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Speaker 1: The real villain on the show is doctor Jackie.
Speaker 2: Absolutely as hucking lutey. Yeah she is, she is.
Speaker 3: But if she's the real villain, then what does it
Speaker 3: make the ladies are they? Is she geppetto and they're Pinocchio?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What does that make them?
Speaker 3: They won't like, let's see what's gonna happen with all
Speaker 3: of the reckoning that's happened with Jackie this season. Are
Speaker 3: they gonna really show her, I mean, grasping her career,
Speaker 3: her reputation, it's married to medicine.
Speaker 2: This is she's dealing with a whole lot right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, are they gonna really show that if she
Speaker 3: comes back, or are they gonna all just Jackie do
Speaker 3: these you know, great doctor you know apology letters or
Speaker 3: I don't know, like, are they gonna really show what
Speaker 3: she's going through and how she picked picks up the
Speaker 3: pieces because that's what people need to see. Yes, she
Speaker 3: is the real villain to me in what way? I
Speaker 3: just think she's never She's just always been so horrible
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: I loved Jackie.
Speaker 3: I've always loved her, looked up to her, and I
Speaker 3: thought it was my fault. And we talked about this
Speaker 3: one time at a reunion. She said, it's not my
Speaker 3: fault that you looked up to me. You did that,
Speaker 3: and she was right. She just never cared for me.
Speaker 3: The first time she came in my house, she didn't
Speaker 3: even speak to me.
Speaker 2: Go back to season one, she just from day one
Speaker 2: she did not care for me. She was really rude.
Speaker 3: I thought she didn't you know how some older people,
Speaker 3: my mom would say this to me, some older women
Speaker 3: don't respect younger successful women or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what it is. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's you know, I just assumed it was something
Speaker 3: she was dealing with in her own life. But I
Speaker 3: know how she feels about the other women because how
Speaker 3: she treated me, and it slowly but surely kind of
Speaker 3: seeps through if you just really watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, when she was going through this controversy in regards
Speaker 1: to her comments on Heavenly's YouTube channel, what were your
Speaker 1: thoughts about that?
Speaker 2: Why was it on heav Ofless YouTube channel?
Speaker 3: Why was it on Heavenless YouTube channel?
Speaker 2: Was my thoughts? I thought, Oh, she is the wild god.
Speaker 3: She is definitely I thought, why was it on Heavenly's
Speaker 3: YouTube channel? That was my first thought. Suppose to her
Speaker 3: best friend? That was my first thought. My heart went
Speaker 3: out to her yet again that lebershit it did, because
Speaker 3: I know she holds her reputation in very high regard,
Speaker 3: but she's human.
Speaker 2: And that's real. But I think she needs to face
Speaker 2: the music.
Speaker 3: This is how you make people feel. What are you
Speaker 3: gonna do about it? And my next thought was fire
Speaker 3: your whole PR team because honestly, like they hate people
Speaker 3: like me.
Speaker 2: But I would have said, Jackie, just tell people the truth.
Speaker 2: You messed up. Why would you go on there.
Speaker 3: First of all, you doubled down and said, you know
Speaker 3: it was misconstrued.
Speaker 2: You know it was a two hour video. It's misconstrued.
Speaker 3: Then you turned around and did an apology and that
Speaker 3: you read from a script. Just get on there and
Speaker 3: be honest, be your authentic self, because the truth of
Speaker 3: the matter, she's not God.
Speaker 2: They make mistakes.
Speaker 3: But if you keep making the same mistakes over and
Speaker 3: over again, maybe you've created a culture. Maybe this is
Speaker 3: who you is. Maybe you need to step back and
Speaker 3: reevaluate how you treat people and how you treat your patients.
Speaker 3: I would say the same thing to Aiden exactly, and
Speaker 3: I felt like that's the issue.
Speaker 2: There's nobody.
Speaker 3: Probably she has a friend though that I would have
Speaker 3: thought would have told her she got a judge tyranny
Speaker 3: that it's real kind of like me, Like I like her.
Speaker 2: So I was shocked.
Speaker 3: Like when she did that apology, it was just eh,
Speaker 3: it was cringey because it.
Speaker 2: Was a lot of people hurt.
Speaker 3: I do know she cares about her career and what
Speaker 3: she does, and she loves what she does. I'll give
Speaker 3: her that. I'm gonna do more than what they've done
Speaker 3: for me. She loves delivering babies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, she loves her career. And I've said this
Speaker 1: publicly too, that my mom died of breast cancer and
Speaker 1: when she was suffering, I called doctor Jackie and we
Speaker 1: spoke for an hour, and she gave me the greatest advice. Obviously,
Speaker 1: at that time it was too late for my mother,
Speaker 1: she had stage four, but I've always gone on record
Speaker 1: saying that she definitely helped me through that process and
Speaker 1: gave me some great advice because I do know she
Speaker 1: loves her career and she is great at what she does.
Speaker 1: So I also wanted to make that clear too. When
Speaker 1: it comes to the show. Do you feel like they
Speaker 1: protect her?
Speaker 2: They do? They do.
Speaker 3: Like what's going on with her marriage right now, Like
Speaker 3: this is married to medicine, and a lot of the
Speaker 3: story of this show is how hard it is for
Speaker 3: the husbands that are married to these successful black doctors.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it because the world sometimes sometimes minimizes
Speaker 3: black men as coaches like doctor Curtis, as successful marketing reps.
Speaker 2: Like Samone's husband Cecil.
Speaker 3: Like, we don't see how as successful as they are,
Speaker 3: it's not enough for the world sometimes, so I think
Speaker 3: seeing that is important and.
Speaker 2: Why hide it? If it was Toya, they.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't hide it, Baby, if it was me, they wouldn't
Speaker 3: hide it.
Speaker 2: Why hide that? Like? It's real. It's why you're on
Speaker 2: a show.
Speaker 3: You can't just show the bits and pieces that work
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 2: You have to show the real shit.
Speaker 3: And I would say that to them and it honestly,
Speaker 3: it humanizes it. Lets you see we all are more
Speaker 3: alike than different. Honestly, we all deal with a lot
Speaker 3: of the same issues.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Toya?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think Toya is at a m passy I do.
Speaker 3: I think she needs something for her. I think she
Speaker 3: needs something for her. And I'm not saying raising her
Speaker 3: kids isn't enough, being a wife isn't enough. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that, but she needs something for her. So when
Speaker 3: I heard that she was doing the wine, I was really.
Speaker 2: Happy for her.
Speaker 3: I hope that that suffices and you know, feels whatever
Speaker 3: void she has. But I think, honestly, Toya is probably
Speaker 3: the most real of all the ladies. Yes, I do
Speaker 3: I think love or hate her. For me as a producer,
Speaker 3: she was the epitome of a doctor's wife, love a hater.
Speaker 2: Every doctor and nurse told me go and meet Toya Harris.
Speaker 3: That's the only person that I did not know that
Speaker 3: everybody told me to cast. Toya was the person that
Speaker 3: every nurse and doctor said, do you know Toya Harris?
Speaker 2: Toya and Eugene Harris.
Speaker 3: So for me, she was She is a major part
Speaker 3: of married to medicine.
Speaker 2: She is love her, love her or hate her.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of what medicine looks like with a
Speaker 3: lot of the wives. That wasn't my life, but I
Speaker 3: respect it because it's.
Speaker 1: Hers, It's I was just about to say that it's different,
Speaker 1: and we got a chance to see the difference.
Speaker 2: Toya reminds you know, what do you think of Toy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, and I'm being very honest with you.
Speaker 1: Toya is from Detroit. I'm from Detroit. Toya reminds me
Speaker 1: of my mom in some ways. So when you said
Speaker 1: she needs something for her, my mother ten kids, same
Speaker 1: man husband, and my daddy was a housewife her entire life.
Speaker 1: The reason why I was sad, I mean not. I
Speaker 1: was sad as a teenage boy from my mom because
Speaker 1: I felt like she wants more, but she knows it
Speaker 1: may come at the cost and the price of her marriage.
Speaker 1: She knew that. And and and as a I'm a
Speaker 1: mom's boy, huntings, I'm a liber I love my mom child,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure he adoes.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: My mom was like, who do you my best friend?
Speaker 1: Right when I see Toya. Because I was asked this
Speaker 1: past Monday, does Toya love Eugene? I said, I believe
Speaker 1: she does, absolutely, and I believe she's grateful for Eugene.
Speaker 1: I said. When I look at Toya, she reminds me
Speaker 1: of my mother's generation of women from Detroit who gave
Speaker 1: everything to their husband and the kids. And when I
Speaker 1: look at Toya and her honesty about her marriage, I
Speaker 1: do believe in my opinion, and this is no disrespect
Speaker 1: to Toya or Eugenie, who I love. I love the
Speaker 1: both of them. I think Toya wants something. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying she wants divorce or a new man. When I
Speaker 1: look at Toya, I look at a woman who wants
Speaker 1: something else besides what her reality is at the moment.
Speaker 1: I think she's great television. I think she's real to
Speaker 1: a fault. I think Toya is like that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: I may get read by the comments I don't give
Speaker 1: her that's how I feel. But I definitely think she
Speaker 1: is one of the examples of your creation of this show.
Speaker 1: And I think she I think she lives the life
Speaker 1: for the cameras. I'm too much. I'm shocked.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you the story about toy too much almost.
Speaker 2: I remember telling the women.
Speaker 3: I remember I remember getting all these all the women
Speaker 3: together and say, hey, I want to meet I think
Speaker 3: we met it. The South African restaurant is ten degrees.
Speaker 2: South or something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got.
Speaker 3: All the women together. And this is when I want
Speaker 3: to have the most Favorite Nations. It's going into second season.
Speaker 3: Like listen, they're gonna try to divide us. They want
Speaker 3: to do divide and conquer, So we got to be
Speaker 3: a step ahead.
Speaker 2: This is what we need to do.
Speaker 3: Let's do this most favorite nations so they can't divide us.
Speaker 3: This is the you know, integral castle, like, this is
Speaker 3: what it is. This is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: And just so you know, Niemi Kim and Charade did
Speaker 1: that going to season.
Speaker 2: Two, smart switch.
Speaker 1: I want you to know that that is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went and I told all the women.
Speaker 3: Get together, Jackie, all of us. Toya went to the
Speaker 3: other producers and said, Mariah is trying to get us.
Speaker 2: Toya snitched on me.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to help us, like I'm trying to help
Speaker 3: with them, really, because I know I was gonna get
Speaker 3: my coin.
Speaker 2: I keeping it real with you. I knew I was gonna.
Speaker 3: Get paid, yeah, but I wanted it. I knew that
Speaker 3: they were going to start playing us who's the star,
Speaker 3: who's not the star? So in order to just lock
Speaker 3: everything in and everybody be on the same court, and
Speaker 3: I knew they couldn't play us against each other with money,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or the budget. If you
Speaker 3: just lock in, do that most favorite nations. Toya went
Speaker 3: told them so to your You're right. She does it
Speaker 3: to a fault almost, and I think she means well,
Speaker 3: but it comes off the wrong way at the wrong time.
Speaker 2: Sometimes. She was the only person.
Speaker 3: I think her and Eugenie were the only people that
Speaker 3: kind of stepped up for me when she was the
Speaker 3: person that suggested, honestly, I mean, this might have came
Speaker 3: from the producers by way of her, I don't know.
Speaker 3: She was the person that said you should go and
Speaker 3: do the hair test with the drug stuff and yeah,
Speaker 3: and found the place for me to go that was Toya.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't really listening to Toyas, but.
Speaker 3: I did, so, you know, I have a respect for her,
Speaker 3: you know, in that regard because I think it comes
Speaker 3: from a good place. But I also feel like sometimes
Speaker 3: she just doesn't listen.
Speaker 1: Do you guys still talk?
Speaker 3: No, I don't talk to any of them. The last
Speaker 3: person I talked to and it wasn't talk, it was
Speaker 3: a text, was Quad and it was because she lost
Speaker 3: a family member and I just sent my condolences.
Speaker 1: Did she respond to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And I think she was happy to receive
Speaker 2: the message. Yeah. I just at least you could do,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What are your thoughts on Sweet Tea.
Speaker 3: I don't really know her, honestly, I just I hope
Speaker 3: she has a fair chance. I feel I really feel
Speaker 3: like I think Heavenly is going from the snippets I've
Speaker 3: seen from your show and just kind of what I've
Speaker 3: seen on social media, I think Heavenly is going too
Speaker 3: hard on her and her Man I don't understand why
Speaker 3: she's so caught up.
Speaker 2: If she can have babies. If she can, she didn't
Speaker 2: do it. That's why Qua I didn't have a baby
Speaker 2: with Doctor G.
Speaker 3: Why didn't she do I don't think I think that
Speaker 3: is double standards.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's hazing the new girl.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 3: I would call it hazing if I thought she was
Speaker 3: gonna make the line. I think they do more things
Speaker 3: to block you out and shut you out. So I
Speaker 3: think that she's shutting Sweet Tea out versus giving her
Speaker 3: a chance.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: If the girl got a big person out, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And maybe she's trying to make herself up.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what the goal is.
Speaker 3: But I think you have to give people a chance
Speaker 3: because the first season you go on you don't really
Speaker 3: know who you are. You know who you are, but
Speaker 3: not on TV, like just it's just different. When you
Speaker 3: see yourself, you're like, oh god, I mean I had
Speaker 3: blue eye shadow up to like blue and yellow eye
Speaker 3: shuddle up to my head, like you know, you just
Speaker 3: just see yourself. When you see yourself, it's like wow.
Speaker 3: So I think they just got to give people a chance.
Speaker 3: I don't think they give a lot of these ladies
Speaker 3: a real chance.
Speaker 2: And that's the issue I have. See what she can become?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Like, why are you poking this girl? She
Speaker 3: really truly just is a newlywed. Marriage is hard enough
Speaker 3: and heavily doesn't have room to speak on anybody's marriage
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: Why no marriage is perfect? I spoke on mine.
Speaker 3: I was warming enough to speak on mine and the
Speaker 3: issues we've had in it's some of the issues we've
Speaker 3: had in it, because there's no perfect relationship, but heavens
Speaker 3: ain't perfect either.
Speaker 1: Do you still have the receipts and the invoices?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: But it's not my place to keep a journal on
Speaker 3: anybody else's husband because I got one on my own
Speaker 3: and I'm just not trying to do that. I don't
Speaker 3: put shit past nobody, her husband, my husband. I ain't
Speaker 3: following no husbands. That ain't what the show.
Speaker 2: Was created for, right, you give it. I just did
Speaker 2: not want to get into that. I really didn't.
Speaker 3: And then Aiden is a liber too, and he's like,
Speaker 3: he can't do it, you can't, And I.
Speaker 2: Start saying, well, what you got to had? Why do
Speaker 2: you say?
Speaker 1: Why? I'm I don't put at all, even if you
Speaker 1: go to the gas station at least once a day.
Speaker 3: Black brown, baby white, it's about that.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about your thoughts about Phaedra joining Mary
Speaker 1: to medicine.
Speaker 3: I didn't understand the correlation. You know, it really to me,
Speaker 3: same thing I said, it's quiet. I think Fader deserves
Speaker 3: her own show spin off, like she's in law. I
Speaker 3: think that she has proven that she's a big character
Speaker 3: and she's entertaining. So I don't want to make it
Speaker 3: seem like I'm being shady, because I'm not. I just
Speaker 3: didn't see the correlation with her when married to medicine
Speaker 3: unless she had a male practice suit and it was
Speaker 3: referencesenting one of the women.
Speaker 2: I just didn't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: And I think, honestly, Fader was there for a check.
Speaker 3: She's cute and sitting up and she was perched. She
Speaker 3: wasn't at work. She was at a collectical coin and
Speaker 3: it was obvious. You didn't see that as a producer.
Speaker 1: I listen, was she there to work?
Speaker 2: Or was she there?
Speaker 1: But this is the thing about me, was she there
Speaker 1: to work or collect I said it on my Monday. No,
Speaker 1: I'm the one listen what thing about me. That's why
Speaker 1: it bothers me when people want to talk about me,
Speaker 1: called me out, my name, messy whatever. Why are you
Speaker 1: mad at me for commenting on what you're showing on
Speaker 1: a show you signed up to be on the show.
Speaker 1: I signed up to do these YouTube and podcasts so
Speaker 1: I know that I'll get read for PHILP. I don't
Speaker 1: care what y'all think about me when it comes to
Speaker 1: Theedra who I worked with Atlanta Housewives, great television, funny
Speaker 1: as a wit, whims the call, you know, pomp to circumstance,
Speaker 1: all those things. When it came to a maritime medicine, predictable, unpredictable,
Speaker 1: the justaposition between being a Christian and a city girl.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I love that. We love it and she leans into it,
Speaker 1: which makes it more funny because you know what she's doing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the whole like Willie Watkin's funeral home, Like
Speaker 1: she understands the assignment. I've always said that she does.
Speaker 1: First episode, I was like, it was good to see
Speaker 1: her back on television because she's great TV. After episode one,
Speaker 1: I said this public and I'll say it again. It
Speaker 1: is anti climactic. She has brought nothing to this season.
Speaker 1: She's a disappointment. She is there for the paycheck. And
Speaker 1: what makes it more infuriating to me, you girls have
Speaker 1: been there for ten seasons and you are going to
Speaker 1: war with the people you started with, from you to Quad,
Speaker 1: and I know that it's different wars, right, Yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: let her get by so easily, y'all. Some of y'all
Speaker 1: look like fans. Some of y'all are starstruck.
Speaker 3: Do you think that maybe we had too much of
Speaker 3: an expectation of phasia?
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, Number one, I call it
Speaker 1: stunt casting. Stunt casting is when you bring somebody who
Speaker 1: has a familiar name and fan base and use them
Speaker 1: to get eyeballs to the show.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: If she was really dating a doctor, then go Off says,
Speaker 1: is the luck of the draw, the reality God said,
Speaker 1: girl got something for you, Right, no doctor, no relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't see Apollo. I'm not seeing you do anything.
Speaker 1: But what bothers me the most is these girls are
Speaker 1: so opinionated, and some of them come across as fans, and.
Speaker 2: Let's have they given their opinion.
Speaker 1: On no Faje walks around there. I was shocked, shocked
Speaker 1: that at Latoya's wine event when they were all at
Speaker 1: the table and Quad, now I'm not Quad. Phaedria has
Speaker 1: now admitted that she did switch her flight so that
Speaker 1: she won't be on the same flight as Quad, because
Speaker 1: what I now understand about the environment of Meritan medicine
Speaker 1: is it's Sinkle swim. It's like it's Sinkle swim, right,
Speaker 1: So she knew that if I'm around you, these other
Speaker 1: girls won't mess with me. So when Pedro was at
Speaker 1: that dinner table with her rear leather jacket and blonde tresses,
Speaker 1: and these girls are coming for Quad, y'all came on
Speaker 1: the show together. You knew you know Quah better than
Speaker 1: the rest of these girls. You sat there and didn't
Speaker 1: utter a word in the fence of her and all
Speaker 1: of these girls because they were gas lit by whomever,
Speaker 1: and gave all of that to Quad. When I'm looking
Speaker 1: at them and saying, this is the one who possibly
Speaker 1: makes more than y'all who came on the show showed.
Speaker 3: Off her outfits, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's she came.
Speaker 3: She gave her, She gave the girls a fashion show.
Speaker 3: She said, I'm not gonna sweat it out. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: stay intact. I'm not gonna you girls work. And she
Speaker 3: looks good, so I don't get fined.
Speaker 1: That's one of this. She looks amazing.
Speaker 2: She did. She does I know how.
Speaker 1: To produce Pager in the sense of you gotta make
Speaker 1: her work, make her work, clock clock in, clock in.
Speaker 1: And I'm more disappointed in those girls for not saying,
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of our show,
Speaker 1: we're not lucky to have you, You're lucky to have us.
Speaker 1: Clock in. Let me show you what we do here.
Speaker 1: So what's what is going on with you? No, you
Speaker 1: are messy? What was going on here? Like what? And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know she was on the show.
Speaker 3: I would want to know some of the other things,
Speaker 3: like what happened. You can't leave this group of friends
Speaker 3: and and and come to this one and not explain
Speaker 3: a lot of things unanswered questions in this group.
Speaker 1: Heavenly said that, and this is how the show works. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Heavenly did say that she gave Phaedra heads up that hey,
Speaker 1: they want me to bring up candy. What she gave
Speaker 1: her heads up? She said this publicly, and that Phedra
Speaker 1: allegedly called the production and the network use some curse words.
Speaker 3: But what doesn't that strike you as odd heavenly of
Speaker 3: all people? Do you think that she's giving Sweet Tea
Speaker 3: heads up? Why would she give Faedra a heads up
Speaker 3: on anything? They're not friends, they don't have history, so
Speaker 3: it's what it's It wasn't her reputation? Was it that
Speaker 3: she's phaser like to me like that speaks volumes? Why
Speaker 3: would she call Faedra? I don't get that. Why would
Speaker 3: she do that?
Speaker 1: Phaedra has gotten that show and ran it.
Speaker 2: You even more power too? Running bitches? Are they stupid
Speaker 2: enough to go along?
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me, And I say to you, it's
Speaker 1: crazy to me.
Speaker 2: I wish I will keep on running them.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I deserve it.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: If they allow it, then so be it.
Speaker 1: Who would you like to see American Medison moving forward?
Speaker 1: Who's your dream cast? Oh?
Speaker 2: I know he was going to ask me that.
Speaker 3: I don't know who the dream cast is, but I do.
Speaker 3: I feel as though Toya should be there. I think Buffy.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see what Genie could do.
Speaker 2: And you know, I my antennas are up for Sweet Tea.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think she's great television.
Speaker 2: I don't know yet. I haven't really watched.
Speaker 1: She has potential.
Speaker 3: Something's coming out of her, like making her rise to
Speaker 3: the occasion, maybe for all wrong reasons, but you know,
Speaker 3: I think that she will rise to do what she needs.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Even with the new I haven't heard the new young lady.
Speaker 2: I think Alicia. I've never heard her say anything.
Speaker 1: Well, she's doing the Beyonce a Mute challenge and have
Speaker 1: been doing it for two months.
Speaker 2: It's too like, I don't get are they cutting it
Speaker 2: out or.
Speaker 1: Is she just not I think she's holding her breath.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It has to be saying like they have to be
Speaker 3: editing out. There's no way she could be in all
Speaker 3: those scenes and not saying.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, she's a beautiful girl.
Speaker 2: She's like a younger version of Jackie. To me, y'all
Speaker 2: don't see that.
Speaker 1: I look again, because I don't see her.
Speaker 2: Takeingized brown like, yeah, the looks okay.
Speaker 3: I can tell you why they casted her, why she's
Speaker 3: the younger version of Jackie. But she probably has another side.
Speaker 3: She probably has another side that they haven't shown yet.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. She's a younger version of Jackie.
Speaker 2: Guarantee you, but she has another side.
Speaker 1: Is it time for some of the ogs to be removed?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely. I think that they've gotten very complacent. I
Speaker 3: think that that, just like medicine, the shows have to evolve,
Speaker 3: and it's not evolving. It's not And then even when
Speaker 3: they bring on new people, they stunt their growth. They
Speaker 3: won't allow them to prosper at all.
Speaker 2: They block them. And I don't understand.
Speaker 3: It could be I'm telling you, it could be a
Speaker 3: It is a good show, but it would be an
Speaker 3: amazing show if they the producers just take their hand
Speaker 3: out of it and just let them ladies leave, Let
Speaker 3: like for real, just let it happen.
Speaker 2: It's a group of good women. And if you.
Speaker 3: Really just let it happen the way it's supposed to,
Speaker 3: not tell people who to be friends with, who to
Speaker 3: ice out, then I think that things will happen the
Speaker 3: way they're supposed to.
Speaker 1: We want you back on television, and by we I
Speaker 1: mean me and the world. I'm included.
Speaker 2: I'm ready, I'm ready. Are they ready for me? For me? Well?
Speaker 2: What on some okay? Ass is ready for me? Who
Speaker 2: could take me.
Speaker 1: Would you would you do an ensemble show?
Speaker 2: What an ensemble do me?
Speaker 1: I'm not getting what unsemble do me?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can get in line with
Speaker 3: the group of girls, orf they gonna line up next
Speaker 3: to me because I'm not gonna dumb it down anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to I'm not getting attention anymore. I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like I was nice and sweet and that
Speaker 3: didn't work out. I feel like I was let the
Speaker 3: librougs I was trying to do and then look they
Speaker 3: still hate it and they pushed.
Speaker 2: A bitch out. So this the next time around. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'll do it.
Speaker 3: I'll do it ensemble. Now how long it would be ensemble?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I would.
Speaker 2: I love TV. I was born to do it.
Speaker 1: You listen. I always say there's certain people who were
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you know, like there's certain people who
Speaker 1: are born to be a doctor. They were born to
Speaker 1: be an athlete. You were born to be a reality star.
Speaker 2: Oh a reality sung.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna tell you no, no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no.
Speaker 2: You can have That's like me saying you're born to
Speaker 2: be a blogger.
Speaker 3: Let me get you.
Speaker 1: It's not even shame you mean this? Always tell people reality.
Speaker 1: I'm going to redefine when reality started me? Is the
Speaker 1: reality of your life? Is reality unscripted things? That's what
Speaker 1: I meant, just like I.
Speaker 2: Was born to entertain.
Speaker 1: Oh you're entertaining, but you are meant to be on
Speaker 1: reality television and make a mass millions off of that
Speaker 1: and multiple streats of income.
Speaker 3: Right. You know the funny part you're saying that is
Speaker 3: I never felt like that. You know what I felt like.
Speaker 3: I feel like my gift is and this is what
Speaker 3: people don't get why I was never jealous of any
Speaker 3: of those ladies.
Speaker 2: My gift is bringing the best out of other people,
Speaker 2: making other people.
Speaker 1: I can see that.
Speaker 2: But in that I lost myself, like I forgot to.
Speaker 1: I don't know too many people who could come out
Speaker 1: and say, pressure, watch this motherfucker nasty as that's my point.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even try but listen to me, that's my point.
Speaker 2: I felt like that. I know it was dirty ship.
Speaker 2: Well look she I'm painted it now. I like the white.
Speaker 3: I ventured the pressure wash it every other week.
Speaker 1: No, I know with some I just know it's started.
Speaker 1: I see one and when they're being real. When you
Speaker 1: said pressure washes, motherfucker, we all contaminated. We something said,
Speaker 1: and then you have these you have these moments that
Speaker 1: are you can't make them up. You are meant to
Speaker 1: be on television. Do you have anything in the words?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: But I don't know if you're gonna like it. I
Speaker 3: have a you know, I have a talk show coming.
Speaker 3: It's called The Glow Up in heavy negotiations. We filmed
Speaker 3: three episodes here e sleek, full studio audience, and I
Speaker 3: am so excited about it. But it's not the Mariah
Speaker 3: that you've seen in the reality way.
Speaker 2: You know, It's still me, my personality.
Speaker 3: It's you know it, And it's the other side of
Speaker 3: me that loves entrepreneurship and recognizing so many minorities like
Speaker 3: you and I that had to work so hard for
Speaker 3: a seat at the table. And that's what this show
Speaker 3: is about.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Yeah, how.
Speaker 2: You got a seat at the table?
Speaker 3: Telling your story how hard it is and not only
Speaker 3: getting one, keeping one.
Speaker 2: Nobody talks about that.
Speaker 3: Yes, you reign supreme in reality TV, but keeping that spot, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's so hard.
Speaker 1: No, And people don't get it because I don't think
Speaker 1: people know that it's hard to run a production company
Speaker 1: full service. I am responsible for the crew, the editing,
Speaker 1: and the cast, and all of this is a big
Speaker 1: to do. I think people think I just said in
Speaker 1: my clothes and read the girls and you don't and
Speaker 1: eat some chickpea tuna like I Literally, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do. But that's the reason why I
Speaker 1: think you are meant to be on a show that
Speaker 1: focuses on that.
Speaker 2: Well, why don't you create one for me?
Speaker 1: Well, I know, would you be open to co creating
Speaker 1: one with me?
Speaker 2: I would?
Speaker 3: I would, and I will let me tell you and.
Speaker 2: I will work that mother, So yes, God, I would. Honey,
Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. Ready, I am ready. I miss it.
Speaker 3: I hate to say it.
Speaker 2: Be doing, you know, I even know I am like,
Speaker 2: I don't. Really I needed a moment. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: I needed a moment because I wouldn't have been productive
Speaker 2: for anybody. Like. I was angry.
Speaker 3: I can say that I was angry for the way
Speaker 3: things played out on Married to Medicine. I was very angry,
Speaker 3: But you know what, so be it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm ready for the next step. I told
Speaker 2: you what you gonna do? Love in medicine. I got
Speaker 2: some girls in mine. What would be the perfect cast
Speaker 2: for marriage to medicine. I'll tell you the perfect cast
Speaker 2: for love and medicine.
Speaker 1: Love and medicine, Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. You already think a franchise?
Speaker 3: Already, you already, and I got some girls. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 3: I too, Yeah, I bet you won't be giving opinions
Speaker 3: on merits and medicine for too much longer.
Speaker 2: What you said. But you know why. I am so
Speaker 2: proud of you.
Speaker 3: I heard I heard Oprah give you a shout out
Speaker 3: for your one hundred.
Speaker 1: Yes episode The Love and Maritionsville.
Speaker 2: How does that feel?
Speaker 1: You know what it's. It's the combination of my hard work.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not easy to do what we do.
Speaker 1: I don't talk a lot about my difficulty being in
Speaker 1: this business. I relate to you so much. I know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be iced out. I know what
Speaker 1: it's like to have a machine come against you. I
Speaker 1: know what it's like when you surpassed people's expectations of you.
Speaker 1: I know what it's like for I know what it's
Speaker 1: like for people who look.
Speaker 4: Like you, your own race turn on you because they're afraid
Speaker 4: of they're afraid of going against the machine, and they
Speaker 4: they now publicly despaired you. You know, they call you
Speaker 4: out your name, they make up stories about you, they
Speaker 4: tell you know, it's it's all because the only thing
Speaker 4: I wanted to do was I just want to do more,
Speaker 4: to be told you burned the bridge, to be told
Speaker 4: that it's it's it's it's people don't understand it's it's
Speaker 4: it's kept up, it's.
Speaker 1: Stept up, and we're libras. And there's the moments of
Speaker 1: I cried myself to sleep at nine medium nights because
Speaker 1: I was like, the world thinks on this person when
Speaker 1: if you ever meet me, you would say, he's like
Speaker 1: the nicest, sweetest guy. He's funny and what ch'a don't
Speaker 1: understand that he's doing. He's talking about you because he
Speaker 1: cares and he knows that his voice is powerful. So
Speaker 1: it's going to just put more money in your pocket.
Speaker 1: But when you have somebody in your ear, what is
Speaker 1: most hurtful for me is that the people who are
Speaker 1: loved similar to you, who you gave opportunities to, they
Speaker 1: turn against you because they know that there's people who
Speaker 1: sign their checks, there's people who are the opposite race
Speaker 1: of them, and they're afraid of them. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of black people and unscripted who are afraid of going
Speaker 1: against the white man so much because because because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people who believe white is right white.
Speaker 1: And I am going through that as we speak. I'm
Speaker 1: going through that as we speak.
Speaker 3: And why we create such amazing content when we create
Speaker 3: all of these things, if we have our own studios,
Speaker 3: we have our they can't recreate what we do. They
Speaker 3: can't duplicate it. And it's not about white or black.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, when you were born to do certain things, yeah,
Speaker 3: and you create magic. We just have to know our
Speaker 3: power because it's getting to a point with social media.
Speaker 2: Do we need certain things? No, you do it ourselves.
Speaker 1: But you've shown that, You've shown building this impot that
Speaker 1: you have. And that's the reason why when I reached
Speaker 1: out to you, I said, listen, I could talk to
Speaker 1: you all their long, child, but I need to use
Speaker 1: my platform. And I said, I want to get a tour.
Speaker 1: I want the world to see what this black woman
Speaker 1: has created in her silent times. I know what it's
Speaker 1: like for God to hide you when I left in
Speaker 1: Line of Housewives and I love at a time where
Speaker 1: I was being attacked by a cast and some other people, right,
Speaker 1: and I left shitting.
Speaker 2: On your name.
Speaker 1: Oh, and I moved to LA. I moved to LA
Speaker 1: because I wanted more for myself and it was hurtful
Speaker 1: and I cried.
Speaker 2: Carlos, look at you now you're reigning.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I am so proud of you, and I
Speaker 3: mean that from the pits of my heart and you
Speaker 3: when I look at you.
Speaker 2: I see the possibilities.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to go to social media and
Speaker 2: I mean that, but I'll go to yours and say
Speaker 2: I can do this.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should just let's see what So know that
Speaker 3: seeing you do it and what you can do, it
Speaker 3: inspires and it uplifts and you put a little miss
Speaker 3: into it. I mean, so be it. We're born to
Speaker 3: do something. Yes, we like extra credit.
Speaker 1: So much.
Speaker 2: We were born to be seeing too much. So that's
Speaker 2: what that's the greatness in it.
Speaker 3: But I am so proud of you and to see
Speaker 3: you continue to create and not just create shows, create jobs.
Speaker 2: People don't get that part of it.
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