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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls, money

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Speaker 1: is ty Hildenbrand, that fine gentleman over there. They'll won

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Speaker 1: the only still the incomparable Dan Rubinstein, Oh, Mainties.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Captain Tye. It's good to be back on deck.

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Speaker 2: On deck is that where we are? We're are we

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Speaker 2: for no real reason other than it is Broctober and

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Speaker 1: Why not we are recording this very thematically on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: You said, that sounds right, but you can get all

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Speaker 2: That's true. I think the last time last time I

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Speaker 2: But now I think what's best for the sport and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm not taking a hard line on this one.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Speaking of games on campus, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Cool, cool, guys.

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Speaker 2: I always appreciate these really old stadiums having design wrinkles

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Speaker 2: And where USC's run defense is at the moment, and

431
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: where their own offensive line is at the moment. And

432
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: Jordan Addison was beat up in the Utah game as well.

433
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: It's worrisome that they're going to be so reliant on

434
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams essentially putting the whole thing on his back

435
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 2: and saying I'm going to will us to victory every

436
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: single play. And they've run the ball really well. Troy

437
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: Die has been very good, has good burst, and the

438
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: offensive line has actually opened up a number of really

439
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: quality lanes for him. But it is still, once again

440
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: every week, Caleb Williams is going to have to look

441
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Speaker 2: like a Heisman caliber quarterback if he's merely good, if

442
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: he's merely okay, if he's merely pretty good, merely decent

443
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 2: USC against good teams b A, UCLA, maybe less so

444
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: against Notre Dame with how they've looked on offense, and

445
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: certainly Oregon if they meet them in the Pac twelve

446
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: championship game, is going to have a lot lot of

447
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: issues still win, but they're going to need like the

448
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 2: four turnovers that their secondary has been generating most weeks

449
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: to do so. And so really good place because they

450
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: have one of the best handful of quarterbacks in the

451
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: country who at any given time can make just an

452
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: absolutely bonker's play. But that's the concern right now with

453
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: their ability to hunt the top of the conference.

454
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Speaker 1: So you're in on USC, but only based on star power.

455
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Speaker 1: If they're going to hunt down Organ, it's based on

456
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Speaker 1: star power. For me, that's too much of a wing

457
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Speaker 1: in a prayer. I like this USC team I think

458
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: this USC team is really good. I can't turn a

459
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Speaker 1: blind eye to all the red eye see yeah to

460
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Speaker 1: all speaking of red October Cardinal, Yeah, I can't turn

461
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Speaker 1: a blind eye to all of the red that I

462
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Speaker 1: see when I look at the numbers for USC's run

463
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Speaker 1: defense and I look at some of the teams coming

464
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Speaker 1: up here, right, I'm not so much worried about Arizona

465
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Speaker 1: this weekend, or cow or Colorado. But UCLA I can

466
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: run it. Notre Dame thinks they can run it. That's

467
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: part of the problem, right, nobody's really clued them in

468
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: yet that they're not great at doing that. But they're

469
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Speaker 1: trying to do more of it. And certainly if they

470
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Speaker 1: get to Oregon, if all goes well and they get

471
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Speaker 1: to that PAC twelve Championship game, Oregon's a team that. Look,

472
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: we saw it this past weekend. Oregon can run it too.

473
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Speaker 1: That will be put to the test for USC. I

474
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Speaker 1: think star power can get them to that game against Oregon,

475
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Speaker 1: But in terms of truly hunting them down, tracking them down,

476
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: overcoming the ducks, for me, it's a bridge too far

477
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: for me. For me, we're crashing into the bottom of

478
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: the sea here. Man. That run defense is not where

479
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: it needs to be.

480
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 2: They are also a pretty poor special teams program at

481
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: the moment in terms of hidden yards. If the defense

482
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: is going to give up a lot on the ground.

483
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: The ninety fifth most efficient punt team, the ninety ninth

484
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: most efficient kickoff team, the ninety fifth most efficient kick

485
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: return team, they return punts pretty well. That's the issue

486
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: to me that, yeah, teams can tilt field position against

487
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: the Trojans as well. Now you're right, though Ty, in

488
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: terms of this schedule, Ucla is the only true danger,

489
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: is it not?

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

491
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Speaker 2: I mean Arizona doesn't have a defense, Kyle doesn't have

492
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Speaker 2: an offense, Colorado doesn't have anything, and Notre Dame has

493
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: struggled to move the ball against better teams. So right now,

494
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: as you're just circling Ucla, Yeah good, All.

495
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Speaker 1: Right, let's move on. Let's search the high seas here.

496
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: Who do you want to hunt with? Next?

497
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Speaker 1: I want to hunt with Oklahoma State, Dan Okay, Oklahoma

498
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: meating team. Oklahoma State is fascinating. Oklahoma State in its

499
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: remaining five games has the following at Kansas State at

500
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Speaker 1: Kansas home against Iowa State on the road for the

501
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Speaker 1: Bedlam game against Oklahoma and then they close out their

502
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Speaker 1: season at home against West Virginia. Part of the intrigue

503
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Speaker 1: with the Big Twelve this year is even the quote

504
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: unquote bottom dweller, West Virginia is dangerous enough that they're

505
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: only a seven point dog this coming week against the

506
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: top team in the conference TCU. There's a lot of

507
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: parody from top to bottom between TCU and I guess

508
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: West Virginia. By default, they would be the worst team

509
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: in the conference. So please, Dan, yeah, tell me why

510
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: at this late stage of the season Oklahoma State still

511
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: has what it takes to track down TCU.

512
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: Is West Virginia the worst team in the conference, by

513
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: the way.

514
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if you look at the

515
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: pure numbers and if you look at the actual on

516
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: field activities from to week, West Virginia seems to be

517
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: the team that shoots itself in the foot the most,

518
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: maybe outside of Iowa State, and the lows I think

519
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: for West Virginia are lower than nearly anybody else in

520
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve.

521
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: Iowa State is you get to win a Big Twelve game.

522
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 2: It's the only reason I say yeah. The defense has

523
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: been very good for Iowa State, but the offense hasn't

524
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: been good. Oklahoma State is a fascinating team because of

525
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: the experience. They have a quarterback, because of the upside,

526
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: they have a receiver because of how well for most

527
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: of the time Spencer Sanders has been protected the secret

528
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: sauce for Oklahoma State with as much attention as receivers

529
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: have gotten because Casey Dunn has been such a good

530
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: receivers coach and now obviously he's the coordinator, has been

531
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: how well they've run the ball. When Oklahoma State is

532
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: truly operating on offense, it's because Kendall Hunter's there many

533
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: moons ago. It's because Chuba Hubbard's there as that constant

534
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: home run threat. They haven't had that this year, and

535
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: when they don't have that lights out defense, and the

536
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: defense hasn't been atrocious, but they haven't been amazing. Right,

537
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: You can pick on the linebackers and now beat up

538
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: along the line. They just they allow too many of

539
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: those big plays. And so that's the problem right now

540
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: with Oklahoma State and feeling good about them because they

541
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: don't have the tiebreaker excuse me against TCU to just

542
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: you can pop them. No lead is safe. When Oklahoma

543
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: State is up as we've seen, and they have a

544
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: tough time climbing back if a team is especially aggressive

545
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: on offense, so offensively they're in an okay place. I

546
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: still don't think they have like that clear number one guy.

547
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: We see a couple guys on this team that have

548
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: that potential. But I just it's another team where star

549
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: power with Spencer Sanders and now he's beat up as well,

550
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: nagging I think shoulder injury. They're like, man, how can

551
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: he really will them to a Big twelve championship. I

552
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: have my doubts because of what everything looks like around

553
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: him that he doesn't have the play action game, because

554
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: of the lack of run game, because they're beat up

555
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: on defense and allowing just way too much on defense,

556
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: and they're not even a good change like I call

557
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: it a chain gang team right that their average third

558
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: down distance is not good, their success right on third

559
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: down is not good, and they just they struggle to

560
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: wear down teams, which is why when they're up twenty

561
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: eight to seven, twenty one to three or whatever, the

562
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: offense hand leave the field pretty quickly. And so that

563
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: is that is worrisome to me about Oklahoma State. But

564
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: all things considered, that they're in this position pretty good.

565
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 1: The reason that I am I think a little bit

566
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: more bullish on Oklahoma State is as follows.

567
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I picked them to win the conference preseason.

568
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: By the way, The reason for me is, I am

569
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: not totally sold on TCU.

570
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Man. Okay, TCU has.

571
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: Been really good, really good. I'm gonna pick TCU over

572
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: West Virginia this week and what I think could actually

573
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: be a tough game. But TCU's remaining schedule is is

574
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: of interest to me. Frankly, there are teams on here

575
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: that I could see them losing two. I could see

576
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: them losing to lose twice twice. Yeah, what I'm saying

577
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: is I could see it. I could see them losing

578
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: a shootout to Texas Tech. I could see them losing

579
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: a shootout to Texas. I could see them losing a

580
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: weird game on the road at Baylor a week before

581
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: I was to close out the year. I could even

582
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: see a weird circumstance against Iowa State where Iowa State

583
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: just plays good defense. So forgive me if I am

584
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: not fully in on TCU at this point. What they've

585
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: done to date has been nothing short of incredible. I

586
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: love what the TCU's story has amounted to thus far

587
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: through the first eight weeks of the college football season.

588
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that there are still ammo in

589
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: this schedule and the conference as a whole. Again, I

590
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: keep saying this word. There is so much parody there

591
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: that truly it's like it's got an acc quality to

592
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: it where we don't even remember who's played whom at

593
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: this point, they just all kind of feel the same.

594
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Anybody can beat anybody from week to week, and TCU

595
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: has to try and navigate those watchers.

596
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: Good tie back, TI, thank you, You're not wrong. And

597
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: I think was Oklahoma stayed up pretty big on TCU

598
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: early on? Was that the twenty four to seven, Yeah,

599
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: twenty one seven, twenty four to seven situation. Here's the

600
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: thing though about TCU, and you've said this about your

601
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: own family. You're the tallest person in your family, are

602
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: you not correct? That's correct, but it's not especially close.

603
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: You're a head taller than most to have family, a.

604
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Full head and still not that tall.

605
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, by society standards, are you a

606
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: towering person? No? So, I think at this point, if

607
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: you're looking at TCU's weakness it's starting games against decent

608
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: teams slowly. As you know. They go down twenty eight

609
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: to ten against Kansas State and they need to claw back,

610
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: and that's not really a sustainable way of winning a

611
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: conference or going undefeated. They need to lose twice. And

612
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: they have the clear most explosive, over the course of

613
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: four quarters impressive offense right now, all due respect to

614
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: what Texas is ceiling is they have the most explosive

615
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: offense in this conference. So to me, I'm more confident

616
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: in TCU at this point to win the Big Twelve

617
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: than anybody else because they don't have that glaring weakness

618
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: across the board that some of these teams seem to.

619
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: So I actually I think the TCU ship is getting

620
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: smaller in the distance as Oklahoma State tries to hunt.

621
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Speaker 1: How about that, dah, I'm looking out over the horizon here.

622
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

623
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Speaker 1: Do I see Michigan? Do I see Ohio State? Do

624
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: I see a rerun of last season? Do I see

625
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: a rerun of last season whereby Michigan Ohio State square

626
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: off in this monster rivalry game and Michigan again takes

627
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: it to them. Michigan again gets the monkey off their

628
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: back for the second straight year and knocks off Ryan

629
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Day and Ohio.

630
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Speaker 2: Well, the monkey's off the back. You can't knock something

631
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: there that's not there, something off that's not there.

632
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: The Ohio State monkey is off the back. Yeah, certainly

633
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: the playoff monkey, the championship monkey is still there. For

634
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. The most important thing though, is beating Ohio State.

635
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: They did it last year. Can they do it again?

636
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: That is always the standard by which they grade out

637
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: their seasons. What did we do against Ohio State? In

638
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: terms of remaining schedule for Michigan, Michigan State, Rutgers, Nebraska,

639
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Illinois a week before Ohio State. Maybe that'll be weird

640
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: for some reason because Illinois shays defense. But I don't

641
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: know if I'd count on that. Obviously, they close out

642
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: the season on the road this year in the shoe.

643
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Tell me why you think despite all the narrative about

644
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: Ohio State being the best offense in the country, all

645
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: of the narrative coming from me that Ohio State is

646
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: bound to win the national championship in twenty twenty two,

647
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: Tell me why you think Michigan hunts down Ohio State.

648
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: The way Michigan plays offense is so specifically such a

649
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: pain in the ass to play against that. Look, you

650
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: root for Penn State. You watched every second of that game.

651
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 2: You came away from that game thinking, well, that did

652
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: not seem like a fun sixty minute stretch of football

653
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: for the Penn State defense, a talented Penn State defense

654
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: that's performed otherwise pretty well. You saw what Michigan did

655
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: to them, punishing them, stringing together eleven play, thirteen play whatever,

656
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: however many play drives, and so if that is the

657
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: team best built to keep the Ohio State offense on

658
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: the sideline, that's a tricky proposition. Now, they don't look

659
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: terribly different on offense than what they look like last year, right,

660
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: Michigan has struggled at times to be consistently strong and

661
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: aggressive downfield. They were with Kate McNamara. They have been

662
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: against the better teams on their schedule with JJ McCarthy.

663
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: Hasn't mattered because they've separated themselves from those teams because

664
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: of what Blake Korum and the offensive line and Donovan

665
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 2: Edwards and then popping some play action to Roman Wilson

666
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: and Ronnie Bell and the two really good tight ends.

667
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: They've been very successful with a very specific strategy, And

668
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: so we saw Iowa's defense, and I don't think Michigan's

669
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: defense is quite what Iowa's defense is right now, but

670
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: we saw them do such a good job in that zone,

671
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: keeping the Ohio State offense in front of them. The

672
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: concern for me is the concern that everybody had before

673
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: the season. Michigan is going to have a very very

674
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: good defense. Do they have those rush ends that terrify

675
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: coordinators and terrify quarterbacks the night before, the week before,

676
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: the month before, How do we deal with Ojabo and Hutchinson?

677
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: They haven't. The havoc rate along that defensive line for

678
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: Michigan has not been incredible in the way that it

679
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: was last year. And that's the pairing, right that's you

680
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: go to the Michigan restaurant. Here's the entre, here's the wine.

681
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: That's the pairing. You know, the ability to control the

682
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: ball on offense and the line of scrimmage on offense

683
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: against the better Ohio State defense this year, and then

684
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: those guys that you have to account for and dex

685
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Hill in the back obviously not there anymore. And it's

686
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: the star power lack thereof a very good Michigan defense

687
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: that to me, is where the hunt becomes a little

688
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: bit more complicated. And so that's the reason why I struggle.

689
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: The reason for is easy because of the offensive strategy

690
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: and a sound defense, and the confidence in knowing that

691
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys were on the field in

692
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: this team last year, no very recent success against Ohio State.

693
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: That to me is the difference. That Michigan is very,

694
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: very good, but to put it together in that complete

695
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: a way, that's a challenge with the star power of

696
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

697
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean keep this in mind about the Michigan team,

698
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: and I think your point is really a valid one.

699
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: It's sort of the same strategy as a year ago,

700
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: going to Jji even more pronounced. It's like it's like

701
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one plus right, going to JJ McCarthy has

702
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: certainly unlocked something of the playbook. Right, they can do

703
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: more with him because of his mobility than they could

704
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: with Kate McNamara. But they're still basically running the same thing.

705
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: What we saw against Penn State was a masterclass that

706
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: worked beautifully. Penn State ran third. If you don't count

707
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: the kneel down to go into half, Penn State only

708
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: ran thirteen plays. The entire first half. They had the

709
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: ball for five six minutes out of the first thirty.

710
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: That is the way that Michigan wants to play. If

711
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: Michigan can play in that dominant a fashion, they clearly

712
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: will have a leg up on nearly everybody that they play,

713
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: whether it's Ohio State or Penn State or anybody else.

714
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: That's not to say they're going to have the same

715
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: level of success when they go to Columbus. I don't

716
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: think that they will. I think they are proving here

717
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: week in and week out that they can maintain that

718
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: same level of efficiency, that same offense that they ran

719
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: from a year ago against pretty much everybody they that

720
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: we've seen so far, and that's a pretty good case study.

721
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: The interesting thing with Michigan the answer I want to

722
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: see on the back half of this schedule, it's really

723
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: probably only going to come against and they which good

724
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: defenses do they have left? They have Illinois, Illinois, to

725
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: a lesser extent, Rutgers. Is there a third team with

726
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: at least a decent defense left on their schedule? I

727
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: guess Ohio State, but yes, obviously Ohio State. But until

728
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State, those are the two defenses that here's what

729
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to see first and

730
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: goal from the seven touchdown, first and goal from the

731
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: four touchdown, first and goal from the five touchdown like

732
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Eventually. What they were not able to do

733
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: against Penn State early on on, what they were not

734
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: able to do against Iowa is turn those goal to

735
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: go situations into touchdowns. Yeah, basically every time. And so

736
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: in the way that was it. You don't win friends

737
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: with salads from the Simpsons movie. I think it's the

738
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Tom Fournelle. You don't win games with field goals. You

739
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: don't win games with field goals. You don't win games.

740
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: So as good as Jake Moody is, Jake Moody's not

741
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: beating Ohio States. That's the little wrinkle that I want

742
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 2: to see pushed into overgear overgear. No that overdrive, over drive.

743
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: Do boat submarine is going to overdrive? Probably? Yeah, they

744
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: have to. That's that next step that I want to

745
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: see from Michigan because otherwise I'm a big believer in

746
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: the Maze and Blue. But you're not beating Ohio State

747
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: twelve to ten this year.

748
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: You're just not. Why don't we go over to Let's

749
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: see what's on this side. If I look to the right,

750
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: here is that is that starboard? I don't know what

751
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: which side is which here, Dan.

752
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: I think port is left and starboard as starboard is right.

753
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking starboard. We're looking at wake Forest. Wake Forest.

754
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: Wake Forest is trying to track down Clemson. Now they

755
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: had to run at Clemson.

756
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: But they've already lost. They've already lost that game, so

757
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: that they need Clemson to lose twice.

758
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: We're talking about hunting them down though, hunting them down.

759
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: Wake Forest has Louisville this week, They've got a road

760
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: tilt at NC State. They all square off against UNC

761
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: against Syracusan against Duke. I said it on the recap show.

762
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: But those five remaining games, of all the teams that

763
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: we're discussing here, you know, we can talk about Oklahoma State.

764
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State is a fascinating team with interesting games to play,

765
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: for sure, But wake Forest to me has some of

766
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: the highest quality, most entertaining football ahead of it. In

767
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: those five teams again, Louisville, n C State, un City,

768
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: Syracuseen Duke, five teams that are very different, five teams

769
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: that maybe outside of NC State can really score if

770
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: they need to and five teams that are just you know,

771
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: they have their own story to tell, let's say in

772
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.

773
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: I like that that.

774
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: Makes them very interesting. It's true. I mean all of

775
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: them come at this thing from a very very different perspective.

776
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Wake Forest, to me, remains the team as they were

777
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: last year that I have trouble taking. Seriously, Okay, I

778
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: don't know why that is. That's definitely more of a

779
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: me thing than of them thing. But there was this

780
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: narrative last year that all wake Forest does is play

781
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: really high level offense and they can't play any defense.

782
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: And then we've seen them go up against good teams

783
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: and other teams have trouble stopping Wake Forest. And so

784
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: that's not to say that there's a defense there that

785
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm not giving them credit for, Like they still don't

786
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: really play defense, but I think the offense is so good.

787
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: I think they are a fully formed product on offense

788
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: in a way that I did not give them credit

789
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: for for a good long time. I'm slowly starting to

790
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: see the light with wake Forest. If you tell me

791
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: Wake Forest is a top fifteen team, now I'll believe you.

792
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: But I have a hard time believing they're going to

793
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: track down Clemson the.

794
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: Remainder of their schedule. The balance of their schedule is

795
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of very specific set of skins, skills programs.

796
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Liam Neeson take in type programs right that, like Duke

797
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: is not a killer team but decent, but they don't

798
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: do anything terrifically well. The very specific skill is taking

799
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: advantage of down teams and having a productive quarterback, a

800
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: promising young productive quarterback and Riley Leonard and c State

801
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: doesn't have the offense, especially not without Devin Leary, but

802
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: an incredible front seven, So they're very specific set of

803
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: skills is on defense. That's the most challenging defense. With

804
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: Syracuse right behind them. Syracuse has its own issues on

805
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: offense and the consistency thereof North Carolina has defensive issues.

806
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: It's a fascinating balance of their schedule the remainder of

807
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: their schedule. But the thing is it's all gravy for

808
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: Wake Forest. So yes, they're hunt for Clemson. Is difficult

809
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: because they need two losses from Clemson, but because Wake

810
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: is in this place where find receivers run a very

811
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: difficult system to play against. It's highly efficient. Put up

812
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: forty plus points was the final score of the Clemson

813
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: game in overtime, something like fifty one to forty five. Yep, Yep,

814
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: it's they, it's them, it's them, it's them. Whatever. Wake Forest,

815
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: it's the deakeends that everybody should be scared of. They've

816
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: got three strong receivers, by the way, if you I

817
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: mean at Perry is the big name, but Jamal Banks

818
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: was the guy who is especially strong against Clemson. He

819
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: might be the most dependable of the three. They're more

820
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: of a problem than the teams left on their schedule.

821
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Drake May is probably the best quarterback, or the quarterback

822
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: with the highest ceiling. Sam Hartman's excellent, though.

823
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

824
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: So I feel great about wake Forest because they are

825
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: so sure of themselves in their style that even if

826
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: they don't catch Clemson, which I think is going to

827
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: be difficult, they're gonna win a ton of games. They're

828
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: just they know their weaknesses. They can scheme around their

829
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: own weaknesses in ways that I don't think other teams

830
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: are self aware. I'm in on wake I think they're

831
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 2: gonna have a very strong end to their season.

832
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Louisville and Miami is really what Clemson has left in conference.

833
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: They've got the Notre Dame game, which isn't going to

834
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: count for the standings. They've got South Carolina, which is,

835
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, their rivalry to close out the season. So

836
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: it's getting late, awfully early here, and provided there aren't

837
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: some sort of weird fireworks at home no less against

838
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: both Louisville and Miami, it seems sort of a foregone

839
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: conclusion that it's going to be Clemson going through from

840
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: that side of the conference. But I don't know. I'm

841
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: interested in seeing Wake. As I said at the top here, Yeah,

842
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: I do believe, if nothing more, it will be very

843
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: entertaining football these final five games for the Demon Deacons.

844
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it also makes me want to put a little

845
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: bit more respect on Clemson's name. How Wake and Syracuse

846
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: have played this year. These are not nothing wins. The

847
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: bottom of the ACC is shockingly awful. Yeah, like the

848
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: bottom of the ACC is very bad. But I still

849
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: am a big believer in what Syracuse has been able

850
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: to do in closing out games and what Wake has

851
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: been able to do this year in a conference with

852
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: a lot of upevil Wake is is that kind of

853
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: sure thing. Let's go over to what do we see

854
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: we have Tennessee left vall Navy red.

855
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: I see Orange.

856
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

857
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee has its own Navy's that's true, have their own navy,

858
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: literally the fall Navy. Very thematic here. Tennessee's got to

859
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 1: get over the hump with Georgia. Tennessee wants to track

860
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: down Georgia. What does Tennessee need to do to track

861
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: down Georgia? And more importantly, how has your level of

862
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: confidence that they will be able to beat Georgia when

863
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: they play in two weeks as compared to wherever you

864
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: were at the start of the season, Because it's changed

865
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: a lot for me.

866
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: They need an elixir to get healthier at corner because

867
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: they are down their top three dudes who started the season.

868
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: I believe at this point they need Cedric Tillman to

869
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: get back by the way I did see Jalen Hyatt,

870
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: as Tennessee tries to chase down Georgia has now entered

871
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: into Heisman Odds conversations. Yeah, I don't know if you

872
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: saw that I did. That's pretty good, especially when you

873
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: will not be able to find a sportswriter who covers

874
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: the SEC who is just has too much of an

875
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: urge to say Jalen hi will be the best receiver

876
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: on his own I don't know why they all sound

877
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: like Greg McElroy, but they do. In my head. Jalen

878
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: Hyatt at this point is the best receivers on his

879
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: own team because he's the only receiver to do what

880
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: he did against Alabama. If the best ability is availability,

881
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: Hopefully Cedric Tillman gets healthier. Hopefully they get a little

882
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: bit healthier in the secondary. But that to me is

883
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: the issue with Tennessee. The plus with Tennessee on that

884
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: hunt is one, haven't played Georgia yet. Okay, that's pretty

885
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: good because we talk about these teams that need somebody

886
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: to lose twice because they already have lost the tiebreaker

887
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: for their hunt. Haven't played Georgia yet. George is going

888
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: to be coming off of the Florida game, if I'm

889
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: not mistaken, when they do squear off, and Tennessee has

890
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: arguably the most dangerous passing attack in America with Hendon Hooker,

891
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: and so the hunt is very real, but they themselves

892
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: are probably going to need to win that game. I

893
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to go, you know, back and

894
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: forth like it did against Alabama. And I don't think

895
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: George's defense is especially upfront where they were last year,

896
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: or beat up whatever to beat this year's Georgia team.

897
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: How many points is Tennessee going to need to score

898
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: in that game? Thirty one?

899
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least at least.

900
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: Scoring thirty one against Georgia this year. It's not easy.

901
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: I don't care who your quarterback is, I don't care

902
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: how healthy your guys are. On both sides of the ball.

903
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: That is a tall ask. So Tennessee has never been

904
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: this close in the hunt for Red Broctober as they hunt,

905
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: you know, the Georgia tight end. It's very difficult to

906
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: deal with. But at the same time, there is something

907
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: about Georgia with their lack of obvious weaponry at receiver

908
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: right that they're relying on guys out of the backfield.

909
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: They're relying on an incredible tight end. But in terms

910
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: of guys who can take the top off of a defense,

911
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: Tennessee has the clear advantage there, especially if Cedric Tillman

912
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: is healthy. And so that to me is the interesting

913
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: quotion that if it does get into that space, Alabama

914
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 2: is better built than Georgia is to respond in kind,

915
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: and Georgia can dictate Georgia probably will dictate for a

916
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: good chunk of that game. But man, when you have

917
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: that explosive ability and the balance that Tennessee has, they

918
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: can pop plays on the ground as well. I think

919
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: their neck and neck I really do. And where's that game?

920
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: By the way, is Tennessee Georgia game?

921
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: The game is in Georgia.

922
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: That's a lot. It's a lot. And you still give

923
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: the advantage to Georgia because of what they've done lately

924
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: and the fact that it's in Athens. But neck and

925
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: neck right there, absolutely, who does Tennessee finish with? Otherwise,

926
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: Tennessee's remaining schedule, you got South Carolina left, South Carolina

927
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: left on the road after Georgia. It's missoo South Carolina

928
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: and Vandy. So really the big one, the big one

929
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: staring them in the face is that Georgia game. They've

930
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: got Kentucky at home this week, which we're going to talk.

931
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: About in our preview show. I think could be a

932
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: sneaky matchup HM for the balls in a look ahead

933
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: spot there. But the Georgia. The Georgia game is interesting

934
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: to me for a couple of reasons. I do think

935
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: the way and everything you say about Georgia and not

936
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: having obvious weaponry and potentially getting into a bit of

937
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: a shootout. Like, I think all of that stuff is

938
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: very very valid. I also think the way that Georgia plays, though,

939
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: is very advantageous against a team like Tennessee. Tennessee's a

940
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: quick strike offense. That's how they build themselves, that's how

941
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: they've been very successful. Obviously, that's how they beat Alabama.

942
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: George is a slower team. You know, Georgia only has

943
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: about eleven drives per game, okay, and they are very

944
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: efficient whenever they have the football. They're not an explosive team,

945
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: at least not by our metrics. It's not the way

946
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: that this team is built. But they're just very good

947
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: at taking their drives and getting the most out of them. Sure,

948
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: they're very good on third downs. They're not going three

949
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: and outs and not shooting themselves in the foot. They're

950
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: just very good at the small things. And I think

951
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: against a team like Tennessee, if you're able to play

952
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: that slower style of football, and especially if you're able

953
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: to get the most out of your drives when you

954
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: have the football, that's kryptonite for a team like Tennessee.

955
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Because Tennessee is going to go up against the Georgia defense.

956
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: It's going to stop them here and there, at least

957
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: not to stop him every time, but they're going to

958
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: stop him enough that if you're able to give the

959
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: ball back to your offense drain the clock. That type

960
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: of formula almost a Michigan formula like we saw against

961
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: Penn State. Frankly, if you're able to play that style

962
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: of football against Tennessee, I think that's a tough ask,

963
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: tough ask for the balls to win. At present, I

964
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: think that's about a seven point line in favor of Georgia.

965
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: The game are in Tennessee would be a different story.

966
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: But I think the game being in Georgia, I think

967
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about a seven point line. I'd be very

968
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: curious as we get into talking about that one week, ten,

969
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: two weeks from now, where we stand. Where we stand.

970
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: I think we'll learn a little bit after the Kentucky matchup.

971
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: I think we'll learn a little bit after the Florida matchup.

972
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: For both these teams, we'll certainly know a lot by December.

973
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: We'll know everything by December.

974
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: The actual really interesting data point for Tennessee is as

975
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: our perceptions of LSU have grown in spect what Tennessee

976
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: did in baton Rouge on the road, yeah, makes me

977
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: feel especially good about Tennessee's ability in Athens. That bat

978
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: Roue is a difficult place to play, that LSU team

979
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: is good. Now, look, we're all dealing with injuries at

980
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: various points of the season. I myself have a heating

981
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: pad on my back right now. But the data point

982
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: of Tennessee going to LSU and absolutely demolishing them like

983
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: they did, I think speaks to the mindset of the

984
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: Tennessee players, the Tennessee coaching staff that they can lock

985
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: in in a big spot on the road, which God,

986
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: it's been twenty three years or something since you could

987
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 2: say that about a Tennessee team consistently. So I feel

988
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: good about Tennessee. I'm not confident, but I feel good.

989
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: I also would say, and I don't know if this

990
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: is a real thing, but you've seen it happen where

991
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: you've got the team that comes in, the high flying,

992
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: quick scoring, explosive offense comes in against a team with

993
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: a really solid dem hm and they score points right away,

994
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: they jump out early, and then it's the monkey is

995
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: on the Georgia trying to figure out how Clemson has

996
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: been in this situation even this season, where they got

997
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to come back into it

998
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: and kind of normalize things out and get back to

999
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: level and find a way to pull ahead in the

1000
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: third and fourth quarters. It would not surprise me if

1001
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: that Georgia Tennessee game took on that trajectory because I'm

1002
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: looking at the offenses that Georgia has played thus far

1003
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: this season. I'm not seeing a whole lot here that

1004
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: knocks me over a right. Sorry, South Carolina, Kent State, Missou, Auburn, Vanderbilt,

1005
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: this week Florida, but there's not a whole lot there

1006
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: that rises to the level of Tennessee. That's not to

1007
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: say Tennessee's gonna be Georgia, but it is to say

1008
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: that far and away the best team that George's played

1009
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: all year is going to be in Week ten, and

1010
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: there could be a little bit of a culture shock there.

1011
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: It's not.

1012
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two has been a weird college football season,

1013
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: and it seems like some of the teams at the top,

1014
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Though Bill Connolly would say that the gap has not

1015
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: narrowed between the lead and the rest of the bunch.

1016
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: It does feel like some of those teams at the

1017
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: top we saw it with Alabama are a little bit

1018
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: more vulnerable. So it wouldn't surprise me if this game

1019
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: takes on a very very odd feel of right out

1020
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: of the shoot with a quick strike offense like Tennessee.

1021
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that, while

1022
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: you say Georgia has not played anybody, they did beat

1023
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: a current top ten team by and week won though, Dan,

1024
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: that just comes out in the wild, I know. I'm

1025
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: just saying it's a team I root for. I watched

1026
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: that game. It's an entirety it happened. I think you,

1027
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: of all people, would want to forget that game ever existed.

1028
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm just I love a good Tie hilden Brant counterpoint.

1029
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying that they are a little bit tested.

1030
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: Obviously it's been a minute since that game happened. But no,

1031
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: they haven't played a team as talented and a team

1032
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: that has looked as good as Oregon has since the trademark.

1033
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: Ti hilden Brant counterpoint. That always leaves out one major point.

1034
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: That's one major that's okay good. I'm very good at

1035
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: doing that.

1036
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: You just like. So they beat Maszoo, big deal? All right?

1037
00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: Game here?

1038
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: Yes, I see a green wave coming. I hope it's not.

1039
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: Ominous nautically themed to close it out. I love it.

1040
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 1: I hope it's not ominous. Dan, let's talk about too Lane.

1041
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: What does Tulane need to do to get in the hunt?

1042
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: They already are, Yeah, track down whatever it is. They're

1043
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: trying to track down a conference championship.

1044
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So they have another seafaring ish nickname team coming

1045
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 2: up after the bye week, and that is Tulsa Golden Hurricane.

1046
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: They have UCF, they have SMU both at home, and

1047
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: they finish at Cincinnati, so they can continue the hunt

1048
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: until the final regular season game of the season. They've

1049
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: been very good upfront against the run. Michael Pratt has

1050
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: been very good throwing the ball. They're just a well

1051
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: coached team, especially on defense. They're efficient, they prevent big plays.

1052
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: The quarterbacks left on their schedule, there's no obvious I mean,

1053
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: depending on how much you respect Tanner Mordecai, but John

1054
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 2: Rice Plumbley, Ben Bryant, Ben Brian's been good. But they

1055
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: don't have that exceptional talent. Who is going to put

1056
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: Tulse's excuse me put Tulane's defense in a dangerous bind.

1057
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: So I feel good about them. They are tested in

1058
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: the teams that they've played and beaten, you know, beating Houston,

1059
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: beating ECU looks better and better only holding, only allowing

1060
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: ECU to square. I believe it was nine points as

1061
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: I look at the schedule in front of me, Kansas

1062
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: State to ten points, like this defense gets it done.

1063
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: And so I think their neck and neck. I think

1064
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: they're riding alongside each other on the tynamic Dan Goose exercise.

1065
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm ready for Tulane appearing in a game

1066
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day.

1067
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: It bothers me to no end that there is not

1068
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 1: a receiver on this team named Whitney. I would love

1069
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: to do Pratt and Whitney. I would love to go

1070
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: with some sort of engineering themed nickname, but we can't

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Speaker 1: do it well.

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Speaker 2: I don't even understand that. At first, I thought you

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Speaker 2: were talking about the Hills with if you know your

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Speaker 2: Pratt know you know, don't worry about that's an engineering reference.

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Speaker 1: An engineering reference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Twu Lane's very good and I'd like to

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Speaker 2: see Tulane pop more on offense to give themselves a

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Speaker 2: bit more of a cushion. But Michael Pratt has been

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Speaker 2: pretty careful with the ball. It's just the running game

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Speaker 2: has not been there, and I think if they can

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Speaker 2: get going on the ground a little bit more, that'll

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Speaker 2: give them that cushion. But as as we've all seen,

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Speaker 2: Willie Fritz wins games, not every year, but he's a

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Speaker 2: season coach. I thought that was a good hire. I'm

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Speaker 2: in on the green. I have a two lane shirt

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Speaker 2: somewhere around here. Yeah, I'm in on them all right.

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Speaker 1: Very impressive here, write in let us know what we missed.

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Speaker 1: That really does help. Yeah, I agree, Dan, this has

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Speaker 1: been fun. It's been fun to get back out there

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Speaker 1: on the high seas. I agree, it's been fun to

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Speaker 1: take this voyage with you. We will be doing our

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Speaker 1: week nine Picks podcast tomorrow. For that guy over there,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, the Captain Dan Rubnstein. For myself,

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Speaker 1: the high Seas with us. We'll talk to y'all soon.

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Speaker 2: Stay soft, peace,