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Twice a week on Reality with 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Waters 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: I heard and I want to hear your opinions her. 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: The real villain on the show is doctor Jackie. 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely as hucking lutey. Yeah she is, she is. 16 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: But if she's the real villain, then what does it 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: make the ladies are they? Is she geppetto and they're Pinocchio? 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: Like? 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: What does that make them? 20 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: They won't like, let's see what's gonna happen with all 21 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: of the reckoning that's happened with Jackie this season. Are 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: they gonna really show her, I mean, grasping her career, 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: her reputation, it's married to medicine. 24 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: This is she's dealing with a whole lot right now. 25 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: I mean, are they gonna really show that if she 26 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: comes back, or are they gonna all just Jackie do 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: these you know, great doctor you know apology letters or 28 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, like, are they gonna really show what 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: she's going through and how she picked picks up the 30 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: pieces because that's what people need to see. Yes, she 31 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: is the real villain to me in what way? I 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: just think she's never She's just always been so horrible 33 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: to me. 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: I loved Jackie. 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: I've always loved her, looked up to her, and I 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: thought it was my fault. And we talked about this 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: one time at a reunion. She said, it's not my 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: fault that you looked up to me. You did that, 39 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: and she was right. She just never cared for me. 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: The first time she came in my house, she didn't 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: even speak to me. 42 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Go back to season one, she just from day one 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: she did not care for me. She was really rude. 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: I thought she didn't you know how some older people, 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: my mom would say this to me, some older women 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: don't respect younger successful women or something. I don't know. 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: I don't really know what it is. I don't know 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: if it's you know, I just assumed it was something 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: she was dealing with in her own life. But I 50 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: know how she feels about the other women because how 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: she treated me, and it slowly but surely kind of 52 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: seeps through if you just really watch. 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: So, when she was going through this controversy in regards 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: to her comments on Heavenly's YouTube channel, what were your 56 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: thoughts about that? 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: Why was it on heav Ofless YouTube channel? 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: Why was it on Heavenless YouTube channel? 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: Was my thoughts? I thought, Oh, she is the wild god. 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: She is definitely I thought, why was it on Heavenly's 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: YouTube channel? That was my first thought. Suppose to her 62 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 3: best friend? That was my first thought. My heart went 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: out to her yet again that lebershit it did, because 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: I know she holds her reputation in very high regard, 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: but she's human. 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: And that's real. But I think she needs to face 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: the music. 68 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: This is how you make people feel. What are you 69 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: gonna do about it? And my next thought was fire 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: your whole PR team because honestly, like they hate people 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: like me. 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: But I would have said, Jackie, just tell people the truth. 73 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: You messed up. Why would you go on there. 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: First of all, you doubled down and said, you know 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: it was misconstrued. 76 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: You know it was a two hour video. It's misconstrued. 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: Then you turned around and did an apology and that 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: you read from a script. Just get on there and 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: be honest, be your authentic self, because the truth of 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: the matter, she's not God. 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: They make mistakes. 82 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: But if you keep making the same mistakes over and 83 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: over again, maybe you've created a culture. Maybe this is 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: who you is. Maybe you need to step back and 85 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: reevaluate how you treat people and how you treat your patients. 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: I would say the same thing to Aiden exactly, and 87 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: I felt like that's the issue. 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: There's nobody. 89 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: Probably she has a friend though that I would have 90 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: thought would have told her she got a judge tyranny 91 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: that it's real kind of like me, Like I like her. 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: So I was shocked. 93 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: Like when she did that apology, it was just eh, 94 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: it was cringey because it. 95 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: Was a lot of people hurt. 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: I do know she cares about her career and what 97 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: she does, and she loves what she does. I'll give 98 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: her that. I'm gonna do more than what they've done 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: for me. She loves delivering babies. 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, she loves her career. And I've said this 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: publicly too, that my mom died of breast cancer and 102 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: when she was suffering, I called doctor Jackie and we 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: spoke for an hour, and she gave me the greatest advice. Obviously, 104 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: at that time it was too late for my mother, 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: she had stage four, but I've always gone on record 106 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: saying that she definitely helped me through that process and 107 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: gave me some great advice because I do know she 108 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: loves her career and she is great at what she does. 109 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: So I also wanted to make that clear too. When 110 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: it comes to the show. Do you feel like they 111 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: protect her? 112 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: They do? They do. 113 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: Like what's going on with her marriage right now, Like 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: this is married to medicine, and a lot of the 115 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: story of this show is how hard it is for 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: the husbands that are married to these successful black doctors. 117 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about it because the world sometimes sometimes minimizes 118 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 3: black men as coaches like doctor Curtis, as successful marketing reps. 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: Like Samone's husband Cecil. 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: Like, we don't see how as successful as they are, 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: it's not enough for the world sometimes, so I think 122 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: seeing that is important and. 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: Why hide it? If it was Toya, they. 124 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: Wouldn't hide it, Baby, if it was me, they wouldn't 125 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: hide it. 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: Why hide that? Like? It's real. It's why you're on 127 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: a show. 128 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: You can't just show the bits and pieces that work 129 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: for you. 130 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: You have to show the real shit. 131 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: And I would say that to them and it honestly, 132 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: it humanizes it. Lets you see we all are more 133 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: alike than different. Honestly, we all deal with a lot 134 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: of the same issues. 135 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Toya? 136 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think Toya is at a m passy I do. 137 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: I think she needs something for her. I think she 138 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: needs something for her. And I'm not saying raising her 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: kids isn't enough, being a wife isn't enough. I'm not 140 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: saying that, but she needs something for her. So when 141 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: I heard that she was doing the wine, I was really. 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Happy for her. 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: I hope that that suffices and you know, feels whatever 144 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: void she has. But I think, honestly, Toya is probably 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: the most real of all the ladies. Yes, I do 146 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: I think love or hate her. For me as a producer, 147 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: she was the epitome of a doctor's wife, love a hater. 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Every doctor and nurse told me go and meet Toya Harris. 149 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: That's the only person that I did not know that 150 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: everybody told me to cast. Toya was the person that 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: every nurse and doctor said, do you know Toya Harris? 152 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: Toya and Eugene Harris. 153 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: So for me, she was She is a major part 154 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: of married to medicine. 155 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: She is love her, love her or hate her. 156 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: That's a lot of what medicine looks like with a 157 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: lot of the wives. That wasn't my life, but I 158 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: respect it because it's. 159 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: Hers, It's I was just about to say that it's different, 160 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and we got a chance to see the difference. 161 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Toya reminds you know, what do you think of Toy. 162 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, and I'm being very honest with you. 163 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: Toya is from Detroit. I'm from Detroit. Toya reminds me 164 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: of my mom in some ways. So when you said 165 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: she needs something for her, my mother ten kids, same 166 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: man husband, and my daddy was a housewife her entire life. 167 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: The reason why I was sad, I mean not. I 168 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: was sad as a teenage boy from my mom because 169 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: I felt like she wants more, but she knows it 170 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: may come at the cost and the price of her marriage. 171 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: She knew that. And and and as a I'm a 172 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: mom's boy, huntings, I'm a liber I love my mom child, 173 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure he adoes. 174 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: Yes. 175 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: My mom was like, who do you my best friend? 176 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: Right when I see Toya. Because I was asked this 177 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: past Monday, does Toya love Eugene? I said, I believe 178 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: she does, absolutely, and I believe she's grateful for Eugene. 179 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: I said. When I look at Toya, she reminds me 180 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: of my mother's generation of women from Detroit who gave 181 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: everything to their husband and the kids. And when I 182 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: look at Toya and her honesty about her marriage, I 183 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: do believe in my opinion, and this is no disrespect 184 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: to Toya or Eugenie, who I love. I love the 185 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: both of them. I think Toya wants something. I'm not 186 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: saying she wants divorce or a new man. When I 187 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: look at Toya, I look at a woman who wants 188 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: something else besides what her reality is at the moment. 189 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: I think she's great television. I think she's real to 190 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: a fault. I think Toya is like that's how I feel. 191 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: I may get read by the comments I don't give 192 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: her that's how I feel. But I definitely think she 193 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: is one of the examples of your creation of this show. 194 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: And I think she I think she lives the life 195 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: for the cameras. I'm too much. I'm shocked. 196 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you the story about toy too much almost. 197 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: I remember telling the women. 198 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: I remember I remember getting all these all the women 199 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: together and say, hey, I want to meet I think 200 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,239 Speaker 3: we met it. The South African restaurant is ten degrees. 201 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: South or something. 202 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got. 203 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: All the women together. And this is when I want 204 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: to have the most Favorite Nations. It's going into second season. 205 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: Like listen, they're gonna try to divide us. They want 206 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: to do divide and conquer, So we got to be 207 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: a step ahead. 208 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: This is what we need to do. 209 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: Let's do this most favorite nations so they can't divide us. 210 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: This is the you know, integral castle, like, this is 211 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: what it is. This is what we're gonna do. 212 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: And just so you know, Niemi Kim and Charade did 213 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: that going to season. 214 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: Two, smart switch. 215 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I want you to know that that is good. 216 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. I went and I told all the women. 217 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: Get together, Jackie, all of us. Toya went to the 218 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: other producers and said, Mariah is trying to get us. 219 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: Toya snitched on me. 220 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to help us, like I'm trying to help 221 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: with them, really, because I know I was gonna get 222 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: my coin. 223 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: I keeping it real with you. I knew I was gonna. 224 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: Get paid, yeah, but I wanted it. I knew that 225 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: they were going to start playing us who's the star, 226 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: who's not the star? So in order to just lock 227 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: everything in and everybody be on the same court, and 228 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: I knew they couldn't play us against each other with money, 229 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or the budget. If you 230 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: just lock in, do that most favorite nations. Toya went 231 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: told them so to your You're right. She does it 232 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: to a fault almost, and I think she means well, 233 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: but it comes off the wrong way at the wrong time. 234 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes. She was the only person. 235 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: I think her and Eugenie were the only people that 236 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: kind of stepped up for me when she was the 237 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: person that suggested, honestly, I mean, this might have came 238 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: from the producers by way of her, I don't know. 239 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: She was the person that said you should go and 240 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: do the hair test with the drug stuff and yeah, 241 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: and found the place for me to go that was Toya. 242 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't really listening to Toyas, but. 243 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: I did, so, you know, I have a respect for her, 244 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: you know, in that regard because I think it comes 245 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: from a good place. But I also feel like sometimes 246 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: she just doesn't listen. 247 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys still talk? 248 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 3: No, I don't talk to any of them. The last 249 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: person I talked to and it wasn't talk, it was 250 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: a text, was Quad and it was because she lost 251 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: a family member and I just sent my condolences. 252 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Did she respond to you? 253 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And I think she was happy to receive 254 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: the message. Yeah. I just at least you could do, 255 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: you know. 256 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. What are your thoughts on Sweet Tea. 257 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: I don't really know her, honestly, I just I hope 258 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: she has a fair chance. I feel I really feel 259 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: like I think Heavenly is going from the snippets I've 260 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: seen from your show and just kind of what I've 261 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: seen on social media, I think Heavenly is going too 262 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: hard on her and her Man I don't understand why 263 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: she's so caught up. 264 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: If she can have babies. If she can, she didn't 265 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: do it. That's why Qua I didn't have a baby 266 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: with Doctor G. 267 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: Why didn't she do I don't think I think that 268 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: is double standards. 269 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Do you think it's hazing the new girl. 270 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: I think it was. 271 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: I would call it hazing if I thought she was 272 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: gonna make the line. I think they do more things 273 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: to block you out and shut you out. So I 274 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: think that she's shutting Sweet Tea out versus giving her 275 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: a chance. 276 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 277 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: If the girl got a big person out, I don't know. 278 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: And maybe she's trying to make herself up. 279 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't really know what the goal is. 280 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: But I think you have to give people a chance 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: because the first season you go on you don't really 282 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: know who you are. You know who you are, but 283 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: not on TV, like just it's just different. When you 284 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: see yourself, you're like, oh god, I mean I had 285 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: blue eye shadow up to like blue and yellow eye 286 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: shuddle up to my head, like you know, you just 287 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: just see yourself. When you see yourself, it's like wow. 288 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: So I think they just got to give people a chance. 289 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't think they give a lot of these ladies 290 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: a real chance. 291 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: And that's the issue I have. See what she can become? 292 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Like, why are you poking this girl? She 293 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: really truly just is a newlywed. Marriage is hard enough 294 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: and heavily doesn't have room to speak on anybody's marriage 295 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: at all. 296 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: Why no marriage is perfect? I spoke on mine. 297 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: I was warming enough to speak on mine and the 298 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: issues we've had in it's some of the issues we've 299 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: had in it, because there's no perfect relationship, but heavens 300 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: ain't perfect either. 301 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: Do you still have the receipts and the invoices? 302 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 303 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: But it's not my place to keep a journal on 304 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: anybody else's husband because I got one on my own 305 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: and I'm just not trying to do that. I don't 306 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: put shit past nobody, her husband, my husband. I ain't 307 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: following no husbands. That ain't what the show. 308 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: Was created for, right, you give it. I just did 309 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: not want to get into that. I really didn't. 310 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: And then Aiden is a liber too, and he's like, 311 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: he can't do it, you can't, And I. 312 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: Start saying, well, what you got to had? Why do 313 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: you say? 314 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Why? I'm I don't put at all, even if you 315 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: go to the gas station at least once a day. 316 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: Black brown, baby white, it's about that. 317 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Talk to me about your thoughts about Phaedra joining Mary 318 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: to medicine. 319 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: I didn't understand the correlation. You know, it really to me, 320 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: same thing I said, it's quiet. I think Fader deserves 321 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: her own show spin off, like she's in law. I 322 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: think that she has proven that she's a big character 323 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: and she's entertaining. So I don't want to make it 324 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: seem like I'm being shady, because I'm not. I just 325 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: didn't see the correlation with her when married to medicine 326 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: unless she had a male practice suit and it was 327 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: referencesenting one of the women. 328 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: I just didn't get it. I don't get it. 329 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: And I think, honestly, Fader was there for a check. 330 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: She's cute and sitting up and she was perched. She 331 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: wasn't at work. She was at a collectical coin and 332 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: it was obvious. You didn't see that as a producer. 333 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: I listen, was she there to work? 334 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: Or was she there? 335 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: But this is the thing about me, was she there 336 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: to work or collect I said it on my Monday. No, 337 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm the one listen what thing about me. That's why 338 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: it bothers me when people want to talk about me, 339 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: called me out, my name, messy whatever. Why are you 340 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: mad at me for commenting on what you're showing on 341 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: a show you signed up to be on the show. 342 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 1: I signed up to do these YouTube and podcasts so 343 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: I know that I'll get read for PHILP. I don't 344 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: care what y'all think about me when it comes to 345 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Theedra who I worked with Atlanta Housewives, great television, funny 346 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: as a wit, whims the call, you know, pomp to circumstance, 347 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: all those things. When it came to a maritime medicine, predictable, unpredictable, 348 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: the justaposition between being a Christian and a city girl. 349 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: Right. 350 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: I love that. We love it and she leans into it, 351 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: which makes it more funny because you know what she's doing. Yeah, yeah, 352 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: you know the whole like Willie Watkin's funeral home, Like 353 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: she understands the assignment. I've always said that she does. 354 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: First episode, I was like, it was good to see 355 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: her back on television because she's great TV. After episode one, 356 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: I said this public and I'll say it again. It 357 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: is anti climactic. She has brought nothing to this season. 358 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: She's a disappointment. She is there for the paycheck. And 359 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: what makes it more infuriating to me, you girls have 360 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: been there for ten seasons and you are going to 361 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: war with the people you started with, from you to Quad, 362 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: and I know that it's different wars, right, Yeah, y'all 363 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: let her get by so easily, y'all. Some of y'all 364 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: look like fans. Some of y'all are starstruck. 365 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: Do you think that maybe we had too much of 366 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: an expectation of phasia? 367 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, Number one, I call it 368 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: stunt casting. Stunt casting is when you bring somebody who 369 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: has a familiar name and fan base and use them 370 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: to get eyeballs to the show. 371 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: Right. 372 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: If she was really dating a doctor, then go Off says, 373 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: is the luck of the draw, the reality God said, 374 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: girl got something for you, Right, no doctor, no relationship. 375 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't see Apollo. I'm not seeing you do anything. 376 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: But what bothers me the most is these girls are 377 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: so opinionated, and some of them come across as fans, and. 378 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: Let's have they given their opinion. 379 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: On no Faje walks around there. I was shocked, shocked 380 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: that at Latoya's wine event when they were all at 381 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: the table and Quad, now I'm not Quad. Phaedria has 382 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: now admitted that she did switch her flight so that 383 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: she won't be on the same flight as Quad, because 384 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: what I now understand about the environment of Meritan medicine 385 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: is it's Sinkle swim. It's like it's Sinkle swim, right, 386 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: So she knew that if I'm around you, these other 387 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: girls won't mess with me. So when Pedro was at 388 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: that dinner table with her rear leather jacket and blonde tresses, 389 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: and these girls are coming for Quad, y'all came on 390 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: the show together. You knew you know Quah better than 391 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: the rest of these girls. You sat there and didn't 392 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: utter a word in the fence of her and all 393 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: of these girls because they were gas lit by whomever, 394 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: and gave all of that to Quad. When I'm looking 395 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: at them and saying, this is the one who possibly 396 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: makes more than y'all who came on the show showed. 397 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: Off her outfits, that's crazy. 398 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: It's she came. 399 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: She gave her, She gave the girls a fashion show. 400 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: She said, I'm not gonna sweat it out. I'm gonna 401 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: stay intact. I'm not gonna you girls work. And she 402 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: looks good, so I don't get fined. 403 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: That's one of this. She looks amazing. 404 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: She did. She does I know how. 405 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: To produce Pager in the sense of you gotta make 406 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: her work, make her work, clock clock in, clock in. 407 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: And I'm more disappointed in those girls for not saying, 408 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of our show, 409 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: we're not lucky to have you, You're lucky to have us. 410 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: Clock in. Let me show you what we do here. 411 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: So what's what is going on with you? No, you 412 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: are messy? What was going on here? Like what? And 413 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know she was on the show. 414 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: I would want to know some of the other things, 415 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: like what happened. You can't leave this group of friends 416 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: and and and come to this one and not explain 417 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: a lot of things unanswered questions in this group. 418 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Heavenly said that, and this is how the show works. Unfortunately, 419 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: Heavenly did say that she gave Phaedra heads up that hey, 420 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: they want me to bring up candy. What she gave 421 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: her heads up? She said this publicly, and that Phedra 422 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: allegedly called the production and the network use some curse words. 423 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: But what doesn't that strike you as odd heavenly of 424 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: all people? Do you think that she's giving Sweet Tea 425 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: heads up? Why would she give Faedra a heads up 426 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: on anything? They're not friends, they don't have history, so 427 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: it's what it's It wasn't her reputation? Was it that 428 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: she's phaser like to me like that speaks volumes? Why 429 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: would she call Faedra? I don't get that. Why would 430 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: she do that? 431 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: Phaedra has gotten that show and ran it. 432 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: You even more power too? Running bitches? Are they stupid 433 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: enough to go along? 434 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: It's crazy to me, And I say to you, it's 435 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: crazy to me. 436 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: I wish I will keep on running them. 437 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: No, I mean I deserve it. 438 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't. 439 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: If they allow it, then so be it. 440 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: Who would you like to see American Medison moving forward? 441 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: Who's your dream cast? Oh? 442 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: I know he was going to ask me that. 443 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: I don't know who the dream cast is, but I do. 444 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: I feel as though Toya should be there. I think Buffy. 445 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: I'd like to see what Genie could do. 446 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I my antennas are up for Sweet Tea. 447 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 448 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I think she's great television. 449 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't know yet. I haven't really watched. 450 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: She has potential. 451 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: Something's coming out of her, like making her rise to 452 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 3: the occasion, maybe for all wrong reasons, but you know, 453 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: I think that she will rise to do what she needs. 454 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: I agree with that, you know, I don't. 455 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: Even with the new I haven't heard the new young lady. 456 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: I think Alicia. I've never heard her say anything. 457 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Well, she's doing the Beyonce a Mute challenge and have 458 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: been doing it for two months. 459 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: It's too like, I don't get are they cutting it 460 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: out or. 461 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: Is she just not I think she's holding her breath. 462 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 463 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 464 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: It has to be saying like they have to be 465 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: editing out. There's no way she could be in all 466 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: those scenes and not saying. 467 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, she's a beautiful girl. 468 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: She's like a younger version of Jackie. To me, y'all 469 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: don't see that. 470 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: I look again, because I don't see her. 471 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: Takeingized brown like, yeah, the looks okay. 472 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: I can tell you why they casted her, why she's 473 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 3: the younger version of Jackie. But she probably has another side. 474 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: She probably has another side that they haven't shown yet. 475 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 476 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: That's interesting. She's a younger version of Jackie. 477 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: Guarantee you, but she has another side. 478 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: Is it time for some of the ogs to be removed? 479 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely. I think that they've gotten very complacent. I 480 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: think that that, just like medicine, the shows have to evolve, 481 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: and it's not evolving. It's not And then even when 482 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: they bring on new people, they stunt their growth. They 483 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: won't allow them to prosper at all. 484 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: They block them. And I don't understand. 485 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: It could be I'm telling you, it could be a 486 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: It is a good show, but it would be an 487 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: amazing show if they the producers just take their hand 488 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: out of it and just let them ladies leave, Let 489 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 3: like for real, just let it happen. 490 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: It's a group of good women. And if you. 491 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: Really just let it happen the way it's supposed to, 492 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: not tell people who to be friends with, who to 493 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: ice out, then I think that things will happen the 494 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: way they're supposed to. 495 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: We want you back on television, and by we I 496 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: mean me and the world. I'm included. 497 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm ready, I'm ready. Are they ready for me? For me? Well? 498 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: What on some okay? Ass is ready for me? Who 499 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: could take me. 500 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: Would you would you do an ensemble show? 501 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: What an ensemble do me? 502 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: I'm not getting what unsemble do me? 503 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can get in line with 504 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: the group of girls, orf they gonna line up next 505 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: to me because I'm not gonna dumb it down anymore. 506 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to I'm not getting attention anymore. I mean, 507 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: I feel like I was nice and sweet and that 508 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 3: didn't work out. I feel like I was let the 509 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: librougs I was trying to do and then look they 510 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: still hate it and they pushed. 511 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: A bitch out. So this the next time around. Yes, 512 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: I'll do it. 513 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: I'll do it ensemble. Now how long it would be ensemble? 514 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I would. 515 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: I love TV. I was born to do it. 516 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: You listen. I always say there's certain people who were 517 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion, you know, like there's certain people who 518 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: are born to be a doctor. They were born to 519 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: be an athlete. You were born to be a reality star. 520 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Oh a reality sung. 521 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna tell you no, no no no no 522 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: no no no no no. 523 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: You can have That's like me saying you're born to 524 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: be a blogger. 525 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: Let me get you. 526 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: It's not even shame you mean this? Always tell people reality. 527 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to redefine when reality started me? Is the 528 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: reality of your life? Is reality unscripted things? That's what 529 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I meant, just like I. 530 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: Was born to entertain. 531 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: Oh you're entertaining, but you are meant to be on 532 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: reality television and make a mass millions off of that 533 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: and multiple streats of income. 534 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: Right. You know the funny part you're saying that is 535 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 3: I never felt like that. You know what I felt like. 536 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 3: I feel like my gift is and this is what 537 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: people don't get why I was never jealous of any 538 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: of those ladies. 539 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: My gift is bringing the best out of other people, 540 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: making other people. 541 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: I can see that. 542 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: But in that I lost myself, like I forgot to. 543 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't know too many people who could come out 544 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: and say, pressure, watch this motherfucker nasty as that's my point. 545 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't even try but listen to me, that's my point. 546 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: I felt like that. I know it was dirty ship. 547 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: Well look she I'm painted it now. I like the white. 548 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: I ventured the pressure wash it every other week. 549 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: No, I know with some I just know it's started. 550 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: I see one and when they're being real. When you 551 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: said pressure washes, motherfucker, we all contaminated. We something said, 552 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: and then you have these you have these moments that 553 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: are you can't make them up. You are meant to 554 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: be on television. Do you have anything in the words? 555 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Are you? 556 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: I do? 557 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: But I don't know if you're gonna like it. I 558 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: have a you know, I have a talk show coming. 559 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 3: It's called The Glow Up in heavy negotiations. We filmed 560 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: three episodes here e sleek, full studio audience, and I 561 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: am so excited about it. But it's not the Mariah 562 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: that you've seen in the reality way. 563 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: You know, It's still me, my personality. 564 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: It's you know it, And it's the other side of 565 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: me that loves entrepreneurship and recognizing so many minorities like 566 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: you and I that had to work so hard for 567 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: a seat at the table. And that's what this show 568 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: is about. 569 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: Congratulations, Yeah, how. 570 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: You got a seat at the table? 571 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: Telling your story how hard it is and not only 572 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: getting one, keeping one. 573 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: Nobody talks about that. 574 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: Yes, you reign supreme in reality TV, but keeping that spot, yeah, 575 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: it's so hard. 576 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: No, And people don't get it because I don't think 577 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: people know that it's hard to run a production company 578 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: full service. I am responsible for the crew, the editing, 579 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: and the cast, and all of this is a big 580 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: to do. I think people think I just said in 581 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: my clothes and read the girls and you don't and 582 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: eat some chickpea tuna like I Literally, it's a lot 583 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: of work to do. But that's the reason why I 584 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: think you are meant to be on a show that 585 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: focuses on that. 586 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, why don't you create one for me? 587 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, I know, would you be open to co creating 588 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: one with me? 589 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: I would? 590 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: I would, and I will let me tell you and. 591 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: I will work that mother, So yes, God, I would. Honey, 592 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. Ready, I am ready. I miss it. 593 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: I hate to say it. 594 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: Be doing, you know, I even know I am like, 595 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't. Really I needed a moment. I'm gonna be honest. 596 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: I needed a moment because I wouldn't have been productive 597 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: for anybody. Like. I was angry. 598 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: I can say that I was angry for the way 599 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: things played out on Married to Medicine. I was very angry, 600 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: But you know what, so be it. 601 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 602 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm ready for the next step. I told 603 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: you what you gonna do? Love in medicine. I got 604 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: some girls in mine. What would be the perfect cast 605 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: for marriage to medicine. I'll tell you the perfect cast 606 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: for love and medicine. 607 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: Love and medicine, Atlanta. 608 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: Oh there you go. You already think a franchise? 609 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: Already, you already, and I got some girls. Mm hmmm, 610 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: I too, Yeah, I bet you won't be giving opinions 611 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: on merits and medicine for too much longer. 612 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: What you said. But you know why. I am so 613 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: proud of you. 614 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: I heard I heard Oprah give you a shout out 615 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: for your one hundred. 616 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Yes episode The Love and Maritionsville. 617 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: How does that feel? 618 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: You know what it's. It's the combination of my hard work. 619 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: It's not it's not easy to do what we do. 620 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't talk a lot about my difficulty being in 621 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: this business. I relate to you so much. I know 622 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: what it's like to be iced out. I know what 623 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: it's like to have a machine come against you. I 624 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: know what it's like when you surpassed people's expectations of you. 625 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: I know what it's like for I know what it's 626 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: like for people who look. 627 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: Like you, your own race turn on you because they're afraid 628 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 4: of they're afraid of going against the machine, and they 629 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 4: they now publicly despaired you. You know, they call you 630 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: out your name, they make up stories about you, they 631 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 4: tell you know, it's it's all because the only thing 632 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to do was I just want to do more, 633 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 4: to be told you burned the bridge, to be told 634 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: that it's it's it's it's people don't understand it's it's 635 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: it's kept up, it's. 636 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: Stept up, and we're libras. And there's the moments of 637 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: I cried myself to sleep at nine medium nights because 638 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: I was like, the world thinks on this person when 639 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: if you ever meet me, you would say, he's like 640 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: the nicest, sweetest guy. He's funny and what ch'a don't 641 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: understand that he's doing. He's talking about you because he 642 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: cares and he knows that his voice is powerful. So 643 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: it's going to just put more money in your pocket. 644 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: But when you have somebody in your ear, what is 645 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: most hurtful for me is that the people who are 646 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: loved similar to you, who you gave opportunities to, they 647 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: turn against you because they know that there's people who 648 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: sign their checks, there's people who are the opposite race 649 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: of them, and they're afraid of them. There's a lot 650 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: of black people and unscripted who are afraid of going 651 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: against the white man so much because because because there's 652 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people who believe white is right white. 653 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: And I am going through that as we speak. I'm 654 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: going through that as we speak. 655 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: And why we create such amazing content when we create 656 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: all of these things, if we have our own studios, 657 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 3: we have our they can't recreate what we do. They 658 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: can't duplicate it. And it's not about white or black. 659 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: But I'm saying, when you were born to do certain things, yeah, 660 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 3: and you create magic. We just have to know our 661 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: power because it's getting to a point with social media. 662 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: Do we need certain things? No, you do it ourselves. 663 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: But you've shown that, You've shown building this impot that 664 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: you have. And that's the reason why when I reached 665 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: out to you, I said, listen, I could talk to 666 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: you all their long, child, but I need to use 667 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: my platform. And I said, I want to get a tour. 668 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: I want the world to see what this black woman 669 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: has created in her silent times. I know what it's 670 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: like for God to hide you when I left in 671 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: Line of Housewives and I love at a time where 672 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: I was being attacked by a cast and some other people, right, 673 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: and I left shitting. 674 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: On your name. 675 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: Oh, and I moved to LA. I moved to LA 676 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: because I wanted more for myself and it was hurtful 677 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: and I cried. 678 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: Carlos, look at you now you're reigning. 679 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. I am so proud of you, and I 680 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: mean that from the pits of my heart and you 681 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: when I look at you. 682 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: I see the possibilities. 683 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: Thank you. 684 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: I don't even want to go to social media and 685 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 2: I mean that, but I'll go to yours and say 686 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: I can do this. 687 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: Maybe I should just let's see what So know that 688 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: seeing you do it and what you can do, it 689 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 3: inspires and it uplifts and you put a little miss 690 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: into it. I mean, so be it. We're born to 691 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: do something. Yes, we like extra credit. 692 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: So much. 693 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: We were born to be seeing too much. So that's 694 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: what that's the greatness in it. 695 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 3: But I am so proud of you and to see 696 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: you continue to create and not just create shows, create jobs. 697 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: People don't get that part of it. 698 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to reality with the King New 699 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Share, comment, follow, and 700 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: subscribe to Reality with the King. 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