Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast What's going on Everyone? And
Speaker 1: welcome to an all new episode of help I Suck
Speaker 1: at Dating. It's Tina Lert joined by his handsome, incredible
Speaker 1: co host Jared Haven. Wow. What an intro. Bro? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how are you, Jared? I'm doing well. Uh you know.
Speaker 1: We're opening the coffee shop. Very exciting things also extremely
Speaker 1: nerve wracking, but hopefully later at October will be open. Bro,
Speaker 1: I'll have a nice coffee ready to go for you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna also try to make it like a little
Speaker 1: bit of a date spot, So anybody who's listening who's
Speaker 1: in like the Rhode Island, New England area and looking
Speaker 1: for like a cool first date spot, you should definitely
Speaker 1: check out Audrey's as longer as going on a first date,
Speaker 1: like late October early November, because if you come now,
Speaker 1: we won't be open, but we're gonna have like little
Speaker 1: uh game games that you can play at tables, like
Speaker 1: car games, so you can get to know each other better.
Speaker 1: I always still thought, like what if Dean we had
Speaker 1: like dating advice cards and it was from bachelor people,
Speaker 1: So like there's a card on the table and it's
Speaker 1: like some sort of advice from you, and it will say,
Speaker 1: you know, Dean Angler. Yeah, that's a good idea. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna try to make like a Bachelor theme present
Speaker 1: in the restaurant? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously Ashley and I are very aware that we owe
Speaker 1: a lot to the Bachelor franchise and we're known for it,
Speaker 1: so we want to pay homage to it. For example,
Speaker 1: there's a rose in the logo. There's gonna be certain names, uh,
Speaker 1: in the drinks or the food. We were also thinking
Speaker 1: maybe we'll name a drink, a coffee drink after you.
Speaker 1: We're thinking of Deanie's Coffee Beanies. What an honor that
Speaker 1: would be having a coffee named after me. You were
Speaker 1: the first one that came to mind, Deanie's Coffee Beanies.
Speaker 1: What about like Nick and Ben and Wells and all them?
Speaker 1: You have to do them too. Oh, of course, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think though, Like Nick was the next person,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't think of an name
Speaker 1: for Nick. We're thinking maybe some sort of like bitter coffee,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a little bit drier. But then like
Speaker 1: once you see there has like a sweet after taste.
Speaker 1: M chiseled abbs somehow to obviously tattoos all over the place. Um,
Speaker 1: that's that's funny, man. I would be honored to have
Speaker 1: a drink named after me. I would have to taste
Speaker 1: test it too, and like, you know, give my my
Speaker 1: blessing on the drink, because I don't want to have
Speaker 1: like a crap not that you're gonna have crappy drinks
Speaker 1: that you'r you bite your tongue, my friend. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was impressed by the size of the space. I was
Speaker 1: expecting it to be like a little rinky dinky coffee shop,
Speaker 1: but it's like a pretty I see. Like why lounge
Speaker 1: is part of the title that because it does feel
Speaker 1: very loungey. Yeah, very loungey. So we're excited and like
Speaker 1: I said in the Captain and I truly meant it,
Speaker 1: the the opportunity to be a business owner, uh is
Speaker 1: really cool, and especially in my home state. And I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a family owned business and family run business.
Speaker 1: So being here surrounded by family and friends that can
Speaker 1: really support and help me means a lot. Um. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited, man. But so that's what's happening in my world.
Speaker 1: What's up? Have you thought about who you're gonna like employ? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I had actually a couple of interviews today and
Speaker 1: I actually just hired, uh, not officially, but she said
Speaker 1: she was gonna take the job, which is very exciting
Speaker 1: a manager and she's fantastic. So I'm super excited to
Speaker 1: work with her. And my dad's gonna help me manage it.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I really wanted to be a family business.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be very heavily involved in it. Ashley,
Speaker 1: you know, Ashley is gonna do what she does, which
Speaker 1: has come in and you know, shake hands and kiss
Speaker 1: babies that are not her own. Um, and uh, as
Speaker 1: long as he's as long as she's kissing hands, as
Speaker 1: long as she's not shaking babies and kissing hands, yes,
Speaker 1: flip that reverse it, but something along those lines. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's cool. Man. I'm excited. But but how was
Speaker 1: your how was your travels? You're back in the States now,
Speaker 1: I'm in at my home in Los Angeles. It was
Speaker 1: good man. I'm I'm bummed I missed last week's episode.
Speaker 1: I was. I'm sure you filled everyone in. I was
Speaker 1: in Alaska and I did not have cellphone reception and
Speaker 1: cellphone is up and started to come by in Alaska,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. Yeah, I feel like cellphone reception
Speaker 1: is difficult to come by in a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of parts of the world. Yeah. Um, we were up
Speaker 1: at this like it didn't snow for the first like
Speaker 1: four days we were in Alaska in the very the
Speaker 1: second to last day, we got like a foot and
Speaker 1: a half and we were up at this remote cabin
Speaker 1: and uh, we didn't get stuck, but it definitely like
Speaker 1: delayed our departure and arrival to Anchorage or while Cila,
Speaker 1: I guess it is where we were. Uh. Last time
Speaker 1: I talked to you, guys, we did a double header
Speaker 1: from Greece and then obviously after that, Kalin and I
Speaker 1: went to Italy. Oh wait, no, I did record an
Speaker 1: episode from Italy. Yeah, we were in the the Dolomites. That
Speaker 1: was when we had hand on Um, right, that's right,
Speaker 1: that's right. So yeah, so I talked to you from Italy.
Speaker 1: Italy was amazing. Italy was the most expensive trip I've
Speaker 1: ever been on my life, but it was worth every penny.
Speaker 1: We had an amazing time. Um. I definitely gained like
Speaker 1: twenty pounds of just eating spaghetti and drinking beer every
Speaker 1: single day, do you find that the food taste better?
Speaker 1: It was so good, man. Every you would like find
Speaker 1: like a crappy looking little restaurant, the restaurant a pezzria
Speaker 1: as they were everywhere, and you're like, this food is
Speaker 1: not gonna be good, and then you get it and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my gosh, that was the best spaghetti
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my entire life. Um As, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you can attest too, because you were in Positano. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, man, everything so so good. I love
Speaker 1: Italy like we definitely. I think I talked about this
Speaker 1: last time I was on the podcast, but Caylin and
Speaker 1: I are really strongly considering, like when we move abroad,
Speaker 1: to to consider living in Italy for like six months.
Speaker 1: It's just so beautiful there, just like a nice little
Speaker 1: way of living. You say, move abroad, Yeah, Kyle and
Speaker 1: I we've talked about this before. Caylin and I have
Speaker 1: always wanted to live. Are serious, Yeah, oh dead serious.
Speaker 1: We've decided. We agreed mutually when Pappy dies is when
Speaker 1: we'll finally move abroad. So don't put that thought into
Speaker 1: my head. I'm like emotionally wrecked now thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Pappy's dying soon. He's like, what we keep
Speaker 1: taking We keep taking him the doctors because he keeps
Speaker 1: at acting like really strange, and every doctor like diagnoses him.
Speaker 1: It's actually a very concerned Well. He said that him
Speaker 1: and Kaylin are going to move abroad when Peppy dies,
Speaker 1: and he thinks that Peppy might you know, Pep, it
Speaker 1: might happen sooner rather than later. I know, I'm more
Speaker 1: concerned about Pappy than the house. But he's Pepp He's
Speaker 1: got many good years. Pappy's twelve. He was just diagnosed
Speaker 1: at dementia. Uh, and I don't mean to laugh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a dogge has dementia. It's funny. Well, the poor thing,
Speaker 1: Peppi's got dementia. He's got dementia. He's got like a
Speaker 1: brain tumor. He's got a heart murmur. He's got all
Speaker 1: these issues. So all Pappy, he's the sweetest soul ever.
Speaker 1: He's gonna die soon, and uh, you know, we're hoping
Speaker 1: to give him a good couple last months, years, whatever
Speaker 1: it takes. But once that happens, we want to live
Speaker 1: in Italy. We maybe want to try to liveing in Japan.
Speaker 1: We want to try to live in South America. UM.
Speaker 1: I know it's not as easy as you saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to go try living these places. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of like hoops you have to jump through, but uh,
Speaker 1: for like short term live I think we could just
Speaker 1: do like two three month stints in each of those places.
Speaker 1: And Italy is high up on the list. Now we
Speaker 1: loved at least so much. But but yeah, I got
Speaker 1: back from Italy and flew straight to Alaska and started
Speaker 1: Scott Having Alaska. And it was crazy Scott having Alaska
Speaker 1: because we you know, we were Scott having just outside
Speaker 1: of the d Nali National Park. You can't Scott in
Speaker 1: the actual national park. Um. But the people that were
Speaker 1: like flying us up and like taking us to altitude
Speaker 1: and like the lodge that we were landing at, I
Speaker 1: like asked and the guy was like, yeah, like I've
Speaker 1: lived here for you know, thirty five years, and I've
Speaker 1: never seen anyone skydive here. So like in our heads
Speaker 1: were like, we're the first people to ever skydive in
Speaker 1: this area, which is like super cool to think about.
Speaker 1: It's also quite terrifying to think about. Yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: it's for a reason. I had my closest near death experience.
Speaker 1: The first day we were out there, I like slipped
Speaker 1: off the airplane as I was calling out the door, uh,
Speaker 1: and my head was like six inches away from smacking
Speaker 1: the tail of the airplane, which would have probably like
Speaker 1: ripped my head off, and it probably would have killed
Speaker 1: the pilot too, because like you know, he wouldn't had
Speaker 1: had a tail on the airplane anymore. So that was
Speaker 1: pretty terrifying. Um. Colombia, Uh, they were like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: have this new uh gear we want you to like
Speaker 1: do a sponsored post with and I was like, perfect,
Speaker 1: I'll wear it in Alaska. And so I like was
Speaker 1: head to toe in this Columbia gear and it's so cold. Um,
Speaker 1: when you're skydiving Alaska. Obviously we're like like ten thousand
Speaker 1: feet and the air temperature was like five degrees, but
Speaker 1: then with the windshill it got down to like minus
Speaker 1: fifteen degrees, and UM, it's just it's such a brutal
Speaker 1: thing because it's like you're, you know, you're about to
Speaker 1: jump out of an airplane and you're like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure like I can pull the
Speaker 1: things I need to pull, Like I can't really feel
Speaker 1: my fingers, so you like jump, you pull your parachute
Speaker 1: and then you're just in the air for another probably
Speaker 1: three or four minutes. As you float down to the ground,
Speaker 1: and it's like your fingers start to freeze and like
Speaker 1: it just becomes like unbearably cold. Um. But it was
Speaker 1: a great experience. And if anyone is everything about Scott
Speaker 1: having Alaska, I don't know why you would be thinking
Speaker 1: about that, but I highly recommend it. So what is
Speaker 1: it about Alaska that makes it so appealing? Seeing how
Speaker 1: you're freezing to death while plummeting towards their earth. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just I think it's one of those things like
Speaker 1: human nature. To be the first people to do something
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. I'm sure people have sky dive there before,
Speaker 1: maybe like around the area, but like, you know, to
Speaker 1: be one of the few people that have done it,
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Um. And just like the view, so
Speaker 1: like you're you know, you're basically right above the NWY
Speaker 1: National Park and now he is the tallest mountain north America.
Speaker 1: So it's like just stunning views and there's like a
Speaker 1: beautiful blue alpine lake right below you. It's funny actually
Speaker 1: one of the second jump. So the first jump, I
Speaker 1: almost died because I slipped off the airplane. Terrifying. When
Speaker 1: he slipped off the airplane, you just like casually say
Speaker 1: these things and you're like, yeah, I was slipped out
Speaker 1: of the airplane. It was nothing. I was ten thousand
Speaker 1: feet and I tripped, I said, I shared that. I
Speaker 1: guess my WiFi must have cut out at this point.
Speaker 1: It was the closest I've ever been to dying. I
Speaker 1: was crawling out of the airplane. You know, there are
Speaker 1: planes like ninety miles an hour or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and we were trying to get the door. He was
Speaker 1: trying to get more open pretty slow, right, that's so slow.
Speaker 1: A commercial airline goes like five miles per hour. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just like a little cessna. So it's just like
Speaker 1: hanging on its last limb. It's the Poppies of planes,
Speaker 1: all right. It's the plane has dementia to um. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the pilot goes as slow as you possibly
Speaker 1: can to like make it like do a bolt to
Speaker 1: get out there, but like you can't go much slower
Speaker 1: than that. Otherwise the plane with stall and I was
Speaker 1: getting out of the door, and I couldn't get the
Speaker 1: door open because it was so windy, and as I
Speaker 1: was crawling out, the door like shut on me, and
Speaker 1: I like slipped off the airplane and I fell backwards
Speaker 1: off the airplane and I almost hit the tail of
Speaker 1: their airplane going ninety mile, so like my head missed
Speaker 1: it by like six inches, and like if I had
Speaker 1: hit it, I would have probably got de capitated and
Speaker 1: the and the pilot would have died too, because like
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have had a tail on the airplane. So
Speaker 1: very close to killing myself there. Fortunately I escaped that injury. Um.
Speaker 1: But the second jump, uh, that was the same day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So later that day I did a second jump and
Speaker 1: we took the door off, so I was able to
Speaker 1: get out of everything easily. But I had this this
Speaker 1: camera mount on my helmet that like it's like a
Speaker 1: six inch stick with the camera on top of it,
Speaker 1: just to like add a little bit better perspective. And
Speaker 1: as I opened up my parachute, the the lines are
Speaker 1: like the thing the parachute that's connected to me like
Speaker 1: wrapped around the camera, and so it like ripped the
Speaker 1: camera off my head, which I'm very fortunate ripped off
Speaker 1: rather than like getting fully tangled, because that would be
Speaker 1: really bad. But they ripped the camera off my head
Speaker 1: and then, uh the camera felt seven thousand feet down
Speaker 1: to the ground and didn't wrap around your neck. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't wrap around the neck, but it like it
Speaker 1: is like a pretty pretty scary snag point. Um, I
Speaker 1: got lucky that I didn't just like wrap around and
Speaker 1: stay there. You know, how does Kalin feel about all this?
Speaker 1: There's no way she's okay with it. There's no way.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like a blissal ignorance, you know,
Speaker 1: like I kind of tell her the things that she
Speaker 1: needs to know and I kind of keep the scary
Speaker 1: stuff out of it most of the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: have you told her these stories? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I've actually got a picture too though. All uh, I
Speaker 1: was gonna post the TikTok because the first time and
Speaker 1: I almost killed myself. I hauled the camera so you
Speaker 1: can see very clearly like what happened. Um, but yeah, she,
Speaker 1: you know, she she she knows what I like it,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what she is okay with. She
Speaker 1: says that if I'm having fun, that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: Are you having fun? Are these need near dear near
Speaker 1: death experience is fun? I mean I can understand obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, jumping out of planes and skydiving and doing
Speaker 1: all that in the adrenaline rush. But like when you're
Speaker 1: talking about, yeah, we're gonna be the first people ever
Speaker 1: jumping out of a plane going ninety miles per hour
Speaker 1: over Alaska when it's zero degrees outside. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: the door because it's so windy, the door slammed on me.
Speaker 1: I fell outside almost decapitated myself. It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: there's a line. There's a line, and I think you're
Speaker 1: stepping over at my friend. That's pretty cool though, Like
Speaker 1: that you summarize that really well, and I think I'm
Speaker 1: even more excited after hearing you summarize it. Um what
Speaker 1: So the guys that I was with two they want
Speaker 1: to go back next summer over they want to fly
Speaker 1: helicopter over Dnally and like wingsuit down the side of
Speaker 1: Dnally and then land in the area where is in Alaska.
Speaker 1: Dnale is the tallest mount in North America? Got it? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: clarifying I was never very good. Uh yeah, that's well.
Speaker 1: Now you'll know that answer whenever you get it. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope it's a clue tonight. Yeah, yeah, Y'll be
Speaker 1: ready for it. Yeah. Um. I will say though, while
Speaker 1: I was, I'm always terrified. Every time before I skied,
Speaker 1: I have like terrified, and this time, for some reason,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I think I was because I was so
Speaker 1: cold and because it was so beautiful out there, So
Speaker 1: I wasn't as scared this time, even though I almost
Speaker 1: killed myself. But that's fine, but I didn't, So it's okay.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how the hell the segway out
Speaker 1: of this one. Um. Well, we we do have some
Speaker 1: hot topics coming up, uh celebrity hot gossips. Not about
Speaker 1: Dean Decapitate decapitating himself. We have a bachelor relationship that
Speaker 1: unfortunately ended again uh this week. Uh you know, Uh, well,
Speaker 1: I'll tease it. I'll tease it afterwards in case you
Speaker 1: guys don't know. There was a bachelor relationship, a high
Speaker 1: profile one that did end this week and they broke up.
Speaker 1: They've broken up before, unfortunately. We also have some tea
Speaker 1: about Will Smith being in an open relationship, which I
Speaker 1: feel like I've heard rumors about that for ten years,
Speaker 1: that Will Smith and Jada Pickett Smith are in an
Speaker 1: open relationship, but now apparently he has confirmed it. We
Speaker 1: also have some more hot topics about Jennifer Anderston, who
Speaker 1: we know is a big Bachelor fan. Uh, talking about
Speaker 1: getting back into the dating world. So make sure you
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. We're going to get into it
Speaker 1: after the small brain. All right, welcome back to help
Speaker 1: I second dating. As I t s prior to our
Speaker 1: break there was a bachelor relationship that did come to
Speaker 1: an end once again. And I say once again because
Speaker 1: they've broken up before and now they broke up again
Speaker 1: Dale Moss and Claire Crawley and did their relationship and quote,
Speaker 1: it's for good this time. So I'll give you a
Speaker 1: little bit of a synopsis. Is that what you're asking for? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, catch me up to speak. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go. So the bachelorettes Dale Moss and Claire Crawley,
Speaker 1: of course have split up once again, and apparently it's
Speaker 1: for good this time. So back in January, the couple
Speaker 1: who met, of course on ABC's sixteenth season of the
Speaker 1: Bachelorette before Tasha took over, broke off their engagement after
Speaker 1: a world win of a romance now. A source told
Speaker 1: the Page six article, which is what I'm reading from
Speaker 1: that at the time, that the pair couldn't agree on
Speaker 1: some major issues like which state to live in and
Speaker 1: how soon to start having kids. Do you remember that,
Speaker 1: Dean when she on National TV and Chris was interviewing
Speaker 1: Dale and Claire, and then Chris was like, so, what's
Speaker 1: next for you guys, and She's like, babies, babies, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember. So I'm curious if he was just like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's hold off for a couple of years, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I want kids now, which I I don't blame Claire honestly,
Speaker 1: She's I feel like, been pretty much upfront, UH this
Speaker 1: entire time with all of her relationships throughout her time
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor, which has been I want kids. I
Speaker 1: want a family immediately now. So if you're gonna date me,
Speaker 1: you better be ready for it too. So I actually
Speaker 1: don't blame her in that aspect, even if she kind
Speaker 1: of was a little eager in that moment. So I
Speaker 1: I digress. The former NFL player Dale, I wonder which
Speaker 1: team he played for? Uh said he did not play
Speaker 1: for the NFL, did he really? I don't know it
Speaker 1: says here that the former NFL player, I think he
Speaker 1: might have been a practice squad guy. I don't want
Speaker 1: to like say he was practice squad. If he actually
Speaker 1: made the team, who knows. But anyway, Dale said at
Speaker 1: the time, building a relationship in general is tough, especially
Speaker 1: when you're doing it in the public eye, and the
Speaker 1: media will take things and run with them. People will
Speaker 1: spread lies or always want to point the finger. But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is there's no one person
Speaker 1: to blame in this situation. But by February, of course
Speaker 1: we all know they reconciled and were spotted together in Venice, Florida.
Speaker 1: They were soon seen smooch in in New York, and
Speaker 1: by April Dale told the Hollywood Podcast that he and
Speaker 1: Claire were in a good play. I remember that because
Speaker 1: he didn't confirm if they were dating or not. He said,
Speaker 1: we're definitely taking time and spending time together. But the
Speaker 1: Insider on Monday apparently said that Dale and Claire have
Speaker 1: split again. This time it's good. It did not end well?
Speaker 1: Uh so are I mean? My first question, Dean, are
Speaker 1: you shocked by this news? I? I am shocked. I Well,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? Well? I got there.
Speaker 1: My thoughts, I I guess I'm shocked about how quickly
Speaker 1: it ended, because you know they when was her season
Speaker 1: when they start, so last October September somewhere around there,
Speaker 1: I believe. Okay, Ashley the Bachelor informant told me that
Speaker 1: she they were engaged in August, so I'm maybe the
Speaker 1: dating for a couple of months ended in February, got
Speaker 1: back together and have been dating for a couple of
Speaker 1: months ever since. So you would imagine that after the
Speaker 1: first break up, if they got back together, especially being
Speaker 1: in the public eye like Dale talks about, they'd have
Speaker 1: a little bit stronger ever found nation and have a
Speaker 1: pretty good idea that they want to move forward with
Speaker 1: this and kind of take you know, some time and
Speaker 1: really figure out, I don't know, really invest in this relationship.
Speaker 1: And I guess after a couple of months, I just
Speaker 1: figured that it's not going to work out. I do
Speaker 1: feel bad for Claire Claire as her friend, she's a
Speaker 1: really good person. I like Claire a lot, uh you
Speaker 1: know I I I want her to find a man.
Speaker 1: I both Ashley and I were very excited when she
Speaker 1: became the bachelorette. You know, she's been through this thing
Speaker 1: a few times. We've kind of grown with Claire Crawley
Speaker 1: a little bit, from her time talking, you know, on
Speaker 1: Juan Pablo to talking to the raccoon on Paradise to
Speaker 1: ultimately becoming the bachelorette. So I think we're very hopeful
Speaker 1: that she was going to find her man, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: it doesn't appear that that's the case. So hopefully she
Speaker 1: just finds a guy outside the Bachelor, That's what I
Speaker 1: really hope. I'll tell you exactly what happened. I I
Speaker 1: I appreciate you divulging all that because it gave me
Speaker 1: time to collect my thoughts anytime. I know exactly, I
Speaker 1: know exactly what happened. This is what happened everyone, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak very matter of factly because that's just
Speaker 1: how confident I am in this assessment that I'm about
Speaker 1: to make. So they Dale and Claire got engaged after that,
Speaker 1: like incredibly abbreviated amount of time on the show, right,
Speaker 1: Like everyone was like, wow, crazy Claire blew up the
Speaker 1: show for Dale. Whatever. That's crazy in and of itself,
Speaker 1: But Dale, I feel like was never fully invested in
Speaker 1: the relationship. That's why they broke up. Once they broke up,
Speaker 1: Dale started to see the backlash that he was receiving.
Speaker 1: And Dale, Uh, he's not an idiot, you know, like
Speaker 1: he very bad press, like very bad pr I think
Speaker 1: he wants to get into hosting and all this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And it's like, what that kind of negative
Speaker 1: press around to you. You're not gonna get any of
Speaker 1: those jobs, you know what I mean. So he starts
Speaker 1: to see all this backlash he's receiving, and so what's
Speaker 1: his response. He wants to then get back together with
Speaker 1: Claire because he knows that with Claire he can achieve
Speaker 1: his professional goals a lot easier. So he gets back
Speaker 1: together with Claire. The script starts to turn around back
Speaker 1: and people start to like like Dale a little bit more.
Speaker 1: He starts to see more like brand opportunities come through
Speaker 1: as as it's I mean, that's there's not dying, that's
Speaker 1: definitely the truth. Uh, And then you know, they started
Speaker 1: getting to other again, and Dale starts to remember like
Speaker 1: why they broke up the first time and how incompatible
Speaker 1: they are, and he's already kind of saved face in
Speaker 1: the eyes of everyone else out there, and so he's like, Okay, cool, like,
Speaker 1: you know, there now we can break up and there's
Speaker 1: gonna to be no bad blood because it's like we
Speaker 1: got back together. We tried, and we were together for
Speaker 1: a little bit longer. So it was it was a
Speaker 1: pr move from Dale to be able to find a
Speaker 1: career in hosting whatever it is. That's that's my assessment.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I love your take because of how
Speaker 1: dramatic it is. Uh, it's like this, it's just so true.
Speaker 1: I know it. I know it to be true, and
Speaker 1: I will not accept anything else. And I like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a first very strange hills I'll die on. Um,
Speaker 1: this is one of those strange hills. What's another deal?
Speaker 1: A dell Holely crap, what's another deal? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: let me collect my thoughts. People, what's another hill that
Speaker 1: you would die on? Um? It's I can't rattle off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, I think. But you know,
Speaker 1: I get weirdly passionate about certain things. How you do
Speaker 1: I love it Things that don't matter in the slightest,
Speaker 1: things that I have no bearing on, that have no
Speaker 1: bearing on me as an individual. Should I even uh
Speaker 1: say what I think about this situation? Because it's definitely
Speaker 1: not as cool as yours. Yeah, please, I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear it. It's definitely not as dramatic. I think that
Speaker 1: Dale listen, he went on the show to possibly find love,
Speaker 1: but he went on the show for a business opportunity
Speaker 1: as well, and I think he wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: experience the Bachelor. You know, I have fame or experience
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Um not to say like,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of people that go
Speaker 1: in with, you know, wanting to experience different things. And
Speaker 1: I think Dale met Claire, liked Claire, and I think
Speaker 1: Claire fell head over heels for Dale and was all
Speaker 1: in from day one and didn't want anybody else. And
Speaker 1: Dale was like, okay, I like you, let's take it slow,
Speaker 1: and Claire did not want to take it slow. And
Speaker 1: so I think ever since then, it's been this battle.
Speaker 1: If I had a guess of Claire wanting to move
Speaker 1: move forward and move quickly and be like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: all in on you. Are you all in on me?
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, yeah, I think I like And
Speaker 1: then he keeps going back and forth, back and forth,
Speaker 1: back and forth, trying to slow play it, and I
Speaker 1: think it probably just came to a head recently where
Speaker 1: Claire was like, you're either in or you're out, and
Speaker 1: he was probably out. That's my gut, that's what my
Speaker 1: gut tells me. Well, and that's what That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. He went on the show as
Speaker 1: to maybe find love, which we all do. Like there's
Speaker 1: there's no denying that. There's like business opportunities that come
Speaker 1: from it, but like if you fall in love also fantastic, right,
Speaker 1: Like there's no shame in that. Um. I I would
Speaker 1: bet a million dollars that I don't have that if
Speaker 1: Dale was the Bachelor and Claire was on his season,
Speaker 1: she would never have made it to his final one.
Speaker 1: You know, really, I just don't. I Like you said,
Speaker 1: I think Claire was all in head over heels with Dale.
Speaker 1: Dale was kind of just like so you think he
Speaker 1: would have left the show early. No, I think that
Speaker 1: if Dale was the Bachelor and Claire was a intestint
Speaker 1: on his season, he would not have chosen her at
Speaker 1: the end. It would have been some other girl. I agree.
Speaker 1: I also will go one step further. I bet that
Speaker 1: if Claire had an entire season, Dale might have removed
Speaker 1: himself because he wasn't as invested in the relationship with
Speaker 1: Claire as Claire was with him. That's my gut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good that's an interesting take to he never
Speaker 1: really had that chance to because the season was abbreviated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I don't really blame either party in this.
Speaker 1: I truly don't. I know people are just gonna immediately
Speaker 1: put the blame on Dale. I don't think it's entirely
Speaker 1: his fault. And now, granted this is speaking for someone
Speaker 1: who's thirty thousand feet away, but I think he was
Speaker 1: someone who you see all the time in everyday life,
Speaker 1: whereas one person is more invested in the relationship than
Speaker 1: the other and then kind of slow play. And it
Speaker 1: was only a few months. It wasn't like this was
Speaker 1: a relationship to less than eight years. So listen, if
Speaker 1: this kept going and going and going, I totally agree,
Speaker 1: it's like Dai either should or get off the pot.
Speaker 1: But you know, they were just kind of going back
Speaker 1: and forth. So I think it's probably best that they
Speaker 1: just go in their different directions. And I really hope
Speaker 1: that Claire meets a very nice guy. I think she
Speaker 1: needs a guy. I've always envision Claire with a guy
Speaker 1: who's like rugged in his forties, like ready to go,
Speaker 1: ready to settle down, get married, Like that's the type
Speaker 1: of person I think Claire, I hope find Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think again, I don't, like you said, we're thirty
Speaker 1: thou feet away from it, So what the heck do
Speaker 1: we know? But that's what we do. We speculate, right,
Speaker 1: So I I agree with you. I I don't think that. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think that Dale is ready for a relationship
Speaker 1: like that. And I mean, you can't blame the guy either.
Speaker 1: You know, you go on the show. He's incredibly handsome,
Speaker 1: uh tall, charismatic, good look, good looking smile. So you know,
Speaker 1: you go on the show, you you achieve a certain
Speaker 1: level of like recognition for being on that show, and
Speaker 1: you want to kind of like soak it up a
Speaker 1: little bit and enjoy yourself. And uh, if you're not
Speaker 1: like super crazy about the person that you're with at
Speaker 1: the time, it kind of like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: reasons for you to be like, well, maybe we should
Speaker 1: break up then, because it's like if you're not all
Speaker 1: in on the relationship, then you know, if there's a
Speaker 1: lot of temptations. What I do blame Dale is proposing, bro,
Speaker 1: if you're not all in, Like, I know, it's a
Speaker 1: show and it's a format, and you probably felt a
Speaker 1: pressure to propose, but come on, like, if you're not
Speaker 1: all in, don't propose, bro. For sure, they wanted him to,
Speaker 1: They probably like he probably didn't want to, and then
Speaker 1: the producers probably were like, you should do it, and
Speaker 1: then eventually I think he would just should have done
Speaker 1: it even if they were like, yeah, why don't you
Speaker 1: just do it? Try it out, see what happens, because
Speaker 1: then because then you're really misleading Claire, I fully agree. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I can share this. I so I don't
Speaker 1: know if you watch Bachelor in Paradise last week, but
Speaker 1: Caitlin and I were in the teaser for the funal Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think I could share this out and
Speaker 1: see why wouldn't be able to. When we were down there,
Speaker 1: the producers were like they like pulled me aside and
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, Dean, you should really you should
Speaker 1: totally propose to Caylin. And the last day of the show,
Speaker 1: my god, I was like, are you serious, Like you're
Speaker 1: telling me this like literally the day before we're supposed
Speaker 1: to go down in like film this episode, and so
Speaker 1: I guess all that to say that, you know, the
Speaker 1: producers are not bashful when it comes to trying to
Speaker 1: encourage people to propose. Of course, I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: would assume otherwise wouldn't be very good TV if they weren't.
Speaker 1: But you should have just showed your off your wedding
Speaker 1: ring and be like, wait, talking about we're already married guys,
Speaker 1: right right? Well, yeah, I mean maybe you have to
Speaker 1: tune and find out maybe we uh maybe I do
Speaker 1: actually do it. But I guess that's that's my point is,
Speaker 1: you know, Dale is definitely getting a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on the outside. There we go Tuesday Night, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see Kaylin and Dean tie the knot nice
Speaker 1: little teaser for you. Tune in, you might see it,
Speaker 1: you might see something else. Who knows. All I know
Speaker 1: is it's gonna be good television. Uh I love it?
Speaker 1: Uh so are Our next hot topic is, of course,
Speaker 1: like I tease about Will Smith, who just revealed that
Speaker 1: he has an extramarital relationship where apparently Jada wasn't the
Speaker 1: only one. I feel like I've heard this for years
Speaker 1: that Will Smith and Jada Pickett Smith have had an
Speaker 1: open relationship. I guess now it's just being confirmed. According
Speaker 1: into this Yahoo article, Yeah who, it's always fun to say.
Speaker 1: Fans of the Smith's have wondered for some time, like
Speaker 1: myself if Will Smith has cheated on Jada Pickett Smith
Speaker 1: in the past. I don't know if I wondered that,
Speaker 1: but I did about the open relationship. While according to
Speaker 1: Will himself, his wife is quote not the only one
Speaker 1: who has had an extra marital relationship. Will Smith confirmed
Speaker 1: that he and Jada Pickett Smith have an open relationship
Speaker 1: and admitted she's never believed in a conventional marriage. As
Speaker 1: a refresh, Jade, Jada, excuse me and Will previously appeared
Speaker 1: on a bombshell episode of The Red Table Talk Back
Speaker 1: in July of last year to discuss allegations made by
Speaker 1: rapper August oh Boy Alcina I think that's say, who
Speaker 1: claimed that he had a relationship with the fifth year
Speaker 1: old girl Trapped star Jada Pickett Smith. According to August,
Speaker 1: the rapper, Will Smith even gave him his blessing to
Speaker 1: continue the relationship for years. While rets for the Smith's
Speaker 1: initially denied August's claims. The couple eventually went on to
Speaker 1: confirm the story themselves. During their Red Table Talk episode,
Speaker 1: Will and Jada revealed that the relationship took place during
Speaker 1: a period of separation during their marriage. Now just over
Speaker 1: a year since the couple, the couple addressed the extramarital relationship,
Speaker 1: Will Smith that Will Smith has confirmed that his wife
Speaker 1: was not the only one to have a relationship with
Speaker 1: someone else during their twenty three year marriage. Quote. The
Speaker 1: public has a narrative that is immpeturable, impenetrable. This rhode
Speaker 1: island education in penturable? Am I saying that right? I
Speaker 1: am pe n E t R A b l E
Speaker 1: like you can't penetrate it. Impenetrable, impenetrable, impenetrable. Well that's
Speaker 1: a difficult world. I'm also exhausted. I need some water anyway.
Speaker 1: Will want to say the public has a narrative that
Speaker 1: is impeneturable. Well, it's the public decides something. It's difficult
Speaker 1: to it's difficult to it's difficult to impossible. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: difficult to impossible to dislodge the pictures and ideas and perceptions.
Speaker 1: Uh So he goes on to talk about this Jada
Speaker 1: had family members that had an unconventional relationship, so she
Speaker 1: grew up in a way that was very different than
Speaker 1: how I grow up. There was a significant you know,
Speaker 1: there's been significant discussions about it. Point is that they
Speaker 1: have had an open relationship and monogamy was what they chose.
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, what do you think about I guess
Speaker 1: I want to know what your thoughts in general are
Speaker 1: about open relationships. Well, I don't think that we can
Speaker 1: use Will and Jada Pinkett Smith as examples for an
Speaker 1: open relationship because they're beautiful, wealthy people, you know, like
Speaker 1: they are. They can't really be the standard for that
Speaker 1: stuff just because their lives are so much different than us. Know.
Speaker 1: But open relationships, man, that's gonna be tough. I've never
Speaker 1: personally been in one. Um, I if it works for
Speaker 1: it works for you, I would I'm inclined to say
Speaker 1: that like open relationships. I would imagine like one person
Speaker 1: wants to have the open relationship and the other person
Speaker 1: just as like agreeing with it. Yeah, and so I
Speaker 1: always I always feel like one person wants it more
Speaker 1: and that imbalance is never a really good thing. Um.
Speaker 1: But if it works, man, I like, but that's the
Speaker 1: thing too. It's like Will and Jada Pinkett Smith, like
Speaker 1: you know, Will Fresh Prince of bel A or like,
Speaker 1: come on, this guy, if you wanted to, like he could,
Speaker 1: like you know, he's not like he wouldn't have a
Speaker 1: hard time like finding he's Will Smith. He'd be fine,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, if
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I guess my brand is a
Speaker 1: little fuzzy right now, but like it's a little different
Speaker 1: for them just because they have a lot more access
Speaker 1: to other people than a normal person would. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I don't get open relationships. I mean, if you can
Speaker 1: do it, if you're able to handle it and handle
Speaker 1: the jealousy and everything that comes with it, good for you,
Speaker 1: because it is tough. I mean, you know, Ashley and
Speaker 1: I have been married. I see her I and other guys. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't actually, But the point is, of course, like
Speaker 1: you know, you're in a committed relationship, especially for someone
Speaker 1: like Will Smith and Jada Pickett Smith who have been
Speaker 1: married for twenty three years. I'm sure there have been temptations.
Speaker 1: You know, we're just human beings at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. But it's what you do with those temptations
Speaker 1: that really decides what type of person you are. So
Speaker 1: having an open relationship with open communication is something that
Speaker 1: I can at least wrap my head around, but I
Speaker 1: don't think i'd ever be able to do it because
Speaker 1: the jealousy factor would would be huge. You know, Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not an overly jealous guy. But then if you're
Speaker 1: talking about someone being intimate with my wife, then that's
Speaker 1: something I don't think I would just be able to handle. Um.
Speaker 1: Ashley goes, what about me right now? Because she's very pimplee,
Speaker 1: which is okay, that's I love your pimplee face. It's
Speaker 1: not even that pimple It's fine, But I digress. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I just I don't think I could do it,
Speaker 1: like you know, obviously we talked about what's the relationship
Speaker 1: called when you have three people? Thruble, thruple, thank you.
Speaker 1: So even thrumples, you know, is somewhat of a committed relationship.
Speaker 1: You're just committed with three people instead of two, or
Speaker 1: you're committed with two people instead of just one other.
Speaker 1: But an open relationship, I mean that just opened so
Speaker 1: many doors. For lack of a better phrase, that I'm
Speaker 1: not sure i'd be able to walk through. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on the same boat too, Like to think
Speaker 1: about someone hooking up with the person that I love,
Speaker 1: it was like kind of it's like a punch in
Speaker 1: the gut, you know. Yeah, And I don't even know if,
Speaker 1: like i'd want to would you even want to meet
Speaker 1: the other person? Say, like Caitlin was like, Hey, I
Speaker 1: want to be in a relationship. There's this guy that
Speaker 1: I met that I really want to be with. Would
Speaker 1: you want to meet him? Like, would you were would
Speaker 1: you not even want to know who he is? That's
Speaker 1: a really good question. Actually, I don't know. I kind
Speaker 1: of like my blood is boiling just thinking about it.
Speaker 1: To be honest, um, I would probably be like if
Speaker 1: Caitlin was like really into the idea, I'd probably like
Speaker 1: give it a fair shot, I suppose, um, and I
Speaker 1: would probably meet the guy I guess to see to get,
Speaker 1: you know, size him up and get a feel for him.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would be able to, like, you know, like,
Speaker 1: if you're in an open relationship that would also include
Speaker 1: like you going out and looking up with people. I
Speaker 1: don't think I would be super comfortable with like doing
Speaker 1: that either like imagine like waking up in the morning
Speaker 1: next to someone that's not Ashley, you know, or like
Speaker 1: my case, Calin obviously that's just be so weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be really weird, And I don't think i'd
Speaker 1: feel too good about it even in the moment. It's
Speaker 1: like it's just you feel like a piece of crap.
Speaker 1: I don't know, even if you're on the same page,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd be able to do it.
Speaker 1: But here's a good question for you, Dean. What if
Speaker 1: Klin said, Hey, listen, I want to be in an
Speaker 1: open relationship and I met this girl that I want
Speaker 1: to bring in, I would still be weirded out by it,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I think I've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: I've like I've had one threesome in my life. Um,
Speaker 1: but I've been gratulations for, thank you, I've been propositioned
Speaker 1: for for some of those, like later in life, like
Speaker 1: in my like mid twenties. Um, like like a girl
Speaker 1: that I was like cooking up with, like let me
Speaker 1: bring my friend in kind of thing, and every I'm
Speaker 1: like scared. I'm like, no, I'm not, I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in that like I would be terrified a
Speaker 1: lot of expectation. I wouldn't know what to do. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, what do I do with my left hand? Well,
Speaker 1: my or my right hand? Should I just have my
Speaker 1: hands up right? Right? So I think that if Caitlin
Speaker 1: came with that idea again, I would like be interested,
Speaker 1: Like if she wanted it, I would be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess we can like see what happens. But um,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really be stoked by it, which I think
Speaker 1: is a weird thing for a guy to say. But yeah,
Speaker 1: what what would you think? No, I mean like, initially
Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, my gut raction be like that's interesting.
Speaker 1: But I really think when I put more thought to it,
Speaker 1: I I don't think i'd want to do it, because again,
Speaker 1: it's just introducing so many, um not red flags, but
Speaker 1: so many conversations that I just don't feel like having,
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, it's just not worth it.
Speaker 1: Let's say Ashley Walks as the Red Carpet or something
Speaker 1: like that in Hollywood meets Rachel McAdams, becomes best friends,
Speaker 1: and then as she's like, hey, Rachel McAdams wants to
Speaker 1: be a throuble with us. What do you think I mean,
Speaker 1: now you're throwing Rachel McAdams at me, bro. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a little there. I think even Ashley would agree.
Speaker 1: That's a little different. You know. That's that's fantasy land
Speaker 1: right there. But no, no no, no, no, no, no, the answers, no,
Speaker 1: the answers. No. Okay, that's it. It's just me and
Speaker 1: her for the rest of our days. That's right, Ashley, Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: she said, yeah, all right, last hot topic before we
Speaker 1: go into a break, just to address it quickly because
Speaker 1: we talked about it before the break. Jennifer Anderston wants
Speaker 1: to start dating. I didn't even know she took a
Speaker 1: break from dating. Quote. I think I'm ready to share
Speaker 1: myself with another. So the Morning Show Star stopped by
Speaker 1: Sirius XM's Lunch with Bruce podcast. I don't know who
Speaker 1: that is, but it must be pretty big if Jennifer
Speaker 1: Anderson is on it. Maybe it's a Bruce Uh, what's
Speaker 1: the guy's name, spring star Willis? Bruce Willis? Is it
Speaker 1: Bruce Willis? No? I don't think so, but that would
Speaker 1: be pretty cool if Bruce Willis had a podcast. He's
Speaker 1: not much of a talker. I feel like they dated
Speaker 1: for a brief. Olm it on that show Friends that
Speaker 1: she was on. Oh my god, that's right. I totally
Speaker 1: forgot about that. Wow, let's bringing back memories. I forgot
Speaker 1: that Bruce Wilson was on Friends. Um anyway, while I
Speaker 1: get lost in thought, uh so where am i? Jennifer
Speaker 1: Anderson opened up about her love life. She announced obviously
Speaker 1: her split from ex husband justin throw back in two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. She's still single, but she's open to love. Quote,
Speaker 1: there hasn't been time to date, and it's covid um.
Speaker 1: Although people seem to have met and found love during
Speaker 1: covid I don't know how it works. I'm curious to
Speaker 1: walk up to those people and go so what happened?
Speaker 1: Anderson added that quote, No one of importance has hit
Speaker 1: my radar yet, but I think it's time. I think
Speaker 1: I'm ready to share myself with another I didn't want
Speaker 1: to for a long time, and I loved really being
Speaker 1: my own woman without being part of a couple. I've
Speaker 1: been part of a couple since I was twenties, so
Speaker 1: there was something really nice about taking the time. No
Speaker 1: Tinders and no Riyah please, I'm an old school girl. Uh,
Speaker 1: people don't come up to people anymore. People don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's weird. She went on to say, Uh, she talked
Speaker 1: about how important a good first kisses. Uh. She goes
Speaker 1: on quote she Oh, she also talks about how important
Speaker 1: conversation flow is. That's a good indicator whether it's going
Speaker 1: to be um a funny and healthy relationship. She talks
Speaker 1: about how she wants a guy who's not cocky, but
Speaker 1: he's funny, be generous, kind to people. So she's fifty
Speaker 1: two years old. Uh, there's never too late of a
Speaker 1: time to date, especially at fifty two. Plus she looks
Speaker 1: like she's thirty seven. I mean, the woman only gets
Speaker 1: better with age. It's crazy, but Dean, let me ask
Speaker 1: you hypothetically, Let's play in a fantasy world that in
Speaker 1: twenty years you end up being single. Kalen couldn't take
Speaker 1: your skydiving adventures anymore. She needed something different. So you're
Speaker 1: fifty two years old, you get back into the dating world.
Speaker 1: Do you think it would be super intimidating? I would
Speaker 1: only I don't even know what i'd you, dude, I've
Speaker 1: been I've been out of the game for two years,
Speaker 1: and I think you'd be intimidating. If I, like, if
Speaker 1: Caylen broke up with me tomorrow and I had to
Speaker 1: do it, I'd be like, I would be so overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: I thought that Jennifer Anderson was dating David Swimmer again
Speaker 1: or something. Now there was there was that friends reunion
Speaker 1: and apparently there was talks that they hung out during
Speaker 1: filming or after filming. Hey, ash, when did David him
Speaker 1: Swimmer and Jennifer Anderson? Did they ever have a thing?
Speaker 1: I probably didn't have a thing. So m Barently people
Speaker 1: thought they were together, but they're not together. That's that
Speaker 1: mumber has been debunked here on help us like a
Speaker 1: dating Yeah, I mean that's gotta be tough though, to
Speaker 1: get back into the dating pool um after being out
Speaker 1: of it for so long. But at the same time too,
Speaker 1: like there is a lot of niceties about it, Like
Speaker 1: Jennifer was saying, you know, she had the chance to
Speaker 1: she has a chance to like be herself and do
Speaker 1: whatever she wants to now. And you know, once you
Speaker 1: reach a certain like age, I suppose you're just like
Speaker 1: you know exactly who you are, you know exactly what
Speaker 1: you want, you need, and so I think once you
Speaker 1: get a lot of like the nuances of dating out
Speaker 1: of it. Like you know, when you're dating when you're eighteen,
Speaker 1: you just don't really know what the heck you're doing.
Speaker 1: But that part it's gotta be kind of nice. You know.
Speaker 1: You can be like direct, you can be forward, you
Speaker 1: can clearly state what you like what you dislike. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, Jennifer, I feel like there's
Speaker 1: this thing with Jennifer Andiston and then a lot of
Speaker 1: the celebrities too, Like it's funny, we were just talking
Speaker 1: about the Will Smith thing, um. And while I do
Speaker 1: think they have access to a lot to meeting a
Speaker 1: lot of people, I bet you there's like a lot
Speaker 1: of fear for people, like you know, to just approach
Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston and be like, hey, like, you're really pretty,
Speaker 1: canna be go on a date? Like I'm sure that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen as much as we think it does, because
Speaker 1: could you imagine going up to Jennifer Anderson and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: dude and trying to flirt with him. I remember Night
Speaker 1: one having to go up to Caitlin and Britt and
Speaker 1: seeing them on the previous season of the Bachelor. They
Speaker 1: were celebrities to me, I was like, oh, I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to flirt with I'm supposed to be the one who's
Speaker 1: hitting on these girls. Are you out of your mind?
Speaker 1: I'm terrified. What's what's Britt doing that? Do you know?
Speaker 1: She actually from what I remember, she got back together
Speaker 1: with her boyfriend prior to the show and they're I
Speaker 1: think they're married and have kids now, and she's doing
Speaker 1: really well. I think, well, yeah, I know, very happy
Speaker 1: for her. And then obviously Caitlin is okay. So man,
Speaker 1: I we really just need Ashley. You know how they
Speaker 1: have fact checkers. We need Ashley needs to be our
Speaker 1: fact checker for help. I second dating because she knows
Speaker 1: like around the Horn or something like that. There's that
Speaker 1: ESPN show where after every episode they talked about about
Speaker 1: what they did wrong. Yeah, that could be Ashley for us.
Speaker 1: We really do need Ashley for that. So apparently Britt
Speaker 1: has been married for four years and has a daughter,
Speaker 1: so she's doing very well. But yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody goes up to Jennifer Anderson because that would
Speaker 1: be quite intimidating. I also had something, Oh I know
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, I know how to get
Speaker 1: Jennifer Anderson back into the dating world. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: clear as day. She's beautiful, she's ready to find love,
Speaker 1: she's ready to find her husband. She's a huge Bachelor fan.
Speaker 1: I mean, ladies and gentlemen, coming Spring two, your new bachelorette,
Speaker 1: rachel from Friends, I mean, come on, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if they are talking about having a senior quote unquote
Speaker 1: bachelor season. Obviously fifty two is not quite senior, but hey,
Speaker 1: kick it off of the bang, that would be that
Speaker 1: would be hilariously amazing. Um, And I'm sure the ratings
Speaker 1: would be through the roofs for something like that, you
Speaker 1: know what. And it could be a little like you said,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a senior bachelor season, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: Jennifer wants to date somebody, you know, probably in his
Speaker 1: forties fifties, So I think it would be quite interesting
Speaker 1: actually if the Bachelorette kind of went a little bit older,
Speaker 1: because I mean, granted, you'd have to cat Jennifer Anderson
Speaker 1: to become the bachelorrette, which I don't think is very
Speaker 1: easy because she's, you know, one of the biggest celebrities
Speaker 1: in the world. But it would be cool to see
Speaker 1: her date other guys who were you know, older, and
Speaker 1: we had an older season. It wouldn't be as dramatic, obviously,
Speaker 1: because the cattiness wouldn't be as as you know, prevalent,
Speaker 1: But it would be pretty cool to see, you know,
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend actually is on the season and the
Speaker 1: next bachelor really ext girlfriend, Like, how how important of
Speaker 1: an ex? Very well, she was like one of the
Speaker 1: main exes. She was my girlfriend from college. I talked
Speaker 1: about her on the podcast a few times. Um, but
Speaker 1: I told the So the producers like called me and
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we're thinking about casting this person. What
Speaker 1: do you think of her? We know that you dated,
Speaker 1: you know, ten years ago. And I was like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: she's great. If she gets selected for the show, she'll
Speaker 1: either win the show or she'll be the next Bachelor
Speaker 1: at And I firmly believe that. But she's thirty one.
Speaker 1: So if she becomes Bachelor atte Claire's thirty nine, so
Speaker 1: I guess they're already kind of skied a little bit
Speaker 1: older with her. But yeah, the thirty one is a
Speaker 1: great age. Yeah, it's not fifty two by any stretch
Speaker 1: of the imagination. Are you in her name or do
Speaker 1: we want to keep this confidential for I guess, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's up to you. I mean, it's public
Speaker 1: information already. I'll I'll keep teasing it because we got
Speaker 1: a lot of time leading up to the season and
Speaker 1: I want to see if you can figure out who
Speaker 1: it is. Maybe one of the season is airing. How
Speaker 1: long did you guys date for it? Just like a
Speaker 1: year and a half because it was just like a
Speaker 1: college relationship. We did it for a year and a half,
Speaker 1: but a long time, yeah, especially at that age we
Speaker 1: were both nineteen. But yeah, she was like she was
Speaker 1: probably the second love of my life, if you will.
Speaker 1: And it's funny actually, Ca when I got cast for
Speaker 1: the first show I was on, she texted me and
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, you know, it's funny to like,
Speaker 1: could to see you moving on finally or something like that.
Speaker 1: And so then when she got cast, I like text
Speaker 1: her has like, it's funny, it's good to see you
Speaker 1: moving on, which is funny. How it like she was
Speaker 1: given me crap for going on the show. You now
Speaker 1: she's going on the show. It's kind of silly. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess, uh, it'll be funny to see that,
Speaker 1: but interesting, Well, We're gonna have to keep up today
Speaker 1: with that as the season progresses. What's really funny too,
Speaker 1: is Kylin has a good friend that's on the season
Speaker 1: as well, and uh she Kaylin is convinced that her
Speaker 1: friend will either win or become the next Bachelorrette. And
Speaker 1: so Caitlin and I have a bet going to whose
Speaker 1: whose friend is gonna go further. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun season to watch. Oh well, yeah, we gotta get
Speaker 1: names once once the season starts airing. We gotta get
Speaker 1: Kaylin's guy's name, and so we'll see how far he goes.
Speaker 1: And then once the new Bachelor season airs, will get
Speaker 1: your girl's name, and then we'll see how far she goes.
Speaker 1: Isn't it kind of weird how they they have they
Speaker 1: announced the Bachelor because we haven't even met the guy yet.
Speaker 1: It's extremely weird. Ashley and I were talking about it.
Speaker 1: Why are you announcing the women so early? And because
Speaker 1: when I first saw it, I thought, oh, this must
Speaker 1: be some sort of spoiler for the upcoming season to
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. And then I saw the pictures and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they all they all look like they've
Speaker 1: been taken in the same area that's weird. And then
Speaker 1: I found out that it was those official Bachelor photos
Speaker 1: were you know, just posted and it was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is the cast of the season and this is
Speaker 1: the official announcement. It was like, what the hell, we
Speaker 1: haven't even gotten Michelle's season yet. We haven't even gotten
Speaker 1: Michelle's season yet. And yeah, it's just so it just
Speaker 1: seems so rushed. Not rushed, but like just it definitely
Speaker 1: seems weird. It's weird. They even put on like the
Speaker 1: Bachelor Facebook page. That's how we well that's not how
Speaker 1: we found out, but um, it was just it's just
Speaker 1: weird to see that. The only thing I could think
Speaker 1: of is that they were trying to get ahead of
Speaker 1: spoilers and they're like, before anybody can even spoil who
Speaker 1: the girls are, we'll just put them out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Interesting anyway, we do have, of course,
Speaker 1: an email from our wonderful listeners who's listened to this
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Speaker 1: email from Lily. It looks like Mark joined us if
Speaker 1: he wants to read this for us. Well, I joined
Speaker 1: because Eastern giving me heads up that this email is
Speaker 1: addressed to me as well as Eastern and Jared. So
Speaker 1: here I am, and it's from Lily, one of my
Speaker 1: chopp Liver. Well, I think it's about you, Dean. I
Speaker 1: think that's the Lily says. I have a question for
Speaker 1: Mark Easton and Jared. I'm curious to hear your perspective.
Speaker 1: Seeing as though you guys have seen Dean every week
Speaker 1: for the past few years. What have you guys noticed
Speaker 1: about Dean and his relationship with Kaylin compared to his
Speaker 1: past relationships. Is he different with her than he was
Speaker 1: in the past when they first started dating. Did you
Speaker 1: think was going to laugh or did you think it
Speaker 1: was going to be a short fling. Good question. Uh,
Speaker 1: anybody want to go first or me, I'll go first.
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be a short fling. I
Speaker 1: feel like at the time, I considered Dean uh a
Speaker 1: non monogamous sort. I felt like he was a guy
Speaker 1: that was not someone who committed to a relationship or
Speaker 1: really anything. By the way, and in love life, he's
Speaker 1: not committing to anything ever. It makes it it's just
Speaker 1: against who he is. It makes him feel claustrophobic to
Speaker 1: be committed to something regularly. So I thought it was
Speaker 1: just another flame and great, good for you, have a
Speaker 1: good time. She's lovely and that's awesome. Uh. Since then,
Speaker 1: I've noticed the difference. He talks more openly about her,
Speaker 1: about the relationship, about their future together, about marriage, he's
Speaker 1: talked about in the show, about kids, whether yes or no.
Speaker 1: It's just everything is more on the table with him
Speaker 1: with this relationship. I don't claim to be his best
Speaker 1: friend or anything. I just see him for this podcast
Speaker 1: every week for what three or four years now, And
Speaker 1: that's what I've noticed is is he is all in.
Speaker 1: He does not seem to be claustrophobic at all. He
Speaker 1: seems to really legitimately be enjoying his life with Kalin
Speaker 1: and it may end up being his life with Calin. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Thanks Mark, that was beautiful. Eastern I'll go
Speaker 1: down the line. I have to agree with Mark. I
Speaker 1: I did. I did not see this going the distance.
Speaker 1: Um uh I And just because um, I mean, like
Speaker 1: Mark said, Dean, I I you know, I didn't take
Speaker 1: you as the long term relationship type. Uh. And also
Speaker 1: I hope this isn't causing a problem by mentioning this,
Speaker 1: but I have a memory of um years ago, right
Speaker 1: when you first started dating Klin. We were at some
Speaker 1: podcast thing and like Tahoe Arena or something like that,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we were at a a casino
Speaker 1: and you were running around screaming or something, and Kalen
Speaker 1: and I were eating pizza, and uh, she looked at
Speaker 1: me and she's like, what did I get myself into?
Speaker 1: Is he like? And I was like, oh, man, she's
Speaker 1: she's gonna wise up in bail at some point. But
Speaker 1: um no, And just like Mark said, I mean, I
Speaker 1: have noticed that you've You've matured so much before our
Speaker 1: very eyes. You've grown into this beautiful young man. And
Speaker 1: you're You're so open to talking about things I really
Speaker 1: didn't think you'd be interested in. Uh, you know, building
Speaker 1: a life with this person. Having all these experiences has
Speaker 1: just been really exciting. And I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 1: excited to see you grow further with her. Oh. Thanks Euston.
Speaker 1: It's funny that you bring up that that Tahoe night
Speaker 1: because Caitlin ribs me for it all the time. She
Speaker 1: I was, I think that's probably drunk as I've ever
Speaker 1: been in my entire life. I was like, I had
Speaker 1: the hiccups. I remember I like put a beer on
Speaker 1: my seat at the concert and totally forgot that it
Speaker 1: was there, and I sat down onto the beer. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so she she gives me a lot of crap
Speaker 1: for that, But that is funny to think that was
Speaker 1: like two weeks into our relationship. Yeah, to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I definitely have seen a change. Indeed, Um, I think
Speaker 1: I was torn whether it was gonna last or not. Um.
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget going back into the I Heart
Speaker 1: studio when you had just left Paradise and you were
Speaker 1: only gone for like a week. Because I don't even
Speaker 1: think you missed an episode of the podcast because the
Speaker 1: next week you were there and I was like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: you're already back from Paradise and you were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I left, blah blah blah. And then you were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm going back down tomorrow. I was like,
Speaker 1: when you mean back down tomorrow and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I broke up with you know, I did things of Caylin.
Speaker 1: I I can't stop thinking about her, and I really
Speaker 1: think I just messed up, and I want to go
Speaker 1: back down and why I missed her. I want to
Speaker 1: date here. And I remember talking to you and I
Speaker 1: was like, if you're just going down for Kalin, I
Speaker 1: think you should totally do it. I think you should
Speaker 1: just go if you're only going for Kalin, and you say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm either leaving with you or leaving without you, but
Speaker 1: I'm not staying here. So I'm so glad you did it.
Speaker 1: And when you went back down, I knew that you
Speaker 1: were going to really invest in the relationship because of
Speaker 1: how much you cared about Calin and how you really
Speaker 1: wanted to put time and effort into it, especially if
Speaker 1: you're gonna make this grand romantic gesture like going back
Speaker 1: into Paradise that you were going to really take the
Speaker 1: time in the effort to invest, and and you have,
Speaker 1: and I I think it is interesting to see an
Speaker 1: evolution in Udine. I mean, obviously you still, like you know,
Speaker 1: barely show up to the podcast, and your wife I
Speaker 1: never work, so some some things will never change, which
Speaker 1: I love and is so endearing of you. But I
Speaker 1: can also see a change in you when you talk
Speaker 1: about Kalin, because I agree with both Mark and Easton.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times when you were talking
Speaker 1: about your future, even you know, when you first started
Speaker 1: saying Klin, a lot of it was like what you
Speaker 1: thought your future was gonna look like. And now when
Speaker 1: you talk about the future, you talk about the future
Speaker 1: with Klin and her being a part of that life.
Speaker 1: And so that's really cool to see because it's just
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, you know, Kalin is gonna be
Speaker 1: there in my future because we're in a relationship together
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the way it's gonna go. Where before,
Speaker 1: when you were single, obviously you talked about this future
Speaker 1: of not knowing what you're gonna do. You're gonna live
Speaker 1: in a van and just travel the world, and you
Speaker 1: want to be a loner, and you don't want to
Speaker 1: be in a relationship. And so to see Klin kind
Speaker 1: of change that uh in you has been really cool.
Speaker 1: This is a fun little bit. It's funny you guys
Speaker 1: talk about me. I gotta be honest, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of do you think you've changed? Uh? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: one second, but Mark and Easton, it's funny to hear
Speaker 1: you guys talk about how I was committed to not
Speaker 1: committing to anything, and I felt that there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of, Uh, you guys are personalizing a little bit.
Speaker 1: I sense a little bit of frustration with the podcast here.
Speaker 1: I so I appreciate that. But you're absolutely right. Um,
Speaker 1: have I felt the change? Yeah? I um, especially in
Speaker 1: the past, like it's were like, you know, over the
Speaker 1: past like six months especially, Uh, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just yeah, I guess I've always like when I went
Speaker 1: back to Paradise to date Kalin, which I was whether
Speaker 1: to do that or not in Jared, that conversation that
Speaker 1: we had back in the podcasting room was what sent
Speaker 1: me over the edge to go back and do it.
Speaker 1: You're like why not? Just You're like, why not? Just
Speaker 1: do it? So yeah, So actually I do I owe
Speaker 1: our relationship to you. So I appreciate that. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that, but I appreciate it. I knew that
Speaker 1: I was gonna, like I would fully dive into the relationship,
Speaker 1: but um, it's going. Yeah, I mean it's going better
Speaker 1: than I ever could have hoped. So I'm super happy.
Speaker 1: But I I guess that changing myself like it's it's
Speaker 1: weird because I always kind of the reason I shied
Speaker 1: away from like commitment and monogamy and all those kind
Speaker 1: of things because I felt like it would hinder my
Speaker 1: ability to do with the things that I wanted to
Speaker 1: do like ghost gott I have in Alaska or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Uh. And the nice thing about this relationship,
Speaker 1: and I think most relationships that are just like healthy,
Speaker 1: is that I can still do whatever I want to do. Um,
Speaker 1: I just now get to share a lot of those
Speaker 1: experiences with the person that I love. And that's that's
Speaker 1: super nice and unique and a wonderful thing. But I like,
Speaker 1: she doesn't like prohibit me from you know, going out
Speaker 1: and getting wasted at a casino and screaming and the
Speaker 1: casino and then going and Scott having Alaska are you know,
Speaker 1: going into Paul or whatever it is so like all
Speaker 1: of the things that I was worried about entering a
Speaker 1: relationship to, like that that we're gonna like hold me
Speaker 1: back or like hinder me um are They're just not
Speaker 1: as real as I thought they were gonna be. So
Speaker 1: that's really nice. Two things. One, I have a quick
Speaker 1: question because I think that's gonna it's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: the next few years if Klin wants kids, and if
Speaker 1: you want kids, because I do think that that might
Speaker 1: hinder your ability to run around a casino and sit
Speaker 1: on your beer or almost get decapitated by a plane
Speaker 1: while jumping out of it in Alaska, in Serrara, gree Weather.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious about that and if you're open to that.
Speaker 1: And secondly, it's interesting hearing you talk about Kalin because subconsciously,
Speaker 1: first of all, you're such a cotrarian. When you talk
Speaker 1: about Kalin and nobody's asking you about it, you sound
Speaker 1: so lovely, dovey and just how into you like you
Speaker 1: can just hear how much you love her. But then anytime,
Speaker 1: like we ask you to actually talk about it, you're
Speaker 1: always like, well, you know, we'll see, we'll see how
Speaker 1: it goes. And it's like you son of a bitch.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I hate the performative nature of that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, I don't I'm not a dancing monkey.
Speaker 1: I don't want to just like you know, put on
Speaker 1: this little show for you guys. But yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: whenever it comes up naturally, I don't mind talking about
Speaker 1: it quite as much. But right it definitely is the
Speaker 1: contrarian in me. Uh. It stems from an issue that
Speaker 1: I have with authority and you guys their authority figures
Speaker 1: let me ask questions like that. Maybe that's what it is. Um.
Speaker 1: But the kids thing, Yeah, I mean Caitlin and I
Speaker 1: talk about kids. I It's funny because when we first
Speaker 1: started dating, she was like, A wants kids, probably like
Speaker 1: four kids or something like that. Um, and I have like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've always wanted kids in a way, but
Speaker 1: I've gone back and forth on the on them, just
Speaker 1: because I know how much of a responsibility they are
Speaker 1: and with my life being so uncertain, like I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'll be able to take care of myself
Speaker 1: for the next ten years, Like how on earth could
Speaker 1: I take care of a child? You know what it means?
Speaker 1: That's kind of where the uncertainty stems from that, but
Speaker 1: we both kind of we're both continuously like shifting our
Speaker 1: ideas on children. Like she she definitely still wants a kid.
Speaker 1: I think she at this point wants like one kid. Um,
Speaker 1: But she's still so young, she's twenty six, and so
Speaker 1: I don't think we're in any rush. And I think
Speaker 1: like the longer we wait, the better of a decision
Speaker 1: will be able to make. You know, like let's say
Speaker 1: in three or four years, we completely change our minds
Speaker 1: and we don't want kids. If we have a kid
Speaker 1: next year, then we can't have that decision because hey,
Speaker 1: we already have a kid. But if we take you know,
Speaker 1: three more years to figure it out and really decide
Speaker 1: what we want to do together, uh, then we'll be
Speaker 1: pretty confident in the decision that we make. And like
Speaker 1: I said, she's young, she's twenty six, so there's not
Speaker 1: really any rush, especially if we only want to have one. UM.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where our heads are at with that.
Speaker 1: What do you think that that seems like a good, good,
Speaker 1: good reasoning, right, I think that was fantastic, great email, Lily,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Uh, and then everybody listening, please
Speaker 1: once again email us at I such a dating iHeart
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Speaker 1: up there. Uh. And that will do it, I think
Speaker 1: for today's show, unless you've got anything else, Deanie. Uh.
Speaker 1: Deany's coffee beanies is Uh. I think I think I'm
Speaker 1: good over here. You gotta name one from Mark and
Speaker 1: Easton too. I'll help you think of some names. That's
Speaker 1: a really good idea. I know we we definitely need
Speaker 1: to do that. So Mark and Easton, if you guys
Speaker 1: have any ideas for drinks named after you, guys, please
Speaker 1: let us know. Well, I don't drink caffeine, so it's
Speaker 1: gotta be not caffeinated, and I'm not good with dairy,
Speaker 1: so it really is getting down there. Now, what the
Speaker 1: idea of a fruit smoothie? Mark's boring drink? You want
Speaker 1: that one? May Mark water bottle exactly. We'll just slap
Speaker 1: your name over like the water jug in the corner
Speaker 1: or something like that. Anyways, thank you guys for joining us,
Speaker 1: Mark and Easton, thank you guys for coming in and
Speaker 1: saying those surprisingly nice things with a little sprinkle of
Speaker 1: meanness in there, but it's it's overall mostly mostly nice,
Speaker 1: so I appreciate that. Thanks guys for joining us. Thank
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