WEBVTT - Hough is Enough

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<v Speaker 1>Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we ready for an awesome show? Oh yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>just love the Oh yeah. It's like like not excited

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<v Speaker 1>at all. You're like, I'm so excited, and I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my excited voice. Um, well, we're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>you to to get a little bit more excited. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, it's it's an animation, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta like, we gotta be excited about this because

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, and I need that. I need a

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<v Speaker 1>little I like I need a I'm so excited. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so much better. Okay. How do you deal with confrontation?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I deal with confrontation? It depends. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to I don't mind. I don't shy away from confrontation.

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<v Speaker 1>You're actually really good with confrontation. I try to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to sit back and wait a minute, because

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<v Speaker 1>my initial reaction kind of like what Chelsea said last week,

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<v Speaker 1>is to kind of go. But I try to wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute and breathe. But I don't shy away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to another podcast earlier, and um, they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about confrontation. And I know I've said before

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<v Speaker 1>like I would rather move to a different country than

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<v Speaker 1>I have conversation. But I was thinking about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that was very like twenties Joanna, where

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like thirties, late thirties Joanna is UM like

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<v Speaker 1>I like and I don't like it. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>like i'd like confrontation, but I because I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do something the other day where I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to puke um with a semi confrontation, and I

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<v Speaker 1>normally would have just been like, no, like it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like when you get older, that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is just like what it has to happen. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you've gotten better at it, for sure. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to. I think it depends on the

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<v Speaker 1>situation obviously, but how you're going to handle it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as you get older, you realize to handle

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<v Speaker 1>it more as an adult and think through what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say and not just spout off and just and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've done a good job with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just thinking about that because I'm like, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to hate confrontation, and now it's I'm too old to

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<v Speaker 1>have to play the games anymore, you know. Um. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of confrontation, not not confrontation, but I was I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We had like a girl's night a few days ago

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<v Speaker 1>and Pamelan was like she basically said that I am

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<v Speaker 1>Valume Janna, Vale value you, and Valium is so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was like, post divorce Janna is Valume Janna.

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<v Speaker 1>And just a little backstory. When I got my boobs done,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that gave me a little, like a

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<v Speaker 1>little comfort because my chest was so tight and so

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<v Speaker 1>the valume just like made me relax a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the muscles, but it made me loopy as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was so loopy, but I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like we went over to our house for Easter and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like three days post boob job, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just strutting over there with like my PJ tap and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a skirt, and they were like something like

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<v Speaker 1>Jolie was playing. I was like, Okay, it's fine, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal. It's not a bad thing. But generally you

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of the get in, kind of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first to leave. Not a bad way, not in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad way, but like the kids have something to do,

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<v Speaker 1>it's dinner time, it's bedtime, it's it's something maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want to be there or that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>say it's something you just don't know. But there that day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you got up for a second and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, are you leaving? And You're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. That's like what I'm like, No, I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna go check out the cheese spread. But

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<v Speaker 1>apparently is that me post divorce now? Yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about this the other day when we were

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<v Speaker 1>in where were we were in Virginia And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't taken a volume since day nine of Boop Jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>So like it's just mean, it's not that you're just

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<v Speaker 1>on yeah, um when we're in Virginia beach, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>just so much lighter, so much lighter. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, Like yeah different, I mean you're still Janna,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, it's kind of like your like them

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. You mean, like when I broke out

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<v Speaker 1>in a dance party, yes, it was great, but just

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<v Speaker 1>in general, like we had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>stressful situation, not knowing if we were gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get home or not because of Ida, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were coming up with all the options and even I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the devil was broad a lady. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>get me home. I was like, it's just a little

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little sprinkle, and it's like but amongst that,

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<v Speaker 1>you were still so light. Yeah. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Sudya want me to do this? And

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<v Speaker 1>You're like anyway, you were just you were much lighter. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Valium Janice fun I mean, I have a natural value

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<v Speaker 1>in me. Now, hey, I'm really excited because we have

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<v Speaker 1>Derrek Kuff coming on the show. He has a new

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<v Speaker 1>show that he's debuting in Vegas called The No Limits

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<v Speaker 1>Tour at the Venetian Um, which I'm excited to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him about. Also, he is UM. He's he's partnered

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<v Speaker 1>with m P and because they're sponsoring UM basically to

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<v Speaker 1>help people make a difference for people with disabilities. They're

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<v Speaker 1>actually even donating hundred thousand dollars to the Agatos Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>to help drive even more equality in sports and beyond

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<v Speaker 1>for people's disabilities. So I love that. Excited talked to

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<v Speaker 1>him about it UM and then talk a little Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars. So, uh, let's stay a break and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get him on. Hello, Derek, how are you ladies?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing you guys? Good? Um? Good? How are you? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very good. I feel like it's been it's been it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a minute since I've seen you. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>came back to Stars of one of the times. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're just like you're up there judge and

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<v Speaker 1>doing your doing your thing, you know which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been so nervous if you were the judge.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what, yeah, because I mean, i mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Lenn is terrifying, and you know your sister she was,

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<v Speaker 1>she was she was sweet. She was hard on me,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was sweet. And then carry in like just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Ball and then Bruno like so fun. So

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<v Speaker 1>but like with you, I would have been I actually

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<v Speaker 1>am kind of happy that you were. You weren't a judge,

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<v Speaker 1>you were just one of the dancing pros because like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like, I mean, you're really nice,

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<v Speaker 1>but also you're an amazing dancer. So it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been very intimidated. Let's say, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I'm sure it would have been great. You were fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure I would have nothing about great things

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<v Speaker 1>to say, So I mean, you're so sweet. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you like being on that side of the things,

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<v Speaker 1>at the table rather than on the dance floor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. It's it's definitely a lot easier, that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Um. It's always crashing up and people say

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<v Speaker 1>what's harder, judging or dancing? Like what I was like, Um, dancing,

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<v Speaker 1>of course is harder. But no, I really enjoyed I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being on the show for seventeen seasons. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like I really I did that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I was. There's all different

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<v Speaker 1>experiences and triumphs and failures and all the things I

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<v Speaker 1>could have possibly thought of. Um, And so being on

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<v Speaker 1>this side of it, Uh, my desire is I really

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<v Speaker 1>really genuinely want to like help and give some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of critique that is helpful. However, I will say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot harder. You know, when I was judging on

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<v Speaker 1>a World of Dance, um, which by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved that show so good. Oh me too, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>me too. And it was so it was tape so

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<v Speaker 1>we could like ramble on and we could just go

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<v Speaker 1>off and just go on and on and on and on. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you forgot to say something. Hold on, let

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<v Speaker 1>me say something. Were fast, Whereas on Tanta the Stars

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<v Speaker 1>is live and it's like you know, once you once

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<v Speaker 1>the time is up, like that's it, Like you have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to say. So there's times like Bruno will like

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<v Speaker 1>go on one of his rants and and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>time left. So it's like Derek of like, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good job, it was great. I don't know, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>a lot um but uh but but obviously being a

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<v Speaker 1>coach and have been a teacher, you know, I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to like give an actual note that I really

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<v Speaker 1>believe will like help elevate them the next week, not

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<v Speaker 1>just generalize it and be like, yeah, it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be better, you know. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>work on this specific specific thing, focused on this this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really feel like it will elevate um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your routine the next week. And so yeah, I try,

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<v Speaker 1>I try as I can in the short amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time I have. Especially this season is Lenn Goodman's back,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was before of us up there sould

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting. Is there one celebrity that you were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like is not disappointed him, but in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a roundabout way, like I wish you could have like

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<v Speaker 1>they would have been so good if they just let go,

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean, I'm sure that's probably a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but is there one that you're like, they had such

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<v Speaker 1>potential but kind of got in their own way? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, honestly, I feel like, I don't know. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough. I definitely looked back at my my approach

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, like in my earlier seasons, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nervous, you know, and I was uncertain. I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like kind of faking it to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you. You know. I wasn't really like a

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<v Speaker 1>teacher or things like that, or choreographer, you know when

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<v Speaker 1>people used to say like, oh yeah, a good chroographer,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never even looked at myself in that way. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that made me fearful and afraid, so that I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely would get uh more frustrated, easier in my earlier

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<v Speaker 1>seasons and stuff. So for me, it's not so much

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<v Speaker 1>I look back at one of my partners like I

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<v Speaker 1>wish they would have just let go. I look back

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<v Speaker 1>an some my earlier seasons thinking like, man, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I knew then what I know now and what I

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<v Speaker 1>what I how I shifted my sort of approach and

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<v Speaker 1>teaching and coaching, um, and I probably could have got

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<v Speaker 1>more out of them with a better teaching approach, which

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<v Speaker 1>I eventually you know, learned and created and um. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not so much on them more of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I was better early on and I could

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<v Speaker 1>have given them a better chance and a better experience.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. I also feel like to um, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>such a good thing in general with life because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I can look back and be like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I would have you know, had more fun, or

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have you know, done this differently,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's not regrets. It's just something that okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now like you can when you met with a different um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing doing the show now, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>have different ways to look at it. Because I mean, shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to go back and redo that season

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<v Speaker 1>because of all the things that I like, help back

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<v Speaker 1>on or wish that I didn't wasn't so in my

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<v Speaker 1>head about or just believed in myself a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's just like a something we do

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<v Speaker 1>and just in life too. Sure, Yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think with when Uh, it's different for you as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, at least for me, I go have

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<v Speaker 1>multiple seasons to make adjustments and I have I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>back the next season or the next season, and I'm like, wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to be better in this situation. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to appreciate this more. I'm gonna try to, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, strategized differently. And and so I can see how,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being on the show as a celebrity and

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<v Speaker 1>having one season, you might think like I want another

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<v Speaker 1>go at that, Like I on one another round, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give me another round, and um, but you were you

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<v Speaker 1>were awesome, You're fantastic and like and they still and

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<v Speaker 1>they still bring up it's like one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>classic moments. They still bring up that rain shower. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's like that's up there in the top in the

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<v Speaker 1>top realms of like that happened, and that happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, that was that was a very sexy dance.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and I'm like, there was just a few

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<v Speaker 1>things in that dance. I'm like, I can't believe they

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<v Speaker 1>heard that, Like when it says give me a taste

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<v Speaker 1>and he literally listening me up in my like his

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<v Speaker 1>faces in my vagina. I'm like that he wanted more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. It started off even crazier. I know. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys come up with some like raunchy choreography, dre Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie, that's that's that's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>glob thing. I'm not. It's a Russian thing. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>Russian the Yeah, I'm just I was. I wasn't too runchy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was even like when I did a

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<v Speaker 1>rum business stuff like that. For me personally, my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the banks of love, um my approach usually was somebody

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<v Speaker 1>danced with like Sean Johnson or something like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>So for me it was more like it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet love not at Grayla. Yeah. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely went fifty on that one. Okay, speaking of okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right um with speaking of love though, So you've

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<v Speaker 1>been dating how many years? Because you guys started dating

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<v Speaker 1>when on my season? Right, like so four five years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Six years now? Yeah a minute, okay, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>have to like I have to ask where, like when's

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<v Speaker 1>when's the ring coming? Like when when are we getting when?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I was hurt. I'd be like, Derek, what

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<v Speaker 1>the like it's sixty years? No, seriously though, I mean like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, girls, and she wants a baby and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we don't get any younger. And I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to rush you, but six years, it's like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck are like what are you waiting for? Like after

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<v Speaker 1>six years? Like you should know? Right? Sure? Absolutely absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I think um and I think so for so what

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you know and when people don't see obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>are you know? Is the relationship you know? Is? Is?

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<v Speaker 1>Are the different um what do you want to call it?

0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Um phases if you will, the phases, different things, seasons

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<v Speaker 1>and relationship, all these different things. And so even though

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<v Speaker 1>we've been together for six years, like like, we've had

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<v Speaker 1>multiple relationships with each other, you know, Esther Parrell, she

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<v Speaker 1>says that she hasn't great she's my she's my girl, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's phenomenal. And one thing that she says,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, you know, there's you might have. Everybody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have multiple relationships in their lifetime. The question is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be with the same person or is it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be other people? And I feel that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like our relationship has been We've had our

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is vastly We've gone through like four different versions

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<v Speaker 1>of our relationship over those years. And it's and I

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<v Speaker 1>will say for sure now like it is like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this past couple of years, it's been like this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is it? You know? And so um yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes when it comes to the everything else

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<v Speaker 1>that comes around that, but you know it, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see he can't he can't say it, but he has

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. I know it. He has a thing out

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<v Speaker 1>and he can't look at I can tell. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell, I can tell. I'm a girl. I

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<v Speaker 1>totally conduct. It's all right. And by the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it's funny actually is that people like like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>does that just said? And I'm like no, honestly, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it doesn't bother me at all when people ask

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<v Speaker 1>or that. And I don't feel pressured at all, like

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<v Speaker 1>hearing it a lot. It's it's has she pressured you

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<v Speaker 1>at all? No? No, not at all, not at all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all of and uh. We have our little

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<v Speaker 1>family of you know, of dogs and cats, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's wonderful and and you know, to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you as well, you know, I built a house

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<v Speaker 1>and we've been enough for about a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half maybe two years now. Um, but before that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like living with my sister like it was

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<v Speaker 1>you know why it was it was you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>was there was no sort of like um foundation or

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that wasn't even on that that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even in the conversation because there's no way for it

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<v Speaker 1>to be. So uh yeah, all good things. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>happy and she's doing and what's great too is that

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be dancing with me on my show in Vegas. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was just gonna ask you about if

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to be on the road with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys done that before, like been on the

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<v Speaker 1>road together when we met. That's how we met was

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<v Speaker 1>on tour. We met on tour. Actually our first kiss

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<v Speaker 1>was on stage during a dance, during a rumba um

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<v Speaker 1>and in front of a whole audience. And actually we

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<v Speaker 1>had that footage and it's kind of funny, we actually

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<v Speaker 1>recreated that same dance like a couple of months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually on our YouTube channel and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>put him side by side. And um, so yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>actually met on too. Uh, but this is different. This

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<v Speaker 1>is very very different obviously. Um, and yeah, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. We've been practicing, we've been you know well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it was so funny too, is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were staying in a life where you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could go on tour and be away from each other

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<v Speaker 1>for months at a time and it was totally normal.

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<v Speaker 1>As a performer, You're like, yeah, cool, Like we haven't

0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.439
<v Speaker 1>seen each other in two months, that's fine, normal, And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm in the time of my life. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't want to be away

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<v Speaker 1>from you for longer than you know, a week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I needed a trip in Washington for the

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<v Speaker 1>Candy Honors, and I was gone for a week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, let's not do that. Let's not

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<v Speaker 1>do that anymore, like, let's let's travel with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Was do with each other as much as we can,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that. I feel like after two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>is when it starts to get there, starts to be

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of that tension or that the drift,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I think it's important to to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nurture that relationship and to be like hey, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a week for you guys like that, it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it doesn't I don't like this. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>good that you said that. Quarantine helped a lot because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, we uh just really just

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<v Speaker 1>we just we just you know, fell more in love.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was good. Okay, So the residency, You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to Vegas, the Venetian Um. What what's different about this show? Um? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the biggest difference for me at least is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in one place because I'm just as touring, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's always like wake up, different venue, different stage, um,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love. By the way, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>tour again. I love touring. But what's exciting about this

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<v Speaker 1>one is it's again it's like live band, live music.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the most incredible dancers, all start cast dancers.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, one of the dancers I've just hired he

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<v Speaker 1>won the last season of Dancing with the Sorry of

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<v Speaker 1>World of Dance with two other girls called MDC three

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<v Speaker 1>and he is mind blowing. So um, it's it's an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible cast. Honestly, I feel like it's I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say the best dance show in Vegas. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mean I'm gonna I'm gonna go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>say that, man, because I I really believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>just the performance and these dancers and what we will.

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<v Speaker 1>We have, the content we have, the costumes are amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful fool and uh, it's gonna be good. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're the most awarded choreographer. I mean you have.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's insane. So if if I was

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<v Speaker 1>to put a lineup, like, yeah, I would, I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be like, Yep, that's the show I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go see. I mean, the chippen Dales is kind of exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, like, I'm sure you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take your shirt off with the ladies too, So

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<v Speaker 1>like there might be a few flashes, a few things

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<v Speaker 1>here and there, is there is there one? Um like

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<v Speaker 1>how long have you been even like prepping this? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>originally I was supposed to be in Vegas last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously promis reasons. Um, so it's been on my

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<v Speaker 1>mind for over a year. Uh. But it's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>you know you think, like, oh, we got all this

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<v Speaker 1>time in the world and um, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden you're like, Oh, we're going to rehearse on

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<v Speaker 1>the stage in three days, which is true. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on stage on Monday, on the stage rehearsing for it. Um. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm it's it's been there for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about it. It's it's gonna be good. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will say there's there's also that excitement of like

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like and I am, I is my body ready

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.639
<v Speaker 1>for this rehearsing And I'm like, I'm like, you know,

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like not oiling it up like externally internally, you know,

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 1>all my joints of the things, like there will be

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<v Speaker 1>some oil maybe maybe. I'm sure the girls will appreciate

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that slipping off, slipping off my body while we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to dance. Um. But yeah, it's gonna be good. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I'm so excited for you. I think that's. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna check out the dates and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to come to a show because we're actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in Vegas in September, but I think you

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<v Speaker 1>don't start until it's October. Is that when it starts

0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:48.840
<v Speaker 1>September two, September two until November one, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, flying back and forth doing yance with stars

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and the show and they'll be fun. Man, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good. You're taking over the world. What is your

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>best now that I'm back out in the dating world,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your best of dating advice for me? My

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 1>best advice? Oh goodness, Oh boy, you know me, and

0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you know we've spent time together, and I see, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how I want to say this. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to, you don't I actually, I actually was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say this because I think it's different for you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I guess I don't know necessarily like the history

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. But I always say, um, you know, my

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 1>friend was like a he's like a serial data. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like going to compare here there and nothing

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>really stuck, and I just almost I said, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of be like to come be on your

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<v Speaker 1>own for a minute, you know, um, get just get

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<v Speaker 1>the appetite, you know, for the for the main course,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, um. Because he was kind of having

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>these little appetizing relationships, you know, where it was like okay,

0:21:57.840 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>but and so you were kind of you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you eat kind of like you know, you kind of

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>have you're almost like not ready for the main course

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>because you've already like over appetized essentially too many chips.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, let's go. Oh, I'm salivating right now by

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the bad so bad. So that that was just something

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I said to him actually, um a while ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, and it seemed to it seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a helpful advice. And my problem is is I I

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<v Speaker 1>skipped the appetizer, of course, and I go straight to

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the main dish because I want the main dish. But yeah, no,

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 1>but that's good. I need to eat more of the

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<v Speaker 1>spinach deaf and then and then cut into my steak.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm really freaking hungry. You've been shooting a movie

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<v Speaker 1>with Marie Minos, right, I am obsessed with her. Yeah,

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>we bet she is like incredible. Um yeah, we just

0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>we wrapped it about a month ago, and she played

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.160
<v Speaker 1>my best friend in the movie. And I just saw

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>an edit of the film and it's she does so

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.639
<v Speaker 1>like she's so good in it. So I love her.

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>She's she's just been uh such a just blessing, you know,

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>in my life and in so many people's lives and

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>she's she's a forest man. She's got incredible energy. So

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you guys. I saw you guys together and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, hey, I know I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>That made me happy to see you have what's what's

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:27.359
<v Speaker 1>the equal to podcast? Equals to podcast? So it's a

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a six part series UM that you can find

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>on any different you know podcast UH platforms UM that

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:37.959
<v Speaker 1>focuses on UM. You know, paralympians and Paralympics and you know,

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>people with equal rights for you know, people with disabilities

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.479
<v Speaker 1>and UM. The reason why I got so interested in

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that UM is because, uh, I danced with Amy Pretty.

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>You know Amy Pretty, who was a paralympian. She had

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>too prosthetic legs and we you know, I was actually

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 1>teaching her in Sochi, Russia, while she was competing in

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. I was teaching her and chat out of

0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the morning and then she would go compete. I was

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 1>it was, I was like, are you sure we don't

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 1>need to do this right now? You have to focus

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>on what you're doing, and she was like, no, I

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. So for me, I always found it so UM.

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>It was so inspiring. Obviously and I just she's such

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>an incredible woman, and she really embodied that expression, UM,

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>what if? What if life isn't happening to you, it's

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>happening for you? You know, we're always like why did

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 1>this happen to me? Why always met instead of like, well,

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>why did this happen for me? How can I turn

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>this into a gift? How can I turn this into

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 1>something that is going to you know, serve others as well?

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>And she really really embodies that. So this podcast is

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>all about, you know, celebrating telling stories and also talking

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>about you know, conversations that um are just kind of

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>normalizing and also educating people in that in that world

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>with people with disabilities. So that you're doing that, that's awesome, Derek.

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>You're incredible and I appreciate you, and I can't wait

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 1>to see your show in Vegas and hopefully i'll see you.

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll pop by maybe for a taping. If they are

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>they going to have uh audience members, I don't. I

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know yet. They haven't told us. And then I'm like,

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping I want to know too, you know, I

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's like you have to like that was

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the part that made me the most nervous, but it

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>also gave me the most energy too. Like I know

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>people at home we're watching, but it's just something about

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>having people watching there. I don't know, whole different elements.

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Last season, we didn't have an audience, and I was

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:33.120
<v Speaker 1>concerned that the energy wouldn't be there. But between the crew, camera,

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>other competitors, everybody kind of like compensated for that. They

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>were like extra loud, and it just it felt pretty good.

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.120
<v Speaker 1>It felt like the energy was there. But listen, I

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm going to Vegas. That's why I love

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>going towards There's nothing like that, uh, performer audience relationship.

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just that, like it's an amazing experience to share

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>with one another. So I love it all right, Derek,

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>go up, go go dance away. Thank you so much.

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting something that he said in there

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>was life isn't you know? It's not happening to you,

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it's for you. And I was reading I've been reading

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>this book called The Surrender Experiment, and it's so great.

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>He was basically saying, like how he just surrendered his

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>life to the moment and he wanted It's silly um scenario,

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's it's about like having gratitude and

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>being positive. But he's like, it's raining. You know, it's raining,

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and most of it like I can go through it's

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>raining or whatever, and it's like, okay, it's raining, Like

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>this is so beautiful, it's going to help my grass,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>or like what can I do inside today that I

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>would normally not be able to do, or like I'm

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna watch a movie or so it's just like finding

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the positive for in this. Okay, why is this happening

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>not to me but for me? I love that it's

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>so good, And I think that's sometimes easy in the

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>smaller things, but hard and the bigger things, I mean

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>so hard. That's why last weekend when I was like

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>bawling my eyes out, because it's like, you know, you

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>have those moments where you're just like, I get that

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not happening to me, it's for me. But at

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's not easy. In the silence that

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>can't be I mean, that's not easy. So you just

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>have to take it one day at a time. But

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I told you in the car today

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>because we were having a conversation and I was talking

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 1>to her about you know, um, a few conversations about Mike,

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and you said, which part, like, your guys are really good? Oh? Yes, yes,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been impressed y'all. Are it seemed to be really

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>good getting along? We call parenting. Well, yeah, we're we're

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>co parenting, you know. Well, and um, you know we

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 1>have conversations every once in a while. And she's like,

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you said you were proud of me. Oh, yes, I'm

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>so proud of you. I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't know.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of conversations in the car. Yes,

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of you. You've done a really, really,

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 1>really great job. I think you have. Oh I know

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>what we are to now, I remember. Anyways, Yes, I'm

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>very proud of you. You have done a good job,

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and you've put things aside, and I think you've just

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>decided to you know, it's more important to get along

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and be happy. And well, you know what I said,

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>as I said, um, what would the Kardashians do? Oh

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>my god, I love that because it's so true, because

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, you look at Tristan and Chloe

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and again this is the most probably stupidest example ever,

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but they just seem so forgiving. Yes, it's like once

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they're part of your family, always a part of their family. Yeah,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like Chloe. Yeah, like Scott Jeez, who are like somehow

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>still I just love Scott to sick. I don't know

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>why I like. I don't know. I don't like the

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>lot late, like the latest thing that he did, but

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. I still like them. But um, when

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it comes to you know, I just saw, like Chloe

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>interest in taking their little one to you know, gymnastics

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>or dance or whatever. And it's like to be able

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to look outside and say, Okay, did Mike hurt me? Yes?

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Did do I like what happened? No? Um do? I

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>still get upset and I'm sad, absolutely like I have

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>major cry facets in my house when it's silent, and

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm also trying to flip the switch. Okay, how

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>is this not happening for me? It's not happening to me,

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>even though it feels like it is. Um and I

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>still don't feel like I've gotten that one apology that

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I deserve. But at some point it's

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>just like you just have to let it go and

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>be like Okay, this energy like holding onto all this

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff is and I'm not going to get the milk

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>at home deep, or I'm not gonna get what I

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>want home deep, Like I keep going to home deep

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I and getting it. Like my therapist said, so it's

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>just so he come up comes to a point where

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you're just like okay, like it's you have to just

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>not move on, but just be like this is this

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is just who he is, and I there's no point

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in having this resentment, even though yes there are times

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>when I'm so upset and angry at the situation and

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>what happened, But at the end of the day, nothing

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>can change. We're not getting back together, and it's just

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>hurting you. Yeah, you know, you have to let it

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>go for you, not for him. You have to be

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>able to you know, it's not going to change how

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>he feels. It's not going to change anything other than

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>how you feel. So you know, now, that doesn't mean

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be hard at times. And maybe you're

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>not ready to go vacation like Scott and Courtney with

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the family, but that doesn't mean he can't get there

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>eventually or figure out what you're normal is. And I

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>think you know, and hopefully we're on the path because once,

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>because once I let it go, like okay, that I'm

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>never going to get the apology that I think I deserve,

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and also knowing that I can't change my reality, and

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>also knowing that it what what. His actions weren't directed

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>towards me, even though it felt very personal, and I'm

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm still angry that his actions lead to the divorce,

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, we are here

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and this is what it is. And now I'd rather

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>be friends with him than hate him. It's easier to

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>be friends with him than hate him, because hating him

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>just feels bad and it's just bad for you. Again,

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>it just comes back to it's just gonna eat you up,

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and what is it? What's it going to get you?

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to do what would Chloe do? Chloe

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>would go to So I'm like, you want to come

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to soccer with us? Come on, Like, let's just what's

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>best for the kids. What's best for the kids is

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that we get along. Maybe one day we have family stuff,

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Like he invited me to go to the movies with them,

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and I told you it was a little too soon.

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I left and I started crying and I was like Okay,

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that felt too family, Like, well, I think you have

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to protect yourself a little bit and take it a

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit at a time. Yeah, and it doesn't mean

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that you have to do what the Kardashians do. It

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>might not be that comfortable. I mean it's hopefully down

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the line, like I would love, you know, to be

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>really close with whoever he marries or whatever, and like

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I would like that, I genuinely would. Sure. Yeah, well

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that just takes time. I mean it's still yeah, but

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe I just yeah, I need to I need to

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>not rush into Let's just start with being nice to

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>each other. I have. I have been nice and I'm

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>just glad, which is great caught up to that. Yeah,

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll just be kind and take him day by day.

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:41.479
<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was kind of funny. I was like,

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>what would Chloe and Kim do because they just and Courtney,

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's true. Well, oh that's right that Courtney. But

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it's I think there's just something about forgiveness, and um, forgiving.

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Forgiveness isn't for the other person, It's for you exactly,

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>not to like hold onto it anymore. What else, Catherine,

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what I'm officially Cramer oh, yes, I

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>got an email from my business manager and he goes, hey,

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>your social Security number came in your officially Cramer again,

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna lie. I cried no because okay,

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna get heared. Um, I cried because my

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>kid's names, I'm not like, I'm like, those are my kids.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Like then it just felt so like separated, and I

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>fee like like that really sucked. Well, here's one way

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to help me. Look at it from a different name.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Wanted to keep Cramer, not because of not wanting to

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>take his last name, but just because obvious. You know,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you're known as Janna Kramer all that, so you had

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>thought about keeping that name. Anyway, it's easier to say

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to the Remember times i'd say cossin ce A U

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>S s as in Sam I am, They're like Coffin.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god. I literally just spent two

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>seconds spelling it up for you and then said Sam, Sam.

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't say Sam, I said Sam. But if you

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>would have kept it, then you would have had a

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>different last name as your kids, but it wouldn't have

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>felt that would have just been normal. But then since

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>then taking cosson, it's like okay, we were like this

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>family even though you know, I still went by Cramer

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and some things just because again it was easier. But

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I just think having like now having you know, the

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>new I D and it's saying what my license still

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>says Costin but now that I'm officially Cramer, I don't know.

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>It just it broke my heart, just for the kid aspect,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Like they're my kids, they should have my last name.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I burst them. I know that's such like a big debate. Yeah, no,

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I get it, but like I get the whole man like,

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, no, like I those are

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>that they came out of my my belly. How does

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>he get and I have them seventy percent the time

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>get the last name, because I mean, this is more

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just like a funny debate. But I have them seventy

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 1>percent in time. They came out of my vagina. Why

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>did we adopt the whole that they're named after the

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>dad's It just seems because they sperminate. I don't know,

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>like they come out of our bellies and we had

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<v Speaker 1>to hold them in be sick. So I'm with you

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<v Speaker 1>on that, Like it's not fair they should take the

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<v Speaker 1>woman's name. We can change them to Cramer. I guess look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like, hey, Joela Creamer, you should change

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<v Speaker 1>it when you're dude. That's gonna go. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that, just like really that really that

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<v Speaker 1>hit me kind of hard. But then also I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>but then after I cried, I was like, I'm Cramer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've always been Cramer. And then I cried again,

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<v Speaker 1>and then was this all today? No, it was yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>when Kevin, and then um, and then after that was

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<v Speaker 1>my I basically like, I never change my last name

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<v Speaker 1>ever again. No, please don't. I will never pain in

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<v Speaker 1>the butt. Yeah, I'm never going to do it again

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>because at this point it's like I'm already not my

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<v Speaker 1>kid's names, right right right, Sorry, future husband for many reasons. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go ahead and apologize now. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at times, no, Janna, I happen to talk bad about myself, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a second person? Is that second person? I am

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<v Speaker 1>a great wife? Yeah, you were a great wife. I

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>am a great wife. I wasn't. I was a great

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<v Speaker 1>wife to my ex. No, I wasn't perfect. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little passive at times. I had a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with trust in the cheating in the affairs. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, fair, fair, fair, I would have you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I'm a good wife. And to the

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<v Speaker 1>next person, I'm not saying sorry, I'm saying you're welcome. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome, Okay, because I am a catch. Okay, she's

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<v Speaker 1>malliam Janna. This is amazing through it part. I mean seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have a dance party and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, mother efforts. I am a catch, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am fun and I'm a good wife. And I

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<v Speaker 1>will rub your back and I will not make you

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<v Speaker 1>dinner because I don't know how, but I will try.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will get the beau a few dishes you

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<v Speaker 1>can do. I have a few. I'm a great side person.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean like sides like I would do great size,

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean great salads. Um And I'm funny and I

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>like to travel. I feel like I'm filling out my

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>dating profile right now. I'm funny. I like to travel.

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm very spontaneous. I like long walks on the beach.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I love a sunset. Um my faults where I can

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<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror and say, okay, I can be

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<v Speaker 1>a little passive. But I'm learning how to do that.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning how to not have you read my mind. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's impassive. We're passive aggressive. What's the difference? I me

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<v Speaker 1>not passive aggressive, so I'm not saying yeah, okay, kettle

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<v Speaker 1>black Wow did you say glass glass rock, like glass

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<v Speaker 1>house or whatever. I went to the door. Oh the door,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was that's since been shattered, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still picking up pieces of the pantry door fault. Yeah, Beth,

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>she grabbed the bat like. I saw people's comments like, oh,

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>go gather, and I was like, oh, should I take

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>credit for this or should I think it was not me? Um? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on to the fact that I'm a Cramer and

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are not here. We go. We're going to Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm super excited about for the Heart Festival. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wait to just get dressed up and have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And um then a gamble wan a gamble a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get fun, let's get let's just get like real

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<v Speaker 1>fun Valium jam in Vegas. By the way, again, I

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<v Speaker 1>do not promote valum um. This is this is just

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<v Speaker 1>a this is was a side effect of and I

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<v Speaker 1>was on my boot job that I took some By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm very happy about Stiff. You definitely seem like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that was a great episode and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to talk to you gus next week. Bye bye,