1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dan Hansis alongside Chris Westling Hey, Mark Sessler, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: and the Boss Greg Rosenthal. Where they around the NFL 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: podcast Check us out three times a week as we 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: discussed the latest NFL news as it happened, always of 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: course with a touch of mirth. Subscribe at NFL dot com, 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, iTunes and Stitcher. And now Moved the Sticks 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody? DJ? 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Bucky back here with Moved the Sticks Bucky Episode one. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: I know, I feel like we need a celebration, like 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: a cake. I thought I thought we might have some poppers, 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: you know in here helps out a little bit today 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: hyphen but no no poppers. TD, by the way, couldn't 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: make it um to episode number one hundred. I thought 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: he might stop by pocus heading here, but he's apparently 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: out shooting some jumpers. Although it's eight o'clock, there's no 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: way t D's up yet. I mean, I don't know 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: how tds on it different schedule, you know, he's kind 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: of on a different schedule. We'll we'll see, by the way, 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: we'll check his Instagram post and see when he posted 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: another jump shot uh flurry on Instagram. He works out 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, right, well, yeah, two o'clock post two pm. Hit, Yeah, 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: two o'clock workout. By the way, I'm sure I'll forget 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the episode because I'm it's just 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: that time of yere I'm forgetful, So I probably should 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: have to jump here real quick, bear with us just 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: to thank some some people that have helped us through 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: this process. Place or TD. We give him a hard time, 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: but he kind of launched this whole thing off the ground, 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: so I want to be sure to thank him. Hythings 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: behind the glass right now, who's kind of taken over 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: as we've launched into this video, uh segment of the 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: podcast that we're doing. I believe we have Mr Tally 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: back there, uh, looking very a dapper behind the glass, 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: very very strong. I know you can't can't back. There's 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: a nice job. We've got Sully who's on again, off 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: again here and then he was on a break and 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: he came back. Then we've had Will Pile, who's who's 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: done a good job. I'm sure there's a million other 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: names that that I'm forgetting. Brandon's done a nice job. 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: We've had a bunch of people work on this thing. 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: It's been a fun project and hopefully we've got many 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: many more to come. So Episode one h day, Bucky, 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: here's what I wanted to do and see if we 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: can pull this off. I want to do a little 45 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: bit of a stockwatch. Okay, not not based off what 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: we think of the players, but not only what we're 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: watching right now, it's what you're hearing and talking to 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: people around the league. So maybe some guys that we're 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: seeing in these mock drafts and hearing the buzz about them, 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: but then when you talk to people, maybe they're a 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: little bit lower, the expectations a little different. And then 52 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: the flip side of that, maybe some guys were not 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: hearing a lot about they could end up surprising us 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: with how high they go. So we'll do a little 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: stock report. I want to do this deal where I 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: want to break some ties. When you give out grades 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: of players when you're watching them, A lot of times 58 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: you have the same grades on players. You've been there, 59 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: done that, you know the deal. So what I thought is, 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: I'll give you some players I have the same grades. 61 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: I must see if you can kind of bust up 62 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: that cluster and uh, and you like best. And then 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the last one of the last things I want to 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: do today. And I know you've you've got some NFL 65 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: now duties, so we're not gonna have a super long 66 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: episode today. But one of the last things I want 67 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: to do. My favorite thing. One of my favorite things 68 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: this time of year, when you're watching tape because you've 69 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: seen the same tapes over and over again, you're watching 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: all the guys in this year's class. There's always some dudes, 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: some underclassmen that aren't in this draft that pop right now. 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes you go back and study those guys next year 73 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: and maybe they don't live up to the flashes that 74 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: you saw, but there are guys that kind of flash 75 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: at you. So I want to just kind of throw 76 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: some of those names out there. What we're kind of 77 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: looking to the future a little bit. It's looking in 78 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: the future. I know, we need to look in the backfield. 79 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Those running backs. Oh, we're gonna get there. We're gonna 80 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: get there. If you like, If you if you're running 81 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: back fan, you want to stick around for the end 82 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: of this podcast, We'll get into some of those guys. 83 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: But first here, Bucky Stock watch, maybe some guys I 84 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: got I've got nfl dot Com slash mock draft up 85 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: right now, and I've got to, you know, look at 86 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: all these players here. So I'm gonna give you. I'll 87 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: give you a player that I think the stock maybe 88 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, training in a different direction, and you go 89 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: give me your thoughts on that and then come back 90 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: with one of your own. You're ready, all right? All right? 91 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: We had him in here, um in uh Kwan Treadwell, 92 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at these we kind of have him 93 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: kind of in the teens in that area. Um, what's 94 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the highest we have him going right now? I think 95 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: tread Well. Yeah, like fifteen sixteen, Like he's right in there, 96 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: Bucky man. I look, I talked to a lot of 97 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: people around the league. Nobody expects him that I talked to. Nobody, 98 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: and I mean nobody expects him to go in the 99 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: top twenty that I talked to. It's funny because the 100 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: more I think about it, the more I think he 101 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: could be destined to fall into the second round. I 102 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: don't think that's out of the round with possibility. I 103 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: think some people listen like you're crazy, No, this is 104 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I think I think the Cleveland Browns could be sitting 105 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: there at the beginning of the second day in Kwan travels. 106 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Then they have to make a decision on could this 107 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: guy be the number one receiver? Just because when you 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: when you look at and you you really kind of 109 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: weigh all the pros and cons of him versus some 110 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: of the other guys. So like say we put LaQuan 111 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Tredwell with Mike Thomas, Tyler Boyd some of the other 112 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: guys that speed defisihing but have similar skills in the 113 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: first round, do you value Lakwan tread Will far more 114 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: than another player at another position that has value? You 115 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: talking about the defensive tackle class, some of the corners, 116 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: those things when you're weighing, you know, we talked about 117 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: lumping guys. Would I be fine with la Quan tread 118 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Will and maybe an Already Burns, or would I'd rather 119 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: have Eli Apple and Tyler Boyd? Like weighing the consideration, 120 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: and so I think he could fall out of the 121 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: first round. So I don't think that's a stretch. I 122 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: don't think he's a lot to be in the top 123 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: twenty for sure, And I think the possibility is kind 124 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: of growing that he could possibly be a second round pick. 125 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: All right, give me one here, buck, stock up or 126 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: stock down with what you think. Man, Like, when I 127 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: talk to people like it's funny and maybe I'm not 128 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: talking to the right people, but I hear up and 129 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: down stuff on Noah Spence in terms of where he 130 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: the people I talked to, it's down, yeah, like like 131 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying. Like early he was heavily 132 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: in the mix, heavily in consideration, but then you value 133 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: pass rushers at a premium. If you're looking for edge rusher, 134 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: they're only a handful. And he was so dominant the 135 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He was so solid doing his play on 136 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: tape that you're excited about it. But then when you 137 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: look at him and the workout, the pro day, the combined, 138 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: and you factor in the character stuff, I just have 139 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: a tough time finding people that are excited about him 140 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: as a guy that could be amid to upper round 141 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: first round pick. And I know when I'm madrast we 142 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: kind of had him into twenties. I'm just kind of 143 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: surprised based on what he's being able to do that 144 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: he would be a guy that falls to the bottom 145 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: of the first round like that. Yeah, I'm with you 146 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: on that. Joey Bosa is another name that when I 147 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: talk to people like we've kind of like, oh, yeah, 148 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: he's a top five pick. But then I have a 149 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: lot of guys like, man, I hope someone else takes him, 150 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: because that means would be another good play. The funny 151 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: thing is the h the team's I hear a lot 152 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: of that from the team's picking at the bottom of 153 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: the first round, which I'm always skeptical of, like what 154 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: do you want this dude to fall? Like why would 155 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: this benefit you if you're just ragging on Joey Bosa? 156 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: And and a lot of them will. And then but 157 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: then I've got, you know, some connections and contacts. The 158 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: teams inside the top ten. They love Joey Bosa. They 159 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: can't get enough of Joey Bosa. So and then again 160 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: are they Well maybe they're saying that because they want 161 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: someone else to take him, so then he'll you know, 162 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: he'll get another player. I don't know, but I I do. Look, 163 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: if if Joey Bosa does not go in the top 164 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: seven or eight picks, I will be shocked. I mean 165 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: I would be too, just because of what he is. 166 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: And we can say a lot about whether he's a 167 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: super explosive athlete or not. It's hard to find a 168 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: better player with his hand skills. I gotta kind of 169 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: understands how to play the game and do some of 170 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: the other stuff. So I mean you you you would 171 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: think that that would make him a top five, top 172 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: six pick, But you never know because the movement on 173 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: draft day could be such that it changes that. It's 174 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: completely upsets to Applecart when it comes to how the 175 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: picks come off the board, no question. Um. Let me 176 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: go back through here some of the names I've mentioned 177 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: it before on here about Will Fuller. You know there's 178 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: I know a couple of teams have him as the 179 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: best receiver in the draft class. I wouldn't be shocked 180 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: fans at being the first one off the board. Here's 181 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: one for you. This is one of your guys too, Bucky, 182 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: because I know you love Clemson players. As a guy, 183 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you can not get enough of the Clempson. Dude, I 184 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: get stuck with all the Clemson guys. Yeah. So I 185 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: just asked, you know, two or three different guys the 186 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: other night, Mackenzie, Alexander, wh do you think he goes right? 187 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know what the answer that 188 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: I got oh fifties. Wow, I was like, okay already, 189 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: then wow, there's not I mean, I have you talked 190 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: to anybody that loves him. No, he turned a lot 191 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: of people off with his interviews. Um, a lot of 192 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: people off. Maybe if he comes with a different approach. 193 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: But he came in and kind of portrayed himself as 194 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: someone who really knew the game and stuff like that. 195 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: And then when they put the film on and they 196 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: put him on the board, he didn't really know or 197 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: he couldn't articulate what his responsibilities were. Um, he just 198 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: kind of came off as a quote unquote con artist 199 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: when it came to what he knew, what his football 200 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: knowledge was. And I mean a lot of defensive Baccoa 201 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: just went at the comment. They just were not buying 202 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: his act. And then when you turn on the tape, 203 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: I see more of a one dimensional player, gut it 204 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: his uh bump and run player. But he doesn't have 205 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: ball production. He You're worried about the speed. He ran fast, 206 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: but you just wonder he has to go to the 207 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: right game. So it really narrows the pool of of teams. 208 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: That would be interesting because unless you play man to 209 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: man like you have other guys over him because you 210 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: saw them on tape do other things. I have him 211 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: as my twenty three overall player, and when I told 212 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: that to one of my buddies, he's like, dude, he's 213 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: got no shot going. Wow, it's funny because I'm pull 214 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: my list up. I think I have him at thirty 215 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: one or thirties two. I think you're more. I mean, look, 216 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: and I like the guy because of his his quickness. 217 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: I liked him because of his mirrorability. Um, but look, 218 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: there's no ball production to speak of. UM doesn't have 219 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: ideal size. So I have him thirty two. I have 220 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: him thirty two, and it was the ball production. And 221 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: then I said he was rarely challenged. I like his fearlessness, 222 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: I like his aggressive demeanor and that stuff. But I'm 223 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: worried about the size and a speed. He proved those. 224 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: He proved the speed thing at his pro day, but 225 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: I wonder about that. It's it's funny that you, you know, 226 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: you say that because I have him kind of pigged 227 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: as a twenty two. He can go. I think he 228 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: can go anywhere from twenty to forty. Because as much 229 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: as these guys will say, oh, he's in the fifties 230 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: when the run on corners go because when you really 231 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: think about it, like we got the top guys, and 232 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: then after that it's a hodgepodge and you can't have 233 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: the choice of McKenzie Alexander or Xavien Howard or McKenzie 234 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: Alexander and cyrh Jones McKenzie Alexander and Already Burns Like 235 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: I told you, my dude, man, I know he's coming 236 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: off injury, but I like Will Redmon from Mississippi State. 237 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good value pick. Xavian 238 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: Howard is another one that I like, you know, very 239 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: very good player. And Smith North Carolina, Central Bucky Don't Sleep, 240 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: I know, Central, Little Eagle Pride. Uh. It's tough because 241 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: the corners are kind of you talk about that lump together. 242 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: And look, we know eleven and twelve corners are gonna 243 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: go off by the by the end of the second round, 244 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: so if you're gonna get one, you have to grab 245 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: one of those guys soon. And so the fifties just 246 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: seems so low. No, it does. I look, I'm just 247 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I told you where I have. It 248 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: sounds like that that he could end up dropping down. 249 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: All right, you got anybody, uh, I'll tell you who. 250 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: Cody white Hair. Remember all the buzz early in the 251 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: cock drafts he was in everyone's first round. I'm not 252 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: doing not hearing as much yeah about that, And I 253 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's it's completely flipped, Like that's that's gone, 254 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: that's no longer a thing. Like it was a very 255 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: popular picking mock draft to have him slided somewhere in there. 256 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not hearing anything about him being in the 257 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: first round. I like and I like, I like white Hair. 258 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I have him in the forties, I think, early forties. 259 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I think he's the uh. I think he's the best 260 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: guard in this draft class. Um, it wouldn't shock me 261 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: because he's the top of it his his position group. 262 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: If he ended up somehow sneaking into the to the 263 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round, I think though, at the 264 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: end of the day probably ends up just going to 265 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: the top of two. He's a good player. He's a 266 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: good player. But you don't you don't hear a ton 267 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: of buzz about him. Yeah, I have him forty four. 268 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh my, yeah, I'm in the same ballpark. Yeah, like 269 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: um uh, I mean you like it's an interior offensive lineman. 270 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: I think. I don't know what you think, but to me, 271 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly is just far and away the best interior 272 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in this draft. He is. But I don't 273 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: get excited about interior guys unless they're super athletic, like 274 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: I think. I think he is pretty athletic. I think 275 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: he's better than Khalil. When when when Khalil came out 276 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: sc Khalil ended up going what in the twenties, maybe 277 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: thirty somewhere und there. He was a first round pick. 278 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: I think the second round pick. Hold up, Hythan get 279 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: he's on that, he's gonna work on that. Well, I'm 280 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna give you. I'm gonna give you another name while 281 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: we're looking up to see when Ryan Khalil went. Because 282 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Leo was a second round pick. It was a second 283 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: number fifty nine overall. You know what I should know that. 284 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: You know why because that was the same draft we 285 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: took Ben Grubbs in Baltimore that same year, and so 286 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: then we had but Khalil, I believe was our highest 287 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: rated player when we're going to the next round, like 288 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: we already took an interior guy. Uh, he was good. 289 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: He was close to be in there when we picked 290 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: it was, it was discussed in the room. I remember that. 291 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Then we came back in the third round and got Yonda. 292 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: So if we would have just like you know, I said, 293 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: we're going all in on the interior, we could have 294 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: came out of that draft with Ben Grabs, Marshal Yonda, 295 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: and Ryan Khalil. That's a pretty good hall. That's pretty 296 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: good hold. Your fans would have been excited. No, wouldn't 297 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: have want us to press conference, but you've been really 298 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: good on the field. But but the presser, it would 299 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: have been hard. A guy that I'm hearing buzz on 300 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: that could be a first round pick that could go 301 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: higher or early than most people can imagine. Kenny Clark. Okay, yeah, 302 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like Kenny Clark. He 303 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: just kind of falls into He kind of goes on 304 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: the radar. But I'm hearing in the teams of her 305 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: teams in the teams have interests. They like him, they 306 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: like his versatility, the way he plays kind of crazy 307 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: because when I mean that defensive tackle, well, that's the 308 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: part of the decision with where a guy like um 309 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: Kim d could fall. Because you're sitting here going Okay, 310 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Kim has got more physical ability than tools in Kenny Clark. 311 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: But Kenny Clark's a better football player on the field, 312 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: and I have to worry about any of this other 313 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: stuff with him. Yeah, I know what I'm getting, and 314 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: so disailing maybe a little lower, but I know exactly 315 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: what I'm getting, and sometimes there's value and that that 316 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: proven production knowing exactly what you're getting. All Right, I 317 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: got one for you here, Bucky. Um, I'm gonna tell 318 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: you a player that I I loved on tape and 319 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: I gave him he's got. She's probably in my because 320 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I ranked my top fifty and everything else is kind 321 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: of gets sorted by grade. So but I'll give you 322 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: an example here of where I have these guys. So 323 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: I have my top fifty with a ton of defensive tackles, 324 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: but right outside my top fifty, I've got these three 325 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: defensive tackles. Okay, A Dolphus Washington from Ohio State. I've 326 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: got Adam Gotsis, who I've talked about from Georgia Tech, 327 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: coming off the knee injury, who I love as a 328 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: football player. I think if he was healthy, he'd be 329 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: an easy second round pick. And then the third guy 330 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: have on there is Javon Hargrave from South Carolina State. 331 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Now Javon Hargrave with where my grade is with those 332 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: three guys, that puts him probably in like the sixties. 333 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I won't be shocked if he goes in like the 334 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: thirties or forties. There is a lot out of buzz 335 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: on South Carolina State Javon Hargart. He's a really good 336 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: football player, big, fast and physical, quick, tested really well 337 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: to stack production. Uh dominated small school competition. The game 338 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: didn't look too big for him when he had a 339 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: chance to play against the league competition. So I mean, 340 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: I think the the buzz and the momentum is valid 341 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: because he is a really good player and he has 342 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: the trace that we look when we're talking about those 343 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: blue chip trays. He has all of those. Are you going, 344 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: oh man, I just had one. I'm gonna give you one. 345 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Way you're thinking of one, I'm gonna give you. We 346 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: talked about this off the year yesterday at pent State 347 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: NASA CARS NASA car NaSTA possibly sneaking into the first 348 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: round long he's athletic. I know it was just a 349 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: one year, but big time production this year. They like 350 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: him when they talk to him and interview him. Um, 351 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: it's a lack of supply to man. Yeah, there's not 352 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot of addressers. So he's somebody that I think 353 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: he that could be my ultimate sleeper first round pick. 354 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: Is it somehow NASA slid into the bottom of the 355 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: first round? You kind of you kind of threw that 356 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: out there. Um, I mean I think I think it's 357 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: a good thing. I think the guy that I would 358 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: say some people are higher on than I am, Hunter Henry. Yeah, 359 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: I know he's Oh yeah, there's a lot there. And 360 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I have him in the forties, but there's a lot 361 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: of love on the streets for him. Maybe I have 362 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: him in the thirties. Actually, Um, I'm trying to figure 363 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: gonna look that up. I see, I keep all this 364 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: for they haven't been thirty five. People at home can't 365 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: see what I'm doing here. So I have all this 366 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: on an Excel sheet so I can sort it by 367 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: my grade by position, or I sorted by you know, 368 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: my top fifty. How I have that setup. So let 369 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: me see Hunter Henry. I have Hunter Henry at thirty six. 370 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm thirty five, So were he could he could go 371 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: on the first easy? I mean he certainly could in 372 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: their teams that need tight ends in the bottom of 373 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: the first round. So, uh, the Green Bay package our teams, 374 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: that comes to mind. Uh, even though they signed up 375 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Cook, I think they sent Jerry Cook in. Yeah 376 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: they did, but I don't think they would preclude you 377 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: from taking a chance on Hunter here or you being 378 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: able to work the middle of the field. Um, another 379 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: one here and we'll move on after this one. I'll 380 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: give you one more for this one, Bucky but t 381 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: J Green I know, Um, Lance Zerline, I believe, Yeah, 382 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: he put him in the bottom of his first round. 383 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: That that's one I've talked about before on here where 384 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: teams some teams from him as a corner, some teams 385 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: from him as a safety. I know you've been intrigued 386 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: by him, Bucky, but I again, I talked to a 387 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: bunch of people that said the don't be surprised if 388 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: he goes in the first round, and don't be surprised 389 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: if he's drafted. And they say he's a corner, highway speed, 390 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: he's long, he's fast. Um, we were in Seattle. We 391 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: were notorious for being able to tell you guys who 392 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: um and say he's like you know what, he can't 393 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: play safety, but you know what we could do. We 394 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: could put him in a corner, put him in bump 395 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: and run and let him run and Jason kind of 396 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: limit uh some of the things we're asking him to do. 397 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: So maybe t J. Green is viewed like that. Also, 398 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: because he's over six foot, there's a lack of six 399 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: ft corners available in the league, so you always are 400 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: intrigued by those guys. So I wouldn't be surprised to 401 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: see that. Uh, maybe one more Bucky then we're moving 402 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: on more man. My guy has taken on water. I 403 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: still like him as a player, but he has taken 404 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: know what. Alex Collins from Arkansas, Yeah, I feel like 405 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: I like him. I like I like his teammate better though. 406 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: See I have Alex forty nine in my top fifty. Okay, Um, 407 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: he runs hard, runs hard or whatever. He's a little 408 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Jamal Lewis short stepper. He just doesn't have Jamal Lewis 409 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: juice ball security sixteen phone was is a lot. But 410 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a really good player, but 411 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: like I am not hearing enough buzz about him, so 412 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: I think, um, I'm gonna be kind of like the 413 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: last man standing on him with Keane O'Neill. By the way, 414 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: I sneaking on Moe Nder. The buzzer count of Neil 415 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: has got a lot of buzzs from Florida Safety. So 416 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that one. And you know, I 417 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: think the thing that I'm waiting to see is uh 418 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: you guy Karl Joseph. Yeah, um, everyone loves him at 419 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: a player, but when do you pull a trigger coming 420 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: off an injury, like, yeah, well, everything I heard of 421 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: he's gotta go back for the recheck, the combine recheck. 422 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Everything I was told was that the knee looks good, 423 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine, he'll re he'll recover. And there's 424 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people and I see it and I look, 425 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: I I love the dude, I have him, and I 426 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: think early thirties, I would he would be my probably 427 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: my top twenty without a knee injury. But how many 428 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: times have you heard it when you talk to people, Man, 429 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: this guy drives me so much. Earl Thomas, A lot 430 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: of people say that, actually I said the earl. Earl 431 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: was a earl was unbelievable. Nickel though he could come down. 432 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: They're covered like crazy. But in terms of the range, 433 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: the toughness, and the ball skills from the deep middle. 434 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: I don't think he's an athlete like that, but I 435 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: do like what I see you on tape. It'd be 436 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: interesting who goes first, car Jos for kJ Delon. I'll 437 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: take Carl Joseph in that one. I like kJ two. 438 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: All right, but let's just break some ties here. You ready, 439 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: um to do do do do well? I just mentioned 440 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: one of them, so so help me with this one. 441 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Adam Gotsis or Javon Hargrave. I gave him both the 442 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: same grades. I would take Hardgrave because Hardgrave offers more 443 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: as a pass Russian. The production, okay, the fact that 444 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: he's healthy. Yeah, okay, all right, that's a good one. 445 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: We're ready to break another one. Yeah, here we go. 446 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: All right. I'm gonna give you two different type of 447 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: guys here. Dione Owns linebacker l s U Josh Perry 448 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: linebacker Ohio State. Hm. I'm more porttionate of the speed 449 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: in the athleticism. I will go with Dion Jones. I 450 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: think Deon Jones has an opportunity to stay on the 451 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: field more because the nickel situations. UM. Josh Perry, though 452 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: he ran four six eight. He he can. He's a 453 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: straight line dude. He's got range, he can run it. 454 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: Just the change of direction stuff. Yeah, I would. I 455 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: would go more so um with Deandres. I think Dean 456 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Jones will be an easier sale than most teams because 457 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: I think you can do a little more with him 458 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: than Josh Berry. Josh Berry is a good player though. 459 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: All Right, you want to get in the weeds real 460 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: quick with one. Okay, let's do it, all right. I 461 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: know you know, you know these guys are. It's just 462 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: they're a little bit lower down here, all right. Contrell 463 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: Brothers who we've talked about machine or Tyler Matakevic from Temple. 464 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. The people at all retire to know Bucky. 465 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: They're dying. I am man. I'm still a believer in 466 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: the tape. So I'm gonna go with Knch your old brothers. 467 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: Um a ton of production, uh limited in terms of 468 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: his athleticism, but box to box he's gonna suck. I 469 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: mean he's gonna vacuum up everything he's in, clean up 470 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Auto's place. Um. By the way, I'm gonna going back 471 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: for a second. Max Turk from sc is another one 472 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: who's gonna end up probably getting picked higher than people 473 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: even talked about him because he's been hurt the center. 474 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: But he's gonna end up. I won't be shocked if 475 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: he went in the second round, gonna probably go on 476 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: the third round. If it's all said and done, Oh 477 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: you put me on somebody from se they may go 478 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: hire and most people think and we never talk about 479 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: him quarterback. Oh yeah, Cody Kessler. There's some love on 480 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: the streets. There's some love on the streets for Keler. 481 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: So when you're on draft day and you hear the name, 482 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: don't fall out your chair because you're heard it here 483 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: first on the Mood of Sticks podcast that he is 484 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: going to go. He's gonna go higher than That's what 485 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting. Yeah, before before you can even before you 486 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: can even get him on your list, his name may 487 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: be called oh yeah, oh yeah, um, all right, let's 488 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: get uh, I'm gonna get you another one here. Okay, 489 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: here you go, same same city, l A. Would you 490 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: would you rather have Trey Madden or Paul Perkins? Mm 491 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: hmm man. Trey Man is a bigger, more physical back, 492 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: but Paul Perkins in the right system. I think we 493 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: talked about the period of Thomas Thing. I would take 494 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: Paul Perkins. Perkins can stay healthy too, Yeah, I would 495 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: go Paul Perkins. Okay, Um, a couple more. I'm gonna 496 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: hit you with the Raven Clark or Jason Spriggs. Mm hmm. Look, 497 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Jason Spriggs fan, and I know 498 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: the limit the limitations that he has, and he's a 499 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: better athlete than player right now. But I felt like 500 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: he was. He was pretty solid the Senior Bowl. Um, 501 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: he had a good week. He had a pretty good week. 502 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm a bank on his upside and potential. 503 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: Overlook Raven Clark. The Raven Clark is just a physical 504 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: freak in terms of those long arms. He but the 505 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: offensive line coaches love him. Dude, don't be shocked that 506 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: he goes. Oh he could, he could definitely go Hi. 507 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm just man, I's just worry about I just worry 508 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: about every worry about speeding quickness. But if he learned 509 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: how to use his length, it won't be a problem. 510 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: You can shore st and just kind of wall those 511 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: guys off. You could be good. All right, I'm giving 512 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: you two more. Okay, one more, let's go one here 513 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Okay, by the way, I need 514 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: to figure out. I got to look this up on 515 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: the pronunciation because Jacoby, it's Jacoby Brissette or is it 516 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett, because I've heard people say it both. I've 517 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: always said Brissette. Somebody maybe on Twitter can help me 518 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: out with that. I thought it was Brissette when because 519 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: at Florida thought it was I don't think it was Briscett. 520 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: I think it's Brissette. So who are you going here, 521 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette or Kevin Hogan. I'll take Jacoby Brissette over 522 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Hogan. Um. I think you get the bigger player. 523 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: I think they're comfortable athletes. He has once some games 524 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: at Florida. He did, especially the nc State. He was 525 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't know if you had much to 526 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: throw to n NFC State. Uh. I kind of see 527 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: him as crazy because e J. Manu was the first 528 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: round pick. But I see them in a similar funny, 529 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: I said, I said, he reminded me of Gino. I 530 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: thought it Gino was a little bit better version of Jacoby. Alright, 531 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: last one, Bucky, because I know we gotta get running here. 532 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: I gotta get a couple of names for you from 533 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: for the next year. Here last one to tune. Let's 534 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: see here. Okay, here we go wide receivers. I have 535 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of them with the same grade here, So 536 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you with two that I like and 537 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: I know you like him as well. Leonte Carew from 538 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: Rutgers or Kolby listened b from TCU. Man, that's a 539 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: very tough one. Uh. I think you break that one 540 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: based on what you need. Lu to speed guy, you 541 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: take listen. Leonte Carew is a terrific guy. I think 542 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna wear people out. Think he could be a 543 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: nice number three receiver. And Colby listened be is the 544 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: perfect speed receiver as a number three coming and take 545 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: the top off. Bonus bonus. I'm putting Malcolm Mitchell in there. 546 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Two three guys. You know. A couple of years ago, 547 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: I had a guy tell me about Malcolm Mitchell. Malcolm 548 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: Mitchell was a dB turned wide receiver. Uh, super explosive athlete, 549 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: hurt his knee. I was at the game he heard 550 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: his name was against Clemson. Just now getting really on 551 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: a celebration, like weird um explosive athlete. He is a guy. 552 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Did you talk about like a little sleeper pick. Yeah, 553 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: he's one. Give me one to three real quickly. Those 554 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: guys one to three, I am more partial to go. Listen, 555 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: be carew and okay that's good speed speed. Alright, you're 556 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: already late for this meeting. So I'm just gonna get 557 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: real quick here. Guys that pop when you're watching you 558 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: still you said running backs, you tease that go get it? Oh, 559 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I can't help but stop looking 560 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: at Leonard four Nette. He's believable. He is unbelievable with 561 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: the ball in this hand. I mean and old school 562 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: whammer that you just want to fee. I mean, he 563 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: just doesn't break stride when he runs. Dudes over, No, 564 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: he's he's a good player. Kind of give me some 565 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: so you mentioned him. Dalvin Cook with his explosiveness jumps 566 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: off the screen from Florida State. McCaffrey is a bad dude. Man. 567 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: When you watched, you really look at him. He is 568 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: good quick. He's gonna play running back. He is gonna 569 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: be a big time mismatch player that the other running 570 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: another running back from that class. And know we talks 571 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: about what we talked about. The guy from Oregon a 572 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: little bit who's a good player. Boys Freeman. But the 573 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: kid from Oklahoma, p Rhyan, that's a truck. But how 574 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: about that p Run and Joe Mixing And Joe Mixing 575 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: is another one. Both of those guys. But oh my gosh, 576 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: next this this because comes out. But all of those 577 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: guys came up at the same time. And there's a 578 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: guy in North Carolina, Elijah Hood. He is one that 579 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: would get some love. I haven't and I haven't paid 580 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: much attention to Nick Chubb that Georgia got got his knee, 581 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: But he's another one that that's interesting. Um, you know, 582 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see. Uh, Shaun Watson, what happens 583 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: with him? He makes a lot of plays. He's a 584 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: playmaker back there. Fun to watch, you know, It's it's 585 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: funny to me. I kind of compared him to Marcus 586 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Mariota with a little more possess, a little more juice 587 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: in terms of his personality. But the way he plays it. Uh, 588 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: he plays the game kind of like listening to shoddy music. 589 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: It's just smooth. It's real easy form. Uh. He has 590 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: all this stuff. If he works and cleans up some 591 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: of the stuff in his passing, it I mean, you're 592 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: talking about a guy potentially I'll give you another one 593 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: from L s U. And I don't even know what 594 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: grade he's in. I don't even think his name is Adams, 595 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: but thirty three there, Adam. That's a bad dude. Man safety, 596 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: oh man, buzz around and smack people. Was he a 597 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: sophomore this year? He'd be junior next years? Football? He's 598 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: a good player. Uhd ells you you could just we 599 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: could make a three. How do they lose so many 600 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: games every year? He wanted to that's the best looking 601 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: team and they play on the same side with Alabama, 602 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: So someone's going to lose. Like they have to look 603 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: me through good looking Malachai free wide receiver, okay, wide 604 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: receiver l s U long range. I mean there the underclassman. 605 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: So needless to say, we're gonna be seeing a lot 606 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: of L s U next year. Well, I mean, hopefully 607 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: we can get out and get on the road and 608 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: get to some of those games. But those Alabama dudes 609 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: aren't bad. To me that you mentioned that, I mean that. 610 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like I saw saw the tight end do 611 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: his thing in the playoffs. J Howard, So I mean, Johnson, 612 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: you can't go back in time. But man, Tim, will 613 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: you think he would be the first tight end to 614 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: come off the board? Come on, man, I'm just saying, 615 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: do you think like if? I mean, I know we're 616 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: not supposed to speculate, but imagine if O. J. Howard 617 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: in this draft and just say he went to the 618 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: comment and ran fourth. So I know we're not allowed 619 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: to talk about underclassmen where they would go, okay, but um, 620 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: let me just just say this. You can't say it 621 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: because you get in trouble if we say this guy 622 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: would be a first round pick, this guy be a 623 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: second round pick. But if if you think O. J. 624 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Howard would have been the first tied end in the draft. 625 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: Just knocked real quietly. We didn't say anything technically, and 626 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: we did not say anything right there, So no rules. Man, 627 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna get me fired. Oh no, if 628 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: it were just knock. If the R and B episode 629 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: did he fired? That ain't happening. T D, T D 630 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: and the parents back there? What is up? I know TD? 631 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: You know what. TD probably got his shots up because 632 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: you know today's mom was last game. Oh he's actually 633 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: where he's watching players wearing black. His mom was his 634 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: mom was last game in l A. So like all 635 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: of the city is almost shut down. People are already 636 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: going to the Staples Center because his mom was last game, 637 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: and maybe t D decided to go somewhere down there, 638 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: one of sports clubs down there and get some shots 639 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: up in Momba's memory. All Right, you need to get going, 640 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: so you get out of here. Bucky's got got some 641 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: work to do. We've got man, we got a jam 642 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: pack day to day, Bucky. We've we've got to go 643 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: uh mock draft live show that's coming up. We've got 644 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: path to the draft. Bucky's leaving right now to do 645 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: a little NFL now. Um, so it's a busy day. 646 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: Hi thumb, can you can you do me a favor? 647 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Can you put the can you put the old krusty 648 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: man on the microphone? Here? I gotta ask him what? 649 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: I gotta ask him a question. Yeah, he's got something 650 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: special for you to coming up. Oh does he really 651 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: let me throw him on the mic? Heare okay? I 652 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: need I need to talk to t D for a 653 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: second here. First of all, did you see again you 654 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: you have? For those that aren't don't know, this is 655 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: our hundredth episode mentioned at the top and this is 656 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: t D t D. I thought it'd be cool just 657 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of tell people about how this whole thing got wrong. Yeah, 658 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: well we actually I would say this too later, but 659 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: now we're here, might as well do this, do this now. 660 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is all out rolling. You want me 661 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: telling the story? Yeah? Yeah, So, I mean this is 662 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: one day, you know, it's working on a couple of 663 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: other things, and I was like, you know what we 664 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: don't have. We didn't have the on the field stuff. 665 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Like the guys were like, you gonna and Bucky now 666 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: eventually gonna dive into why why the game's happening, and 667 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: why these players are doing what they're doing, the skill 668 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: set side of things, that front office side of things. 669 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: So you know, I hit you up and to my surprise, 670 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: that's my surprise, but you were excited. You're like, oh, bro, 671 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: this is what I've been trying to do, what I 672 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: want to get into. UM, and it just sort of 673 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: went from there. And obviously, you know, obviously your enthusiasm 674 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: from that point sort of carried it on. I mean, 675 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: you showed me your initial move the stakes or old 676 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: school hay back and still have the shirt to prove it. UM. 677 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: And you know it's it's definitely come a long way. 678 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: Ever since then, we've gone through a couple of different artwork, 679 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: graphic type looks, and to a point now you know 680 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: we're doing shows you're done the three sixties and they've 681 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: most have been through a few like opens. I actually, 682 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: do you remember how we opened the first episode? I'm 683 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: not you're gonna play for you the second one? Why 684 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: I do? But by the way Johnath rolled back in there, 685 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking, people that have been involved in this, John, 686 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, you know, h Johnny Rightdale hig State Zone. 687 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, Um, he's been worked he's worked his butt 688 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: off on this for a long definitely especially in the 689 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: video room of you know, since this past season you know, 690 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: jump on YouTube. But yeah, episode one, the very first 691 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: intro fire plate though asked me this, who's my favorite quarterback? 692 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. So let's take a listen. This is the 693 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks Podcast with me Daniel Jeremiah Wills. Stop 694 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: back at the port. Oh, go down, He's got it 695 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: tuck down. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Move the Sticks Podcast. 696 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Jeremiah. Nice to have you with me today. 697 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: This is a brand new podcast, and tell you a 698 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: little bit about it. It's gonna be kind of an 699 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: inside look at the football world from a scouting perspective. 700 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: Look at that. Wow, we've come a long way, young. 701 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: I joked, I joked about the other day about being 702 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: most improved. How that's just the worst of word to get. 703 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: But I'm literally going to give myself the most improvement, 704 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: not because I'm any good now, but just because how 705 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: bad it was at the very beginning. Look at me 706 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: try so hard with the Russell call at the top, 707 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, audio films, music, all that type of stuff. Man, 708 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: that was that was awesome. And then quickly have episode two. 709 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: Episode two is when we actually got our first intro, 710 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: who's done by Dick Banks. Is a great music guy. 711 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: Damn shakes guy. Um he's he's the guy who created 712 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: an intro right now. But before what we have right now, 713 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: we had an initial intro which we use about fifteen 714 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: twenty episodes, and you know, we wanted we had a 715 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: call because back then essentially talked after every episode like, hey, dude, 716 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: what's what's working, what's not? What We're like, We're like, 717 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: change it up. Episode two has the first intro we 718 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: ever had, and before I play that. Who's my favorite 719 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver? You got my favorite quarterback? That was right? 720 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: Have you seen where you might Calvin? Whoa look at that? 721 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: Come on? Man? Oh yeah, here we go Move the 722 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: Sticks with Daniel Gerald Maia. It's the easiest touchdown he's 723 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: had here. What's up? Everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks 724 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: episode number two. We made it to two? Man, did 725 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: you was there part of you at that point in 726 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: time and thought, there's no way we get to that? 727 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: That was actually was your line after that episode of 728 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: it two we made it. We're here? Uh so, no, 729 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a great it's been a great ride. 730 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: And ever seen what this has become from this at 731 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: a video show? To hide them on board the similar producer. 732 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Um So, it's definitely been great. Obviously a huge all 733 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: of it just thanks to people who jumped in and listened. 734 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the other thing I'd like to 735 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: do this that I'm not gonna get all muss you here, 736 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: But it really helped us early on when we launched 737 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: this that people were listening on iTunes and they would 738 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: they were going in and they were leaving us reviews 739 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: and that kind of built up some momentum built up 740 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: some buzz, so then when people stumbled across the thing, 741 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: it didn't say, you know, it had two reviews that 742 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: we had. You know, we got over a hundred reviews 743 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: pretty quick, and people got to kind of figure out 744 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: what the show was about because people did that. So 745 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: thank you to everybody that that took a little time 746 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: out of your day and and put that in on 747 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: iTunes to really help us get going. You know, definitely, 748 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: and especially at that time, it wasn't necessarily the quantity 749 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: quantity of reviews and most of the quality we got 750 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, some people in the business and your connections 751 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: to people like listen, hey check this out, and that 752 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: was definitely helpful and great. Um. And then last thing 753 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 1: I wanted to point out too, it's a little little 754 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: stats quiz here. This is actually going to be one 755 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: hundred episode one hundred and two. Shut up, it is, Yeah, 756 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: I missed one hundred. Well here's the thing, technically, because 757 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: because of the three six vido, he had the two 758 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: three sixty episodes last year with your audio only, which 759 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: we're I was still say, you know, it was audi only, 760 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: but probably some of the finest work still to this date. 761 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: We had Jamis Swinson three sixty and Marcus mariyotat three sixty. UM. 762 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: So those are those counts, like the extra two on 763 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: the side, kind of like the tracks special episodes, and 764 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: then also a most downloaded episode. Two of our top 765 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: three most download episodes has Jamis Winson's title naming it 766 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah six it was number one, UM, and then number 767 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: three was a was sort of a random episode we 768 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: did last year just what the playoffs started, breaking down 769 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs, top quarterbacks, and a little Jamis Wiston preview 770 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: before obviously he entered the draft. So this has been 771 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: has been been good to us. Yeah, we've got a 772 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: good Jamis to come on, man, Yeah, I know right, Yeah, 773 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: we've got Look, it's it's been cool to see this 774 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: thing grow. It's and everybody here NFL media kind of 775 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: get behind it. And we've got this video thing going, 776 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: which I think we talked about the three sixty audio 777 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: episodes being the best thing that we've done. I do 778 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: think that the three sixty interview that we did with 779 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: the German Wide receiver Mort's Boing Boinger is one of 780 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: my favorite things that we've got to do since we 781 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: started this whole thing. I know it's got a lot 782 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: of views here. Just in the first day, I think 783 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: we had over thirty thousand YouTube views like in day one. 784 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: So um, if you haven't checked that out, go go 785 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: check out that video on the NFL channel. Just pump 786 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: and move the sticks and you can see our entire playlist. 787 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: I think we have over well over a hundred videos 788 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: on there already that we've put out, So that one 789 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: was a phone. His story is fantastic. He's a guy 790 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: who watched watch YouTube and decided he wanted to play. 791 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, he is going to be 792 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: a Madden favorite guys that speed Yeah, Madden, Monster Man, 793 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: Madda Moster, Moats. He's going to be a beast and Madden. 794 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: He was a lot of fun. And somebody on somebody 795 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: on Twitter hit me up and said, you totally missed 796 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: the opportunity to brand his nickname because well, I said, 797 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: mo right, he goes his last name is boring, It's Mobo. Mobo. 798 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: Mobo was beautiful. I was thinking a little I told 799 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: the guy, I'm like, I apologize, I'm stealing that. That's 800 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: that's it gets picked. I'm calling him Mobo. I was 801 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: thinking a little mo though little mod like going the 802 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: ironic route. Well, he's definitely a big guy, but you 803 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: go a little more. Then, his trainer reached out to 804 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: me on Twitter and said that where he's working out, 805 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: they call him the mo train because it's like he's 806 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: got his momentum building up. Everybody's after him to the 807 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: mo train. Yeah, hey, that was awesome, TD. Uh, I 808 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: did you have such a loyal fan base because it's 809 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: only a hunting forty characters? So I think Bucky on 810 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: Twitter last night and the TV fan Club came hard 811 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: and strong and was like, whoa, what about producer TD? Hey, 812 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: give him a shout out. It's like, but we can't 813 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 1: get his his ego right now, he's his jump shot 814 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: has improved or else. He's just shooting a lot of 815 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: footage in order to show us the ones he's hitting. Um, 816 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: but I can't. You gotta keep that egoing. I mean, 817 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: if if you guys are on camera, the gays on camera, 818 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: that I'm doing my job just being behind the glass, 819 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, That's that's how I see it. Especially with 820 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: this show. It's definitely been a definitely been a fun 821 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: ride for show and seeing what it's becoming. The team 822 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: keeps growing so well, it was all your idea, man, 823 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it because it is my favorite thing 824 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: that I get to do here. I do a lot 825 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: of different things where a lot of different hats, but 826 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: this is the part of my day that I really 827 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: enjoy coming in here and working with everybody. We have 828 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: a great team and uh and TD you started it, man, 829 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: So I just want to tell you thanks. Oh. Definitely, 830 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: a podcast is only as good as his hosts, man, 831 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: So you've definitely carried this up to the point where 832 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: it's at now. And obviously having Bucky on who Bucky 833 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: I believe he was on the very first episode. Was 834 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: that on episode footy two or footy three? So he's 835 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: been here for more than half to ride as well. 836 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: So seeing what you guys have been able to do 837 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: and you know, continue to do is fantastic and big 838 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: things you know plan going into future. We'll put our 839 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: heads together after this draft, put a game plan together 840 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: for the fall. But I'm hoping we can maybe even 841 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: take a shot at this thing. Who knows, maybe three 842 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: days a week. Well, we'll keep we'll keep grinding and 843 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: put some content out there. But that's trying to side 844 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 1: hide them to a long term college. Yeah, we're working 845 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: on that. It's our caps a bear, man, it's an 846 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: absolute bear. We're gonna get. We're gonna we're gonna hyde 847 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: them getting locked up long term. All right, Well that's 848 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna do it for us today. Fun episode apparently episode 849 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: one oh two not one D. But I appreciate you 850 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: everybody listening again, go check out all the videos on YouTube, 851 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: NFL dot com, slash podcast, or iTunes for the audio. 852 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys being along for the ride. We'll be 853 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: back next week. We're getting close to the drafts about 854 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: two weeks away. See you later. Thanks for downloading Move 855 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, 856 00:38:52,560 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com slash podcasts w