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Speaker 2: just haven't established we haven't given him the lanes that

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Speaker 3: Mcavy's three film malls. It's not normally something that he does.

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Speaker 1: How much since he's lying. I mean, readers all load

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Speaker 2: They just have great get off. They study the film.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like this route locker room had a lot of

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Speaker 2: it's very definable. It's very football driven, it's very schematic driven,

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