WEBVTT - Strengthening Black Women in Leadership (How-To Monday)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, ba fam, we have another how to throw back

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<v Speaker 1>for you. We've talked about before on the show about

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<v Speaker 1>the amazing organization Higher Heights. They are a five to

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<v Speaker 1>oh one C three that is building a national civic

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<v Speaker 1>engagement infrastructure and network to strengthen black women's leadership capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>We love a black woman leader. Okay, so this week

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<v Speaker 1>we are looking back at our conversation with the one

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<v Speaker 1>and the only founders, one of the founders of Higher Heights.

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<v Speaker 2>Glinda c.

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<v Speaker 3>Car Check it out, Check it out, check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Heyba fam, it's Mandy. I'm here with a pretty special

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<v Speaker 3>and unusual show for you guys this week. It almost

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't any show at all. For those of y'all who

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<v Speaker 3>listened to our and joined our Instagram live the Tiffany

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<v Speaker 3>and I did last week, thank you so much. We're

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<v Speaker 3>sorry we weren't able to post the video for y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently something happened with Instagram and Tiffany couldn't save it.

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<v Speaker 4>Maya Kopa. But on the live we said that we

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<v Speaker 4>have a bit of a surprise, and it's because of

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<v Speaker 4>that surprise that we're not able to record a new

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<v Speaker 4>show last week. So you might have noticed there was

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<v Speaker 4>no episode. We're very sorry, but it's for a really,

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<v Speaker 4>really good reason, a reason that I can't quite announce

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<v Speaker 4>just yet, so we'll wait until next week when Tiffany's back.

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<v Speaker 4>That being said, we are here. We are here, y'all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>don't worry. We're fine. Since we couldn't record our regular show, though,

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to go ahead and share with you guys

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<v Speaker 4>an amazing conversation that I had last week when we

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<v Speaker 4>were off with the CEO and co founder of an

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<v Speaker 4>organization based in Brooklyn, New York called Higher Heights for America.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a nonprofit that actually focuses on getting black

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<v Speaker 4>women elected to higher office. So I'm talking about mayor races,

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<v Speaker 4>gubernatorial races, and beyond Kamala Harris. Yep, that is someone

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<v Speaker 4>that Higher Heights has championed and endorsed and helped support

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<v Speaker 4>and they are not stopping now. I had Glinda Carr

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<v Speaker 4>join the show, and I'm thrilled to share that conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with you guys. Why because yes, I had chills just

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<v Speaker 4>like the rest of you last week when we watched

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala get sworn in as the first female black vice

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<v Speaker 4>president in our nation's history. I can never get tired

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<v Speaker 4>of saying that. But that being said, when I started

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<v Speaker 4>to do my googles about black women in politics, Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>was a rarity, and I don't think even I appreciated

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<v Speaker 4>how rare her presence was in our nation's capital until

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<v Speaker 4>I really got down and dirty with the numbers. So

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<v Speaker 4>let me share some with you. Okay. There are zero

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<v Speaker 4>zero black women serving in our US Senate right now. Okay, Now,

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<v Speaker 4>there were a record number of black women in the

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<v Speaker 4>House of Representatives in twenty twenty one, twenty five, though

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<v Speaker 4>y'all only twenty five. Like that's a record that is pathetic. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I cannot twenty five out of four hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five elected officials in the House are black women.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's twenty five women Black women in Congress at

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<v Speaker 4>a time when I mean, haven't you guys heard the

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<v Speaker 4>pundits and the politicians thanking black women. How we saved

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<v Speaker 4>the election for Joe and Kamala. You know how we

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<v Speaker 4>saved twenty twenty, how we turned out in states like

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia and gave them the edge that they needed. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>Black women, Thank you Stacy Abrams, Thank you to our

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<v Speaker 4>fore mothers like Shirley Chisholm, Fanny lou Hamer, and so

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<v Speaker 4>many women who came before them and after. But what

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<v Speaker 4>are we really seeing reflected on Capitol Hill. We are

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<v Speaker 4>not seeing ourselves, and I think that's a problem. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying that we have to get out there and

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<v Speaker 4>run for governor like Stacy Abrams or run for mayor

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<v Speaker 4>like Kisha Land's Bottoms. But what I hope is that

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<v Speaker 4>my conversation with Glinda encourages all of us to not

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<v Speaker 4>just stop with casting our vote in the twenty twenty election,

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<v Speaker 4>but to stay engaged at the local level. And maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you're not someone who wants to run for an office,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's a town council or the school board or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you're not someone who has aspirations of getting into politics.

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<v Speaker 4>But before you give up on yourself, or before you

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<v Speaker 4>think that it's not for you, listen to my conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with Glinda and feel empowered. Our voices matter, Our voices

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<v Speaker 4>can bring about the change that we need to see

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<v Speaker 4>in this country, and twenty twenty was just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>I am so excited for you guys to hear my

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<v Speaker 4>conversation with Glinda. Please hit me up on Instagram. We're

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<v Speaker 4>at Brown Ambition Podcast on the Gram. You can also

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<v Speaker 4>send us an email at Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. Send us your thoughts, your questions. We can't

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<v Speaker 4>wait to be back with you guys next week with

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<v Speaker 4>a brand new show. In the meantime, I enjoy this

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<v Speaker 4>conversation with Glinda and you can check her out at

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<v Speaker 4>Higher Heights for America dot org. All right, Glinda, well,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you very much for coming to Brown Ambition. It's

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<v Speaker 4>really an honor to have you here, especially during a

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<v Speaker 4>year when it seems like Brown Ambition really became a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit less about money and career and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more about what is it like out there for black

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<v Speaker 4>women in this world today? And how can we get

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<v Speaker 4>more political? I don't know, political power. How can we

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<v Speaker 4>feel more empowered other than you know, the news headlines

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<v Speaker 4>will have you believe that, you know, black women really

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<v Speaker 4>came out for this election in previous elections and saved

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the progressive candidates and got them elected. But

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<v Speaker 4>you often, personally, for me, you don't always feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you're seeing the representation on Capitol Hill or even the

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<v Speaker 4>state capitals that matches that you know, appreciation for Black

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<v Speaker 4>women and our power politically. So I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 4>have you on the show because of what I want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to you about is, you know, first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 4>what is Higher Heights? Why did you guys found this organization?

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<v Speaker 4>And where do you see the future for Black women

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<v Speaker 4>in politics? Is it an exciting time? Is it a

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<v Speaker 4>time where you know, we're sort of you know, accepting

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<v Speaker 4>that there's still a long way to go. How are

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<v Speaker 4>you feeling these days? And especially for our listeners, we'd

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<v Speaker 4>love to hear from you tips on how people can

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<v Speaker 4>get involved in their local politics, day politics and beyond,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in a way that helps them contribute more

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<v Speaker 4>than just a vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, you know, black women have been the architects of

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<v Speaker 5>our democracy since the nineteenth Amendment, in frankly earlier, but

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<v Speaker 5>the nineteenth Amendment. We're in the one hundredth and one

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<v Speaker 5>anniversary of that amendment and that movement, and so black

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<v Speaker 5>women certainly, you know, sat among the suffrages of that movement,

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<v Speaker 5>knowing that they weren't going to reap the benefits of

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<v Speaker 5>the work of that decision making table.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's been the work.

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<v Speaker 5>Of black women across many of the milestones across our

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<v Speaker 5>movement building history. You know, black women were clearly the

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<v Speaker 5>architects and quiet organizers during the Civil rights movement. You

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<v Speaker 5>had a Fanny lou Hamer, who frankly was an everyday

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<v Speaker 5>woman sharecropper, who sat in the back of a church

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<v Speaker 5>and got fired up and went from you know, being

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<v Speaker 5>motivated to registering to vote to registering over eighty thousand

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<v Speaker 5>residents in Mississippi, and went on and sat at the

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<v Speaker 5>Democratic National Convention carrying the voices of African Americans demanding

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<v Speaker 5>seats at that convention, which led to just more political power.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we fast forward to twenty twenty and a

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<v Speaker 5>once again a chorus of thank you Black women for

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<v Speaker 5>saving the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be frank, we're not saving the country for our neighbors.

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<v Speaker 5>Black women recognize that, you know, the access to the

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<v Speaker 5>voting block and exercising the right to vote helps to

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<v Speaker 5>build the power. What we demanded in twenty twenty, though,

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<v Speaker 5>was that we want a return on our voting investment,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's in the form of policies that directly impact

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<v Speaker 5>Black women, our families, and our communities.

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<v Speaker 2>And we certainly are continuing to claim seats at decision

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<v Speaker 2>making tables.

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<v Speaker 5>Our political power at the voting booth actually doesn't match

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<v Speaker 5>equally match our representation at elected decision making tables.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean what does it mean to you? I

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<v Speaker 4>think with the Capital riot, you know, how long has

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<v Speaker 4>it been now? It feels like months, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>only a week and a half ago that there was

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<v Speaker 4>an insurrection against the US capital, which is still shocking

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<v Speaker 4>to say. And part of me is a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>sad because I mean, well, first of all, sad for

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<v Speaker 4>so many reasons, but also it feels like it's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of taking away from this moment of history of having

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<v Speaker 4>the first black female vice president, women of South Asian descent,

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<v Speaker 4>all of that. Kamala Harris, and I wonder how you

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<v Speaker 4>feel and how you know, higher Heights is looking at

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<v Speaker 4>her candidacy, her nomination, her win as vice president. What

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<v Speaker 4>excites you about that? And do you feel like Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>is bringing to the table that sense of listen, I

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<v Speaker 4>am here, I'm a black woman, and I am going

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<v Speaker 4>to be unapologetic about that and put forth policies that

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<v Speaker 4>truly help black women in their communities.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely so, we have been proud to stand with Vice

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<v Speaker 5>President elect or as soon to be Madam VP Kamala

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<v Speaker 5>Harris since her run for US Senate in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>so we've only had two black women ever elected to

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<v Speaker 5>the US Senate, right, and so there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>work to continue to ensure that we have representation at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Decision making cables.

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<v Speaker 5>But we certainly were excited that she joined the US

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<v Speaker 5>Senate at a point where she brought not only her

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<v Speaker 5>you know, years of qualifications as an elected official that

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<v Speaker 5>ran one and governed on the city level, ran one

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<v Speaker 5>and governed on the statewide executive level, and then carried

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<v Speaker 5>her voice to the US Senate, and we proudly said

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<v Speaker 5>with her when she ran for President of the United States,

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<v Speaker 5>and her multiple identities as a woman, as a woman

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<v Speaker 5>of color, as a daughter of two immigrants, and a

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<v Speaker 5>black woman, as well as her identities around attending a

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<v Speaker 5>historically black college, being a member of a Greek you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a black Greek letter organization. You know, we're excited about

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<v Speaker 5>her standing and presiding over the US Senate at a

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<v Speaker 5>time where you know, her vice presidency will make her

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<v Speaker 5>one of the most you know, consequential, you know leaders

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<v Speaker 5>in a generation with a fifty to fifty split Congress,

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<v Speaker 5>and so although we are you know, very concerned that

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<v Speaker 5>there is no representation in the body of the US Senate,

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<v Speaker 5>we have literally a US Senator standing and presiding over

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<v Speaker 5>the Senate, and so certainly many of the legislative pieces

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<v Speaker 5>of legislation that she has introduced and authored and champion,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, it's something about a full circle

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<v Speaker 5>moment that there may be times where she's the deciding

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<v Speaker 5>vote to be able to move that legislation from her,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, standing with Senator Corey Booker very clear about

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<v Speaker 5>a discussion around racial disparities around COVID nineteen, the discussion

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<v Speaker 5>around anti the trying to roll back old law around

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<v Speaker 5>anti lynching, to her talking about black women in fibroids

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<v Speaker 5>and the innovations around black women and infmortality and prenatal care.

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<v Speaker 5>Those identities allow her to in the spirit of Maya

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<v Speaker 5>Angela's poem Grandmothers, there's a Stanza a line that says,

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<v Speaker 5>I come as one, but I stand as ten thousand,

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<v Speaker 5>and that is certainly, you know, what we're excited about seeing,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, our new Vice president do to bring all

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<v Speaker 5>of the lived experiences she has as well as her

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<v Speaker 5>for qualifications at a time that we are at the

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<v Speaker 5>height of racial tensions during my generation, and a discussion

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<v Speaker 5>around how do we move beyond COVID recover, survive, recover,

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<v Speaker 5>and thrive beyond COVID nineteen, particularly when the very communities

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<v Speaker 5>that she comes from have been disroportionately impacted back that.

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<v Speaker 5>So we are definitely excited about this opportunity, but recognizing

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<v Speaker 5>that our work has not finished and we need to

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<v Speaker 5>accelerate the work around black women's elected leadership beyond twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Now. Higher Heights has been around for nearly a decade, now,

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<v Speaker 4>is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>I know we were just planning that. We're like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a decade.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Well, congratulations. Listen, we love entrepreneurs here and especially

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<v Speaker 4>in the space that you guys in, so thank you

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<v Speaker 4>so much for that it congrats. Take a moment to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, accept the shine and all the work that

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<v Speaker 4>you've accomplished. Do you feel more of a sense of

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<v Speaker 4>urgency now than you did when you founded Higher Heights? Mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this is like you said, this is a I mean

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<v Speaker 4>all that there's so many things going on, it's too much.

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<v Speaker 4>There's the race, I mean you say tension, but it

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<v Speaker 4>is it feels like a civil wars bubbling under the surface.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and there's an economic crisis, and of course

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<v Speaker 4>Black Americans it feels like financially and health wise have

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<v Speaker 4>been disproportionately impacted by this pandemic. What does that feel

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<v Speaker 4>like to you? Do you feel like there's more of

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<v Speaker 4>a sense of urgency around getting more power, getting more

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<v Speaker 4>influence in politics and why what sort of are the

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<v Speaker 4>platforms or the issues that are most important to higher

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<v Speaker 4>heights now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Kimberly Peeler Allen, the other co founder, and

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<v Speaker 5>I too, black women who happened to work in politics.

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<v Speaker 5>But everyday black women sat in a Brooklyn cafe literally

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<v Speaker 5>ten years this February and we actually Kimberly came to

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<v Speaker 5>coffeecause I was trying to figure out my next career

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<v Speaker 5>move within that, you know, I had grown some frustration

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<v Speaker 5>around particularly progressive politics, which is what we worked in

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<v Speaker 5>at the time, and being in rooms that were dominantly white,

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<v Speaker 5>dominantly you know, male, and you know, being looked at

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<v Speaker 5>as like a unicorn, like like black black politically engaged women,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, women who you know, write checks and volunteer

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<v Speaker 5>in our vocal that we're this like black Unicorn and

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<v Speaker 5>so out of event because you know, you sometimes we

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<v Speaker 5>all will have event conversation with a girlfriend. We literally

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<v Speaker 5>we should start our own organization, and we sat and

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<v Speaker 5>kind of just chatted about what it looked like. We

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<v Speaker 5>wrote the words Higher Heights down that day and spent

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<v Speaker 5>a year and a half researching, like what would this

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<v Speaker 5>look like? And we we wanted to see an organization

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<v Speaker 5>we could see ourselves in, and so you accelerate the work,

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<v Speaker 5>you know we have.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're in a moment.

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<v Speaker 5>One of our foundation principles is we want to create

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<v Speaker 5>the environment for black.

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<v Speaker 2>Men to vote, run, women lead.

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<v Speaker 5>And I certainly think that some of the successes of

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<v Speaker 5>Higher Heights that we're in a moment where you know,

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<v Speaker 5>everyone is talking about black women's political power and leadership

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<v Speaker 5>and celebrating our leadership. But we also recognize there's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of work to be done by the numbers, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and so in one hundred and seventeenth Congress, we have

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four black women serving, and so over the last

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<v Speaker 5>couple of elections, sorry, twenty four black women and two

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<v Speaker 5>non voting delegates. So in total, twenty five twenty six

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<v Speaker 5>black women serving in the House of Representatives, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>been a steady gain over the last ten years. We've

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<v Speaker 5>seen a record number of black women run and win

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<v Speaker 5>each year, but we've never elected a black woman to

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<v Speaker 5>governor or, as I would say, we've never had a

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<v Speaker 5>black woman's serve because for me, Stacy Abrams did win

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<v Speaker 5>that twenty eighteen election cycle.

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<v Speaker 4>Beauheart twinges every time. Yes, Stacy Abrams, we cannot have

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<v Speaker 4>this conversation without mentioning her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, out of the two one hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>sixty two women who serve in state legislatures across the

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<v Speaker 5>current only three hundred and seventeen of them as the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the year are black women.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen a steady gain of black.

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<v Speaker 5>Women running and winning as mayors of top one hundred cities,

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<v Speaker 5>but we currently have six and so when you look

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<v Speaker 5>at those and I've already said, there's zero black women

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<v Speaker 5>in the US in it. And so there's still work

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<v Speaker 5>to be done. And it's not that black women aren't running. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>we need more black women to run, frankly, from the

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<v Speaker 5>local office, may it be school board, to city council,

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<v Speaker 5>to some of your state legislatures or county.

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<v Speaker 2>Black women are running.

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<v Speaker 5>Be clear, there's still barriers access to navigating the political

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<v Speaker 5>process and party early party and institutional support, raising money,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, still a discussion around what does electability

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<v Speaker 5>look like like. You don't hear anyone using the word

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<v Speaker 5>electability to white men, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It is reserved for women and particularly women of color.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we know that a Kamala Harris or a

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<v Speaker 5>New York State Attorney General Tis James.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually the road maps.

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<v Speaker 5>Not because you go, oh, I want to be a

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<v Speaker 5>g now or I want to be the vice president,

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<v Speaker 5>is the fact that they ran for local office. Letitia James,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, was a New York City council member and

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<v Speaker 5>her career projectory was to run for a higher office.

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<v Speaker 5>Oftentimes it could be you are going to make you

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<v Speaker 5>are going to have your maximum impact, like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>on your town council. And so our work is to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, help identify, help to inspire, train, and support

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<v Speaker 5>black women. Our Political Action Committee currently supports women running

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<v Speaker 5>for federal office, statewide executive office, and mayors of top

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<v Speaker 5>hundred cities. But our network of black women across this

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<v Speaker 5>country are elected or thinking about running for office at

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<v Speaker 5>all levels and Frankly, many of our members are just

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<v Speaker 5>like my best friend. They just want to be more

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<v Speaker 5>civically engaged and grow into stretch in their political leadership,

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<v Speaker 5>and that may be advocating on behalf of issue they

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<v Speaker 5>care about. To their elected leaders, continue to help recruit, sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>continue to help organize our community to the polls, and

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<v Speaker 5>so we all should consider ourselves political leaders and then

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<v Speaker 5>finding out what is the highest use of your time,

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<v Speaker 5>talents and treasures to help move this democracy in this

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<v Speaker 5>country to higher heights.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what I know sadly about local politics is

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<v Speaker 4>like parks and recreation. That was a really good show

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<v Speaker 4>with a meere But honestly, ever since I told you

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit when we were talking about the show

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<v Speaker 4>my background, I bought a house a few a few

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, and we live in a town and we've

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<v Speaker 4>gotten to know our town councilmen and elected officials and

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<v Speaker 4>they are so accessible and they've they're right here and

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of fun. My husband and I have gotten

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<v Speaker 4>like we like to just email them and tell them

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<v Speaker 4>about things that are going on. But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 4>town council because that, to me is something that's really

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<v Speaker 4>accessible for a lot of people looking for an entryway,

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<v Speaker 4>a pathway into political leadership in their communities. But what

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<v Speaker 4>kind of power is there in the town council to

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<v Speaker 4>drive change that can really impact black communities? And what's

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<v Speaker 4>that stake if we don't start having more diverse leadership

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<v Speaker 4>at that level. If you can talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, our diverse decision making tables make better decisions.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we are seeking to ensure that black women's

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<v Speaker 5>voices are heard at all levels. And as you know, frankly,

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<v Speaker 5>local elected office has a more direct and immediate impact.

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<v Speaker 2>On your day to day lives.

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<v Speaker 5>I use an example like my I have a earlier

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<v Speaker 5>in my career, I had a lot of friends that say,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't do politics, and I certainly believe

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<v Speaker 5>we have a bunch of our networks that still say

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<v Speaker 5>I don't do politics. And I give an example that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, almost everything is tied to a public policy

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<v Speaker 5>or a poor public dollar. And I usually use an

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<v Speaker 5>example that in most places in the United States, we

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<v Speaker 5>all have street lights, and so certainly when that street

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<v Speaker 5>light goes out, there's a discussion around who do you

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<v Speaker 5>you know, how do we advocate to make sure we

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<v Speaker 5>have street lights, making sure that street light is on,

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<v Speaker 5>and that is also tied to most likely a public

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<v Speaker 5>policy or a public dollar. And those public dollars in

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<v Speaker 5>public policies are tied.

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<v Speaker 2>To an elected official that you voted for or not

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<v Speaker 2>voted for.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the work of you know, strengthening you know,

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<v Speaker 5>our government is beyond the voting booth. Right, democracy doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>begin in on election day. It actually begins, and so

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<v Speaker 5>we need to all be active citizens in not only

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<v Speaker 5>holding our elected officials accountable, but frankly creating the environment

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<v Speaker 5>for our champions to push innovation in public policy and

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<v Speaker 5>public budget processes.

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<v Speaker 4>So what does that look like, you know, for someone

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<v Speaker 4>who's listening at home and see something in their town

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<v Speaker 4>that they don't like or wants to take action, do

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<v Speaker 4>you just I mean literally, how do you get involved

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<v Speaker 4>in the town council? Like? Do you just go to

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<v Speaker 4>what is it town hall and say Hi, I would

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<v Speaker 4>like to get on the ballot, or you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>just break it down because this is just the level

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<v Speaker 4>of detail that it's that access to knowledge of how

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<v Speaker 4>things happen that you know, I'm certainly lacking, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think a lot of other folks will be too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you're you know, someone who's not thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>running for office, but just want to be more actively engaged,

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<v Speaker 5>it is attending town halls, in town council meetings or

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<v Speaker 5>what a city council meet, whatever level.

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<v Speaker 2>It is lobbying your elected officials.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that is you know, I'm still I spent

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<v Speaker 5>six years working for the New York State Legislature as

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<v Speaker 5>a chief of staff, and you know, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The member I used to work for.

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<v Speaker 5>We would say the squeaky wheel gets the oil right,

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<v Speaker 5>and often people in our you know, people believe that

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<v Speaker 5>the squeaky oil is wealthy people and people that are connected. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>they do have access, but frankly, votes matter to elected

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<v Speaker 5>the leaders. So when you are now looking about an

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<v Speaker 5>issue and you're getting hundreds or thousands of letters or

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<v Speaker 5>emails or tweets on an issue, it makes your elected

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<v Speaker 5>officials pay attention and you're opening up a dialogue. You

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<v Speaker 5>ought to be well one, We ought to know who

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<v Speaker 5>our elected officials are so that we can, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>pay attention not only during voting time, but during during

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<v Speaker 5>governing times. And frankly, if you are passionate about an issue,

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<v Speaker 5>it is connecting with the elected officials. Again, when I

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<v Speaker 5>used to work for the state legislature, there are several

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<v Speaker 5>pieces of legislation that the senator I worked for introduced

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<v Speaker 5>because he had a conversation with a constituent who either

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<v Speaker 5>had something that they were inspired by or something they

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<v Speaker 5>were upset about. And so as a regular everyday you know,

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<v Speaker 5>citizen not running for office or governing, you can impact

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, help author and move policy. And then finally,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're thinking about running for office, you know there

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<v Speaker 5>are a ton of training programs. Higher Heights just hosted

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<v Speaker 5>our first boot camp of the year and a half

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<v Speaker 5>day training. But our partners like Emerge in Emily's List,

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<v Speaker 5>the Black Campaign School, from the Collective Pack, they all

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<v Speaker 5>have you know nowadays, all have online programming. And what's

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<v Speaker 5>great about that we've always done online training is that

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<v Speaker 5>one of the one of the obstacles that the research

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<v Speaker 5>from the Center for American Women in Politics have pointed

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<v Speaker 5>out is that women aren't encouraged to run for office,

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<v Speaker 5>but women of color and particularly black women oftentimes are

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<v Speaker 5>discouraged from running for office.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes doing physical trainings or.

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<v Speaker 5>Starting to talk about your thinking about running for office,

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<v Speaker 5>that you don't want those those people who will be

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<v Speaker 5>the naysayers before you even have thought this through. And

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<v Speaker 5>so frankly being able to you know, spend a little

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<v Speaker 5>quiet time in a corner in your home with you,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, watching a webinar to really determine if running

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<v Speaker 5>for office is again the best use of your you know, time,

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<v Speaker 5>talents and treasures. And so I would always encourage people,

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<v Speaker 5>if you think about running for office, to take any

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<v Speaker 5>of the amazing trainings, most of them are free. And

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<v Speaker 5>I would also encourage, as you know, we are in

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<v Speaker 5>a environment whe everybody say, oh, I want to run

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<v Speaker 5>for office. Not every one of us need to run

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<v Speaker 5>for office. And so it's determining what is you know

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<v Speaker 5>what what how do you want to make an impact

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<v Speaker 5>in your community and that may be, like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>strengthening your leadership roles outside of government, you know, considering

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<v Speaker 5>running for office, or frankly being the person that recruits

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<v Speaker 5>in recruits and encourages those to run for office.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I think one of the I mean, obviously it's

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<v Speaker 4>in the name of our podcast been ambition. It's it's

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<v Speaker 4>crazy to me but so common. True ambition sometimes starts

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<v Speaker 4>in quiet places where you're safe and you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to s say it out loud because you're afraid. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it takes courage, I think to stand up and say

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<v Speaker 4>that I want something. You know, I I am ambitious

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<v Speaker 4>enough to reach for a higher height. And you're right,

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<v Speaker 4>there are people who will be those naysayers and or

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<v Speaker 4>because I've never seen it before, they want to protect you,

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<v Speaker 4>don't want you to get hurt, and you know, made

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<v Speaker 4>dissuade you from that. So the work of the work

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 4>of your organization is is wonderful in that way because

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 4>you guys, it's and kind of describe how Higher Heights

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<v Speaker 4>works is. I know that you guys have a political

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<v Speaker 4>action Sorry, what's a pack? What does it stand for?

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<v Speaker 2>Political action? Political Action Committee? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>I watch MSNBC. So, yes, you guys, you you raise

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<v Speaker 4>fund so that you can back candidates. What do you

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<v Speaker 4>guys look like. We'll look at in candidates that you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking to back and do you have to go looking

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<v Speaker 4>pretty far and wide to find women of color out

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<v Speaker 4>there to to to push into you know, higher office.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so yet, we have a political Action Committee.

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<v Speaker 5>Our committee is made up of board members and some

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 5>community community members and so we solely, unapologetically support women

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 5>that identify as black women who are running at the

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 5>federal level, statewide executive and top mayors of top one

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 5>hundred cities. And we, as you mentioned, yes, we do

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 5>financially support candidates. We also encourage our members and our

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 5>networks to support and fundraise for our candidates. And we

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 5>then activate our community, our growing community, to volunteer. And

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 5>so in COVID nineteen, there are a couple of things

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 5>that I think that have come out that have allowed

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 5>us to many organizations and programs to expand. Is the

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 5>notion of being able to be anywhere across the country

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<v Speaker 5>and being inspired by someone running for office and being

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 5>able to volunteer by making phone calls or texting neighbors

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 5>and texting voters in that district, and frankly hosting virtual

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.439
<v Speaker 5>fundraisers that you could literally sit in your house, in your.

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Across the country.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we helped to connect our our members to

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 5>volunteer opportunities. We host volunteer opportunities the cycle we you

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 5>know called across you know our you know sixteen black

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 5>women that were on the general ballot, you know, shy

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 5>of a you know, a thousand calls and texts and

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 5>for them. It is That is how you win elections, right,

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 5>You build, you build an infrastructure that helps you talk

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 5>to and get your message out to voters. But you know,

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 5>each year, you know we've, yes, we do reach out

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 5>and go hey, Jane, you should consider running for office.

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 2>But certainly, you know there's a growing interest and we

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<v Speaker 2>were in daily dialogue.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.719
<v Speaker 5>With women running for office and frankly running for office

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 5>that our Political Action Committee may not support, but all

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 5>of our resource tools and our training support women running

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 5>for office. I recently got it, like a tweet or

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 5>a DM from someone that said you helped me win

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 5>my election to town council. And you know my original

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 5>action is like, well, we didn't support you, and she's like,

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 5>you sure, did you create the space for me? I

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 5>was quite you know, I was on, I was you know, engaged,

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 5>and she felt that you know, for us, we're the

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.719
<v Speaker 5>political home that she had found a home that broadly

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 5>supported her her candidacy and you know, you know, had

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 5>access to the tools that not only were tactical tools,

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 5>but also just the ability, like you said, the naysay

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 5>being the place like you can do this, that support mechanism,

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 5>and you know that's one of the things that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Kimberly and I are very proud at Kamala Harris once

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 5>said to us in twenty eighteen, and she's, you know,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 5>been a great you know, governing partner and partner in

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 5>this work. Is that did you know? And again it's

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 5>been ten years. We felt like it was the longest

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 5>ten years. There were years where you know, people didn't

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 5>think they got the vision of the organization. Those same

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 5>people are like, you know all in now is Kamala said,

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 5>did you know you were going to build an organization

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 5>for a time as this? She was like, it may

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 5>have not hit the benchmarks that you thought they were

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 5>going to meet when when you thought they were supposed

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 5>to be me, but you actually had a container to

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 5>be able to harness this power since two frankly, since

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 5>twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I mean, it feels like part of you wants

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 4>to I'll speak for myself. Part of me is a

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 4>little jaded in the sense that oh, you thought, okay,

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 4>so now black women are all that and everyone wants

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 4>to lean into us and pour into us. And you know,

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 4>I was laughing with Tiffany because we haven't gotten more

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 4>podcast networks reaching out to us to partner with.

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Us until this summer.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, oh yeah, because you looked at your

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 4>lineup and you realize there was something missing. And we've

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 4>been here for five years doing it and independently, and

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 4>it's like you said, you know, you put the work

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<v Speaker 4>in and you're ready for the moment. And I guess

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 4>part of me had to quickly put aside that little

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 4>bit of cynicism, like where were you five years ago? Okay,

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 4>you're here now, all right, I'll take advantage of the guilt.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 4>That's fine.

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, so you're part of my you know, I

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 5>go through my moments of pettiness. Oh now you're here,

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh you want to meet? Oh you're taking my phone call?

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 4>And I'll say it. Yeah, So we're looking to diversify it.

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, just and you know, if you own it,

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, I own it, you know what I mean, Like,

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>just let it be known. Don't don't pretend like we've

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, all of a sudden you notice that we're

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 4>here and that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I had said I was playing off of

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 5>I was like, black women are like the show or

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 5>just the new black, right, So black women are the

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 5>new black right, And so certainly we're leaning into the

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 5>moment one for our allies who have recognized that black women,

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, black women govern and lead.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think in a way that's inclusive.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we have a great supporter, a white woman

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 5>who when we were talking about branding ourselves as a

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 5>political home for black women, and she was like, I

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 5>still see myself in that, right, And I was like, well,

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 5>and that we didn't actually set out to go, let's

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 5>make sure that everybody can.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>See themselves in the organization.

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 5>And but because people feel that they're a space for them,

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 5>I was like, that is just how black women navigate, right,

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 5>It's how our grandmothers navigated. I mean there were certainly

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 5>always a seat at my grandmother and mother's dinner table,

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 5>right that if we brought somebody home, there was always

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 5>enough food and enough space.

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's how black women lead.

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 5>Right, is that we don't have a defined you know,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 5>there's only a set amount of.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Chairs, and that we you know that it's closed.

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 5>That that is actually I think because we were locked

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 5>out of those tables and those chairs, we are ensuring

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 5>that we're unifiers and that there's space. And I'll even

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 5>give you an example of how I now read Shirley

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 5>Chisholms quote about if there's not a seat at the table,

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 5>bring your folding chair. And so there's some debate about

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 5>well I shouldn't have to scoop myself up to the

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 5>table because of folding chair. I was like, well, how

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 5>if we envision What she was saying is that if

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 5>you envision that the table is big enough, there's enough seat,

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 5>you can bring enough seats at that table. If we

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 5>continue to believe that the seat the table is already

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<v Speaker 5>set and that we have to fight and push people

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 5>like be clear that some people were pushing out of

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 5>chairs like I am, I'm not apologic, Like sorry, this

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 5>is still political science, and politics is that you know,

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 5>we are definitely tapping on several people's chairs, going it's

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 5>time for you to go. But if we're really gonna

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 5>like move past this like this, this toxic moment, we

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 5>have to be able to say that black women are

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 5>building different tables in how those tables are set.

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<v Speaker 4>Up, right, It's not even about bringing your own chair.

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 4>It can be just okay, well you'll have your table.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 4>We're just gonna make our own table and put it

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 4>in the same room nearby adjacent. Yeah, I love that,

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 4>just to kind of round out this conversation. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>and I felt like many people, I imagine, so adrenalized

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 4>by this year and so devoted to keeping the momentum going.

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 4>And I'm wondering, from your perspective, what does that look like,

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<v Speaker 4>because I would hate for the progress that we've seen.

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, people in my family in Atlanta got registered

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.479
<v Speaker 4>for the first first time, you know, voted in their

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 4>first Senate runoff campaign. Ever, you know, this past January,

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 4>it's we're still in January, nevermind this year and and

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 4>I I, you know, I wonder, how do we how

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 4>do we maintain and this attention? How do we keep

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 4>people fired up? You know, we had to really I

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 4>get it when it's it felt like life or death

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 4>this election cycle. You know, we really had to get

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 4>out there. But yeah, how do you how do you

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 4>harness that momentum? And what can people be doing now?

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 4>Even though the general election's over and we're we're in

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 4>a bit of a I don't know, I hate to

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 4>say a place where we can be safe because we

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 4>just had a ride on the Capitol. But we're past

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 4>a big hurdle in terms of the general election, how

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 4>do we how do we keep that momentum going.

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<v Speaker 5>I certainly believe that there's a lot of work to

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<v Speaker 5>be done. One you know, at the end of the year,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 5>we sat and talked about what does next steps look

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 5>like for say, higher heights, and so we are definitely

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 5>taking the lessons learned from the first ten year. And

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 5>it's about you know, Kimberly and I started this whole

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 5>hashtag black Women Lead the Road to twenty twenty, Like

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 5>in twenty sixteen that we knew that twenty twenty was

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 5>a pivotal year for black women's political leadership. It is

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.240
<v Speaker 5>now beyond. It's now about the strategy beyond twenty twenty.

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 5>And certainly we are deep diving and accelerating our work

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 5>around electing black women to the US Senate, electing black

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 5>women governeurs within s not one and certainly you know,

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 5>ensuring that you know, our candidates are supported early by

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 5>the broader masses. You know, oftentimes people jump on very

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 5>late and go like I've been with Kamala from day one.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 5>I've been with Stacey Abrams from day one, and that

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 5>actually isn't you if I get to write the history

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 5>that is certainly not the case in the history books.

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 5>And so how do we then identify the next you know,

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 5>the next generation of leaders and that frankly, you know,

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 5>starts with a multi generational approach. And then, you know,

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 5>we don't elect black women for black women's sake. We

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 5>believe that our leadership is a leadership that will build

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 5>a policy platform that creates what I believe black women,

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 5>what our research has pointed to our polling and our

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 5>informal salon conversations, black women want economically thriving, educated, healthy

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 5>and safe communities.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 2>So if you're looking at what do.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 5>We do beyond beyond the voting booth, it is ensuring

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 5>that we're creating that environment, as I mentioned earlier, for

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 5>our champions to push real innovation into our public policy

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 5>making and to frankly, hold elected officials accountable. We can't

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 5>just continue to elect elect amazing leaders who don't have

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 5>the political support. Like the political support, right, It's all

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 5>about political demand and political will, and that's the work

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 5>of the people is to build the political will by

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 5>flexing our political demand so that we can push policies

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 5>that center our communities, our families, our communities, and our nation.

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, Glinda Karth, thank you so so much for joining

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 4>Brown Ambition. This is a conversation I've been looking forward

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 4>to for weeks and I'm so honored that you took

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 4>some time to spend with us.

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 2>No problem, Thanks for having me.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Where can folks find out more about Higher Heights and

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 4>get involved?

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so we need black women and our allies to

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 5>grow this movement building moment, and so as we celebrate,

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, continue to celebrate the swearing in of Kamala Harris.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean we even though the inauguration completely different than

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 5>what we thought it was going to be in to

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 5>be from both a health perspective and a safety perspective, we.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 2>Are centering joy.

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 5>So we are we have been celebrating and have hosted

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 5>a variety of virtual events celebrating this moment. But we're

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 5>still going to build. So go to Higher Heightsfoamerica dot org.

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 5>It takes a click to become an activist member that

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<v Speaker 5>will plug you into all of the programming and frankly

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<v Speaker 5>information and data and then you know, we'll work you

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<v Speaker 5>up the leadership, life matter to a variety of things.

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<v Speaker 2>So you might be sitting here going I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a member, and the.

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<v Speaker 5>Next thing you know, in a year, you're running for

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<v Speaker 5>office with higher heights.

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<v Speaker 4>Next thing you know, you show up at a virtual

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<v Speaker 4>brunch and you're putting yourself on a belllet got it. Well, Glinda,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, thank you. Think you can't thank you enough,

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<v Speaker 4>and for all the work you've done. Congratulations on nearly

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<v Speaker 4>a decade of higher heights. It's wonderful, great, and we look.

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<v Speaker 5>Forward to being in contact and in conversation about what

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<v Speaker 5>we have planned for the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you get the whole Wizard of Oz thing alive?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I work it so Wizard of Oz. My

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<v Speaker 5>middle brother is a Wizard of Oz fanatic. He's probably

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<v Speaker 5>seen it over a hundred times, and so oftentimes I accident.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also have all types of things.

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<v Speaker 5>I bring into my speeches around I used to wear

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<v Speaker 5>red shoes all the time, So this whole thing around

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<v Speaker 5>red shoes and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's a Glinda the Goodwitch.

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<v Speaker 2>So two things.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is g l y n das said the

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<v Speaker 5>same way, but Glinda the Good Witch is.

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<v Speaker 2>G l I n d A.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you're with if you're an Oz fan, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean it's no Wicked. If you're a Wicked fan, it's Glinda,

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<v Speaker 5>but we usually bring the Wizard of Oz into some

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<v Speaker 5>of our conversations because Glinda the Goodwitch once said to

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<v Speaker 5>Dorothy when asked why she couldn't make it home, She's like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, dear, You've always had the power.

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<v Speaker 2>You just needed to know that you had it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's certainly. You know, the work of.

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<v Speaker 5>Higher Heights is, you know, providing a space for black

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<v Speaker 5>women to step into their leadership, expand their leadership, and

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<v Speaker 5>frankly recognize the power that we have in our democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. I'm going to keep that as a

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<v Speaker 4>little bonus for the end of the episode, the story

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<v Speaker 4>behind Glinda.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what an awesome, empowering throwback. It was

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<v Speaker 1>such so fun to make a trip down memory lane.

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<v Speaker 1>So make sure that you check out Brown and Bish

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<v Speaker 1>and we are here every Monday for the Throwback, every

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday for the Bang Show, and every Friday for the

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<v Speaker 1>ba Qa Okay,