Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Well he's back Rob Gronkowski, ending his one
Speaker 1: year retirement, rejoining Tom Brady now with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: We didn't get a lot of time to react to this,
Speaker 1: just the possibility of hey, hearing Gronk might be coming back.
Speaker 1: You know that, Adam Schefter, he was a buzz kill
Speaker 1: yesterday because all of a sudden, Dannets were talking with
Speaker 1: amongst one another, and all of a sudden was like,
Speaker 1: there's this group text and we go, hey, you're hearing Gronk.
Speaker 1: And then hey, Chefty just reported he's passed his physical
Speaker 1: He's going to Tampa Bay. I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: how was that a done deal? But Gronk would seem
Speaker 1: like an out look. Am I surprised? And did I
Speaker 1: think he was coming back? No? I did not. I
Speaker 1: thought that he was happy working at the WWE. He's
Speaker 1: a very smart and he's a good businessman. I think
Speaker 1: Gronk's good at playing dumb, but he's a smart guy.
Speaker 1: WWE has some business opportunities. And I thought he was
Speaker 1: just starting to get healthier. He had lost weight, started
Speaker 1: to feel a little bit better and We know what
Speaker 1: the game did to him, all the surgeries there, and
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer, And that's why I thought it.
Speaker 1: As much as he'd loved to come back, as much
Speaker 1: as he'd loved to play with Brady at another place
Speaker 1: and have fun, I just didn't think he would do it.
Speaker 1: He joins a talented group of receivers. You got Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: you got Chris Godden. When you got two tight ends
Speaker 1: right now, Brad and Howard, I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: going to keep both of those guys because I look
Speaker 1: at Gronk. He's not going to be your typical tight
Speaker 1: end here. He's not going to be her every down
Speaker 1: tight end. He's going to be the guy who can
Speaker 1: come in and you got guys who are going to
Speaker 1: be able to stretch the field. Gronk works over the
Speaker 1: middle in the red zone. You got that security blanket
Speaker 1: for Tom. He knows what Brady does. Brady knows what
Speaker 1: Gronk does. He's not going to be the same Gronk
Speaker 1: that we saw a few years ago, but still at
Speaker 1: that position. He sort of plays that position where I
Speaker 1: post you up. You know, if you play basketball and
Speaker 1: you have the guy who can just take up space
Speaker 1: inside and you can't move him. That's what Gronk can do.
Speaker 1: He can go over the middle of the field. He
Speaker 1: can take up space. Is he going to have yards
Speaker 1: after the catch? Probably not. But you start to look
Speaker 1: at what Tampa is doing, and of course I'm all
Speaker 1: in on my Buccaneers. I don't think this changes it
Speaker 1: should change their Super Bowl odds, but it did. They
Speaker 1: went from six best odds to fourth best odds in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I didn't agree with that. I think Gronk
Speaker 1: helps them. I don't know how much, and I'm cautiously
Speaker 1: optimistic of what Gronk is able to do. We do
Speaker 1: know about the injuries. We know he's been limited. He
Speaker 1: hasn't played sixteen games in a season since twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: Single digit games played twice in the last six years.
Speaker 1: He's thirty one in May. I like it. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: one of those where he doesn't give you that much
Speaker 1: on the field, but I do think there's entertainment. I
Speaker 1: do think there is a levity that he can add
Speaker 1: and Brady likes him being around. You know. Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: on his podcast had Gronk on recently, and this is September.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody kept thinking if Tom calls, hey, if
Speaker 1: Tom calls, well, Tom eventually called. It just wasn't with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, which we'll get into in a moment. But
Speaker 1: here's a little bit of that podcast with Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: and Tom calls you in December. It says, Rob, come
Speaker 1: on post stretch run playoffs, don't have to come back
Speaker 1: that much. You're feeling good. Your toes are better from
Speaker 1: the CBD, your body feels better, weight weights better. What
Speaker 1: do you see when Tom calls you, h I want
Speaker 1: to have I'm wanna be doing his treatments, getting his piebility.
Speaker 1: If he comes over and rubs some CBD man economy,
Speaker 1: I'll feel twice as good that and then I'll be
Speaker 1: ready to go. Yeah. I mean it'd be hard. It'd
Speaker 1: be hard to turn down your friend and quarterback and
Speaker 1: he calls you late in the season. I might have
Speaker 1: to try some of that CBD. What's a stranger laugh
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson or Rob Gronkowski. But Gronk is back. It's
Speaker 1: good for all of us. But you start to look
Speaker 1: at this, and I know we'd like to look at
Speaker 1: the optics here. Gronk wanted to come back and play
Speaker 1: with Brady, but not play in New England. If Tom
Speaker 1: is still in New England. I don't think Rob Gronkowski
Speaker 1: is coming back to play football. I think Gronk wants
Speaker 1: to have a good time. I do think when he
Speaker 1: gets on the practice field, and you could talk to
Speaker 1: former teammates, they'll tell you when Gronk was in practice,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a goofball. He was serious in what he
Speaker 1: was doing. He was a serious football player off the field.
Speaker 1: He had fun. Remember when we were worried about Gronk
Speaker 1: because he was doing like keg stands and some stuff.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh man, and then you got Aaron Hernandez
Speaker 1: were like none, I'll take the keg stands. I'm good
Speaker 1: with that. He can be goofy all he wants. But
Speaker 1: Gronk coming back, I am cautious optimistic that it can work.
Speaker 1: But you already have a couple of good tight ends.
Speaker 1: Maybe Oj Howard can come back and give you the
Speaker 1: production he had two years ago. Cameron brad is a
Speaker 1: probably the guy that they want to keep because that
Speaker 1: is more in line with what Brady wants with his
Speaker 1: tight end. O J. Howard I think has a higher ceiling,
Speaker 1: but fell off dramatically this past year. All right, eight
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Speaker 1: couple of poll questions here, let me run down the
Speaker 1: guest list. The aforementioned Adam Schefter will join us from
Speaker 1: the Mother's Ship. That'll be coming up a little bit.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Nick Saban coming up in the final
Speaker 1: hour of the program. If you'd like to watch, you
Speaker 1: can YouTube dot com Slashdan Patrick Show, and of course
Speaker 1: are great radio affiliates around the country. If I told
Speaker 1: you back in August, these are the things that are
Speaker 1: going to happen. Now, just understand even if I said, hey,
Speaker 1: these are things that could happen in August. Andrew Luck's
Speaker 1: going to retire, Antonio Brown's gonna be out of football completely,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers going to the Colts. Teddy Bridgewater is going
Speaker 1: to be the Panthers starting quarterback. Joe Burrows going number
Speaker 1: one in the draft. Now this is prior to last season. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, Lamar Jackson's going to be the NFL MVP.
Speaker 1: Luke Keikley is going to retire. Tom Brady's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Tampa Bay buccaneer. So is Rob Gronkowski. All of
Speaker 1: those things have happened since last August. That crazy if
Speaker 1: I said three of these sound kind of far fetched. Wait,
Speaker 1: so Cam Newton's not going to be in Carolina like
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, but the Colts. So Joe Burrow, who had
Speaker 1: a substandard or an average junior season, is gonna be Wait,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the number one, not ta Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: gonna be the MVP. Wait, Lamar Jackson's gonna be the
Speaker 1: MVP over Patrick Mahomes. Wait, Luke Keikles retiring, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is leaving, like and then you throw in Andrew Luck. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, all of those things have happened since
Speaker 1: last August, Yampole, This is why the NFL dominates. I mean,
Speaker 1: the NBA's got some pretty good storylines of super teams,
Speaker 1: but look at this out and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: bad stuff here too. You don't want Andrew Luck going away.
Speaker 1: You know, you wish Antonio Brown would write his ship.
Speaker 1: But from a drama coverage standpoint, there's three sixty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I started to look at this with uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots and having fun, and I know
Speaker 1: that we people are going to be rooting for the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers to do well, as if to say, hey, take
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick. You know, is the Patriot way starting
Speaker 1: to crumble a little bit? Are we seeing behind the
Speaker 1: curtain there? Tom doesn't want to stay there. It's not fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys still have some Super Bowl rings
Speaker 1: to look at. I'm gonna guess that the Packers didn't
Speaker 1: have fun with Vince Lombardi and you got something for nothing.
Speaker 1: You got it. You got a fourth round pick for
Speaker 1: Rob Grunkowski because Rob wasn't coming back. Salary cap wise,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have been able to come and having come back,
Speaker 1: and you got a fourth round pick. I think both
Speaker 1: teams did well here. I think the Patriots getting something
Speaker 1: for nothing. Now we look at and go, wait, they
Speaker 1: weren't going to get Gronk back. So you have to
Speaker 1: understand that Gronk wasn't going to play for New England.
Speaker 1: Gronk was going to play with his allegiance. His loyalty
Speaker 1: is Tom Brady, not the Patriots. It's always been that way.
Speaker 1: Patriots got something for nothing. The Buccaneers got a security
Speaker 1: blanket for Tom Brady and of course, the sports media
Speaker 1: got content for the next couple of days. No who
Speaker 1: had the better day yesterday, the Buccaneers, the Patriots or
Speaker 1: us in the sports media, and we get to use
Speaker 1: this for a little while and then bring it back
Speaker 1: when the season starts as well. And then we get
Speaker 1: to see Gronk in the uniform and how he looks
Speaker 1: in a Buccaneer uniform. He throws his first past to Gronk.
Speaker 1: Gronk in Tampa. What could go wrong there? You gotta
Speaker 1: put him up in Jeter's house, right, so Tom, you know,
Speaker 1: it's such a big house, although it's not that big
Speaker 1: because Tom had to go to the park to throw,
Speaker 1: but you could have that where Tom needs to get away,
Speaker 1: but he can't go out socially, so he just goes
Speaker 1: through the other end of the house and then Gronk's there.
Speaker 1: Gronk sets up like you know, disco ball dance floor,
Speaker 1: got beer on tap, and then Tom can go into
Speaker 1: another world by staying in the same house with Derek Jeter.
Speaker 1: All right, well, come up with a poll question, McLevin.
Speaker 1: What are you sitting on today? Okay, now that they
Speaker 1: have Gronk, are the Bucks the favorite in the NFC. Now,
Speaker 1: I understand you were early and you don't want everyone
Speaker 1: on this bandwagon. But if we put that pull up,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are picking the Bucks now.
Speaker 1: I want them to be a little more under the
Speaker 1: radar here. I don't want everybody this is this. I
Speaker 1: go back to the Cleveland Browns. Everybody hyped him, got nervous,
Speaker 1: and I was like, when PAULI said, well, are they
Speaker 1: more likely to go far in the playoffs or not
Speaker 1: make the playoffs? They said, not make the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: just didn't like the mix. I didn't like the coach.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the whole situation where that Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: is there and is he running the offense? You do
Speaker 1: have Bruce Arians and Tom Brady, So I start at
Speaker 1: the top with people that I trust. With Cleveland with
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens and Baker Mayfield in his second year, I
Speaker 1: just didn't trust that Brady and Arians. I trust the
Speaker 1: Saints are still team. They're not even the best team
Speaker 1: in their own division. In my opinion, the Saints are
Speaker 1: still the team to beat as far as the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. Yeah, I guess now, if they win eleven games,
Speaker 1: you get to host a playoff game. You know, he
Speaker 1: got a chance to do some damage there. But I
Speaker 1: would say the Saints are probably the team to beat,
Speaker 1: certainly in that division. And then you have, you know,
Speaker 1: the Niners are going to be good to get by
Speaker 1: the way. Absolutely stunned. John Lynch, the GM the Niners
Speaker 1: comes out and says, yeah, we had some interest in
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. The conversation, who does that benefit? John was
Speaker 1: in the media. He knows how this works. Are you
Speaker 1: trying to get Jimmy Garoppolo to play better? I don't
Speaker 1: know if this gets Jimmy Garoppolo to play better, but
Speaker 1: if that's the logic, Okay, I just was. I was
Speaker 1: shocked that John would say this. And you know, give
Speaker 1: credit to Rich Eisen who asked John Lynch on his show, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, do you have any interest in Tom Brady? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had conversations. That's why I kept saying until I
Speaker 1: hear somebody say, that's crazy. We're not interested in Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: We got Jimmy Garoppolo. Well, maybe that's why we didn't
Speaker 1: hear Kyle Shanahan say we're not interested in Brady because
Speaker 1: they were. They were, but don't admit it. But Garoppolo
Speaker 1: has to know that. Okay, if I'm gonna get replaced,
Speaker 1: I get replaced by Tom Brady, all right. Now, at
Speaker 1: least he knows that situation. He knows, you know, Tom,
Speaker 1: He's been there before. It would be kind of strange.
Speaker 1: Though for Garppolo it's like, Oh, you gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1: I get traded. Now he's going to come in and
Speaker 1: take my job. But yeah, I saw that. I went.
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me. Why would you admit that? Crazy? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: What other poll questions do you have? Mclovin, Okay, you
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. Would you rather play for a coach
Speaker 1: you hated and won the Super Bowl? Or play for
Speaker 1: a coach you liked and get to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: risk it? The Balochick question? And maybe I don't know
Speaker 1: is Nick Saban qualified for that or his players like him? Well,
Speaker 1: you don't hear those players because those players aren't interviewed
Speaker 1: at Alabama, and I think there is a great respect
Speaker 1: for them, but it feels like they pick their words
Speaker 1: very carefully when they talk about Nick Saban. He'll join
Speaker 1: us later today, But I'm guessing, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: different in college because you have to you're there for
Speaker 1: at least three years, whereas as a free agent, you
Speaker 1: don't have to go play for Bill Belichick. Now you
Speaker 1: can say you don't have to go to Alabama, but
Speaker 1: if you want to win a national title. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the players feel the same about Saban. Does
Speaker 1: he take the joy out of the game. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but he is a Belichick disciple, so maybe he does.
Speaker 1: He coaches the joy out of it. I would rather
Speaker 1: play for somebody. I'd rather play for Belichick, Ben. I
Speaker 1: would Bruce Arians if you said you're going to have fun,
Speaker 1: but you're probably not going to win a championship, or
Speaker 1: you got a great chance of winning a championship, I'd
Speaker 1: like to This is the greatest coach of all time.
Speaker 1: I don't know if John Wooden made the game fun
Speaker 1: for UCLA, but he was the greatest coach we'd ever
Speaker 1: seen in college basketball. There are coaches who do make
Speaker 1: it fun, but maybe Bill or Bill Parcels wasn't fun
Speaker 1: to play for. He was tough, but he one I'd
Speaker 1: rather win and be so quote unquote miserable than to
Speaker 1: not be great at what I do. It feels like
Speaker 1: Belichick is going to buy winning take away some of
Speaker 1: that misery. You know, it's even worse when you're playing
Speaker 1: for a coach who isn't going to win a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and you hate playing for then that would be hell.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I would want to play
Speaker 1: for Belichick. I'd want to know what that feeling is like. Now.
Speaker 1: I may get really tired. I couldn't put up with
Speaker 1: twenty years of that. But that's why we're in the
Speaker 1: position we're in. Brady's in Tampa and Gronk followed him
Speaker 1: because neither wanted to play in that environment anymore. Ted
Speaker 1: and Tampa joins us, and then we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter will join us. Yeah, hey, Dan, a great show.
Speaker 1: The key to what's going on here in Tampa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got the Brady Grons coming after right after his physical.
Speaker 1: The problem is check let's have an NFL Central efficiency
Speaker 1: rating for the offensive line. They've been in the bottom
Speaker 1: six and the league for the last five years, and
Speaker 1: their left tackle has had the last rating of all
Speaker 1: left tackles in the league for the last four years. Well,
Speaker 1: I know they're going to do something, Ted, they are.
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be silly to bring in Brady
Speaker 1: and then not have a good offensive line because we
Speaker 1: know that he has no ability to extend to play
Speaker 1: they're going to take That'd be the first question I'm asked.
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm Brady, and I say to Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do with the offensive line? That'd
Speaker 1: be a first question. What are we going to do?
Speaker 1: Can you trade oj Howard? Can you get a draft pick?
Speaker 1: Can you get an offensive lineman in return? That's what
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're exploring here. But there's no way that
Speaker 1: that offensive line is going to be the same offensive line. Now,
Speaker 1: Brady will make that offensive line better. You hope that
Speaker 1: that offensive line makes Brady better as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that will certainly be addressed. It better because my Buccaneers
Speaker 1: are going to the super Bowl. Yeah, Paul Dan. Your Patriots, though,
Speaker 1: have a lot of draft capital. They got a first
Speaker 1: round pick, they have three three's, a four, five, and
Speaker 1: four sixth round draft picks. A lot of people think
Speaker 1: they're going to try to jump up a little bit
Speaker 1: package some stuff. A lot of rumors. All right, This
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Speaker 1: He's Adam Schefter. He's ESPN Senior NFL Analyst and host
Speaker 1: of the Adam Schefter Podcast. We played a clip of
Speaker 1: Adam I believe back in September when he talked to
Speaker 1: Gronk about that possibility of coming back, and Adam joins
Speaker 1: us on the program. Adam, when did you start to
Speaker 1: get win that Gronk was indeed ready to come back. Well,
Speaker 1: the funny thing is, I will tell you this, Dan,
Speaker 1: about a month ago, Jeff passing, our baseball insider, if
Speaker 1: I could say this texting me that he was told
Speaker 1: Gronk is coming back, and I made some calls and
Speaker 1: it was kind of pooh pooed at the time. But
Speaker 1: also got word that there are a lot of players
Speaker 1: that were contacting Tampa that wanted to come play for Tom.
Speaker 1: It was not just him, And again it was the
Speaker 1: kind of thing that was just out there now. The
Speaker 1: speed at which it developed yesterday surprised me. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Maybe it's draft week, it shouldn't have, but
Speaker 1: it just seemed like it was an idea a month
Speaker 1: ago that may or may not go somewhere, and then
Speaker 1: obviously it took off an exploded yesterday. If Brady is
Speaker 1: still in New England, is Gronk out of retirement. I
Speaker 1: don't believe he is. No. I think that this will
Speaker 1: is a situation where if Tom left there wherever he went,
Speaker 1: Gronk would have gone. If Tom would have gone to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to put for the Chargers, I believe we
Speaker 1: might be having this conversation today about Gronk playing for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. If Tom had gone to San Francisco to
Speaker 1: play for the forty nine Ers, I think Gronk might
Speaker 1: be playing with George Kittle there in the Bay Area
Speaker 1: wherever he was going to go. I think Gronk had
Speaker 1: it in his mind that he'd be interested in following
Speaker 1: and you need no further evidence of that than going
Speaker 1: back two years ago to the draft of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: Right before that draft, the Patriots reached an agreement with
Speaker 1: the Lions to trade Gronk to Detroit, and they were
Speaker 1: going to trade Gronk and a second round pick and
Speaker 1: get back a second and a first round pick, which
Speaker 1: would have given the Patriots three first round picks in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. And Gronk, when he found out he was
Speaker 1: going said I'm going to retire. I'm not going to Detroit.
Speaker 1: Don't want to anywhere else but with Tom and so
Speaker 1: I think there's the evidence of the loyalty. And it
Speaker 1: was going to be Tampa Bay in this particular case,
Speaker 1: or it was going to be nothing, which is why
Speaker 1: then I think New England really was stuck. New England
Speaker 1: doesn't get stuck off in But in this particular case,
Speaker 1: Gronk had a ten million dollars salary. They only got
Speaker 1: a million dollars against the cap. If he says I'm
Speaker 1: coming back, they got to carry that salary, clear the
Speaker 1: space and make room for him. And they weren't prepared
Speaker 1: to do that when he didn't want to do that
Speaker 1: could have made life hard for them, and so they
Speaker 1: took a player that wasn't going to play for them
Speaker 1: and turned it basically into a fourth round pick. Did
Speaker 1: the Patriots have a good day yesterday? Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was a bad day. I think it was
Speaker 1: business as usual for them. I think that they again
Speaker 1: traded Gronk in a seven for four, So to me,
Speaker 1: that's about as good as they could do in that
Speaker 1: particular case. Now, I guess you're asking that because there's
Speaker 1: some people saying, oh boy, Tom's gone, Gronk's gone. People
Speaker 1: want to leave that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it is where you think they care there? They don't care.
Speaker 1: They're going on. They got the draft tomorrow. They got
Speaker 1: twelve picks. They're tied with the Vikings and the Jaguars
Speaker 1: for the second most picks of the draft. They're looking ahead,
Speaker 1: they're not looking back to and they're onto the draft.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Belichick cared? Does he care about
Speaker 1: this story other than they got a fourth round pick?
Speaker 1: And I'm with you on this. I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: did better. I mean, they got something for nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I get that. But do you think that
Speaker 1: Belichick cares about this situation that those two are reunited.
Speaker 1: I don't I think that. I think he's so singularly
Speaker 1: focused on what he needs to get done and the
Speaker 1: draft and the difficult times that we're all living in
Speaker 1: and trying to adapt his organization to where we're at
Speaker 1: right now that at the risk are sending route. The
Speaker 1: last thing he's thinking about is Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski.
Speaker 1: He couldn't care less. In my mind, we're talking to
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, of course, the great insider. He'll be working
Speaker 1: the draft, and of course his podcast, the Adam Schefter Podcast,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Zach Taylor. We had Zach Taylor on and
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we're kind of locked in on
Speaker 1: who we're going to take. Um have they have they
Speaker 1: wavered at all? Has there been an offer presented to
Speaker 1: them about going up to number one? I don't believe
Speaker 1: they wavered one bit. Dan. I'm sure people have called
Speaker 1: and they have held firm and true to the guy
Speaker 1: that they've wanted all along. They have not balked at all.
Speaker 1: They have not wavered at all, not to my knowledge.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have gotten some calls and they have
Speaker 1: told anybody is who is called to date, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, but no, thank you. We are staying where
Speaker 1: we are and we're going to take the quarterback from
Speaker 1: Lsu Joe Burrow. And I know that you're you're not
Speaker 1: an analyst, You're an insider. But when you start to
Speaker 1: look at what's going on, like you have to be
Speaker 1: an analyst in looking at the games that are played
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, what is real what is not?
Speaker 1: You know? And I always say, it's a roller coaster
Speaker 1: ride for every quarterback. And you look each week and
Speaker 1: it felt like each quarterback got a week where we
Speaker 1: talked about them, we praise them, and then we bury them.
Speaker 1: You know, Jordan Love had his week and then you know,
Speaker 1: it feels like Justin Herbert got his week, and now
Speaker 1: TWA is getting a week that he doesn't want because
Speaker 1: it's all negativity here. How do you sort out exactly
Speaker 1: what is going on with Tua and his camp? You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny to say that because I think of that
Speaker 1: and every year we watch it unfold, and I think
Speaker 1: this is the thirtieth NFL draft that I've covered, and
Speaker 1: you see these guys in a way, they're like stocks.
Speaker 1: Their stock is up one week, their stock is down
Speaker 1: the next it's up, it's down, and you never quite
Speaker 1: know the way it's going to go. But rest be
Speaker 1: assured during the process, almost everybody outside the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick will have his stock down at some point
Speaker 1: in time, no matter how good he is. And so
Speaker 1: two has gone through that look. And I'm a part
Speaker 1: of this like I ride that wave too. Last week,
Speaker 1: I thought, boy, justin Herbert's going to the Dolphins, I think,
Speaker 1: And now I don't know that I think that anymore.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what I think. The Miami five
Speaker 1: would be perfectly frank if I'm gonna tell it like
Speaker 1: it is, because the Dolphins has done a great job.
Speaker 1: When you talk to people, they say, I say, what
Speaker 1: do you know? They said, I know. It's very quiet
Speaker 1: out of Miami. My sense today is that the Dolphins
Speaker 1: like Jordan Love and tah more than they like Herbert.
Speaker 1: But do I know that. I don't know that. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm listen. That's the beauty of this trip,
Speaker 1: you know why, Because it's the bewitching hour. It's the
Speaker 1: moment of the truth, and everybody's got to put their
Speaker 1: cars on the table, right like, yep, here's the quarterback
Speaker 1: we like, we like this one. We're taking this guy
Speaker 1: and there's no hiding it. But you also have people
Speaker 1: who will remember when two OF was getting roughed up
Speaker 1: and then Trent Dilfer, who had been working him out,
Speaker 1: came to his defense. And then it like it's this
Speaker 1: game of ping pong with opinions. Here Boomer as Siason
Speaker 1: going after Mike Lombardi talking about how how could you
Speaker 1: dare leak this information about two Of? This is a
Speaker 1: smear campaign, you know? Are they hoping that he gets
Speaker 1: to New England and Belichick takes two because he's friends
Speaker 1: with Saban, Like there's some wild bleep going on here.
Speaker 1: That's what the draft is and always has been. And
Speaker 1: it's a situation where that, I mean, it's just yet
Speaker 1: your team's floating things an effort to help themselves. You
Speaker 1: never know if they're pushing an agenda to try to
Speaker 1: get a certain player to a certain spot. All it
Speaker 1: takes is one like you hear anonymous medical things. I'll
Speaker 1: say this medically. I never like to say this is
Speaker 1: just me too much about a guy before for a draft,
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's fair to the player, and
Speaker 1: I think it is a situation. I'm not telling you
Speaker 1: that that somebody's gonna say it's gonna influence, but maybe
Speaker 1: it does. Maybe it does. Let the process fallow where
Speaker 1: it will, and then you come out and say something
Speaker 1: afterwards about the guy's medical I remember a few years
Speaker 1: ago I was told that Shack Lawson, who was projected
Speaker 1: as the first round pick, I think it, had a
Speaker 1: torn labor if my memory serves me correct. I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything about it. I just let the draft unfold
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills round up taking him, and I
Speaker 1: popped on the ESPN and said, well, Shack lost In
Speaker 1: great player, but there were some teams that are concerned
Speaker 1: about his labor and might need surgery. And the Bills
Speaker 1: came on. Rex was the head coach that says that's
Speaker 1: not true, doesn't need it, And a week later Shack
Speaker 1: lost In had torn labor surgery. Well, I did the
Speaker 1: NBA draft one year and I had an agent from
Speaker 1: another client, a group of clients come up to me
Speaker 1: and say, I hope you're going to bring up you know,
Speaker 1: this guy's his knee problems. He won't last more than
Speaker 1: five years in the NBA. Who was the guy Paulie
Speaker 1: drafted by Portland was Brandon Roy and he did have
Speaker 1: knee issues. But this agent said, I hope you and
Speaker 1: Billis are going to talk about this on the show.
Speaker 1: That guy won't last five years because of his need issues.
Speaker 1: Listen a lot of times then where they're smoked, there's
Speaker 1: fire and it's it's real sometimes okay, but sometimes it's not.
Speaker 1: And you know what, different guys heal and and and
Speaker 1: and take care of their bodies differently and have chances
Speaker 1: to throw. You just don't know. It depends on where
Speaker 1: they go, how they hand. There's there's no way it
Speaker 1: didn't fully know. It's it's really just a dart throw
Speaker 1: and seeing what happens. But you know, to me, just
Speaker 1: personally with the injury kind of stuff, unless it's you know,
Speaker 1: obvious out there, everyone knows, you know, some of the
Speaker 1: quieter thing, I just like to leave it alone. And
Speaker 1: then when the guys drafted you go say something about it.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this. I was absolutely dumbfounded that
Speaker 1: John Lynch said to rich And, yeah, we did a
Speaker 1: drive by with Tom Brady. Why why say that? Because
Speaker 1: I think people suspected that they were interested, and look,
Speaker 1: I guess what I would say in response to that,
Speaker 1: is there are thirty one other teams that should have
Speaker 1: been having that conversation. Well, maybe not thirty one because
Speaker 1: Kansas City shouldn't have had it. But if you're a quarterback,
Speaker 1: or you're a team and you got a quarterback that
Speaker 1: hasn't been a perennial Pro Bowl player, a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame guy, every single one of those teams should
Speaker 1: be discussing as the forty nine ers did, do we
Speaker 1: make this move, should we make this move? Do we
Speaker 1: go sign Tom? And what would happen with our quarterback?
Speaker 1: What are we in a better spot now? Long term?
Speaker 1: I just think it's healthy. Now, it's a must lie
Speaker 1: situation at him. It's a must lie, especially with Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: who's already you know, taking the slings and arrows here.
Speaker 1: He's already a little sensitive here. I'm gonna gas, and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, your coach doesn't come out
Speaker 1: and dispel anything. They should have said, No, we have
Speaker 1: our guy. We wish Tom well, he's always been a
Speaker 1: great opponent, but we got our guy. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: argue with you, Dan, but listen to my point. Like
Speaker 1: I said, twenty teams should have had that discussion. But
Speaker 1: I guess most of them wouldn't admit that they did.
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, where are you going to be tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Exactly where I'm sitting right now, my home office and
Speaker 1: my dogs on my couch, my kids screaming for me,
Speaker 1: my wife's saying, come and take out the garbage whatever
Speaker 1: it made backy, have you heard about our Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: T shirt situation? What is your Tampa Bay situation? Well,
Speaker 1: we came out with the T shirt as soon as
Speaker 1: Tom announced he was going to Tampa Bay. We came
Speaker 1: up with Tampa Bay made T shirts. Not bad? You
Speaker 1: know what I like better? What could we do this? Now? Like?
Speaker 1: Can I whisper it to an? Are you guys? And
Speaker 1: like we were going together? Dan? Sure I can do
Speaker 1: a rev rev share. Although if you say it now,
Speaker 1: then you said it on the air and now it's
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's on record. Anything ingenious? Okay?
Speaker 1: Here we here we go. But I like I like
Speaker 1: the T shirts the the Tampa Bay Patriots or the
Speaker 1: New England Buccaneers. All right, at this point is simple.
Speaker 1: I the Tampa Patriots. How about that. I don't think
Speaker 1: we need to get cute, just the Tampa Patriots. I
Speaker 1: mean that we don't need to get cute here. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about this one the Gronkin ears. I'm sure he
Speaker 1: likes that. You know. Well, we're printing up that T
Speaker 1: shirt this morning. Okay, well, yeah, send something to me.
Speaker 1: You send something to me then, yeah, it'd be more
Speaker 1: than happy to Okay, good Now, you struck me as
Speaker 1: a sleeveless kind of guy. Definitely not a sleeveless kind
Speaker 1: of guy. You know, you get like little patch of
Speaker 1: hair growing on your arm. And I saw Michael Scott,
Speaker 1: you know, in the office in the basketball game, and
Speaker 1: it struck me as you might be sort of a
Speaker 1: Michael Scott like basketball player, like surprisingly jacked uh back
Speaker 1: in the day. You know, I was the last guy
Speaker 1: my high school basketball team. I wasn't very good, but
Speaker 1: I was a try hard guy. I was not talented
Speaker 1: like you and basketball dad. You were a try hard guy.
Speaker 1: Always been a try hard guy. Never very talented, but
Speaker 1: always try hard. We'll get you some T shirts. We
Speaker 1: got the Tampa Bay. Well, we were told by Tom's
Speaker 1: law firm that we have to I got a letter yesterday. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they said we got to stop selling the T shirts
Speaker 1: by the end of the I didn't get that yet.
Speaker 1: I think I got a cease. I didn't get the
Speaker 1: desist yet. Yeah, but yeah, we have to stop selling
Speaker 1: those T shirts. But like I said, New England Buccaneers
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Page, it's just it's simple but effective. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll work shop that. Yeah, please do all right, have
Speaker 1: fun tomorrow and don't tip anything. Thanks for having me
Speaker 1: b well and stay safe to you and everybody out there.
Speaker 1: That's Adam Schefter, ESPN senior NFL insider the Adams After
Speaker 1: podcast as well. This week is a guest Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: and the head coach of the Bengals, Zach Taylor. Always
Speaker 1: good to have Chefty on. But I wanted a little
Speaker 1: bit more of according period, a little bit more flirtation
Speaker 1: with the gronk situation that happened quickly, in the words
Speaker 1: of bron Burgundy, that escalated quickly. I went, wait, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, no, no, any past is physical. How did
Speaker 1: grunt pass his physical? Okay? Was it a virtual physical? Damn?
Speaker 1: I want to do that where I don't have to
Speaker 1: go in. I could do a virtual physical. So how
Speaker 1: are you feeling, son? Man? Let me feel myself good?
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm sleeping with my barber. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a shock to say this
Speaker 1: on a national radio and TV. I'm sleeping with my barber. Yeah, Steve, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. My wife gave me a haircut this name. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was one of those She goes, do you care
Speaker 1: if I cut your hair? And I said, you've had
Speaker 1: a class wine, no, and she said no, I'll be good.
Speaker 1: And they take that first and I go and you
Speaker 1: see just a clump of hair falling and go, oh
Speaker 1: my god. And I thought, I'm gonna come in. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look like Fritzie. Yeah. Pop. It was a little
Speaker 1: flyaway light. Yes, hey, looked like you, uh, about two
Speaker 1: weeks past your window by far, by far. And my
Speaker 1: wife goes to CBS and she goes, hey, I add
Speaker 1: some clippers and I go, ok hey, And so she
Speaker 1: gave me a haircut last night. Yes to what's that light?
Speaker 1: Seeing a clump of hair? Just trying to share the
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's all about about. How many
Speaker 1: decades has it been since you've seen a clump of Wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's me, that's but back here, back here, and
Speaker 1: the little arm hare that schefter Fritzie Little punches arm here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, So we have a new T shirt. It's uh,
Speaker 1: the the Gronkin Ears. We'll show it to you coming.
Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna say that's so bad. We
Speaker 1: know it is. We thought Tampa Bay was so bad
Speaker 1: and it got us in trouble. Yeah, seton. Now you
Speaker 1: have a set, Yeah, the Tampa Bay and the Gronk
Speaker 1: Ears Gronken Ear together. Yes, you have to complete the
Speaker 1: set now, we do, we do, but the Gronken Ears.
Speaker 1: That's the new T shirt. I believe it's up on
Speaker 1: the website already. You can order it, yes time now.
Speaker 1: I Gronk doesn't seem like the type that's gonna have
Speaker 1: his lawyers contact us about that. I don't think we
Speaker 1: need to mention that right now, do we? I don't
Speaker 1: think what if Gronk is hired the same law firm
Speaker 1: as Tom It's possible. Yeah, it's his. That's why we
Speaker 1: should just let's just plead ignorance here, or we you know,
Speaker 1: take the bull by the horns and through the trademark
Speaker 1: thing and not if we've been worried about. I don't
Speaker 1: want the trademark to it. I didn't. Someone's gonna come
Speaker 1: in and stop us from making them and we have
Speaker 1: to consider it. It's okay, how about you and all
Speaker 1: your free time, you file for the trademark toime. I'll
Speaker 1: have to look at it. I'll make some calls. I'm
Speaker 1: good at making call. There is no way that this
Speaker 1: will go any further than what it just did right here.
Speaker 1: There's no way. But if you want it, go get it.
Speaker 1: I think I'll look it to that. I'll call my
Speaker 1: trademark people. I don't cut the trademark content. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right. Play of the Day is coming up next year.
Speaker 1: A little bit later on, we'll talk to Nick Saban
Speaker 1: and check in with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as well.
Speaker 1: Back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick
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Speaker 1: and South Carolina. Hi, Matt, what do you have for
Speaker 1: me today? Hey? What's up? DT? I was gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: how this affects the Billichick em way in the long run.
Speaker 1: I know Schefter said he doesn't care, but it seems like,
Speaker 1: just from an optics point of it, it seems like
Speaker 1: a big statement and also just one of the lack
Speaker 1: of journalistic integrity not giving credit to the original breaker
Speaker 1: of the story. Shout out to Leroy, the twelve year
Speaker 1: old blind English mastiff who's addicted to breaking news. Have
Speaker 1: you retired? To le Roy? All right? Thank you man.
Speaker 1: Little Barstool's Sports mentioned there. I saw with Daniel Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, who worked the draft for the NFL Network
Speaker 1: at a tweet, here's a good strategy for the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty NFL draft. Just collect as many LSU players as possible.
Speaker 1: How many times have you watched a game and they
Speaker 1: do the introductions with the players, you know, Sunday Night
Speaker 1: football players from LSU, players from LSU, players from LSU.
Speaker 1: And then I'd always go, how are they not winning
Speaker 1: multiple national championships? And that was back when coach Miles
Speaker 1: was there, and I kept thinking, they have so much talent. Now.
Speaker 1: They always had a quarterback issue. Now they not anymore,
Speaker 1: at least they didn't have it last year. I was
Speaker 1: also wondering we got Nick Saban on in the final
Speaker 1: hour today, Nick Saban. Since the two thousand and eight draft,
Speaker 1: which followed Saban's first season at Alabama, Alabama's had eighty
Speaker 1: seven players drafted. That's twelve more than the next program, LSU.
Speaker 1: In that time span, Alabama's had twenty nine players drafted
Speaker 1: in the first round. That's eleven more than any other school.
Speaker 1: Ohio State is second. Start day, start days, stat of
Speaker 1: the day, stat of the day, start day, start day,
Speaker 1: start of the day start It's a good friends twitterle
Speaker 1: Now we normally have them on four twenty, but due
Speaker 1: to the social distancing here in the coronavirus, we couldn't
Speaker 1: have them on. Yeah, Paul, I wonder what they did
Speaker 1: when they're sitting on that day. Jason Locke and for
Speaker 1: the NFL reporter for CBS. While O. J. Howard was
Speaker 1: not part of the grand trade, I'm told there remains
Speaker 1: a distinct also, you know he left out he misspelled
Speaker 1: distinct possibility ends up in New England and this is
Speaker 1: hardly the only option for him, but very much alive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's obvious. With OJ Howard and the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and you know how much Belichick loves the tight end position.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can have three tight ends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it with Gronk that you need to have
Speaker 1: that insurance there, and Cameron brad if you have oj Howard.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have formations where I have
Speaker 1: all three tight ends out there. Maybe you do, but
Speaker 1: that's Jason Lackin for I get that that. In fact,
Speaker 1: when we first started, Mike Florio brought this to my
Speaker 1: attention and he said, hey, if Gronk comes back, he's
Speaker 1: got leverage against the Patriots salary cap issues and he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play in New England. Therefore, what's New
Speaker 1: England get for him? The fact that you can't take
Speaker 1: on his salary, what can I get? And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened. Gronk had average said I want to come
Speaker 1: back and play, and the Patriots go, you know, we've
Speaker 1: we've moved on from Tom and we've moved on from you.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't gonna play for New England anyway. Now
Speaker 1: he had, he had leverage and he used it. And
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, does Gronk call Tom? Because Gronk call
Speaker 1: along said, Hey, if Tom calls man, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. Now, maybe he was joking, but
Speaker 1: does Tom call? Does Tom let him know? Lately? I'm
Speaker 1: just wondering this scenario. Okay, So I'm gonna go over
Speaker 1: there and see Robert Kraft, mister Craft and tell him
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stay here. I'm gonna call Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: and then I probably called my wife Juselle and I say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, she'll go how did it go? Good? Good? Good?
Speaker 1: And then I call Gronk. Now you've already talked to
Speaker 1: Bruce arians earlier in the night. Then maybe you say
Speaker 1: to Gronk, hey, bro Tappa Bay, keep it quiet, let
Speaker 1: me know what you think. That's where I'm headed. And
Speaker 1: maybe that's where we are right now because of that.
Speaker 1: But if Brady calls you and says, how are you feeling? Now,
Speaker 1: Gronk could say, well, what do you mean by that? Like?
Speaker 1: How am I feeling after last night having beers with
Speaker 1: my brothers? Or how do I feel physically after I've
Speaker 1: lost this weight? Not both? But more importantly, how do
Speaker 1: you feel as a football player? Because I want you
Speaker 1: to come and play, come down, or you know what,
Speaker 1: just do's do one year? Just do. Let's just take
Speaker 1: it one year at a time. Fox will wait for you.
Speaker 1: Wwe you could still do that, Yeah, Paul, I tell
Speaker 1: my daughters, and my daughters, by the way, know exactly
Speaker 1: who Rob Gronkowski is. I told my daughter Rob Gronkowski
Speaker 1: coming out of retirement to play for the Bucks. My
Speaker 1: young daughter mallis is he still gonna host crash leads
Speaker 1: because he's really funny. Probably he's going to be able
Speaker 1: to do that as well. All right, what's the poll question?
Speaker 1: We're going with mcloven and are you guys okay with
Speaker 1: the Gronkin Ears T shirt because I've already I've already
Speaker 1: put it up there on the website and they're sleeveless too. Yeah, Todd,
Speaker 1: you gotta love that. I love I love the Sun's
Speaker 1: out guns at with DP logo that it's got everything
Speaker 1: you want. The colors of the Bucks. That's great, Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 1: McLevin so I put up Are the Bucks the favorite
Speaker 1: in the NFC? Say yes? Does it still bother you?
Speaker 1: I know you about that band one? Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: thank I'm slowing my role here. They're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: There's some more things that have to happen here A
Speaker 1: little bit all right. One hour in the books, two
Speaker 1: more to go. We'll dive into the draft and Nick
Speaker 1: Saban will join us in an hour Dan Patrick Show.