Speaker 1: There isn't a Walleye on this planet that's got twenty
Speaker 1: to twenty five minutes of fighting it. You know how
Speaker 1: saying that was that sharp could have landed in the
Speaker 1: boat and two of your buddies could have been freaking killed. Man.
Speaker 1: There's a few times are out that deal where he
Speaker 1: just goes after brie cheese. I get your clients sucked,
Speaker 1: but leave the bris out of this man. Secondly, while
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean they kind of sucked. Good morning,
Speaker 1: degenerate anglers, and welcome to Ben the Fishing podcast that
Speaker 1: goes directly to the closest drive through Dakari shack after
Speaker 1: picking up its rental car at the New Orleans Airport.
Speaker 1: I'm Joe Surmeli and joining me today is my good
Speaker 1: friend from the land of drive through Dachori Shacks, Jared Serenier.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Brother? Alright, bro, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 1: But lo wait, we're not drinking dacriies. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have it. I'm gonna have the bear eyes
Speaker 1: damn for when you get here. Waa that's what No dacories?
Speaker 1: I yeah, and that's probably a lot cheaper to those
Speaker 1: dacies are are pretty spendy. H allegedly right, allegedly, Jared
Speaker 1: has not been on this show before, though your voice
Speaker 1: does bear a striking resemblance to down the Road Darren
Speaker 1: from South Louisiana who occasionally does uh fishing reports for
Speaker 1: us from your region. You hip to that guy? You
Speaker 1: ever met that guy? Yeah? Man, I crossed paths with
Speaker 1: Darren every once in a while. Dude, it's like, I'll
Speaker 1: be like pumping, you know, trying to get pumping gas
Speaker 1: in my truck, and Darren comes up to me like
Speaker 1: he rocking about a few dollars. You know, Man, you
Speaker 1: sound just like him. That's a really good Yeah. He's
Speaker 1: a good dude. He's just you know, made a few
Speaker 1: questionable choices in his life. But right on, right on,
Speaker 1: well it is. It is awesome to have you here, man,
Speaker 1: and I you know how much I love the South
Speaker 1: and Louisiana in particular. It's been it's been just way
Speaker 1: too long since I've been down there. But in case
Speaker 1: any of you listeners haven't been down there, I wasn't
Speaker 1: kidding about the Dacari shacks. I'm not. I'm not claiming
Speaker 1: South Louisiana is the only place that has them, but
Speaker 1: it's the only place I've been too. There's there's practically
Speaker 1: one on on any given corner. And these are drive
Speaker 1: through establishments that will serve you an extra large, big
Speaker 1: gulp size cup of icy slushy booze in your vehicle.
Speaker 1: And is there a reason why that's allowed? There? I
Speaker 1: know legally, right, you're not supposed to drink them while
Speaker 1: you're driving, at least the driver isn't. But if that
Speaker 1: existed where I leave, cops would be parked outside just
Speaker 1: waiting for you to take a pull of that mud
Speaker 1: slide dachri, Like, how does that? How is that allowed?
Speaker 1: What's the rule? And look, it's not just dacries. You
Speaker 1: could order a mixed ra al right. Here is the
Speaker 1: technicality that makes it work. It's the straw, the straw.
Speaker 1: So if the paper from the straw is not broken,
Speaker 1: technically you're good. Shoot. Once the straw goes in and
Speaker 1: it's like all right now I'm ready to drink, that's
Speaker 1: when the cop could be like, got you. But as
Speaker 1: long as the straw is not learned something today we
Speaker 1: learn how to get away with this and what the
Speaker 1: rules are, that's great, man, But Anyway, So Jared and
Speaker 1: I we go way back, and I want to tell
Speaker 1: a story about when we first met because it's sort
Speaker 1: of gonna play into a little theme I've got going
Speaker 1: on today about fishing with people that don't appreciate good fishing.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, I want to tell everyone, well,
Speaker 1: you've got going on right. So you're a producer, videographer,
Speaker 1: a man of many media talents that does work for
Speaker 1: a lot of people. You've even rubbed elbows if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken with old caw Ryan Callahan. Isn't that right?
Speaker 1: You guys did something together. Yeah. Ryan came down last year,
Speaker 1: last September, the end of September. Um. He we we
Speaker 1: were introduced to each other through a mutual friend Land,
Speaker 1: Tawny and Montage. Sure, and I think that Ryan knew
Speaker 1: that Land had spent a good bit of time down here. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Land and I were buddies from from when he
Speaker 1: did spend time down here. So he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Louisiana, who don't need to talk to you.
Speaker 1: And he was like so and so so and so
Speaker 1: and called Serena and uh he called me up and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I really appreciate because I felt
Speaker 1: like up to that point, media kind of was overlooking
Speaker 1: the South. Sure, yeah, and I'm not saying that's right
Speaker 1: or wrong, but I felt like, kind of I really
Speaker 1: appreciated it. When he called, I was like, dude, appreciate it. Um.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, let's go on a teal
Speaker 1: hunt public land at Venice. I'm like, okay, start putting
Speaker 1: the pieces of place for that. But the problem you
Speaker 1: have to have you know, we were gonna hunt on
Speaker 1: a federal refuge, so you have to have that signed
Speaker 1: off by the refuge manager. And it was just it
Speaker 1: was becoming a lot of headache to get all the
Speaker 1: paperwork done on that. So I was like, dude, let's
Speaker 1: just go. Let's go on the holl Count. Like, you
Speaker 1: know what, the tides were high from all the tropical
Speaker 1: stores were having. When the tides are high, the feral
Speaker 1: halls all kind of bunch up in one higher area.
Speaker 1: So so let's go on holl Count. We did, had
Speaker 1: a great hunt, good time, made some bood in, and
Speaker 1: I got to see how hard those guys work. He
Speaker 1: came down with Tye and Garrett, the videographers, and those
Speaker 1: dudes work man like they even send up to sundown. Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny you bring up that you guys did did
Speaker 1: a hog hunt because you also have your your own
Speaker 1: channel and brand now called Outside the Levies that focuses
Speaker 1: on all kinds of outdoor pursuits and cooking in your region,
Speaker 1: and and you hunt and fish of course, but I
Speaker 1: also noticed like you highlight um like local salt of
Speaker 1: the Earth commercial fishing, crabbing operations. So you're like, you
Speaker 1: really strive to capture the entirety of the outdoors in
Speaker 1: your region. Yeah. So I started that channel a year
Speaker 1: ago actually, kind of right after we hunted with Ryan,
Speaker 1: I know, you know, that was kind of the catalyst.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, it's time to it's time
Speaker 1: to jump onto YouTube train. I know, like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a little late to it. But also there's still plenty
Speaker 1: it's still growing, you know what I mean, Like, it
Speaker 1: still has plenty of time. So uh, I started the
Speaker 1: channel and I was like, look, you know, I have
Speaker 1: this resource all around me, the outdoors that we have,
Speaker 1: but also the culture that we have, and that's something
Speaker 1: you don't quite get in other places where the culture
Speaker 1: is so tied to it. So I felt like that
Speaker 1: was my asset that I was bringing too the YouTube table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and what I can tell you listening is that,
Speaker 1: like what Jared's not doing, it's not like your your
Speaker 1: standard YouTuber deal. Like you're you're a professional. You know
Speaker 1: how to find a good story, shoot it and at
Speaker 1: it with style and flow, um and and how to
Speaker 1: how to talk to interesting people. And you know, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, like in the world of of go pros,
Speaker 1: strapped heads all the time, it's really refreshing. Man, you're
Speaker 1: making really cool stuff. I appreciate that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not you know, I consider the go pro head guys
Speaker 1: and myself all in the same We're in the same
Speaker 1: same deal, you know, like where the YouTube community. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying one's better than the other. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I had to I had to create
Speaker 1: the videos saying it that's all good, but no, I
Speaker 1: had to create the kind of videos that I want
Speaker 1: to watch, right using you know, the way I used
Speaker 1: to produce outdoor television and then kind of mixing in
Speaker 1: the YouTube style. We do do some go pro stuff.
Speaker 1: We do, you know, have some music in there and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So it's it's been awesome, right, right, Well,
Speaker 1: it's great stuff, and so I gotta I want to
Speaker 1: tell this story. Um. So, the first time we ever met,
Speaker 1: you were actually a hired gun. You were a videographer
Speaker 1: working for the National Wildlife Federation, and I was in
Speaker 1: town for a work off site meeting. And the fishing
Speaker 1: for the first few days of this trip had been very,
Speaker 1: very slow, and uh, because it was a work off
Speaker 1: site meeting, as it tends to go, the bosses made
Speaker 1: the boat pairings right, and they tried to stick like
Speaker 1: less outdoorsy people with legit outdoorsy people. And on the
Speaker 1: third day, you and me, uh and one of these
Speaker 1: less outdoorsy people who were not gonna we're not gonna
Speaker 1: drag anybody's name through the mud, right, doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: But we all ended up on a boat together. And
Speaker 1: the fishing, as I recall, was equally slow for most
Speaker 1: of that day until about four forty five pm, right,
Speaker 1: and then the floodgates just open, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden there were red fish chowing everywhere, just crushing top water.
Speaker 1: You remember this, Yes, I do, I do, Okay, okay, good,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I remember. Well, it's funny because it's funny
Speaker 1: you say that not too long ago, I'll still have
Speaker 1: the raw footage and I don't think so we'll have
Speaker 1: to get we'll have to separately get together and look
Speaker 1: at Yes, I'd love to see it right so, because
Speaker 1: I and I remember you being pumped because after all
Speaker 1: these days of chasing people around cameras, like you finally
Speaker 1: had something to shoot, like there was action, there was
Speaker 1: something going on um. But all the boats were told
Speaker 1: to be back at the lodge by like five fifteen
Speaker 1: or something for a power point presentation. Ironically, now that
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, that I've leave was being given by
Speaker 1: land Tawny. I believe he was on this ship. It
Speaker 1: was his power point. And the kid they stuck us
Speaker 1: with was losing his ship, like he was just like
Speaker 1: guys that they said to be back at five fifteen
Speaker 1: and and and and for a while, you, me and
Speaker 1: the guy just completely ignored this kid, like I wasn't
Speaker 1: paying attention to any of it. I'm almost positive the
Speaker 1: god that for that was Ross Montet and it was Yes,
Speaker 1: Ross is a killer like the fit walks, crawl, swims, flies,
Speaker 1: it's in danger from Ross. So probably he had all
Speaker 1: that pent up aggression I was getting. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I know the power point was important, but we'll get there.
Speaker 1: We'll get their bridge version afterwards over because yeah, these
Speaker 1: reds are the challenge everywhere. And he's not even casting
Speaker 1: because he's so distraught over missing a power point. And
Speaker 1: eventually I couldn't take it anymore and was just like, dude,
Speaker 1: shut the up and fish, like, we're not leaving this
Speaker 1: to go watch any power were point, Like this is
Speaker 1: what we've been waiting for all week. And and I
Speaker 1: was wondering what you already confirmed you you had this
Speaker 1: exchange on video. It did not make the final cut
Speaker 1: of what you were putting together for n WF, but
Speaker 1: I was pretty sure you were rolling. I would love
Speaker 1: to see that. Okay, I'm gonna check the row. I
Speaker 1: got it well, I confirmed it the other day. It
Speaker 1: well unearth it. But in the meantime, tying right in
Speaker 1: um with being presented with stellar fishing and and sort
Speaker 1: of not even recognizing it. We've got one hell of
Speaker 1: a smooth Move segment for you guys this week. Remember,
Speaker 1: Smooth Moves is where we let guides and captain's vent
Speaker 1: about idiotic things their clients have done. Uh, And we're
Speaker 1: leaving the bayou just for just for a little bit
Speaker 1: and jogging west to San Diego to meet back up
Speaker 1: with our old buddy, Captain Conway Bowman. Why joining us
Speaker 1: again from southern California, My buddy, Conway Bowman? How goes it? Man?
Speaker 1: Good to see you again. What's up? Brother? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great? I'm great. So you are a pioneer fly
Speaker 1: fishing for macOS on the West coast. But you have
Speaker 1: guided for so many things in so many places. What
Speaker 1: are the other things you guided for? Oh? Man, um, trout, cart, bass,
Speaker 1: a large amount bass um. I've done a little bit
Speaker 1: of steelhead guiding, more more hosting. But because I've done it,
Speaker 1: I've hosted trips to steelhead waters, permit, tarpin, bone fish.
Speaker 1: Because I've traveled so much, I've gotten really familiar with
Speaker 1: a lot of different fish. So what I do is
Speaker 1: when I host trips, I end up kind of guiding
Speaker 1: and and I love it. I love guiding. I like
Speaker 1: watching people be successful at making that cast and hooking,
Speaker 1: whether it's their first permit, bone fish, steelhead, whatever. I
Speaker 1: mean that that really gets me pumped up. So well,
Speaker 1: I'm pumped up because you've been at this for so
Speaker 1: many years, and like you just said, you've done so
Speaker 1: many different things that I'm really curious to hear, like
Speaker 1: where we're getting a smooth move from? Like what facet
Speaker 1: of what Conway Bowman does? Are we gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: hear a smooth move story from? Oh? So you want
Speaker 1: a story right now? I want the smoothest one you got, man. Okay.
Speaker 1: So um, when people fly fish for mako sharks, and
Speaker 1: it always comes back to makoes because there's such a
Speaker 1: dynamic fish and they jump in there, they're big. So Um.
Speaker 1: I had a group come on my boat I don't know,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and none of them had
Speaker 1: had ever fly, none of them had ever fished. They
Speaker 1: had they had bid on a trip that I had
Speaker 1: given away through some auction. So they show up three guys.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a guide thing too. You gotta be
Speaker 1: careful with. I know a lot of guys who donate trips,
Speaker 1: but then you have no control over who it is,
Speaker 1: Like they're not regular client. You have no idea who
Speaker 1: you're getting with the donated trip. Right, No, right, guys
Speaker 1: show up and they're walking down walking to my boat.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, you're kidding me. I mean
Speaker 1: members only jacket. It's kind of sweet. I mean, not
Speaker 1: for fishing, but I appreciate the jacket. It's just just whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean. It was. You know, they had they had
Speaker 1: the classic loafers on on with the taskles. It was like,
Speaker 1: oh no. So they get on the boat. Right when
Speaker 1: they get on the boat, they say, hey, capt and
Speaker 1: get a cooler. I said, yeah, here's my cooler. And
Speaker 1: they put in some bris and they put in a
Speaker 1: bottle of shard and I'm like, ship, here we go.
Speaker 1: And so on the way out, I'm like, you guys,
Speaker 1: don't you fishing? No, not really. We just thought it'd
Speaker 1: be cool to go see a shark. I'm like, okay, right,
Speaker 1: so we're motoring out. The one guy says, so, Capta,
Speaker 1: and you think we're going to see a shark today.
Speaker 1: I said there's a good chance. Well, how good? I
Speaker 1: guess it. You know, I don't know. I'm seeing them,
Speaker 1: you know, between eighty and you know, a hundred pounds. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, we're gonna see a bigger one. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we might how big? I said, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We might see one five. He's like, whoa really, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that'd be cool. I'm like, okay. So we get out
Speaker 1: there and we're drifting. So let's say I think I
Speaker 1: set my slick at ten o'clock and at two o'clock
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen anything. These guys are One guy's throwing
Speaker 1: up over the side. The other guy's kind of he'd
Speaker 1: been hitting that bottle of chardonnay, so he was kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, not really stumbling around, but he was a
Speaker 1: little bit gassed. And you know, they had the brie out,
Speaker 1: you know, putting it on French bread, and they're sitting
Speaker 1: there and you know, they're talking. They were talking one
Speaker 1: of their bullshit. They were talking, and it was really entertaining. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I said, hey, guys, we're getting into his zone
Speaker 1: right now, where I've been seeing a lot of big makos,
Speaker 1: a lot of big ones. Oh really, Captain, Oh god,
Speaker 1: that'd be great to see a big one. We haven't
Speaker 1: seen one all day. Like okay, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: a wise ass. I'm like okay. And so I'm I'm
Speaker 1: standing on the on the stern of the boat and
Speaker 1: I'm looking out in the slick and I'm going, man,
Speaker 1: if any size mako shows up, these guys couldn't handle
Speaker 1: it because we had gone through the casting. These guys
Speaker 1: couldn't cast my feet. Dear Lord, please let a twenty
Speaker 1: pound mako show up and let me get back to
Speaker 1: the dog. So I'm standing there, so I look up.
Speaker 1: The one guy's hanging over the rail throwing up. The
Speaker 1: other guy's passed out on the on the on the deck,
Speaker 1: and the other guy's just sitting there, you know, with
Speaker 1: his arms crossed, looking out. And I looked down and
Speaker 1: I went, oh my god, I see this gigantic mako
Speaker 1: come right under the boat. I mean, went from from
Speaker 1: the stern right to the porch side and and heading
Speaker 1: out towards about I'm like, holy crap. This thing was
Speaker 1: like seven pounds. I'm like, oh my god. So I go, okay,
Speaker 1: who's who? Who's right? And we've got a big, big
Speaker 1: mako here? And the guy's like what and and he
Speaker 1: looks over the side and he didn't see it because
Speaker 1: the mako had kind of sunk out, And I like,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. So I've got my teaser. Run,
Speaker 1: I throw it out, through it out and throwing it
Speaker 1: and I throw it way way out and I'm reeling
Speaker 1: it up, and all of a sudden, the mako pops
Speaker 1: it behind the teaser and it starts chasing teaser in
Speaker 1: and the guy sees the phinnies like Jesus Christ, that
Speaker 1: things huge, and so I tease the mako in. It
Speaker 1: goes under the boat again. It circles around and I
Speaker 1: lose it. I can't see it. So I look, and
Speaker 1: the one guy grabbed one of the fly rods that
Speaker 1: I that we had prepped for the moment, you know,
Speaker 1: when the one when the chart shows up. And I
Speaker 1: told him, do not put that line the water, you know,
Speaker 1: because I didn't know where the fish was. And if
Speaker 1: you have a fly dangling over the side will come
Speaker 1: up and grab it. So I said, don't put the
Speaker 1: fly in the water. So I'm looking for the maker,
Speaker 1: looking for the makeup. There's some heavy glare in the water.
Speaker 1: I'm looking looking, and I look and the flies in
Speaker 1: the water. Because he's kind of looking over the rail,
Speaker 1: you know, looking for the fish. I'm like, get the
Speaker 1: fly out of the water. So he pulls it out
Speaker 1: and I can't. I don't know where the mako is,
Speaker 1: and so I may throw the teaser out. Nothing on
Speaker 1: the tees are my guy? The things split and I
Speaker 1: looked down and the guy is looking for it, and
Speaker 1: once again the flies and the water floating out. I
Speaker 1: go get the fly out of the and right when
Speaker 1: I said that, this maku came up right from under
Speaker 1: the boat and grab the fly. I mean ten ft
Speaker 1: off the rail. I mean right there, a seven pound makeup.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I told the guy don't set the
Speaker 1: and he what did he do? He set the hook.
Speaker 1: He went straight up. I'll go, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: maker shark. It looked like a like a Volkswagen Bust
Speaker 1: doing three sixties on the port side rail. I mean
Speaker 1: ten ft a rail. Whoa. I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And the guy is like whoa, and he's holding the
Speaker 1: rod and I'm like, give me the rod. So I
Speaker 1: run up the rail, grabbed the rod and immediately the
Speaker 1: shark sounds and it pins me to the rail. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going down down. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and so what makeles do? They'll go down and they'll
Speaker 1: they'll jump. You don't know where they're going to jump.
Speaker 1: They can jump. Yeah, they just come up. It's going
Speaker 1: straight down I'm like, oh God, oh God. So now
Speaker 1: it's gotta be pinned to the rail. The rod is
Speaker 1: bent back towards the stern. It's bent back towards the
Speaker 1: starboard corner. And I look back and the two other guys,
Speaker 1: that one guy that was passed out and the other guy,
Speaker 1: they ran back to the starboard corner and they're standing
Speaker 1: right there. I'm like, oh my god. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: back at them, and all of a sudden that the
Speaker 1: maker jumps right there, right off the starboard, I mean,
Speaker 1: right off the corner, and it rockets into the air
Speaker 1: and it goes up twenty and I'm watching it in
Speaker 1: slow motion, a seven pound makeup going twenty ft in
Speaker 1: the air within five ft of these eyes. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's right off the corner. I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And it goes up up, up, up up, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that thing's gonna lean into the boat and crush these guys.
Speaker 1: And it goes It goes up up, up up, and
Speaker 1: it leans out. It landed out, and it took off,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how I got that thing around.
Speaker 1: It went under the outboard and I pulled it around
Speaker 1: on a hand of the rod back and the guy
Speaker 1: go just hold on. So it's running, it's jumping, and
Speaker 1: I get that guy's falling all over his ass. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, get up on the fish. And
Speaker 1: so we fight it from probably i don't know, five
Speaker 1: minutes after these incredible jumps and it broke off. I'm like,
Speaker 1: thank god. So you know, I reel the whole thing
Speaker 1: and the makeup probably peeled off four yards of backing.
Speaker 1: He's insane. So I read all that back in and
Speaker 1: I get it back in. I look at the guy
Speaker 1: and he's sitting on the bow. He's like, holy ship,
Speaker 1: that was insane. I go, you know how saying that was?
Speaker 1: That shark could have landed in the boat and two
Speaker 1: of your buddies could have been freaking killed. Oh so
Speaker 1: the more the moral of that story is, I've realized that,
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to have your ship in one
Speaker 1: sack when you're fishing these big makos because they will
Speaker 1: jump in the boat. So because of that, I'm very,
Speaker 1: very very specific on how I want people to cast
Speaker 1: of those things. You have to make a fort cast sure,
Speaker 1: I can't hook him close, and you have to be
Speaker 1: super careful. There's no margin of air at all. If
Speaker 1: one of those things lands in the boat, you're freaking.
Speaker 1: And it's happened to people before. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a known thing like that. Yes it has. And
Speaker 1: I'm fishing out of a twenty four ft Triton bay boat,
Speaker 1: so my gunnal is very low to the nil. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well dude, I mean that, dude, that's funny. That's an
Speaker 1: epic story. But like my takeaway, it always bothers me
Speaker 1: a little to hear stories like that, because there's so
Speaker 1: many things giant tune of fly fishing for sharks with
Speaker 1: you that like I want to do that I would
Speaker 1: kill to do. And then I hear a story like
Speaker 1: that's the guy that got to go do that and
Speaker 1: have a seven hundred pound mako shark, and like, doesn't
Speaker 1: even have appreciate what just happened. It's that happens, admit,
Speaker 1: I know it. I get people out there that they'll
Speaker 1: catch a three and a pound makeup They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was cool, and they just walk off the dog.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, bro, When I come out there, I'll make
Speaker 1: an eighty foot cast to a seven hundred pound makeup
Speaker 1: and we will dance yes, that would be awesome. Alright, well,
Speaker 1: first things first, man, I don't know. It kind of
Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way. I'm a little bothered by it.
Speaker 1: You watch UFC, you watch UFC at all? Not I've
Speaker 1: been forced to watch it in a few lodges over
Speaker 1: the years, but like of my own accord, no, I
Speaker 1: don't watch. So there's a there's a funny clip, uh
Speaker 1: from a UFC press conference a few years back, and
Speaker 1: it's too heavy weights and I don't think they were
Speaker 1: about to fight. I think they were on the same card.
Speaker 1: And one of the heavy weights who's who's really well accomplished,
Speaker 1: and then one of the ones who was kind of upcoming,
Speaker 1: he's from New Orleans originally, and uh, and they weren't
Speaker 1: even gonna fight on this card. So the more accomplished fighter,
Speaker 1: Daniel calling it was like, you know, and he's talking
Speaker 1: to Derrick Lewis, who was the other fight. He's like, so,
Speaker 1: what's your beef with me? What did I do? We're
Speaker 1: not even fighting. He's like, man, you disrespected that Popeye's
Speaker 1: Chicken apparently called me ahead said something negative about Popeye's.
Speaker 1: So I kind of feel the same way. Listen to
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, man, there's a few times are
Speaker 1: out that deal where he just goes after bree cheese.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I got like, yeah, with your clients,
Speaker 1: but leave debris man. Well, so, since we just heard
Speaker 1: a mako shark story, I am compelled to ask you
Speaker 1: something that I've always wanted to know. Maybe you know
Speaker 1: the answer, maybe not. Right, So, offshore fishing is a
Speaker 1: big deal in southern Louisiana, right, You guys are all
Speaker 1: about tuna and wahoo and swordfish, but some of the
Speaker 1: biggest makos in the country live in the Gulf of Mexico,
Speaker 1: And by and large, I feel like the Louisiana off
Speaker 1: short crowd really wants nothing to do with them, and
Speaker 1: I will I will point out, but I want to say, like,
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing for the sharks, but
Speaker 1: I'm not about killing all these sharks. But you boys
Speaker 1: also like a stock freezer, and and mako meat is
Speaker 1: very tasty. So I never understood why mako fishing wasn't
Speaker 1: more of a thing down there. That's not entirely true.
Speaker 1: There's definitely guys who do it, but you gotta understand
Speaker 1: the economic driver for venice, which is you know, the
Speaker 1: capital of orf shore fishing is the tuna. It's known
Speaker 1: as Tuna Town. So people come here to catch tuna.
Speaker 1: That's what you know. So the captains, that's what their
Speaker 1: trips are geared to. Now I'll can tell you this
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, it's swordfishes is a close
Speaker 1: section shore. So it's not necessarily that they don't target mako,
Speaker 1: because I've seen guys like Trey p K with Voodoo
Speaker 1: charters get some enormous makos. I just you know, I
Speaker 1: think that those other things that are more uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where their business is geared towards. I definitely can
Speaker 1: can say that they know and appreciate the mako fishery.
Speaker 1: It's just that their clients who pay to go with
Speaker 1: them want to catch tuna and swords. Sure, sure, you're
Speaker 1: just not seeing those makos themselves. Probably really enjoy the
Speaker 1: mako and really appreciate it, but they gotta, you know,
Speaker 1: take the folks who are paying to catch what they want. Interesting,
Speaker 1: one of these days I should come down there, and uh,
Speaker 1: I just would love to catch a giant mako, catch
Speaker 1: and release just to say I did it. I've never
Speaker 1: caught him as big as I know you have them
Speaker 1: down there. Anyway, now that we have the waters all
Speaker 1: chummed up here, let's see if you get slaughtered this
Speaker 1: week when Hayden Samic and I dive head first into
Speaker 1: some oily, bloody fish news. Fish news that escalated quickly.
Speaker 1: We've got a bunch to talk about today. First and foremost,
Speaker 1: Episode one of B Side Fishing Season two drops today
Speaker 1: and if any of yeah, man, if any of you
Speaker 1: are listening early in the morning, perchance, I believe it
Speaker 1: hits meat Eater's YouTube channel at eleven Mountains, so one
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. But man, I gotta say, people, people don't understand,
Speaker 1: like how getting something like b Side out It's kind
Speaker 1: of like giving birth, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: months of work and you finally see baby alive in
Speaker 1: the world. And um, episode one, I gotta say it
Speaker 1: might be like one of one of my favorite videos
Speaker 1: I've ever put together. And the topic is American shad fishing,
Speaker 1: which I've covered that in the past, but never before
Speaker 1: have I taken uh this level of deep dive into
Speaker 1: the historical significance of the fish. And of course this
Speaker 1: all centers around a challenge to eat a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of shad proposed by our old buddy Miles Nulty. I
Speaker 1: miss Miles, I know me too. I've been granted a
Speaker 1: sneak peek at this episode, and I really thought it
Speaker 1: was one of the best videos you've ever put together.
Speaker 1: As thanks man, appreciate that. Um. I thought the bit
Speaker 1: about the significance of shad in the Revolutionary War was
Speaker 1: of particular interest. People don't realize, right, uh, And I
Speaker 1: don't want to give it. I'm gonna give it all away.
Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for American shad, you might be
Speaker 1: British right now, like you might be eating tea and
Speaker 1: strumpets instead of KFC. Because if it hadn't been for
Speaker 1: the shad feeding Washington's army during the Revolutionary War at
Speaker 1: at exactly the right time, they would have all starved
Speaker 1: to death and not been able to keep fighting. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I've done a lot of being from the
Speaker 1: East Coast, I did a lot of like you know,
Speaker 1: class trips to a valley forge and the first thing
Speaker 1: you think about you get to that place is like, man,
Speaker 1: it must have sucked to have had to stay here
Speaker 1: through the winter. You're saying you're saying it sucks when
Speaker 1: you're there on a class trip in the middle of
Speaker 1: the summer, Like, imagine like living there in February, and
Speaker 1: imagine living there eating nothing but shad. Yeah, terrible gift shop, too,
Speaker 1: terrible gift shop. But but the whole point so yes, terrible.
Speaker 1: Just survive on shad. Although a theme like the this
Speaker 1: whole whole thing centers around, can we debunk that? Is
Speaker 1: shad that bad to eat? Or would you only want
Speaker 1: to eat it if you had to survive? Anyway, Hopefully
Speaker 1: you guys will check that out today. Um. In the meantime, man,
Speaker 1: I I gotta say, boy, did that sale been with
Speaker 1: the trout jigs? Hit? Like? I have been overwhelmed by
Speaker 1: notes about that. I even got voice memos right, which
Speaker 1: which normally we reserved for the nibbles and sip segment.
Speaker 1: But here's a quickie from listener Colin Coffee. I hate
Speaker 1: to be the guy to tell you this, but you
Speaker 1: got robbed, dude. Those things are like thirty cents a piece,
Speaker 1: maybe in the tackle shop up there. And this was right.
Speaker 1: This was the overall consensus. Those jigs are nothing secret.
Speaker 1: I've been told they are sold in every single shop
Speaker 1: around Bennett Spring State Park. People have informed me that
Speaker 1: they're are locally referred to as big hurt jigs and
Speaker 1: a million people were like, yeah, whoever sold those to
Speaker 1: you is one of a hundred dudes here that insist
Speaker 1: like he invented the wheel at Trout Parks, Like it's
Speaker 1: not uncommon. I bet you that dude also invented mom
Speaker 1: flies and what probably yeah, yeah, he takes credit for
Speaker 1: all of that. Um. And lastly, before we get on
Speaker 1: to the news here you, sir, where the target of
Speaker 1: your first voice memo? Because last week you uh you
Speaker 1: hit that that's my bar on the Altmar Hotel in Palaska,
Speaker 1: New York. And I got this from listener Eli Creeden. Hey, Joe,
Speaker 1: I've just got a brief message for Hayden. What all
Speaker 1: to mention the Altmar Hotel and no talk of the
Speaker 1: p VJ Wings? Come on now now, Peebe and Jay Wings?
Speaker 1: How and why would you skip that? I want to
Speaker 1: know more about this. I'm on Eli side. Well, Uh,
Speaker 1: to be honest, it was kind of a killer Darling's
Speaker 1: sort of scenario. I I had to cut something for time,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately Joe, Eli, the Peb and J Wings didn't
Speaker 1: mas to you will also might be a little disappointed
Speaker 1: to know that PEB and J Wings are not quite
Speaker 1: as like singular to Altmar Hotel as you might think.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was. I was out there dinner with
Speaker 1: my girlfriend last night, and it should so happen that
Speaker 1: Burger Bob's on Main Street in Boson, Montana also sells
Speaker 1: p B and J wings if you google there, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's something about like the jelly sort of
Speaker 1: caramelizing in such a way that it just kind of
Speaker 1: lends itself, you know. Well, I I had never heard
Speaker 1: of it before. Um, I guess I missed that one.
Speaker 1: But even if I saw it on a menu, unless
Speaker 1: I was sitting with somebody who was like, no, no, no, dude,
Speaker 1: you have to order that, like they're amazing, I'd never
Speaker 1: order that. I wouldn't order them. I have sat with
Speaker 1: people who have been like no, no, no, dude, these
Speaker 1: are amazing, and I still have not ordered him. Although interestingly, uh,
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of folks in Philadelphia deposit that
Speaker 1: that's what makes Lorenzo's pizza so good or in some
Speaker 1: cases so bad, is that they also apparently used grape
Speaker 1: jelly in the sauce. Really, I'd never heard that before,
Speaker 1: and that's on South Street I've eaten years, but man,
Speaker 1: Lorenzos makes I didn't know that. Yeah, oh yeah, huge,
Speaker 1: huge slices. The only thing I've used grape jelly for
Speaker 1: which I've had people scoff at until they try it.
Speaker 1: Like if you ever have a good smoked sausage like
Speaker 1: a Polish sausage or venison, so whatever you got, you
Speaker 1: cook it down in a crock pot with fifty fifty
Speaker 1: grape jelly to barbecue sauce. Fantastic. You're doing the little
Speaker 1: scoff thing now, Um, have you ever heard of have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of the Philly taco? No, it is
Speaker 1: a Jim's cheese steak wrapped up in a slice of
Speaker 1: Lorenzo's pizza. Oh sorry, I just had to put that
Speaker 1: in there. That's fine. If you're looking for a way
Speaker 1: to kill yourself with with a cloud artery, there you go.
Speaker 1: That's the one. Anyway that it's enough about Pepe and
Speaker 1: j Wings. Remember this is a competition. Hayden and I
Speaker 1: do not know which story the other fella is bringing
Speaker 1: to the table at the end. Are no nonsense. Audio
Speaker 1: engineer Phil will decide who has to buy the P,
Speaker 1: B and J wings tonight. And uh, it is your lead, sir,
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? All right? So this
Speaker 1: week on Fish News, you're taking a trip to South Africa.
Speaker 1: That's an expensive plane ticket. Since Phil like saving the
Speaker 1: whales so much, maybe he'll also be into saving the sharks.
Speaker 1: Maybe I just gotta interject and said, I've heard from
Speaker 1: a few people who are like, how did you let
Speaker 1: Hayden beat you with a whale story? It was a
Speaker 1: whale of a story, Joe Man. This one comes from
Speaker 1: News twenty four in South Africa last week. And I
Speaker 1: apologize in advance because I'm sure I'm about to mess
Speaker 1: this name up. Uh. De Vetti a South African wildlife
Speaker 1: sounded right? Sounded right? South African wildlife activists decided to
Speaker 1: take a swim to save the sharks. Specifically, he chose
Speaker 1: to swim from a I really should have looked this
Speaker 1: up Gangs by coast too, Dire Island and back in
Speaker 1: a seven point seven kilometer loop. Now, healthy, okay, healthy dude? Now,
Speaker 1: why did choose this particular route to Dire Island? Uh?
Speaker 1: Dire Island is part of an area known as shark Alley. Basically,
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of seals that post up on
Speaker 1: an adjacent island each winter and pup. So you got
Speaker 1: a lot of these big old white sharks just kind
Speaker 1: of cruise in the area between the two islands looking
Speaker 1: for some fun sized seal snacks. You think we can
Speaker 1: find some seal oil to dip the frills and fishing.
Speaker 1: Because of this, dire island has been known as a
Speaker 1: hot spot for great white sharks for the last like
Speaker 1: hundred years. That is, until recently. Biologists and I guess
Speaker 1: you'd call them like recreational shark observers or shark tourists.
Speaker 1: Sure there's people to do that, just fly all over
Speaker 1: to look at sharks. Yeah, whatever, Folks have been noticing
Speaker 1: there are less sharks around the island. Now. Doty has
Speaker 1: taken it upon himself to draw attention to this problem
Speaker 1: by taking a swim through these previously shark infested waters.
Speaker 1: And you know it's a stunt, right, but it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: The dude really put his money where his mouth is. Like,
Speaker 1: you think this isn't a problem, I'm going to show
Speaker 1: you exactly how confident I am that the shark population
Speaker 1: is messed up around here. Yeah, and I appreciate what
Speaker 1: guys doing, but I mean, you said it, dude, it's
Speaker 1: a stunt. I mean there's also an element of of
Speaker 1: of luck there. Um, you know, I'm sure die Are Island.
Speaker 1: That's where they film a ton of the Shark Week stuff,
Speaker 1: like the seals, you know behind the boat where they're
Speaker 1: they're pulling the fake seal and like it's just kind
Speaker 1: of it's kind of like fishing, right. What you don't
Speaker 1: see is is how many hours or days they spent
Speaker 1: doing that and not getting any sharks to blow up
Speaker 1: on it. So it's yeah, it's a exactly So it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a little stunty, but that's it's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And to be fair, it is like kind of like
Speaker 1: the the pinnacle moment of a documentary that the guys
Speaker 1: putting together, the ultimate goal of which is to ban
Speaker 1: shark nets, which are currently in place off the coast
Speaker 1: of many South African beaches. For those who don't know,
Speaker 1: a shark net is like less of a benign barrier
Speaker 1: and more of a giant ass gill net that not
Speaker 1: only kills a ship ton of sharks but also a
Speaker 1: bunch of other marine life as a result of by catch. Um,
Speaker 1: I would guess that you could probably find some really
Speaker 1: good fishing right around them. Though. Oh I'm sure, man,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure. Sure those nets are as good
Speaker 1: as a floating whale carcass offshore, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm sure everything comes in looking for the strugglers in there.
Speaker 1: So anyway, uh de toy. I like the inflection on you.
Speaker 1: You really it's very French, but that doesn't really make
Speaker 1: sense in South Africa, UHI has taken the lack of
Speaker 1: sharks around Dier Island as evidence that there has been
Speaker 1: a massive population crash, mostly at the hands of man
Speaker 1: i e. The gill nets. And while it's true that
Speaker 1: the rate which we've been killing sharks borders on like
Speaker 1: extermination and the population is certainly in decline, that might
Speaker 1: not be what's going on in this specific instance. Right
Speaker 1: a shark biologist for Dire Island Conservation Trust, Allison Towner,
Speaker 1: I use somebody who's deeply familiar with this population of
Speaker 1: white sharks thinks it's something else. In an interview given
Speaker 1: to the same media source from which I lifted like
Speaker 1: this entire story, she suggests that it's actually orca presence
Speaker 1: causing the sharks to abandon the area. Oh interesting, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a twist. I like it. Plot twist. Uh. One
Speaker 1: might think that it's the orcas out competing the sharks
Speaker 1: for delicious delicious seal babies, forcing the sharks into waters
Speaker 1: with less competition for food, but she doesn't think that
Speaker 1: that's the case. Rather, the sharks appear to be leaving
Speaker 1: to avoid becoming prey themselves. Since twenty seventeen, orcas have
Speaker 1: been actively attacking white sharks around Dyer Island, caused them
Speaker 1: to temporarily vacate the area before eventually returning. As more
Speaker 1: and more orch attacks have been occurring, the sharks have
Speaker 1: been staying away for longer and longer. That said, the
Speaker 1: sharks have always returned, and in fact, throughout May and
Speaker 1: June of this past year, Towner herself tagged eight white
Speaker 1: sharks and observed a bunch more. That is, until an
Speaker 1: orca attack caused the white sharks to vacate the area
Speaker 1: yet again, and as of recently, the sharks have not
Speaker 1: been observed in the area since that attack on white sharks.
Speaker 1: White sharks on that's the ultimate predator. That's like every
Speaker 1: kid's like hero fish. I'm very upset to hear that
Speaker 1: that marine mammals are pushing out white marine mammals suck, dude,
Speaker 1: workers are just bigger dolphins. And we all know you
Speaker 1: hate dolphins. I do. I hate it anyway, Your hatred
Speaker 1: of dolphins is neither here nor there. The fact is
Speaker 1: the dude kind of the dude made his point in
Speaker 1: a big way. To be clear, he's like also not
Speaker 1: calling for folks to like just completely vacate the beaches
Speaker 1: and let the sharks have their way. Rather, he's suggesting
Speaker 1: a more shark friendly approach to I guess being unfriendly
Speaker 1: to sharks and deterring them. Okay, Detroit points out that
Speaker 1: our fear of sharks is I'm switching it up, man,
Speaker 1: deal with it. That's fine. Our fear of sharks is
Speaker 1: basically irrational in the first place. He notes that last year,
Speaker 1: uh ten people out of a population of like eight
Speaker 1: billion were killed by a variety of sharks species, and
Speaker 1: during the same period of time two forty people drowned.
Speaker 1: He comes to the conclusion that we should be thousand
Speaker 1: more times afraid of water than sharks. And I didn't
Speaker 1: check that math. So if it's wrong, don't DM me.
Speaker 1: I think you missed a zero, and I would d
Speaker 1: m M please d M them I back at you.
Speaker 1: I deserve it, So I sort of follow him on that.
Speaker 1: In general, I do think that we've demonized sharks like
Speaker 1: far beyond their actual immediate threat to us. But what
Speaker 1: are you saying? He is super reductive and assumes that
Speaker 1: everybody has an equivalent amount of interaction with the water
Speaker 1: or sharks, like to contextualize out a little bit as
Speaker 1: a dude who spends a lot of time poking around
Speaker 1: for critters and grizz country, like, my chances of a
Speaker 1: bear attack are astronomically higher than my grandmother's or yours
Speaker 1: over New Jersey. Yeah, she's just at the Dollar General.
Speaker 1: She's not in grizz Country at all. She does love
Speaker 1: the Dollar General. Man. Still Grandmas do Dollar General and
Speaker 1: casinos at these beef jerkeys from the Dollar General like
Speaker 1: they expired eight years ago. Graham Still, Uh, we may
Speaker 1: have overreacted a little, um And there are a bunch
Speaker 1: of alternative is to essentially gill netting Great Whites in
Speaker 1: response to their perceived threat. One such alternative is having
Speaker 1: shark spotters and if you've ever seen Jaws too, that's
Speaker 1: where pilots and observers, you know, patrol beaches looking for
Speaker 1: sharks and calling down a threat should one be spotted.
Speaker 1: This has been employed on the west coast of South
Speaker 1: Africa and has proven to be really effective. Um. Another
Speaker 1: option are drum lines. The thug little one of the
Speaker 1: drummer boy. I'm going to just assume that was a
Speaker 1: clip from the film drum Line, and you have not
Speaker 1: seen Days of Thunder. I have never seen drum lines,
Speaker 1: so I guess now we're even You mean Nick Cannon's
Speaker 1: seminal work. Uh, yeah, that great dramatic actor. Drum Lines
Speaker 1: rely on bated hooks attached to booye's to catch sharks. Uh.
Speaker 1: They still have bycatch or whatever, but not nearly to
Speaker 1: the extent scene with shark nets. And recently, around two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, smart drum lines have been developed send a
Speaker 1: signal to rangers on shore when they've caught something, theoretically
Speaker 1: allowing those rangers to go out and free to buy, catch,
Speaker 1: or even relocate sharks. Interesting Okay. This has been tested
Speaker 1: on the island of Reunion in the Indian Ocean. Where
Speaker 1: fifteen of these smart drum lines have been deployed, and
Speaker 1: they found that on average, a fisherman can reach a
Speaker 1: smart line within an hour and a half of an alert,
Speaker 1: and around of animals captured end up surviving the ordeal,
Speaker 1: which is a much better than the survivability gill nets. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, that's that's very cool technology. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to imagine even during um or
Speaker 1: at least I guess during the high season, for when
Speaker 1: when swimmers and sharks are coinciding on these beaches, that's
Speaker 1: got to be somebody's full time gig. And that would
Speaker 1: be a great full time gig. Like you just sit
Speaker 1: around and play mind Sweeper two. Your phone pings, it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: I gotta go out and free a great white, like
Speaker 1: just hang out and then go run out there and
Speaker 1: play around with with the sharks. I think that would
Speaker 1: be cool as hell. Um My only other thought, just
Speaker 1: because I'm kind of a sicko like that, I just
Speaker 1: I imagine in my head like during dude swim, like
Speaker 1: as he's swimming, like he's the middle of the way
Speaker 1: through it and he's just like, see there's no sharks
Speaker 1: out here, and an orchid just comes up and takes
Speaker 1: him like just full orca breach in the mouth, and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, well, how ironic was that the toy
Speaker 1: did not look out for the orcas? No, exactly, Um,
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. Actually, in the trailer for this documentary
Speaker 1: that he's putting together, there's one moment where like a
Speaker 1: seal pops up next to him and clearly scares the
Speaker 1: ship out of the guy. That was wrong you talking
Speaker 1: about sharks spotters? You know, like he made the chopper
Speaker 1: do three extra loops before you go in. Like, are
Speaker 1: you sure, Mike that there are no sharks out there
Speaker 1: right now? You know what I mean? Better home? Mike
Speaker 1: likes him, all right, Well, you did a story about
Speaker 1: a giant fish here, Um, not the biggest whale. Sharks
Speaker 1: are bigger, but great whites are cooler. I too have
Speaker 1: a story about a giant fish, and I can barely
Speaker 1: believe this is happening. But I have to do a
Speaker 1: record story two weeks in a row because buying that,
Speaker 1: because a bunch of listeners forwarded this to me, and
Speaker 1: I feel it's my duty to report on this one.
Speaker 1: Because everyone loves Walleye, right, and everyone except me, But
Speaker 1: I recognize and appreciate their significance in the fishing community.
Speaker 1: And I must say this one warms my heart because, uh,
Speaker 1: if like Ross Robertson caught a new state record walleye,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, of course he did, right, Like he's
Speaker 1: a he's a Walleye machine, he has all the latest
Speaker 1: and greatest gear, he's super dialed. But the victor in
Speaker 1: this story is like the polar opposite of a guy
Speaker 1: like Ross Robertson, which makes the story great. This is
Speaker 1: coming from go eerie dot com headline state record Walleye
Speaker 1: possible after Connell's Ville man catches huge fish. Who is
Speaker 1: that man? Well, it's Richard the Breeze Nicholson. So the
Speaker 1: nickname is the Breeze and he looks kind of like
Speaker 1: the dude, right like Lebowski. But how big was the
Speaker 1: breeze as walleye thirty four inches eighteen point one pounds
Speaker 1: caught in Pennsylvania's Yakaganey River on October and if it's
Speaker 1: certified as a state record, it will beat out the
Speaker 1: seventeen pound nine out state record that was caught in
Speaker 1: the Allegheny Reservoir and has stood since nine so that
Speaker 1: one's been around man like p A hasn't seen a
Speaker 1: record walleye in what's that like forty one year, So
Speaker 1: I'm like that, I'm kind of shocked that this record
Speaker 1: isn't coming out of Lake Erie. Yeah exactly, because you're
Speaker 1: absolutely right Erie. P A is right on the lake there,
Speaker 1: you would think. But now, man, Yakagany River, which I've
Speaker 1: never fished, but I've heard it's a great sleeper brown
Speaker 1: trout river. Like people you fish the yak. I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't talk about the yak while we're talking about it now.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Um, so was the breeze running around on
Speaker 1: the yach with a jetboat equipped with side scan and
Speaker 1: down scan and all the other pro wally accouterments. Not
Speaker 1: even close, As the breeze says himself very succinctly in
Speaker 1: a quote from the story, I'm a live baitman, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So the bait that took the beast was a live
Speaker 1: creak chub, which the breeze trapped himself right. He only
Speaker 1: fishes from the bank, and that evening he had already
Speaker 1: landed an eighteen inch sauger and a twenty seven in
Speaker 1: nine and a half pound Wally. Okay, the eighteen pounder, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, nine and a half from short that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I love this guy. I dude, I love them too. Uh.
Speaker 1: You're gonna love more and more as we go on.
Speaker 1: The eighteen pounder sucked up that creek chubb around seven pm. Okay,
Speaker 1: and according to the breeze, he fought the fish for
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five minutes. Now, let's hold let's compose ourselves.
Speaker 1: Let's hold the phone. Okay. I will discuss the tackle
Speaker 1: he was using in a minute. But I'm telling you
Speaker 1: right now, even though his awesome choice of tackle would
Speaker 1: make any fight a little more sporty, there isn't a
Speaker 1: walleye on this planet that's got twenty to twenty five
Speaker 1: minutes of fighting it. Yeah, okay, here's here's some context
Speaker 1: to put it in perspective. That would be like if
Speaker 1: I hooked a walleye the second I pulled out of
Speaker 1: my driveway, I wouldn't get it in the net until
Speaker 1: I reached Center City, Philadelphia. Okay, that's about a twenty
Speaker 1: five minute drive with no traffic. And that's impossible. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that that that that's a gross exaggeration
Speaker 1: after the fact, Breeze. I'm sorry, but I'm pinging you there. Okay,
Speaker 1: even if you if you were spoiled with a strand
Speaker 1: of human hair, it wouldn't take twenty five minutes to
Speaker 1: land an eighteen pound walleye. So two things. One, are
Speaker 1: you saying that it's impossible that you would get to
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Airport without traffic, because I believe that. Secondly, Secondly,
Speaker 1: while I you're right, I mean they kind of suck
Speaker 1: in fact, Chester Floyd over here meat eater and Seth
Speaker 1: they love to go catch walleye. Chester has a fish allergy,
Speaker 1: cannot eat walleye. I have no idea why the hell
Speaker 1: the dude is going out and just catching them just
Speaker 1: to release him. Listen, listen, I'm not you're You're giving
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to crack a joke about Seth and Chester,
Speaker 1: who I don't talk too often, and I don't like
Speaker 1: making fun of people I don't know all that well.
Speaker 1: But I look at their Instagram stories and their walleye fishing,
Speaker 1: and no one is talking. All you ever hear is
Speaker 1: just that light hule slap on the hull. It's just
Speaker 1: silence and light hull slap, and I'm like, colon, I haven't.
Speaker 1: Let's get excited about something here anyway, and that's that
Speaker 1: is what it is, okay. Uh, but let's hit on
Speaker 1: that tackle because it is pretty cool. Okay. So per
Speaker 1: the story, the breeze was using a noodle rod and
Speaker 1: his real was spooled with six pound test and he
Speaker 1: does this for the extra sensitivity to ensure he knows
Speaker 1: the exact second when a walleye picks up his bait.
Speaker 1: And this makes total sense to me because most of
Speaker 1: the time you have no idea that a walleye just
Speaker 1: picked up your ship, okay, because they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: like hit very hard either most of the time, so
Speaker 1: that's genius. But even so, it can't take twenty five
Speaker 1: minutes to land a walleye on a noodle rod. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a steelhead guy. Noodle rods were designed to absorb
Speaker 1: the fast, hard runs and thrashes of steelhead and salmon.
Speaker 1: And I mean six pound tests. That's light, but it's
Speaker 1: not two pound tests. So like eighteen pound steelhead on
Speaker 1: six pound Yeah, I'm nervous about that eighteen pound wally,
Speaker 1: not at all. It couldn't have thought that much harder
Speaker 1: than the nine pounder he caught. I mean, I fish
Speaker 1: steelhead with six pound test all the time. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: the time, and particularly if it's like Flora or something
Speaker 1: where it's like not going to completely fail the second
Speaker 1: it gets like a little bit of a nick in it, right,
Speaker 1: I would say that it is a very long time
Speaker 1: to be fighting that fish. Yeah, exactly exactly. So look,
Speaker 1: and we're not. I'm not, I'm not. It's still an
Speaker 1: awesome catch. I just when somebody tells me they fought
Speaker 1: a wall eye for five minutes, I'm like, no, you didn't. Anyway.
Speaker 1: So the breeze was fishing with his son, and when
Speaker 1: his son finally got this fish to the net, right,
Speaker 1: the story says that the big old wall I snapped
Speaker 1: the net handle. That I believe, right, I believe that.
Speaker 1: I mean eighteen pounds of fish. Eighteen pounds fish. That's
Speaker 1: big old fish. So what do they do with the
Speaker 1: fish after catching it? Race it off to a certified scale? Nay,
Speaker 1: they did not. They put it in the bathtub. The
Speaker 1: breeze keeps outside on his property that's rigged up to
Speaker 1: keep fish alive until he's ready to eat them. Compart
Speaker 1: this story. The Breeze is known around town for hosting
Speaker 1: Friday night events he calls hill Billy Surf and Turf,
Speaker 1: where he makes hamburgers and whatever fish are presently in
Speaker 1: the outside bathtub. I want to hang out with this man.
Speaker 1: I just love him so much. I just want to
Speaker 1: be a part. I want to be a part of
Speaker 1: all this. It's so good. Um. So it was his son,
Speaker 1: Richard Jr. Who stopped the Breeze from instantly taking a
Speaker 1: knife to the fish because he was like, hey, Dad,
Speaker 1: you know we might we might have a record here.
Speaker 1: So they waited on an old hanging scale that they
Speaker 1: just had in their garage or whatever. They saw that
Speaker 1: it hit eighteen pounds um. Then immediately took it to
Speaker 1: a local grocery store and had the butcher way it
Speaker 1: to confirm. And when they saw that the weight match,
Speaker 1: that's when they knew. They were like, okay, we got it.
Speaker 1: So basically, all that needs to happen to make this
Speaker 1: official is the paperwork filed and and the fish triple
Speaker 1: and double check, and if it all checks out, the
Speaker 1: Breeze has a state record. And this is my favorite part. Right,
Speaker 1: he caught the fish in a spot he's been fishing
Speaker 1: for fifty years and he started fishing it with his dad.
Speaker 1: Wait for it, Glenn the wind, Nicholson, he's the wind
Speaker 1: too much. So if Granddad was the wind and the
Speaker 1: sun is the breeze, what's the grandsun light in variable
Speaker 1: occasional gust of fifteen? I don't know. I just love
Speaker 1: the whole. I love the whole, theming, I love everything
Speaker 1: about it. I love when a record like this falls
Speaker 1: to just a dude, just a dude on the bank
Speaker 1: with a live creek chub. It's so much more satisfying
Speaker 1: to me. And it's not, you know, that far out
Speaker 1: from your opportunistic cat fisherman the other day. No, and
Speaker 1: and and also you know, I think the yaka Gane
Speaker 1: is a great example. Like I said, I know it
Speaker 1: as a as a trophy brown trout river. And there's
Speaker 1: so many rivers like that where they have these deep
Speaker 1: dark holes in these spots and the average you know,
Speaker 1: flied you or whatever. He's gonna rip a streamers there.
Speaker 1: A few times nothing happens, but those holes always leave
Speaker 1: you wondering like what's actually down Like some crazy ship
Speaker 1: has to live in there, But you're so caught up
Speaker 1: in how you want to fish. There's a strong chance
Speaker 1: what you're doing will never allow you to see what's
Speaker 1: in there because you're gonna rip one streamer through or whatever.
Speaker 1: And it's just, I mean just he throws a creek
Speaker 1: chub on the bottom and that's what gets it done.
Speaker 1: And and it's guys like the Breeze in some ways
Speaker 1: that I think are seeing more of what rivers like
Speaker 1: this have to offer than the guy who just wants
Speaker 1: to be the streamer junkie or whatever. Yeah. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, man, there aren't a bunch of streamer
Speaker 1: junkies that are gonna find themselves wildly successful on the
Speaker 1: wall eye bite in general. No, now, But I've seen
Speaker 1: people do that and I'm like, I'm sorry, this is stupid.
Speaker 1: All you just did was put on a really heavy
Speaker 1: jiggy fly and bounce it off the bottom. It is
Speaker 1: steven fly fishing. Um. The other thing that I wonder
Speaker 1: is how many like dedicated wall eye anglers are just
Speaker 1: like eating their teeth right now at the thought of
Speaker 1: somebody keeping an eighteen pound walleye. Well there is that, yes,
Speaker 1: that then there's something to be said for that. Also,
Speaker 1: I mean the breeze kind of spilled all the beans.
Speaker 1: He's like places full of huge walleyes. It's like, would
Speaker 1: you have kept that, wallyye, Joe, No, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have and and and that's not just me
Speaker 1: being righteous. Um, I'm I'm a firm believer in in
Speaker 1: for quality on the table, eating the smallest fish you
Speaker 1: can legally eat in most cases, Like I'm like a
Speaker 1: like a twenty six in striped bass is better on
Speaker 1: the table than the meat from a forty pounder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that's true of a lot of fish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I certainly think that's true. Man. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: keep a lot of the trout that I just because
Speaker 1: in general I kind of find trout to be not
Speaker 1: my favorite fish to eat. What I will do is, um,
Speaker 1: I will keep some brookies here and there as long
Speaker 1: as they're like the ten inch mark. And that has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with conservation. That is strictly a palette
Speaker 1: informed decision, right right, Well, regardless, he did keep it,
Speaker 1: so there's no point in crying about it. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the hill Billy surf and turf that Friday
Speaker 1: man he invited everybody from the next neighborhood over to
Speaker 1: with a feed like that. Fun story regardless. Congrats to
Speaker 1: the Breeze, and I really mean it seems like a
Speaker 1: cool dude. I would love to hang out with them.
Speaker 1: We'll see who Phil wants to hang out with now,
Speaker 1: the Shark, Swimmer or the Breeze at the Hillbilly Surf
Speaker 1: and Turf event. And when we're done, we've got a
Speaker 1: weekly word for you, guys. We're diving back into the
Speaker 1: world of fun derogatory slang terms for outsiders. This one
Speaker 1: coming from the homeland of this week's co host, Jared Serenier,
Speaker 1: Southern Louisiana. Hayden, your story ran the gamut. It had
Speaker 1: everything backstory that tied into some science and some problem solving.
Speaker 1: It was great, but unfortun and only for you. I
Speaker 1: was caught off guard this fine Friday morning by the
Speaker 1: wind and the breeze through my hair. Joe, You're the winner, Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to get ahead of the d
Speaker 1: MS on this one. Earlier you said that without shaded,
Speaker 1: there's a chance we could all be British and we'd
Speaker 1: be eating a lot more tea and strumpets. I believe
Speaker 1: you meant crumpets. I mean, I'm an open minded guy.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that diet would fly in
Speaker 1: the year of our Lord. But hey, England, if you
Speaker 1: ever decided to give her the old college try again
Speaker 1: and you end up winning, go ahead and bring over
Speaker 1: a few of those Nando's Chicken places. That'd be very
Speaker 1: game for that. So I have just been informed by
Speaker 1: Joe that Tan Strumpets is a dumb and dumber reference
Speaker 1: that went right over my head. Oh well, pardon me,
Speaker 1: Mr perfect. I guess I've forgotten that you never ever
Speaker 1: make a mistake. But I will wipe the egg off
Speaker 1: my face and for the second time in there you
Speaker 1: of this podcast, Fish News has a loser, and his
Speaker 1: name is me. Webster's Dictionary defines fish as this week's
Speaker 1: word is chivo, and it was submitted by listener Nick Bradley,
Speaker 1: who lives in St. Bernard Parish in deep southeast Louisiana,
Speaker 1: just like this week's guest co host Jared Serennier. Now,
Speaker 1: we've highlighted several derogatory terms for outsiders here, such as Benny,
Speaker 1: Shooby and fib but I have to admit I was
Speaker 1: humbled by Nick, who presented a slang term which I'd
Speaker 1: never heard of, and like many local derogatory terms for outsiders,
Speaker 1: this one can be used in a fit of anger
Speaker 1: or during a jovial moment between friends. Nick writes St.
Speaker 1: Bernard Parish is home to some of the best inshore
Speaker 1: fishing in the country and has a centuries old, vibrant
Speaker 1: fishing culture. It's literally part of the heritage of the
Speaker 1: people of St. Bernard Parish, and it's that heritage that
Speaker 1: gives us our word for outsiders. Chievos chivo is Spanish
Speaker 1: for kid, as in a baby goat. In the seventeen seventies,
Speaker 1: the most southeasterly part of St. Bernard Delacro was settled
Speaker 1: by the Islanios people of the Canary Islands, which was
Speaker 1: a Spanish colony. The Islanios made a living on the
Speaker 1: water as fishermen, and commercial fishing remains the community's primary
Speaker 1: way of life to this day. In order to be successful,
Speaker 1: the Isslanio's learned and understood the deep intricacies of the
Speaker 1: swamp and marsh around them. When others would come into
Speaker 1: the area and run aground due to unfamiliarity, they would
Speaker 1: stack objects on the decks of their vessels, stand atop
Speaker 1: them in order to look out over the marsh and
Speaker 1: try to make sense of where they were and where
Speaker 1: they could successfully navigate. The locals witnessing this recurring phenomenon
Speaker 1: found humor in it and thought that these stranded outsiders
Speaker 1: looked like the goats high on the cliffs and volcanic
Speaker 1: mountains of their homeland, the Canary Islands, thus referring to
Speaker 1: them as chivos. Chivos still remains a word for unfamiliar
Speaker 1: nonlocals out on the water, as well as a term
Speaker 1: of endearment for your buddy who tries he might just
Speaker 1: sucks at fishing. I hope you all enjoyed this bit
Speaker 1: of local history about the parish and our heritage. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it immensely, Nick, and I'd love to adopt it,
Speaker 1: but I'm just not sure chivos will resonate with any
Speaker 1: of the idiots running the ground in Barnagot Bay in
Speaker 1: New Jersey. However, you are running with a fellow Saint
Speaker 1: Bernard boy this week, so let's see whether Jared thinks
Speaker 1: you nailed this slang lesson or if you're a chievo
Speaker 1: when it comes to navigating local history. I think Nick's
Speaker 1: intentions were good, and I think he I think he
Speaker 1: got I think he got close all right, But I
Speaker 1: had to do a little digging, okay. And the red
Speaker 1: flag for me was the fact that he said that.
Speaker 1: The red flag for me was when he said that
Speaker 1: they used the word chievo as a goat from the
Speaker 1: Canary Islands. But you got a figure they came from
Speaker 1: the Canary Islands in the late seventeen hundreds. The word
Speaker 1: probably didn't start being using until like the early night
Speaker 1: at the at the very earliest, early nineteen hundreds. That's
Speaker 1: a two hundred years. So I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 1: there was anybody around at that point who remembers I
Speaker 1: had heard about goats in the Canary Islands. So that
Speaker 1: was the one for me. And look, I'd used this
Speaker 1: word growing up, heard the word growing up. I've heard
Speaker 1: that exact explanation of it, and I've probably heard the
Speaker 1: real explanation of it in the past, just kind of
Speaker 1: you know, I just had to had to tread and
Speaker 1: I had to go into deep water a little bit
Speaker 1: on called called the resident expert on all things Lanos,
Speaker 1: my uncle Wimpy. Okay, why is Uncle Wimpy not on
Speaker 1: with us? I want to talk to Uncle Wimpy? All right,
Speaker 1: what did he Uncle Wimpy is one of the last
Speaker 1: remaining and this is this is pretty cool. He's one
Speaker 1: of the last remaining speakers of Lanio Spanish alive in
Speaker 1: the world today. So yeah, so you gotta figure that
Speaker 1: Spanish came over from the Canaries in the seventeen hundreds,
Speaker 1: then kind of got mixed in with mainland Spaniards probably,
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit after that. So these guys
Speaker 1: speaking their own language down there at Delacro they were
Speaker 1: cut off from the from the world. You know, they
Speaker 1: language never evolved, so in a lot of ways, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a historic way of speaking. So he's one
Speaker 1: of the last guys left alive today who speaks that dialect,
Speaker 1: who speaks that type of Spanish. So I call him.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I got something to talk to you with.
Speaker 1: You know, let's talk about Shivah, right, And I said, look,
Speaker 1: here's what the dude said on Joe's podcast, and you'll
Speaker 1: tell him what Nick said. And he's like, nah, not quite.
Speaker 1: He's close, but not quite it. So here's the real deal.
Speaker 1: So sometime around the early nineteen hundreds, folks from New
Speaker 1: Orleans started word got out how good the fishing was
Speaker 1: at Delacrox. But it's not like it is now where
Speaker 1: like you know, pretty much everybody has their own boat.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was hard to get a boat back then.
Speaker 1: There wasn't even a real road into Delacrox Island. It
Speaker 1: was just a rock road. So the cats started coming
Speaker 1: down from the city looking for folks who already lived there,
Speaker 1: locals to take them fishing because they had heard about
Speaker 1: how good the fishing was. And then so so the
Speaker 1: cats from Delacro were supplying New Orleans with shrimp and
Speaker 1: fish and all the things they need to you. The
Speaker 1: word was getting out, but you didn't have a boat,
Speaker 1: you didn't have no way to go. So you have
Speaker 1: to go down there and hire a boat to take you. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that right there should tell you there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some some mixture of folks who have a lot
Speaker 1: of experience on the boat. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the early version of every dock in the Florida Keys. Exactly.
Speaker 1: So this is where and this is how. This is
Speaker 1: how close Nick got. Okay, so the way he uncle
Speaker 1: Whitby explained it was that so all the boats at
Speaker 1: that point at that time had a cabin on them,
Speaker 1: you know, where you'd be inside the cabin because they
Speaker 1: were commercial fishing boats. So the folks from New Orleans
Speaker 1: would get on the boat and they wanted to to
Speaker 1: to get up and see things. Where nick was said
Speaker 1: they get on top of the cabin, but they were
Speaker 1: they were just so clumsy and goofy on the boats.
Speaker 1: They would fall, you know, they fall overboard, they'd get
Speaker 1: up on the cabinet. They just were so they were
Speaker 1: so out of swords. It was almost you would have
Speaker 1: gotten the same type of experience if you had taken
Speaker 1: a goat and putting a goat on the boat for
Speaker 1: the first time, because the goat would not know how
Speaker 1: to act on the boat. So that's where it comes in.
Speaker 1: So the actual word chievo is the mainland Spanish word
Speaker 1: for a goat. The Canary word is a cobra, so
Speaker 1: it's not even the same word. So it's the fact
Speaker 1: that they had mountain goats and the Canary Islands. The
Speaker 1: the guys who lived at Delacro in the early nine
Speaker 1: hundred who started using the word, they didn't even know
Speaker 1: they were Canary Islanders. That's how far they were from
Speaker 1: that experience. They didn't. Uncle Whippy said, they didn't really
Speaker 1: even know that they were Canary Islanders until the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: So like all that had been forgotten. It's just a
Speaker 1: coincidence that you had goats in the Canaries and that
Speaker 1: they were using this word. Achiev o. I did. I
Speaker 1: love this though, Like I'm like, thank you to Uncle Wimpy,
Speaker 1: but also thanks to Nick because even though okay, like
Speaker 1: uncle and be clarified like that kicked off this conversation
Speaker 1: because I was very I was very intrigued by by
Speaker 1: Nick's definition. So I feel like that is like we
Speaker 1: really learned some some history there, oh for sure. And
Speaker 1: look Conway, the folks he had the mako. Just leave
Speaker 1: the brie out of it, all right, I love it,
Speaker 1: love it. I'll be munching on some bree in the
Speaker 1: duck line and on the boat man, I'll like some breath.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be achieving to enjoy brith.
Speaker 1: They no, you don't. You don't at all anyway. So
Speaker 1: we are just about done for this week, but before
Speaker 1: we go, if you need a recommendation, for the tie
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I know Jared's giving me this look,
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Speaker 1: those with my pleasure Shad, but I will settle for
Speaker 1: local small jaws. Anyway, I've decided we're gonna skip the
Speaker 1: full end of the line segment this week and close
Speaker 1: out with the sale bin because I've got a listing
Speaker 1: here that should be fun to pick apart with Jared,
Speaker 1: especially since he's both a hardcore hunter and angler. Why
Speaker 1: did you put the hand to pay? You don't know
Speaker 1: what I've gott man. You didn't have to be so
Speaker 1: hurtful with me, so angry. So I found this listing
Speaker 1: on Craigslist and it was posted in Fairborn, Ohio. But
Speaker 1: for some reason, I feel like this could have easily
Speaker 1: been a Louisiana based listing, Like is that fair? I
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen open car ports and quansa huts
Speaker 1: filled with these same items while driving around down there.
Speaker 1: I don't know that you would have someone who had
Speaker 1: that much of this all in one place, and a
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do it well. We lose
Speaker 1: so much stuff in hurricanes, you know. To accumulate that
Speaker 1: much stuff means that you've been a long time without
Speaker 1: a hurricane. You know, that is true. I didn't think
Speaker 1: of that your stuff would just get watched away a
Speaker 1: couple of times. That's fair. But this is what this
Speaker 1: post is a great example um of a post where
Speaker 1: the items up for grabs aren't particularly interesting, right, the
Speaker 1: description and instructions are so detailed that it really helps
Speaker 1: paint a picture of the seller. Okay, now, the title
Speaker 1: of the post is two and fifty fishing poles, seventeen
Speaker 1: tackle boxes, and there are twenty photos accompanying this post
Speaker 1: documenting just the piles and piles of ship that this
Speaker 1: guy has. So let's begin. We'll get into the description here. Fairborn,
Speaker 1: Ohio pickups only. I won't sell all at once or
Speaker 1: in big bulks. Sorry all caps. No, I won't send
Speaker 1: them in the mail. Two fishing poles, open face, push
Speaker 1: button fly rods and bass bait casters. Catfish bait casters
Speaker 1: two to eighty dollars. Fly rods are around twenty dollars.
Speaker 1: Seventeen tackle boxes with some normal tackle fifteen to one dollars,
Speaker 1: many empty tackle boxes around five to eighteen dollars. So
Speaker 1: a couple things jump out at me, right, and we're
Speaker 1: not even done yet. Two to eighty dollars is a
Speaker 1: massive price range on rods. So why are the fly
Speaker 1: rods around twenty dollars? Are they shitty fly rods or
Speaker 1: does he just like not care about them as much
Speaker 1: as the catfish bait casters. Right. Tackle boxes including normal
Speaker 1: tackle with included tackle range from fifteen to a hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: But he also has tackle boxes with no tackle that
Speaker 1: are more than the cheapest ones with tackle, and mind you,
Speaker 1: these are all old school hard plastic tackle boxes, right,
Speaker 1: all right, let me just say I love this dude
Speaker 1: like whoever he is. I love him like I'm with you, brot,
Speaker 1: get your money. You know what you've got. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna get his money because you'll love
Speaker 1: him more by the end. Okay, So we'll move on here, right.
Speaker 1: This is continuing from the description. He also has barnet
Speaker 1: bow ten dollars. Medium sized dog kennel new twenty dollars.
Speaker 1: Women's silver rings knew five dollars, five dollars, five dollars.
Speaker 1: Women's watches need batteries now two dollars each, bag of
Speaker 1: three turkey calls, a twelve gage turkey choke, and two
Speaker 1: cameo masks. Pistol holder thirty eight dollars. Now here's where
Speaker 1: things start to get weird. Right, the last item in
Speaker 1: this list, all it reads is ask if I have
Speaker 1: any ball cards for sale? Now? Dude? To me, right,
Speaker 1: doesn't that sound like secret code to you? Like when
Speaker 1: you'll call, he'll know you're a serious buyer if you
Speaker 1: say the secret phrase. No, it sounds like a flex
Speaker 1: to me, Like ask me how many basketball cards I have? Thousands?
Speaker 1: You know, like it's like my kid who like, like
Speaker 1: I can see my kid come out to me like dead,
Speaker 1: asked me how strong I am? That's a flex man, Dude,
Speaker 1: you could you could be right now, Remember, he said specifically,
Speaker 1: he refuses to sell all these items at once or
Speaker 1: break chunks of them off in bulk, right, He's trying
Speaker 1: to sell them individually. Yet, he says, when you text me.
Speaker 1: If you ask me questions about price or brands or
Speaker 1: eyes or color or anything like that, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to answer you back. If you want to come see them,
Speaker 1: you're welcome to period, all of you. I love him
Speaker 1: so right off the bat, dude, I'm all about the
Speaker 1: turkey calls, the twelve gauge turkey choke, the two camel masks,
Speaker 1: which I want to say, if you've hundred with a
Speaker 1: turkey mask before you know, after about one season of
Speaker 1: turkey hunting, that mask smells to high heaven. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, isn't it like you're like your coffee breath
Speaker 1: and like hot germs like riddle and there're just like
Speaker 1: breathing steam into them all morning, aren't you. Yeah? But
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's so great and then it gets
Speaker 1: better at the end. Included in that package for thirty
Speaker 1: eight dollars is a pistol holster. Right now, I guess
Speaker 1: that when you're turkey hunting, you can't keep the pistol
Speaker 1: with you to shoot a snake. Everybody, but I'm I
Speaker 1: want to hear his explanation as to how the pistol holster.
Speaker 1: That's the package I want, and I'm offering up right
Speaker 1: now to you, sir, a mint condition Kobe Bryant. He's
Speaker 1: actually holding the Kobe Bryant cards right and as as
Speaker 1: we're about to learn that might take the whole pile,
Speaker 1: that might take, he might give you the house and
Speaker 1: um yeah, but he's also he's also open to trades, right,
Speaker 1: so there's no cash on hand, no problem, he says,
Speaker 1: I might be open to some trades. I like basketball cards. Bang,
Speaker 1: there you go, you're ready. I like basketball cards, firearms,
Speaker 1: ball cards, depending on what they are, A nice crossbow
Speaker 1: and then it all caps again. Big eleven foot polls
Speaker 1: with Abu Garcia sixty hundreds, boys four and girls one,
Speaker 1: toys depends maybe household stuff, nice home CD played loud,
Speaker 1: big smart TV. Stuff to keep beat alive, unused cast
Speaker 1: nets or no holes. This dude needs to be on
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. Bra is an interview. This this is
Speaker 1: your guy right here, man. I mean it sounds like
Speaker 1: he is all about some big catfish catch into the
Speaker 1: big eleven foot poles, big eleven foot poles, cat fishing equipment.
Speaker 1: It's like, obviously you're a cat guy, man, Why are
Speaker 1: you selling that? Um? I wish I live close by
Speaker 1: because I'd swing in. If anybody listening near Fairbore, Ohio
Speaker 1: pops into rummage around in this tidal wave of tackle,
Speaker 1: let us know what you find and how it works out.
Speaker 1: It seems like one of those deals where there's like
Speaker 1: a gem or two hiding among all those South Bend
Speaker 1: pistol grip rods, you know what I mean? Maybe or
Speaker 1: maybe not, I don't know. Remember if you find some wild,
Speaker 1: wacky or ridiculous fishing related wears on your favorite online
Speaker 1: classified site, fire that link to bent at the Meat
Speaker 1: Eater dot com and if we use it, I'll stick you.
Speaker 1: So that's it for this week. Remember if someone gets
Speaker 1: you a fly shot at a seven pound mako, it's
Speaker 1: worth putting down the wine and cheese for a hot sec.
Speaker 1: I'm always open to trading my ball all cards for
Speaker 1: gift cards to Louisiana Dakary shacks. Even terrible fishing is
Speaker 1: better than the best power point presentation. If you ever
Speaker 1: see Jared serene on the water and he calls you achiev,
Speaker 1: oh now you know why? Yeah, shout out to Uncle
Speaker 1: Wimpy for the glification, you know, bringing a little history
Speaker 1: into it. I appreciate it. Uh. If y'all are interested,
Speaker 1: go on YouTube type in outside the Levies and not
Speaker 1: people give you a link YouTube duck up. No, go
Speaker 1: on YouTube type in outside the Levies. See next time
Speaker 1: we're having Uncle Wimpy on the show Man. But I'm
Speaker 1: so glad you could hang out with us. Um find
Speaker 1: Jared on Instagram outside the Levies there. Like you said,
Speaker 1: subscribe to outside the Levies YouTube channel. You will not
Speaker 1: be disappointed, and hopefully we get to film some more
Speaker 1: stuff together in the near future. It's been a while,
Speaker 1: don't forget. I've always got eyes on those degenerate Angler
Speaker 1: and Bent podcast hashtags, and uh, I'm always coming the emails.
Speaker 1: We get it Bent at the metator dot com looking
Speaker 1: for the next sale Ben item bar nomination, awkward photo
Speaker 1: and voice memo from you guys. If I use anything
Speaker 1: you send in any way, shape or four, you'll get
Speaker 1: a thing or two in the mail for me. But
Speaker 1: when you text me, if you ask me any questions
Speaker 1: about price or brands or size or color or anything
Speaker 1: like that, I'm not going to answer you back. No
Speaker 1: tire characters, man, that's you know. I don't blame him
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