1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: All right, guys, how you doing good? Coming up? I'm 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: coming up for air and between birthday season here guys, 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: So so neigh birthdays in August, that's how I feel 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: in November, yes, and do you have things? Well, it's 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: it's Roman and then a week later's Jace, a week 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: later is me, a week later is Alan. That's four birthdays. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: A week later is Jesus, and then Jesus and then 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Jolie and in between Happy New Year. I feel like 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: there's it's just a lot. Yeah. But Jace had a 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: lot of fun at Legends. Jace I birthday, I was 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: a little out of it because Easter I gave was 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: a nurse and a back injury. I was like, okay, 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: be off today. Are you doing all right? Jace is 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: just such a It's so fun because I love how 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: Jace and Legend like love each other but they couldn't 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: be any more opposite. Yeah, And I'm always like, oh, 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Jace is coming, this will be good for like us 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: being like a dapperhandsome, like good standing kind of guy, 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, and Legend's like, Jace, get over you. Please 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: tell the quote about my sister. Well, I wasn't sure 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: if you wanted me too. I think it's hysterical. So 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: it shows their personalities really well. Well, you're just so 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: cute because it's like, yeah, like you said, they're they're 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: very different, but not, I mean, Legend is still very 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: you know sweet. Oh he's a good guy. Yeah, he's 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: a good kid. He's just a very like outgoing character. Yeah. 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's got I mean he has a mullet. Mullet, 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: so you know, it's kind of his name is Legend 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: wild like I did it to myself. Sure, so there, 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: you know, and Jace is more cautious and a little 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: bit more I say, it's sweet. Yeah, but I mean 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: it's fine. We all like we see it. But it 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: takes him a second to kind of warm up to 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: like the rough and toughness of like that energy. I 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: don't know if it's because he's with me seventy percent 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: of the time, but you know, he's not tumbling with 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: dudes a bunch, you know, I mean now him and 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: like Alan Russell and stuff. But you know, anyways, I digress. 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: So we walk in and he they're bouncing on the 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: big bouncy house stuff. And the boys are just running. No, 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: I walked into them throwing water balloons at the girls. 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: It was the girls against the boys. There were six 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: boys and two girls. They're just chucking these water balloons 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: the girls. And then Jace, sweet Jace, goes to the 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: girls team, and then the one of the kids goes, no, 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: it's the girls. It's the guys against the boys against 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: the girls. And he's like okay. So then he like 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: kind of goes on the other side and gets into it. 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: And then they're on the like the bounce thing, and 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: the adults are inside and I've I can't move because 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: of my back, so I'm just sitting on this chair, beautiful, 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: nice legs backyard. Yeah, I love me. Thanks great, thank you, thanks. 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: And I'm just observing and just kind of watching. And 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: so it's Jace and Legend and they're bouncing up and 56 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: down and he's like, attack the girls, and he's like, oh, 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to attack my sister. He goes, well, 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: then attack mine, and he was like like and he 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: just kind of like stood there like he's a gentleman. 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: He didn't He's like, well, I don't want to attack 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: my sister. And then just without any well, then attack mine. 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I love that, like borrow mine. Then yes, that's but 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: it was cute. They're sweet love that he lived his 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: best life. It was Jake. It was Jay squinting. We 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: did our version of Visit Cake. Legend loves that show, 66 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: so we did like our own little thing. Jay's squinty, 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean so in it. Like I have several pictures 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: of just him, Like he pulled his shades up but 69 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: on the top of his head and he was like 70 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: he was going to win. He was going to call 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: which one was Cake. It was so cute to me. Well, 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: he said the other day, he goes, Mom, can we 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: have camp at the house? I was like, okay, so listen. 74 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: That was not how their house always is. That was 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: just for his birthday party. Yeah yeah, but if you'd 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: like to camp sometime, we could figure it out. Oh yeah. 77 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: And dude. Camp was two hours specified twice on the 78 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: invitation and it was all outdoors. We want to be. 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's very against to like, it's against my 80 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: DNA to have wild you know, and boys are crazy. Yeah, 81 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: but I thought it was so sweet. Oh yeah, they 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: had fun. Well, it's Legend wants everything, right, you ask 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: them what the dream party is and usually includes like 84 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: an aircraft and us flying somewhere, and so I was like, okay, 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: say we kept it to like our postage stamp backyard, 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: what would we do here? And he's like, ah, okay, 87 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: and so we can mind all things. And I just 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: labeled it dude camp And the next one's fifty preston. Yeah, 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: next week, next week, crazy wild? Have we planned anything yet? 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: We can't plan because we just never know where he'll be. 91 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: He's not home so far though. Still he's back out again, 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: so I think like Christmas, and it sounds like don't 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: don't you have their shows like knowing what he's doing 94 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: in the next two weeks. No, I mean we do, 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: but then everything changes, like even just this morning has 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: changed again, so we might have him next week really, 97 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: but we don't think. So I can think shows come 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: that like last minute, well they're doing they own their 99 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: label now, so there's like extra other pieces that are 100 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: also like that would be I'm like, yeah, I was 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: always trying to change stuff. They wouldn't let me. 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, no, you're right, I wouldn't. Yeah, probably not, 103 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: just like yeah, it's just a lot like it's great 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: and stuff, very fruitful season. You know, summer is harvest 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: season in the music industry. Well, let me know what 106 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: we could do because I always love the fifty favorite 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: things party. Oh yeah, where it's like you have fifty 108 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: of your favorite things. So it's like fifty chocolateship cookies. 109 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Fifty, Kristin Bress, Yeah, fifty, fifty of your favorite friends fifty. 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: Like I don't know. It's like it's cute. Someone through 111 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: that one time, and I just always remember it. I'm like, 112 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: all right, when I'm fifty, you know, I had my 113 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: big forty one. Now I want my now fifty fifty. Yeah, 114 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: it's crazy time. Yeah, correct, correct, I have done. I 115 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: love birthdays so much so I feel a little like, okay, 116 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: well this is our tenth birthday together, coming up on 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: our tenth birthday, so I don't I'm like what I've 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: done reverse surprise party for him. I've brought in his 119 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: best friends from home, you know, like I don't know, 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: and just the timing is tricky. So he said we're 121 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: going to celebrate all year long. I do want to 122 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: do like an overnight somewhere just us too. He did 123 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: that for me, and I love it. It's like a 124 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: gift to each other. Really, we should go somewhere. I 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: could be with kids. I know you like to travel 126 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: with the good I do love, but we could all 127 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: like go run a house somewhere for like a long 128 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: weekend in Florida or something that could be really fun. 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: Bring the kids in December. Really, I'm like, when I 130 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: don't say this is a okay, I love you, I 131 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: don't see it unb wrapping. No, there was a gosh, 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: what was the percentage? It was like eighty percent of children. 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: The only thing they really remember are the family trips 134 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: who took, not the birthday parties or any the is 135 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: are there. I don't focus on those things. Focus on 136 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: the trips that you take. Yeah you're really good at that. 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah we love that trip. So I'm like, I got 138 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: to do more trips. But then I just looked because 139 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I was going to go to Michigan for the weekend. 140 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: It's for this weekend, No next weekend. Me. I was 141 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna try for four tickets twenty five hundred dollars. Correct, 142 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: that's economy correct. I was like for to Michigan, to 143 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: the twenty five metropolis of twenty five hundred dollars that's 144 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: a delta. Southwest was twenty eight hundred. I was looking 145 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: at Allegiance. That's where we got. I was like, I 146 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: might actually fly the plane for a discount and rate, 147 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: Like it's wild right now. I wanted to go tomorrow 148 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: and we've been it's crazy. I don't and then you 149 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: can't fight all the time. So I'm like, okay, so 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to book this and then do I even 151 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: get to go? 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's kind of a mess gas lip by 153 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: my airline is I do you know what I mean? 154 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: It's been like that for a while really, but yeah, 155 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: I mean it's especially well is it going to Detroit 156 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: or going to one of the other tribes. 157 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not even like Travers City where that was 158 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: normally would it be because normally the flights were like 159 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty two hundred. They've been high for 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: a while. 161 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: And the problem is is that Southwest you could always 162 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: kind of count on to be cheaper and then are 163 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: more affordable, but that has not been the case. No, 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: have you heard that they're going to change the seating assigned? 165 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: Not cool that some people are like so excited and 166 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: some people are like, I don't understand why you don't 167 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: like it, and then people it's like it's like it's 168 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: so funny. 169 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: What a team builder on Southwest? Yeah, it's a team builder. 170 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: I love it, Like it's a travel you have to 171 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: just go hey, like it's it's I like fighting for that. 172 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: My only I don't really care. But my issue is 173 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: going to be, then what are the costs going to be? 174 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Like exactly, it's going to be higher, and that's why 175 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: we like Southwest, right. 176 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: But also with Southwest you are paying higher to kind 177 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: of get those higher anyway, So I don't know, it 178 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: might even out, it might not. I'll have to see whatever. 179 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: But I also just I just am like it's so 180 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, you get to meet different people, and 181 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool. I will say though, 182 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: when I'm traveling with the fans, I love having a 183 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: sign seat. I love knowing. Yeah, I don't. 184 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: And that's where I travel so much for like cheer 185 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: and stuff, and it's super stressful because with the kids, 186 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: they may not be able to sit together or you 187 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: may not be able to get on with some. So 188 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: I don't I would prefer probably assigned seats. Yeah, I 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: just don't want the prices to be crazy because of it. 190 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Same and they're doing like a their version of a 191 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: first class now too, which is, well, what are we 192 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: going to be paying for that? Because there's no are 193 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: they going to take the seats out and change first class? 194 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: But they would probably do what they do in Europe, 195 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: So there are classes. It's just the seat is still there. 196 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: It makes zero. Yeah, I would be livid. 197 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah if I actually because I umblicious face it, I 198 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: did pay for that aid for a first class for myself. 199 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: And if I did that and there was still a 200 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: seat there, but like you can't even move from the thing. 201 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: I literally stood there and stared at it for a while, 202 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: like I could see you, what is happening? Trusting goes 203 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: what is this? And I was like, oh, I think 204 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: we're in first class. 205 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: I think it wasn't first though, right, isn't it just 206 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: like it's called premium. I guess one of them that, yeah, 207 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: was the Tinier, That's what it was. Yeah, It's like 208 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: we had the same one the three hour flight to Italy. 209 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: It was the same thing. I'm like, this is so ridiculous. 210 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: I'd like to at least can I sit close? And 211 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm next to you. There's a middle seat. 212 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: There's just a middle seat. If you could take this 213 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: thing and move it can't move it can't move it. 214 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: No, I know. 215 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: I stared at it for a long time. That's crazy. 216 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: So I have something that I just want to bring 217 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: up that I feel like you guys are going to 218 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: make fun of me for Oh goodie, just entered the chap. 219 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Can't you want some snacks? I've been Sam's Club. Okay. 220 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: So I was like, I have to bring this up 221 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: to my girls. I'm having like a midlife crisis. That's 222 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: another podcast. But I brought this up in Italy and 223 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: it's still staying with me and I don't know. I 224 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: was like, I need to unpack this with my girls 225 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: on wine Down. Okay, Okay, you're ready for it. So okay, 226 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm so cure. 227 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: I like to guess before and I got sure, go ahead, 228 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: I got nothing. 229 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: Our personalities are so clear when you look at us 230 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: like I'm like on the edge and be like okay, 231 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: go ahead, honey, share and Cat's already got squinty okay 232 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: and go. So this came up in Italy when we 233 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: were at Did you have any guesses? No? None, none, 234 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: maybe none, nothing, pizza continue what I don't know Italy. 235 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: So okay, so this came up when we were at 236 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: a restaurant. I said to Alan, I said, well, I 237 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: asked him the question, what's one thing you missed doing? 238 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: And he said, I can't. Honestly, I can't remember. That's 239 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: kind of crappy. Who maybe we should grab it. So 240 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: and then he's like, what are you miss doing? And 241 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I was like, well, being here, I've it kind of 242 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: made me miss this certain thing. Just from talking to 243 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: the servers in Italy, I was like, I miss waitressing. 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: I was like, because I love waitressing. I loved it. 245 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: I love helping people, and I love like I some 246 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: of my favorite youth memory memories, it's like a young 247 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: adolescent was waitressing because I just love doing it. I 248 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: loved the the the changing things, and like kind of 249 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: managing everything, and then you know, helping people and like 250 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: sitting down. I was I'd get fired a lot just 251 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: because I would like sit down at the table and 252 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: like be overly friendly. This is why we're best. You 253 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: don't think we do that now, Because I feel like 254 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot of my life feels very similar to everything 255 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: you just described, right, but it's like because we have 256 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: to oh and we don't get to want to. Yeah, 257 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: we're not getting paid for and I'm the cook too. Okay, 258 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: what if I like applied somewhere and worked one day 259 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: a week at like a brick like a bricktops or 260 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: like I would would you guys con visit me. 261 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: Duhaut every Monday? 262 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: Is like this is my dream scenario? Like no, I'm 263 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: like actually like he was laughing me, but I'm like 264 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: actually being serious. I think it would be my time 265 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: support it so much. I'm not sure when you're picking 266 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: up it would be like my like literally said what 267 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: is happening? But it would be like like literally because 268 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: it's something that I enjoy doing. It would be like 269 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: my time because I don't like sitting down, like okay, 270 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: I struggle. It's just I'm here for it. Are laughing 271 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: at my dreams. I am so here for it. It's 272 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: just so just life. You're so serious, You're so serious. 273 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I want you to live your dreams. I can't. I 274 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: support it so much. I just I feels like for 275 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: your time not serving others. But I mean I like that. 276 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, I love waitressing. I know I can't 277 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: if you really love it that much to get out 278 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: of the house, we might need a separate offline conversation. 279 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: If I am giving you your latte at Starbucks because 280 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: I need to get out of the house, I cannot wait. Okay, 281 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: I have a couple of questions because I do think 282 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: we are in similar seasons right now. I would say 283 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: I went to third Eye blind and I felt like 284 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: I could do that every weekend for the rest of 285 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: it because we are saving a lot of catch stage. 286 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: And then I started looking up like when is Yellow 287 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: Card playing and Boys Like Girls? Because I just love 288 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: the feeling I had and I I don't know if 289 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm emotional. 290 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Or the same. 291 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: No, it is, because there's so I think those seasons 292 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: of our lives are so this laughing guys turned into 293 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: a breakdown. I'm almost there too. That's why I'm like, 294 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: like I can feel it that cat goes. I feel 295 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: it changing, and I'm like, it's okay. No. I actually 296 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: just had this thought this morning because I used to 297 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: do a morning show for like seven years in Michigan 298 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: on radio, and I love getting up at like four 299 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, like I love getting day under 300 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: me before like everyone else even you know, blink, And 301 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: I was like I have been in the season, like 302 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I named the podcast season last time, like living now 303 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: in the good old days, because I don't think that 304 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: we recognize like that we're in the good old days 305 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: while we have them. Yeah, Like I was always stressed 306 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: out when I was serving because I was like, I 307 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: don't want to get fired. I need this money, like 308 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, But like I look back and I'm like 309 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: the wildest speaking times and so much fun. Like I 310 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: laid by the pool till three, took a shower, put 311 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: on my cute little like black pants, and grabbed my 312 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: apron and made bank because caring well for people a 313 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: densrit to myself is exactly what I'm good at, you know. 314 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: But like I think a lot of that, Like the 315 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: third I blind showed it to me because I was like, 316 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we are listening to you guys. My husband 317 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: definitely thinks I'm going through something because like all the 318 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: music right now at home is like boys like Girls 319 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: and Yellow Card and all those because I'm there's a 320 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: time that it does something for me, Like there's a 321 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 1: care free moment in time and I miss that. Not 322 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: that I don't love what I have, right, but before 323 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: I was a mom, before I was a wife two times, 324 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: you know, like just don't make me count me. But 325 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: like there's something really special about what those seasons were 326 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: to us that it doesn't it makes sense to me 327 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: that you'd want to go back. I would also say 328 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: it won't feel the same. We can try it on 329 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: if you want to, but I do it is sacred 330 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: and special and fun and there's just a part of 331 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: us that lived and I don't even think I think 332 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: because of my worry and anxiety and never like really 333 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: even soaked up everything I was inside of when I 334 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: did it. So I mean, if you I can't wait, 335 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: I want to be we want to be your first table. 336 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh it's happening. Yeah, is sending things back to the 337 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: kitchen already? I would never Yeah, I think said that 338 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: is that what's coming up for you right now? 339 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: Which piece well, like like what she's saying, like you 340 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: just wish you could. 341 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: No. I think it's like we've had a lot of 342 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: conversations in our house about like dreams and like living dreams, 343 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, like my dream is to like be 344 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: on a show again, right, So, like I really want 345 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: to be on a show, and I'm super excited because 346 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: we have Katie Lowe's coming on the show. And it's 347 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: just you know, she's on a TV show that I 348 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: actually tested for, and you know she's got a podcast. 349 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Scandal. But you know, Alan and I've 350 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: been lots of conversation about like our dreams and he's like, well, 351 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: you make great money, and I'm like, but what you 352 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: don't understand is that, like I'm not making money on 353 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: the stuff that like, I'm doing it because it's a 354 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: means to support my children. And I've had to pivot. 355 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: I was like, you don't think that I want to 356 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: be out like busting it again, like because I love 357 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: music or you know, like I would love to play 358 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: big shows again. I'm like, but does that suit the 359 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: mom life? 360 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: No? 361 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Does it suit like you know, you know, I was like, 362 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: I'd love to be on a TV show again. I'm like, 363 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't. Those opportunities don't come all the time, so 364 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: I have to make find means to support my kid, 365 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: kids and you know, the house and everything else. So 366 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, just because it makes money does not mean 367 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: that like I'm living my dream. And I'm like that's 368 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: the piece where it's like, again, I'm so thankful. I 369 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: don't want this to like come out the other way, 370 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: like I'm very thankful for everything, and I've had to 371 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: like be a scrapper and like you know, figure things 372 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: out and kind of like Okay, let's do this and 373 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: let's change here, and let's have a podcast and are 374 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: right now, let's do that. And it's like so I'm 375 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm I love like creating and dreaming things, but it's 376 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: not my ultimate dream, Like it's I enjoy it, but 377 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: some of the things I don't enjoy doing, you know, 378 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: especially when there's certain things that I just have to 379 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: do it for the money piece of it. And so 380 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, I've just like been kind of in that 381 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: mode where it's like and there's other things that obviously 382 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: I can do, but it's that going back to like 383 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: what you said, it's like those are the moments where 384 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm like I'd rather make nothing and enjoy what I'm doing, 385 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, and less responsibility. Like, yeah, those were the 386 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: days where it was like I don't know. And I 387 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: don't mean that either with like me, because I'm like 388 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: I do know that I have to make but it's 389 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: like when you know, we'd have conversations like we have, 390 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: you're making great money, it's like it doesn't matter. That's 391 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: not it actually doesn't do anything for me, Like a 392 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: little piece of meat dies inside when I had to 393 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: do certain things that like that I know I need 394 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: to do to support my family and pay for MIC 395 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: and you know all the stuff. So you know, that's 396 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: where it's just like I gotta I gotta find something 397 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: in there that is filling the cup when the dream 398 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: is like so on. It seems at times in the 399 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: world of like acting so unreachable that it's like, all right, 400 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: I gotta find something because in those moments it's just 401 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: and it's only when like we bring up the topic 402 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: because normally I can put my head down and I 403 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: just go through like grind mode. But when it's brought up, 404 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: that's when like all the emotions come up with it. 405 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: So anyways, no, that makes sense. I just had this 406 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: two hour emotional breakdown two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, like 407 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: what is my Like I don't get a chance, Like 408 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: it's hard to take off even like the all the 409 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: hat that you wear to go like what is my dream? 410 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Because the dreams that I have always had and I 411 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: still have don't really work well with like motherhood or 412 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: a traveling husband or like, and we just talked about 413 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: being like in a good content contentment place and like 414 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: those both feelings can be had together. And I would 415 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: venture to say that most anyone listening to this, especially women, 416 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: would feel a lot of what we're saying. I know, 417 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: but I'm getting to the point now. Were'm about to 418 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: go check in and stamp my card at bricked Ups. Okay, 419 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to tell you. 420 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if that makes you fulfilled, then do it. 421 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: It's going to give me like a moment outside of 422 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: like you know, just to like and co workers. I'm 423 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: going to find something else. But you know what I mean, 424 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's opening, but it's like, you know, 425 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: everything seems like I want to do the charity. It's 426 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: like everything is like so it's like so much. It's daunting. 427 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: There's a lot of work and I'm like I'm like, 428 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: how do I even start that? And like it's just 429 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: a lot, Yeah it is. I got a call with 430 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: Jason Waller and I'm just like my eyes are like, ohh, 431 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: so much, but I want to do it. It's like 432 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: it's going to take. 433 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: A lot to that for sure. Well, and that's the 434 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: thing that's so hard to think, especially for you. It's 435 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: like you say yes to pretty much everything. It's very 436 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: hard for you to say no, but. 437 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: Because I know there's not going to be opportunities. 438 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: Which which absolutely and that's understanding, and that would be 439 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: anyone in your position would probably do the same. But 440 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: sometimes I think if you can say no to a 441 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: little bit more, to have that room in your life 442 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: to really go, Okay, what is it that I really 443 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: And I don't know the answer to that for myself, 444 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't think we all have 445 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: to figure out what that thing is. But if there's 446 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: not room for it, that feels even more daunting on 447 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: top of all the things we already have to do. 448 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: So I think freeing up some of your mind and 449 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: your time and your space for. 450 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: That will be helpful with that situation. Yeah, which is 451 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: easier said, maybe we all go on your Hamburger or 452 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: maybe I'll buy a restaurant. And I'm kidding anyways, but 453 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: let's get im Katie on and talk all things scandal. 454 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Can't wait? Hi, Hey girl, Hey, Hi, I someone that 455 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: comes fly from the closet. Yeah, kindreds, it's the only 456 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: quiet place in my house. 457 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: I used to like really make an effort and go 458 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: somewhere with the pretty background, and then my kids would 459 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: like invade and it was insane. And then I used 460 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: to put up a pop up thing and then that's 461 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: just annoying, so like it can fall over, and then. 462 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: Aren't I supposed to like, oh yeah, falling over crazy? 463 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: And then aren't I supposed to like know how to 464 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: do backgrounds so that this is all like fuzzy. 465 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: But I'm not technologically not even know how to do 466 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: that either. 467 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm just hoping that my charisma and personality distract from. 468 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: It already has. I love you so much. I have 469 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: to tell you like a little funny not funny story, 470 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: But so I tested for Hunting Wives and I was 471 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: pinned did the whole thing, and my favorite part of 472 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, Katie's on the show 473 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: and I was obsessed with you on Callie, Callie. 474 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: Oh you would have been so great, totally different. As 475 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: we all know, actress is insane. 476 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, I mean because I ended up like 477 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: obviously like seeing who it was, and I was like, 478 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: she's amazing and she's so good. Yes, we're very different, 479 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going to just and I knew you guys 480 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: were so close too. I was like, well that was 481 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: that's good for her because they like their kids go 482 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: to the same school like I went, because I like 483 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: I needed to like you know, like make peace with it, 484 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: because it was like one of those where like I was, 485 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: I was devastated for like you know when you get 486 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: that close and you're just like. 487 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it just happened to my husband like yesterday, 488 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: and I was like, I. 489 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, eat this, I know. I I was just literally 490 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: talking to my husband about too. I was just like, 491 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: you know when you just feel like so defeated, nothing's happening, 492 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: and then it's like those moments that are like you're 493 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: so close and you're like you can just taste it, 494 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: and then it goes away. 495 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: And you're picturing your life like you're like, oh, I've 496 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: already moved to Charlotte. Are my children functioning? 497 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: When are they coming? When are they not? Like the 498 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: an accent because Joe Jolie already has one living here 499 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: in Tennessee like they had. I was like, I get 500 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: what you are. You are no what would you have done? 501 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: I mean, well, so I I mean I already had it, 502 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: so I have a it did never actually happened, but 503 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: like obviously, but there's I have two kids with them 504 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: their husband, so it's like I would have taken them 505 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: with me and just like you know, homeschool them whatever, 506 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: and then I have a baby with my now husband, 507 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing. 508 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: Gradually, Thank you, I've gotten down your whole Instagram. I 509 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: was like, I love a blended family situation. It's so 510 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: great girl. 511 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I like, I mean, I had already 512 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: had the conversations. Once I got pinned, I was like, oh, 513 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Like I was like, I am like so and just 514 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: like they're like just between you and someone else, but 515 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: they're like you know, saying all the things, and then 516 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: they call you the next day and go, well, they 517 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: leaned the other way, and I was like unpacked the boxes. 518 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: It was like the gutturll like oh, but then I 519 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: was like friends with the other CALLI anyways, so well, 520 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: we're very know each other for like twenty years. 521 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: We've been in the same mountears. We had no idea 522 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: that like either of I went in for Cali as well, 523 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: which is a ridiculous mistake. I love coming out called 524 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: The Hunting Wives and CALLI is like a sexy, sexy 525 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: woman like yourself. 526 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: You're sexy as well. Now I am not. 527 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 3: I booked the one that says dowdier than the rest, which. 528 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: I like it. I feel way, I feel. 529 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: Better in that arena. I just do like I cannot 530 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: you know. 531 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean. The lead of the show is mal And Ackerman. 532 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: She's a Swedish beautiful you know, model turned actorate Like 533 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, this is not like these are like 534 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: the hottest hoots like leeah. Anyway, I auditioned for Cali 535 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: and they called me and they were like, would you 536 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: come in and read for Jill, which was a different 537 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: one of The Hunting Wives. For those of you listening, 538 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: it's just to show like everyone's a wife of somebody 539 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: who's a big deal in East Texas town. So it's 540 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: like the sheriff's wife, the mayor's wife, the governor's wife, the. 541 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: Preacher's wife, which is me. I would be great. 542 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: My husband was up for something yesterday that was going 543 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: to be shooting in Ireland and I was like already, 544 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: like we're going to international school for the kids, my 545 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: mom's moving with us. 546 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: You're like tonight for dinners, fish and chips, yea or 547 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And then it's like, no, the deal. 548 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: You know, he was this runner up and this you know, 549 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: the first choice ended up making the deal work. And 550 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: you know, they strung him along for a long time, 551 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 3: like we don't think it's gonna work. 552 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: We don't think is going to work. And then he. 553 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: Knows the actor that was in the first position, and 554 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: he was like, I'm just going to call my friend, 555 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: and he called his friend. 556 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: He was like, oh no, no, I'm totally doing it. 557 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: Like I have three kids. I have to put food 558 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: on the table. 559 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: And Adam was like, what the like, this is just anyway, 560 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: It's all good. 561 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: It's I think. I mean, I don't well, I mean 562 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: I am, but I'm amazed. Was it fun? Did you 563 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: have fun doing the Hunting Wives? I just have to 564 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: do I had. I really did have a good time. 565 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: It was so great. Huh you had such a good Sorry, 566 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: I would be really so I never get to I'm 567 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: so sorry. 568 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: I never worked away from the kids. This was my 569 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: first job. 570 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: How old are your kids? My kids are six and 571 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: a half and three and a half. 572 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: And I've taken I'm an older boy and a little girl, 573 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: and I've taken them on every job thus far. My 574 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: husband and I are both actors, and we've been fortunate enough 575 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: to work in like really crazy, different cool places, and 576 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: we've always taken the kids. And this is that first 577 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: year that you hear about where like, oh, shoot, he 578 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: has to go to school because he's at a public 579 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: school and attendance. Actually, Matt, like, you know, you can't 580 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: just pull him out forever and then expect them to 581 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: have a spot waiting for you and all of this. 582 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: So I was pretty nervous, you know, just going through 583 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: the auditions and just thinking, okay, like this is going 584 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: to be my first foray into commuting back and forth 585 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: from Charlotte, North Carolina to Los Angeles, leaving my kids 586 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: here with my husband. 587 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: He did a phenomenal job. 588 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: I cried so much the couple's therapy, like leading up 589 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: to it was just only about my anxiety and leaving 590 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: my kids. 591 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: But everybody thrived. 592 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: I think that was really the big great lesson was like, 593 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: you know, if you marry the right person who is 594 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: willing to really jump in and he does, I'm like, 595 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: and I've done it for him too, Like last year 596 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: he was in Budapest for like eight months, and you know, 597 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: so we're pretty like good at really picking up this 598 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: black when one person get is earning the living, you know, 599 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: but I was terrified to leave them and then it 600 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: really you know, my kid is probably having slight anxiety 601 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: and separation from it, but hey, he was going to 602 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: get it at some time. He comes from a long 603 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: line of anxious New Yorkers. It's he's going to be 604 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: in therapy with whatever way you look at it. 605 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: So whatever. Well, I mean, that's it's amazing though, because 606 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: that we're all obviously moms and we get the mom 607 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: guilts and it's it's a real thing. But to know, 608 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: and there was something that we were just chatting about 609 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: the other day after we podcasted, and she's like, yes, 610 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: we can all do hard things. But sometimes when you 611 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: when you do those hard things, then you realize, oh wait, 612 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: I can do this, especially you know, being a mom 613 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: and trying to juggle it all. So it's that's a 614 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 1: good thing to remember, like you did it. It's amazing 615 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: you can do it. Maybe it was hard at times, 616 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: but you still got through it and it. 617 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: Was awesome at times. That was the unexpected thing was 618 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I definitely felt mom guilt. 619 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: My kids would be like screaming, crying, running down the 620 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: driveway when I was getting in to go to the airport. 621 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: It was very dramatic at moments, and there are moments 622 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: where they were angry and things like that, but there 623 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: were a lot of moments of just total joy of 624 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: like remembering who I am separate of my mom identity. 625 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: There were moments of like me line dancing and two 626 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: stepping in Charlotte, like drunk off my ass with a 627 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: cowgirl hat on and just being like this is the shit, 628 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: or being you know, having a random day off in 629 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: between two working days and just sort of twiddling my 630 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: thumbs like, oh my god, I think I'm gonna like 631 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: is it okay, I'm gonna go to a yoga class 632 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna watch like six hours straight of 633 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: like Bridgerton season three or whatever, and you know what 634 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: I mean, Like those are things I do not allow 635 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: myself to do in LA which I need to look at, 636 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: but because I'm like, well, there's always like something to do, 637 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: like a grocery shop or a pickup or a play 638 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: date or let's get them in the whatever it is. 639 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: So it was sort of really great and I'm very 640 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: much now like looking word to the next job that 641 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: takes me away. 642 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: Adam kept being like, I told you you love it. 643 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: I told you you love it because he's done it 644 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: more than I have. 645 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: Levann he was just like, you're gonna really love it. 646 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: I did. Do You've got to find you in it again. Yeah, 647 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: you know the piece of you that we ta table 648 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: while we're parents, Yeah, we do. Like, oh, it really sucks. 649 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 3: And also there is something to be said where like, 650 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: you know, I was thousands of miles away from them, 651 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: I could not help, you know, like, which is very 652 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: good in a way, because I would figure out a 653 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: way to get there, you know. And it I did 654 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: do like thirteen flights in three months and almost like 655 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: fell over. 656 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah. 657 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: I came back like every five to seven days, and 658 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: and anytime I had a Monday or a Friday off, 659 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: I was home. And then you know, it was sort 660 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: of figuring out for yourself, like Okay, just because you're 661 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: home for three days doesn't mean you have to be 662 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: super mom. In those three days, I'm like cleaning lunch 663 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: boxes within an inch of their life and clipping their 664 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: toenails because nobody else is doing it, and you know 665 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, you probably were pushing it a little hard. 666 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: You could have just taken them to a movie, napped 667 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: with them, cuddled, let their nails grow. 668 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Who gives? 669 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: You know, Like I just I found myself doing those 670 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: sort of like ridiculous control tasks to try to like 671 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: show how much I love them when I. 672 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: Was definitely nail clippers and attachment, healthy attachment go hand 673 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: in hand. Yeah, but also like who else. 674 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: Is doing that stuff? That's the thing I really think 675 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: My husband is never he's great, Never has clipped their nails. 676 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: Never, well it's a little primal, but taking care of 677 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: them in that way, like the grooming them, the shampooe nails, 678 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: for sure, Alan hasn't no clip. Preston gets really overwhelmed. 679 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: He's like, those are so microscopic. There's no way. It's 680 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: hard for those little baby fingers. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's 681 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: so hard and it's so crazy. 682 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: It's a mommy gorilla like yeah, like grooming and approving 683 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: and all. Yeah, And I'm like, no washes their head 684 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: like I wash their heads of course, not like and 685 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: I'm inspecting everything. You know, of course everything's okay, but like. 686 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: No one else is going to look at her ear 687 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: lobes that way except for me. That's has anybody checked 688 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: in on them lately? You know? It's why? That's right? 689 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: That's how how is it with three? 690 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: Because I feel like when you have three you kind 691 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: of have to give up on that which sounds a 692 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 3: little bit, which sounds so great, like it sounds so refreshing. 693 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 3: It'd be like, I literally just don't have the capacity 694 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: to like it's a force. 695 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: It's a forced way into like letting go am so 696 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: a type and control and micro helicopter. And I've had 697 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: to Yeah, I had to turn it over or or 698 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: none of us would survive or we'd all be operating 699 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 1: under laminated sheets. And I'm the only one that cares 700 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: about that, am I? How many do you have? Three? 701 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: We all have three? All three? Right? 702 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: Okay? 703 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: You all have three? 704 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: That seems so wild to me. My son, who six 705 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: and a half, keeps begging for me to have a 706 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: third for some reason, all of his dear friends in 707 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: school are one of three kids, and he's just like, 708 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: how dare you? Like how we only have two? 709 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: Like it's notice that none of them are one of 710 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: four though, because three is where we all are, like 711 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: ants are wrap. Yeah, really it's not. I don't think 712 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: three is that hard. I truly don't think. 713 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: Did you grow up in a house that had a 714 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: lot of kids though. 715 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, like three. But I thought one to two 716 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: was the hardest by far, Like zero to one was 717 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: a little hard. I thought zero to one was easy. 718 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: One to two was I thought my life was over. 719 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: And then by the time I got to wanting a third, 720 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is easy, like you, I mean, 721 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: you just one person has to But mine are older too, 722 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: so they're spread out. So my oldest they are that. Yeah, 723 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: so I have fifteen, twelve and eight, so yeah eight. 724 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: I have eight and six, so it's like or eight 725 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: and five. He's almost ex but like it's like having 726 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: one all over again, like my nine month old is 727 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's like having one incredible. 728 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you were auditioning for hunting wives when you 729 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 3: have like a little baby, Yeah. 730 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: Girl, MoMA's got am. 731 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: And I am so impressed with you. 732 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. 733 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 3: I could not gene crate. I don't stop I think 734 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 3: about it. And then I think I agree with you. 735 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: One to two broke me in a way where I 736 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 3: was like the book stops here, this is not One 737 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: to two was so bananas to have like a toddler 738 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: running around who wants your attention and their whole world 739 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: explodes while you're dealing with a newborn. And I some 740 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: people really love the newborn stage. That is not me. 741 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: I think it is a hellscape. 742 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: That is. 743 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: I don't like no sleeping and no reward with it, 744 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: like baby doesn't care who you are, Like. 745 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like it doesn't matter. I 746 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: describe it best as a foreign exchange student program, and 747 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: it feels like we don't speak the same language. I 748 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: don't think you actually appreciate what you Yeah, and I 749 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: like it when we can talk. I love the newborn stage. 750 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: So it's only because my husband let me sleep. So 751 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: my husband did not let me sleep. 752 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, we switched off, But I still love the newborn stage. 753 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, cat love it. 754 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: My best friend she is becomes like the most earth 755 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 3: mother goddess love bubble person where she's just like walking 756 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 3: around like in a daze, and she like loves it. 757 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: There's like a baby on her breast in her bed 758 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: and all that, and I'm just like pulling my fucking hands. 759 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: Were non three women, but doctor Brown really pulled through baby, 760 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: That's why we loved it. Well, I don't know. I 761 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: don't can't speak to that. 762 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 3: I rested for so long for both kids, and I 763 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 3: don't know why I did. 764 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know why. 765 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: I like, why do that to yourself? 766 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: None of the rumors for me were true. 767 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 3: That did not make me get like skinny really quickly, 768 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 3: Like that was absolutely horseshit. I I don't know why 769 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: I was so I was. I gave birth in a 770 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: group of moms where everyone was doing. 771 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: Are you pregnant? Were you pregnant? Around the same time. 772 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: On the show I was pregnant the final season of Scandal, 773 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: and they wrote it in for Quinn. Blessedness, Shonda Rhimes, 774 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: thank you so much for that gift. And then I 775 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 3: went back. 776 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: To Carrie was pregnant what twice? 777 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 3: Harry was pregnant twice, and so many people on Grays 778 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 3: had had babies too, And I was friends with a 779 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 3: lot of those girls, and they were just sort of like, actually, 780 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 3: this is a great story. They were all like, get 781 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: it done. Under Shanda, She's the best of the best. 782 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 3: She'll take care of you. She's done it a million times. 783 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 3: No one will mess with you, blah blah blah. And 784 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 3: she actually we were hanging out in her office because 785 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 3: we're friends, but we were hanging out in her office 786 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 3: and she just sort of looked at me and she 787 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 3: was like, what are you doing? And I was like, 788 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And she was like, well, 789 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 3: do you want to have a family? And I was 790 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: like I do. 791 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: I just like I was like, clearly, is this a 792 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: test here? I am. 793 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm like thirty six, thirty seven years old, and I'm like, 794 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: I still just don't feel like I've grown up enough 795 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 3: to do that, even though I'd been with my husband 796 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: for like eleven years or something like we've we've been 797 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 3: a really long time. And she was like, well, before 798 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 3: other people know this, and I think some people dead 799 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 3: said it, but in my memory of it, it goes 800 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: like she said, no one knows, but next season's gonna 801 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: be the last season of Scandal, and if I were you, 802 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: if you want to have a baby, I would get 803 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: it done on my watch. And I literally ran home 804 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 3: and like told my husband to. 805 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: Take a. 806 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 807 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, my God, Shanna said, I should 808 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: have a baby like right now, because you know scandal, 809 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 3: I should do it like while I'm working and have 810 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: a job, because she'll write it in and she'll write 811 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 3: out all the months I need off and I'll have 812 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 3: a job to come back to, which sort of like 813 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 3: really helps you, like you know, just have a date 814 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: on the books with which you're like back in like 815 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 3: some sort of functioning mode. So I did have the 816 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 3: baby on the final season of Scannal, and the whole 817 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: time people thought I was so hilarious out of my 818 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 3: mind that she was like, We're gonna start Shondaala in audio, 819 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: would you like to host a mom podcast called Katie's Crib? 820 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, So I just basically do 821 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 3: what Shonda says and follow because when a genius is 822 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 3: like walking amongst you, or do you just say okay, yeah, 823 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: my second baby. Similarly, I was on Inventing Anna and 824 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 3: I was supposed to wrap in April, and I was 825 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 3: hanging out with Shonda again and I said to her, 826 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 3: I said, Okay, I think we're going to have a 827 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 3: second but I'm gonna get pregnant hopefully and no one 828 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 3: will know, like I'll be I'll be like four or 829 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 3: five weeks pregnant and then we're gonna wrap. So I'm 830 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: not gonna like tell production or anything. If this all 831 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 3: works out, I don't know, but we've been trying and 832 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I do get pregnant and a week 833 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: later production shuts down in the world shuts down because 834 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 3: it's March thirteenth of twenty twenty. So she was like 835 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 3: my first email when I was like, I'm pregnant. I 836 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: still owe like half of this series, this show, I 837 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: don't know what's happening. And they waited a full year 838 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 3: for me to have the baby, and then four months 839 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: after they pushed all of my scenes to be the 840 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 3: last six weeks of the entire production, and they move 841 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: the whole production to La so that I didn't have 842 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 3: to travel. 843 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: Wow, that's what I credible. 844 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 3: I know she is a mom, well, she has three 845 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 3: kids herself, and she's just like you know. I mean, now, 846 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 3: I think the business has gotten way better and is 847 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: like actually paying attention of taking care of women who 848 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: are also mothers in this business. I think it probably 849 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 3: used to be terrible, but I think in Shondaland, it's 850 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 3: always been that way. You know, Ellen Pompeio is a mom, 851 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 3: Like there's just like yeah, so she's just really good 852 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 3: at being like work life balance, you can have be 853 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: a mom, you can come to work. We will figure 854 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 3: it out. We had something we had like you know, 855 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 3: there's ten to one on set, or if you have 856 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom or to whatever, we'd like 857 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 3: special code words for like you had to go back 858 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 3: to your trailer and breastfeed every two and a half hours. 859 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 3: We did that and Carrie did that. 860 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: It was amazing. I love that. I'm really excited about 861 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox podcast because so Catherine was the one 862 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: you actually got me into Scandal because she was like thanks, yes, 863 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: So it was probably like second season maybe you're like yeah, probably. 864 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm always we're always kind of like, right, what do 865 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: we what are we watching? What do we watching? And 866 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: she's like Scandal, it's so good. And I'm like, okay, 867 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: I'll let me. Let me go back and start watching 868 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: my two favorite scandals now like to like my top two. 869 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: It's a Scandal to this day is it's. 870 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: It's see why you would love hunting wives. Just I 871 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 3: get it into I'm here for that love. 872 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: So but it's it's one of those I'm like, it 873 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: was such a good show that I'm like, I now 874 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: want to go back rewatch and I'll listen to your podcast, 875 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: So I think I actually wanting to do that. We 876 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: should do it together. Yeah yeah, and Alan's never seen 877 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: it too, and we cannot find a show that we're 878 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: you know that we all watch. Yeah, so I'm like, 879 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: let's go back because it is because even to this day, 880 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: I imagine it's still going to stand the test of 881 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, it totally does. 882 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 3: I actually didn't even think about when when people started 883 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 3: doing rewatch podcasts and I was like, oh, I'd really 884 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 3: like to do the Scandal one. And I called shondaland 885 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 3: Audio and I was like, hey, guys, someone's going to 886 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 3: do the rewatch podcast and I hope it's me. Can 887 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 3: it be me? Can I pitch me? And I think 888 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 3: it should be Geirmo and I'm gonna call him right now. 889 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 2: I love. 890 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 3: I didn't even finish my sentence. He was like, yeah, yeah, 891 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 3: I'm in what are we doing? 892 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: I like so much. 893 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: The only thing I didn't think through was like actually 894 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 3: rewatching the episodes. Like I knew I was down to 895 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 3: talk about it. I knew I was down to like 896 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 3: have our guests on and all the Scandal cast and 897 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 3: directors and writers and guest stars and recurrings and all 898 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: the great people that were amazing on the show. But 899 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 3: then I thought, oh, we have to watch like all 900 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 3: the episodes, and I that was a long time ago, 901 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 3: and I don't remember a lot, and I don't know 902 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: if it was good or if it holds up. 903 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: And the greatest gift has been just like a one 904 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: holds up the show. 905 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm watching all the other hit things that 906 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 3: are Emmy nominated and this, that and the other thing, 907 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 3: and Scandal is still right there. 908 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so good. Wait and you were Connie Britton's nanny, 909 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: like nanny. Yeah, I was supposed to be her assistant. 910 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: I had interviewed to me. 911 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 3: I had had every odd and end job in all 912 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: of Los Angeles, you know, babysitting, waitressing, bartending. 913 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: Did you ever would ranch girl? That was an patch 914 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: is where my I'd go back and forth pot I 915 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: got fired for not being able to open a wine 916 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: bottle there, and I'm like, oh the irony now, oh 917 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: my god. So You're like, I'm never again. While I 918 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: get fired her. 919 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 3: That that cedar playing salmon is delivered so good in 920 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: the LA area. 921 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, so I was like sort. 922 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 3: Of at my wits end and getting close and not 923 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 3: getting anything enough to really quit all the side hustle jobs. 924 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 3: And then I'd always said I'm never going to be 925 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: anyone's personal assistant because that just seems fucking terrible. But 926 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 3: then I had a friend of a friend of Connie 927 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 3: Britton's and they were like, go interview with her or 928 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 3: she lived up the street, and she's such a real 929 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 3: icon actress for me, and I just think she's so 930 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 3: wonderfully talented. So I was like, fine, I'm gonna interview 931 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 3: and see if it's a fit. I interviewed. We talked 932 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 3: for like four hours, and she said two days went 933 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 3: by and she called me and she said, this is crazy. 934 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 3: But I was scrolling through the channels, which is something 935 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 3: we used to do, and she said, and you popped 936 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 3: up as a guest star in private Practice, and I 937 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: feel like you're a good actress and you should really 938 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 3: not take this job. And if you don't book something 939 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 3: by April, you can be my personal assistant, but right now, 940 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 3: just babysit for my kid and keep auditioning, and the 941 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 3: next week I book Scandal. 942 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: Stop. 943 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so when I say babysitting for her like on Mondays, 944 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 3: like and then and now we're dear dear friends, like 945 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 3: and her son is a dear dear friend of mine 946 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 3: and whatever. 947 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you got that call, did in that moment, 948 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: did you know that your whole kind of world and 949 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,479 Speaker 1: acting life wasn't change or was it just like who 950 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: knows that this show is going to hit or not? No? 951 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 3: I mean I think you're always or I am always 952 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 3: like this isn't going to work out. You know. I'm like, Okay, 953 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 3: the pilot's not pill and I'm going to get fired. 954 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 3: You know, they're going to figure out that I'm terrible, 955 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 3: you know all these things. But when I got the job, 956 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: it was so crazy. It's on the behind the scenes 957 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: I think DVD of season one. But I had auditioned 958 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 3: for Shonda a bunch of times for other shows she 959 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: had and not gotten them. And Scandal. I went in. 960 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 3: I read the first scene of the pilot, which is 961 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 3: when Quinn runs in and she's with Harrison right and 962 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 3: he's like, you're gonna work for Olivia Pope, And I'm 963 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 3: like Olivia Pope, the Olivia Pope. And he's like, do 964 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 3: you want to be a gladiator suit? 965 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I want to be a gladiator suit 966 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: whatever we all wanted to be Olivia. I want all 967 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: of her jackets, all of ours, Oh my god, the best. 968 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 3: But I did the scene and she said, okay, do 969 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 3: it one more time, to do it as fast as 970 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: you possibly can. And I was like, okay, I've been 971 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 3: told to talk slower my whole life, so this might 972 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 3: be a fit. I left and a few days later 973 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 3: they were like, they're going to test you. You're going 974 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 3: to go back in. I went back in, thought I 975 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 3: was going to test, and they had the camera rolling 976 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 3: and she said, you don't need to do the scene 977 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 3: because I've already sent your first tape to ABC Studio 978 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 3: Network and I'm just going to give you the role. Yeah, 979 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: And so I just start sobbing, which is like all 980 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: you could go. I don't know, I haven't looked at 981 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 3: up a while, but I just start sobbing, and I 982 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 3: was like, what happens now? 983 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: And she's like, we're gonna make a pilot to call you. 984 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a fitting, and I'm like you're gonna 985 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: have a fitting. And then they're like, what happen. I'm 986 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 1: there's a table read. There's gonna be a table read. 987 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 3: And then I'm just, yeah, I look so bumbling and 988 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 3: I'm an ugly crier. I look terrible, and I'm like, 989 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 3: can I hug everybody? She's like, yes, you can hug me. 990 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 3: And I hugged everybody, and no, I never I mean, 991 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 3: that was a magical experience. And from that moment it 992 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 3: was magical for ten years, Like, truly. 993 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 1: There was never there was no scandal on set. 994 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 3: It sucks. 995 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: We always say, it's just ridiculous. There was so much 996 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: drama on the show. And we couldn't have been. 997 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 3: A more well behaved, kind, boring, ywon fest of a cast. 998 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 3: Like nobody was sleeping with anybody. 999 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: There was no drama. 1000 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 3: Everyone was like so prepared and type A and just 1001 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 3: like really fucking grateful to like be on this ride. Truly, 1002 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 3: but no, it was great. 1003 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's. 1004 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 3: The best number one in the business. I mean, this girl. 1005 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 3: And you hear these stories coming up of like girls 1006 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 3: fighting for like the front seat of the van or 1007 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't know that, yeah, oh. 1008 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to have separate cars to drive down. Yeah, 1009 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 1: it's stuff like that. 1010 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 3: Carrie was like, Okay, do you need help finding an 1011 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 3: outfit for like this red carpet And I'm like yeah, 1012 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 3: She's like, ohh on, let me call blah blah blah. 1013 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 3: Like she goes above and beyond in like just like 1014 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 3: you know, sisterhood, and you know, whatever happens that's good 1015 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 3: for you is good for the show. So when like 1016 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 3: Bellamy Young gets Jimmy Kimmel and Carrie's over here and 1017 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm over there and Darby's are here, like, it was 1018 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 3: so supportive. And I really feel like I grew up 1019 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 3: learning all of that about how people behave and treat 1020 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 3: themselves in this and treat each other in this business. 1021 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 3: And I've been so like I try to take all 1022 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 3: of that onto every set I'm on. And it was 1023 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 3: a wonderful place to work. And she taught me so 1024 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 3: so so much. And No, I never knew it was 1025 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 3: going to be a big deal or that I was. 1026 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 3: I mean, we were on the bubble. 1027 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: We did set. 1028 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: They gave us seven episodes the first season, and we 1029 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: were all like I. 1030 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: Think Seandan, I think people were pissed. 1031 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 3: They were like I can't believe we didn't get a 1032 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 3: full order, like we didn't even get thirteen, like we 1033 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 3: got seven, because they kind of were like, we don't know. 1034 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 3: And then after we did seven, we were on the 1035 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 3: bubble for a season two pick up. Uh huh, And 1036 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 3: then I swear to god they picked us up and 1037 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 3: it wasn't until the middle of season two, which ended 1038 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 3: up being a great thing because we figured out the show, 1039 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: like it wasn't like an overnight success. And now we're like, 1040 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 3: oh god, we don't know why this worked, and we 1041 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 3: don't know who our characters are and we don't know 1042 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 3: what we're doing. We had already done, you know, fifteen 1043 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 3: seventeen episodes before people started caring, so we had a 1044 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 3: little bit under our belt. But I remember being on 1045 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 3: the red carpet for something and I'm standing next to 1046 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 3: Tony Goldwyn and some interviews like how does it feel 1047 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 3: to be on a hit show? And I was like, 1048 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 3: are we Is this a hit show where we're doing? 1049 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 3: And they were like, yeah, it's a hit show. And 1050 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 3: I was like, did you guys, Like I honestly was 1051 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 3: like and they were like, no, idea, Like we've just 1052 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 3: been in a bubble. 1053 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: We didn't know did you want who? Did you want 1054 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: Olivia to end up with? Oh? 1055 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, you know. I was always so team Jake, 1056 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 3: like so team Jake. And now that i'm watching it back, 1057 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 3: no racking the toolbox. The chemistry between Fit's it's untable. 1058 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 3: And that's so insane because they are both so not 1059 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 3: like that, Like I have to remind myself. Yeah, when 1060 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 3: I watch it, I'm like, these are two of my dear, 1061 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 3: dear friends who have no chemistry, like like they love 1062 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 3: each other as humans, but like I know, they're significant others, 1063 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 3: like there's no yeah. 1064 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: Like, and then I'm watching The Shore Unpacking. Yeah, and I'm. 1065 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 3: Watching the show back and I'm like, what the hell, 1066 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 3: Like they are so steamy and so making out and 1067 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 3: pushing each other up against different things. 1068 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: Katie's like, shame on you. 1069 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 3: Oh my god. I'm just like, holy shit, I kind 1070 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 3: of get why. I mean, at the time, people were 1071 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 3: so obsessed with them, like I saw girls. I'm sure 1072 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 3: you saw this on your show too, like asking fits 1073 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 3: to sign their body parts and like all that stuff 1074 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 3: was going on. But scuff fully, you know, he's he's 1075 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 3: like a brother to me. You know, he's the best, 1076 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 3: and so I was always team Jake. 1077 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: But now that i'm watching it back, sorry, Scott, I think. 1078 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,720 Speaker 3: Fits I really lounds. 1079 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: Like you're a team fits Her. Like I was like 1080 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: if they didn't, yeah, you know, I just I just 1081 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: love them. 1082 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 3: So hot, like the hottest, the hottest. And we were 1083 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 3: all so pregnant on the show. Now that I'm watching 1084 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 3: the back, we're in the season where Carrie's pregnant the 1085 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 3: first time, and we just had like Scott on or something, 1086 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 3: and he was saying, you know, shooting a big sex 1087 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 3: scene with a woman who's nine months I mean she 1088 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 3: shot till the end. So he's like, oh, shoot, we 1089 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 3: can't like roll on top of I can't roll on her, 1090 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 3: like God forbid. So everyone's like figuring out positions for 1091 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 3: a pregnant woman. I mean it was like crazy, and 1092 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 3: these are the days where we would do like you 1093 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 3: got like you did, you know, twenty something episode. 1094 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 1: So you're working ten months of the year. 1095 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 3: It's not like you could go be pregnant for six 1096 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 3: of those months and just work four like you saw 1097 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 3: the whole thing. But it was really it's a special. 1098 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,399 Speaker 3: We just went on a girl's trip. I mean, we're 1099 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 3: just like veryver fun. I just slept over stuff Foley's house. 1100 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 3: I mean, his kids are my kids, dearest friends. It's wonderful. 1101 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: See that's what you want to hear about a show 1102 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: that you've loved. Everybody's just great. I know. It always 1103 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: makes me sad, like as much as I love Sex 1104 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: in the City too, Like when you hear that it's 1105 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 1: like that, it just it makes me sad because I'm like, wait, 1106 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: so then it wasn't real. Yeah, no, friend, Like I 1107 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: don't want to know. I want everybody to be great. 1108 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: I agree, it was. 1109 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 3: It was so they used to oppress people just to 1110 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 3: make fun of us at events because we would sort 1111 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 3: of just only hang out with each other and they'd 1112 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 3: be like, can you go talk to other people and 1113 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 3: be like, we're just sort like we were just honestly 1114 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 3: very much in love and it was really and everybody, 1115 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 3: even though you know there was one. I'm not a 1116 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 3: bad apple, but Josh Molina, who played David Rosen, is 1117 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 3: sort of like the prankster on set. He's a real shit. 1118 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 3: We love him, but he's brilliant and is the one 1119 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 3: that's like. 1120 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: You could see him being a little potstar with him. 1121 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 3: Whipped cream under your trailer door, shaving cream under your 1122 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 3: car handle. You know, just like dumb stuff like that, 1123 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 3: but you know you need one of those two. It 1124 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 3: was just wonderful. I can't believe. I can't believe it's 1125 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 3: been as long as it's as it's been, and it's 1126 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 3: been the right amount to go back and watch because 1127 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,919 Speaker 3: I don't remember anything, and I come on, Quinn comes 1128 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 3: on scream and I'm like, what, Like, I don't remember 1129 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 3: any of it. 1130 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 4: Joe and I are sitting down with the next Bachelor, 1131 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: the one and only Grant Alice, for an intimate, in 1132 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 4: depth interview. We talked to him about finding out that 1133 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 4: he was the next Bachelor, what he's looking for in 1134 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 4: a partner, and we asked him some deep dive questions 1135 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,399 Speaker 4: which you are not going to want to mess. One 1136 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 4: thing I think listeners are going to be surprised to 1137 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 4: hear is the process that he's taking to prepare for 1138 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 4: this journey and what some of Grant's red flags are. 1139 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 4: Don't miss the episode out now. Listen to Bachler Happy 1140 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 4: Hour on America's number one podcast network, iHeart, open your 1141 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 4: free iHeart app and searched Bacheler Happy Hour and start listening. 1142 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: So what season are you now on with Unpacking the Toolbox? 1143 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: We are on We just it's the seconds. 1144 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 3: We just are in the middle of the second season 1145 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 3: of Unpacking the Toolbox, but it's season three of Scandal, 1146 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 3: which is when she is absolutely off the tracks. 1147 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: Like okay, murder and. 1148 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 3: Sex and Jake's there and Sally Langston's murdered her husband 1149 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 3: and oh my god, Dan Bucatinski, who was married to Cyrus, 1150 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 3: just was murdered and oh, you guys have to go 1151 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 3: back and watch it. Oh no, it's and Hawk just 1152 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 3: had sex on a card roof thing and I was like, 1153 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 3: oh my god. 1154 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? Like this is so crazy. 1155 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 3: We just had Debbie Allen on and she directed it. 1156 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: I love her. Oh she's so amazing. 1157 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 3: She she directed the first time we had like a 1158 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 3: crazy sex scene and we were making each other laugh. 1159 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 1: I just was so. 1160 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 3: You know, we would have these like artistic conversations, me 1161 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 3: and Germo being like, well, we probably shouldn't make out 1162 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 3: like fits in Olivia because we're sick, like we are 1163 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 3: murderers spy people, so like we can't do like hot 1164 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,439 Speaker 3: movie kissing. We have to do like. 1165 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 1: Tongues down the throat hit it like creepy, like very weird. 1166 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 1: Are you cool with that? 1167 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cool that we thought we were having like 1168 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 3: all these artistic conversations, but I think it ended up 1169 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 3: in the end coming out coming out right. 1170 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. I love that. And then you're 1171 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna have obviously said some of the cast coming on. Oh, 1172 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: we've had yes, and we'll every season. We will because again, 1173 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: we just like to hang out and talk. 1174 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,280 Speaker 3: But we've had Shonda and Tony and Carrie and Scott 1175 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,320 Speaker 3: Foley and Bellamy and Jeff Perry and Josh Maline every cast. 1176 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 3: But we've also had like big celebrity supporters of the time, 1177 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 3: Like we just had Jimmy Kimmel on because he had 1178 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 3: us on like every Thursday night as guests on his show, 1179 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 3: and he did a bunch of specials and things like that. 1180 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 3: And we just have a lot of people in the 1181 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 3: works who were big, like Gabrielle Union actually quoted Scandal 1182 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 3: and her wedding vows to Dwayne. 1183 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: Wade and like she wants to come on and tell 1184 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: her story. 1185 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 3: And Avid DuVernay directed an episode, and you know, we 1186 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 3: just had a lot of kind of prolific people circling 1187 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 3: the show, even fans, so we will be having them 1188 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 3: on the next season. And it's a good listen. It's 1189 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 3: pretty funny, I think, I hope I'm watch the show 1190 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 3: like it's it's I can't believe what Kerry Washington was doing. 1191 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 3: That's the other thing, Like I didn't realize. I mean, 1192 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 3: I know she was a great actress and I was 1193 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 3: on the receiving end of somebody that those things. 1194 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: But now that i'm might you. 1195 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 3: Know, now that I'm an old broad when I watch 1196 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,919 Speaker 3: the show, I'm like, holy, Like, Olivia Pope should really 1197 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 3: go down as like one of the best television characters ever. 1198 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 3: So complicated, so strong, so smart, so conflicted, so cool, 1199 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 3: so amazing in her powerful powerful, like you just want 1200 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 3: to be her, and you just it's just she's a 1201 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 3: one of a kind. And when I watch back, like 1202 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 3: that really holds up. You're just like, Wow, Olivia Pope 1203 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 3: is Olivia Pope. 1204 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, we're all going to do a rewatch and we're 1205 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: going to be listening to Unpacking the Toolbox a scandal rewatch. 1206 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: Come visit us, Katie in your non spare time. Where 1207 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: are you see is Nashel the best. It's awesome, and 1208 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: it's awesome. Yeah, every I mean everyone from LA is you. 1209 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 3: Should just come exact know my friend who's also on 1210 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 3: Hunting Wives, Chrissy Mets. Yeah, she lives a lot of places, 1211 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 3: but Nashville is one of them because she's a beautiful 1212 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 3: singer and a country music singer. And then another one, 1213 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 3: my friend Ben Folds is a singer and he lives 1214 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 3: in Nashville. I got to do a Nashville trip. So 1215 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 3: I've never been, never, not once. I don't even know 1216 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 3: how you get there. 1217 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: It's great, it's flying LA. There's non stops and how 1218 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: long is that flight? It's like three and a half. 1219 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: Should I move there? I should come out. You don't 1220 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: have to be in LA anymore. That's that was like 1221 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 1: after COVID, it was like why why are we here? 1222 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean this is? And where are 1223 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: you from? Originally? I'm from Michigan originally, but I moved 1224 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: to LA when I was nineteen. 1225 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, okay, yeah, and then. 1226 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: I wanted like Grass, yeah from Nashville. Cat's from here. 1227 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm from Michigan as well. Oh great, Yeah, I don't 1228 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: know about this LA thing. I keep being like, you. 1229 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 3: Know, the actress in me, the struggling waitress actress in me, 1230 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 3: is like, no, you have to be here, and it's 1231 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 3: like re teaching yourself, like no, the business has drastically changed, 1232 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 3: so is the world, and a lot of people do 1233 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 3: things virtually and remotely, and you can always fly in 1234 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 3: for anything you would need to. 1235 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: So what are you doing. You're also wildly talented and 1236 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: you can do. People want you from wherever you live 1237 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:29,919 Speaker 1: to Carolina. I loved Carolina. We need you, Katie, get 1238 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: to us. I need to say that to everybody. I 1239 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: would thank you, thank you for coming on. We really app. 1240 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 3: Gosh, thank you guys for this sort and I'm so 1241 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 3: don't worry. 1242 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: We will cross paths again. We will believe it. I 1243 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: feel it. I really believe it. You're going to have 1244 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: a watch party for you, guys. I feel it. Thank 1245 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: you guys so much for having me on. All right, 1246 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: You're the best girl. Thank you so much. Bye. I Oh. 1247 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I love her. Her energy's so palpable. 1248 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 3: See I'm still here now. I know it's perfect. 1249 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: You're talking about you do it talk talking out least. 1250 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I love it. Her energy is like comfortable, so much. 1251 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: She's so sweet. That's why I was so I just 1252 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: loved her characters, seen all their interviews, and like, you know, 1253 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: she was just like seemed like we would be like 1254 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: she'd fit into our little queendom. You know, she'd be 1255 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: a riot, she'd be so fun. Do that Cramer get 1256 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: her in. That's so crazy that, like I tried with 1257 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 1: her on the show, keep trying and should come back 1258 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: so good. It's such a good show, and I don't 1259 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: like they really should you guys, Shonda's brain is I 1260 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 1: I've said it before, but I would literally pay for 1261 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: a day past just to know what goes on in 1262 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: her brain. I love that she's so great. Love love 1263 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: love that I should be like Shonda if I have 1264 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 1: a baby, gang put me in a show. It's also crazy, 1265 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: like as you listen to Katie, like three different times 1266 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: she mentioned really powerful women, men that made powerful choices 1267 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: on her behalf of like feeding her dream and not 1268 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: like not stifling her, which is kind of rare, especially 1269 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: in this industry. I feel like, all, I guess we'll 1270 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: me see you next week. Lilea, Bye bye,