1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: My name is Clay Knucomb and this is a production 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: of the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 4 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast. Brought to you 5 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: by Tokvi's Boots. I'm a cowboy boot man and I've 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: been wearing to Covis for years, the most comfortable boot 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: I've ever put on. Good boots for good times. Welcome 8 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: to the Bear Grease Render. We have a skeleton crew today, 9 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: but we knew that it was going to work out 10 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: because of the hard hitting guests that we have. That's right, 11 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: that's right we have. We'll go counterclockwise, actually clockwise, and 12 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: we'll introduce our special guest at the end, who is 13 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: sitting in a TA Covis hot seat. You may not 14 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: have known that. If you've noticed there's boots on your chair, 15 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: you are in the Ta coves hot seat. But to 16 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: my left, I have my wife, doctor mister nukeom good 17 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: to be so great to have you here. 18 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: Ah, he's good to be here. 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Yes, we've got Josh Lanbridge, spillmaker. 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: I'm here. 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm here, yep. Who randomly I have to I have 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: to tell people why his nickname is Landbridge. Yeah, you 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: did it earlier today on a different podcast, but twenty 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: years ago, Holly, I've not introduced to you yet, but 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: foreshadowing our special special guest, his name Holly Holly. Twenty 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: years ago, Josh Spillmaker had such a great mustache that 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: it inspired me to learn about the baring land Bridge 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: all in a flash. It was like, it was like 29 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: it was like a revelational moment. I looked at this, 30 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: it was like that around my mustache. It was like that. 31 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd ever thought about the burying 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: land Bridge of my life. And I looked at Josh 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: one day in the stash it was like, it's connecting 34 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: to continents. And I went and ordered a book called 35 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Beringia and it was it was not great. 36 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: You read it and then passed it to me and 37 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: it was unreadable. 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: It was and that kind of set my life on 39 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: a trajectory to be really interested in like anthropology and 40 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: human history and the Americas and stuff. So Josh Landbridge 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: is very welcome America the history. But our very special 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: guest is Holly newkirkre Yes. It's it's great to have 43 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: you and Holly was one of our storytellers on the 44 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Bear Grease Turkey Stories episode that was titled Bobcat Attacks, 45 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: I Got I Got shot or getting shot, Bobcat Attacks 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: and flint lock Yep. 47 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah it is a good story too, really great. 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: Fantastic story. 49 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So we're gonna get in. We're gonna talk to 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Holly in detail in just a minute. But there's first off, 51 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: this is this is Meat Eater's Turkey Week. So during 52 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: Turkey Week where we're having a bunch of Turkey related content, 53 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: we're having sales. I am wearing a hat right now 54 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: that is a massy oak build hat with a Mediator logo, 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: and we've partnered with the National Wild Turkey Federation and 56 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the Lost Hat Company and like just that made a 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: short run of a bunch of different styles of hats 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: and I got them right here. They're pretty cool. Yeah, Holly, 59 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: this is just one of the surprises today. Would you 60 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: like one of these hats? I would love to give 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: you one if you if you if you saw one 62 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: that you liked. 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: I actually really liked this one. 64 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah you like that one? Okay, we're gonna give you 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah. 66 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like this one a lot. I saw when 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 5: you whenever I first walked up to you, like, I 68 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: all like his hat. 69 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Oh cool, Well that's that's the one I'm wearing, isn't it. Okay, 70 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: I can't see so turkey week man. You know what that? 71 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Are they doing a turkey call contest? 72 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything about it. Okay, I think I 73 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: think you've just put the hammer down so many times 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: that may have just given up. 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I think. So that's where I was going to go 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: with this, is that I have won the Meat Eater 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: turkey call contest the last two years running, the only 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: two times. 79 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: With your turkey call you. 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: No, no, no, just like a mouth call. 81 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: I wonder if if I could win against Clay without. 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: A call just oh mouth natural voice. 83 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 6: I have a decent turkey call. Well, okay, I've got 84 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 6: this microphone here. 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: Pull the microwave microphone away from here. 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: Just go for it a little bit. 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm being told two things at the same time. 88 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 6: You listen to okay, okay, Well, and I haven't practiced, 89 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: so sometimes it's the second time that's really good. 90 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: But let's just try. No, it's it's a second time. 91 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: To slow it down down, you. 92 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: Natural voice. 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: Misty, she's got a good tone, like a good tone. 94 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah that's good, that's really good. 95 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: And you call your mouth hauling. 96 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: I've got a couple. 97 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 6: I've got one skill set. I've got one one really 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 6: good wilderness. 99 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: Skill set, Policy reform. 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: And so Turkey Week two, Phelps Turkey calls. So, man, 101 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: this is uh, this this is cool. This is actually 102 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: the third year that we've had this meat eater Phelps 103 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: three pack of Prime Cuts, and there's a and Jason 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: Phelps designed one of the calls on here. Jason Phelps 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: has a call, and Steve Vanella has a call. And 106 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: the biggest validation that I've ever received about this call 107 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: was Lake Pickle requested specifically the NEWKEM prime Cut. Could 108 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: he be playing me like a fit? Yes? Probably he could. 109 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean like, if a guy had his name on 110 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: a Turkey call, I'd be calling him up and be like, man, 111 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: that's the best call I ever heard one. Yeah, I 112 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: mean that's pretty much what happened. But Lake, I believe him. 113 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: I believe Lake. I think he actually likes it a lot. 114 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: So it's a so anyway, Holly, I hope he got 115 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: a gift. You would you would you like this mediator 116 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Prime Cuts diaphragm calls. 117 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 5: You use it is Yeah, these are especially. 118 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean those are normal size. You said you'd like 119 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: the smaller will be fun. You can cut the tape, 120 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: like take a pair of scissors if it's too big. 121 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: But I mean there's a youth diaphragm call that the 122 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: actual you know, like the metal in the call is smaller. 123 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: But you're probably not using one of those, are you 124 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: the one? 125 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 5: I already said many many whatever? 126 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: What would I just say? 127 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 5: It was a wood Haven as a mini wood Haven? 128 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I think it'll be fun. 129 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: This is awesome, thank y'all. 130 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what did you when you were designing 131 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 6: your turkey call? 132 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: Yes, what specifically? 133 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 6: Yours does look different than the other two specifically? 134 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, so in the turkey call business, guys that make 135 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: turkey calls, you could tell them what you wanted the 136 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: call to focus on. So some guys want a call 137 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: that's just like really loud and raspy, say like that's 138 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: that's the main thing they're interested in, is just just 139 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: really well on one. So a call maker would then 140 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: use a style of latex and a cut on the 141 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: reeds that makes that happen. Other guys would want something 142 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: that was soft and subtle, as they says, all right, 143 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: and soft and subtle would be a lighter a lighter 144 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: latex that would you could you could just make little 145 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: purrs and clucks. And I went to Jason and I said, 146 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: I want both, and. 147 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: He was like, I've been just waiting for someone to 148 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: tell me. 149 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: He said, I don't know why anyone's never thought of this, 150 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: that you could actually have both. Now there's some So 151 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: it's a bat wing cut. So all these cuts misty. 152 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: If you look at them, all the cuts on these calls, 153 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: it looks random, but it's very specific and produces a 154 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: certain sound super interesting. 155 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 6: And Jason Philips is one that knows all that. Yeah, 156 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 6: it's really impressive. 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: That felt. Hey, the Phelps Calls now now I mean 158 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: full disclosure, Phelps is owned by a meat eater, like 159 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: this is a company that we I mean, it's it's 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: our company, right, But I've blown every call known to man, 161 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: and there's some great calls. Wood Haven is great. I'd 162 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: be using wood Haven if it wasn't for Phelps, honestly 163 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: was before. But the Phelps Calls uses quality of components 164 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: as any call company. So there's all types of grades. 165 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: Of of of materials that they use in those things 166 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: that actually make them last longer, make them sound better, richer, 167 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: easier to use. Anyway, it's good. It's a it's a 168 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: legit call. It's a legit call. But calls do our 169 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: people like certain brands just because they fit their mouth. 170 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, so it's possible you could use a call 171 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and be like, man, I blow this one better, that 172 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: one better, so that that happens for sure. 173 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, so get yourself some Turkey Week. 174 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Turkey Week phelps get that prime cuts. Uh, just 175 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: little housekeeping as well. Before we move on, the lion 176 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: film Let's Good came out. Yeah, yep last week. So 177 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: I went lion hunting in Utah with Hunter McClain, Meekham 178 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: and Ty Evans. And if you hadn't seen the film, 179 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: you should watch it. It's Meat Eaters twelve and twenty six, 180 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: and so they're in I described this in detail earlier. 181 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: Twenty six stands for twenty twenty six. Twelve stands for 182 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: the months of the year. So they're going to make 183 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: twelve films this year that are full length films. So 184 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Meter usually makes like twenty minute episodes. These are twelve 185 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: full length films. Giannis had one last month, this one 186 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: this month is mine and anyway, they're cool. 187 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 6: I thought, I think we should give a shout out 188 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 6: to the graphics design on the thumbnail for the whole 189 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 6: because they made Clay's eyes look like a mountain. 190 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: Oh did y'all notice I didn't notice that. 191 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: Go back and look. When I looked at it, he looked. 192 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: He was like, you're like me out. 193 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: They did something that made it. But I don't think 194 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: they were trying to mirror My eyes look like a 195 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: lion's eyes because the lion's eyes. 196 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: Are maybe your eyes just look like a lion's eyes. 197 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 6: I don't know, you kind of look similar to that 198 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 6: mountain lionsky. 199 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: You'd have to ask Hunter Spencer. 200 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Clay's got good eyes. 201 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: You know where can meet Hunter Spencer? Yeah, Spencer is 202 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: he's Meteors graphic design guy and he lives in Virginia 203 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: and he didn't know that he is, like his wife's 204 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: a veterinarian. He's just like a super smart, educated, delightful person. 205 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: And he says, idear, I got an idea, Yeah. 206 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah yeah. 207 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: But when he says, because because we we talk about 208 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: he used the word ideas a lot with me because 209 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: he's a graphic designer. So when we talked to him, 210 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: we're like, hey, I got an idea, and he he's 211 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: he says, I got an idea. I'm just like, let's go. 212 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. 213 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: I like it. I got a good and then when 214 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: he can do what he does, anything that Strafford designed 215 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: is going to be designed by him. But he did 216 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: the he did the eye thing. 217 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to talk to Hunter about how like, 218 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: does Clay just have a. 219 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: Natural I think in your house the mountain lion, because 220 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 6: they've got a mountain lion over here, and then Clay's 221 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: got this like real like serious look and the mountain 222 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 6: lion's got a serious look, and they're both looking and 223 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 6: it's just kind of like. 224 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: Make sure we get a thumbnail and popped up on 225 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: this video podcast. 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't even think I actually 227 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: looked at the camera like that. I think it's probably 228 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: like yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, Okay, Well you 229 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: can check out the film. It was cool. 230 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: The film was great. Film was great. I really enjoyed it. 231 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: It was great. The second time, I think we have 232 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: to address the elephant. No, they they uploaded the wrong 233 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: video at first, so it was kind of a bummer. 234 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: So for like five or six hours there was It 235 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: wasn't a bad video, it was just the wrong one. 236 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it was my it was it was the 237 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: video of a lion hunt, but there was no it. 238 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: Was the exact same video. It just didn't have the narration. 239 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: Right, which dramatically compromises the story. 240 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: I think we should have release both in the future 241 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: and you can choose your own adventures. 242 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a good idea. I think that's 243 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 6: good because some people said, oh, you know, I really 244 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 6: liked that. 245 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: It was just. 246 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: It happens. There was like a lot of really long, 247 00:13:54,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: like cinematic yeah, like drone shots across the landscape with 248 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: no music and it was just like nothing. And then 249 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: so in the in the correct version, there was voiceover, 250 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: so I would like, I'd be like, we were in 251 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: not Idaho for five days and we were doing this 252 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: and doing that, you know, so you kind of take 253 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: the story along with narration, and so the first version 254 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: of it didn't have that, and so like at midnight it. 255 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: Was like the real Yeah, it. 256 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Was just yeah, yeah, it kind of yeah. When I hunt, though, 257 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: there's narrators. When I'm in the woods, it's like turn 258 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: to the left, turn. 259 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 6: I can actually attest to this. There's always Clay's always narrating. 260 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 6: Like I feel like my life has a narration, just 261 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 6: I have a narrator and an interpreter who's always trying 262 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 6: to true Story's big benefit of being married to Clays. 263 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: You just get like. 264 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Narration interpret I like to think it's just interpreting life 265 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: for those. 266 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: Around Yeah, and I appreciate it. 267 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: I only talk a lot on podcasts like true it's 268 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: pretty Do your mom and dad do they do? They do? 269 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: They laugh at each other and make fun of each other. 270 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: This is okay. We established earlier that her siblings structure 271 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: is identical to our children. 272 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 5: All their siblings and their kids are the same age 273 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 5: as my siblings. 274 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 6: You have three girls and one boy, right, Yeah, that's 275 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: that's so we've got two girls and two boys, but 276 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 6: basically the same ages, all the same. 277 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, within a year. 278 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: So that's a great that's a great time. 279 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 5: We did. 280 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: We did. This is Holly Newkirk. She was she told 281 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: a Turkey story. 282 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: But Holly, you're a sophomore at the University of Arkansas. 284 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: What are you studying. 285 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: I'm doing business with a minor in entomology, and then 286 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: soon hopefully you'll be a master's in entomology. 287 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Okay, entomology, I really should. 288 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: Know that word study of bugs. 289 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: That's okay, that's what I thought. So is that going 290 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: to be used in like crop science kind of stuff 291 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: like bugs that are bad? 292 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, yep for the crops. 293 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 5: This past couple of summers, I've worked through the university's 294 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 5: research station in Stuttgart and we do trials Arkansas, spraying 295 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: chemicals and trying to get rid of the bugs all 296 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: the road crops. 297 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: What's your what's the worst bug out there? 298 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: I think it's the army worms, because the army worms 299 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 5: come in so fast, they eat it all down and 300 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: they're gone. 301 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: And what do they What did they eat? What army 302 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: worms eat? 303 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 5: They eat from the like the leaf part of the plant, 304 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 5: all the way up they I don't think. 305 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 6: We have army worms in northwest Arkansas, all right, any 306 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 6: of the crops I have that I'm aware of. 307 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: What do they do they in southeast I could they? 308 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if they're up here. I've been come 309 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: up here with ye down south for at least the 310 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 5: big group. They're like, if you have any wheat field 311 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 5: or rice, Okay, it's just gonna look like you mowed 312 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 5: through it. Really, it's gonna look like it's completely mowed 313 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: down in man section. 314 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: That's still a real issue today in modern agriculture. Army 315 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: worms fall. 316 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: Army worms are really bad. 317 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: So the army worm is does it turn into a 318 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: moth or a butter fly or something? 319 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 5: Honestly, I should know this, but I I should know this, don't. 320 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: We don't. 321 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: G didn't know. 322 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: What's your professor's name. 323 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: There's basically a test here. 324 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, well I should Well, I just I don't know. 325 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 5: I don't. 326 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know either. But if it's a worm, it 327 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: just makes me think. I wonder if it's a larvae 328 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: stage of like it is it is. 329 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 4: No, I'm thinking of a different bug. Now. I don't know. 330 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 4: I should know this. 331 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: Just call it. 332 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: She's just a soft. 333 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: This is gonna be. 334 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 5: Bad because my sister's boyfriend's gonna listen to this, and 335 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 5: he's PhD. I work under him. Yeah, we can, we 336 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 5: can edit. 337 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: Let me ask you something, bowl weaver. Is that still 338 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 2: an issue? 339 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: No, they're not issues hardly anymore. 340 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Oh, really, what happened to them. 341 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: They got they started. 342 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 5: Uh, there's some story of like moth that went out 343 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 5: and they breeded. 344 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: These army worm. Army worm moths basically. 345 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: Is another name for genus spot up spot up Terra, 346 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: a group of moths in the family not to e Day, 347 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: commonly known as army worms or cutworms. They do turn 348 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: into a moth. 349 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 4: They do turn Okay, Okay, I never dealt with them 350 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: as a moth. 351 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: Okay. So the bow bow weavels used to be made 352 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: used to. 353 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: Be major issues. 354 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope I'm telling you all the right facts here. 355 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: It's okay. 356 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: I know. 357 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 5: There's bull worms and stuff that we do in cotton, 358 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 5: but I'm trying to make sure I'm getting right facts here. 359 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: I work is. 360 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 5: There's so many bugs that go on at one time. 361 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 5: But if I'm thinking of the right story that I 362 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 5: got told, I think they are a professor. So it 363 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 5: wasn't even the one I worked with. Some professor. He 364 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 5: could be wrong here. 365 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: This is on him. 366 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 5: This is on him. I don't even know his name. 367 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 5: Don't know his name. But they had these multi ideala 368 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 5: they bred and they went out and ate the larvae 369 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 5: of the bowt weavils. Okay, if I'm correct, that could 370 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: be a total different bug I'm thinking of. But I'm 371 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 5: pretty sure it's the bow weavils. 372 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: But but I think I have heard that the bow 373 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: weevil is not what it used It's not the the 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: it used to be like the thing, and then now 375 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: it's not that big a deal. Kind of like, I. 376 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 5: Haven't seen a single bowl weavil, so it's never seen 377 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: a bowl. I've never caught one or seen one while 378 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 5: I'm working in these posts. 379 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: And a bull weavils what you'd find in your flower sometimes. 380 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: Like your bread. 381 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, like your flower. Brother, I feel like. 382 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: When I was a kid, like you find bull weavils. 383 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: Really, are you getting back in nineteen thirty? 384 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: I am going to I'm about to be fifty, so 385 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: it was a long time ago. 386 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: Do you know? 387 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 6: I didn't know this, but you can't grow cotton in 388 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 6: Arkansas unless you have a permit for it. 389 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: Really, I didn't know that. 390 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: But there was a This podcast is just taking a 391 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: complete direction. I wasn't anticipating. I love it. Let's go. 392 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: I think we should get I was an aag to 393 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: we're going to get there, Holly. 394 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 6: Well, I think the one thing that you guys should 395 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 6: know because since you're in agg you probably would never 396 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 6: be on like a gardening Facebook page. It is can 397 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 6: be a little bit of an unhealthy environment. The gardening 398 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 6: Facebook page's brutal. Sometimes they're really helpful, but like you 399 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 6: put up a non native plant. Someone and does that 400 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, no, that person's about to get eviscerated. 401 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: I mean there, and they just like go at them 402 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: in the comments. 403 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 6: And so anyway, so someone someone put out a request. 404 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 6: They were like, hey, I'll drive, I'd like to grow 405 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 6: some cotton. I'll grow, I'll drive anywhere to go get it. 406 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 6: And boy, the comment section lit up and I had 407 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 6: no idea. Everyone was everyone said that is illegal. We're 408 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: gonna have to take this post off. 409 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: Wow. 410 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 6: And then they made like a statement that because you're 411 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 6: not allowed to have a legal illegal plants on the 412 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 6: gardening page and I didn't know that, but it's it's 413 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 6: illegal unless you have a permit because I maybe disease 414 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 6: maybe uh, bugs that can come in with plants. I 415 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 6: don't know, but it's got to be highly regulated. And 416 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 6: that was interesting to me because Lewis dropped them my 417 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 6: great grandpa one time. 418 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: My dad and I hit. My great grandpa. 419 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 6: Loved to grow like weird stuff like he loved to 420 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 6: grow just for the sake of being like, you know, 421 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 6: purple broccoli and things like that. He loved to growth 422 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 6: that no one else said that you could. Everybody else 423 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 6: said you couldn't grow. And we lived in the wash ititalls, 424 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 6: And one day we drove up to his house and 425 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 6: he was just staring the only person there outside at 426 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 6: his garden, just staring at it, smiling, And my dad said, 427 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 6: what did he grow? And we walk in there and 428 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 6: he knew he had grown something. And we walk over 429 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 6: there and he was not He didn't talk a ton, 430 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 6: you know, like he was not a man of many words. 431 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 6: And we walked over there and he didn't even look 432 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 6: up at us. He just sat there smiling, and he said, 433 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 6: they say you can't grow a cotton and the washers 434 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 6: and he pointed at it, and he had grown four 435 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 6: little plants of cotton. So he probably Yeah, he probably 436 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 6: broke the law and would have been not I don't 437 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 6: think he would. 438 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Have made it in the garden. 439 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: On the gardening page, yeah, I think he was got in. 440 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: Trouble a lot on that gardening page. 441 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, uh, you know what we need to do right 442 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: off the top though, is the big thing for Holly 443 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: Big revealed that Josh was trying. 444 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: Out to spill the beans on. 445 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, because you're in the Takova's hot seat, if 446 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: if you would like we we would love to give 447 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: you a pair of to Covi's boots of your choice. 448 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: Wait as she would, Yeah, I don't know if you. 449 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Wear cowboy boots much. They have a lot of different 450 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: kind of women's women's shoes that that additional to like boots. 451 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna give you. 452 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a gift certificate that you will 453 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: be able to go to there's a COVID store here 454 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: in Rogers in Rogers, I think it's the only one 455 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: in Arkansas or you can well. 456 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 5: I might just go check that out today's party in town. 457 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah awesome. 458 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 6: Somehow Josh asked, like, of all of our guests, what 459 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 6: size shoes they wore? 460 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: When you said, we've got a pair of. 461 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: See, that's the that's the challenge we to COVID is 462 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: so awesome to us that give everybody boots. They're like 463 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: just everybody that comes in the door get them some 464 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: boots and but it's kind of it's hard. 465 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: Hard when you don't know what shoe size. You know, 466 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: you want to trap hair boots on. 467 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very generous. 468 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: And to COVI, this is great. Like if you order 469 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: online and you get a pair of boots that don't 470 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: fit just. 471 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 1: Well, and they also have a bunch of gear like 472 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: that's COVID. 473 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 6: You could you could shirt clo shirt. 474 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, awesome, thank you? 475 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: All Okay, all right, hope you brought a bag. 476 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 4: I got a whole car. Can pack. 477 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: Anything else we want to give you can put in 478 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: your car. So, so you're a You are an entomology 479 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: student at the University of Arkansas, and what will you 480 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: do with that degree? 481 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 5: Right now? The plan is to be a chemical sales rep. 482 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 5: That's the goal, but anything can change. I'm opening anything. 483 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: About why would you this is this is not this 484 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: question could sound like I was trying to like dig 485 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: at you. I'm not why would you want to be 486 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: a chemical sales rep? 487 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 5: I just want to be in sales something in sales 488 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 5: and chemical sounds. That's what we've been working with the 489 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 5: law justicles, trying to my own testing them. Yeah, and 490 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 5: it just sounds funding my cousin. 491 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: To get them a lot. He told me to get 492 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: my shout outs, to shout out Trevor. 493 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 5: But he got me set up through this whole entomology 494 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: path and I was on even on the phone the 495 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 5: you don't have to do chemicalssels because I told you. 496 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: I'm like, no, that sounds awesome. And basically just because 497 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: he set me up on the path and he hopes 498 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 5: you will and He's hooked me up the whole way, 499 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 5: and I'm like, thank you, Trevor. So I'm just following 500 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 5: his footsteps. 501 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Right there you go. And so you grew up in 502 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: the Arkansas Delta so for people, and. 503 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 5: He grew up even in Stutgart, so he was right 504 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 5: there there. 505 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Okay, they're kind of the heart of it. So like 506 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: in Arkansas, I've said so many times, but the eastern 507 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: side of Arkansas is where the lot of aggland Mississippi 508 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: River Delta flat land, lot of agge. The part that 509 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: we're in right now in northwest Arkansas is no agg 510 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we're hours from any kind of row crop 511 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: agriculture to any degree. But people that live over in 512 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: the east kind of know that world. So you kind 513 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: of grew up around roe crop agrigs. 514 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, my front yard's afield pay side. He's just fields. 515 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: Buff, yes, sir, which I would know Devall's bluff, not 516 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: because I have duck hunted there, but you hear people 517 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: talk about duck hunting in that part of the world. 518 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: It's just right besides Stucker. 519 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: So it's there. 520 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: You go back and forth. 521 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: Yep, are you duck hunter? 522 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 5: I am. I am a duck hunter. I don't do 523 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 5: I don't do very good, but I do really enjoy it. 524 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, can you call you duck call? 525 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 5: I actually told myself I would not learn a duck 526 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 5: call just so I always have somebody to go with 527 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 5: me to not learn a duck call, because I don't 528 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: like go by myself. So I'm like, if I don't learn, 529 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 5: somebody's always going to go with You're gonna have to. 530 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: And if I wear my daw look down long enough, 531 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 5: he's just gonna be Okay, let's go to you. 532 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: Let's go. 533 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 5: But I have a family friend that he goes with 534 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: me most of the time and he calls for me 535 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: all the time, and I just just stand there and 536 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 537 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: You have the exact same philosophy and dut exactly. I 538 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: can't duck call. I just like going with people that can. 539 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: I started to learn. I was like, Nope, this is 540 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 5: not for me. I'm a girl. Gosh all to be 541 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: honey with me if I'm going duck hunting anyway. 542 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: But turkey hunt is different, though, is different? 543 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got that one alone. 544 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 4: I did that one by myself. 545 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: Very impressive. 546 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 5: Yes, with turkey hunt, you have to go further and 547 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: travel further kids, not just in my backyard. 548 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 4: So I have to learn that one on my own 549 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 4: and be able to find it out myself. 550 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: Okay, man, when I heard your story, I mean I was, 551 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I was probably like your dad. I 552 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: was proud of you. I was like, dang, that's to 553 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: go out and find land. And then number two, I mean, 554 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm a grown adult, and it's intimidating to go ask 555 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: like cold call on someone and ask them for permission 556 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: to hunt the. 557 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: Probably so scary. We Actually the reason I even went 558 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: to their house was like, I wasn't supposed to be 559 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 5: going in that direction. I was delivering flowers. I did 560 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 5: some side job delivering flowers, and she sent me way 561 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 5: out there. And it was one night. I had plans 562 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: and I was so mad. I did not want to 563 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: go up there. I was like, Dad, this lady's sending 564 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 5: me out like fifty miles out of town. I do 565 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 5: not want to go. And I was so mad to 566 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 5: go ot there. Then I'll get out there. 567 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, it's so pretty. 568 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 5: So I dropped a pin on my on X and 569 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: I started looking at land all around. I'm like, oh, 570 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 5: let's see which has big set of big chunks of 571 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 5: land out here. It's like three days later, I go 572 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: hag out there and start knocking on doors with everybody. 573 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 5: I probably knocked on like ten or so doors in 574 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 5: this one really oh yeah. 575 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: It was scary. 576 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: And he was actually the second guy knocked on. He 577 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 5: was like yeah, I know, Like wait really because I 578 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 5: just knock on the door. He's like come in and I'm. 579 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 4: Like, oh shoot. 580 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: Like the first thing he said was come in, and 581 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 5: I'm like, he does not know who I am, and 582 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 5: I'm in the middle. I've drove down dart roads forever 583 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 5: like I don't know who Yeah, so what did you 584 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 5: go in? What did your dad say about that? 585 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: To do that? 586 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 5: Next time I opened the door and I'm like sitting 587 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 5: at the door then and they're gonna get up and 588 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 5: like come greet me in this there's just two old 589 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: couple and the five man. 590 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so there you're you're you're. 591 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 5: Well, I opened the door and I'm like eas and 592 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: I'm kind of like see what I'm looking at and 593 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 5: he's like they're just sitting there and he's like turning 594 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 5: his head to me, and I see, okay, they're both here, 595 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 5: So I walking away better better? Yeah, they're like I 596 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 5: was like, I'm hauling there, like take a seat, and 597 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, dear, I go in and I take 598 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 5: a seat. And I talked to him for like thirty 599 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 5: minutes of like you can hunt this whenever you want, 600 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: like have adamm so proud of you for doing. 601 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: This and coming out of here chemicals too. 602 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 4: I did not sell the chemicals now. 603 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: So so you're you were you discerned the situation correctly, 604 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: like that these were genuine decent and they and they 605 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: became that. 606 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I and visit them. 607 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: I visited them a couple times a year already to 608 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 5: not even be in Turkey season, just to keep the 609 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 5: relationship and because they're so sweet to be around. 610 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome. But but what makes people really sweet 611 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: sometimes is when they have ten strutters in their front yard. 612 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah that, oh yeah? 613 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 5: Pulling up? And I was pulling up that day. I 614 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 5: was like, I just got to be a joke. I 615 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 5: thought I was being. 616 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Pranked or something. Somebody's got decoys out there. You were coming. 617 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 5: I was like, I've got to be pranked, Like what's 618 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 5: going on here? 619 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: And I'm looking around. 620 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 5: I was like my eyes were like as big as 621 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 5: my whole face and I was like, what am I 622 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 5: looking at right now? 623 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: And it was awesome. I was like my heart'shart being. 624 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 5: As soon as I walked up, and I was like, Okay, 625 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: if I don't get this one, I'm gonna be heartbroken. 626 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 5: And it was the only land out of any of 627 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 5: the doors I knocked on that I saw turkeys on 628 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: before I knocked on the door. Wow. 629 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: And it was the only one I got a yes. 630 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: So so they would have been. You know, sometimes when 631 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: you meet ranchers landowners that aren't hunters, they have like 632 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: little awareness of what's on their land. But I assume 633 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: driving their seeing turkeys like they knew they were. 634 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: They definitely knew there were turkeys. 635 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: They he told me as soon as I said something turkey, 636 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 5: I got those everywhere and he thought it was like no, 637 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 5: He's like, could. 638 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: You send me that pin? 639 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: I'm going to keep that one think but I said 640 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 5: something or I said something about trick turkey hunt. He 641 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 5: was we got turkeys everywhere, Like you just selling his 642 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: back porch to shoot something. I'm like, oh, like, I 643 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 5: like to put a little effort and I'm not gonna sitend 644 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: in your back door and shoot a turkey. The day 645 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: I finally killed the turkey, I went up to the 646 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 5: door and told him. 647 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: He's like okay. 648 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 5: I was like, wait, this is a big deal, Like 649 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 5: I'm to celebrate. 650 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Oh, he didn't think much. 651 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 5: He did. 652 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: He wasn't like he's like pumped. 653 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: Cool, like he just thought it was casual. And I'm like, yeah, 654 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: he's never I found out this a couple of weeks. 655 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 5: So he's never even been turkey hunting. He's gone elk 656 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 5: hunting in Colorado and bear honey, all the hunting, deer hunting, 657 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 5: duck honey, everything except for turkey hunting. Wow. 658 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he didn't missing out. 659 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: He didn't. He's missing big time. He didn't understand the. 660 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't listen to this podcast and then they'll 661 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: be like, oh man, I need I need it. Well, okay, 662 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: So the surprising part of your story to me and 663 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: the scary part and the part that kind of built 664 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a storyline in the whole episode, 665 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: which was completely unintentional, was this issue of safety really 666 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: like your first part of your story. So you're sitting there, 667 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, she's sitting there calling in this bird, seize 668 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: the bird. She believes she's the only one on the property, 669 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: at least on this side of the property that you 670 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: were on, and like, you're about to shoot these turkeys. 671 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 5: Oh, I was gunned up. I was dead on these targes. 672 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: I was like they were pretty much in range whenever 673 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: they were there. But I'm like, there's no need. 674 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: To stretch it. 675 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, they're coming. 676 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 5: They're coming, like there's nothing stopping them here, Like yep, 677 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: I'm not. They can't see me. I'm on behind a 678 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 5: big tree them like they can't see me. I can 679 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 5: see them. 680 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: I was chilling. 681 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 5: They were coming in and they were gobbling, just at 682 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: themselves and everything, and I'm like, this is ideal. So 683 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 5: I'm just in here waiting on them and yeah, out 684 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 5: of nowhere. The guy shoots, and I'm like what, And 685 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 5: I like jolt back when he's shop where. 686 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Was he in relationship? So like you're you're pointing your 687 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: gun at like twelve o'clock, let's say clock. 688 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm shooting this way, okay, I'm gonna go 689 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: right here. Caause's in front of me. 690 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's pointing at me. 691 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 5: She's she's the turkey's coming at me. And I'm seeing 692 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 5: this way. They're literally like right here. They are just 693 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 5: to my right, probably forty five fifty yards and there's 694 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: like a little it goes up right there and there's trees. 695 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 5: I couldn't see over that. This is a tiny little 696 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 5: up but I couldn't see over that little bit right there. 697 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 5: And so they shot and I was like jolting back 698 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: because it sounded like it was me shooting. 699 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: I knew I didn't shoot. 700 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 5: They was so close, and I'm like freaking out, and 701 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: I see the turkey. I thought like it flought for 702 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: a minute, but I guess it did later got up 703 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 5: run because I sui ay sean, I dug down. I 704 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 5: didn't know what was going on. 705 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: I got scared, and I'm like watching them. 706 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 5: When I see these two guys, it's like an older man, 707 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 5: I guess a younger guy. I'm probably guessing like a 708 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: twelve year old with him. And because I thought at 709 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 5: the time it was an older guy. Finds out because 710 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 5: I thought it was two older guys, and I was like, oh, 711 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 5: that was really short to be an older guy. But 712 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 5: I'm like, they wouldn't bring a kid out here on 713 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 5: opening day. I don't know why I thought that, but 714 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 5: for some reason my head I thought that. But anyways, 715 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 5: ends up being it's like a twelve year old because 716 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: I knew he was short, and they're running and they 717 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 5: were running to it, and I was like, man, this 718 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 5: is awful. And I was like heartbroken, and I'm like, 719 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: what do I do now? 720 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Like you didn't okay, it surprised me a little bit 721 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 1: that you didn't like address him, but I guess I 722 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: guess I just me a dog. 723 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 5: I tuck my tail and went straight down that hill. 724 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 5: I like hid from why I never gonna let the 725 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 5: Hiven knowew that's probably smart. I didn't know. I didn't 726 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 5: even know they were allowed to be on this land 727 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 5: because I was like, okay, surely they would not cross 728 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 5: the line that he told us not to cross with him, 729 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 5: saying if somebody does come, which is a low chance, 730 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 5: they'll be on my side. 731 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, no one's gonna cross that. They're gonna listen to. 732 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: The land So did you figure out who they were? Yes? 733 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 5: I did figure out and it ended up being the 734 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 5: guy that he thought would be coming, and it was 735 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 5: his son with him, and they missed the turkey. They'd 736 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 5: even kill the turkey and it was a little son 737 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 5: that shot and that was just hunting. Okay, so first 738 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 5: time unting. They were definitely on the one. So yeah, 739 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 5: I told the landowner and he's like, oh, they should 740 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: not have done that. I wanted to call him and 741 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I mean, don't get them in trouble. 742 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 5: Don't mean to get them in trouble like that was dangerous, 743 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 5: Like I thought I was getting shot out at that point. 744 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 745 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: He was like, oh, that won't happen again, Like next time, 746 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 5: you'll have it to yourself. We're not gonna let this 747 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: happen again. 748 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: Well wow, well it it really is an issue. I mean, 749 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: when you're turkey out and you know, I mean I 750 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: said it on the episode, but like all other types 751 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: of firearm hunting, you pretty much are wearing Hunter's orange. 752 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: Now squirrel hunting and stuff, you don't have to. But 753 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: squirrel hunts a little bit a bit different because you're 754 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: you're shooting up but uh, but but most firearm related 755 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of caution you you're using Hunters orange 756 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: turkey out and you don't. 757 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was surprising listening to the podcast all the 758 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 6: just one story after another of something. 759 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah and and well, and then the first first story 760 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: on there yeah, which it was a great well. I 761 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: don't want to get into it too much, but we're 762 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: going to get into it. But yeah, the first story 763 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: was two guys shooting at each other, towards each other, 764 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: like at the single turkey, which is wild. 765 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 5: I wonder how far how far apart were they, like 766 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 5: how far was perky away from each person? 767 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: So I don't really know, but I know that it 768 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: was just turkey shotgun range. I would imagine inside of 769 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: forty yards. I mean, I don't think they were shooting 770 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: at this bird like fifty sixty yards away. I think 771 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: he didn't say, but I feel like they were eighty 772 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: yards apart shooting at a turkey at forty yards. Well, 773 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: you know something like that that's crazy, but so okay. 774 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: So when you when these guys scare you and shoot 775 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: your turkey, a lot of people would just gone home 776 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: for real. I mean sometimes there's been a lot of 777 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: times when something negative has happened in the woods that 778 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: sometimes and I've seen people react this way where it's 779 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: just like I'm done for today, let's let's go back. 780 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: We'll try tomorrow. Like if something negative happens, like someone 781 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: shoots a turkey scares you, not supposed to be there, 782 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: but not Holly Knuker, No. 783 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 5: Going home really never crossed my the only reason, like 784 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 5: it's like swin through my mind. Second, I was like, okay, 785 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 5: maybe they're still hunting, like that was the only words 786 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 5: that they still might be hunting. But I was like, no, 787 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: like they're not gonna They've tried, and am I also 788 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 5: knew like if you shoot, that doesn't scare the turkeys 789 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 5: away the rest of the time because we've shot. I've 790 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 5: shot a bird and then like my sisters shoot a 791 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 5: bird a little bit later. I'm like, I know that 792 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 5: doesn't mess up the turkeys the whole day. So I'm like, 793 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 5: there's still a chance. I know there's plenty of other 794 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 5: birds around because I heard them all gobling off the roost. 795 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 5: They're going everywhere, going crazy and all that. Wow, So 796 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 5: I knew there was plenty of round so I was 797 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 5: just gonna wait, let them cool out. Rain came through, 798 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 5: Let that go back. Called my dad. Dad's like, Holly, 799 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 5: do not leave, Like what are you thinking. You've been 800 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 5: waiting for this moment your entire life. 801 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: Do not leave. 802 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm not gonna leave, Like it's really annoying. 803 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 5: So yeah, then just walked and walked. Was this last 804 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 5: year on opening day? 805 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: So it was twenty twenty five, so I mean like 806 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: one year ago, okay, yeah, exactly one year now? You 807 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: had you'd killed other turkeys before? 808 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've killed several turkeys. 809 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 5: We go to Tennessee every year and we always turkey 810 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 5: hunt there, and I've killed turkey in Arkansas almost every 811 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: year or two. We normally go to Batesville, but I've 812 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 5: gone back and forth through those states. I even go 813 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 5: to Idaho my favorite time turkey hunting. 814 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: Really, so you really have. When I said you were 815 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: a veteran, I was stepping a little bit on a 816 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: limb because I didn't know exactly, but you're a veteran. 817 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to a lot of places. I love it. 818 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 819 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 5: I think I finally got a green light to Oklahoma 820 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 5: this year, so that's exciting. 821 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 4: Okay, We're gonna try to make it all everywhere. 822 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: So you you go to the other side of the property, 823 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: you get a bird goblin, Yeah, and you just call 824 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: it right up. And it's probably about like morning by then. 825 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah's probably around nine o'clock. I think eight thirty, 826 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 5: nine o'clock. Yesh, maybe that's probably like nine to thirty. 827 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 5: It has been a little bit, I feel like, and 828 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 5: I had to given up hoe. I was like, this 829 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 5: land's not even that pretty gowns. I like, I'm just 830 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 5: gonna do it, just to do it because I don't 831 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 5: want there to be any mystery and anyway, So I 832 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 5: go through the gate, make loud noises doing that. Like 833 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 5: I said, I dropped the gate. I thought I heard God, Like, no, 834 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 5: I'm hearing things. Put the gay back up, just loll 835 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 5: going around. Wasn't hiding at all, Like I was just 836 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 5: walking and I stand by this tree and I'm getting 837 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 5: by this tree and I'm like, okay, because am I 838 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 5: I always know if you're gonna go, if you're gonna 839 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 5: call be somewhere, if you need to, you just sit 840 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 5: down immediately. And in my head I was like, okay, 841 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: and just sit down to meally because I'm by a 842 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 5: tree right now. But O case I called, I did 843 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 5: like just a slate called there's a real simple slate 844 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 5: called a little yell. He immediately and he is like, 845 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 5: it's like a straight drop off. He immediately just cuts 846 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 5: it off. He's right close, like, but the drop off 847 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 5: is so thick. I knew there was no way he's 848 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 5: coming through this because I couldn't seen down drop all. 849 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 5: I do the straight drop off and it's thick like 850 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 5: all trees right there, so like maybe forty yards not 851 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 5: very far. Forty yards fifty yards away is where the 852 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 5: opening is, where the trees stopping. There's a little tall 853 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,959 Speaker 5: grass over there. So I as soon as he golf 854 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 5: was like, I'm like whoa, And I'm like I freeze 855 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 5: for a second, and I didn't know what to do 856 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 5: for the second. I drop my decoys. I don't know 857 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 5: why I did that. Drop my decoys, drop the fin 858 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 5: I run to this tree and I'm like hunch it down, 859 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 5: running because the grass is tall, I can hide under it. 860 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 5: I get over there, and he's by the time I 861 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 5: got from that tree to that tree forty yards may 862 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 5: be max or fifty yards. He gobbled two more times, 863 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 5: and I was like. 864 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and I was like coming. 865 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 4: I was like, what do I do? 866 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 5: I put my I already had my dog from in 867 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 5: of my mouth, and I was like, okay, I'm called. 868 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 5: He did like if he starts acting weird, but I 869 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 5: almost be quiet because I know not to. 870 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: Overcall because she already called once. 871 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 5: I called once and that's all of one time. And 872 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 5: the way he's gobelhen, I'm like, he I can already 873 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 5: tell that he's moved because he gobbled over here first and 874 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 5: he has already moved. His second or her third gobble 875 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 5: was like straight in front of where I'm sitting now, okay, 876 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 5: and so it would have been diagonal from our first 877 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 5: goal where my first call was. So I'm sitting down 878 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 5: and it's like tall grass. It's like a straight drop 879 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 5: off on the other side of the tall grass, and 880 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 5: he's sitting there. He's just gobbling, and I'm like, what 881 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 5: do I do? Like he's got to come up this thing, 882 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 5: Like if he comes up, he's for sure and rage 883 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 5: like without a doubt. So I'm sitting here, right here 884 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 5: is Goblin and I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, 885 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 5: in my head, it's like taking forever. It's taking for everyone. 886 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm there for like ten minutes and 887 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 5: it probably took a two minute for the whole hunt, 888 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 5: or five minutes, not long at all. And I'm sitting 889 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 5: there taking picts forever, and I'm sending him sending I'm 890 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 5: saying he gobbles again, and I'm like, okay, maybe I 891 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 5: should call, and I'm like, no, don't call, don't call. 892 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 5: And then and then he's drumming. I was like, drumming 893 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 5: like shook me. And I'd never heard drum before, so 894 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 5: I'm like it like shakes me. And I'm like, oh 895 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 5: my gosh, Like he's on top of me, and I'm 896 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 5: like trying to look and see where he is, and 897 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 5: I'm like okay, but then I heard drumming. You know, 898 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 5: I thought it was more this way, but I think 899 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 5: it's just the way it was like going. But I 900 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 5: was like looking more this way and I'm like, no move, 901 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 5: but we wanted to keep looking beside me. And everywhere, 902 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 5: and I'm like, I was like, this is the most 903 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 5: nervous I've ever been on a turkey because I was 904 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 5: by myself. I didn't have anyone telling me what to do. 905 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, I bick, oh, this is about myself. And anyways, 906 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 5: I heard the drummond, heard him gobble again. And then 907 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 5: finally I see just the tip of his fan, like 908 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 5: a very tip, and I see his head, the tip 909 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 5: of his head, and I'm like, oh, there he is. 910 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 4: I see him stepping a little bit closer. 911 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: I see thought he was. 912 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 5: He was a little bit just like a couple of 913 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 5: feet to the left of where he was, So he 914 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 5: was right where he should have been. Year him up, 915 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 5: just where he's supposed to. 916 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 4: He did it. 917 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 5: He did it right as I've wanted it. And anyway, 918 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 5: so he's coming up. I see him and he pops 919 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 5: his head up just a little bit more while he's 920 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 5: still in strut, like sticks his neck out I guess, 921 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 5: probably looking for the hen that hadn't made a peep 922 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 5: sense and shooting him. And it was like the happiest 923 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 5: moment of my life. It was so awesome. 924 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: Okay, and so the the coolest part of this story 925 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 1: which I guess we didn't include, is that you took 926 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: uh the turkey back to your sorority house in like 927 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: the strip in Faede, Arkansas where the sorority at the 928 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: University of Arkansas, there's a what are they called they 929 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: called the. 930 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 5: It's on Maple Street where it's the sorority house is 931 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 5: just Sorority Road. 932 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: Row, Sorority Row. Yeah, like all these sorority houses. And 933 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: so you take the turkey back. 934 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 5: I take the turkey. I'll call my sister and I 935 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: tell her when I kill the turkey. He's like, I 936 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 5: get to tried out right now, I might try it 937 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 5: on right picture And. 938 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 6: Quick question, had any other girls from trying it out 939 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 6: brought turkeys that day? 940 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: No? 941 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 5: I the girls even know what a turkey was. I 942 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 5: don't even know what the animal was. Do I go 943 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 5: to try it? I meet my sister on the lawn 944 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 5: and we're sitting there getting ready to the picture, and 945 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 5: it's like people walk into class like the middle of 946 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 5: the yeah street. Oh yeah, they're shopping because it's right 947 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 5: in the middle of like right across where all the 948 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 5: classes are tried it out is and they're stopping and 949 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 5: they're like looking at what's. 950 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: Your camp turkey fan out and grass they're holding turkey, 951 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: smiling so proud, and everybody's walking. 952 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is so like awkwardly everybodys staring 953 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 5: at me right now. You are walking by taking pictures. 954 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if you know what yik yak is, 955 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 5: but yak yak was going crazy like a turkey girl 956 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 5: on tried out lawn right now, somebody figure out what's 957 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 5: going on right now? Is that it's like campus has it. 958 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 5: It's like where you just go and talk about ringdom stuff. 959 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 5: Everything's anonymous. So he's like, put a chat in and 960 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 5: like the whole university can see it, but it's all anonymous. 961 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: You don't know who puts the turkey girl. 962 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's like has anybody seen the curly camo 963 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 5: on tried out lawn right now? Like what's going on? 964 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 5: And anyway, So then we've been we were there for 965 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 5: like five minutes taking the pictures and our house mom 966 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 5: comes out and she's like, what is this, Holly, what 967 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 5: have you brought to our lawn? And handed my sister 968 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 5: she's a try out too, and she's like John, Mom, Jody, look, 969 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 5: she's got a turkey she got turkey, and Hannah's like 970 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 5: going crazy, like so pappy for me? And I'm like, yeah, 971 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 5: I got turkey. 972 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 4: Like is it's okay? 973 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 5: I'll take a couple of pictures. She's like, well, well 974 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 5: what is it? Like, why do you have this here? 975 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 5: Like what's. 976 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: What's so hard to understand this? 977 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 5: I'm like, mom's a turkey. 978 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: I just killed this. 979 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 5: She goes like okay, like why is it here? Like 980 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 5: what are you doing with it? And I'm like, I'm 981 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 5: just taking pictures with the story. 982 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna eat it. Yeah, and she well. 983 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 5: She did ask little bit. Shees, do you eat these? 984 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 5: Like do you plan on like skinning it here? And 985 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 5: I'm like no, no, no, I'm not gonna skin it here. 986 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 5: I was like taking a pictures but it. She goes, okay, 987 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 5: can I touch it? I was like, yeah, you can 988 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 5: touch it. 989 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 4: I don't care. 990 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 5: So she goes down to touch it. She like just points, 991 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 5: like barely taps and she goes, oh, it's soft, and 992 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, it's feathers. She goes she like 993 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 5: brushed her fingers. She's like, well, this is weird. Why 994 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 5: is it bigger than I thought it would be. 995 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: She's like she had a lot of questions. 996 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 5: She had so many question She was talking like, well, 997 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 5: do you want a picture? She I'm not touching it again, 998 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 5: so I hold on this side of her. 999 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 3: She gets on this side of me with it, and 1000 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 3: she was like hilarious. 1001 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 5: She thought it was a funny. She was taught me 1002 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 5: a couple of times. When I woke go to how 1003 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 5: she was yeah, no turkey and I'm like, no, no, 1004 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 5: more tickets are coming to the lawn this year. 1005 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: You get a reputation quick, Turkey girl on the lawn. 1006 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 5: Turkey girl try. 1007 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 4: It got spread very fast. 1008 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: Oh man. Yeah. So yeah, when I heard that, I 1009 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: was like, I was I was proud. I was like, 1010 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: I was like, probably like your dad. I was like, yeah, 1011 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: Josh told me the story last Yeah, whenever he interview, 1012 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: He's like, this girl took the turkey too, like downtown 1013 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: Fanville and took a picture of the lawn. 1014 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,959 Speaker 5: I was like, really, that's it was. It was talked 1015 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 5: about for a while. It was really funny. 1016 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1017 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 3: When Holly was telling me the story, I was just 1018 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 3: sitting there kind of with my mouth up and like 1019 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 3: it was funny. 1020 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1021 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, so the theme of I was going to 1022 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: talk about yeah, sometimes these themes kind of build themselves. 1023 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: But like safety and Gary nukelemb Gary believer in nukelem 1024 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: My dad, he had you like the hot tips of safe, 1025 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: I did. They were legit, Hey people, I Gary Nucomb 1026 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: a long time ago told me not to use bright 1027 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 1: colored mouthcalls. And back in the eighties and nineties people 1028 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: would make red and blue mouthcalls. They still do, they 1029 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: still do. Think about having this if this was bright 1030 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: blue and you heard it in the corner of your 1031 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: mouth walking around the woods. I mean, like just like 1032 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,479 Speaker 1: your turkey when it came up over the hill. First 1033 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: thing you saw, well, you saw at the tip of 1034 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: its fan, but a lot of times the first thing 1035 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: you see is it's heading right, and they're looking bright 1036 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: red or white or blue, and so you know, a 1037 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: turkey hunter is automatically keying in on a bright odd color, 1038 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 1: you know when a turkey's coming. And so anyway, Gary 1039 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: Neukomb was always like, do not use a blue turkey call. 1040 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: And I actually told Jason Phelps when we were designing 1041 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: this call these calls, I said, don't make them bright 1042 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: because they were making them sharp truths and some of 1043 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: these colors. And I was like I don't even want 1044 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: sharp truths because it's just bright. And like somebody's you know, 1045 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: got a beat on a shotgun thinking a turkey's coming 1046 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: and you're walking and they just see something bright. I mean, 1047 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: i'd say, you're it's not good. But Gary also taught me. 1048 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: He was like, don't wear a white T shirt and 1049 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: have like, you know a little because a couple of 1050 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: times I did when I was a kid, had a 1051 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: white shirt or something underneath camo. It was like, nope, 1052 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: go change your shirt and the other thing. Now, people 1053 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: may have used to wore high water pants a little 1054 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: bit more than they do today. But but like like 1055 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: when you if you'd sit down by a tree and 1056 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: your pants would kind of pull up and you were 1057 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: wearing like lower ankle boots or something, you'd see white socks. 1058 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, maybe that's a little paranoid, but Gary 1059 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 1: was like, nothing white, nothing bright. 1060 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 5: Whenever I was taking a kid turkey in for the 1061 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 5: first time, and he had like just like his pocket 1062 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 5: had like something white on Camo's T shirt or Camos shirt, 1063 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: but had like white. You can't wear that. He's like, 1064 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 5: it's very little, nobod's gonna see. He's like no, you're 1065 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 5: not wearing any color. Just kim only Kimo, like no 1066 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 5: color on your shirt and turkey, turkey, see and other 1067 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 5: people will see it. That's not happening. 1068 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then uh so the guy got so 1069 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: the Gary Farmer story where they call the turkeys. Now, okay, 1070 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: here's the behind the scenes thing that you wouldn't have known. 1071 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: It would have just made the turkey stories a little 1072 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: too heavy. 1073 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 1074 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: Two episodes ago, we did a we made a series 1075 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: called American Loggers. Okay, one of the best series we've 1076 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: done in probably Fantastics, and on American Loggers, Cody via 1077 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: Lines told us about Frankie Dale. Okay, Frankie Dale was 1078 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: a logger and they had some wild stories about Frankie Dale. Okay, 1079 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: Frankie Dale got killed. Like in the podcast, he tells 1080 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: me that Frankie Dale died. I didn't know that. The 1081 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: frank that is with Gary Farmer and they're working the 1082 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 1: turkey is Franki Dale. 1083 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 3: No way, no way, yes, frank. 1084 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: So wow, so two people on this podcast. 1085 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah so so Gary Farmer. Before he tells the story, 1086 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there with him, Yeah, I don't know this story. 1087 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: And he goes yeah, I was with Frankie Dale, and 1088 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: he said Frankidale died. He's and he told me the 1089 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: whole story of Frankydale died. And then he tells me 1090 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: the story that that you heard. Wow, And I just didn't. 1091 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have to explain who Frank, who 1092 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: Frank was and referred but it was just a little 1093 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: too complicated, So I kind of trimed that down. And 1094 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: so you hear him talking about Frank, Well, I was 1095 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: FRANKI Dale. 1096 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 2: Well, that's and that's what the renders. 1097 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: For and Frankedale the Yeah. And the more I learned 1098 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: about Frankie Dale, the more I wish I could do 1099 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: like a whole bear grease on this guy, Frankiedale from 1100 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: over in Anton County. He's They all just loved the guy. Yeah, 1101 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: pretty pretty unique guy. But but I love that story. 1102 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: Just the probability if if you were a mathematician and 1103 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 1: not a geologist, you can tell us the statistical probability 1104 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: of two guys going out in the woods working a 1105 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,240 Speaker 1: turkey shooting at the exact same time. 1106 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 5: I mean, And he said he waited to tell you 1107 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 5: Frank that he shot too, didn't He he didn't he 1108 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,720 Speaker 5: tell Frank that he shot until later, that's. 1109 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: Right, those guys. I noticed that about Gary and that 1110 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: whole bunch of guys. Yeah, if it would have been me, 1111 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: I would have been like, if Josh shot and claimed 1112 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: the turkey, I wouldn't have tried to fight him for 1113 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: the turkey, but I would have been like a shot too. 1114 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1115 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: But Gary just was like quiet about it, just kind 1116 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: of like and then later was like, I shot at 1117 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: the exact same time as you. That's wild, So. 1118 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 5: That he didn't tell it right then, I would have like, 1119 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 5: straight up so the same time, crazy. 1120 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought the same thing. Yeah. And 1121 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 1: then the story that Lake Pickle did down in Mississippi 1122 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: with James Quick. Those are always scary when somebody gets shot, 1123 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'd say that was a pretty severe yeah. Lot. 1124 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: You hear a lot of I mean, it's it's it's 1125 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: not great, but you hear a lot of stories of 1126 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: guys getting shot, and thankfully most of the time they're inconsequential. 1127 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: Getting shot turkey hunting. Yes, is that what you mean? 1128 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: Okay, but there's there's something new into the equation that 1129 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: hasn't been here before. But but this guy must have 1130 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: been pretty close for him to get two hundred pellets 1131 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: yet going through a jacket. 1132 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 3: He was shooting at him, and and he was close. 1133 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean he had to have been like twenty twenty 1134 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: five yards and uh. And then it was interesting. And 1135 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: now this was a long time ago. I think people 1136 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: would maybe well people would have had cell phones to day, right, 1137 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: But like this guy runs up to the guy that's 1138 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: laid on the ground and says, oh, I've killed a man, 1139 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: and then just takes off running. 1140 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1141 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: The guy's like perfectly alive. 1142 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1143 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 6: Plus it's heard. I mean I felt bad for him 1144 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 6: at least he went and got that. You know, at 1145 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 6: first I thought they were saying he ran off, saying 1146 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 6: he ran off and like just left him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1147 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 6: that was just that was I felt. I felt bad 1148 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,760 Speaker 6: for the guy who shot him. 1149 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh well, you heard what I said. And I think 1150 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: it's I think it's important for turkey hunters to be paranoid. 1151 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: It's okay to be paranoid, you know, yes, not about 1152 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: getting shot, Like, yeah, go ahead and be paranoid about 1153 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 1: getting shot. So that you're conservative in the way that 1154 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 1: you communicate, or you're not conservative, you're you're you're you're 1155 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: conservative in the way you maneuver through the woods and 1156 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: if you know somebody's over there, just like going way 1157 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: around or whatever. But I'm paranoid about shooting somebody. Yeah, 1158 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean when I when I carry a gun, and 1159 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: I've taught my kids this their whole life. When you 1160 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: and I man, I probably scared them to death when 1161 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: they were like nine years old started carrying a gun. 1162 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I vividly remember telling your son and my son, 1163 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this gun. And by me doing this, 1164 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 1: it could change your life, yep, because you now hold 1165 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: in your hand something that could kill a person. 1166 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 3: Yep. 1167 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: If you kill somebody, you cannot erase that. 1168 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 3: Yep. 1169 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, like put the fear of God in them. 1170 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1171 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 6: And uh and I also heard that, and I do 1172 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 6: not like to hold guns. 1173 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 3: I gave my kids that same lecture when they started driving, too, Yeah, 1174 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 3: because it's the same thing. 1175 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: It is. 1176 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 5: My dad was always like, treat every gun like it's loaded. 1177 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 5: If it's not loaded, it is loaded. Every gun's loaded. 1178 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 5: Never even like we're walking just in right here, but 1179 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 5: gun's like laying out here. If it was like pointing introduction, 1180 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 5: he'd be free, you know. I's gotta be putting away 1181 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 5: from everyone. 1182 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 4: Up all times. 1183 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. 1184 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 5: Everything's always loaded, even if it's not loaded, everything's always loaded. 1185 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. Well, and then to the story that 1186 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: the guy had buck shot. 1187 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's crazy that he didn't have it in 1188 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 5: first too, well it in. 1189 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: Second, you know, I think it was so long ago 1190 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: turkey loads probably were. Maybe people just didn't know. I mean, 1191 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: that guy clearly if he was using number seven bird 1192 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: shot in a buck shot, the guy didn't know anything about. 1193 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 4: Turkey and just shooting up movement. 1194 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he probably probably was. I don't know 1195 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: when it was, probably in the seventies or eighties is 1196 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: when it was, and probably just Brent went out there 1197 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: and didn't know much about it. Gary Newcomb was in 1198 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 1: a camp one time when a guy got shot. 1199 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 3: We were at that camp. 1200 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: We were hunting. 1201 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 3: But we were out. 1202 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: Hunting, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah, we were. 1203 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 3: Actually we were actually lost. 1204 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 1: There's a couple time one time we got lost. 1205 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, is that the same story that River was 1206 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 2: telling them? 1207 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: Why and it always comes up about this time of year. No, 1208 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: we we were twenty years ago and we were hunting 1209 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: and uh, probably being successful out there, and uh we 1210 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: came back to camp and they were like, boy, you 1211 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna believe what happened. And you know, somebody had. 1212 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: So there was a doctor with us, doctor John Mesco, 1213 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: who I need to have on this podcast. Some for 1214 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: some reason, it got to get John Mesco thought about 1215 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,240 Speaker 1: it for years, got to pull the trigger. John Mesco 1216 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 1: was in our camp and dad was there. And guy 1217 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: got shot and knew that doctor Mesco was camping, oh 1218 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: down here, and so he drove and found our camp 1219 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: and he had like seventeen pellets in his back and 1220 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,479 Speaker 1: John told him to take his shirt off, and John 1221 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: pulled out his pocket knife. No way, and starts plucking 1222 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: pellets out of his back. 1223 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 3: I think, think, think, And the guy that shot him 1224 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 3: had seen the old It was an older man. He 1225 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 3: had white hair, and he saw a tough the white 1226 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 3: hair thought it was a turkey heading shot. 1227 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And then and then most of the pellets, 1228 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 1: the pellets that were too deep to pluck out with 1229 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: a knife, John just said, don't even worry about him. 1230 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: Just wow, I'm not even sure the guy. We'd have 1231 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,280 Speaker 1: to get the story from John I'm not. I don't 1232 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: even know if the guy went to the doctor. 1233 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,959 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's crazy. Yeah, that's a good that said. 1234 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 3: Next Welcome to Polk County. 1235 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta have John 1236 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: Mesco on there. Okay, so your story had some safety elements. 1237 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: Gary Farmer's story had safety elements. That getting shot had 1238 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: some safety stuff. The other stories were so cool. I 1239 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: wish we could have had Zoe Kaywood. So the lady 1240 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,919 Speaker 1: that had the world turkey slam. 1241 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, she seems very interesting. 1242 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know that commercial with the most Interesting 1243 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 3: man in the world. I think she might be the 1244 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 3: most interesting woman in the world as far as hunting 1245 00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 3: and outdoors is concerned. 1246 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,280 Speaker 1: She wore a big turkey spur necklace. 1247 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 3: Beautiful amber beads with huge probably inch and what she said, 1248 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 3: inch and seven sixteenths Yeah, turkey spurs on him. 1249 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and uh she she lives over here at 1250 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: war Eagle, which is like just east of town. But 1251 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I thought, yeah that was cool. You Yeah, 1252 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: So she shot at a turkey and there was a 1253 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 1: bobcat coming in at the turkey, like at the exact 1254 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: moment she shot, and like she probably peppered the bobcat. Yeah, 1255 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,280 Speaker 1: when she killed the turkey. 1256 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 3: I heard that one with a flint lock, with a 1257 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 3: flintlock shotgun. 1258 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1259 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 3: Her husband, her husband is nine, I think he's ninety four. 1260 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 3: And he spent his he spent years as a custom 1261 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: gun maker. But he builds flintlocks, trade guns. 1262 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 1: And oh he so he's building her gun. 1263 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 3: He built and and there's a video too, we may 1264 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 3: need to post it at some point. But he has 1265 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 3: made her some incredibly beautiful ornate rifles that are just 1266 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 3: at and he hand forges the steading, not the not 1267 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 3: the flintlock mechanism, but all the all the work on 1268 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 3: the rest of the gun hand forges. And I mean, 1269 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 3: just an incredibly gifted man. And she said, she said, 1270 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 3: when I met Charlie, his name is Charlie Kawood, I 1271 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 3: put up my cartridge guns. And she has only shot 1272 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 3: flintlock since then. 1273 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:32,720 Speaker 5: Wow. 1274 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 3: That's and she's killed a turkey World Slam with a 1275 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 3: with a flint lock. 1276 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 1277 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really cool. 1278 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is cool, speaking of killing turkeys with non 1279 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: traditional weapons. Okay, uh lake pickle my, I kind of 1280 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean you could debate, there could be a debate 1281 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: of who would be the mentor and who would be 1282 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: in turkey hunting. It could be a debate of but 1283 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,760 Speaker 1: I'd say Lake is kind of my mentor ish ish. 1284 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: Thanks listening now, Lake, don't let it go to your head, Like, 1285 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: don't let it go to your head. No, Lake. Lake 1286 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: is like a turkey killed, my master turkey hunter. He 1287 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,959 Speaker 1: and Jordan blissed. Lake is so funny when it comes 1288 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: to people bow hunting turkeys or using four tens, or 1289 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 1: using any weapon that is any sort of limitation. He's 1290 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: just like, no, he just and he learned that from 1291 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: Will Primos. Just like quit the cute stuff. Turkeys are 1292 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: made to be called up and killed. It's like, don't 1293 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: bowhunt them, and and and and. Part of having your 1294 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: own podcast is that you can divulge information about your 1295 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: friends that they tell you to the world. If they 1296 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: tell you stuff, they tell you stuff, they just know 1297 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 1: that you're probably gonna say it. 1298 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 2: They need to say off the record. 1299 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Brent's Lake and brenton everybody just say off the record, 1300 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,439 Speaker 1: I might not say it. Brent Turkey headed with Lake 1301 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: last week and Brent had a four to ten oh 1302 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 1: and uh, and Lake was like no, he it was 1303 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: a joke. But and then what happened. There was a 1304 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,479 Speaker 1: turkey at like fifty yards that my dear friend Brent 1305 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot because it's four ten, No. 1306 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 2: What and defoulding everybody's dirty laundry. 1307 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: This is not really dirty loundry. Okay, no, no, no, 1308 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: But like his philosophy is just like carry the best gun. 1309 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: I say that in relation to the flintlock, and I 1310 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: kind of believe that. I don't. It's not like, wait, 1311 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: believe what it's not. It's not bad to use a 1312 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: bow or a flint lo Like, that's not what I'm 1313 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: saying when I call it a turkey. I just wanted 1314 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: to come home with me. 1315 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, other animals, yes, that way about everything. 1316 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: No, not at all, Like I want to use a 1317 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: traditional bow for different things, and I'm okay with limiting 1318 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: myself with in in other ways. 1319 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 6: I think it's because turkeys are so scarce, like it's 1320 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 6: so hard to get one. It's hard to find one. 1321 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 6: It's hard to Yeah, and you think that's why it is. 1322 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard. 1323 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean really like turkeys around here are prize 1324 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 6: possessions are and Lake is so good He's given us 1325 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 6: a couple. 1326 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 2: But it's so it felt a little bit like feasts. 1327 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Late didn't give us a turkey misty 1328 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: because Clay had something to do with it. 1329 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 3: Because Clay couldn't get one, you had to get something. 1330 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think actually did give us 1331 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 2: some extra turkey city. 1332 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: Oh you actually mean gave us turkey meat. 1333 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 2: Turkey meat is what I'm talking about. Yeah, turkey me. 1334 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: This is the this is the part I thought she 1335 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: was saying that when I went hunting with Lake that 1336 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: he gave me with one. That's about the way it happens. 1337 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 3: Clay closes his eyes and then Lake just moves the 1338 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: shot and so tells him one to pull the tricker exactly. 1339 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 6: But it's it's so it's I mean, you've it's kind 1340 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 6: of like you've got just a little bit of turkey 1341 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 6: meet every year. 1342 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 2: So it is around here like a real special thing 1343 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 2: when it comes in. 1344 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,959 Speaker 1: There's probably more turkeys up here than where you're from. 1345 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's like really hardly where I'm from. 1346 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 2: Really yeah. 1347 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all flatlands down there. 1348 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, row crop stuff. 1349 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 6: The other day, I was driving in the River Valley 1350 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 6: part of Arkansas, and I was in a neighborhood and 1351 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 6: there was a man outside in pajama pants, and there 1352 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 6: was a turkey in the middle of the road. I 1353 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 6: took a picture and sent it on the family thread. 1354 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 6: But you were, you were, and I don't know if 1355 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 6: you saw it because of where you were, and this 1356 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 6: turkey and this man were having a standoff. The turkey 1357 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 6: was in the streets, and I mean, turkeys are pretty 1358 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 6: rare sightings. And this was downtown, you know, like in 1359 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 6: a in a busy part of the It's a small community, 1360 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 6: but still a busy I don't know. It was to 1361 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 6: the man perceived as a violent turkey, and the man 1362 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 6: had like a broomstick or something, and the turkey would 1363 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 6: stand up and the man would go out there with 1364 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 6: his broomstick. 1365 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: What city was this in, You can tell me. It 1366 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 1: was an Alma, It was a It was a tame turkey. 1367 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 6: And the turkey would when the man would hold up 1368 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 6: the broomstick, the turkey would hunker back down. And I 1369 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 6: tried to film it, but the man was in his 1370 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 6: pajamas and wow, and I didn't want to. 1371 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 2: I didn't want to. 1372 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: How did I not hear about this? 1373 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 6: Well, you were, you were in the Arctic. I put 1374 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 6: it on the family thread and I was like, hey, 1375 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 6: this is a. 1376 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Bad video because you were worried about this guy in 1377 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: his pajama. 1378 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 6: I did video. I put the video. It just wasn't 1379 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 6: high quality. The guy seemed to have a lot going 1380 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 6: on and he was very uh. And I came back 1381 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 6: around a second time to. 1382 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Oh, wow, you did oh I did. 1383 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1384 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:52,919 Speaker 6: And I think that second time the guy was starting 1385 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 6: to because the first time I was like real sensitive 1386 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 6: and didn't want to get but I looked at my. 1387 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Video running off a turkey with a broom. 1388 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 2: Well he never ran it off. I was sentenced. 1389 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: What color was it like turkey? It was like black, 1390 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: like dark color. Yeah. I just want to make sure 1391 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't a white. 1392 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 6: Charcoal yeah yeah, No, I mean it was a It 1393 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 6: looked like it could look like a wild tur It 1394 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 6: looked like it could have been a domestic used to. 1395 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Have a bunch of wild turkey. 1396 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 6: We had, we had, we had domesticated wild turkeys here. 1397 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 2: They were violent. 1398 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 6: I mean when I saw what that man was doing 1399 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 6: and I was like, I know. 1400 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so Holly, I got to tell you this. 1401 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: So we had like seven we bought them. You know 1402 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 1: from a babies, but they were sold as wild turkeys. 1403 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: They weren't wild, but they were the strain of wild turkeys. 1404 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: And as a yeah, and two of them minted up 1405 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: living and for a long time they were monsters and 1406 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: they would prey on weakness. So if you really if children, children, 1407 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: old women and people that limped or had cast on 1408 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: like there was there was, I mean that's how they lost. 1409 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: So the turkeys would see a car drive up and 1410 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 1: they would they would strut up to the car and 1411 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: if like a grown man and a kid got out 1412 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: of the car, they'd go straight to that kid. 1413 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 2: They would come across the yard. 1414 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 6: That's how I remember it is they would be they 1415 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 6: had a little roost and when they had a little cage, 1416 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,919 Speaker 6: and then they would see like, oh this we had 1417 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 6: we had a neighbor that walked with a limp, and 1418 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 6: when they would see him get out. 1419 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: Of his car, they would just. 1420 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 6: Be lining over to him and just attack them. They 1421 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 6: were monsters. They were monster. 1422 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's why she went and. 1423 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 4: That old man out there. 1424 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 2: For the guy in his pajamas. 1425 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, I got to see this video now, 1426 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: probably put it on Instagram. 1427 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,959 Speaker 6: No, it's not a high quality video and we don't 1428 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 6: know that person, and he was petrified. The thing is 1429 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 6: is that there was a lot. I was there for 1430 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 6: an event and I went inside, I came out and 1431 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 6: he was there. 1432 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Still fighting the turkey. 1433 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, and you could stand off and. 1434 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 6: That's and the turkey would go and drop down. The 1435 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 6: turkey was like semi intimidated. 1436 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: But do you think he needed help? I did, but 1437 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: should we go check on it? 1438 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,439 Speaker 6: Tried to actually make contact with him, That's what I'm saying. 1439 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 6: I felt like a lot was going on and he 1440 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 6: I could tell you didn't appreciate that. The spectator, Yeah. 1441 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah that is something. Wow. Well uh so let's see. Yeah, 1442 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: z Ok would And then Mike Chamberlaine his story Turkey Dot. 1443 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: He was great to hear him. And then Andy Brown's story. 1444 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Andy Brown, I mean, what a guy. 1445 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 3: Tory Tayler, laureate of Bear Greet. 1446 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 2: I mean really he. 1447 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 6: I actually was listening to it on fast speed and 1448 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 6: I stopped it and rewound it and listened to it 1449 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 6: on slow sweet so I could. 1450 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 5: So. 1451 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 1: Andy was the guy that told the story of him 1452 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: and his best buddy going hunting, walking away off the 1453 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: mountain killing the turkey, and he thought his buddy shot 1454 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: way too far and he shot twice and the guy. 1455 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: The punchline of the story was, well I killed two 1456 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: and he said, well watch you shoot? He said, I 1457 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: killed two. Andy Andy has probably had a turkey story 1458 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: on every episode of Turkey Stories, and that story would 1459 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: have been like way down the list. I mean, when 1460 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: I first started going to Andy to get stories, you know, 1461 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 1: he kind of told me his what in his mind 1462 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: would have been top tier stories. And usually so I've 1463 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: been doing this long enough that you kind of know 1464 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 1: people that have stories and you'll go to them. And 1465 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: I find that most really even really good turkey hunters 1466 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: that are older, maybe have two or three, like really 1467 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: great stories. Maybe they have a hundred stories of like 1468 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: calling up a turkey and killing it and it's a 1469 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: wonderful thing that happened, you know, but but maybe they 1470 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: just have a handful of stories of or something really 1471 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: unique happened, and you know, you kind of get those 1472 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: stories from him, and you call them back the next 1473 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: year and they're like, man, I mean I killed turkey 1474 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: last year, but I mean it just kind of just 1475 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,439 Speaker 1: kind of came in and killed it and not much 1476 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to it. Man. You go to Andy Brown, I think 1477 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 1: probably been going to him now four or five years, 1478 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: and he just keeps giving the stories. 1479 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 3: I've decided that it's less about him having an inordinate 1480 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 3: number of good stories as just him being a good storyteller. 1481 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: And a good laugher and a great Every single he 1482 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 1: builds the story, every single one just takes you by 1483 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: the hand, right till the moment when he just. 1484 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 5: He barely got like his part of the part that 1485 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 5: you wanted to say out before you sort of died. 1486 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 2: Laugh. 1487 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh that's that's and that was a 1488 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: that was a good story. But uh, well we're gonna 1489 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: do one more Turkey Stories episode. Uh and man, we 1490 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: hadn't even talked to Holly about trot lining. You were 1491 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: supposed to go trot lining today. 1492 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 5: Oh yes, well I didn't get to go to Dave 1493 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 5: I did the past two days. 1494 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Was tru when when Josh invited you, hear you were like, You're. 1495 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 3: Like, I'm on spring break. I'm like, oh, are you 1496 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:23,360 Speaker 3: at the beach? 1497 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 2: Are you skiing? 1498 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 3: She's like, no, I'm trot lining. 1499 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1500 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1501 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 5: He called me and he's like, can you come next? 1502 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 5: Started I was like I'm coming down South Arkansas, but 1503 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 5: I'll figured it. I'm going trout line bald, move it 1504 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 5: up some. So yeah, we went down there and went 1505 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 5: down South Garton like gird in Arkansas, and okay, we 1506 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 5: were on the river. I had a family friend with 1507 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 5: us and then his grandson who I have since taken. 1508 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 5: I take him turkey hunting now, okay, and we have 1509 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 5: a lot of interesting stories with him. But he is 1510 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 5: eating up with all the hunting. And he's probably thirteen, 1511 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 5: I think. And we were down there trot lining, and 1512 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 5: we actually on the first day, I only I don't 1513 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 5: I think I've ever been trot lying. I mean, this 1514 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:02,959 Speaker 5: is probably one of my first couple of times going. 1515 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 5: And if I did, I was younger. And so we 1516 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 5: were reeling the man. We got like three or four 1517 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 5: like smaller ones, and then we get to one and 1518 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 5: uh the Greg, the older guy, and he was like, oh, 1519 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 5: this is a big one. 1520 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 4: This is a big one. 1521 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 5: Like you get on the front of the boat, you 1522 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 5: get ready. And so I'm like, okay, do you mean 1523 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 5: a nettar? Do you mean to pull the line? And Harper's like, no, ho, 1524 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 5: you net it? You needed it because it's gonna be 1525 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 5: more fun than net. So Harper's up here pulling this 1526 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 5: line up and he can't even hardly pull the line, 1527 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh dear, this is a huge one. 1528 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 5: And he's like lean over the boat, and I'm like 1529 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,600 Speaker 5: scared that he's mixinga fall in the water, and so 1530 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh crap, he's mixing to fall over. And 1531 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 5: so I'm working up. I'm watching Harper instead of the fish, 1532 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 5: and Greg's like, get the dad down, get the net down, 1533 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 5: and I'm like what, I didn't know what to do. 1534 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 5: So I'm like sitting here like trying to get the 1535 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 5: net under the fish. Well I didn't get deep enough 1536 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 5: because the fish was so long. 1537 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 4: Oh wow, And so it almost got off. 1538 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 5: The hook and gir goes o leave and I'm like, oh, 1539 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 5: so we like scoop it as it's like barely even 1540 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 5: on like barely hung on the hook, like it had 1541 01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 5: a guy in its most of the way off a while, 1542 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 5: and we get it in the boat and we Harper 1543 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 5: on our boat like teamwork can get it in the boat, 1544 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 5: and we're get like, wow, this is awesome. Like it 1545 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 5: was like a twenty seven or twenty eight pounds was awesome. 1546 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 5: I was like, Wow, this is. 1547 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 3: So fun fish. 1548 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: What what kind of flathead? Flathead? 1549 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 4: A flat cab? It was awesome. 1550 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 5: And we caught nine that run. And then with the 1551 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 5: next day and we had more. Our boat lowers. Our 1552 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,679 Speaker 5: boat was so full. The next day we had three. 1553 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,600 Speaker 5: He had his other daughter and her three kids and 1554 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,479 Speaker 5: they're all young, like under ten, and they got crazy 1555 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 5: that they fished fisher getting off that day. 1556 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: We didn't get all of. 1557 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,720 Speaker 5: Them that day. I got like three or four that 1558 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 5: day and they went this morning and I was reeling 1559 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 5: in or I was pulling up the last line and 1560 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 5: I was like, it starts pulling me and I'm like, oh, 1561 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 5: we got one, we got one. And it ends up. 1562 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 5: We see the fin of the fish and it's like 1563 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 5: a big one and it dies down our log and 1564 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 5: get this help unhooked under a log. 1565 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 1: That happened this morning this morning. Oh wow, you were 1566 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: pulling a big fish out this morning. 1567 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:43,719 Speaker 5: This morning. 1568 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 4: I was pulling it out and it got away from 1569 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 4: But because we. 1570 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,919 Speaker 1: Were trying to we're trying to get around flathead. 1571 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 4: We were trying to get around. 1572 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 5: The boat switched aroun because we had all the kids 1573 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 5: in the front and we needed we need Greg in 1574 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 5: the front and not the kids to get this big 1575 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 5: one in and it ended up getting ondo the log 1576 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 5: before you get everybody switched around. 1577 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a lot of fun, a lot of fun. 1578 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 2: Fish fry fish. 1579 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 4: Yes, we did. 1580 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 5: The past two nights for dinner, we've had the fish. 1581 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 1: Said did they have a camp down there or something? 1582 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,600 Speaker 5: They have a nice cabin out there, and they have 1583 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 5: they do cattle out there. 1584 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 4: They have a whole cattle farm and everything. 1585 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 1: So you're on the Washtar River. 1586 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,760 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if that one was the washing off, 1587 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 4: but it is right next to. 1588 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: The washed all Washtar rivers over there. I've got I 1589 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 1: got to tell a story about Girdon, Arkansas as we close. 1590 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 1: As we close. So I in high school had a 1591 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 1: friend in garden and I went down there a couple 1592 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: of times and hunted with him and fished with him 1593 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 1: and frog gigged with him. Okay, I met him at 1594 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: Boise State. Just went to Girden a couple of times. 1595 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: My freshman year at the University of Arkansas. Well, that 1596 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 1: would have been on a sophomore year because I went 1597 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: to Tech first. I was in this huge auditorium in 1598 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: one of one of the big class one I don't 1599 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: know where it was, University of Arkansas. And I'm you know, 1600 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm setting looking this way and I don't even know 1601 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: who's behind me, and I hear a guy talk and 1602 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 1: right directly behind me, and I just just overhear what 1603 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: he's saying. And he's not talking about anything that I 1604 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: could knew anything about. But I just turned around and 1605 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: looked at him and I said, you're from Gurdon, Arkansas, 1606 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 1: aren't you? And he went yeah, And he said how 1607 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: do you know that? And I said, I could tell 1608 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,559 Speaker 1: by the way you talk. Wow, like his accent. Really, Yeah, 1609 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard. I don't know I find. I 1610 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 1: mean it's it's there are different accents everywhere. I mean, 1611 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: you go from. 1612 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 5: Interesting, I would say the guy that I'm talking about, Greg, 1613 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 5: that lives down there, I would say, he does have 1614 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 5: an accent compared to most of other people. 1615 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what it might have been. I'd 1616 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: just been down there and and heard my buddy, you know, 1617 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 1: just been in that community and it was different enough 1618 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,640 Speaker 1: from my where I grew up that I just my 1619 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,680 Speaker 1: ear caught it and I didn't even I didn't ask him. 1620 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 1: It was I just turned around and I said you're 1621 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: from Gardon, Arkansas, aren't you? And he was like, yeah, 1622 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 1: how can you tell? I can just tell by the 1623 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 1: way you talk. And that's the last time I heard 1624 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: of that guy. 1625 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 5: Anything. 1626 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I probably did. I don't remember, that's all 1627 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,600 Speaker 1: I remember. I just called him out and he was like, 1628 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: really surprised. You know, this is before social media and stuff, 1629 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: and you. 1630 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 3: Know, and what's the what's the social media? 1631 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 2: This is before you get. 1632 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 1: This way before you Well, Holly, it's so nice to 1633 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 1: meet you. Thank you for telling your story. That was awesome. 1634 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: Go go gather up another story and you can come back. Yes, Uh, 1635 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 1: is there anything else that we needed to talk about. 1636 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 3: I think we covered it all, Holly. 1637 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: Anything you need to tell the world any more shout outs? 1638 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: You need to show. 1639 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 5: Me everything. 1640 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Obviously I can tell to tell you got your. 1641 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 5: Shout out in our friend, our family friend Park. He's 1642 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,679 Speaker 5: like telling me all the other hunting minus turkey. 1643 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: Okay, shout out, shout out to cousin, Trevor and Dad. 1644 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 5: And that's something though for and Greg. 1645 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, all right, Well it's Turkey week at 1646 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 1: Meat Eater. Go get you some Phelps game calls Man 1647 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: the dead gum. First Light Turkey line is good. They've 1648 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: got new dark water in the first light. That's what 1649 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gonna be wearing. It's good. Man got 1650 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 1: a new first light Turkey Vest too. But keep the 1651 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: wild places wild because that's where the bears live.