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Speaker 1: degenerate anglers, and welcome to Ben the Fishing podcast that

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Speaker 1: goes directly to the closest drive through Dakari shack after

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Surmeli and joining me today is my good

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Speaker 1: friend from the land of drive through Dachori Shacks, Jared Serenier.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Brother? Alright, bro, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: But lo wait, we're not drinking dacriies. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: damn for when you get here. Waa that's what No dacories?

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Speaker 1: has not been on this show before, though your voice

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Speaker 1: Smooth Moves is where we let guides and captain's vent

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Speaker 1: And it's happened to people before. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: You watch UFC, you watch UFC at all? Not I've

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Speaker 1: and then one of the ones who was kind of upcoming,

421
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 1: he's from New Orleans originally, and uh, and they weren't

422
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 1: even gonna fight on this card. So the more accomplished fighter,

423
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: Daniel calling it was like, you know, and he's talking

424
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 1: to Derrick Lewis, who was the other fight. He's like, so,

425
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: what's your beef with me? What did I do? We're

426
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: not even fighting. He's like, man, you disrespected that Popeye's

427
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 1: Chicken apparently called me ahead said something negative about Popeye's.

428
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: So I kind of feel the same way. Listen to

429
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, man, there's a few times are

430
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 1: out that deal where he just goes after bree cheese.

431
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I got like, yeah, with your clients,

432
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: but leave debris man. Well, so, since we just heard

433
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 1: a mako shark story, I am compelled to ask you

434
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: something that I've always wanted to know. Maybe you know

435
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: the answer, maybe not. Right, So, offshore fishing is a

436
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 1: big deal in southern Louisiana, right, You guys are all

437
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 1: about tuna and wahoo and swordfish, but some of the

438
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 1: biggest makos in the country live in the Gulf of Mexico,

439
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: And by and large, I feel like the Louisiana off

440
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: short crowd really wants nothing to do with them, and

441
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: I will I will point out, but I want to say, like,

442
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing for the sharks, but

443
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: I'm not about killing all these sharks. But you boys

444
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: also like a stock freezer, and and mako meat is

445
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: very tasty. So I never understood why mako fishing wasn't

446
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: more of a thing down there. That's not entirely true.

447
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: There's definitely guys who do it, but you gotta understand

448
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: the economic driver for venice, which is you know, the

449
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: capital of orf shore fishing is the tuna. It's known

450
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: as Tuna Town. So people come here to catch tuna.

451
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: That's what you know. So the captains, that's what their

452
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,959
Speaker 1: trips are geared to. Now I'll can tell you this

453
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, it's swordfishes is a close

454
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 1: section shore. So it's not necessarily that they don't target mako,

455
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: because I've seen guys like Trey p K with Voodoo

456
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: charters get some enormous makos. I just you know, I

457
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: think that those other things that are more uh yeah,

458
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: that's where their business is geared towards. I definitely can

459
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: can say that they know and appreciate the mako fishery.

460
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: It's just that their clients who pay to go with

461
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: them want to catch tuna and swords. Sure, sure, you're

462
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: just not seeing those makos themselves. Probably really enjoy the

463
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: mako and really appreciate it, but they gotta, you know,

464
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: take the folks who are paying to catch what they want. Interesting,

465
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: one of these days I should come down there, and uh,

466
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: I just would love to catch a giant mako, catch

467
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: and release just to say I did it. I've never

468
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: caught him as big as I know you have them

469
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 1: down there. Anyway, now that we have the waters all

470
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: chummed up here, let's see if you get slaughtered this

471
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: week when Hayden Samic and I dive head first into

472
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: some oily, bloody fish news. Fish news that escalated quickly.

473
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Speaker 1: We've got a bunch to talk about today. First and foremost,

474
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Speaker 1: Episode one of B Side Fishing Season two drops today

475
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: and if any of yeah, man, if any of you

476
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 1: are listening early in the morning, perchance, I believe it

477
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: hits meat Eater's YouTube channel at eleven Mountains, so one

478
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: pm Eastern. But man, I gotta say, people, people don't understand,

479
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: like how getting something like b Side out It's kind

480
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: of like giving birth, you know what I mean, Like

481
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: months of work and you finally see baby alive in

482
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: the world. And um, episode one, I gotta say it

483
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: might be like one of one of my favorite videos

484
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: I've ever put together. And the topic is American shad fishing,

485
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: which I've covered that in the past, but never before

486
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: have I taken uh this level of deep dive into

487
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: the historical significance of the fish. And of course this

488
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: all centers around a challenge to eat a whole bunch

489
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: of shad proposed by our old buddy Miles Nulty. I

490
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: miss Miles, I know me too. I've been granted a

491
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: sneak peek at this episode, and I really thought it

492
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: was one of the best videos you've ever put together.

493
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: As thanks man, appreciate that. Um. I thought the bit

494
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: about the significance of shad in the Revolutionary War was

495
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: of particular interest. People don't realize, right, uh, And I

496
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: don't want to give it. I'm gonna give it all away.

497
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for American shad, you might be

498
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: British right now, like you might be eating tea and

499
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: strumpets instead of KFC. Because if it hadn't been for

500
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: the shad feeding Washington's army during the Revolutionary War at

501
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: at exactly the right time, they would have all starved

502
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: to death and not been able to keep fighting. So, yeah,

503
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, I've done a lot of being from the

504
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: East Coast, I did a lot of like you know,

505
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: class trips to a valley forge and the first thing

506
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: you think about you get to that place is like, man,

507
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: it must have sucked to have had to stay here

508
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: through the winter. You're saying you're saying it sucks when

509
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: you're there on a class trip in the middle of

510
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: the summer, Like, imagine like living there in February, and

511
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: imagine living there eating nothing but shad. Yeah, terrible gift shop, too,

512
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: terrible gift shop. But but the whole point so yes, terrible.

513
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: Just survive on shad. Although a theme like the this

514
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: whole whole thing centers around, can we debunk that? Is

515
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: shad that bad to eat? Or would you only want

516
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: to eat it if you had to survive? Anyway, Hopefully

517
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: you guys will check that out today. Um. In the meantime, man,

518
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: I I gotta say, boy, did that sale been with

519
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: the trout jigs? Hit? Like? I have been overwhelmed by

520
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: notes about that. I even got voice memos right, which

521
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: which normally we reserved for the nibbles and sip segment.

522
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: But here's a quickie from listener Colin Coffee. I hate

523
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: to be the guy to tell you this, but you

524
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: got robbed, dude. Those things are like thirty cents a piece,

525
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: maybe in the tackle shop up there. And this was right.

526
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: This was the overall consensus. Those jigs are nothing secret.

527
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: I've been told they are sold in every single shop

528
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: around Bennett Spring State Park. People have informed me that

529
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: they're are locally referred to as big hurt jigs and

530
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: a million people were like, yeah, whoever sold those to

531
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: you is one of a hundred dudes here that insist

532
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: like he invented the wheel at Trout Parks, Like it's

533
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: not uncommon. I bet you that dude also invented mom

534
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: flies and what probably yeah, yeah, he takes credit for

535
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: all of that. Um. And lastly, before we get on

536
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: to the news here you, sir, where the target of

537
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: your first voice memo? Because last week you uh you

538
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: hit that that's my bar on the Altmar Hotel in Palaska,

539
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: New York. And I got this from listener Eli Creeden. Hey, Joe,

540
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: I've just got a brief message for Hayden. What all

541
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: to mention the Altmar Hotel and no talk of the

542
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: p VJ Wings? Come on now now, Peebe and Jay Wings?

543
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: How and why would you skip that? I want to

544
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: know more about this. I'm on Eli side. Well, Uh,

545
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: to be honest, it was kind of a killer Darling's

546
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: sort of scenario. I I had to cut something for time,

547
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: and unfortunately Joe, Eli, the Peb and J Wings didn't

548
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: mas to you will also might be a little disappointed

549
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: to know that PEB and J Wings are not quite

550
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: as like singular to Altmar Hotel as you might think.

551
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: In fact, I was. I was out there dinner with

552
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: my girlfriend last night, and it should so happen that

553
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: Burger Bob's on Main Street in Boson, Montana also sells

554
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: p B and J wings if you google there, like, yeah,

555
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: I think it's something about like the jelly sort of

556
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: caramelizing in such a way that it just kind of

557
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: lends itself, you know. Well, I I had never heard

558
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: of it before. Um, I guess I missed that one.

559
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: But even if I saw it on a menu, unless

560
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: I was sitting with somebody who was like, no, no, no, dude,

561
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: you have to order that, like they're amazing, I'd never

562
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: order that. I wouldn't order them. I have sat with

563
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: people who have been like no, no, no, dude, these

564
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: are amazing, and I still have not ordered him. Although interestingly, uh,

565
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of folks in Philadelphia deposit that

566
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: that's what makes Lorenzo's pizza so good or in some

567
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: cases so bad, is that they also apparently used grape

568
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: jelly in the sauce. Really, I'd never heard that before,

569
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: and that's on South Street I've eaten years, but man,

570
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Lorenzos makes I didn't know that. Yeah, oh yeah, huge,

571
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: huge slices. The only thing I've used grape jelly for

572
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: which I've had people scoff at until they try it.

573
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Like if you ever have a good smoked sausage like

574
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: a Polish sausage or venison, so whatever you got, you

575
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: cook it down in a crock pot with fifty fifty

576
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: grape jelly to barbecue sauce. Fantastic. You're doing the little

577
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: scoff thing now, Um, have you ever heard of have

578
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: you ever heard of the Philly taco? No, it is

579
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: a Jim's cheese steak wrapped up in a slice of

580
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Lorenzo's pizza. Oh sorry, I just had to put that

581
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: in there. That's fine. If you're looking for a way

582
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: to kill yourself with with a cloud artery, there you go.

583
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: That's the one. Anyway that it's enough about Pepe and

584
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: j Wings. Remember this is a competition. Hayden and I

585
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: do not know which story the other fella is bringing

586
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: to the table at the end. Are no nonsense. Audio

587
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: engineer Phil will decide who has to buy the P,

588
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: B and J wings tonight. And uh, it is your lead, sir,

589
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? All right? So this

590
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: week on Fish News, you're taking a trip to South Africa.

591
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: That's an expensive plane ticket. Since Phil like saving the

592
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: whales so much, maybe he'll also be into saving the sharks.

593
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I just gotta interject and said, I've heard from

594
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: a few people who are like, how did you let

595
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Hayden beat you with a whale story? It was a

596
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: whale of a story, Joe Man. This one comes from

597
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: News twenty four in South Africa last week. And I

598
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: apologize in advance because I'm sure I'm about to mess

599
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: this name up. Uh. De Vetti a South African wildlife

600
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: sounded right? Sounded right? South African wildlife activists decided to

601
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: take a swim to save the sharks. Specifically, he chose

602
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: to swim from a I really should have looked this

603
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: up Gangs by coast too, Dire Island and back in

604
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: a seven point seven kilometer loop. Now, healthy, okay, healthy dude? Now,

605
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: why did choose this particular route to Dire Island? Uh?

606
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Dire Island is part of an area known as shark Alley. Basically,

607
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of seals that post up on

608
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: an adjacent island each winter and pup. So you got

609
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: a lot of these big old white sharks just kind

610
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: of cruise in the area between the two islands looking

611
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: for some fun sized seal snacks. You think we can

612
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: find some seal oil to dip the frills and fishing.

613
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: Because of this, dire island has been known as a

614
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: hot spot for great white sharks for the last like

615
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: hundred years. That is, until recently. Biologists and I guess

616
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: you'd call them like recreational shark observers or shark tourists.

617
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Sure there's people to do that, just fly all over

618
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: to look at sharks. Yeah, whatever, Folks have been noticing

619
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: there are less sharks around the island. Now. Doty has

620
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: taken it upon himself to draw attention to this problem

621
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: by taking a swim through these previously shark infested waters.

622
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: And you know it's a stunt, right, but it's pretty impressive.

623
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: The dude really put his money where his mouth is. Like,

624
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: you think this isn't a problem, I'm going to show

625
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: you exactly how confident I am that the shark population

626
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: is messed up around here. Yeah, and I appreciate what

627
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: guys doing, but I mean, you said it, dude, it's

628
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: a stunt. I mean there's also an element of of

629
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: of luck there. Um, you know, I'm sure die Are Island.

630
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: That's where they film a ton of the Shark Week stuff,

631
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: like the seals, you know behind the boat where they're

632
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: they're pulling the fake seal and like it's just kind

633
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: of it's kind of like fishing, right. What you don't

634
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: see is is how many hours or days they spent

635
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: doing that and not getting any sharks to blow up

636
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: on it. So it's yeah, it's a exactly So it's

637
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a little stunty, but that's it's okay. Yeah,

638
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: And to be fair, it is like kind of like

639
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: the the pinnacle moment of a documentary that the guys

640
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: putting together, the ultimate goal of which is to ban

641
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: shark nets, which are currently in place off the coast

642
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: of many South African beaches. For those who don't know,

643
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: a shark net is like less of a benign barrier

644
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: and more of a giant ass gill net that not

645
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: only kills a ship ton of sharks but also a

646
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: bunch of other marine life as a result of by catch. Um,

647
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: I would guess that you could probably find some really

648
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: good fishing right around them. Though. Oh I'm sure, man,

649
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure. Sure those nets are as good

650
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: as a floating whale carcass offshore, you know what I'm saying.

651
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure everything comes in looking for the strugglers in there.

652
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, uh de toy. I like the inflection on you.

653
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: You really it's very French, but that doesn't really make

654
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: sense in South Africa, UHI has taken the lack of

655
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: sharks around Dier Island as evidence that there has been

656
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: a massive population crash, mostly at the hands of man

657
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: i e. The gill nets. And while it's true that

658
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: the rate which we've been killing sharks borders on like

659
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: extermination and the population is certainly in decline, that might

660
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: not be what's going on in this specific instance. Right

661
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: a shark biologist for Dire Island Conservation Trust, Allison Towner,

662
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: I use somebody who's deeply familiar with this population of

663
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: white sharks thinks it's something else. In an interview given

664
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: to the same media source from which I lifted like

665
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: this entire story, she suggests that it's actually orca presence

666
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: causing the sharks to abandon the area. Oh interesting, Okay,

667
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: that's a twist. I like it. Plot twist. Uh. One

668
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: might think that it's the orcas out competing the sharks

669
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: for delicious delicious seal babies, forcing the sharks into waters

670
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: with less competition for food, but she doesn't think that

671
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: that's the case. Rather, the sharks appear to be leaving

672
00:33:49,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: to avoid becoming prey themselves. Since twenty seventeen, orcas have

673
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: been actively attacking white sharks around Dyer Island, caused them

674
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: to temporarily vacate the area before eventually returning. As more

675
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: and more orch attacks have been occurring, the sharks have

676
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: been staying away for longer and longer. That said, the

677
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: sharks have always returned, and in fact, throughout May and

678
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: June of this past year, Towner herself tagged eight white

679
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: sharks and observed a bunch more. That is, until an

680
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: orca attack caused the white sharks to vacate the area

681
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: yet again, and as of recently, the sharks have not

682
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: been observed in the area since that attack on white sharks.

683
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: White sharks on that's the ultimate predator. That's like every

684
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: kid's like hero fish. I'm very upset to hear that

685
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: that marine mammals are pushing out white marine mammals suck, dude,

686
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: workers are just bigger dolphins. And we all know you

687
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: hate dolphins. I do. I hate it anyway, Your hatred

688
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: of dolphins is neither here nor there. The fact is

689
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: the dude kind of the dude made his point in

690
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: a big way. To be clear, he's like also not

691
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: calling for folks to like just completely vacate the beaches

692
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: and let the sharks have their way. Rather, he's suggesting

693
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: a more shark friendly approach to I guess being unfriendly

694
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: to sharks and deterring them. Okay, Detroit points out that

695
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: our fear of sharks is I'm switching it up, man,

696
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: deal with it. That's fine. Our fear of sharks is

697
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: basically irrational in the first place. He notes that last year,

698
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: uh ten people out of a population of like eight

699
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: billion were killed by a variety of sharks species, and

700
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: during the same period of time two forty people drowned.

701
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: He comes to the conclusion that we should be thousand

702
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: more times afraid of water than sharks. And I didn't

703
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: check that math. So if it's wrong, don't DM me.

704
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: I think you missed a zero, and I would d

705
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: m M please d M them I back at you.

706
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: I deserve it, So I sort of follow him on that.

707
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: In general, I do think that we've demonized sharks like

708
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: far beyond their actual immediate threat to us. But what

709
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: are you saying? He is super reductive and assumes that

710
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: everybody has an equivalent amount of interaction with the water

711
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: or sharks, like to contextualize out a little bit as

712
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: a dude who spends a lot of time poking around

713
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: for critters and grizz country, like, my chances of a

714
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: bear attack are astronomically higher than my grandmother's or yours

715
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: over New Jersey. Yeah, she's just at the Dollar General.

716
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: She's not in grizz Country at all. She does love

717
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: the Dollar General. Man. Still Grandmas do Dollar General and

718
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: casinos at these beef jerkeys from the Dollar General like

719
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: they expired eight years ago. Graham Still, Uh, we may

720
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: have overreacted a little, um And there are a bunch

721
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: of alternative is to essentially gill netting Great Whites in

722
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: response to their perceived threat. One such alternative is having

723
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: shark spotters and if you've ever seen Jaws too, that's

724
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: where pilots and observers, you know, patrol beaches looking for

725
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: sharks and calling down a threat should one be spotted.

726
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: This has been employed on the west coast of South

727
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Africa and has proven to be really effective. Um. Another

728
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: option are drum lines. The thug little one of the

729
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: drummer boy. I'm going to just assume that was a

730
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: clip from the film drum Line, and you have not

731
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: seen Days of Thunder. I have never seen drum lines,

732
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: so I guess now we're even You mean Nick Cannon's

733
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: seminal work. Uh, yeah, that great dramatic actor. Drum Lines

734
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: rely on bated hooks attached to booye's to catch sharks. Uh.

735
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: They still have bycatch or whatever, but not nearly to

736
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: the extent scene with shark nets. And recently, around two

737
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, smart drum lines have been developed send a

738
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: signal to rangers on shore when they've caught something, theoretically

739
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: allowing those rangers to go out and free to buy, catch,

740
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: or even relocate sharks. Interesting Okay. This has been tested

741
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: on the island of Reunion in the Indian Ocean. Where

742
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: fifteen of these smart drum lines have been deployed, and

743
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: they found that on average, a fisherman can reach a

744
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: smart line within an hour and a half of an alert,

745
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: and around of animals captured end up surviving the ordeal,

746
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: which is a much better than the survivability gill nets. Absolutely,

747
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, that's that's very cool technology. And

748
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to imagine even during um or

749
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: at least I guess during the high season, for when

750
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: when swimmers and sharks are coinciding on these beaches, that's

751
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: got to be somebody's full time gig. And that would

752
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: be a great full time gig. Like you just sit

753
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: around and play mind Sweeper two. Your phone pings, it's like, uh,

754
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I gotta go out and free a great white, like

755
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: just hang out and then go run out there and

756
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: play around with with the sharks. I think that would

757
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: be cool as hell. Um My only other thought, just

758
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: because I'm kind of a sicko like that, I just

759
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: I imagine in my head like during dude swim, like

760
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: as he's swimming, like he's the middle of the way

761
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: through it and he's just like, see there's no sharks

762
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: out here, and an orchid just comes up and takes

763
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: him like just full orca breach in the mouth, and

764
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: I'd be like, well, how ironic was that the toy

765
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: did not look out for the orcas? No, exactly, Um,

766
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. Actually, in the trailer for this documentary

767
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: that he's putting together, there's one moment where like a

768
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: seal pops up next to him and clearly scares the

769
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: ship out of the guy. That was wrong you talking

770
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: about sharks spotters? You know, like he made the chopper

771
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: do three extra loops before you go in. Like, are

772
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: you sure, Mike that there are no sharks out there

773
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: right now? You know what I mean? Better home? Mike

774
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: likes him, all right, Well, you did a story about

775
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: a giant fish here, Um, not the biggest whale. Sharks

776
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: are bigger, but great whites are cooler. I too have

777
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: a story about a giant fish, and I can barely

778
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: believe this is happening. But I have to do a

779
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: record story two weeks in a row because buying that,

780
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: because a bunch of listeners forwarded this to me, and

781
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: I feel it's my duty to report on this one.

782
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: Because everyone loves Walleye, right, and everyone except me, But

783
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I recognize and appreciate their significance in the fishing community.

784
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: And I must say this one warms my heart because, uh,

785
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: if like Ross Robertson caught a new state record walleye,

786
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: I'd be like, of course he did, right, Like he's

787
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: a he's a Walleye machine, he has all the latest

788
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: and greatest gear, he's super dialed. But the victor in

789
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: this story is like the polar opposite of a guy

790
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: like Ross Robertson, which makes the story great. This is

791
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: coming from go eerie dot com headline state record Walleye

792
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: possible after Connell's Ville man catches huge fish. Who is

793
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: that man? Well, it's Richard the Breeze Nicholson. So the

794
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: nickname is the Breeze and he looks kind of like

795
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: the dude, right like Lebowski. But how big was the

796
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: breeze as walleye thirty four inches eighteen point one pounds

797
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: caught in Pennsylvania's Yakaganey River on October and if it's

798
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: certified as a state record, it will beat out the

799
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: seventeen pound nine out state record that was caught in

800
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: the Allegheny Reservoir and has stood since nine so that

801
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: one's been around man like p A hasn't seen a

802
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: record walleye in what's that like forty one year, So

803
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm like that, I'm kind of shocked that this record

804
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: isn't coming out of Lake Erie. Yeah exactly, because you're

805
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: absolutely right Erie. P A is right on the lake there,

806
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: you would think. But now, man, Yakagany River, which I've

807
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: never fished, but I've heard it's a great sleeper brown

808
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: trout river. Like people you fish the yak. I'm like,

809
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: don't talk about the yak while we're talking about it now.

810
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: But anyway, Um, so was the breeze running around on

811
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: the yach with a jetboat equipped with side scan and

812
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: down scan and all the other pro wally accouterments. Not

813
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: even close, As the breeze says himself very succinctly in

814
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: a quote from the story, I'm a live baitman, Yes, yes,

815
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: So the bait that took the beast was a live

816
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: creak chub, which the breeze trapped himself right. He only

817
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: fishes from the bank, and that evening he had already

818
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: landed an eighteen inch sauger and a twenty seven in

819
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: nine and a half pound Wally. Okay, the eighteen pounder, Yeah,

820
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, nine and a half from short that's amazing.

821
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I love this guy. I dude, I love them too. Uh.

822
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna love more and more as we go on.

823
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: The eighteen pounder sucked up that creek chubb around seven pm. Okay,

824
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: and according to the breeze, he fought the fish for

825
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five minutes. Now, let's hold let's compose ourselves.

826
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: Let's hold the phone. Okay. I will discuss the tackle

827
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: he was using in a minute. But I'm telling you

828
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: right now, even though his awesome choice of tackle would

829
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: make any fight a little more sporty, there isn't a

830
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: walleye on this planet that's got twenty to twenty five

831
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: minutes of fighting it. Yeah, okay, here's here's some context

832
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: to put it in perspective. That would be like if

833
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: I hooked a walleye the second I pulled out of

834
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: my driveway, I wouldn't get it in the net until

835
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: I reached Center City, Philadelphia. Okay, that's about a twenty

836
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: five minute drive with no traffic. And that's impossible. And

837
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that that that that's a gross exaggeration

838
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: after the fact, Breeze. I'm sorry, but I'm pinging you there. Okay,

839
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: even if you if you were spoiled with a strand

840
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: of human hair, it wouldn't take twenty five minutes to

841
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: land an eighteen pound walleye. So two things. One, are

842
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: you saying that it's impossible that you would get to

843
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Airport without traffic, because I believe that. Secondly, Secondly,

844
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: while I you're right, I mean they kind of suck

845
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: in fact, Chester Floyd over here meat eater and Seth

846
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: they love to go catch walleye. Chester has a fish allergy,

847
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: cannot eat walleye. I have no idea why the hell

848
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: the dude is going out and just catching them just

849
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: to release him. Listen, listen, I'm not you're You're giving

850
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to crack a joke about Seth and Chester,

851
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: who I don't talk too often, and I don't like

852
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: making fun of people I don't know all that well.

853
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: But I look at their Instagram stories and their walleye fishing,

854
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: and no one is talking. All you ever hear is

855
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: just that light hule slap on the hull. It's just

856
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: silence and light hull slap, and I'm like, colon, I haven't.

857
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: Let's get excited about something here anyway, and that's that

858
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: is what it is, okay. Uh, but let's hit on

859
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: that tackle because it is pretty cool. Okay. So per

860
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: the story, the breeze was using a noodle rod and

861
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: his real was spooled with six pound test and he

862
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: does this for the extra sensitivity to ensure he knows

863
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: the exact second when a walleye picks up his bait.

864
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: And this makes total sense to me because most of

865
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: the time you have no idea that a walleye just

866
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: picked up your ship, okay, because they don't. They don't

867
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: like hit very hard either most of the time, so

868
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: that's genius. But even so, it can't take twenty five

869
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: minutes to land a walleye on a noodle rod. I mean,

870
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: you're a steelhead guy. Noodle rods were designed to absorb

871
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: the fast, hard runs and thrashes of steelhead and salmon.

872
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: And I mean six pound tests. That's light, but it's

873
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: not two pound tests. So like eighteen pound steelhead on

874
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: six pound Yeah, I'm nervous about that eighteen pound wally,

875
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: not at all. It couldn't have thought that much harder

876
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: than the nine pounder he caught. I mean, I fish

877
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: steelhead with six pound test all the time. Yeah, all

878
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: the time, and particularly if it's like Flora or something

879
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: where it's like not going to completely fail the second

880
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: it gets like a little bit of a nick in it, right,

881
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: I would say that it is a very long time

882
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: to be fighting that fish. Yeah, exactly exactly. So look,

883
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: and we're not. I'm not, I'm not. It's still an

884
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: awesome catch. I just when somebody tells me they fought

885
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: a wall eye for five minutes, I'm like, no, you didn't. Anyway.

886
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: So the breeze was fishing with his son, and when

887
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: his son finally got this fish to the net, right,

888
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: the story says that the big old wall I snapped

889
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: the net handle. That I believe, right, I believe that.

890
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean eighteen pounds of fish. Eighteen pounds fish. That's

891
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: big old fish. So what do they do with the

892
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: fish after catching it? Race it off to a certified scale? Nay,

893
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: they did not. They put it in the bathtub. The

894
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: breeze keeps outside on his property that's rigged up to

895
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: keep fish alive until he's ready to eat them. Compart

896
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: this story. The Breeze is known around town for hosting

897
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: Friday night events he calls hill Billy Surf and Turf,

898
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: where he makes hamburgers and whatever fish are presently in

899
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: the outside bathtub. I want to hang out with this man.

900
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: I just love him so much. I just want to

901
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: be a part. I want to be a part of

902
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: all this. It's so good. Um. So it was his son,

903
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: Richard Jr. Who stopped the Breeze from instantly taking a

904
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: knife to the fish because he was like, hey, Dad,

905
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: you know we might we might have a record here.

906
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: So they waited on an old hanging scale that they

907
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: just had in their garage or whatever. They saw that

908
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: it hit eighteen pounds um. Then immediately took it to

909
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: a local grocery store and had the butcher way it

910
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: to confirm. And when they saw that the weight match,

911
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: that's when they knew. They were like, okay, we got it.

912
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: So basically, all that needs to happen to make this

913
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: official is the paperwork filed and and the fish triple

914
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: and double check, and if it all checks out, the

915
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: Breeze has a state record. And this is my favorite part. Right,

916
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: he caught the fish in a spot he's been fishing

917
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: for fifty years and he started fishing it with his dad.

918
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: Wait for it, Glenn the wind, Nicholson, he's the wind

919
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: too much. So if Granddad was the wind and the

920
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: sun is the breeze, what's the grandsun light in variable

921
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: occasional gust of fifteen? I don't know. I just love

922
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: the whole. I love the whole, theming, I love everything

923
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: about it. I love when a record like this falls

924
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: to just a dude, just a dude on the bank

925
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: with a live creek chub. It's so much more satisfying

926
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: to me. And it's not, you know, that far out

927
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: from your opportunistic cat fisherman the other day. No, and

928
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: and and also you know, I think the yaka Gane

929
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: is a great example. Like I said, I know it

930
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: as a as a trophy brown trout river. And there's

931
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: so many rivers like that where they have these deep

932
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: dark holes in these spots and the average you know,

933
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: flied you or whatever. He's gonna rip a streamers there.

934
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: A few times nothing happens, but those holes always leave

935
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: you wondering like what's actually down Like some crazy ship

936
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: has to live in there, But you're so caught up

937
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: in how you want to fish. There's a strong chance

938
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: what you're doing will never allow you to see what's

939
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: in there because you're gonna rip one streamer through or whatever.

940
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: And it's just, I mean just he throws a creek

941
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: chub on the bottom and that's what gets it done.

942
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: And and it's guys like the Breeze in some ways

943
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: that I think are seeing more of what rivers like

944
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: this have to offer than the guy who just wants

945
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: to be the streamer junkie or whatever. Yeah. Well, I'll

946
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: tell you what, man, there aren't a bunch of streamer

947
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: junkies that are gonna find themselves wildly successful on the

948
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: wall eye bite in general. No, now, But I've seen

949
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: people do that and I'm like, I'm sorry, this is stupid.

950
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: All you just did was put on a really heavy

951
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: jiggy fly and bounce it off the bottom. It is

952
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: steven fly fishing. Um. The other thing that I wonder

953
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: is how many like dedicated wall eye anglers are just

954
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: like eating their teeth right now at the thought of

955
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: somebody keeping an eighteen pound walleye. Well there is that, yes,

956
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: that then there's something to be said for that. Also,

957
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean the breeze kind of spilled all the beans.

958
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: He's like places full of huge walleyes. It's like, would

959
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: you have kept that, wallyye, Joe, No, I wouldn't have.

960
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have and and and that's not just me

961
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: being righteous. Um, I'm I'm a firm believer in in

962
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: for quality on the table, eating the smallest fish you

963
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: can legally eat in most cases, Like I'm like a

964
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: like a twenty six in striped bass is better on

965
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: the table than the meat from a forty pounder. Yeah,

966
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's true of a lot of fish. Yeah,

967
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: I certainly think that's true. Man. You know, I don't

968
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: keep a lot of the trout that I just because

969
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: in general I kind of find trout to be not

970
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: my favorite fish to eat. What I will do is, um,

971
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: I will keep some brookies here and there as long

972
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: as they're like the ten inch mark. And that has

973
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: nothing to do with conservation. That is strictly a palette

974
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: informed decision, right right, Well, regardless, he did keep it,

975
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: so there's no point in crying about it. I'm sure.

976
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure the hill Billy surf and turf that Friday

977
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: man he invited everybody from the next neighborhood over to

978
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: with a feed like that. Fun story regardless. Congrats to

979
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: the Breeze, and I really mean it seems like a

980
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: cool dude. I would love to hang out with them.

981
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: We'll see who Phil wants to hang out with now,

982
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: the Shark, Swimmer or the Breeze at the Hillbilly Surf

983
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: and Turf event. And when we're done, we've got a

984
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: weekly word for you, guys. We're diving back into the

985
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: world of fun derogatory slang terms for outsiders. This one

986
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: coming from the homeland of this week's co host, Jared Serenier,

987
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: Southern Louisiana. Hayden, your story ran the gamut. It had

988
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: everything backstory that tied into some science and some problem solving.

989
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: It was great, but unfortun and only for you. I

990
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: was caught off guard this fine Friday morning by the

991
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: wind and the breeze through my hair. Joe, You're the winner, Joe.

992
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna try to get ahead of the d

993
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: MS on this one. Earlier you said that without shaded,

994
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: there's a chance we could all be British and we'd

995
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: be eating a lot more tea and strumpets. I believe

996
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: you meant crumpets. I mean, I'm an open minded guy.

997
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know if that diet would fly in

998
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: the year of our Lord. But hey, England, if you

999
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: ever decided to give her the old college try again

1000
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: and you end up winning, go ahead and bring over

1001
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: a few of those Nando's Chicken places. That'd be very

1002
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: game for that. So I have just been informed by

1003
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Joe that Tan Strumpets is a dumb and dumber reference

1004
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: that went right over my head. Oh well, pardon me,

1005
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Mr perfect. I guess I've forgotten that you never ever

1006
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: make a mistake. But I will wipe the egg off

1007
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: my face and for the second time in there you

1008
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: of this podcast, Fish News has a loser, and his

1009
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: name is me. Webster's Dictionary defines fish as this week's

1010
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: word is chivo, and it was submitted by listener Nick Bradley,

1011
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: who lives in St. Bernard Parish in deep southeast Louisiana,

1012
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: just like this week's guest co host Jared Serennier. Now,

1013
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: we've highlighted several derogatory terms for outsiders here, such as Benny,

1014
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: Shooby and fib but I have to admit I was

1015
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: humbled by Nick, who presented a slang term which I'd

1016
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: never heard of, and like many local derogatory terms for outsiders,

1017
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: this one can be used in a fit of anger

1018
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: or during a jovial moment between friends. Nick writes St.

1019
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Bernard Parish is home to some of the best inshore

1020
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: fishing in the country and has a centuries old, vibrant

1021
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: fishing culture. It's literally part of the heritage of the

1022
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: people of St. Bernard Parish, and it's that heritage that

1023
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: gives us our word for outsiders. Chievos chivo is Spanish

1024
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: for kid, as in a baby goat. In the seventeen seventies,

1025
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: the most southeasterly part of St. Bernard Delacro was settled

1026
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: by the Islanios people of the Canary Islands, which was

1027
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: a Spanish colony. The Islanios made a living on the

1028
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: water as fishermen, and commercial fishing remains the community's primary

1029
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: way of life to this day. In order to be successful,

1030
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: the Isslanio's learned and understood the deep intricacies of the

1031
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: swamp and marsh around them. When others would come into

1032
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: the area and run aground due to unfamiliarity, they would

1033
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: stack objects on the decks of their vessels, stand atop

1034
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: them in order to look out over the marsh and

1035
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: try to make sense of where they were and where

1036
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: they could successfully navigate. The locals witnessing this recurring phenomenon

1037
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: found humor in it and thought that these stranded outsiders

1038
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: looked like the goats high on the cliffs and volcanic

1039
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: mountains of their homeland, the Canary Islands, thus referring to

1040
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: them as chivos. Chivos still remains a word for unfamiliar

1041
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: nonlocals out on the water, as well as a term

1042
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: of endearment for your buddy who tries he might just

1043
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: sucks at fishing. I hope you all enjoyed this bit

1044
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: of local history about the parish and our heritage. I

1045
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: enjoyed it immensely, Nick, and I'd love to adopt it,

1046
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: but I'm just not sure chivos will resonate with any

1047
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: of the idiots running the ground in Barnagot Bay in

1048
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: New Jersey. However, you are running with a fellow Saint

1049
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: Bernard boy this week, so let's see whether Jared thinks

1050
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: you nailed this slang lesson or if you're a chievo

1051
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to navigating local history. I think Nick's

1052
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: intentions were good, and I think he I think he

1053
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: got I think he got close all right, But I

1054
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: had to do a little digging, okay. And the red

1055
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: flag for me was the fact that he said that.

1056
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: The red flag for me was when he said that

1057
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: they used the word chievo as a goat from the

1058
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: Canary Islands. But you got a figure they came from

1059
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: the Canary Islands in the late seventeen hundreds. The word

1060
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: probably didn't start being using until like the early night

1061
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: at the at the very earliest, early nineteen hundreds. That's

1062
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: a two hundred years. So I'm like, I don't think

1063
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: there was anybody around at that point who remembers I

1064
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: had heard about goats in the Canary Islands. So that

1065
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: was the one for me. And look, I'd used this

1066
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: word growing up, heard the word growing up. I've heard

1067
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: that exact explanation of it, and I've probably heard the

1068
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: real explanation of it in the past, just kind of

1069
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, I just had to had to tread and

1070
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: I had to go into deep water a little bit

1071
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: on called called the resident expert on all things Lanos,

1072
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: my uncle Wimpy. Okay, why is Uncle Wimpy not on

1073
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: with us? I want to talk to Uncle Wimpy? All right,

1074
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: what did he Uncle Wimpy is one of the last

1075
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: remaining and this is this is pretty cool. He's one

1076
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: of the last remaining speakers of Lanio Spanish alive in

1077
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: the world today. So yeah, so you gotta figure that

1078
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: Spanish came over from the Canaries in the seventeen hundreds,

1079
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: then kind of got mixed in with mainland Spaniards probably,

1080
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit after that. So these guys

1081
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: speaking their own language down there at Delacro they were

1082
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: cut off from the from the world. You know, they

1083
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: language never evolved, so in a lot of ways, it's

1084
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: kind of a historic way of speaking. So he's one

1085
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: of the last guys left alive today who speaks that dialect,

1086
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: who speaks that type of Spanish. So I call him.

1087
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I got something to talk to you with.

1088
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: You know, let's talk about Shivah, right, And I said, look,

1089
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: here's what the dude said on Joe's podcast, and you'll

1090
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: tell him what Nick said. And he's like, nah, not quite.

1091
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: He's close, but not quite it. So here's the real deal.

1092
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: So sometime around the early nineteen hundreds, folks from New

1093
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: Orleans started word got out how good the fishing was

1094
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: at Delacrox. But it's not like it is now where

1095
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: like you know, pretty much everybody has their own boat.

1096
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it was hard to get a boat back then.

1097
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: There wasn't even a real road into Delacrox Island. It

1098
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: was just a rock road. So the cats started coming

1099
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: down from the city looking for folks who already lived there,

1100
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: locals to take them fishing because they had heard about

1101
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: how good the fishing was. And then so so the

1102
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: cats from Delacro were supplying New Orleans with shrimp and

1103
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: fish and all the things they need to you. The

1104
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: word was getting out, but you didn't have a boat,

1105
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: you didn't have no way to go. So you have

1106
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: to go down there and hire a boat to take you. Well,

1107
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean that right there should tell you there's gonna

1108
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: be some some mixture of folks who have a lot

1109
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: of experience on the boat. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is

1110
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: the early version of every dock in the Florida Keys. Exactly.

1111
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: So this is where and this is how. This is

1112
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: how close Nick got. Okay, so the way he uncle

1113
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: Whitby explained it was that so all the boats at

1114
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: that point at that time had a cabin on them,

1115
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, where you'd be inside the cabin because they

1116
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: were commercial fishing boats. So the folks from New Orleans

1117
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: would get on the boat and they wanted to to

1118
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: to get up and see things. Where nick was said

1119
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: they get on top of the cabin, but they were

1120
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: they were just so clumsy and goofy on the boats.

1121
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: They would fall, you know, they fall overboard, they'd get

1122
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: up on the cabinet. They just were so they were

1123
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: so out of swords. It was almost you would have

1124
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: gotten the same type of experience if you had taken

1125
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: a goat and putting a goat on the boat for

1126
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: the first time, because the goat would not know how

1127
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: to act on the boat. So that's where it comes in.

1128
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: So the actual word chievo is the mainland Spanish word

1129
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: for a goat. The Canary word is a cobra, so

1130
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: it's not even the same word. So it's the fact

1131
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: that they had mountain goats and the Canary Islands. The

1132
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: the guys who lived at Delacro in the early nine

1133
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: hundred who started using the word, they didn't even know

1134
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: they were Canary Islanders. That's how far they were from

1135
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: that experience. They didn't. Uncle Whippy said, they didn't really

1136
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: even know that they were Canary Islanders until the nineteen seventies.

1137
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: So like all that had been forgotten. It's just a

1138
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: coincidence that you had goats in the Canaries and that

1139
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: they were using this word. Achiev o. I did. I

1140
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: love this though, Like I'm like, thank you to Uncle Wimpy,

1141
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: but also thanks to Nick because even though okay, like

1142
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: uncle and be clarified like that kicked off this conversation

1143
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: because I was very I was very intrigued by by

1144
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Nick's definition. So I feel like that is like we

1145
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: really learned some some history there, oh for sure. And

1146
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: look Conway, the folks he had the mako. Just leave

1147
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: the brie out of it, all right, I love it,

1148
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: love it. I'll be munching on some bree in the

1149
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: duck line and on the boat man, I'll like some breath.

1150
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to be achieving to enjoy brith.

1151
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: They no, you don't. You don't at all anyway. So

1152
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: we are just about done for this week, but before

1153
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: we go, if you need a recommendation, for the tie

1154
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: on the end of your line this weekend. How about

1155
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: a pleasure chad from our sponsors thirteen Fishing. It's the

1156
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: paddle tail swim bait that's ribbed for his or her pleasure.

1157
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I know Jared's giving me this look,

1158
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: but that's what they wrote on their website. Man. The

1159
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: ribs also provide extra stimulation, maybe two red fish sea trout,

1160
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: perhaps down your way. I would love to be stimulating

1161
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: those with my pleasure Shad, but I will settle for

1162
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: local small jaws. Anyway, I've decided we're gonna skip the

1163
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: full end of the line segment this week and close

1164
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: out with the sale bin because I've got a listing

1165
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: here that should be fun to pick apart with Jared,

1166
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: especially since he's both a hardcore hunter and angler. Why

1167
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: did you put the hand to pay? You don't know

1168
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: what I've gott man. You didn't have to be so

1169
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: hurtful with me, so angry. So I found this listing

1170
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: on Craigslist and it was posted in Fairborn, Ohio. But

1171
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: for some reason, I feel like this could have easily

1172
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: been a Louisiana based listing, Like is that fair? I

1173
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen open car ports and quansa huts

1174
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: filled with these same items while driving around down there.

1175
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that you would have someone who had

1176
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: that much of this all in one place, and a

1177
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do it well. We lose

1178
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: so much stuff in hurricanes, you know. To accumulate that

1179
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: much stuff means that you've been a long time without

1180
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: a hurricane. You know, that is true. I didn't think

1181
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: of that your stuff would just get watched away a

1182
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: couple of times. That's fair. But this is what this

1183
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: post is a great example um of a post where

1184
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: the items up for grabs aren't particularly interesting, right, the

1185
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: description and instructions are so detailed that it really helps

1186
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: paint a picture of the seller. Okay, now, the title

1187
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: of the post is two and fifty fishing poles, seventeen

1188
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: tackle boxes, and there are twenty photos accompanying this post

1189
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: documenting just the piles and piles of ship that this

1190
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: guy has. So let's begin. We'll get into the description here. Fairborn,

1191
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: Ohio pickups only. I won't sell all at once or

1192
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: in big bulks. Sorry all caps. No, I won't send

1193
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: them in the mail. Two fishing poles, open face, push

1194
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: button fly rods and bass bait casters. Catfish bait casters

1195
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: two to eighty dollars. Fly rods are around twenty dollars.

1196
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: Seventeen tackle boxes with some normal tackle fifteen to one dollars,

1197
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: many empty tackle boxes around five to eighteen dollars. So

1198
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: a couple things jump out at me, right, and we're

1199
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: not even done yet. Two to eighty dollars is a

1200
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: massive price range on rods. So why are the fly

1201
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: rods around twenty dollars? Are they shitty fly rods or

1202
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: does he just like not care about them as much

1203
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: as the catfish bait casters. Right. Tackle boxes including normal

1204
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: tackle with included tackle range from fifteen to a hundred bucks.

1205
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: But he also has tackle boxes with no tackle that

1206
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: are more than the cheapest ones with tackle, and mind you,

1207
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: these are all old school hard plastic tackle boxes, right,

1208
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: all right, let me just say I love this dude

1209
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: like whoever he is. I love him like I'm with you, brot,

1210
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: get your money. You know what you've got. Oh yeah,

1211
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna get his money because you'll love

1212
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: him more by the end. Okay, So we'll move on here, right.

1213
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: This is continuing from the description. He also has barnet

1214
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: bow ten dollars. Medium sized dog kennel new twenty dollars.

1215
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Women's silver rings knew five dollars, five dollars, five dollars.

1216
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: Women's watches need batteries now two dollars each, bag of

1217
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: three turkey calls, a twelve gage turkey choke, and two

1218
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: cameo masks. Pistol holder thirty eight dollars. Now here's where

1219
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: things start to get weird. Right, the last item in

1220
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: this list, all it reads is ask if I have

1221
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: any ball cards for sale? Now? Dude? To me, right,

1222
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: doesn't that sound like secret code to you? Like when

1223
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: you'll call, he'll know you're a serious buyer if you

1224
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: say the secret phrase. No, it sounds like a flex

1225
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: to me, Like ask me how many basketball cards I have? Thousands?

1226
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: You know, like it's like my kid who like, like

1227
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: I can see my kid come out to me like dead,

1228
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: asked me how strong I am? That's a flex man, Dude,

1229
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: you could you could be right now, Remember, he said specifically,

1230
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: he refuses to sell all these items at once or

1231
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: break chunks of them off in bulk, right, He's trying

1232
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: to sell them individually. Yet, he says, when you text me.

1233
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: If you ask me questions about price or brands or

1234
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: eyes or color or anything like that, I'm not going

1235
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: to answer you back. If you want to come see them,

1236
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: you're welcome to period, all of you. I love him

1237
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: so right off the bat, dude, I'm all about the

1238
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: turkey calls, the twelve gauge turkey choke, the two camel masks,

1239
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: which I want to say, if you've hundred with a

1240
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: turkey mask before you know, after about one season of

1241
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: turkey hunting, that mask smells to high heaven. I was

1242
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: gonna say, isn't it like you're like your coffee breath

1243
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: and like hot germs like riddle and there're just like

1244
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: breathing steam into them all morning, aren't you. Yeah? But

1245
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's so great and then it gets

1246
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: better at the end. Included in that package for thirty

1247
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: eight dollars is a pistol holster. Right now, I guess

1248
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: that when you're turkey hunting, you can't keep the pistol

1249
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: with you to shoot a snake. Everybody, but I'm I

1250
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: want to hear his explanation as to how the pistol holster.

1251
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: That's the package I want, and I'm offering up right

1252
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: now to you, sir, a mint condition Kobe Bryant. He's

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01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: actually holding the Kobe Bryant cards right and as as

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Speaker 1: we're about to learn that might take the whole pile,

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Speaker 1: that might take, he might give you the house and

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Speaker 1: um yeah, but he's also he's also open to trades, right,

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Speaker 1: so there's no cash on hand, no problem, he says,

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: I might be open to some trades. I like basketball cards. Bang,

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Speaker 1: there you go, you're ready. I like basketball cards, firearms,

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Speaker 1: ball cards, depending on what they are, A nice crossbow

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Speaker 1: and then it all caps again. Big eleven foot polls

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Speaker 1: with Abu Garcia sixty hundreds, boys four and girls one,

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Speaker 1: toys depends maybe household stuff, nice home CD played loud,

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Speaker 1: big smart TV. Stuff to keep beat alive, unused cast

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Speaker 1: nets or no holes. This dude needs to be on

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Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. Bra is an interview. This this is

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Speaker 1: your guy right here, man. I mean it sounds like

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Speaker 1: he is all about some big catfish catch into the

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Speaker 1: big eleven foot poles, big eleven foot poles, cat fishing equipment.

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Speaker 1: It's like, obviously you're a cat guy, man, Why are

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Speaker 1: you selling that? Um? I wish I live close by

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Speaker 1: because I'd swing in. If anybody listening near Fairbore, Ohio

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01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: pops into rummage around in this tidal wave of tackle,

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Speaker 1: let us know what you find and how it works out.

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Speaker 1: It seems like one of those deals where there's like

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Speaker 1: a gem or two hiding among all those South Bend

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Speaker 1: pistol grip rods, you know what I mean? Maybe or

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: maybe not, I don't know. Remember if you find some wild,

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Speaker 1: wacky or ridiculous fishing related wears on your favorite online

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Speaker 1: classified site, fire that link to bent at the Meat

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Speaker 1: Eater dot com and if we use it, I'll stick you.

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Speaker 1: So that's it for this week. Remember if someone gets

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Speaker 1: you a fly shot at a seven pound mako, it's

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Speaker 1: worth putting down the wine and cheese for a hot sec.

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Speaker 1: I'm always open to trading my ball all cards for

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Speaker 1: gift cards to Louisiana Dakary shacks. Even terrible fishing is

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: better than the best power point presentation. If you ever

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01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: see Jared serene on the water and he calls you achiev,

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Speaker 1: oh now you know why? Yeah, shout out to Uncle

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Speaker 1: Wimpy for the glification, you know, bringing a little history

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Speaker 1: into it. I appreciate it. Uh. If y'all are interested,

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Speaker 1: go on YouTube type in outside the Levies and not

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01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: people give you a link YouTube duck up. No, go

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: on YouTube type in outside the Levies. See next time

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Speaker 1: we're having Uncle Wimpy on the show Man. But I'm

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Speaker 1: so glad you could hang out with us. Um find

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Speaker 1: Jared on Instagram outside the Levies there. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: subscribe to outside the Levies YouTube channel. You will not

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Speaker 1: be disappointed, and hopefully we get to film some more

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Speaker 1: stuff together in the near future. It's been a while,

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Speaker 1: don't forget. I've always got eyes on those degenerate Angler

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Speaker 1: and Bent podcast hashtags, and uh, I'm always coming the emails.

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Speaker 1: We get it Bent at the metator dot com looking

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Speaker 1: for the next sale Ben item bar nomination, awkward photo

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01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: and voice memo from you guys. If I use anything

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: you send in any way, shape or four, you'll get

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Speaker 1: a thing or two in the mail for me. But

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: when you text me, if you ask me any questions

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01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: about price or brands or size or color or anything

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: like that, I'm not going to answer you back. No

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01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: tire characters, man, that's you know. I don't blame him

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Speaker 1: like you can get in some texts when you post

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Speaker 1: stuff for sale online bro