WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, August 14 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:11.520 It is a Wednesday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.040 Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by the Fields Auto Group. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.239 And now a guy who's always physically unable to broadcast 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.759 while because he likes being on a pub list, J. P. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:31.120 Shad Rick. It doesn't make any sense a pub physically 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:37.240 unable to I got it, I got it, I got it. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.840 Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:46.160 JP Shadrick with John Osier. That was Joe Fortunado. We've 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.720 got a nice show for you today coming up. The 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.960 camp has closed officially, so the Jaguars training camp is over. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:58.800 Preseason continues. The starters. Will they play? Maybe not? Yeah, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:00.840 we'll get to the philosophy you that, as we've talked 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.280 about throughout the week. Here the uniform unveiling. What will 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.440 the Jaguars that do play tomorrow night? What will they 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.880 wear when they play tomorrow night? Jimmy Luck will be 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.200 in head equipment manager to tell us. Thank SPANNERO from 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.640 Philadelphia Eagles dot Com. The Eagles Insider joins us on 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.000 the phone a little bit later, and we'll get his 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.480 thoughts on Nick Foles no longer being in Green and 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:26.959 Malik Jackson donning Green this year former Jaguar. Well hear 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.000 from Dave coming up players to watch tonight, John and 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.319 I will what we won't do deep tracks like we 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.720 did last year, at least in this show. Maybe later 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.640 in the scene, but we'll they we'll call it players 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:42.000 to watch. That's right, Uh, that's coming up a little 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.839 bit later today is well, so glad you with us today. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.720 Let's you know, the camp got heated. You know, the 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.320 last day of camp, um Dug Maroon stops practice, calls 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.760 everybody over, kind of gives him a hey, let's cool 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.040 down a little bit. There was some chirping back and forth, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.880 and it wasn't two plays later. I don't think that 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.279 there was a big fight between Conley and Jalen Ramsey, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.280 and you could just tell that the tension of camp 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.400 was just starting to get there. Well, and that's been 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.359 uh brewing for a little bit. And when I say that, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.880 I mean Jalen and Chris Conley have been going at 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.639 each other. Uh, not like that, but it's been heated 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.000 competition and neither one of those guys as the personality 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.480 type to back down. I don't get the idea that 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.919 it's a you know, fractured situation. This was camp by 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.919 two guys fighting, competing very hard, and you know what 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.639 it's it's it's okay to have a guy on offense 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.280 who when Jalen talks, he gives it right back. I mean, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.320 I think that's what it's all about. I also think 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.520 there was certainly an element JP. This is my I 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:49.240 think it's or I guess fifteen camp in Jacksonville. And 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.919 I don't want to say it's the hottest I've ever 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.760 felt it because the first four or five days were 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.200 pretty you know, well, we're pretty okay. The last four 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.000 or five days we're up there with any I've experien 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.480 So after a while, when you're out there, yeah, I 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.919 was out there in it and I didn't working out, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.519 and I wanted to give you a shot. So I 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.160 can imagine if I'm in pads and I'm competing, So 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.239 I wouldn't, you know, I don't think anybody really has. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:15.880 I wouldn't read too much into the fact they were 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.119 going at each other except for the fact that it's 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.040 it's very competitive between those two in practice, and I 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.360 think both of them tell you it's a good thing. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.200 It's a great I think it's a really good thing 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.160 as long as it doesn't spill over it and hurt 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.679 your football team. You don't want to hurt any of 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.720 your teammates athing of that kind of stuff. And we'll 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.840 see moving forward, separated. I want to clarify because sometimes 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.680 when you read things on Twitter or even read things 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.400 in a story that I write, Um, when you write 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.360 altercation or hubbub or hullabaloo, whatever it is, there's no 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.120 video of it. So as these guys got into it 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.880 for maybe two or three seconds, we're separated quickly, and 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.120 I never felt anything after that about to start. I mean, 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.680 so this kind of thing, if it was ten years ago, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.440 you might not even mention because they would have been 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.160 two or three others involving fifteen guys. This was just 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:10.560 a training camp, you know, pushing and shoving and yeah, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.560 maybe a little wrestling, little wrestling in the end zone. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.280 Move on, right, Yeah, big deal. Cam Robinson back on 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.640 the practice field this week, individuals and walk through work, 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.039 and obviously the expectation is to move him ahead of 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.560 the next week or two. And what would you want 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.480 to see him ideally? Would you want to see him 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.520 next week against the Dolphins or is that too quick 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.080 for you, ideally, but I'd be surprised given the pace 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.560 that they have chosen to bring him back. Um, I'd 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.680 be surprised if he plays against the Dolphins, but I've 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:49.160 been surprised before, so I'm not saying it won't happen. UM. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.400 What we don't know and probably won't know until the 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.359 week of the opener because I don't I don't expect 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.800 nearly as injury information next week after we get out 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.080 of this phase as we have right now, because now 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.800 it's starting to get into strategy. They don't have to 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:07.000 say until the Wednesday before the opener what Guy's status are. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.840 So I expect that, you know, to go dark. That's 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.680 how the league is. Um. What we probably won't know 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.840 until that Wednesday is what is coming off the pup 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.520 mean for Cam. You know, there's a process, and people 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.120 tend to think when they read a report like Monday 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.720 that it goes from oh no, it's a nice great 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.200 it's still more of this and now he's off pupping. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:29.640 And I know they can see me on the radio, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:34.920 but I'm using a hand as it's slow diagonal, UM 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.880 pup and getting off of it is one little step. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.680 Now it's a case. I think what pup means more 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.359 than anything for Cam is they're sure that he's going 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.560 to make it back sometime in that first six weeks, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.200 probably the earlier part of it, maybe before that. But 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.440 that's why you haven't seen Markis come off of it, 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.560 because with Marquise you keep him on pup and once 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.480 you get and when you put a guy on pup, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.640 he is out for the first six weeks of the season. People, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.200 it's the season, Yes, that's right, start the season. So 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.320 it tells me that that Cam is ahead of Marquise 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.240 on that point, ready to do some individual but individual 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.520 does not mean one on one pass rush. Individual does 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.080 not mean putting your um leg in the ground and 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.920 taking pressure on it from another human being. That will 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.920 be the next step and we'll see when he's ready 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.080 for that. Um Leon seriously, on the practice field this 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.960 week we were talking about I think it was the 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.479 first day for Cam back out there. We're talking about 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.520 what does it take when when is he really going 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.040 to know Leon and act? He said, the first big 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.080 bull rush against an opponent, whether it's on the practice 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.000 field or on a game, that is the most exertion 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.920 you'll have on on that knee. There might be some 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.360 side to side you're taking, you know, pass rushing told it, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.240 but when you gotta hold it, you gotta anchor in 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.839 against the bull rush. That's when he'll really know. And 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.200 it's more above the shoulders than it is below and 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.760 in the knee. Well at this point of I mean 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.120 you're not at this point of the A C L 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.520 process and the knee percent of it is above the shoulders. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.440 It will be the way with Marquise when they start 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.279 to trust it. When Cam is willing to put his 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.520 leg in the ground and tested against said another human being. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.440 That takes a confidence to do it without thinking about it. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.800 And that's the key. It's it's harder for skill guys 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.080 to do that because you're forced into it. On the 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.440 offensive line, it's really hard for receivers or running backs 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.880 to trust that cut the way they were cutting when 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:37.880 they were fourteen years old, um meaning just instinctive. Usually 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.480 offensive lineman, quarterbacks and even defensive lineman can return from 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.560 this injury quicker than a skill position player. War's happy 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.800 hour plenty to come, Jimmy luck coming up and just 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.320 a little bit. David spannerio, Philadelphia Eagles dot Com. That's 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.840 a little bit later at the bottom of the hour. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.120 There's been a lot of talk this week about the 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.880 philosophy for Doug Marone changing. We've talked about it on 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.520 all our shows. I know you guys talked about it 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.720 this morning on Drive Time. Uh, more reps for the 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.160 ones in practice during training camp, so you don't have 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.120 to play them during the game. And he explained it yesterday, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.240 Doug Marone, did you know you're only gonna get ten 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.160 to twenty reps in these first two preseason games if 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.200 you're a starter, Ten in the first game, twenty in 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.560 the second game, thirty plus in the in the third game. Ideally, 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.560 so you're you got a day off in the hotel 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.080 before you get twenty reps in a game, and you 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.080 got a day off after, and then you're back slowly 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.760 the day after that. I mean that that's a lot 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.760 of downtime for guys that you want to get activity 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.840 on the practice field, so they give them more reps 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.080 in a controlled situation on a practice field. That's the 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.120 the philosophy change. I guess something you know in the 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:46.920 past and say let's get the guys out there see 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.440 the offense in a game situation and then get them 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.800 out and healthy. But the more reps you can get 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.200 on a practice field thing, obviously the better for a 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.320 new offense trying to put things together. I've always wondered, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:01.640 I shouldn't say always sense about two thousand four or five, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:03.839 and maybe forgetting the year, but I remember when I 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:09.320 was covering the Colts in the fourth preseason game, all 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:10.440 of a sudden you looked at there and there were 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.800 there were no starters, which wasn't always the case. There 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.000 was a time, all the time I was covering the 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.360 jag Wars in the nineties, first few years that that 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.160 first team offence, we go and played about two series 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:20.720 in the fourth quarter. All of a sudden they didn't 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.040 do that, and boy, the next year, nobody was doing 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:25.320 They weren't the first team to do it, but all 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.920 of a sudden, everybody followed suit. Um. Since then, I've 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:33.600 always wondered why teams do it in the in preseason 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.360 week one, meaning why teams play their guys for eight 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:41.199 snaps or for for ten snaps. I always wondered if 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.760 that wasn't just sort of sticking with what they had 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.280 done for the sake of of doing it, because I 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.520 always wondered what good eight snaps did or ten snaps? 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.600 Are you really getting enough out of it to risk 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.040 I had I hadn't really thought about what Doug mentioned, 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.280 the wear and tear on the body to take the 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.520 real hi of a game. That's why they need that 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.120 next day off. You want to rest and recover, and 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.480 and you don't practice day after a game. So what 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.720 Doug saying makes perfect sense to me as far as that. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.680 I do wonder a little bit if you get twenty 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.160 in the second game and thirty in that preseason rehearsal. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.560 To me, that feels like the right number. And I 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.520 do wonder if Doug would have gone with a few 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:31.000 more starters this year in this game, if there weren't 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.040 so many minor injuries just sort of lingering around right now. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.360 We'll probably never know that. But uh, one thing to 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.120 remember about the injuries that are going on right now. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.800 And I get that Doug is very much a worry 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.719 award on this front. Um, it's his nature the head 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.240 coach is what he does. But what you don't know 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.320 Andrew Norwell, for example, UM, a few guys who missed 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:58.000 time this week, would they in preseason? Especially the way 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.160 Doug's approaching it, They're gonna hold guys out if it's anything. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.760 So what we don't know is would these guys be 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.760 able to play? How serious are these things that are 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.880 that you guys are being held out for Andrew no 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.640 Ro for example, on the field this week, but it 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.079 wouldn't do anything. You sort of get the idea that 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.559 if it was a game week, Uh, how much is 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.360 Norwell going to gain from two reps? They aren't really 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.679 live stuff. Why risk if it's a calf. I don't 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.280 even know what it is with him, But if it's 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.240 soft tissue, why risk him tweaking that if you can 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.120 have him red for September eight. Another point on this, 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.040 Pete Prisco you've heard of him, was on our show 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.920 Monday on the Jaguar's Happy Hour, as he always is, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.680 and he said he talked to Philip Rivers. Obviously Philip 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.400 Rivers of different birdies be in the league for a 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.199 long time, Uh been at it at a high level. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.520 He said that Philip Rivers told him that he got 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.719 forty passes in one of the practices against another team 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.760 they were practiced him two weeks ago. Forty throws in 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.880 a practice and in a game you might get two 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.760 or three, so to to up the vers a practice, 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.000 it's suation and not even worry about the football game, 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.920 and that's probably the better mass for a guy like that. Well, 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:11.000 as the league goes more to passing in precision um. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.160 Tackling has been an issue in the league for a 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.319 long long time because you can't practice it very much. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.199 It's why the first couple of weeks of the season, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.199 no matter no matter how much you do in preseason, 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.520 the first couple of weeks of the season, tackling is 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.520 always an issue because they haven't practiced enough. You can't. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.520 It's not worth the risk. So it does make sense 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.080 and Dougs the way he laid it out was exactly 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.720 on board the Philip River set. Nick Foles is getting 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.800 what forty two forty eight reps in a practice, he'd 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.880 get ten if it was live. Now, the tradeoff is 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.400 in practice he's never worried about getting hit, so there 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.080 is a little bit of that. Maybe if he was 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.120 a young quarterback, I might be more concerned about that. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.080 Folds certainly played in the NFL long enough that it 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.679 won't overwhelm him when he's getting hit. He's He's been 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.160 through that. So with this team, with this quarterback, if 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.439 they're getting forty eight reps for Chris Conley, d D 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.839 Westbrook and those guys would be on the same page 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.640 and know what the other guys doing. Um, you know, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.240 I don't. As Doug said, this is an ideal. This 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.520 isn't what he wants to do philosophically is a head coach. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.960 But it's the way the league is right now, and 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.920 it's if we can get these guys healthy, that reward 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.040 is worth the risk of maybe not getting those live 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.480 reps where you're getting hit. It's not ideal, but he's 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.000 doing the best he can to find the right formula. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.040 Let's give this team to the starting line of the season. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.600 I mean that, you know, as healthy as he can 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.719 on opening day against Kansas City. We've got a lot 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.960 to get to in the program. Jimmy Luck right around 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.520 the corner. Dave Spadero from Philadelphia Eagles dot Com at 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.200 the bottom of the hour, Are you doo low enough 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.240 to represent the Jacks in London? Find out on the 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.000 Jaguars Global Ambassador contests. 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This will be your regular spot the 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.880 before Sunday game. Tomorrow is a Thursday game, obviously, but 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.880 it worked out today, it worked out this last week 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.280 was Baltimore is weird. You know, it's kind of weird. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.320 You're about the only person who doesn't benefit from them 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.000 resting stars because you still gotta dress everybody anywhere. I 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.440 still have to get dressed, you know, not except for 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.320 the guys who don't play. You don't wash the uniforms. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.120 I guess yeah, because it was funny, like talking with 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.880 Tyler Wolf. This isn't head coach. He gives me a 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:05.840 list these guys are not dressing these guys, and I'm like, 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.440 I don't care who's playing. They're getting dressed. So I 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.440 still got to get him dressed. It's still have to 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.080 and that that's an organizational philosophy, I guess right. Some 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.919 other teams might not have the guys even dressed, right, 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.560 that's right. So I mean it tells me, okay, if 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.600 this guy is not playing a bunch of the line, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:22.879 maybe I need to have more hot dogs in the 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.600 quimen room at half time for more sunflower seeds on 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.680 the side of You know, have you reached the point 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.880 yet where even the new guys you sort of know 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.120 what they want in pads, what they want to take 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.200 out with him? Where is that always a learning process 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.400 with younger guys? It's I mean, yeah, everybody's a little 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.080 bit different. Um. Last week was a little bit of 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.720 a learning experience with some of the guys. But we 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.640 try to get out in front of it and ask them, hey, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.840 what do you want to wear this? That? And then 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.400 they wear and you go, no, you're not wearing that 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.480 just because well a lot of guys the socks still 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.560 messes him up with the teal on there. I never 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.120 thought it would be that hard to say it goes 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.120 white teal than black, but now is it's still a case. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.560 I mean, there's certain rules of what they have to wear. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.800 Do some guys still overpad early in their career or 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.320 is it? Um? You get a few guys like, oh, hey, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:12.720 you know I don't have to wear the hip pads 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.639 in the butt pad, right, And it's like, well, no, 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.760 you don't have to. You can, um, we have to 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.480 wear you do you just do have to wear thought 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.600 pads and eatpads and covered. When I was with the Colts, 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.680 I covered Dallas Clark. We worked for the Colts and 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.680 we had a had a picture at one point that 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:30.720 he was signing one day, not for me, but for 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.280 somebody else, and it was his rookie year and he 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.359 had pads here, in pads here, in pass here. Just 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.640 like two years later he was wearing nothing. He said, Yeah, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.679 it was ridiculous at that point. But a lot of 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.000 guys do earlier. And they they have in crow bounce 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.240 of paths and they figure out that it's constricted where 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.600 they they just don't like it. So I know that 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.000 changes for guys. Yeah, and some guys, you know, as 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.920 things come out, you know, better technology or whatever, and 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.000 you know, hey, we'll go to the super lighttop pad. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.520 Not that half an ounce makes that much of a difference. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:01.600 I wouldn't evally form. We'll get to the uniform unveiling 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.119 coming up. We'll do this each and every week with 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.720 Jimmy Luck, head equipment manager, what the Jaguars will wear, 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.280 will debut it right here. I gotta ask you about 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.280 the Antonio Brown situation in Oakland. As an equipment manager, 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:16.600 it's a every team has to abide by the helmet 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.639 rules that change from time to time. They cycle some 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.640 helmets through and it sounds like his was just so 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.360 old that it's not on the list anymore, right, Yeah, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.080 pretty much. And if you look at it from the 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.320 standpoint that a car you bought in two thousand and 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.879 eight didn't have as many bells and whistles and is 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.520 not as safe as a car built, you know, last year. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.760 So it's kind of the same thing with helmets. I mean, 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.439 you know, things get better, padding gets better, um, you 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.760 know it. It We the NFL, you know, pays a 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.520 lot of money to have bio Core, a company that 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.480 we've partnered with that test helmets, and they put out 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.360 a list every year, a chart you know that hangs 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.120 in the equipment room that says this is where all 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.360 these helmets kind of rank. And you know, the they're 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.640 all safe because they're NXI certified, but this one test 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.080 better in the lab than this one. Um, does it 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.560 test better on the field, that's up to some debate 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.920 whether you ask the manufacturers. But in the lab these 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:09.879 tests better. These are you know, help protect you a 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.200 little bit more, And it's really just kind of common sense. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.159 They're um. But as an equipment guy, you know, if 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.480 you we've gone through this kind of a couple of 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.560 times where a big range of helmets come out, you're like, oh, 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:21.880 a bunch of new ones. You want to get guys 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.199 in the new ones are safer and the guy goes, now, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:25.800 I've been wearing this my whole career. I've never had 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.520 a concussion. And then if I put that helmet, new 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.600 helmet on, even he gets one. Now I feel bad, 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.160 But I mean, that's you made step off the curb 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:35.760