WEBVTT - DeAndre Houston-Carson on staying prepared to play | All Access Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome and everybody to Bears All Access. It's brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by IGS Energy with Tom Thayer. I'm Jeff Jonahak.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have the game Bears Packers Sunday on WBBM, starting

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<v Speaker 1>an amr pregame kickoff at noon. Thanks for producers Dan Barelli,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Truentip and the folks here at the score coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be joined by DeAndre Houston Carson. The veteran safety

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<v Speaker 1>and writer Ty Dunners authored a book it's called The

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<v Speaker 1>Blood and Guts How tight Ends Say Football. Substantial time

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike Ditkill will get into that first eighteen pages

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<v Speaker 1>of the book about coach and how tight end position

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<v Speaker 1>kind of revolved around him in the sixties and beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into that. But right now, big time,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking Bears Packers meeting two o six, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like Justin Fields and Aaron Rodgers will share the

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<v Speaker 1>field on Sunday. Well, definitely trending that way, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the crowd is excited both on a national scope

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFL and whomever is gonna be at Soldier

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<v Speaker 1>Field on Sunday, And I'm excited for myself. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see Justin get back on the field, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see him go out there play a high

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<v Speaker 1>profile opponent like the Green Bay Packers in the division

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<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Rodgers, and I hope this is super motivating

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<v Speaker 1>to the defense to make sure that they have to

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<v Speaker 1>be on their best and take care of business according

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<v Speaker 1>to what Aaron Rodgers offers them. But I think it

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<v Speaker 1>complicates the situation for the defensive coordinator of the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers because you have a formula of how you

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<v Speaker 1>want to play against Aaron Rodgers. There's net not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>a formula how you play against Justin Fields. And they

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<v Speaker 1>just played against Jalen Hurts who put up a big

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<v Speaker 1>rushing number against them. Joe Berry's under attack up there.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. The three sixty three is a crazy number.

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<v Speaker 1>It has happened before, but it just seems weird to

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<v Speaker 1>keep here in that number, that three hundred and sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you watched the tape of how the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>played it, there were a lot of runs that Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Hurts made that we've seen from Justin Fields. There's creases

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<v Speaker 1>that open up, there's green grass, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take it. You can't stop him from taking it if

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<v Speaker 1>he sees it. The invitations too great. Just get out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds, try to avoid the hit. That's one way.

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<v Speaker 1>But second, what did you think of the tackling of

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers Because I thought that defense heading into this

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<v Speaker 1>year was going to be really good. Obviously, Rashine Garry

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<v Speaker 1>out with an ACL takes away the pass pressure. But

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<v Speaker 1>are you a little surprised at what they've given up?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So, Jeff, I heard earlier on a broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about the importance in the role of David

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery and the running backs according to the Running Game,

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<v Speaker 1>which I still believe that is a super point of emphasis.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Jeff, when you look at hot do

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<v Speaker 1>you a tackle Jalen Hurts Hottia tackle justin fields? There

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<v Speaker 1>is no formula because these guys can have a two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half to four yard separation and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to hit them. So to say, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to have this term for playing Barry Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, and they said, oh man, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta fire. You gotta fire when you go to tackle

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Sanders. There you can't because he's gonna you miss

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<v Speaker 1>in space. The great Gael stairs. If you try to

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<v Speaker 1>fire on him, you're gonna miss in space. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing with Justin. You better be able to have

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<v Speaker 1>a condensed area in multiple bodies around him to slow

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<v Speaker 1>him down or escort him out of bounds. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>still not a guarantee because Justin is so fluid on

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<v Speaker 1>his feet that if there is that I talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>that separation of distance between him the nearest defender, he

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<v Speaker 1>can turn a four yard separation into a forty yard run.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a hesitation that kicks in then and now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit though, isn't it if you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>you're beat? Because if you're thinking how about how to

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<v Speaker 1>approach him instead of firing, your canon so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, that puts you in major conflict. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what you're suggesting here? It slows down a defense

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<v Speaker 1>because they got to think about how they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>attack him, right, It's probably more if you slow your reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>you're guaranteed you're gonna get beat. And that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about just firing and trying to make a tackle is

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<v Speaker 1>that you got to commit to it, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>hope that if you commit to him, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>slow him down or you make him take an alternate

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<v Speaker 1>direction that there's teammates near you that can help you

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<v Speaker 1>limit the success of the run. But you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up if you think you're beat,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you slow your reaction, you're guaranteed you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get beat. All right, Where are you in the risk

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<v Speaker 1>reward category with this, if at all? Because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>camp out there that says, hey, you know, why rush

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<v Speaker 1>him back? Why do this? Let him get some risk,

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<v Speaker 1>get the bye week, come back finished the final four.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take on all that? Football's a risk always,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're healthy or you have some type of in

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<v Speaker 1>some type of setback issue that he had when he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play against the Jets last week. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you give him a week to get his legs

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<v Speaker 1>back to the freshness that it was when this whole

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<v Speaker 1>journey started. That would scare me as much as anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's his left shoulder, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>be cognizant of that. I would try to put him

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<v Speaker 1>in a play calling position that he's not exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>getting pounded to his left side. And you can't guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>that because it's a reactionary sport. But I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and dwell on why he missed the game

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<v Speaker 1>last week as opposed to why he's playing this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And even from a personal standpoint, he's a twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>year old kid who is the future of the Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears as that's the case, and he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>face some of the greats of the game. Those days

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<v Speaker 1>are dwindling with Aaron Rodgers. So if you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>another crack at Aaron Rodgers, I say go take it

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<v Speaker 1>right as he is. You know, at home, you're in

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<v Speaker 1>control of the volume of the snapcout. You can have

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of formations now that Chase Claypool has been

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<v Speaker 1>more involved in the mix and they got some speedback

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<v Speaker 1>with Pringle, And then you think of where Cole Commet

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<v Speaker 1>is at from the first time they played Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>into where he's at right now. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different weaponry that you can use this goal around against

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers that you are still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out your formula the last time they played them.

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<v Speaker 1>Still a signific number of injuries obviously on this football

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<v Speaker 1>team and in the secondary. As if this show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not sure what the situation is in that regard, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a young secondary right now, A couple of three

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<v Speaker 1>year veterans and you got DeAndre Houston Carson back there.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are guys that, no question, Aaron Rodgers will

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<v Speaker 1>be zeroing in on. Yeah, you know, I don't look

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<v Speaker 1>for mental mistakes out of the defensive backfield because I

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<v Speaker 1>think guys like Jalen Johnson and DHC DeAndre Houston Carson

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<v Speaker 1>will get everybody in the right place and if someone

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<v Speaker 1>if there is a mistake that's being present, sometimes they

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<v Speaker 1>can make up for that. All Right, we're gonna step

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<v Speaker 1>away our first segment in the books as we get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to meet DeAndre Houston Carson here on Bears All Access.

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<v Speaker 1>here with DeAndre Houston Carson, our guest, Thank you've taken

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Thanks for having I know it's valuable time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as your pro man, you're a pro through

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<v Speaker 1>and through, and so your workday continues all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to who knows when, and it's not just about the

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<v Speaker 1>meetings and the practice, it's getting your body right and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your typical week like in terms of post

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<v Speaker 1>practice preparation for Sunday? Yeah, so post practice, obviously, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do some stuff to recover, getting the training

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<v Speaker 1>room and do some massage or whatnot. But I typically

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do all my film study when I'm when

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<v Speaker 1>i'm in the building. That way, when I go home.

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<v Speaker 1>I got two kids, my daughter she's almost three, of

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<v Speaker 1>my sons eight months, so there's not too much time

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<v Speaker 1>to be watching too much film when I get home,

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<v Speaker 1>so I try I do my work when I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>working that way, when I go home, I could just

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<v Speaker 1>be a dad. I always joke with it with the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that say me they see me leaving at five

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock with a coffee and he's shaking coffee. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to my real job, you know. I like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't care what I did to day, so that's typical.

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<v Speaker 1>And then once they go to sleep, I might watch

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<v Speaker 1>a little extra family spence some time my wife. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I watch a lot of tape too, certainly not as

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<v Speaker 1>much as a player, but that that pad is always

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<v Speaker 1>there calling your name, right, you know, and do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, God, maybe I should watch a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that happen a lot. It's like a magnet and

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<v Speaker 1>it does. It changed over the course of your career.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids aside, I mean, as a pro, how much tape

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<v Speaker 1>are you actually diving into? Arla Carya should tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't watch too much to night start

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<v Speaker 1>overthinking that that was his way? What's your way? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>That is a reality. You can watch too. You can

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<v Speaker 1>watch too much or get to start thinking too much

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I would say, you know, I try to

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<v Speaker 1>watch a lot of film in the morning times, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe an hour or so in the morning, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we're watching during the day, and then post practice

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<v Speaker 1>all in all, maybe another maybe another hour and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>so probably a day, you know, by myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two to probably two to three hours. Had it ever

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<v Speaker 1>burned you when you have looked into it too much? Yes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes you can get to guessing, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>think you know what they're gonna run based on their formations.

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<v Speaker 1>It can help you make a lot of players book.

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<v Speaker 1>It can burn you, you know, if you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run a slant. In the next team they run

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<v Speaker 1>a slant and goal or give a memory in your career,

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<v Speaker 1>even college where you know you're so glad you did

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<v Speaker 1>it because you know you saw it. It just came

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<v Speaker 1>to life and you made a big play. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>we were playing James Madis universally. Actually my senior year

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<v Speaker 1>is a big game Halloween. I think we won like

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<v Speaker 1>forty four to forty one, so we weren't stopping too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was one I knew. I just knew he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna run a slant and I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>post and U I mean, I just jumped the slant

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<v Speaker 1>and they ran a goal ball and just completely left

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<v Speaker 1>my corner out the dry. He dropped a touchdown. He

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<v Speaker 1>dropped it. So then the very next play they come

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<v Speaker 1>back and they run the slant and I picked I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up picking it off. So I was happy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what I'm saying. That's a that's a risk

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<v Speaker 1>in some reward, but um, yes I was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>happy on that one. DeAndre Houston Carson, our guest here,

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<v Speaker 1>on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. I love

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<v Speaker 1>how you laid out the day and then you're going

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<v Speaker 1>home to your your family, because I'm certain a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks don't think of it in terms that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you got a young team. While of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are not married, they don't have kids, they're rookies,

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<v Speaker 1>they're young guys in the locker room, they've seen you're

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<v Speaker 1>basically you're briefcase and it home to work after a

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<v Speaker 1>day at the office. Right You don't visualize that as

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<v Speaker 1>a football fan, you know, I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think it's just something different. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I kind of like it because you are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the senior members of this football team, as young

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<v Speaker 1>as it is. I don't think you played on a

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<v Speaker 1>younger team right in your seven years. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if anyone has played on a younger team right

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<v Speaker 1>right now in the second arry, I just counted up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's six rookies knock out woods. Some guys

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna come back who knows, but injured or otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>There's six rookies, two new guys just picked up a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago, two three year vets, in Villedoor, who's limited

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<v Speaker 1>as of this taping this week for practice, Jaylen and yourself. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be exciting an opportunity for a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had that experience one time. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>who we're playing, but we're when the kickoff holder before

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<v Speaker 1>the kickoff, and I'm looking around, it's like there's literally

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<v Speaker 1>seven rookies out here in the kicker. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>me and you know, two other guys who are Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have any you know, specialties? Yeah? Yeah. Do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you drive some energy from these guys because their wide eyed,

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<v Speaker 1>they're excited, this is their big chance. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure some of them don't feel like rookies anymore. That's

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<v Speaker 1>deep in the season. But how about that you do

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<v Speaker 1>drive some juice from that? Oh? Yeah, for sure. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys bring a lot of energy, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>always fun being around the rookies day. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>keep you young. It's funny saying that, right because you're

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<v Speaker 1>still a young guys exactly. You're a young guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the bigger picture for sure. DeAndre Houston Carson

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<v Speaker 1>our guest here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The

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<v Speaker 1>Score brought to you by IGS Energy. So I said

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<v Speaker 1>this on the TV show that we had on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>Night recap in your nine tackles. I know you're a

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<v Speaker 1>team first guy, but we have to individually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go through you know, highlights of the game and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, this is a guy and I said

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<v Speaker 1>this at the outset here, you're a professional. You just

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much trust and belief when you're on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what you're asked to do, how in frequent

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<v Speaker 1>or frequent you're asked to do it. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly be some of the most complimentary thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear as a player. Is it not even from

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<v Speaker 1>your coaches they speak the same way about you. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say so. Obviously you want to be someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>trustworthy in life in general. That's the way I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. And then football is just an extension of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just another aspect of life that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be trustworthy in and to be in. To be

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<v Speaker 1>completely frank, there's there's times where you know, I make

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes out there and I think it hurts me. Um

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<v Speaker 1>might hurt me a little bit more because I do

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<v Speaker 1>pride myself a lot in that, and I have a reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so then when I when I do make

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake, it's like I was, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make a mistakes. So I had a few in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, to be honest, that that I wasn't proud of,

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<v Speaker 1>but because it's just part of it, you know, learning

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<v Speaker 1>from learning from those as well. And frankly, you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a ton of defensive snaps this year. Is it is?

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<v Speaker 1>It takes some time to get comfortable out there. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to sound so, I mean that is something

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<v Speaker 1>that a couple of people have asked me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've played a lot of football, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>started or play, you know, a whole bunch on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you can really account for all

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<v Speaker 1>the accumulated reps over time practice, you know, preseason, all

0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.800
<v Speaker 1>those reps of playing football, watching a lot of tape,

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<v Speaker 1>seven years worth of tape. Um. So although you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having started a whole bunch, it doesn't feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to go in and get a groove or anything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this, you're one of the one of if

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first guy on the field every day. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why is this? Um? So really everyone likes doing extra work. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know I know myself, I'm I'm more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be inconsistent if I do it after after practice

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<v Speaker 1>every day. I might have a hard practice and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>tired and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna skip. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>skip the jugs today. So I just decided I started

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<v Speaker 1>doing it probably two years ago. I decided to start

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<v Speaker 1>doing all my extra work before practice. That way, I knew,

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<v Speaker 1>um two things. I knew I was gonna get that

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<v Speaker 1>extra work, and then I could I can direct call

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<v Speaker 1>one of my practice to go. You know, say you're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing pads, you might go a whole day you're wearing pads,

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<v Speaker 1>but you haven't you still don't hit, just because you

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<v Speaker 1>know the play didn't come. So then I go out

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<v Speaker 1>and do my tacles before. That way, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know I'm hitting. UM, So that that's really

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason. Um, I don't really do any reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Have others followed you, have others asked about especially these

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<v Speaker 1>young guys, and then they say, can we work with you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. Um. Before it was me and my boy

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<v Speaker 1>Dion Bush, we'd be out there, we'd be out there early. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of Jurkis asked me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just we're not just Wurkies but guys in general. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just explained that to him. And you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>guys try to come out early and stuff. I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>adjusted a little bit this year. Um, adjusted a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I still try to get out early, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a slave to it. I used to kind of be

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<v Speaker 1>a slave to it, where if I if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to do it, then I would just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>completely unprepared. Um. But now you know, it's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I'm not a slaved to that, to that ritual anymore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I still get out there early as much as I can,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've definitely adjusted as the years I'm talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>does it also signal to these younger guys? And again

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<v Speaker 1>Coach keeps talking about building a foundation, and he made

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<v Speaker 1>a point of the Coaches Show on Monday Night, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a rebuild. This is a building building. So

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<v Speaker 1>building something fresh from the foundation that that guys get

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<v Speaker 1>into a routine that they feel works for them. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be replicated. I mean, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing on Sundays, you know, ottawalle Guli. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to come in are in defensive end and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>take three showers before kickoff. I mean that that was

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<v Speaker 1>his route he had to he'd go out there getting

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<v Speaker 1>the shower. Yeah, I mean why, I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but it worked for him. Do you kind of counsel guys, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do what works for you? Um? I have I have. UM, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if they do ask me about my routine specifically, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to, you don't have to do this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but it is very important, I think to

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<v Speaker 1>have a consistent schedule. Um. So something that was told

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Um, you know kind of the pre draft

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<v Speaker 1>process is, you know, you want to kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing every day of the week. So like

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, I do the same thing every Monday. I

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<v Speaker 1>do the same things every Tuesday, Wednesdays. It's just stills

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<v Speaker 1>routine as far as you recovery your body. Also watching

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<v Speaker 1>the film. That way, you have less things to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just taking some of that mental energy away, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes exactly, I eat the same breakfast every morning. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to think about okay for breakfast, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not eating the same way how you eat the same breakfast?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you eat? Yeah, so typically I do two pancakes,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple pieces of bacon, three four piece of bacon,

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<v Speaker 1>and some eggs. Put some hot sauce on it, Sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't get boring? No, I mean sometimes it does. But

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<v Speaker 1>you are a man of routine. So I'm messing up

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<v Speaker 1>your vibe right now because you're ready to get home

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<v Speaker 1>to be with the kids and Mama. Yes, DeAndre Houston

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<v Speaker 1>Carson our guests another segment to go here with the

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<v Speaker 1>veterans safety and special team star back with you after

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<v Speaker 1>this break on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score.

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<v Speaker 1>This segment of Bears All the Access is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>request an employment in clinic or virtually and start feeling

0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.639
<v Speaker 1>better tomorrow with Bear safety DeAndre Houston Carson, just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about life and football. You know, it's funny some of

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<v Speaker 1>these interviews. You have a couple of questions or ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just start a conversation. You never get

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<v Speaker 1>to the questions. Those are the best ones. I had

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<v Speaker 1>one recently with Cole Comet a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>on television, and you know, I think players get a

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<v Speaker 1>kick out of that too. You know, we're just talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just talking about things that relate to the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are always, to me the best interview. So

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you being open and talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just stuff stuff right here. I don't like using the

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<v Speaker 1>interview voice that you know, what is the interview interview

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<v Speaker 1>voice and someone asks you a question and you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to turn on that, you know, it's that voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go watch the tape. Yeah, yeah, right, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't give him all the all the info right

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<v Speaker 1>right yet. Um, this is not an easy year. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's weird. I had a conversation Mike Pannell in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room and a veteran who has been on

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<v Speaker 1>many many teams, some very successful teams, Packers Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's another veteran guy who guys come

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<v Speaker 1>to him for information on the defensive line. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the locker room the other day and it's bustling.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been in here and you have to there.

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<v Speaker 1>There are there are guys who come in there on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesdays and Thursdays, and meet the media, and they do

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<v Speaker 1>so diligently. But in the past, you know, at place

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<v Speaker 1>with crickets, sometimes you know, guys don't want to answer

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<v Speaker 1>questions about losing. What's different about this team because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like a losing season. I'm just that's from

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<v Speaker 1>my perspective. Maybe you guys are internally looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>a different way, but I just hear it. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>that there's energy in that room. What are you What

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<v Speaker 1>is your guess? I guess do you feel that? Or

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<v Speaker 1>am I? Or am I just making it up? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel it, Okay, I do feel that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a couple of things. Um. One, it may

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<v Speaker 1>be it may be just the fact that we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guys we have in the locker room. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have guys who care about each other. I said

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<v Speaker 1>this the other day, so want to ask me this question.

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<v Speaker 1>We have guys who care about each other and guys who, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not just it's all about them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're losing it, it's all about you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you're just so self centered. Then it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to find really any joy in what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have guys who care about each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have good chemistry. Another thing that's been

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<v Speaker 1>brought up, which I think is true, is the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Flus kind of handles wins and losses. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>very consistent, you know. You know, there's not too much

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<v Speaker 1>really high after winning, not too really low after a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are really really low after loss and

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<v Speaker 1>then you lose four or five in a row, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's just five weeks of being really really low and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can kind of just get stuck there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's another thing. And then maybe I think

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<v Speaker 1>another thing may be the youth, yeah, aspect of it. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about how we're young, like just bringing excitement

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<v Speaker 1>to the locker room. Young teams. Man, they're dangerous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are five more games left in this season. You're

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<v Speaker 1>probably looking forward to that bye week because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>latest bye week I ever recall, right for you too,

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<v Speaker 1>Probably everybody needs a little break. But every game's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be tight. It doesn't matter how under man the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>may look on paper or what the other teams may

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<v Speaker 1>be coming in. I just think, and it's been that

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<v Speaker 1>way all season, with rare exception a couple of instances,

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<v Speaker 1>but it speaks to the coaching staff and the belief

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<v Speaker 1>in each other and the opportunity he's being given here

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<v Speaker 1>across the board, to many different guys in many different positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that's also part of this puzzle a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit? I think so, yeah, I think so. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the NFL in general, Like, there's not too many

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<v Speaker 1>just no, not this record right this year, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>record like this one score game has never been this many.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, you just the parody. Everyone's on scholarship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone plays good ball, and then somehow, I

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's something they need to do. They need to

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<v Speaker 1>do a study on why that is. Like we all

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<v Speaker 1>just come down to the wire here. Look at this. No,

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you watch tape, you're not watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>at least I'm not watching it in the progression of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. It's one side of the ball, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>unless you watch the TV version, you're not seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. So the Philadelphia Eagles run for three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty plus yards, which I mean it's like high

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.120
<v Speaker 1>school level, right, three hundred and sixty six yards against

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers. But the green Bay Packers lost

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<v Speaker 1>by a touchdown. Now, if you looked at that and

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<v Speaker 1>said three sixty six, I don't even need to know

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<v Speaker 1>the score. There's no way Philadelphi's losing that game, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You'd have to look at the turnover

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<v Speaker 1>as well as to well, I don't know all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that's that's really the stat Yeah, you know,

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.879
<v Speaker 1>it's takeaways, right if they have three six may turn

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 1>them all over three or four times. It's like it

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>seems like such dominance at the line of scrimmage, like

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<v Speaker 1>holiday even, you know, But it's that's why you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You need balance, you need you need to score touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to score touchdowns. And I know the takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>are are obvious. And then the return game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of four straight games where you guys were victimized

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<v Speaker 1>by return touchdowns and those return touchdowns way back to

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the days of love you Smith. He said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get one return touchdown, you're likely going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a greater chance of winning that football game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how tenuous it is. For sure. You heard this also,

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<v Speaker 1>I think up is maybe, which is crazy. Yeah, but

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>it steals a possession, so that that's what you're always

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to do as well. DeAndre Houston Carson our guest

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 1>here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>all these new guys coming in, Um, how good of

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<v Speaker 1>a job in your opinion? Are these coaches doing teaching

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and getting guys ready to play and a moment's notice,

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah know these I mean these are great coaches, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>really good teachers, and I'm sure they have their work

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>cut out for him. But are you know what we

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:22.400
<v Speaker 1>do is also schematically not It is detail, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not extremely complicated. So it is a system that you

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>can come in and pick up the basis curely quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they're doing a good job. Tell me

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>about Brisker mentality, big body seven a heck of a year.

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I hope he comes back soon. But what what have

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>your been impressions of him? Well, for one, like you said,

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he's extremely athletic, can cover, can cover anybody. The main

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>thing that I noticed about brisk being around him for

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>a little bit is just his competitiveness, Like he's a

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>true competitor. Um, he hates to lose, obviously he likes winning.

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:02.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think he hates to lose money, right, Yeah,

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 1>he's just a competitive, very physical guy. And he's just

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>like really all of our rookies. I've noticed that their

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>pros already as rookies. You know, they take care of

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the bodies, to watch a lot of film. Those are

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the two things I think that really go into being

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a pro. And he has those two already. A couple

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, I get on the team plane and

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm walking two guys behind Brisker. He sits down, bam,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.679
<v Speaker 1>iPads out, not even can I have something to drink? Boom,

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>he's working. Sure did you find that seven years in

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that that has also been kind of a new newer

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>thing at every opportunity, right after the game getting into

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it or I guess it just depends on the guy. Yeh.

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Some guys just can't be easy until they see the plays,

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>whether they be good or bad. Okay, I want to

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>know what they're waiting to hear from exactly exactly, you know,

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I've seen I've seen some some real examples of guys

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>who are obsessed with film, you know, to where you'll

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>be out with dinner with them and they'll they'll have

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>their iPad they're watching well member Kyle Fuller, Yeah, it's

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>always and that thing open locker room. That thing was

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 1>open one hundred percent of the time. Challenges facing Aaron Rodgers,

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 1>who's banged up, looks like he's gonna play on Sunday,

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>coming in here where he's had so much success. What

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>still are the challenges with him and his crew? Yeah,

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>obviously probably the number one thing is very smart. You know,

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>we have to try to do a good job of

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>giving him some looks he hasn't hasn't seen. Um, I'd

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>say I'm talent. Obviously, he can make any throw, make

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>any throw, and I mean he's one of the best

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>of all time. You know, we just gotta he doesn't

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>turn the ball over much, you know, historically, so i'd

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>say those poppy three things. I'm assuming you get jacked

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>up for something like this. U I heard Justin Jones

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. He's all wound up about it.

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 1>The rivalry thing, you know, that's kind of dissipated over

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 1>the years from my perspective, from players bringing it up,

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>because you know, you're not homegrown here, You're from all

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>over the country, all over the world in some place

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>in some case is with our locker room, and you

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 1>know that has to take time to develop. But he

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 1>did not like how it wound up in week two

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's still bugging him. And uh, you know you've

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>had plenty of them. You had to leave the game

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>last year, in that game and that that ended your season.

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that rings in your ear a little bit too.

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>What what is your impression of that match up with

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the Packers and you know, yeah, and and just it's

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.719
<v Speaker 1>it's it's been uneven you know, yeah, it's been uneven.

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're sick of it. Yeah, everyone in Chicago, Yeah,

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is it rightfully? So? Um, yeah, I think every guy's different.

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, you know, someone who just got here two

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, they might not feel it as much. But

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I think if you've been on the team and once

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>you like justin you playing one time and you start

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 1>to feel it already. He's just like, Yeah, the energy,

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the history behind it, and just that game is really special. Um,

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>it's really an honor to play in it. Think about

0:26:54.400 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it like, heck, yeah they've met how many times? Yeah?

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>To us six especial to be a part of that.

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, when to try to uphold the standard of

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Chicago basketball, and each team has the samon number of wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you aware of this? Yes, And it's exact day,

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>December fourth, one hundred and one years ago when the

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Bears got their first NFL win, and they've never trailed

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the Packers. It's even now, but they've never trailed. Sunday

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>will be exactly one hundred one years ago. It's fate.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fun to go get it. Let's hope

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a fireworks it's firework show. Thank you so

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>much for taking the time. Have a great game and

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>good luck this weekend. That's DeAndre Houston Carson, our guest

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>here on Bears All Access. When we return, I'll be

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>joined by Tom Thare once again, and Ti Dunne will

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<v Speaker 1>join us. He's written a book about tight ends and

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time with the one and only

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Ironed Mike Ditgo. We'll talk about that next here on

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Ty Doune outstanding writer. You know you know I mean it, Tyler.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told you for years you write great stuff. You're

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<v Speaker 1>working now formerly on the Packers beat, you're living in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about what you're doing with golong td because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great newsletter. It talks about all things NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're a Packer fan, it's heavily slanted in

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that direction. Our old friend Bob McGain also working with you.

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get into that and the book you've written.

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<v Speaker 1>But welcome to the program. How's it going two years now?

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<v Speaker 1>This newsletter? You gotta Jeff, Hey, thank thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. It's great to see you, to hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's been a bit. So I always love when

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>we can connect like this. Um. Yeah, launch golong td

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>dot com two years ago about last week, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just had the two year anniversary. Just wanted to really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of zag where. I guess a lot of sports

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<v Speaker 1>media's ziggin right, a lot a lot of fast food,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of memes and takes and gifts and tweets,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've always kind of gravitated toward the long form,

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<v Speaker 1>toward profile writing, feature writing, and just felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was in a place with enough relationships around the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>to cover the NFL through that lens. So substack as

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<v Speaker 1>a platform was perfect. Could just you know, write my features,

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<v Speaker 1>report on them, do what I love to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>see if people want to pay to read stories? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the big I know, does anybody actually want

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<v Speaker 1>to financially support this endeavor? And in two years in

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a really good place where you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's been a lot of fun. And try

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to get into Bears country here and there. You're right,

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot of Packer fans. I remember those

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Milwaukee Journal Settle days. But we've got a decent Bears

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>grew too. I know Oland Groups came out one of

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>my happy hours once. He was great. Um, we've examined

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback situation. Tim Jennings had him on for a

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Q and A once. So if if people subscribe, I'll

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to you and give you which you want. Funny

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you said substack, and Tom there quickly and wait, wait,

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that's something that sounds like a play. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what substack is easier either, Tom, But you heard substack,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, Okay, let's go what are we doing? Line

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<v Speaker 1>up and go? What the heck is a substack? So

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a newsletter platform basically, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to just basically, it's a homeworker writing. It's it's

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>an alternative to social media if you want to take

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>your brain back. They've got a lot of newsletters on there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sports, music, politics, culture, everything. Um. A lot

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of people kind of broken off of corporate media, and

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, for one reason or another, if they want

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to be your own boss and start your own company,

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you can do that. So I created go Along. It's

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it's my own company. But the substack is like the

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>host or to disperse the stories. In addition to the

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>uro Hey, ty, give me a little bit of your

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>feeling about the NFL today, because you got older quarterbacks

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>into their late thirties and forties, and then you've got

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a star driven group of quarterbacks, you know, like your

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow or your Justin Fields and some of the young,

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>star studded quality quarterbacks you have. What is your feeling

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>of the NFL today? That's a great question, because I

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like the NFL today, if you're going to excel

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>with your young quarterback, you've got to create an infrastructure

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>that allows that quarterback to shine, like take advantage of

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>what that quarterback does well in it. It sounds very

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>elementary to speak in those terms, but I mean, I

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>just did a series on two a ton of my

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>own earth ludown in Miami to figure out why he's

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in the MVP conversation and got life under Brian Flores

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>in that offense with where he was at terrible, miserable,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>just treated poorly in meetings and schematically, it just didn't

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>suit his gifts. And he didn't have Tyreek Hill around him.

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<v Speaker 1>That helps as well. So I just think to get

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach and Mike McDaniel to get a receiver

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>in Tyreek Hill for him to show him seven hundred

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>plays of him doing something well. It just took his

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.239
<v Speaker 1>confidence to a whole new level, and he remembered who

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>he was at Alabama, who he was out in Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was that quarterback all along. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches that get that. It seems like the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>get it with Justin Fields, right, who GETSI and everything

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>they're doing with him to take advantage of his athleticism,

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>his mobility, his armed talent, and just creating an offense

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that works for him. And they'll get around and using

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>one hundred million to find him some players. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's in a really good spot because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching step and a team that's gonna take advantage

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of what he does best, which I just implows my mind.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>The more coaches and more teams don't just do that.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It seems simple, but so lots to look at Green

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Bay Bears. You think this was the most opposite under

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the spectrum of a talent like Aaron Rodgers and the

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>other side of talent like Justin Fields, that they're completely

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>two different quarterbacks. Yeah, I mean, on the flip side,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and I've been pretty opinionated on this subject to go along,

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I think Green Bay just completely botched this missed a

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>golden opportunity. You trained Aaron Rodgers at the peak of

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>his powers. You know what he is personally, you know

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>what he is professionally. You know everybody this side of

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady. They're gonna lose a little cleticism. They're gonna

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>lose a little on their fastball. It's inevitable. Father Time

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>is undefeated, and you had an opportunity to just get

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>what three first three seconds, Jerry Judy Patrick's curtain, whatever

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you wanted, a piece of paper. He was the MBV.

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>And yet you bent the knee at every turn from

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the offseason that he held you hostage all through that

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>offseason into the next offseason. So now they're screwed. I

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>mean now he's making fifty miles. It's contracts and albatross.

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>You've got a lot of bad contracts. You've got a

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>young quarterback cooks pretty good to pick that started the

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.720
<v Speaker 1>song during Love has developed. He showed this some stuff.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>What an opportunity to get him some reps. But if

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 1>we've learned anything through this whole charade, it's I don't

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>need the matt with words the head coach in writing.

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Gouda Kins is the GM and but Aaron Rodgers can

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>just do what Aaron Rodgers wants. If he wants to play,

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play. If he wants to play in twenty

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, he'll play in twenty twenty three. It just

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of blows my mind that they had this opportunity

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and they missed it. And we'll see what happens. I mean,

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe Love is able to be the guy and

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 1>they can't put the pieces around him. But if they

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>go that route, it's gonna be a really, really tough

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Whereas in Chicago, justin fields, there a position to put

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the pieces around him and really build for the future.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Dunn our guests here on Chicago Sports Radio six

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>seventy to score from God on td dot com. Check

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>him out. Great newsletter indeed, and he's written a book.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.439
<v Speaker 1>It's called The Blood and Guts. How ti it ends

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and big capitol letters tie save football. Certainly, you got

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk to the coach because he was Iron Mike

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 1>before he was the coach, and the first eighteen pages

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>dedicated to a guy that kind of kicks off the

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>book as changing the way the position was played. A

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>big reason why he's a Hall of Famer because when

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you get guys that revolutionize a position or a scheme

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>or a trend in the league, you're likely bound for Canton,

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>tell us what was the genesis of this book and

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>about your conversations because you went down to Naples to

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>visit with Iron Mike. Absolutely, the genesis I think is,

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, a big picture. I've always wanted to write

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>a book, just didn't really know what the topic would be.

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>And when you think about the sport and everything we

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>love about the sport, the blocking, the tackling, the big plays,

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and this is all it's all still to that tight

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>end position. And I think you know when you watch

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the game today, it's like the league is trying to

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>find this utopian middle ground with violence that doesn't really

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>exist with the flags and the fines. If you look

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>at last night DeMar Hamlin, I mean he hits the

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 1>receiver in the end zone. I don't know what he's

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do on that play. So I'm kind of

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>an old soul in that regard. I feel like the

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>NFL is trying to operate in both the safe space

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>and the octagon. Just own your violence, Own what you are.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's maiming receivers today, right, It's not like it used

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>to be in Dica's day. So when you know it,

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you see it. So I guess it came from a

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>place of just being at miss stop and trying to

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>run to write a book that preserves the game and

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>everything we love about the game. And you get that

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>at tight end. You get it in Mike Dicka. He

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>started the position from square one. Nobody even used the

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>term tight end before he broke onto the scene with

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>John Mackey in the sixties. So yeah, absolutely had to

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 1>go down there right to Dica's world, hang out with

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>him in the club house, and it was wild. I

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>think that there's a lot about Dicka that you guys

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>certainly know, but I think a lot of common bands

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>don't really remember him as a player. They don't remember

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>him as that apex predator on the field, taking names,

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>kicking butt, like just really asserting himself at the top

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of the food chain in a way nobody had really

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>done in the sport before. And then schematically, you know,

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>George Allis obviously had a lot to say about the

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>tight end and offensive football, but the name he brought

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>up again and again is Nuke Johns's his coordinator and

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>just kind of teaching him to line up a little

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>bit off of the tackle, a little bit off, and

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 1>then that gives you the ability to have a two

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>way release, to run left, to run right right. And

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>then once he caught a pass, it was, you know,

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>hell on wheels. He just ran over everybody that moved.

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I had the opportunity to visit with him several years

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>ago just to catalog his history for preservation with the Bears,

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>with the grates of the game. Gail Sayers also was

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>privileged to do that, and he had me in stitches

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>because the storytelling is with still a toughness bent to it, right,

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 1>So he's not laughing. He's serious boss stuff. But don't

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>say yeah because we got Bears Packers. It's the Nichky battle,

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the Niche He and Nichky hated him and they became friends.

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.959
<v Speaker 1>But boy, the collisions in the nastiness of those two

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>is also profiled in it. And then I'll lead you

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to Tom who actually played for the guy. So, but

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>how about those Nichki Dika battles. I mean, that was

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that was really the era, the decade that made American

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>football the number one sport in America. I mean, I

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>think the ratings, the numbers, every everything you'd want to

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>look at suggest that the sixties is when football was

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>modernized and became the real American pastime. And you can

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>say Mike Dicka was the number one reason for that.

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>If you're going to create like a Jerry West silhouette logo,

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>it's probably iron Mike because of the way he played it,

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>because of those battles with Niche. He had me in

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>stitches too. He can remember, like, you know, getting clotheslined,

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting blindsided, just getting just drilled by Nichky

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and those those packers bear games and not thinking it's

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a dirty play, right, It's not like, oh, this is

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 1>out of bounds, you know, uncalled for. No, it's he

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>got me, I'm gonna get him, and he would, and

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>it's stilled into you know, everyday life. They're outside of

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a restaurant in Milwaukee and going at it. It's and

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like you said that, they became friends there, you know,

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the cool thing. I bought it.

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You can beat the hell out of each other on

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the field and be perfectly fine to each other off

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>of it, whether it's Dicka, John McKee, even a Jackie Smith.

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>He had so many stories as well getting into it

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>with Dick Buckus, you know, on the other end of

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the spectrum. Um, I just can't get enough in the air.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll a bit. I mean, I was pretty ignorant when

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>it comes to football in the sixties and seventies. I'm

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, that's before my time. I'm just thinking, he

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of you know, shoemakers and you know

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>melkmen in there and there as their day jobs, and

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of playing football as a hobby. All right.

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>You look at some of these guys dick Us running over. Well, granted,

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys Dick was running over, maybe they

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>did look very small compared to the players today. But

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the rule book was about as thin as a brochure.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>You could do whatever the hell you wanted to out there.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 1>So I think that we had to take that into consideration. Ty,

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I would love your feedback on this. So I played

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>for Mike Dicka for eight years and he was the

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>template of toughness in all aspects of football special team's

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>offense and defense. But he really didn't feature the tight

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>end as a main key to offensive success. It was

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Walter Payton offensive line. Then let's bring you to the

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>modern day NFL with Andy Reid, who was a former

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle and now he features the tight end of

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>one of his main positions of success. Doesn't surprise you

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that a former tight end doesn't feature it, but then

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a former offensive tackle does feature it. That's a great

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>question because that does come up year to year, decade

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to decade, er to erra. Where As I'm heying, I

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>would with everybody from Dicka to Bronk and Kittle today

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and everybody in between, Ben Coats, Tony Gonzalez, Mark Bruners

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>in there, we've got run the whole game, and add

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark Bavaro. Off course, Mark Vavarro, Jeremy's Shocky, I mean

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 1>three backs and drinks with Shocky and Miami Beach, which

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>is every every bit as crazy as you can imagine

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>reading this book. But I feel like it was a

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>very small group of innovators that kept the position evolving

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>over time. It wasn't like like a dick or you know,

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>pick your tight end that became a coach or a

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>coach who coach tight ends. It wasn't like it. It

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 1>became this wave, right, this tightle wave of people who

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>understood what the tight end can do. It was a

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Luke John So's. It was Don Korea with Kelen Winslow.

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>It was Mike Mike Pope, you know, the position coach

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>for Bavaro and Ben Coates and Jeremy Shocky, Sean Payton,

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Bill Parcells. It kind of was sporadic with coaches who realized, Okay,

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a big dude who can

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 1>both lock and run up the scene, makeup play down

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the field, and it is impossible to cover for a corner,

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a safety, a linebacker. All the way to Tony Gonzalez,

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's really I mean, you can make the

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>case that he's the best tight end ever if you want,

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>because he opened up the door for a completely new

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>type of athlete, you know, a select group of coaches

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to realize what this player could do, to the point

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>now where if you're not hunting for an athletic tight end,

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you'll probably be out of a job. All right, Our

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>final moments here with Tyler Dunn, who's written the book

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 1>The Blood and Guts How tight Ends Save Football. So

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the title to wrap us up

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 1>before this great Bears Packers matchup it Soldier Field on Sunday,

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel they save or is it, just

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 1>like you said, the preservation of the sport as we

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>remember it. Why why will tight end say football right?

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>It's present tense. You're absolutely right. You're in the trenches.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You have to roll up the sleeves, you have to

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>block still. Yet it's third and eight. There's seventy thousand

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>streaming fans, millions of people watching at home, the quarterbacks

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>going to you. I mean, you're the quarterback's best friend.

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Peyton man In and Dallas Clark. The hours they put

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>in in saying Drew Brees, Jimmy Graham, Tom Brady, Rob Burnkowski,

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>right down the list, ru Bledsoe and Ben Coates. So

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you have to do a little bit of everything. So

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.959
<v Speaker 1>that's football in a nutshell. But yeah, I just feel

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>like we're so offended by everything today and I don't

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>like it. I don't get it. I think it's weird

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to that society has gotten softer and is offended and

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>then applies to the football field. I think we have

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to reach an agreement that if you are on that

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>field and the players get this, they do offense defense.

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Everybody gets this. If you're on that field, you are

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>subscribing to a certain element of a risk. You understand

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the inherent risk that's involved with football. And guess what,

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 1>so many of these guys in the past, they didn't

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>know the risks. You know, they didn't realize the head

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>trauma and even ligament damage and everything that it could

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>do to you later in life. Lotted, I mean that

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to today. The knowledge is through the roof,

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>so you can make that decision. Is this for me

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>or is this not for me? And if it's for

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you and you step onto that field, I don't understand

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 1>why we have to. You know, have the rule book

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, this thick now as opposed to the brochure,

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and nobody knows what it catches, nobody knows how to tackle,

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows how to hit. We're all this kind of

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:26.240
<v Speaker 1>dazed and confused. And I think that if you siphon

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>out of that, if you siphon that violence side of

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 1>the game, you're gonna lose football. It's going to become

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>something different. But the tight end you still have to hit,

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>You still off the catch, you have to do everything.

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>As Rob Gronkowski, George could, a lot of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>break down in detail. We can preserve the game at

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that position, the blood and guts. Where can people find it? Anywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>a book. All right, Hey, nice job, number one of many. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have volumes of this stuff. Tyler Donne, our guest,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it. Love the conversation, fellows.

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for having me. All Right, Tyler, we'll

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>talk to you down the road. We'll have you on

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 1>again for sure to talk about the rest of the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, Tom and I finish our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>Bears Packers Version two h six, coming up at Soldier

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<v Speaker 1>Field here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>This segment of Bears All Access is brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by CDW people who get it, Jeff Joni Act, Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Thair wrapping things up in our final segment to take

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a look at the matchups and Bears Packers Version two

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a week two justin fields and the offense through for

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>just seventy yards. He ran the ball eight times. That

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 1>could change drastically on Sunday. There are different parties involved here.

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<v Speaker 1>No rashone Gary. Now the Bears have Chase Claypool. There's

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>no Darnell Mooney, no Eddie Jackson, no Robert Quinn, no

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>ro Kwan Smith. They've got changes. Justin Watson's become a

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:59.359
<v Speaker 1>instant star. Six touchdowns in last three games. Crazy how

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<v Speaker 1>much in just from week two to now that these

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>two teams, the complexion of them has changed. What hasn't changed.

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>They both lost seven to eight. Yeah, and they're both

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out where their quarterback is. You know,

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't know, you know as much there's been as

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>much conversation about Aaron Rodgers over these last couple of

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>weeks as there has been about the emergence of Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the point of success for both

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>football teams. They need Aaron to play like he once did,

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and they need Justin to continue on that road of improvement.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's when you bring in the defense. How

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<v Speaker 1>is the defense of Green Bay going to react to

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Justin and how is the defensive pressure and defensive backfield

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<v Speaker 1>going to react to playing Aaron Rodgers, and I think

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's gonna be an unbelievable game. And to

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine that with the storyline behind the quarterback position,

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that it comes down to be in Green Bay in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest rivalry in the NFL, in two quarterbacks that

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be on if on two different roads there of

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>where their their football life is going. It stuck with

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the backs because they've got two good ones. And they

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>did do some damage to the bearer. Aaron Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>an outside zone runner. He is absolutely fantastic. I love

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<v Speaker 1>how he plays the game. There are questions about how

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 1>much they give him the football sometimes not enough. They

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 1>don't incorporate him all the time the way you would

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>think in the passing game. But uh, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery who right now, aside from the runs in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the yard from scrimmage, he's second in yards

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 1>per catch among running backs behind Derrick Henry in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's up over eleven yards at catch. And you've

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<v Speaker 1>been on this for a while about getting him involved

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 1>in the passing game. And it's not just okay, he's

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 1>got good hands, it's what he does with it after

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>he catches the football right, because you know, most of

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the time that he gets a catch outside the box,

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<v Speaker 1>outside the framework up tight end to tackle, he's usually

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<v Speaker 1>facing a third level defender. And there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of defensive backs that are volunteering to tackle David Montgomery

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>one on one in space. And you know Daved Montgomery

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<v Speaker 1>does not want to go out of bounds. If he

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<v Speaker 1>has a challenge of a tackle or near the edge

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of the field, He's going to take the challenge and

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<v Speaker 1>not the edge. And I know that Doug Colletti could

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>probably figure it out. There's a great stat of how

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<v Speaker 1>many yards that Walter Payton had in his total of

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<v Speaker 1>not going out of bounds rather than staying in the

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>field to play. And that's what Dave Montgomery does with

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the great challenge to the when he does able to

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball on the exterior. At the same time,

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Packers have given up the thirty first most runs of

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>ten yards and more. They've allowed seventy points on first

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.800
<v Speaker 1>possessions of each half, of which the Bears have scored

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I think eighty total points than the first drives of

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 1>each half. There's things here the Bears do well. That

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>they're scoring drive percentage is higher than the Packers, who

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.840
<v Speaker 1>are twenty sixth in the league offensively doing that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of interesting math for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different reasons. Where are your focuses on keys to the game? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you a question, though. If the Bears

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>go out there and they win the coin toss, do

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>you defer it to the second half or do you

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<v Speaker 1>take the kickoff and hopefully you can get up saving

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and nothing, and then you can give your defense a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a chance to be aggressive on that

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>first drive, trying to get at Aaron Rodgers and trying

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to limit their success. It's something that you really have

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<v Speaker 1>to contemplate because I'm a big believer you win the

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>coin toss, you defer, but I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers with the ball into his hands that first

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<v Speaker 1>drive and then do something with it. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of adding some confusion with the question you

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<v Speaker 1>just brought up with their lack of success at and

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the halves, right, I kind of with you. Let's take

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 1>out the Louisville Slugger and go right down the field

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 1>and get on the board, get on top because the

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Packers haven't proven they could do much with that. They've

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 1>had a couple comebacks, but they like playing on the lead,

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>and he's always had the lead on the Bears. This

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.359
<v Speaker 1>is how he works. And sometimes it's a you score

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 1>a game and you're not you're not getting back. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's different now because of justin fields and the

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<v Speaker 1>way this offense has been able to score points. How

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<v Speaker 1>About how about defensively? What should the Bears be bracing for?

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<v Speaker 1>Be worried about Aaron Rodgers throne a deep pass the

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Watson the very first offensive play they get. You go

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>back to the first play of the season, Watson dropped

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the ball that was delivered perfectly by Aaron Rodgers against

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.919
<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Vikings, and they they failed to have any

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>type of comeback opportunity after that, and it really, uh,

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of fractured a little bit of the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the early portion of the season. However, Watson has

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<v Speaker 1>really come on. So if they go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, okay, they have a tough time getting pressure

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 1>on the opponent's quarterback, and I have a guy that

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 1>tell me it's forty time because I know, right, I

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>know you know, right at the top of ear I

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know enough the top of my head, but it's

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 1>it's in the four to three range. Yes, it's in

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the three range. So that's what I'm saying. You know,

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you get a guy like Watson who they've been able

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of. Even when Jordan Love came in

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the other night, they hit him with a slant route

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and he took it to the house. So my biggest

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>fear is that first play, challenging the Bears defense to

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 1>see if anybody can stick with wattson the speed start

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<v Speaker 1>four three six, big time, I know you four three

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<v Speaker 1>six m. Yeah, he's been he's been outstanding, and he's

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 1>owning it too. He enjoys being in the spotlight. You

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:26.880
<v Speaker 1>can see him when he scores touchdowns. He folds his

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>arms and stares at the crowd. And he's got that

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and number one receiver type attitude as as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, he does have five drops this season, and

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the Packers have had a lot of drop passes this year,

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 1>more than more than you might expect. All Right, offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about it. Of the potential that Alex Leatherwood

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>could be involved in some fashion. He is getting paid

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money because of that deal that the

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Bears did taking him off waivers from the Raiders. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you like to see him at some point this season

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>or even as soon as Sunday? Oh, I need to

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>see him. I need to what this guy's gonna offer

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bears. Listen, you know you talk about the Bears

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay game. He's fortunate to be able to play

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 1>at home. To listen, to be able to hear the

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 1>count from justin fields. This guy has played in big

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>games throughout his career. There is no bigger program in

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 1>college football than Alabama when he played there. So he's

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:18.480
<v Speaker 1>not going to come in there and be shocked at

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>sixty one five hundred because he's played on both sides

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>of the ball and an away crowd in a home

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 1>crowd one hundred thousand. So listen, if Alex Leatherwood can play,

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and you put him wherever whatever ted you know, I

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 1>assume he's gonna play right tackle, then allow him to

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 1>be physical, watch his feet on terms of past blocking responsibility.

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited and I want to see Alex Leatherwood

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 1>finally get his opportunity. We'll see that you started every

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>game last year for the Raiders. This Bears matchup with

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the Packers brought to you by PNC, the Official Bank

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Bears. Want to thank our guests here today,

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Houston Carson, that Bears nominee for the Sportsmanship Award.

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>The Art Rooney Sportsmanship Award recognized as players who exemplify

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 1>outstanding sportsmanship on the field. So great guest. Thanks to

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Dunn who's written a book about the tight end

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>position called The Blood and Guts from golong td dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Check him out as well. Thanks to our producers, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of all to you for listening. Tom. We'll see

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 1>you Sunday. I'll be there, be angry, all right, that's

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>top there. I'm Jeff Joniac. Thanks to everyone for listening tonight.

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>This is Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS

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<v Speaker 1>Energy on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Goodnight,