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Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. I was reading the Saturday paper today

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday the weekend two pages. Question Texas the

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor Show dot com. Without any further ado, let's

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Speaker 1: kick the garage doors open because we have a full

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Speaker 1: over and talk to Mike and Florida two thousand bubic,

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Speaker 1: less saber and a power window problem. Mike, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Sir. How can I help? Last week

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Speaker 1: I was driving and I tried to put the window

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Speaker 1: not activated. And noways they had no problem whether you

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Speaker 1: when you push the button, whether it was up or down.

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Speaker 1: The little light was not lit, but when you shut

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Speaker 1: the engine off, the windows would work, okay. So what

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Speaker 1: it's telling me is that we've probably got a bad

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Speaker 1: ground or a corro corrosion somewhere in a connector, which

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Speaker 1: preface that by saying, Mike that you know, whenever I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at a power window, power door lock, something driver

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Speaker 1: my mind about broken wires inside the door. Harness. You

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Speaker 1: know that that rubber boot that comes out, because I

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Speaker 1: don't care what it is for GM, Chrysler, Honda, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They all break wires. It seems like in

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Speaker 1: maybe that'll be when I go into retirement. I'll figure

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Speaker 1: this is a two thousand less saber. What was common

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Speaker 1: that will be Ground two oh two. They were, they

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Speaker 1: were known to corrode and get loose. And there's a

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Speaker 1: you it's under the left front sill plate where all

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Speaker 1: not an uncommon failure, not an uncommon fault. Obviously. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'd like you to get a wiring diagram and start

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Speaker 1: about a used vehicle. Mark, Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 1: How can I help Hi? Ron? Uh, just need some

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Speaker 1: doing most of MC driving, uh, just short trips uh,

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Speaker 1: be he used a pick up, excuse me, a travel trailer. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's less than three thousand pounds. I'm looking at, uh

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Speaker 1: I wonder which you would recommend it. I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: looking for a compromise between my Milesberg Gallant and durability.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the numbers off the top of my head. Mark,

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Speaker 1: what's the what's the MPG between the three five and

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Speaker 1: So that there's my answer. Get the five. Oh, and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I'll defend. I'll defend the statement.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're towing with it. It's a truck if

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Speaker 1: the three five is a Peppi engine, and the two

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Speaker 1: sevens no slouch either. I mean, all of these are great.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm an old cubic inch man. All right.

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Speaker 1: There's no substitute for cubic inches. And you know, my

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Speaker 1: trans lines, the heavier duty, the charging system, everything is

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Speaker 1: just a little bit more, all right. It's it's it's

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Speaker 1: just a different vehicle. And there's nothing like a you know,

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Speaker 1: just damn, it's just you know, it's just probably who

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Speaker 1: So okay, all right, sir, he appreciate. It's like you're

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Speaker 1: very welcome, sir. You take good care, You're very welcome.

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Speaker 1: to Mike out in Long Island with a fourteen Subaru

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Speaker 1: outback and some problems with gee a Subaru. WHOOPI do, yes, sir, Yes, Mike.

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Speaker 1: How can I help you? Mike? Mike, Mark and Mike

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Speaker 1: um anyway, Mike, how can I help you start running

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Speaker 1: any of the car? Doctorate your service, Mike. Mike going once.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we caught Mike by surprise. I'm moving too fast.

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Speaker 1: I can go to an email. Let me go do

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Speaker 1: a quick piece of email. I've been trying to get

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Speaker 1: this works. Hey, Ron. My name is Mark. I'm working

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Speaker 1: was twenty nine thousand miles. I've had a problem with

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Speaker 1: the airbag light coming on when it was called. The

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Speaker 1: censor because every phrase that replaced the front impact centsor

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Speaker 1: the front impact censor if they ground When you're screwing

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Speaker 1: two wires going in out of it that completes the circuit.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again. My name is Mark um Mark Listen. Airbag

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Speaker 1: just because it's setting a fault code for a a

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Speaker 1: a front sensor doesn't automatically mean it's the sensor alright,

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Speaker 1: what we want to know is do we have continuity

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Speaker 1: going back to the to the to the module, in

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Speaker 1: to prove continuity in the circuit. That maybe get a

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Speaker 1: gonna be a left side and a right side air

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Speaker 1: Look at your sensors. Okay, um, you're saying, I believe

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Speaker 1: you're saying that it's recording that the sensor. Well, actually

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Speaker 1: you don't say that. It says the front impact sensors.

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Speaker 1: The problem. How does it say it's the problem? Is

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Speaker 1: the circuits open, you've got it unplugged. If you unplug

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Speaker 1: what does it own? How does it read? All right?

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Speaker 1: then we can go and attack the driver's side seatbelt buckle.

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Speaker 1: Because maybe you're gonna solve you solve the one problem,

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Speaker 1: if you need more, zero, please give me a call.

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Speaker 1: I'm run on any of the car Doctor. We'll be

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Speaker 1: losing money or the vehicle or anything like that. You know,

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00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: if if if this law, if this law firm is saying, hey,

427
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: give us a hundred bucks, will make it part of

428
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,239
Speaker 1: the lawsuit, I tell him the pound salt, all right,

429
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 1: But you know, if this is more about finding out

430
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: about the frame. Right now, my sources at Toyota tell

431
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: me that that vehicle is not under the recall and

432
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: it's it's not it's not you know with they deem

433
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: a ruster. Uh, you know that's gonna that's gonna rust out.

434
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what the future holds. They don't know

435
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: what the future holds. Uh. You know, a lot of

436
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: this has to do with, you know, how Toyota Corporate,

437
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: you know, determines, because the problem was for everybody just

438
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: tuning in maybe, is that they had issues where the

439
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: frames are manufactured and how the metal was treated, and

440
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: then where they were used. That they were used in

441
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: salt belt states typically the northern US, Upper Minnesota, you know, Oregon,

442
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: that part of the country, a lot of snow, a

443
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: lot of salt, a lot of you know, salt containment, Brian,

444
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It rots the frames. So you know,

445
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: now to their credit, to their credit. Uh. You know,

446
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: my guys in the dealership tell me they've got a

447
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: stack of twenty frames outside the door every week because

448
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: they're changing frames like their nor do you know what

449
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: it is to change the frame on a truck. You know,

450
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not like changing a flat it's a

451
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: lot of work, and Toyota, Toyota, to their credit, is

452
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: doing the right thing and they aren't changing out all

453
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: these frames. You know. The the bigger issue is is

454
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: your is going to be considered part of it? I

455
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: don't know that answer. And if it isn't, does that

456
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: mean that it will rust anyway? Because just because they

457
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: say it doesn't doesn't mean it won't. And you know

458
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 1: the best answer I've got is time will tell. Who

459
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: changes the oil on this truck? Right now? Sylvan Um.

460
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: I usually change between the dealer and then, uh, every

461
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: now and again, I've gone to like a valveoline conclude

462
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: type of place you need you need to relate mostly dealer. Okay,

463
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: you need a relationship with somebody, all right, I mean

464
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: I say this all the time, but you need to

465
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: you know what you need to bring the service writer

466
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: or the mechanic or whoever's gonna change this a cup

467
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: of coffee next time, have a quick conversation. Hey, here's

468
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: my vehicle, here's my concern. You know, I'd like to end.

469
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: If it's the dealer, I'd ask for and this is perfect,

470
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: I'd ask for a formal inspection of the frame for

471
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: any rust. Yeah, because if you listen, that's not a

472
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: bad it's not bad timing either, because I moved from

473
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: Colorado to Vermont recently, and like I didn't have any

474
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: rust on the thing when I was out there. Obviously

475
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: I moved out here. Now I'm like uber sensitive to

476
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: it because it looks like everything's resting through. You know,

477
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: I've never been all right, well, yeah, you're in Vermont.

478
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: You you're not. You're not You're not. You're not in

479
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: Kansas anymore, Dorothy, Uh, you know, and and and at

480
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: this point, and at this point the concern becomes. You know,

481
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: if you if you tell the dealer, hey, check it

482
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: for rust, even if they charge you fifteen minutes, you know,

483
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: what is the twenty six bucks. Let them charge you

484
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes for you know, fifteen minutes of their time

485
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: to a frame a frame rust inspection. That means you'll

486
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: have it. That means you'll have a report that says

487
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: rust or no rust. If six months from now the

488
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: frame has rotted out, you can go back to Toyota

489
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: and say, one of your professionals inspected my vehicle. It

490
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: was fine. Now six months later it's rotted out. What happened? Yeah,

491
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: it's on record and you've got it documented. Uh you know,

492
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: but we're just the vehicle's coming up on ten years old,

493
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, in in were months. It will be model

494
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: your twenty eighteen out for sale in September, so you

495
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: know what it's it's just a good time to just

496
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: start keeping track of things a little tighter, that's all. Yeah,

497
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: it sounds good. All right, Okay, thank you, thank you.

498
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You're very welcome. Certain thanks for being

499
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: part of the car doctor family. We appreciate you. Let's

500
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: get over and talk to Larry out in South Florida

501
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: with an oh seven VW. So how can I help?

502
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm doing good. I'm trying to keep

503
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: my promises here. Yeah yeah, which what what what was

504
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: that to? Uh? Well, I promised v W in the

505
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: beginning of two thousand and ten that I would personally

506
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: decimate the sales of their company, and it was pretty funny.

507
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: But it turns out it was about the diesel with

508
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: their exhausting missions that I happened to file four lawsuits

509
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: against v W, one in arbitration and one against the

510
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: b W North America and filed them filed the complaint

511
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: about the fumes of the car making me and my

512
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: family sick in the town where I bought that car

513
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven. Oh, you're the guy that started

514
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: this whole mess. Huh good for you, I actually am.

515
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was praying. In December twenty three, two

516
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: thousand nine. I had gone to Utah. My son begged

517
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: me to go, and it was the first time I

518
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: woke up in the morning. It didn't have to lay

519
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: down and spend the day in bed from driving that car. Well,

520
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: you know what v W stands for it, don't you?

521
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. Would you like to know? Listen,

522
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: I'll tell you If I tell you what v W

523
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: stands for. When you get the court with them, you

524
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: have to use this line in front of the judge

525
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: because if it makes national news, I want the credit

526
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: for the by line. Okay, okay, Well listen, how am

527
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: I gonna get You're gonna help me get in front

528
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: of the limelight with this. Well you are in front

529
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: of the limelight, baby, you're you're a national radio right now.

530
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: You know what v W stands for? What? Virtually worthless,

531
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: virtually virtualless. Huh yeah, yeah, So what's your question to me?

532
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: What can I do for you? Well, I was hoping

533
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: we could get something going with them, because I did

534
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: make that promise and I did mean it, and I

535
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: was very you know, not that I was happy that

536
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: I was right, But it turns out that I was

537
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: appredicted about that t V I. And you know, they

538
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: still say that it only started in two thousand nine,

539
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: but I read a news article about three four months

540
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: ago saying that the first ones that they outfitted with

541
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: the diesel deception was one Audi and the Volkswagen luxury vehicles,

542
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: which is the one I had, and they did it

543
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand six. Well, just to let you know

544
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: what you're up against, I was just reading the article

545
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: this morning in that you know, Volkswagen is gonna pay

546
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: like a four and a half billion dollar fine. I

547
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: think the article talked about Volkswagen has thirty three billion

548
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: with a b dollars in cash on the books, so

549
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: a four billion dollar fine it's like a drop in

550
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: the bucket to them. You know, they offered me twenty

551
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: five or six years ago, and I didn't even answer him. Well, yeah,

552
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. I mean, I'm no lawyer, but I wouldn't.

553
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 1: I would just you know what, if you can, if

554
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: you can hold on, because obviously you know what it is.

555
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: You know they're they're all lawyered up, and this is

556
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna drag on for years. This is not gonna get

557
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: settled quickly. But um, I would hang onto the car

558
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: and you know what, you make a heck of an

559
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: argument that, uh, you know there's a lot going on here.

560
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll leave you with this. If

561
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: something changes in this story and you've got something newsworthy,

562
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm more than glad you give Tom Ray a call.

563
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: You call us at the twenty four hour number, the

564
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero. Well what about newsworthy? Like

565
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: my son was unconscious when he got out of that

566
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: car after a trip, Well, it's pretty newsworthy to me,

567
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I got, I got, I got

568
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: a stack of papers three ft high on this. The

569
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: mother of my children and I separated over it. My

570
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: my oldest son had had He didn't travel with us

571
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: on the trip so he didn't get sick, and then

572
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: when he did, right in the car. We ended up

573
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: at Lake Winno Posaki, New Hampshire, fourth of July two

574
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: thousand seven. My whole family spent the weekend in bed. Hey, Larry,

575
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: I feel for your babe. Unfortunately, I gotta go to

576
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: the Clock's gonna grab me. You get something big and newsworthy,

577
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this isn't you get some more information?

578
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: You give us a call back. We'll talk about it

579
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: up here on air. You'll be my Volkswagen Roving Reporter

580
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: zero nine zero run nading the Car Doctor coming back

581
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, welcome back the Car Doctor and

582
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: motoring along. Let's go over and talk to Jim and Marlborough, Connecticut.

583
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: One Chevy Blazer ast and pick him up before wheel

584
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 1: drive blazer kind of thing. Jim, Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir.

585
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: How can I help? Hi? Going rolling along? Man? What's

586
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: going on? That's good? I have this tooth. I was

587
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: in one a Blazer. It's the S ten Blazer. It's

588
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: equipped with automatic headlamps and I'm having a headlamp problem

589
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: with it. I only have low beam. I have no

590
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: high beam, and the high beam indicator is lit all

591
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: the time as long as the lights are on. The

592
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: high beam indicator is on even though they're on low beam.

593
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: When I switched the high beam. The indicator light is

594
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: still on, but I have nothing for lamps. Then it's

595
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's separate bulbs on this car for low

596
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: and high beam right right right, right right right, Um,

597
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: their automatic headlamps too. I don't know if I mentioned that,

598
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, Um, If you have the ability or

599
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: if somebody has the ability. As dumb as this sounds,

600
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: I'd scan it. I'd scan the body the bc M

601
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: for codes, just to see do I have any faults

602
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: electrically wise in any of the body controls the other

603
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: The other reason I would want to do that is

604
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: because I'm lazy, um, which you know. I like to

605
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: work a little smarter, not harder, And that if I

606
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: have a scantal that's capable of it, I can buy

607
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: directional control and turn the high beams on. So do

608
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: I have the ability to override the vehicle controls and

609
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: just turn the high beams on? If they don't turn on,

610
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: then I've got a problem somewhere in the wiring leading

611
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: up to the headlamps, more so than the actual devices

612
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: that control it. If that makes sense to you, all right, Okay,

613
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: The fact that you get a high beam indicator tells

614
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: me that it's probably after the high beam relay, because

615
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: there is a relay involved in this that feeds out

616
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: that's located I believe in the underhood fuse block. All right, um,

617
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, but there's a high and a low beam

618
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: relay in a park lamp relay. They do, they do this,

619
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: They do this vehicle with a lot of relays. They

620
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: were relay happy back in the early two thousands, you know.

621
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: But then again that was this was way before modules

622
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: were as good as they were and they could do

623
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: all the switching with electronic components, you know. So and

624
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: that being said, this could just be a bad relay.

625
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: This could be a relay that flicks on the indicator

626
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: but doesn't you know, cross the leg to send out

627
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: to the headlamps themselves. Now, it happened all of a

628
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: sudden too, by the way. It was just you know,

629
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: I was working fine and all of a sudden. Right now,

630
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: that that being said, Okay, you know, if you have

631
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: if you're under hood and you find the relay and

632
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: you you know, you match the number and it's part

633
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: number one, and you've got the fog lamp relay which

634
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: works the fog lights work, and sitting right next to

635
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: it swamp um. You know, give it a shot now,

636
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: just on the on the weird chance, the one in

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Speaker 1: a million, not one in a million. But it's it's

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Speaker 1: not totally uncommon. Could I have two bad headlight bulbs,

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Speaker 1: high beams? I mean, anything's possible, right, I realized that,

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Speaker 1: you know, but here's an example where you know what,

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00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: if you had a wiring diagram and a half hour,

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00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: you could probably sort through this real quick and easy. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, just just something to be aware of. Here's

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Speaker 1: the case. You know, it's funny. I'll tell you that.

645
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a quick story. Then I'm gonna go.

646
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: I was talking to the guys over at all Data

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Speaker 1: this week and we were having a conversation about wiring

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Speaker 1: and information and you know, because they have a product

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Speaker 1: cause All Data D I y that you can buy

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00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: a license in a subscriptions like you could buy a

651
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: subscription for this vehicle. I think it's like thirty forty

652
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Speaker 1: bucks for the year whatever it is. And I said,

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00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: and I asked him, and I said, so who typically

654
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: buys it? And they said, well that do it yourself.

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00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: For a guy that's trying to work on his own car.

656
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: That's frustrated and tired or not have an information, and um,

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00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: that's the guy. And you know what here you are,

658
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: you're the You're the you're the example of it. If

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00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: you had a wiring diagram, you'd go through this and

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Speaker 1: about a half hour forty five minutes. So because it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty simple car. So but look at look at

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00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: those things. See what that does for you, Jim. If

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Speaker 1: you need more, you know where to find me. All right,

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00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: you take good care five zero zero The car Doctors

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00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: coming back right after this. Back the car doctors on

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Speaker 1: fire here as we roll along this hour, Mike up

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00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: in Maine. You're up next at the car doctor hot

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Speaker 1: line five zero nine zero zero. How can I help? Sir? Ron,

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00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. I have a two thousand

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00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: five dods Ram STL quadcat pick up and some of

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00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: the lights work and some don't. For example, only when

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00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: headlight works when you hit the high beam. The light

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00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: works on the driver's side, low beam it works on

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00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: the passenger side. Three blinkers and backup lights don't work.

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00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: One break light doesn't work. Took it to the Dodge

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00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: folks and they are saying it looks like the power

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Speaker 1: distribution center I use a relay center may have a

678
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Speaker 1: short circuit. You don't make a part for it anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I'm in a search for a part. There may

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Speaker 1: be some solutions, isn't Isn't that amazing, right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know ten eleven year olds. Although I listen, I

682
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Speaker 1: opened the hour. I don't know if you heard the story,

683
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 1: but I opened the hour talking about how micro center

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Speaker 1: couldn't keep a CPU fan in stock for a two

685
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: year old computer and make that I was really taking

686
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: my hat off to the car companies because they do

687
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Speaker 1: a heck of a job, and I think they do.

688
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: But here you are a ten eleven years old and

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Speaker 1: you can't get a critical part for the vehicle. And

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Speaker 1: that seems to be where it falls in eight eight

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Speaker 1: nine years. That's it. Go buy a new vehicle. That

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00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: that being said, all right, UM, ask your Dodge dealer

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Speaker 1: if they have access to and or utilize I don't

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Speaker 1: know the website address off the top of my head,

695
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: but I know there is an obsolete or they call

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00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: it classic roll par parts where they'll keep new old

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Speaker 1: stock inventory. All right. They tried, they tried that, and

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00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: they said they couldn't find when they did a nation

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Speaker 1: white search. So then the next step is and I

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Speaker 1: would prefer to see something coming out of southern California,

701
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: New Mexico, Arizona, a dry state. Get out there and

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00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: have him look through the salvage yards and find a

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Speaker 1: wiring harness that somebody will cut out and mail to you,

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00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: because that's that's about the only other solution you've got, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, to make this thing work. Unfortunately, and this

706
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Speaker 1: is not uncommon, this is one of the biggest complaints.

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Speaker 1: I hear this with Christ the Row all the time

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Speaker 1: from wiring harnesses and fuse blocks and powered distribution centers

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00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: for a lot of their vehicles. They just don't seem

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00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: to keep them around like they once did. So you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to search for something used online, Thank God

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00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: for the Internet, and go from there. Mike, I wish

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Speaker 1: you a lot of luck, and if anybody out there

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Speaker 1: can help us, let us know. I'm on any car doctor.

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Speaker 1: Mechanics aren't expensive, gift placeless