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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: Ian never told you protection, iheartraed you, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of half Hour. As always, drink responsibly, listen responsibly,

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Speaker 1: do everything responsibly if you choose to do any of

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Speaker 1: those things. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. What are you

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Speaker 1: sitting on, Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I am drinking bubbly water once again? This time we

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Speaker 2: so my partner works events and sometimes from those events

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Speaker 2: he gets like extras that are left behind by talent,

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Speaker 2: and they left behind watermelon flavor bubbly pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Oh nice?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that might be a new flavor I'll have

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Speaker 3: to venture out.

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Speaker 1: To, especially if your pineapple goes away. Still very sad, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm sad for you.

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Speaker 3: What about you?

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Speaker 1: I am sitting on a light beer that shall remain nameless.

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Speaker 1: But it is interesting because in this happy hour I

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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to talk about our recent experience recording

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Speaker 1: the audiobook, but also kind of some like queer updates

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Speaker 1: with me because it's a Pride Month happy hour. But

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Speaker 1: like I don't normally have beer on hand, mostly because

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Speaker 1: I walked to the store and it's heavy to carry,

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Speaker 1: so I don't normally have it, but we had such

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Speaker 1: a busy, stressful week recording this audio book that a

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Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Katie, who's been on the show,

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Speaker 1: dropped off my favorite light beer outside of my door.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm too tired to do anything. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: It was very kind, so I'm enjoying that. But it's

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Speaker 1: also funny that you mentioned kind of the bubbly water

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Speaker 1: because a past sponsor, not current sponsor, I don't believe hints,

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Speaker 1: sent us a ridiculous amount of product to be frank.

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Speaker 3: Very generous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay this sorry, Yes, but Samantha and I, as

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Speaker 1: we've talked about, we were so nervous about recording this

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Speaker 1: audiobook and we were so lucky. And I'm going to

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Speaker 1: talk about it more in a second. I'm sure Samantha

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Speaker 1: you have thoughts about it too, but we were so

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Speaker 1: lucky with the team we had, who were both women,

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Speaker 1: were very kind and held our hands. We were clearly panicking, yes,

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Speaker 1: but Alisha, So the team was Alicia and Mala. Alicia,

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Speaker 1: who was sort of like the voice in our ear,

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Speaker 1: making sure we got everything corrects that we were hitting,

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Speaker 1: like the emotional notes are just being clear. She sent

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Speaker 1: out this advice beforehand, and it was like, where's stuff

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Speaker 1: that doesn't rustle and eat a green apple? Green apple

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Speaker 1: is a good snack and hydrate including the day before.

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Speaker 1: So Samantha and I took it very seriously. So the

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Speaker 1: weekend before, I was like, I'm staying in and I'm

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Speaker 1: drinking water, and that's right. But then I showed up

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Speaker 1: each day and you made fun of me, and everyone

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Speaker 1: made fun of me because I came in with this

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Speaker 1: bag of hit water.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it wasn't because you came in with a bag,

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Speaker 2: and we're talking. There were four to five bottles. There

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Speaker 2: was more than water, Okay, five and then there was

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Speaker 2: like four maybe it was like three to four headwaters

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Speaker 1: I went through them all though.

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Speaker 3: I know you did. It was quite funny. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you know they have water and items here.

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Speaker 1: Right, it was. It was pretty hilarious because I came

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Speaker 2: It and you're struggling at the door to keep it open,

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Speaker 3: To be fair, the door.

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Speaker 2: Was complicated because he had it locked and you had

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Speaker 2: But still you was like, what is wrong with her?

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Speaker 1: I took the instructions very seriously and never said to

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Speaker 1: of these bottles. Yeah again currently not a sponsor. I

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Speaker 2: found that you are actually allergic to all tea's.

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Speaker 1: Uh, something that is going on. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's an allergy, but something definitely happens to me after

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Speaker 3: It's not fun at the most inopportunity moment.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but I did want to talk about our

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Speaker 1: All of that happening. So I'm kind of discombobulated, to

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Speaker 2: You had to actually do a recording by yourself last week,

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Speaker 2: which many listeners may have already heard because I was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll be fine. Let's we'll do it after this and

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Speaker 2: I came in. I was like, I can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. I'm sorry, and You're like, oh God,

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Speaker 2: I've got it. And I felt bad because you'd already

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was such an odd experience. And so

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and it So we did one day together

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Speaker 1: which is odd, but it was yeah, like you said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, I went and grabbed her for lunch. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and you were recording because I live very close to

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so I was like, yeah, I'll definitely come

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Speaker 1: I would eat, just like just abortions are so huge.

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Speaker 2: Well, also you don't eat a lot of lunch. You're

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Speaker 2: also stressed out and you're trying to like kind of

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Speaker 2: gain your composure back for the next read. So that

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Speaker 2: I was like, actually, I'm just going home. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I love that, you said. Though, Yeah, yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: it was. It was nice. But one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: host Bridgett and Emily would rent a studio to record together,

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Speaker 1: I think it's like drawing too much attention to things

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Speaker 3: So it could have gone that way, it could have easily.

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Speaker 1: And it didn't, and I'm glad. I mean, one would

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Speaker 2: You never know, uh, I mean, we definitely when we

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Speaker 3: We had to like, we can't do that.

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Speaker 2: This is a feminist book doing you know, like literally

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Speaker 1: It is all involved. It will be better to just

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