when like we bring up the topic

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<v Speaker 1>because normally I can put my head down and I

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<v Speaker 1>just go through like grind mode. But when it's brought up,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when like all the emotions come up with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, no, that makes sense. I just had this

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<v Speaker 1>two hour emotional breakdown two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>what is my Like I don't get a chance, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to take off even like the all the

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<v Speaker 1>hat that you wear to go like what is my dream?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the dreams that I have always had and I

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<v Speaker 1>still have don't really work well with like motherhood or

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<v Speaker 1>a traveling husband or like, and we just talked about

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<v Speaker 1>being like in a good content contentment place and like

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<v Speaker 1>those both feelings can be had together. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>venture to say that most anyone listening to this, especially women,

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<v Speaker 1>would feel a lot of what we're saying. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm getting to the point now. Were'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>go check in and stamp my card at bricked Ups. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if that makes you fulfilled, then do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to give me like a moment outside of

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, just to like and co workers. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to find something else. But you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's it's opening, but it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything seems like I want to do the charity. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like everything is like so it's like so much. It's daunting.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of work and I'm like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I even start that? And like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, Yeah it is. I got a call with

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Waller and I'm just like my eyes are like, ohh,

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<v Speaker 1>so much, but I want to do it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot to that for sure. Well, and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's so hard to think, especially for you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like you say yes to pretty much everything. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>hard for you to say no, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know there's not going to be opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Which which absolutely and that's understanding, and that would be

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<v Speaker 2>anyone in your position would probably do the same. But

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I think if you can say no to a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more, to have that room in your life

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<v Speaker 2>to really go, Okay, what is it that I really

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know the answer to that for myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that. I don't think we all have

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what that thing is. But if there's

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<v Speaker 2>not room for it, that feels even more daunting on

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<v Speaker 2>top of all the things we already have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think freeing up some of your mind and

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<v Speaker 2>your time and your space for.

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<v Speaker 1>That will be helpful with that situation. Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 1>easier said, maybe we all go on your Hamburger or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll buy a restaurant. And I'm kidding anyways, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's get im Katie on and talk all things scandal.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't wait? Hi, Hey girl, Hey, Hi, I someone that

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<v Speaker 1>comes fly from the closet. Yeah, kindreds, it's the only

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<v Speaker 1>quiet place in my house.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to like really make an effort and go

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere with the pretty background, and then my kids would

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<v Speaker 3>like invade and it was insane. And then I used

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<v Speaker 3>to put up a pop up thing and then that's

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<v Speaker 3>just annoying, so like it can fall over, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't I supposed to like, oh yeah, falling over crazy?

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 3>And then aren't I supposed to like know how to

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<v Speaker 3>do backgrounds so that this is all like fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not technologically not even know how to do

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<v Speaker 1>that either.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just hoping that my charisma and personality distract from.

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<v Speaker 1>It already has. I love you so much. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you like a little funny not funny story,

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<v Speaker 1>But so I tested for Hunting Wives and I was

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<v Speaker 1>pinned did the whole thing, and my favorite part of

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh my god, Katie's on the show

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was obsessed with you on Callie, Callie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you would have been so great, totally different. As

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 3>we all know, actress is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was, I mean because I ended up like

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<v Speaker 1>obviously like seeing who it was, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's amazing and she's so good. Yes, we're very different,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to just and I knew you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were so close too. I was like, well that was

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<v Speaker 1>that's good for her because they like their kids go

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<v Speaker 1>to the same school like I went, because I like

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to like you know, like make peace with it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was like one of those where like I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was devastated for like you know when you get

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<v Speaker 1>that close and you're just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it just happened to my husband like yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eat this, I know. I I was just literally

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<v Speaker 1>talking to my husband about too. I was just like,

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>you know when you just feel like so defeated, nothing's happening,

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and then it's like those moments that are like you're

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<v Speaker 1>so close and you're like you can just taste it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it goes away.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're picturing your life like you're like, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 3>already moved to Charlotte. Are my children functioning?

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<v Speaker 1>When are they coming? When are they not? Like the

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<v Speaker 1>an accent because Joe Jolie already has one living here

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee like they had. I was like, I get

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<v Speaker 1>what you are. You are no what would you have done?

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, so I I mean I already had it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have a it did never actually happened, but

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<v Speaker 1>like obviously, but there's I have two kids with them

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<v Speaker 1>their husband, so it's like I would have taken them

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<v Speaker 1>with me and just like you know, homeschool them whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have a baby with my now husband,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Gradually, Thank you, I've gotten down your whole Instagram. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I love a blended family situation. It's so

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<v Speaker 3>great girl.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I like, I mean, I had already

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<v Speaker 1>had the conversations. Once I got pinned, I was like, oh,

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, I am like so and just

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 1>like they're like just between you and someone else, but

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like you know, saying all the things, and then

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>they call you the next day and go, well, they

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>leaned the other way, and I was like unpacked the boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like the gutturll like oh, but then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like friends with the other CALLI anyways, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're very know each other for like twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been in the same mountears. We had no idea

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<v Speaker 3>that like either of I went in for Cali as well,

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 3>which is a ridiculous mistake. I love coming out called

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<v Speaker 3>The Hunting Wives and CALLI is like a sexy, sexy

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>woman like yourself.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>You're sexy as well. Now I am not.

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 3>I booked the one that says dowdier than the rest, which.

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I feel way, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Better in that arena. I just do like I cannot

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. The lead of the show is mal And Ackerman.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a Swedish beautiful you know, model turned actorate Like

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, this is not like these are like

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 3>the hottest hoots like leeah. Anyway, I auditioned for Cali

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 3>and they called me and they were like, would you

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 3>come in and read for Jill, which was a different

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 3>one of The Hunting Wives. For those of you listening,

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 3>it's just to show like everyone's a wife of somebody

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 3>who's a big deal in East Texas town. So it's

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 3>like the sheriff's wife, the mayor's wife, the governor's wife, the.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Preacher's wife, which is me. I would be great.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband was up for something yesterday that was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be shooting in Ireland and I was like already,

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 3>like we're going to international school for the kids, my

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 3>mom's moving with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like tonight for dinners, fish and chips, yea or

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. And then it's like, no, the deal.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 3>You know, he was this runner up and this you know,

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 3>the first choice ended up making the deal work. And

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, they strung him along for a long time,

0:27:58.800 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 3>like we don't think it's gonna work.

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 1>We don't think is going to work. And then he.

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<v Speaker 3>Knows the actor that was in the first position, and

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 3>he was like, I'm just going to call my friend,

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>and he called his friend.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh no, no, I'm totally doing it.

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I have three kids. I have to put food

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>on the table.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 3>And Adam was like, what the like, this is just anyway,

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 3>It's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think. I mean, I don't well, I mean

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I am, but I'm amazed. Was it fun? Did you

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>have fun doing the Hunting Wives? I just have to

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>do I had. I really did have a good time.

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>It was so great. Huh you had such a good Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be really so I never get to I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I never worked away from the kids. This was my

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<v Speaker 3>first job.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>How old are your kids? My kids are six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and three and a half.

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And I've taken I'm an older boy and a little girl,

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and I've taken them on every job thus far. My

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 3>husband and I are both actors, and we've been fortunate enough

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 3>to work in like really crazy, different cool places, and

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>we've always taken the kids. And this is that first

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 3>year that you hear about where like, oh, shoot, he

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 3>has to go to school because he's at a public

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 3>school and attendance. Actually, Matt, like, you know, you can't

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 3>just pull him out forever and then expect them to

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 3>have a spot waiting for you and all of this.

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 3>So I was pretty nervous, you know, just going through

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 3>the auditions and just thinking, okay, like this is going

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>to be my first foray into commuting back and forth

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 3>from Charlotte, North Carolina to Los Angeles, leaving my kids

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>here with my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a phenomenal job.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I cried so much the couple's therapy, like leading up

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 3>to it was just only about my anxiety and leaving

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 3>my kids.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>But everybody thrived.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that was really the big great lesson was like,

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you marry the right person who is

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 3>willing to really jump in and he does, I'm like,

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 3>and I've done it for him too, Like last year

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 3>he was in Budapest for like eight months, and you know,

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>so we're pretty like good at really picking up this

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>black when one person get is earning the living, you know,

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 3>but I was terrified to leave them and then it

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 3>really you know, my kid is probably having slight anxiety

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 3>and separation from it, but hey, he was going to

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>get it at some time. He comes from a long

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 3>line of anxious New Yorkers. It's he's going to be

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 3>in therapy with whatever way you look at it.

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>So whatever. Well, I mean, that's it's amazing though, because

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that we're all obviously moms and we get the mom

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>guilts and it's it's a real thing. But to know,

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and there was something that we were just chatting about

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the other day after we podcasted, and she's like, yes,

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>we can all do hard things. But sometimes when you

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>when you do those hard things, then you realize, oh wait,

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I can do this, especially you know, being a mom

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and trying to juggle it all. So it's that's a

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>good thing to remember, like you did it. It's amazing

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you can do it. Maybe it was hard at times,

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>but you still got through it and it.

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Was awesome at times. That was the unexpected thing was

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, I definitely felt mom guilt.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 3>My kids would be like screaming, crying, running down the

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 3>driveway when I was getting in to go to the airport.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>It was very dramatic at moments, and there are moments

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>where they were angry and things like that, but there

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 3>were a lot of moments of just total joy of

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 3>like remembering who I am separate of my mom identity.

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 3>There were moments of like me line dancing and two

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 3>stepping in Charlotte, like drunk off my ass with a

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 3>cowgirl hat on and just being like this is the shit,

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 3>or being you know, having a random day off in

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 3>between two working days and just sort of twiddling my

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 3>thumbs like, oh my god, I think I'm gonna like

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 3>is it okay, I'm gonna go to a yoga class

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 3>and I'm just gonna watch like six hours straight of

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 3>like Bridgerton season three or whatever, and you know what

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like those are things I do not allow

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 3>myself to do in LA which I need to look at,

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>but because I'm like, well, there's always like something to do,

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>like a grocery shop or a pickup or a play

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>date or let's get them in the whatever it is.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 3>So it was sort of really great and I'm very

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 3>much now like looking word to the next job that

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 3>takes me away.

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Adam kept being like, I told you you love it.

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>I told you you love it because he's done it

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 3>more than I have.

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Levann he was just like, you're gonna really love it.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I did. Do You've got to find you in it again. Yeah,

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you know the piece of you that we ta table

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>while we're parents, Yeah, we do. Like, oh, it really sucks.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.239
<v Speaker 3>And also there is something to be said where like,

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I was thousands of miles away from them,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I could not help, you know, like, which is very

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>good in a way, because I would figure out a

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 3>way to get there, you know. And it I did

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 3>do like thirteen flights in three months and almost like

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 3>fell over.

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. Yeah.

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 3>I came back like every five to seven days, and

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>and anytime I had a Monday or a Friday off,

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I was home. And then you know, it was sort

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>of figuring out for yourself, like Okay, just because you're

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 3>home for three days doesn't mean you have to be

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 3>super mom. In those three days, I'm like cleaning lunch

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 3>boxes within an inch of their life and clipping their

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 3>toenails because nobody else is doing it, and you know

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 3>it's like, Okay, you probably were pushing it a little hard.

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 3>You could have just taken them to a movie, napped

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>with them, cuddled, let their nails grow.

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Who gives?

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, Like I just I found myself doing those

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 3>sort of like ridiculous control tasks to try to like

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 3>show how much I love them when I.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Was definitely nail clippers and attachment, healthy attachment go hand

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>in hand. Yeah, but also like who else.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Is doing that stuff? That's the thing I really think

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 3>My husband is never he's great, Never has clipped their nails.

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Never, well it's a little primal, but taking care of

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>them in that way, like the grooming them, the shampooe nails,

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>for sure, Alan hasn't no clip. Preston gets really overwhelmed.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>He's like, those are so microscopic. There's no way. It's

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>hard for those little baby fingers. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's

0:33:57.840 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>so hard and it's so crazy.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 3>It's a mommy gorilla like yeah, like grooming and approving

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 3>and all. Yeah, And I'm like, no washes their head

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 3>like I wash their heads of course, not like and

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm inspecting everything. You know, of course everything's okay, but like.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>No one else is going to look at her ear

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.720
<v Speaker 1>lobes that way except for me. That's has anybody checked

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>in on them lately? You know? It's why? That's right?

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>That's how how is it with three?

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like when you have three you kind

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 3>of have to give up on that which sounds a

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.800
<v Speaker 3>little bit, which sounds so great, like it sounds so refreshing.

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 3>It'd be like, I literally just don't have the capacity

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 3>to like it's a force.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a forced way into like letting go am so

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>a type and control and micro helicopter. And I've had

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, I had to turn it over or or

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>none of us would survive or we'd all be operating

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.959
<v Speaker 1>under laminated sheets. And I'm the only one that cares

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>about that, am I? How many do you have? Three?

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 1>We all have three? All three? Right?

0:34:58.160 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:34:58.520 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>You all have three?

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 3>That seems so wild to me. My son, who six

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 3>and a half, keeps begging for me to have a

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 3>third for some reason, all of his dear friends in

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 3>school are one of three kids, and he's just like,

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 3>how dare you? Like how we only have two?

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it's notice that none of them are one of

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>four though, because three is where we all are, like

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>ants are wrap. Yeah, really it's not. I don't think

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 1>three is that hard. I truly don't think.

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 3>Did you grow up in a house that had a

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of kids though.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like three. But I thought one to two

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>was the hardest by far, Like zero to one was

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>a little hard. I thought zero to one was easy.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>One to two was I thought my life was over.

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>And then by the time I got to wanting a third,

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, this is easy, like you, I mean,

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>you just one person has to But mine are older too,

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>so they're spread out. So my oldest they are that. Yeah,

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 2>so I have fifteen, twelve and eight, so yeah eight.

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I have eight and six, so it's like or eight

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and five. He's almost ex but like it's like having

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 1>one all over again, like my nine month old is

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like having one incredible.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you were auditioning for hunting wives when you

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 3>have like a little baby, Yeah.

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Girl, MoMA's got am.

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 3>And I am so impressed with you.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>That's unbelievable.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 3>I could not gene crate. I don't stop I think

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 3>about it. And then I think I agree with you.

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 3>One to two broke me in a way where I

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 3>was like the book stops here, this is not One

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 3>to two was so bananas to have like a toddler

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 3>running around who wants your attention and their whole world

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 3>explodes while you're dealing with a newborn. And I some

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 3>people really love the newborn stage. That is not me.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I think it is a hellscape.

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>That is.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't like no sleeping and no reward with it,

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 3>like baby doesn't care who you are, Like.

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like it doesn't matter. I

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>describe it best as a foreign exchange student program, and

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>it feels like we don't speak the same language. I

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think you actually appreciate what you Yeah, and I

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.760
<v Speaker 1>like it when we can talk. I love the newborn stage.

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's only because my husband let me sleep. So

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>my husband did not let me sleep.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, we switched off, But I still love the newborn stage.

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cat love it.

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 3>My best friend she is becomes like the most earth

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 3>mother goddess love bubble person where she's just like walking

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 3>around like in a daze, and she like loves it.

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 3>There's like a baby on her breast in her bed

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 3>and all that, and I'm just like pulling my fucking hands.

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Were non three women, but doctor Brown really pulled through baby,

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why we loved it. Well, I don't know. I

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>don't can't speak to that.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I rested for so long for both kids, and I

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 3>don't know why I did.

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't know why.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I like, why do that to yourself?

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>None of the rumors for me were true.

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.720
<v Speaker 3>That did not make me get like skinny really quickly,

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Like that was absolutely horseshit. I I don't know why

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 3>I was so I was. I gave birth in a

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 3>group of moms where everyone was doing.

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Are you pregnant? Were you pregnant? Around the same time.

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 3>On the show I was pregnant the final season of Scandal,

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 3>and they wrote it in for Quinn. Blessedness, Shonda Rhimes,

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for that gift. And then I

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 3>went back.

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>To Carrie was pregnant what twice?

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Harry was pregnant twice, and so many people on Grays

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 3>had had babies too, And I was friends with a

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 3>lot of those girls, and they were just sort of like, actually,

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 3>this is a great story. They were all like, get

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 3>it done. Under Shanda, She's the best of the best.

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 3>She'll take care of you. She's done it a million times.

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 3>No one will mess with you, blah blah blah. And

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 3>she actually we were hanging out in her office because

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 3>we're friends, but we were hanging out in her office

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 3>and she just sort of looked at me and she

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 3>was like, what are you doing? And I was like,

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 3>what are you talking about? And she was like, well,

0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 3>do you want to have a family? And I was

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 3>like I do.

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I just like I was like, clearly, is this a

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>test here? I am.

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like thirty six, thirty seven years old, and I'm like,

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I still just don't feel like I've grown up enough

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 3>to do that, even though I'd been with my husband

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 3>for like eleven years or something like we've we've been

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 3>a really long time. And she was like, well, before

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.919
<v Speaker 3>other people know this, and I think some people dead

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 3>said it, but in my memory of it, it goes

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 3>like she said, no one knows, but next season's gonna

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 3>be the last season of Scandal, and if I were you,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 3>if you want to have a baby, I would get

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 3>it done on my watch. And I literally ran home

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 3>and like told my husband to.

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Take a.

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, my God, Shanna said, I should

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 3>have a baby like right now, because you know scandal,

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 3>I should do it like while I'm working and have

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 3>a job, because she'll write it in and she'll write

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 3>out all the months I need off and I'll have

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 3>a job to come back to, which sort of like

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.760
<v Speaker 3>really helps you, like you know, just have a date

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 3>on the books with which you're like back in like

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 3>some sort of functioning mode. So I did have the

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 3>baby on the final season of Scannal, and the whole

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 3>time people thought I was so hilarious out of my

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 3>mind that she was like, We're gonna start Shondaala in audio,

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 3>would you like to host a mom podcast called Katie's Crib?

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, So I just basically do

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 3>what Shonda says and follow because when a genius is

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.439
<v Speaker 3>like walking amongst you, or do you just say okay, yeah,

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.879
<v Speaker 3>my second baby. Similarly, I was on Inventing Anna and

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to wrap in April, and I was

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 3>hanging out with Shonda again and I said to her,

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I said, Okay, I think we're going to have a

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 3>second but I'm gonna get pregnant hopefully and no one

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 3>will know, like I'll be I'll be like four or

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 3>five weeks pregnant and then we're gonna wrap. So I'm

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 3>not gonna like tell production or anything. If this all

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 3>works out, I don't know, but we've been trying and

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah. I do get pregnant and a week

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>later production shuts down in the world shuts down because

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 3>it's March thirteenth of twenty twenty. So she was like

0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 3>my first email when I was like, I'm pregnant. I

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 3>still owe like half of this series, this show, I

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know what's happening. And they waited a full year

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 3>for me to have the baby, and then four months

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 3>after they pushed all of my scenes to be the

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 3>last six weeks of the entire production, and they move

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 3>the whole production to La so that I didn't have

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 3>to travel.

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's what I credible.

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I know she is a mom, well, she has three

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 3>kids herself, and she's just like you know. I mean, now,

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I think the business has gotten way better and is

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>like actually paying attention of taking care of women who

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 3>are also mothers in this business. I think it probably

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 3>used to be terrible, but I think in Shondaland, it's

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 3>always been that way. You know, Ellen Pompeio is a mom,

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.879
<v Speaker 3>Like there's just like yeah, so she's just really good

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 3>at being like work life balance, you can have be

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 3>a mom, you can come to work. We will figure

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 3>it out. We had something we had like you know,

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 3>there's ten to one on set, or if you have

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 3>to go to the bathroom or to whatever, we'd like

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 3>special code words for like you had to go back

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 3>to your trailer and breastfeed every two and a half hours.

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 3>We did that and Carrie did that.

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. I love that. I'm really excited about

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:26.919
<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox podcast because so Catherine was the one

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you actually got me into Scandal because she was like thanks, yes,

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:35.080
<v Speaker 1>So it was probably like second season maybe you're like yeah, probably.

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm always we're always kind of like, right, what do

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we what are we watching? What do we watching? And

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>she's like Scandal, it's so good. And I'm like, okay,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll let me. Let me go back and start watching

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>my two favorite scandals now like to like my top two.

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a Scandal to this day is it's.

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 3>It's see why you would love hunting wives. Just I

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 3>get it into I'm here for that love.

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>So but it's it's one of those I'm like, it

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>was such a good show that I'm like, I now

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>want to go back rewatch and I'll listen to your podcast,

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>So I think I actually wanting to do that. We

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>should do it together. Yeah yeah, and Alan's never seen

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it too, and we cannot find a show that we're

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you know that we all watch. Yeah, so I'm like,

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>let's go back because it is because even to this day,

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I imagine it's still going to stand the test of

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh my god, it totally does.

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I actually didn't even think about when when people started

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 3>doing rewatch podcasts and I was like, oh, I'd really

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 3>like to do the Scandal one. And I called shondaland

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Audio and I was like, hey, guys, someone's going to

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 3>do the rewatch podcast and I hope it's me. Can

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 3>it be me? Can I pitch me? And I think

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 3>it should be Geirmo and I'm gonna call him right now.

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:49.839
<v Speaker 2>I love.

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I didn't even finish my sentence. He was like, yeah, yeah,

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm in what are we doing?

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I like so much.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>The only thing I didn't think through was like actually

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 3>rewatching the episodes. Like I knew I was down to

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 3>talk about it. I knew I was down to like

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 3>have our guests on and all the Scandal cast and

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 3>directors and writers and guest stars and recurrings and all

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 3>the great people that were amazing on the show. But

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 3>then I thought, oh, we have to watch like all

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 3>the episodes, and I that was a long time ago,

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 3>and I don't remember a lot, and I don't know

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 3>if it was good or if it holds up.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>And the greatest gift has been just like a one

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>holds up the show.

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm watching all the other hit things that

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 3>are Emmy nominated and this, that and the other thing,

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 3>and Scandal is still right there.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so good. Wait and you were Connie Britton's nanny,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>like nanny. Yeah, I was supposed to be her assistant.

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I had interviewed to me.

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I had had every odd and end job in all

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 3>of Los Angeles, you know, babysitting, waitressing, bartending.

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever would ranch girl? That was an patch

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>is where my I'd go back and forth pot I

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>got fired for not being able to open a wine

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>bottle there, and I'm like, oh the irony now, oh

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>my god. So You're like, I'm never again. While I

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>get fired her.

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 3>That that cedar playing salmon is delivered so good in

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>the LA area.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was, so I was like sort.

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Of at my wits end and getting close and not

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 3>getting anything enough to really quit all the side hustle jobs.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 3>And then I'd always said I'm never going to be

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 3>anyone's personal assistant because that just seems fucking terrible. But

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 3>then I had a friend of a friend of Connie

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Britton's and they were like, go interview with her or

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 3>she lived up the street, and she's such a real

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 3>icon actress for me, and I just think she's so

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 3>wonderfully talented. So I was like, fine, I'm gonna interview

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 3>and see if it's a fit. I interviewed. We talked

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 3>for like four hours, and she said two days went

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 3>by and she called me and she said, this is crazy.

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 3>But I was scrolling through the channels, which is something

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 3>we used to do, and she said, and you popped

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 3>up as a guest star in private Practice, and I

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 3>feel like you're a good actress and you should really

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 3>not take this job. And if you don't book something

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 3>by April, you can be my personal assistant, but right now,

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 3>just babysit for my kid and keep auditioning, and the

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 3>next week I book Scandal.

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Stop.

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so when I say babysitting for her like on Mondays,

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 3>like and then and now we're dear dear friends, like

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 3>and her son is a dear dear friend of mine

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and whatever.

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you got that call, did in that moment,

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>did you know that your whole kind of world and

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.479
<v Speaker 1>acting life wasn't change or was it just like who

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 1>knows that this show is going to hit or not? No?

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think you're always or I am always

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.280
<v Speaker 3>like this isn't going to work out. You know. I'm like, Okay,

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 3>the pilot's not pill and I'm going to get fired.

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, they're going to figure out that I'm terrible,

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.879
<v Speaker 3>you know all these things. But when I got the job,

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 3>it was so crazy. It's on the behind the scenes

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I think DVD of season one. But I had auditioned

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 3>for Shonda a bunch of times for other shows she

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 3>had and not gotten them. And Scandal. I went in.

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 3>I read the first scene of the pilot, which is

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 3>when Quinn runs in and she's with Harrison right and

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 3>he's like, you're gonna work for Olivia Pope, And I'm

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 3>like Olivia Pope, the Olivia Pope. And he's like, do

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 3>you want to be a gladiator suit?

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I want to be a gladiator suit

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>whatever we all wanted to be Olivia. I want all

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of her jackets, all of ours, Oh my god, the best.

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 3>But I did the scene and she said, okay, do

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:22.799
<v Speaker 3>it one more time, to do it as fast as

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 3>you possibly can. And I was like, okay, I've been

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 3>told to talk slower my whole life, so this might

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 3>be a fit. I left and a few days later

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 3>they were like, they're going to test you. You're going

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 3>to go back in. I went back in, thought I

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.760
<v Speaker 3>was going to test, and they had the camera rolling

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 3>and she said, you don't need to do the scene

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 3>because I've already sent your first tape to ABC Studio

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Network and I'm just going to give you the role. Yeah,

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 3>And so I just start sobbing, which is like all

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 3>you could go. I don't know, I haven't looked at

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 3>up a while, but I just start sobbing, and I

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 3>was like, what happens now?

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, we're gonna make a pilot to call you.

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have a fitting, and I'm like you're gonna

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>have a fitting. And then they're like, what happen. I'm

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:05.919
<v Speaker 1>there's a table read. There's gonna be a table read.

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 3>And then I'm just, yeah, I look so bumbling and

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm an ugly crier. I look terrible, and I'm like,

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>can I hug everybody? She's like, yes, you can hug me.

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 3>And I hugged everybody, and no, I never I mean,

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 3>that was a magical experience. And from that moment it

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 3>was magical for ten years, Like, truly.

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.919
<v Speaker 1>There was never there was no scandal on set.

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 3>It sucks.

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>We always say, it's just ridiculous. There was so much

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>drama on the show. And we couldn't have been.

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 3>A more well behaved, kind, boring, ywon fest of a cast.

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Like nobody was sleeping with anybody.

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>There was no drama.

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Everyone was like so prepared and type A and just

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 3>like really fucking grateful to like be on this ride. Truly,

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>but no, it was great.

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, she's.

0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 3>The best number one in the business. I mean, this girl.

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 3>And you hear these stories coming up of like girls

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 3>fighting for like the front seat of the van or

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that, yeah, oh.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have to have separate cars to drive down. Yeah,

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:12.439
<v Speaker 1>it's stuff like that.

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Carrie was like, Okay, do you need help finding an

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 3>outfit for like this red carpet And I'm like yeah,

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 3>She's like, ohh on, let me call blah blah blah.

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 3>Like she goes above and beyond in like just like

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:28.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, sisterhood, and you know, whatever happens that's good

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 3>for you is good for the show. So when like

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Bellamy Young gets Jimmy Kimmel and Carrie's over here and

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm over there and Darby's are here, like, it was

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 3>so supportive. And I really feel like I grew up

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 3>learning all of that about how people behave and treat

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 3>themselves in this and treat each other in this business.

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 3>And I've been so like I try to take all

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 3>of that onto every set I'm on. And it was

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 3>a wonderful place to work. And she taught me so

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 3>so so much. And No, I never knew it was

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 3>going to be a big deal or that I was.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:00.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we were on the bubble.

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 1>We did set.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 3>They gave us seven episodes the first season, and we

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 3>were all like I.

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Think Seandan, I think people were pissed.

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 3>They were like I can't believe we didn't get a

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 3>full order, like we didn't even get thirteen, like we

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 3>got seven, because they kind of were like, we don't know.

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 3>And then after we did seven, we were on the

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:20.680
<v Speaker 3>bubble for a season two pick up. Uh huh, And

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 3>then I swear to god they picked us up and

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't until the middle of season two, which ended

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.760
<v Speaker 3>up being a great thing because we figured out the show,

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 3>like it wasn't like an overnight success. And now we're like,

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 3>oh god, we don't know why this worked, and we

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 3>don't know who our characters are and we don't know

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 3>what we're doing. We had already done, you know, fifteen

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 3>seventeen episodes before people started caring, so we had a

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 3>little bit under our belt. But I remember being on

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 3>the red carpet for something and I'm standing next to

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Tony Goldwyn and some interviews like how does it feel

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 3>to be on a hit show? And I was like,

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 3>are we Is this a hit show where we're doing?

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 3>And they were like, yeah, it's a hit show. And

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like, did you guys, Like I honestly was

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 3>like and they were like, no, idea, Like we've just

0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 3>been in a bubble.

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>We didn't know did you want who? Did you want

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Olivia to end up with? Oh?

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny, you know. I was always so team Jake,

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 3>like so team Jake. And now that i'm watching it back,

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:20.280
<v Speaker 3>no racking the toolbox. The chemistry between Fit's it's untable.

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 3>And that's so insane because they are both so not

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 3>like that, Like I have to remind myself. Yeah, when

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 3>I watch it, I'm like, these are two of my dear,

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 3>dear friends who have no chemistry, like like they love

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 3>each other as humans, but like I know, they're significant others,

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 3>like there's no yeah.

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Like, and then I'm watching The Shore Unpacking. Yeah, and I'm.

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Watching the show back and I'm like, what the hell,

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Like they are so steamy and so making out and

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 3>pushing each other up against different things.

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Katie's like, shame on you.

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. I'm just like, holy shit, I kind

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 3>of get why. I mean, at the time, people were

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.839
<v Speaker 3>so obsessed with them, like I saw girls. I'm sure

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 3>you saw this on your show too, like asking fits

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 3>to sign their body parts and like all that stuff

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 3>was going on. But scuff fully, you know, he's he's

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 3>like a brother to me. You know, he's the best,

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 3>and so I was always team Jake.

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>But now that i'm watching it back, sorry, Scott, I think.

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.720
<v Speaker 3>Fits I really lounds.

0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Like you're a team fits Her. Like I was like

0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:34.319
<v Speaker 1>if they didn't, yeah, you know, I just I just

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>love them.

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 3>So hot, like the hottest, the hottest. And we were

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 3>all so pregnant on the show. Now that I'm watching

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 3>the back, we're in the season where Carrie's pregnant the

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 3>first time, and we just had like Scott on or something,

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 3>and he was saying, you know, shooting a big sex

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.800
<v Speaker 3>scene with a woman who's nine months I mean she

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 3>shot till the end. So he's like, oh, shoot, we

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 3>can't like roll on top of I can't roll on her,

0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 3>like God forbid. So everyone's like figuring out positions for

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.040
<v Speaker 3>a pregnant woman. I mean it was like crazy, and

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 3>these are the days where we would do like you

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 3>got like you did, you know, twenty something episode.

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:09.839
<v Speaker 1>So you're working ten months of the year.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not like you could go be pregnant for six

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 3>of those months and just work four like you saw

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing. But it was really it's a special.

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.399
<v Speaker 3>We just went on a girl's trip. I mean, we're

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 3>just like veryver fun. I just slept over stuff Foley's house.

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, his kids are my kids, dearest friends. It's wonderful.

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 1>See that's what you want to hear about a show

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that you've loved. Everybody's just great. I know. It always

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.000
<v Speaker 1>makes me sad, like as much as I love Sex

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in the City too, Like when you hear that it's

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 1>like that, it just it makes me sad because I'm like, wait,

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>so then it wasn't real. Yeah, no, friend, Like I

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to know. I want everybody to be great.

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree, it was.

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 3>It was so they used to oppress people just to

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 3>make fun of us at events because we would sort

0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 3>of just only hang out with each other and they'd

0:53:57.920 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 3>be like, can you go talk to other people and

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 3>be like, we're just sort like we were just honestly

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 3>very much in love and it was really and everybody,

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 3>even though you know there was one. I'm not a

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.800
<v Speaker 3>bad apple, but Josh Molina, who played David Rosen, is

0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 3>sort of like the prankster on set. He's a real shit.

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 3>We love him, but he's brilliant and is the one

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:18.160
<v Speaker 3>that's like.

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:20.359
<v Speaker 1>You could see him being a little potstar with him.

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Whipped cream under your trailer door, shaving cream under your

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 3>car handle. You know, just like dumb stuff like that,

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 3>but you know you need one of those two. It

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 3>was just wonderful. I can't believe. I can't believe it's

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 3>been as long as it's as it's been, and it's

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 3>been the right amount to go back and watch because

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:42.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember anything, and I come on, Quinn comes

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 3>on scream and I'm like, what, Like, I don't remember

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 3>any of it.

0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Joe and I are sitting down with the next Bachelor,

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 4>the one and only Grant Alice, for an intimate, in

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 4>depth interview. We talked to him about finding out that

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 4>he was the next Bachelor, what he's looking for in

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 4>a partner, and we asked him some deep dive questions

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<v Speaker 4>which you are not going to want to mess. One

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<v Speaker 4>thing I think listeners are going to be surprised to

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<v Speaker 4>hear is the process that he's taking to prepare for

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<v Speaker 4>this journey and what some of Grant's red flags are.

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<v Speaker 1>So what season are you now on with Unpacking the Toolbox?

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<v Speaker 1>We are on We just it's the seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>We just are in the middle of the second season

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<v Speaker 3>of Unpacking the Toolbox, but it's season three of Scandal,

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<v Speaker 3>which is when she is absolutely off the tracks.

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<v Speaker 1>Like okay, murder and.

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<v Speaker 3>Sex and Jake's there and Sally Langston's murdered her husband

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 3>and oh my god, Dan Bucatinski, who was married to Cyrus,

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<v Speaker 3>just was murdered and oh, you guys have to go

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<v Speaker 3>back and watch it. Oh no, it's and Hawk just

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 3>had sex on a card roof thing and I was like,

0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:10.719
<v Speaker 3>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are we doing? Like this is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>We just had Debbie Allen on and she directed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love her. Oh she's so amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>She she directed the first time we had like a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy sex scene and we were making each other laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was so.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we would have these like artistic conversations, me

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<v Speaker 3>and Germo being like, well, we probably shouldn't make out

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 3>like fits in Olivia because we're sick, like we are

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<v Speaker 3>murderers spy people, so like we can't do like hot

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<v Speaker 3>movie kissing. We have to do like.

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<v Speaker 1>Tongues down the throat hit it like creepy, like very weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you cool with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm cool that we thought we were having like

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<v Speaker 3>all these artistic conversations, but I think it ended up

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<v Speaker 3>in the end coming out coming out right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of it. I love that. And then you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have obviously said some of the cast coming on. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had yes, and we'll every season. We will because again,

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<v Speaker 1>we just like to hang out and talk.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've had Shonda and Tony and Carrie and Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Foley and Bellamy and Jeff Perry and Josh Maline every cast.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've also had like big celebrity supporters of the time,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we just had Jimmy Kimmel on because he had

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<v Speaker 3>us on like every Thursday night as guests on his show,

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<v Speaker 3>and he did a bunch of specials and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And we just have a lot of people in the

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<v Speaker 3>works who were big, like Gabrielle Union actually quoted Scandal

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<v Speaker 3>and her wedding vows to Dwayne.

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<v Speaker 1>Wade and like she wants to come on and tell

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<v Speaker 1>her story.

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<v Speaker 3>And Avid DuVernay directed an episode, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>just had a lot of kind of prolific people circling

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<v Speaker 3>the show, even fans, so we will be having them

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<v Speaker 3>on the next season. And it's a good listen. It's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty funny, I think, I hope I'm watch the show

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<v Speaker 3>like it's it's I can't believe what Kerry Washington was doing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the other thing, Like I didn't realize. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I know she was a great actress and I was

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<v Speaker 3>on the receiving end of somebody that those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that i'm might you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, now that I'm an old broad when I watch

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<v Speaker 3>the show, I'm like, holy, Like, Olivia Pope should really

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<v Speaker 3>go down as like one of the best television characters ever.

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:27.600
<v Speaker 3>So complicated, so strong, so smart, so conflicted, so cool,

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:32.200
<v Speaker 3>so amazing in her powerful powerful, like you just want

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<v Speaker 3>to be her, and you just it's just she's a

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<v Speaker 3>one of a kind. And when I watch back, like

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<v Speaker 3>that really holds up. You're just like, Wow, Olivia Pope

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<v Speaker 3>is Olivia Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're all going to do a rewatch and we're

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be listening to Unpacking the Toolbox a scandal rewatch.

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<v Speaker 1>Come visit us, Katie in your non spare time. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are you see is Nashel the best. It's awesome, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. Yeah, every I mean everyone from LA is you.

0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Should just come exact know my friend who's also on

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Hunting Wives, Chrissy Mets. Yeah, she lives a lot of places,

0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 3>but Nashville is one of them because she's a beautiful

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:17.760
<v Speaker 3>singer and a country music singer. And then another one,

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 3>my friend Ben Folds is a singer and he lives

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<v Speaker 3>in Nashville. I got to do a Nashville trip. So

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I've never been, never, not once. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>how you get there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great, it's flying LA. There's non stops and how

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>long is that flight? It's like three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I move there? I should come out. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be in LA anymore. That's that was like

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<v Speaker 1>after COVID, it was like why why are we here?

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean this is? And where are

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<v Speaker 1>you from? Originally? I'm from Michigan originally, but I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to LA when I was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's right, okay, yeah, and then.

0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I wanted like Grass, yeah from Nashville. Cat's from here.

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm from Michigan as well. Oh great, Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about this LA thing. I keep being like, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, the actress in me, the struggling waitress actress in me,

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<v Speaker 3>is like, no, you have to be here, and it's

1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:10.960
<v Speaker 3>like re teaching yourself, like no, the business has drastically changed,

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<v Speaker 3>so is the world, and a lot of people do

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<v Speaker 3>things virtually and remotely, and you can always fly in

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<v Speaker 3>for anything you would need to.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you doing. You're also wildly talented and

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<v Speaker 1>you can do. People want you from wherever you live

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<v Speaker 1>to Carolina. I loved Carolina. We need you, Katie, get

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<v Speaker 1>to us. I need to say that to everybody. I

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<v Speaker 1>would thank you, thank you for coming on. We really app.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, thank you guys for this sort and I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>We will cross paths again. We will believe it. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel it. I really believe it. You're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a watch party for you, guys. I feel it. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys so much for having me on. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best girl. Thank you so much. Bye. I Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I love her. Her energy's so palpable.

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<v Speaker 3>See I'm still here now. I know it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about you do it talk talking out least.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Her energy is like comfortable, so much.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so sweet. That's why I was so I just

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<v Speaker 1>loved her characters, seen all their interviews, and like, you know,

1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:14.960
<v Speaker 1>she was just like seemed like we would be like

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:18.000
<v Speaker 1>she'd fit into our little queendom. You know, she'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a riot, she'd be so fun. Do that Cramer get

1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:25.320
<v Speaker 1>her in. That's so crazy that, like I tried with

1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:30.439
<v Speaker 1>her on the show, keep trying and should come back

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<v Speaker 1>so good. It's such a good show, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like they really should you guys, Shonda's brain is I

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it before, but I would literally pay for

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<v Speaker 1>a day past just to know what goes on in

1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:48.480
<v Speaker 1>her brain. I love that she's so great. Love love

1:01:48.560 --> 1:01:50.680
<v Speaker 1>love that I should be like Shonda if I have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, gang put me in a show. It's also crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>like as you listen to Katie, like three different times

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<v Speaker 1>she mentioned really powerful women, men that made powerful choices

1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:05.800
<v Speaker 1>on her behalf of like feeding her dream and not

1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:09.880
<v Speaker 1>like not stifling her, which is kind of rare, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in this industry. I feel like, all, I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>me see you next week. Lilea, Bye bye,