1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to say Here, a production of I 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and as I'm more in Vogel Bomb, and 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: today we're talking about dandelions. Yes, and thanks to Jamie 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: for the suggestion. Is this our first like flower flower? Uh? 5 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's funny because you you ask that, 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: and I guess I don't think of dandelions primarily for 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: their flowers as a food stuff. I think of them 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: primarily for their leaves. Um. So uh. Either way, the 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: answer to the question is, uh, this is really something 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: that I would have to like search our keywords for 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: in order to tell you. I guess that's yeah. I 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: guess that's fair because I perhaps clearly don't have a 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: lot of experience eating dandelions, um leaves. I have had them. 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: I have had them. I've had dandelion t I'm not 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: sure I've ever had the fire itself. But I grew 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: up in I was very fortunate in that we had 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: a yard for most of my childhood and they were 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: dandelions everywhere. And I love them. I loved them obviously, 19 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: not as a food but as wish granting devices. Oh sure, yeah, 20 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: very important, very important for that. Yes, yeah, that that 21 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: is also my primary experience with dandelions, although yeah, I 22 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: just find them delightful. I moved relatively recently from from 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: a place with a lot of yard to a place 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: with a town a little yard, so um, so I 25 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: don't have access to quite as many wishmaking devices this year, 26 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: but it's okay. I might have enough for a very 27 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: small salad though. There you go, there you go. Oh yeah, 28 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: And I just have to say I've had that song 29 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Dandelion stuck in my head throughout this Oh I don't see, 30 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know that song. 31 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know I could google it, I suppose. Well, 32 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: the theme of it is like she's asked, like her mom, 33 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: the singer's mom asked her, what's your favorite flower? And 34 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: she says dandelion, and she's like, honey, that's not a flower. 35 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: That is just a weed. That's all about that. Heck 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: and rude it is. And we're going to talk about 37 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: some of that in this very episode. We will, which 38 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: I suppose brings us to our question. It does dandelions, 39 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: what are they? Well, dandelions are just delightfully bitter little 40 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: packets of sunshine. I love that, So I one of 41 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: my favorite, my very favorite nicknames that anyone's ever given 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: me his bright side. But at the time, I was 43 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: with one of my best friends and we were on 44 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: this hiking trip and she it was my idea, and 45 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: by the end I think she would have murdered me 46 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: if she could. But um, people called her Sunshine because 47 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: she I would be like, look on the bright side, 48 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: insert you know, bright side thing here, and she'd be like, well, 49 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: if you think about the chemicals in the grass that 50 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: do that, Like she always makes like a negative, So 51 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: people called her sarcastically sunshine, like bitter little. I love you, Katie, 52 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: if you're listening. Oh that's great, that's wonderful. Yes, uh yeah, 53 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: hi Katie. And uh Dandelions, yes, uh yeah. They They 54 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: are a plant that grow from a seed into a 55 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: into a short, short, little plant buddy up to about 56 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: a foot or third of a meter, with a skinny, 57 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: slightly bulbous route to tender leaves and stems um usually 58 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: a single stem per plant there and a bright yellow 59 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: or yellow and white flower um. And these flower heads 60 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: are actually dense collections of like a couple of hundred 61 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: individual flowers which will develop into individual, stiff, little fruits. 62 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: Um uh kind of fruit in scare quotes, they're consisting 63 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: of a of a sort of single seed packet with 64 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: this fine threaded parachute attached. Okay um, and that's what's 65 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: going on when dandelions go all like white and fluffy 66 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: and yeah, you can blow on them to make a 67 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: wish um and disperse the seeds and possibly piss off 68 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: your neighbors. Uh. Dandelions grow in temperate regions of mostly 69 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: the northern hemisphere there in the sunflower family. That's um asterassier, 70 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: along with stuff like daisies, lettuces, chicory, and artichokes. Um 71 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: and shout out to producer Andrew's cat astrid. Yes, aster 72 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: means star because I kind of a lot of these 73 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: flowers sort of look like stars. So asteroid anyway. Yeah, um, 74 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: but yeah, artichokes and dandelions, so you know, you know 75 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: the kind of unpleasant sort of thorny choke part of artichokes. Yeah, um, 76 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: that's a similar seed dispersal system to the dandelion because 77 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: these tiny hairs, like bristly hairs developed to carry the 78 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: seeds away. Yeah. You know, this episode is really made 79 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: me respect the dandelion, Like I've I've never been somebody 80 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: who didn't like them. Um, perhaps there's a different life 81 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: where I would have been, but I I've always loved him. 82 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: But this has made me be like, oh wow, So 83 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: there's all these like different little plants in this flower 84 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: and then it does this thing where, yeah, it becomes 85 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: a parachute, and I don't know, I just find it 86 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah. No, it's super fascinating. And I went 87 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: on a little bit of a rabbit hole about it because, 88 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: um in dandelion's recent research into those hairs or bristles, 89 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: which by the way, are called pappas um, which is 90 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: a word that roots from the same root as grandfather, 91 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: because the bristles reminded someone of a white beard. Yeah yeah, 92 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: so so yeah, so so these hairs are bristles. There's 93 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: been recent research into how they helped the seeds float, 94 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: and that research indicated that the structures catch air up 95 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: in this type of vortex called a vortex ring, which 96 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: is a sort of air bubble that was previously thought 97 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: to be too unstable to exist, but dandelion seeds make 98 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: it go. Um, the hairs make them stable. Um, so yeah, 99 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: dandelion seeds can fly more than the kilometer, like well 100 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: over half a mile. That's so cool. I love it. 101 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: We are hypothetically a food show. Okay. Um yeah, those 102 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: those seeds are like the only part that is not eaten. 103 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: The rest of the plant is edible, from root to flour. 104 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: The greens can be used as any. Greens are raw 105 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: in alids, though they are on the bitter end, especially 106 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: when they're more mature, like later on in the summer. 107 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Um So usually you're gonna try to pick them a 108 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: young like like spring season leaves for for eating with salads. 109 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: Or you can cook them, especially when you get them 110 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: later and they're a little bit more bitter. Either alone 111 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: is a side dish, or you can cook it into 112 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: soups or stews or pastas or omelets or savory pies 113 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: other dishes. Um Or you can use it as more 114 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: of like an herb, like a an a pesto or 115 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: something like that. The flowers can be uh taken whole 116 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: and battered and fried. Ah sounds so good, right, um 117 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Or can use the petals cooked into dishes like maybe 118 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: like a risotto I saw a recipe for, or just 119 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: scattered on top of a salad or a savory dish 120 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: or a dessert for a nice bright effect and a 121 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: tiny little bit of flavor, or use them to make 122 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: jelly or jam or syrup. The root is most often 123 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: dried and steeped into beverages like teas um. It's also 124 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: one half of the partnership in dandelion and burdock, Burdock 125 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: being another plant with a bitter root, which if you've 126 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: never heard of this as a as a sort of 127 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: rich and and and vegetable carbonated drink that can be 128 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: offered either as a soft drink or as a as 129 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: a beer, sort of like a root beer sasparrella. The 130 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: whole plant, though um, can be made into drinks. Alcoholic 131 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: wines are sometimes made from the flowers, bolstered with stuff 132 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: like a citrus and golden raisins and sugar. I've heard 133 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: it's usually um dry and tastes a little bit like 134 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: a mead. Non alcoholic drinks made with similar ingredients I 135 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: don't think. Raisins, though, are also sometimes called dandelion wine colloquially. 136 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: And Ray Bradberry described dandelion wine as quote summer caught 137 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: and stoppard. And it's just this whole thing sounds so 138 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: fantastical to me. It sounds like you're eating like Lord 139 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: of the Rings or Chronicles of Narnia. And yeah, and 140 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: you've made this like nectar from a flower and it's 141 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: kind of golden and it tastes like summer. I don't 142 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: think I've ever had any of this, but I really 143 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: want to now. Yeah. Uh, dandelions are often used as 144 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: an animal feed to I guess I read some research 145 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: about them being really good for chickens. Sure well, speaking 146 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: of what about the nutrition, Uh, they're pretty good for you. 147 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: The greens have a lot of vitamins and minerals, a 148 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: good punch of protein, lots of fiber um even more 149 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: than greens like a lettuces or spinach. So so those 150 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: greens will help fill you up, pair with a fat 151 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: maybe to keep you going. But do watch out if 152 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: you have a latex allergy, because that white sap in 153 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: the stems of of dandelions is a type of latex um. 154 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: And relatedly, a variety of dandelions are under investigation for 155 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: being hydroponically farmed for making more sustainable rubber for stuff 156 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: like car tires. Dang, I know, dandelions, You're getting up 157 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: to a lot of stuff. Yes, Um, Speaking of Dandelions 158 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: have been used medicinally for all kinds of things, primarily 159 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: as a digestive and a diuretic, and they do have 160 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: compounds that have antioxidant properties, but it seems like most 161 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: of the formal research into the plant and it's extracts 162 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: is still in like the like like lab or animal stages. 163 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: So you know, saver saver motto motto here insert saver motto. 164 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: We do have some numbers for you. We do. Um. 165 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: In England, bandelions are traditionally collected for winemaking on St. 166 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: George's Day, which is April usually um, apparently at one 167 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon. I love this is somebody I 168 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: have very specific like number based traditions. I'm on board. 169 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm on board, so I did want to put in here. 170 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't really pin down, uh, prices for dandelion leaves 171 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: like they arranged wildly or maybe not wildly, but I 172 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: will say that they seem to be more expensive than 173 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: I would guess, and when I see them on menus, 174 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: it's usually for a nicer dish, like more expensive item 175 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: perhaps right, which I think is kind of part of 176 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: that movement. Um, the kind of like farm to table 177 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,359 Speaker 1: movement of using some of these more homey or traditional 178 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: ingredients in elevated ways, right, And I wanted to put 179 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: that in here because we are going to talk about 180 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of the opposite side of dandelions rise and fall 181 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: and rise and fall. But due to their beauty, dandelions 182 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: have been the subject of many songs and poems and 183 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: horticultural societies devoted to it, like the Japanese Dandelion Society, 184 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: which I couldn't I found some Maybe it's another one 185 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: of those instances if I wasn't searching in Japanese. Oh 186 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: so I found some societies, but I could never like 187 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: completely confirm the name. But I saw this in multiple 188 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: English outlets. But either case, it seems like, yes, there 189 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: are um these societies devoted to dandelions, and in particular, uh, 190 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: this one is credited with cultivating over two hundred new 191 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: varieties of dandelions I know. However, many places consider the 192 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: dandelion a weed. Three countries label it as a serious weed, 193 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: eight label it as a principal weed, including the US, 194 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: and twenty one other countries consider it a common weed. 195 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: By some estimates, Americans spend millions of dollars a year 196 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of dandelions. And you know, growing 197 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: up in the South. I don't know if you've ever 198 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: had this experience, but dandelions weren't really a problem, but kudzoo, 199 00:12:53,960 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: like it was like, oh wow, yeah, no, I can 200 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: I can understand that if y'all have never kept a 201 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: yard or trees in the South. Yeah, kud zoo can 202 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: be a major problem because it just grows so fast 203 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: and so much um, and it can choke out trees 204 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: so um. This in a I guess kind of similar 205 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: way to the way that dandelions can proliferate in a 206 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: yard and kind of choke out your carefully tended grass. 207 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: But but I find I find kud zoo itchy and annoying. 208 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: The flowers are really pretty, but so itchy and so annoying, 209 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: and uh, and I find dandelions beautiful. So yeah, I 210 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: don't know's it's not the same, Like you can't really, 211 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: at least in my mind, equate them to be the 212 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: same thing. But it's just funny because that was that's 213 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: my connection of the weed of God. Yeah, also edible, 214 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: So hey, there you go, I know that that makes Yeah, 215 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: the field museums Curator of Emeritus of Botany, Michael Dillon 216 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: said of the dandelion, they are called weeds because they 217 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: are quote misplaced plants. But if we could rewire a 218 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: person's psyche to view them as beautiful, we would be 219 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: seeing a cultural evolution, which is what that song is 220 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: all about. There you go, there you go, It all 221 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: comes back. Um, we do have some history for you too, 222 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: We do, and we will get into that as soon 223 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: as we get back from a quick break forward from 224 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: our sponsor and we're back. Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you. So. 225 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: The dandelions history goes way back before Warden records, but 226 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: historians believe it is native to Europe and Asia sometime 227 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: before the Ice Age, and that they evolved perhaps up 228 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: to thirty million years ago wow, because of how quickly 229 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: they adapted and spread to different climates and locations. When 230 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: the glaciers melted, they sprung up all over the world. 231 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: Some of the first written mentions of dandelions come out 232 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: of ancient room. The ancient Greeks and Egyptians used dandelions 233 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: to mostly medicinally, or at least that's what the what 234 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: we have in the written records indicates. However, they were eaten. 235 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: The leaves and roots were enjoyed on top of buttered bread. 236 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: For instance. That sounds good to me, all right, yeah, 237 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: it sounds kind of like a like a Radish kind 238 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: of situation. Legend goes that after killing the minotaur, theseus 239 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: ate a dandelion salad. Okay, nice and light. The Normans 240 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: of France and Anglo Saxons of Britain also mentioned dandelions 241 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: throughout history. They have been used in food, yes, in 242 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: wine making, and in medicine, primarily for scurvy or as 243 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: a diureticum, but a lot of things. Europe in monasteries 244 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: planted dandelions to use in medicines. They were eating around 245 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the world, from Korea to Armenia, to Greece to Lebanon. Alright, 246 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: and so some perhaps naming history. When the Normans invaded 247 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: and conquered England in ten sixties six, they named dandelions 248 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: don't leon are tooth of the lion, which don't leon 249 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: is fun to say. I like that, And this might 250 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: be because of their appearance as teeth less kind of 251 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: serrated appearance, or either as a main lions main or 252 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: maybe that's not true at all. Maybe it came from 253 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: a fifteenth century German surgeon who wrote that in terms 254 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: of certain illnesses and prevention of those illnesses, dandelions were 255 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: as strong as lions teeth. Whatever the case, it was 256 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: later corrupted into dandelion by Saxon serfs. Throughout time and 257 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: throughout cultures, dandelions have had all kinds of fun names 258 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: from like monks head, priest, crown, irish daisy, canker, wart, lions, tooth, blowball, puffball, 259 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: earth nail, clock flower. Yeah, that apparently the colloquial term 260 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: for them in French today is something close to that. 261 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: It probably sounds prettier because it's in French. Um to 262 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: that last one um, and I can't No one is 263 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: entirely clear on whether that is in reference to the 264 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: yellow color of the flower or two um that presumed 265 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: diuretic effect. Have so good name regardless, Arabian physicians described 266 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: medicinal properties of dandelions in the tenth and eleventh century. 267 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: Doctors in India may have prescribed dandelions around this time 268 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: for liver health. During fift tin, the fifteen fifteen Master 269 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: of Claude de france Um compiled the very detailed Book 270 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: of Flower Studies Barbara Drake Boehm at the METS in 271 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: New York wrote about it that it quote repeatedly dignifies 272 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: plants that we today commonly and wrongly dismiss as weeds, 273 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: including the ethereal and quote luminous dandelion, and then went 274 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: on to write, in the hands of the master of 275 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: Claude de France, there is no nobler plant than the dandelion. Okay, yeah, 276 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: no nobler plant. When European columists arrived in North America, 277 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: they purposefully made sure to bring dandelions with them. They 278 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: also accidentally brought them vs cs on their boots or clothing. 279 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: Um The roots, sleeves, and stems of dandelions were primarily 280 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: used medicinally for a wide swaths of ailments. Indigenous Native 281 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: Americans also used them in medicine and food. Records indicate 282 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: that the dandelion was well known in New England. By 283 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: sixteen seventy two. French explorers introduced dandelions to Canada, while 284 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Spanish explorers introduced them to California and Mexico. Carolus Linnaeus 285 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: classified dandelions in seventeen fifty three and then a lot 286 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: of reversals and then re reversals and all kinds of 287 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: confusion happened taxonomically, Like I was going to write it 288 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: all out, and then I was like, okay, so people 289 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: were just arguing about this for a while. Um. It 290 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: seems like there was a whole, like like hobby industry 291 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: of botanists arguing about this kind of thing really impassionately 292 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: right around that time, which I'm I'm I'm into. It 293 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: was quite funny, but it was one of those things 294 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: where I was writing it out and then they would 295 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: like immediately reverse it, and so I'm like it just okay, 296 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: this is too much. Yeah. Um. Dandelion roots served as 297 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: one of many substitutes for coffee during the American Civil War. 298 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, not calf not caffeinated though, so my head 299 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: would notice caffeine. See that's the thing. Yeah. Um. Six 300 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: is also when large scale plantings took place in the 301 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: United States and a horticulturist named Fearing Bird Jr. Started 302 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: a trend of garden dandelions. During the last half of 303 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds, they became a popular salad green in America. 304 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I leve al of this purposeful dandelion planting, and how 305 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: oh that's Great um around the turn of the twentieth century, 306 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: also with the rise of carbonated beverages, and particularly of 307 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: these um sweetened herbal and or medicinal types of carbonated beverages, 308 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: the kind of things that would eventually develop into stuff 309 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: like Coca cola. That's when the drink dandelion and burdock 310 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: became popular over in the UK, and apparently it remained 311 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: quite popular until American imports like coke took over later 312 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: in the twentieth century. Um, but it is seeing a 313 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: resurgence today and you can even find it in the 314 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: US now from brands like Fentaments. I've never heard of that, 315 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: but that sounds that sounds like, you know, buddy cop 316 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: show or like a detective show. All right, I know 317 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: that's what I always think of when I see the 318 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: when I see the name. But yeah, it's it's pretty good. 319 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if you like kind of like more traditional 320 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: flavored root beers that taste a little bit like earthier 321 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: or or greener. Yeah, it's sort of sort of like that. Okay, Okay. 322 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: During the Great Depression, many Americans boiled dandeliance for sustenance 323 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: if they had access to them. One such child who 324 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: had witnessed this and had his fair share. Henry T. 325 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Chamberlain went on to become a U. S. Army medic 326 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: and served in a DIP theory award at a Japanese 327 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: prison camp during World War two. UM and he realized 328 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: that many of his patients and fellow soldiers weren't getting 329 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: proper nutrition, a lot of malnutrition going on. And and 330 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: he also noticed quote there was a whole profusion of dandelions. 331 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: So I told the guys, let the things blossom, and 332 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: will pick the seeds and don't pull them up, just 333 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: pull the leaves off them and eat them that way. 334 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: And that's what they did. They ate them green. And 335 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: I think that saved you know, it's hard to put 336 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: numbers on specifics on it, but he mentioned it. He 337 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: wrote about it, um of saving lives there with dandelions 338 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: because they weren't getting any green stuff or are not 339 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: enough protein or um yeah, nutrition. And actually when he 340 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: was transferred to another place, he made sure to take 341 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: dandelion seeds with him. As of nineteen forty two, the 342 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: US was importing about one thousand pounds or about forty 343 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: five thousand kilograms of dandelion roots at around four to 344 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: ten cents a pound quote, notwithstanding the abundant homegrown product. 345 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: This was still the case in ninety seven. However, as 346 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: lawns home lawns became more of a thing, and upkeep 347 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: of those lawns what became something of a status symbol. 348 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: People grew irritated with dandelions. It went from something people 349 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: would display at county fairs to something that drew the 350 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: ire of home owners. Prolific dandelions in your lawn came 351 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: to be seen as a sign of neglect or poverty, 352 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: which has all this classist, racist and sociogomic implications to it. Yeah, 353 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: my parents were always kind of shamed for their wild 354 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: My dad called it their wild lawn because they didn't, 355 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, up keep it really and there were tons 356 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: of dandelions. But as a kid, I loved it. I 357 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: loved it. Um it fit in with my fairy tale imaginings. 358 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I uh. One thing that you can get 359 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: here in Georgia is a law. One is full of violets. 360 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: And I've I've had some friends who were really trying 361 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: to do the like fancy nice lawn thing and we're 362 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: so frustrated by it. But I love it. I think 363 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: it's I think. I I agree. I just feel like 364 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm in a fairy tale every time that happens. Um. Also, 365 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: it is like really not great environmentally to attempt to 366 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: keep a like well manicured, perfect fifties lawn. So I'm 367 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of smug about it. Well, I don't like it 368 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: anyway anyway. Um, it depends on where you live, of course, 369 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: like here in Georgia, that's not really what the environment 370 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: is suited too. But at any rate, in ninety three, 371 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Gourmet Magazine published Ray Bradbury's short story Dandelion Wine. Um. 372 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: They didn't generally publish fiction like ever, so so it's 373 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: real interesting that they apparently they accepted it like right away, 374 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: like you just sent it to him kind of on 375 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: a whim and they were like sure. Um. He went 376 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: on to adapt it into the novel by the same 377 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: name that was published in nineteen fifty seven. Um, if 378 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: you've not read it, it's more of a of a 379 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: weaving of short stories I think than a than a novel. 380 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: It's semi autobiographical. Um, it's about it's about nostalgia and 381 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: growing up in small town America. As Any was saying earlier, 382 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the wine the dandelion wine is a is a very 383 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: fond memory for him. Summer Stoppard Summer um. In more 384 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: recent years, many have tried to reverse this perception of 385 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: dandelions as a weed as something to get rid of, 386 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: including the King of Dandelions, so called Dr Peter Gale, 387 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: who wrote The Dandelions Celebration The Guide to Unexpected Cuisine, 388 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: and his whole thing was plant literacy and combating inequality 389 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: when it came to industrialized food, and perhaps his and 390 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: others efforts um have worked. Dandelions have appeared in more 391 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: and more up scale dishes in recent years as interest 392 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: in organic and natural and new food experiences have increased. 393 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: On top of that, several articles have come out espousing 394 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: the benefits of dandelions for poll nation and bees. In 395 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Paul Garlinger wrote, as a spiritual parable, the story 396 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: about dandelions reminds us that the parts of ourselves that 397 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: we think we should hate and approved are the parts 398 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: that we should accept and love in ourselves. A dandelion, Yeah, 399 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: they are so pretty, bitter, bitter little packets of sunshine. Hey, 400 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a great sag line. So you still 401 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: you could eat the whole thing? Yeah, oh yeah, um, well, 402 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: that is about what we have to say about dandelions today. 403 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: It is. But we do have some listener mail for 404 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: you and we are going to get into that as 405 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: soon as we get back from one more quick break 406 00:26:52,280 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor, and we're back, Thank 407 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and we're back with listeners. 408 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: Nice on the wind, Yeah, Scott or hippo. Scott amiss 409 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: as he signed off, Um, I know points for pun 410 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: um wrote, I meant your right in sooner, so I 411 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: apologize for this being late. I love Moral mushrooms, so 412 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that episode. In addition, as you have 413 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: both talked about being into board games, and I am 414 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: a huge board game enthusiast, I thought i'd recommend a 415 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: two player board game called Morals. In the game, two 416 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: players compete to collect and cook sets of mushrooms through 417 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: progressing line of cards thematically representing a walk through a 418 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: forest that include mushroom types, pants, butter or apple cider, 419 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: vinegar in which to cook the mushrooms, woven baskets, and 420 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: a dreaded poisonous mushroom. Oh no, Morals are worth the 421 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: most points, and there are only three of them in 422 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: the whole deck. In the expansion to the game called Foray, 423 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: it adds new mushroom types, different ways to collect, cook, 424 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: and sell mushrooms, enables up to four players, and has 425 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: a new card called forest Fire. This is something I 426 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: was specifically listening for and you discussed, of course in 427 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: the Moral's episode, because in the game, if you draw 428 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: the forest Fire card, it burns up most of the 429 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: forest and subsequently adds a moral mushroom to the deck. 430 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: Oh cool, that's so cool. Ah, that's so nerdy, you know, 431 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: I love it. Was it a mushroom based board game 432 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: that takes into account mushroom facts. Oh it's fun. Wow, 433 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: that's beautiful. That was That was someone's like ven diagram 434 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: passion project of just being like, you know what I 435 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: have not seen and I need. That's great, Moral mushroom 436 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: board game. Love it um, Jessica wrote, I just listened 437 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: to your Cardamom episode and it very coincidentally started playing 438 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: on my podcast feed just as I was sprinkling cardamom 439 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: and clothes onto some pair slices for my baby. I 440 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: never really cooked with cardamum much until a few years ago. 441 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: My parents never used it, and I had no clue 442 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: what it tasted like or how to use it. I 443 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: ended up getting a jar when an Indian recipe I 444 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: wanted to make called for it. Since then, I've continued 445 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: using it in Indian dishes and also in my baking. 446 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: I notably use it in my orange chocolate Bobka and 447 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: my spiced pear frongeupon t heart recipes pictures attached. I 448 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: personally think it pairs incredibly well with pair, hence why 449 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: I put it on my baby's pears today. Those pictures 450 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: looked amazing. Oh gosh, yes, yes, whenever I finally get 451 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: my hands on some cardamum, I'll use pears. Oh yeah, 452 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: do it? Do it? Do it? I will um in 453 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: the meantime. Thanks to both of those listeners for writing 454 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: too is. If you have to write to us, you 455 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: can our email is hello at savor pod dot com. 456 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: We're also on social media. You can find us on Facebook, Twitter, 457 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: and Instagram, all three places. We are at savor pod 458 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: and we do hope to hear from you. Savers production 459 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. 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