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Speaker 1: Am I the ahole from forcing my husband to stop

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Speaker 1: seeing my sister because he won't stop debating with her

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Speaker 1: and her husband.

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Speaker 2: Debating about what but that? Three? So we tried to

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Speaker 2: swing it with the cis debating about who's going farks?

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Speaker 3: Oh yikes, I mean I will you know it's Reddit.

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Speaker 3: I would have put a basket. Let's read it. It

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Speaker 3: has happened before, and it will happen again. It will

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Speaker 3: happen again.

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Speaker 2: Before the clock strikes midnight.

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Speaker 1: My sister Marie twenty nine and her husband Zach forty

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Speaker 1: had their first child, a beautiful baby girl, two months ago. Congrats, congrats.

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Speaker 1: They have been pretty nervous parents. So when my husband

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Speaker 1: Tom forty two and I thirty seven were invited to

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Speaker 1: meet our niece, I was thrilled, except I was worried

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Speaker 1: about Tom making an ass out of himself.

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Speaker 2: Does Tom often make an ass out of himself?

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom, He's just clearly the worst human being

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Speaker 1: on planet Earth.

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Speaker 2: That's why I married him, obviously, Dude. The red flags,

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Speaker 2: the red red flags.

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Speaker 3: God, It's like, it's like, I hate going over to

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Speaker 3: my family's house because my husband is an asshole.

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Speaker 2: Like, Bro, why do you marry what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: You see, Tom and Marie have always had a hard

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Speaker 1: time getting along because they do not agree on nearly anything.

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Speaker 1: Tom has always gotten a kick out of challenging Marie

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Speaker 1: on their differing views because they're both very opinionated.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, this is a recipe for disaster. Okay, But

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Speaker 3: to be fair, I love a good debate.

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Speaker 2: That Samuel loves a good debate. I love a good debate.

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Speaker 3: I've learned to over the past few years, though, I've

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Speaker 3: learned to kind of go with the flow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just depends on the vibe.

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Speaker 1: Like some people are like down for discussion and some

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Speaker 1: people are not down for that.

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Speaker 3: You just have to gauge how emotionally invested someone is. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and emotionally invested they are in defending their side.

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Speaker 2: The more you argue, yeah.

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Speaker 1: The more you poke a little more, the more you

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Speaker 1: twist the exactly. And the thing is, to Tom, it's

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Speaker 1: funny to watch Marie react when he says things to

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Speaker 1: provoke her like we just said, of course, and Marie

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Speaker 1: always wants to prove his views wrong. In his head

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Speaker 1: because she was in grad school for social science she

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Speaker 1: finished right before having her baby, and is knowledgeable about

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Speaker 1: the topics that Tom wants to argue about. Marie shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with debating because it's literally her job.

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Speaker 2: Bro, it's her job, bro, her job. She's done for

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Speaker 2: school for she just went to school for it. What.

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Speaker 1: In the past, both Tom and Marie have initiated these arguments,

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Speaker 1: and they have both been guilty of taking it too far.

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Speaker 2: But oh god, what are the argue? It's like political?

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Speaker 2: I hope we find out.

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Speaker 1: But ever since she got pregnant and had a baby,

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Speaker 1: Marie has calmed down a lot, whereas Tom still tries

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Speaker 1: to bait her into doing debates about touchy subjects, mainly

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Speaker 1: politics and personal bodies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I think we got to, you know, two

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Speaker 2: different people.

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Speaker 1: This got to a point where Marie blocked him on

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Speaker 1: all social media.

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Speaker 3: If you want to, oh, Tom, dude, just like read

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Speaker 3: the route.

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Speaker 2: I understand.

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Speaker 3: I I you know, I love a good debate as

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Speaker 3: much as the next guy. But if you're like causing

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Speaker 3: problems and people have said, like yo, stop it, just stop,

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Speaker 3: so stop worth it? Literally join the debate club or

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Speaker 3: like toastmasters and debate.

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Speaker 1: But you could debate the You could just say that

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Speaker 1: your speeches are about how stupid toast Masters is.

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Speaker 2: Then then you'll get some debates, get some spirit of debates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before we went to visit, I asked Tom to

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Speaker 1: be nice to Marie and Zach and not start anything.

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Speaker 1: Tom's like, fuck you, I'm gonna do what I want.

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Speaker 1: Tom said he would try his best. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: sweet sweet Tom. I told him I would be very

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Speaker 1: upset with him if he tried debate Marie or Zach

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Speaker 1: into an argument. Tom started out the evening pretty strong

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Speaker 1: and be kept to himself until it was revealed that

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Speaker 1: Zach was going to be the one to stay home

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Speaker 1: with the daughter.

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Speaker 2: How dare you?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Tom is pretty conservative one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how how to stay home and love your daughter?

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Speaker 1: You filthy piece of like slime garbage. You literally like

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Speaker 1: ponds com. You don't deserve, like like you don't deserve

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Speaker 1: to be ship out of my ass, Like like you

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Speaker 1: know you're not even.

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Speaker 3: A microbe on my ship that's about to be flushed out.

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Speaker 1: That's like too generous for you, you disgusting human being,

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Speaker 1: pond scum.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I got that from uh Wolf of Wall Street, and

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Speaker 3: there's this line where it's like you are garbage. You

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Speaker 3: are Ponds coum. You are worse than Ponds. Com you

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Speaker 3: dial the phones. There's some coke to make you dial faster.

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Speaker 1: And so Tom made a comment like, oh, I thought

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Speaker 1: the mom was supposed to do that, yo, who cares?

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Speaker 1: Zach said it was pretty sexist for Tom to say that, true,

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Speaker 1: And when Tom asked how, Zach told him about how

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Speaker 1: that moms have careers too, and that Marie shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: to give up all the hard work.

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Speaker 2: She just did.

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Speaker 3: I think that is yeah, agreed. I think that is

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Speaker 3: uh classic, classic, classic, classic job double down.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom started on a tangent and Marie cut

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Speaker 1: him off and told him to either quit or leave

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Speaker 1: because she is done entertaining his nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Which good for her. I mean, yeah, you like like

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Speaker 2: I have a new baby, I'm done, dude, and stop.

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Speaker 2: And it's like a personal choice, yo.

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Speaker 1: All.

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Speaker 3: I also like, I feel like ops giving Tom a

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Speaker 3: little bit too much credit. It's like, oh, like he

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Speaker 3: loves discussing political and personal ideologytual. Yeah, it makes it

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Speaker 3: sound like Tom is some like intellectual philosopher where he's like,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty pretty dumb that your husband is trying to

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Speaker 3: take care of your baby.

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Speaker 4: What are you some kind of nerd lady? What are

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Speaker 4: you a vagina lip? Where are you some kind of libtard?

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Speaker 4: Many genders are there due?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Tom just laughed us off, but it was still very

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Speaker 1: awkward after this. We didn't stay for long after, and

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Speaker 1: when we got home, I told Tom that I am

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Speaker 1: done with him embarrassing me and that he is not

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Speaker 1: allowed to join me whenever I visit Marie again. True,

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Speaker 1: that's right, if I'm even invited back?

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Speaker 2: Oh man.

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Speaker 1: I told him that it doesn't make him look smart

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Speaker 1: when he always insists on having these conversations and it

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Speaker 1: just makes him look like an ass and a fool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't make him sound smart at all. The opposite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom said I'm blowing this way out of proportion

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Speaker 1: and that it's not his fault. And they got so

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Speaker 1: offended and if anything, they were rude to kick him

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Speaker 1: out over his opinion. But Marie didn't do anything to

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Speaker 1: him this time. She didn't snap back at him, she

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Speaker 1: didn't call him names. She just asked him to stop.

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Speaker 1: So am I being the a hole? Am I unreasonable?

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Speaker 3: I think like Marie is just kind of like sick

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Speaker 3: of his shit and has learned to adapt. H But

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Speaker 3: it's like I feel like she's just become the bigger

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Speaker 3: person and so she's like, Okay, I'm not gonna I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna stop. I'm not into it and then just

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Speaker 3: shut it down rather than like take the bait. Pretty shitty,

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Speaker 3: pretty shitty, Like I don't. I don't, I don't, So

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Speaker 3: to be clear, I don't. I don't think op he

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Speaker 3: is the a hole, yes, right, because just because someone

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Speaker 3: is not taking the bait and being like and like

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Speaker 3: blowing up, does not mean that the behavior that Tom

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Speaker 3: is is like uh doing is acceptable and like someone

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Speaker 3: should put him in check and to let him know like, hey,

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Speaker 3: this is not okay, even though it didn't cause reaction,

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Speaker 3: like you're still being a deck.

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Speaker 1: I think that they should like go to anytime he does,

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Speaker 1: like if he wants to keep saying stupid shit, they

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Speaker 1: should like go to like a boxing ring and then

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Speaker 1: put like forty pounds like weights like tied like Edward

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Speaker 1: forty hands, just like to wrap up his hands so

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Speaker 1: he literally like can't lift his hands and then just

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Speaker 1: let Mary beat this shit out of him.

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Speaker 3: That's for saying my husband couldn't stay Home to Punishment,

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Speaker 3: Tommy Tom Toms some correction.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry,