1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Surveillance. The markets are very dysfunctional here, 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: and let's basically due to all this enormous corporate bond issuance. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: We're getting even more confirmation at the global economy matters 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: more and more to the Fed, more than it ever has. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: When you hold down rates, when you reduce rates by quie, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: whatever it is you're doing in that direction, you're drawing 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: capital into the markets, and that's a good thing. Bloomberg 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Surveillance your link to the world of economics, finance, and 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: investment on Bloomberg Radio. Good morning everyone, Bloomberg Surveillance, Michael 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: McKee and Tom Keenan. Is a perfect day in New 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: York right now, though, Michael, let's get you know, I mean, 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: bring in bringing Rob here, because what's so great about 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Rob in December is the lack of hysteria, and then 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: in January there's a little more, and Rob gets exhausted 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: by March. So do you think, Rob, what do you think, Michael, 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: what's the level that you could be? Sunday is the 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: first day of spring and Rob Carolin has to come 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: on and tell everybody it's going to snow. Um, you know, 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure that doesn't make you particularly popular. No, and 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: it's not doesn't mean I like doing it either. I 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: mean I gotta shovel my driveway to guys, So if 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: I don't have to do it, that's a positive. And 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: you know, looking at the date of this morning, I 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 1: can tell you that the models have started to shift 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: further east with the system. The U S model has 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: been the most consistent saying this is a light with 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: most moderate storm for the Tri State area in Boston. 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: The European went crazy on Wednesday and now it's backing 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: away from that heavy snowfall forecast more towards a lighter 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: or moderate snowfall. So that's good news. The trend is 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: our friend. It's in the right direction. But we think 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: if the storm does develop as the models have, that 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: snow is going to arrive in the Tri State area 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: early Sunday morning, right around sunrise, it'll end early Monday morning. 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: Three to six inches of a slushy snow could fall Boston. 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: It develops in the afternoon on Sunday and ends Monday morning. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Right now, Boston could end up with as much as 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: four to eight inches, but again the numbers right now 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: are fluid. If the models continue in their trend of 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: shifting further eastern. We look Rob carollin, thank you very much. Well, 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: keep an eye on the story. Just the fact, I 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: don't care if it's only three inches. It's still supposed 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: to be spring, not winter. When you grow up in 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: the tundra of the north. This is what's called normal. 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: I've seen it's snow in May up in the scene. 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Can doesn't mean it exactly, I guess that would be 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: one way of putting it. It is nine o'clock. 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That's enough 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: on for and Exchange our equity report before we go 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: to an important re guard comment. What do you have 60 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: divid Wilson, Well, let's talk about Bank of America. To start, 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: These shares are up one and a half percent in 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: early trading. The bank will buy back as much as 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: eight hundred million dollars in stock to off set act 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: when he grants to executives. That's on top of four 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: billion dollars in repurchases that Bank of America announced a 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: year ago. Now the bank is joining JP Morgan Chase 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: and Capital One Financial in expanding buyback programs. On the 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: deal front, Star Wars Hotels and Resorts up four and 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: a half percent. Company agreed to takeover by China's on 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Bang Insurance for seventy eight dollars a share or thirteen 71 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: point one billion dollars. The prices two dollars a share 72 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: higher than a Bang's initial bid, which was disclosed on Monday. 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Star Wars board found the offer superior to an earlier 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: proposal from Marriott International. Columbia Pipeline Group the most active 75 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: stock and early trading up six and a half percent. 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: The natural gas pipeline on Them agreed to a ten 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: point two billion dollar takeover from trans Canada. The deal 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: followed the rejection of Kuran's Canada's proposed Keystone Xcel pipeline 79 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: by President Barack Obama in November, and Trans Canada shares 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: down three and a half percent in US trading. Couple 81 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: more earnings, A Delbe Systems up seven percent, the graphics 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: software maker's fiscal first quarter earnings and revenue beating alas 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: average estimates of the Bloomberg survey. ALB benefited from growing 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: demand for its Internet based services, and Tiffany basically a 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: little change at this point. The luxury jewelry retailer said 86 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: fiscal first quarter earnings per share may drop at least 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: fifteen percent. Is a sluggish global economy, herd sales and 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: so I expected a seven percent decline on average. And 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: David Wilson thanks so much. I want to bring in 90 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: this uh sound from Christine Legarde. This really sets up 91 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: Phil Verliger on global oil very well. Leguard, as I 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: am a managing director. This is in Ho Chi Min 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: City speaking with our Bloomberg Vietnam Bureau chief K one. 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: Here is Madame Lego. What I think I can tell 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: you is that if we had not had those negative rates, 96 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: we would be in a much worse place today with 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: inflation probably lower than where it is, with growth probably 98 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: lower than where we have it. So it's only count 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: of factuals, of course, but it was a good thing 100 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: to actually implement those negative rates. And Madame m Guarde 101 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: in Vietnam with our Bloomberg Vietnam Bureau Chief Phil Verligher 102 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: listened carefully. He's heard this before from policymakers, and I 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: love Phil the idea of the counter factual. The ultimate 104 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: counter factual is oil went from a hundred to forty. 105 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: What would have happened if that hadn't occurred, Well, if 106 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: oil hadn't gone uh to forty one, we would still 107 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: be drilling, uh, wells in production would be high, fire 108 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: inventories would be much higher. We'd be swimming in it. Uh. 109 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: The economy would be somewhat slower, although the impact is 110 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: less than we used to say, because so many people 111 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: would still have jobs in North Dakota, Texas, uh and 112 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: in Europe making manufacturing goods for people people in Asia. 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: But what we would be doing is developing this incredible 114 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: surplus that someday had to be consumed and eventually, Tom, 115 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: we'll be using your bathtup to store oil. It's just yeah, Uh, 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: we let prices stay high much too long. Uh and uh, 117 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 1: and it's created a bubble, and it created a bubbles burst. 118 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a fascinating story in 119 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal today. Maybe the surplus isn't as 120 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: big as we think it is. Uh. They suggest that 121 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: there's eight hundred thousand barrels UH of oil missing because 122 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: the i e. A. Estimates how much oil is going 123 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: to be produced, and then they actually add up the 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: oil that is in storage and in transit. It doesn't 125 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: come anywhere near what they thought was going to be produced. 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: So maybe we aren't producing as much. Well that's a 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: great wine. And Andy Hall is and who has asked 128 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: him back to keep sending these emails around pushing this point. 129 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: My question is, I look at the market man, why 130 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: are people renting ships? I mean last week this week 131 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: Glencore reported chartering a ship that will hold about two 132 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: and a half million barrels of oil. Now, the interesting 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: thing is the number I've been using as a buck 134 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: fifty amongst the store of the oil. They've charted it 135 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: for two years for fifty cents of barrel uh. The 136 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: U S numbers showed this high level of inventories and 137 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: and E I A has got problems. But we are 138 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: approaching the record level of inventories previously set in nineteen 139 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine comments before you were born, and I was born, 140 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: And it was set when everybody was trying to produce 141 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: the oil under their ground, before the neighbor did. We 142 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: didn't have the rule of capture. We are literally a 143 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: hundred million, maybe two hundred million barrels above in the 144 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: US normal range and the rest of the world inventories 145 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: are high. That the tanks are full in Amsterdam where 146 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: they measure them. So there may be some discrepancy. There's 147 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: always some discrepancy. But and you know, if you if 148 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: you want to be a barrel accountant, you're gonna lose. 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: The only way to pay a understand this is to 150 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: look at the market and what the market is saying. 151 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: And the market is in contango, deep contango. It's been 152 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: in deep contango for quite a while. People are storing 153 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: oil everywhere and so uh, you know, the market tells 154 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: me that the oil is there. Well, where we were 155 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: over forty dollars now yesterday at one point West Texas 156 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: was going for more than than brand Uh. How much 157 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: farther do we go. You know, this is one of 158 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: the things I've been writing is is that this is 159 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: a bubble but going to be punctuated with price increases. Yeah, 160 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: this is like the housing crisis. The we had this 161 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: huge drop in in housing activity after the two thousand 162 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: nine San Francisco prices went down, Detroit prices went down. 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Some prices come back up, and speculators will push prices 164 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: back up. There's a lot of hot money coming in 165 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: pushing prices up, creating the opportunity to hedge more oil 166 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: so that we'll produce more oil later this year and 167 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: next year, saving some bankruptcies of prudent firms. But you 168 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: know it's gonna fluctuate, and it's it will hold up 169 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: to forty until OPEC or this meeting of producers OPEC 170 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: plus others gets done in April. But they have the meeting. 171 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Does it accomplish anything? No, But does it change prices? 172 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: Even if it doesn't accomplish it, it doesn't attain prices temporarily, 173 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: they'll go up, then they'll go back down still never 174 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: enough time. We're gonna have to have you back soon 175 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: because the price of oil suddenly getting back into the news. 176 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: Is West Texas crushes the forty dollar barrier. Now a 177 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: forty dollars and ninety one says heading for forty one. 178 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: We we have been as high as forty one twenty 179 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: in the electronic trading session. We'll see if we can 180 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: get over that number. It's almost two percent increase for 181 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: both West Texas and Brent today, Tom, Brent for all 182 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: dollar dynamic, right, and I mean it's all currency related. Well, yes, 183 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: except that the d X Y dollar index is a 184 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: little stronger today, not completely but mostly mostly, and it's 185 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: feeding into equities, you know, folks. All I know is 186 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: there's consensus. As we see consents I is that the 187 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: right word. We see consents I hear, and they always 188 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 1: get run. Consents I always get destroyed. 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