WEBVTT - Part Two: Witches & Vampires in Folklore

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to Cool People. Did Cool Stuff, your

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<v Speaker 2>weekly reminder that vampires and witches are entertaining things to

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<v Speaker 2>occasionally do episodes about in November, which Margaret claims is

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<v Speaker 2>still part of Spooky Times.

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<v Speaker 1>They drank blood, that's cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all the cool people drink blood, including our guest

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<v Speaker 2>just A Fiorentini. How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I don't think i've ever I've never had blood,

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<v Speaker 1>but if I were to have blood gross. No. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a blood sausage and that's actually pretty gross but

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<v Speaker 1>also good in a way. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I cannot handle the idea of blood food. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>aware that it exists. I'm even when I was like sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to go like visit family in Ireland and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, none of this is food. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>vegan yet, but like all of the like blood pudding,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, those are not words that belong in same.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Let alone. Yeah, and I mean I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean at least you're eating all of the animal, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, that's true or the person. Oh sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something very Indiana Jones about like drinking blood. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why. I feel like, if and

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<v Speaker 1>when I become vegan, I won't watch like all the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, slaughter house stuff. I'll just watch like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Temple of Doom and be like, see, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't drink or eat monkey brains anyway. Vampires did cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also have problems with exoticism, much like Indiana Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, oh, big time, especially that movie, the second one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so okay. Normally this is a history podcast

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<v Speaker 2>where I talk about history, and this week it is

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<v Speaker 2>a folklore podcast where I talk about folklore. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to episode one of this week on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>you have learned me talk about how I think that

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<v Speaker 2>these things are related history in folklore and how our

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<v Speaker 2>understandings of things transition. On Monday, we talked about witches,

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<v Speaker 2>but for some weird reason, some of the witches were

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<v Speaker 2>like showing up at windows at night? Have you what

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<v Speaker 2>do you know about vampires? Like history, vampires stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Very little, not enough. I think I get it. It

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with some kind of like you know, xenophobic,

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<v Speaker 1>build the wall higher type, you know, keep out the invaders.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm too dumb, to know around what particular migration

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<v Speaker 1>or what particular you know, event in history.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's interesting that when I think of the political

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<v Speaker 2>ramifications of vampires, is actually a little different from that.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is now completely unscripted, so I'm a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit just.

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<v Speaker 1>Vamp, you know, vampire vamp for the vampires.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no one's seen me in daylight. The sun's behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>and this I record this or is it? So vampires

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<v Speaker 2>myths go back everywhere, like all over the world. There's

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<v Speaker 2>like the idea of like the unquiet dead. There's like

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<v Speaker 2>people who like die and aren't dead and like and

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<v Speaker 2>there's all of these things, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>like different ideas of where this comes from. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>two main like science things that people think is either

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<v Speaker 2>people accidentally premature burying people right like you're like I

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<v Speaker 2>heard knocking in the graveyard and you go and you

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<v Speaker 2>dig it up, and there's like scratch marks on the

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<v Speaker 2>tomb because you buried someone who was alive because you

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<v Speaker 2>all weren't good at figuring out someone was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>That is like one of the elements, And then when

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<v Speaker 2>the other ones is that sort of a lack of

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<v Speaker 2>understanding about how bodies decompose and how like like nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>century you start getting vampires that are like pale and

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<v Speaker 2>like gaunt. But before that vampires were actually like lush.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say dark skinned, I don't mean in

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<v Speaker 2>annicity way, I mean like in this like color in

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<v Speaker 2>your cheeks way.

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<v Speaker 1>Like zombie dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally and plump. And what it was probably is

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<v Speaker 2>that like sometimes as bodies decomposed, they like do weird

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<v Speaker 2>shit and you can look kind of well preserved if

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<v Speaker 2>you're like in a very hermetically sealed tomb. And people

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<v Speaker 2>were like just learning new embalming shit, and there's like

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<v Speaker 2>all these reasons why. Like basically people will be like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go dig up that grave because we think they're

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<v Speaker 2>a vampire. And then you'd be like, aha, they're a vampire.

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<v Speaker 2>Their cheeks are rosy, you know, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just like ew. Decomposing bodies are gross. Must be

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire, Like, no, they're just gross. Yeah, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>bloating phase. I've seen for my for you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>work I've done as a journalist, I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of dead bodies and how they decompose it. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to a body farm, whoa they study it. Yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and it's wild. There was a flash flood while

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<v Speaker 1>we were there, so we were stuck on the body farm

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<v Speaker 1>because of the flash flood.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild times, and so the dead rose from the grave

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<v Speaker 2>and floated around.

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<v Speaker 1>They straight up did They did not. However, this is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to plant place bodies. This is like forensic

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<v Speaker 1>and now you know students and they used to place

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<v Speaker 1>bodies as soon as they got them donated, which is

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<v Speaker 1>such a you know, you can donate your body to science.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really whatever. Whatever, it's great. But then one time

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<v Speaker 1>they got a body donation on Halloween and they went

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<v Speaker 1>out into the field and had to place this body,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess the students were so spooked they were

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<v Speaker 1>like nope, And so they invested in a refrigerator and

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<v Speaker 1>they invested in a little bit of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a way to preserve the body for like a day

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<v Speaker 1>or two until it was light out and not scary

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<v Speaker 1>as shit to like place a body next to a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of other dead bodies in a fucking field. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kudos to that university.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a million years ago, I was someone invited me

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<v Speaker 2>on a sort of a date. They were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go do witchy shit in the graveyard on Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, ha ha, that's a euphemism, right, No, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I went to witchy shit in this graveyard

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<v Speaker 1>was a real.

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<v Speaker 2>Graveyard, and so I so I go and they're not there,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it was this is like kind of before

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<v Speaker 2>cell phones were like good and like god no they

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<v Speaker 2>had like there have been a little bit of rain,

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<v Speaker 2>so they had called it off. And so I just

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<v Speaker 2>spent an hour at like midnight on Halloween walking around

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<v Speaker 2>this graveyard. And it was a really good moment of

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<v Speaker 2>like being like I'm not as afraid as I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been. You know, mostly I was like bummed, right

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<v Speaker 2>because I got stood up, right, But yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>remember walking around that graveyard and being like, oh I

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<v Speaker 2>can handle this, this is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally scared of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as I'm completely scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got ghosted. I'm not ghost yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That was like the next day before I heard

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<v Speaker 2>from her that anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Okay, if you're listening, if you're listening whatever, you

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<v Speaker 2>never apologized, Are.

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<v Speaker 1>You kidding me? Standing you up in a literal graveyard

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<v Speaker 1>on Halloween? Yeah? Fuck that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Fuck that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mad for you. However, many years ago this was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like twenty years ago. No man, Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>vampires okay, so vampires started off more okay, vampires are

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world. The main style of vampire that's

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<v Speaker 2>in Western media kind of comes from Eastern Europe and

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<v Speaker 2>goes back thousands of years and then really starts hitting

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<v Speaker 2>like Western Europe more like a one hundred two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>years ago and in the middle of the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 2>Get all the vampire novels. The first actual one was

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<v Speaker 2>a lesbian vampire novel called Carmela. Dracula is the quintessential

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<v Speaker 2>one that came later, but it wasn't you start getting

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<v Speaker 2>all of these stories of vampires as like the aristocracy

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<v Speaker 2>who are drinking the blood of the working class, right

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<v Speaker 2>m And then you start and then it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>moved to the new aristocracy of like bankers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I expect it ties into anti Semitism somehow. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not currently aware of how it does, but I'm certain

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<v Speaker 2>I'm certain that I has been used at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>And communism, right doesn't at some point or is that

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<v Speaker 1>just James Bond?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's they have communist empires yeah, I bet yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And so the older vampires instead of being like these aristocrats,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of like some random dead guy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>who's not dead, who's killing people. And so there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the same stuff like fear of crosses,

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<v Speaker 2>garlic can't cross, running water. Oh, one of the witches

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<v Speaker 2>things I forgot to bring up. There's all of these

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<v Speaker 2>things about witches traveling and like sailing and weird shit, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like the SIV thing that we were talking about before

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<v Speaker 2>in one of the episodes we did recently, So I

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<v Speaker 2>won't go over at too much at length. All of

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<v Speaker 2>these witches from Scotland supposedly sailed out in sieves to

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<v Speaker 2>go fuck up King James as he was like off

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<v Speaker 2>to sail to Denmark and like brought up storms and

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<v Speaker 2>then they all got slaughtered. All these witches got murdered

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<v Speaker 2>over this. And this is like real, not folklore. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the witchcraft probably wasn't real, but the King James murdered

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<v Speaker 2>them all absolutely was real. And they had just like

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<v Speaker 2>rebellious women, yeah, and they had like one of them

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<v Speaker 2>was like really good at healing and snuck out at night.

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<v Speaker 2>So then they were like everyone he knows a witch

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<v Speaker 2>and then actually about ten to fifteen percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>people I said this also the recent one. Ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent of people were killed a witchcraft in medieval

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<v Speaker 2>Europe were men. And because the word witch was not

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<v Speaker 2>actually inherently a gendered word until later, even though like

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<v Speaker 2>the witches versus wizards things comes later. It's just that

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<v Speaker 2>women were more likely to be witches because there's more misogyny,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because of the atominy, but because of misogyny. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But so vampires, okay, right, So witches would go around

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<v Speaker 2>and they'd sail in weird shit like sieves. They'd also

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<v Speaker 2>sail in eggshells, so a lot of cultures had like superstitions,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to destroy your eggshells so that like put

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<v Speaker 2>poke holes in them and stuff so that like witches

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<v Speaker 2>don't sail around in them. And it was how witches

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<v Speaker 2>could cross water. Right, It's kind of like when.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna say, you said, oh, yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you cut up the rings of a six pack

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<v Speaker 1>so that the sea turtles don't choke on them, as

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<v Speaker 1>if that would ever stop you know, yeah, all other

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<v Speaker 1>things killing sea turtles. Yeah, but yeah, you should poke

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<v Speaker 1>holes in your eggshells because you know, the witches are

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<v Speaker 1>going to use them as boats.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, which is funny though, because they can sail

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<v Speaker 2>in sieves, so I don't see how this is stopping them.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, maybe the witches eventually had that work around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they got so good at sailing and sieves. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't cross running water sometimes and so that's but

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't like eggshells, which is another vampire thing, because

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<v Speaker 2>they were all fucking blurry like witches and vampires.

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<v Speaker 1>And blurry like you couldn't really see them clearly when

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<v Speaker 1>you saw them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, just like the distinction between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the line of y yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So for example, the witch Girl story about the woman

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<v Speaker 2>showing up like a pestilence and knocking out the window

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<v Speaker 2>to kill a lot of the old vampire stories, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think any of the ones that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>read today. A lot of the old vampire stories that

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<v Speaker 2>are like it's funny. There's like folklore vampire stories and

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<v Speaker 2>making air quotes, and then there's like early literature vampire stories,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and there's like kind of a line between them.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of the early literature vampire stories will

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<v Speaker 2>talk about vampires like showing up at your window and

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<v Speaker 2>like scratching out and being like yo, let me, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to eat you, you know. Yeah, And so this

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<v Speaker 2>like person at the window to kill is a very

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<v Speaker 2>vampire thing that the witch girl was doing. And now

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do an inverse. We're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>a vampire who's doing a witch thing. Because this story

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like broke my head a little bit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very short, but the story is called the Vampire Bear.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is from Again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a very that's very Sharknado like megaladon to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen Cocaine Bear?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Yes, yes, Like I was just gonna say that

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<v Speaker 1>I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly, this is basically Cocaine Bear. And I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>liked Cocaine Bear, which surprised me that I enjoyed it, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, I can imagine, I mean, I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to get high and I'd like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no downside to watching Cocaine Bear. There's like

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<v Speaker 2>some dumb punk kids who like do the like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like eighties movies, Like punks are always like bad guys

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<v Speaker 2>with switchblades, but they're kind of nerds. Right, it has

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<v Speaker 2>like some of that in it. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the cocaine bear for from the nineteenth

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<v Speaker 1>century of Russia. Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And this is from a different book called Russian

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<v Speaker 2>folk Tales. Once there were three sisters. One summer, they

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<v Speaker 2>went into the woods to pick berries. The older sister

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<v Speaker 2>got lost. She wandered around the forest until she came

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<v Speaker 2>upon a hut on chicken legs. And this is that's

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<v Speaker 2>bobbie Ga. This is a Bobbyaga story again, and only

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<v Speaker 2>it's a vampire story. And that's why I'm like reading it. Right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>She entered the hut and started calling for her two sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is in this forest, who is in the woods?

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<v Speaker 2>Come into this hut to spend the night. I am

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<v Speaker 2>in the forest, and I am in the woods. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>come to spend a night with you, replied a huge

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<v Speaker 2>bear as he entered the hut, high on cocaine. I

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<v Speaker 2>added that part. Don't be afraid of me, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Climb into my right ear and come out of the

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<v Speaker 2>left ear, and we will have whatever we wish for.

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<v Speaker 1>Oo.

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<v Speaker 2>So the girl climbed into the bear's right ear and

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<v Speaker 2>came out the left one, and after that she found

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<v Speaker 2>several keys in her pocket. Now cook the dinner, commanded

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<v Speaker 2>the bear. She cooked the meal and they sat down

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<v Speaker 2>to eat. Suddenly a mouse appeared and asked the girl

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<v Speaker 2>for some porridge. Hit that mouse on the forehead, said

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<v Speaker 2>the Oh my god, this is what you predicted. Hit

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<v Speaker 2>that mouse on the forehead, said the bear. The girl

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<v Speaker 2>did best she was told. Now order the bear make

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<v Speaker 2>me a bed. Put together a row of firewood, a

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<v Speaker 2>row of stones, A mortar will be my pillow, and

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<v Speaker 2>a millstone I'll use as a blanket.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, slow down, sod on, so down. These instructions are

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<v Speaker 1>wild for her. I know, she's like, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a pen? Can I just write? Okay? So millstone?

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<v Speaker 2>And what was that? Yeah? If we if we can't

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<v Speaker 2>find a mortar, can we use something Else's your pillow?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would have never survived like a folklore tale,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just because I'm terrible with instructions and they

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<v Speaker 1>always give them, and they give them really quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's always once. You can't be like could you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>I get just slowly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Could you message, like text to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Could you text me? Because I'm I'm not gonna remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>because like, once I get the millstone, like I've already

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten about Like what was it supposed to bop a

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<v Speaker 1>mouse on the head? Are you like like little Buddy

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<v Speaker 1>fufu or some shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When the bed was ready and the bear went

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep, however, the girl was to stay awake all

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<v Speaker 2>night and to run around the room making noise with

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<v Speaker 2>the keys. She started running around the room and making

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<v Speaker 2>the noise. The bear slept awhile and then took the

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<v Speaker 2>millstone and threw it at the girl. She is still alive,

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<v Speaker 2>squeaked the little mouse. The bear threw the mortar at

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<v Speaker 2>the girl. Still alive, The mouse said again, Oh god, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just he'sus. This story is a little darker. Still alive,

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<v Speaker 2>said the mouse again. A piece of firewood followed the mortar.

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<v Speaker 2>The bear killed the girl and sucked out all of

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<v Speaker 2>her blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh.

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<v Speaker 2>The next time, the remaining two sisters went into the

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<v Speaker 2>woods to pick berries. The middle sister got lost. She

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<v Speaker 2>had the same ill fate as her older sister. The

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<v Speaker 2>youngest sister, a little fool, decided to go into the

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<v Speaker 2>forest by herself to look for her two lost sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon she came upon the same hut. The bear ordered

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<v Speaker 2>her to cook dinner and to make him a bed.

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<v Speaker 2>After they sat down to eat, the same mouse came out,

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<v Speaker 2>who asked for porridge. The girl gave the mouse some porridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is that talking to you, the bear asked her,

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<v Speaker 2>no one, The girl replied quickly. When the bear went

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<v Speaker 2>to bed, the mouse offered to run around so she

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<v Speaker 2>would not have to. When the bear threw the millstone,

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<v Speaker 2>the mouse cried, she's dead. The bear jumped out of

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<v Speaker 2>his bed and started looking for the dead body. When

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<v Speaker 2>he could not find the dead girl in the hut,

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<v Speaker 2>he realized he had been tricked and ran out into

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<v Speaker 2>the woods to look for her. At that time, the

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<v Speaker 2>mouse told the girl to come out of her hiding place,

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<v Speaker 2>gave her the keys, and said that they would make

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<v Speaker 2>any wish come true. The mouse also told the girl

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<v Speaker 2>what had happened to her older sisters and saw that

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<v Speaker 2>the girl got home safely.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, Yeah, I like this mouse. Uh, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>like this mouse. The mouse is like I've seen too much,

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<v Speaker 1>too much bloodshed. But also yeah, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is we need to be continued because her wish should

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<v Speaker 1>be let her sisters come back alive. But maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, And like it's such a like

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't really do anything functionally different than her sister's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think the moral of this story is like

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<v Speaker 2>life sucks and vampire bears are in the woods and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to fucking kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is not It is not very clear. There's nothing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really just don't go to the woods. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>go picking berries, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, it's a bad idea because berries will mean

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<v Speaker 2>a bear is going to fucking eat you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, also this is interesting like in terms of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at what point, like what was our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>to like the woods, the forest, the animals. They're all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of creepy and evil and mean in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And also like I don't know, maybe this is just

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<v Speaker 1>the anti capitalist of me being like this is all

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<v Speaker 1>very like very private property. Then, like you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>get off my lawn, Like the vampire is the one

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<v Speaker 1>knocking at your door, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, the uh oh that's true. Oh shit, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying earlier. Yeah, and like the

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<v Speaker 2>witches and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like the like the March of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, industrial human even though this is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit before that or a lot before that, but it's like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>settling the woods, creation of private property, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be very afraid of anything that wants to come

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<v Speaker 1>in or any creatures that want your food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, And like even the historic witch trials tie

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<v Speaker 2>into the enclosure of the commons, and they tie into

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<v Speaker 2>like just like finding the people revolting against the new

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<v Speaker 2>modern order and then fucking killing them.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You know also going to get fucking killed you, dear listener,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't run out right now and buy seven

0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>of these products and then send it to seven of

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<v Speaker 2>your friends, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be visited by a vampire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, vampire bear even, which is weirder, Like, imagine kill

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<v Speaker 2>a bear, it kills you, but just to drink your blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking weird, that's ridiculous. Yeah, you're like, I have all

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<v Speaker 2>this flesh. Yeah, I guess that's the mouse. The mouse

0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.119
<v Speaker 2>gets them too, just like you get some sweet, sweet

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<v Speaker 2>deals from these ads. And we're back. Okay, so this

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<v Speaker 2>next story even shorter this one. I definitely like I've

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<v Speaker 2>been just like picking up all my like fairy tale

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<v Speaker 2>books that I've been accumulating for a while and looking

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<v Speaker 2>through the the the subject matter, you know, and getting

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<v Speaker 2>really excited about them. This one's called Buckets of Blood

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a nineteenth century good God, Russian Songs of

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<v Speaker 2>the Russian People is the name of the book that

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<v Speaker 2>this is from Buckets of Blood. Yeah, because they were

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<v Speaker 2>a metal band. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling my friend about this and she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I really like this horror movie called Buckets of Blood.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, of course you do, or like

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<v Speaker 2>Bucket of Blood or something. But there's a history to

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<v Speaker 2>Buckets of Blood, a long pedigree of Buckets of Blood.

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<v Speaker 2>So this story, a peasant was driving past a graveyard

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<v Speaker 2>after it had grown dark. After him came running a

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<v Speaker 2>stranger dressed in a red shirt and a new jacket,

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<v Speaker 2>who cried, stop, take me as your companion.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm cool. I don't really want a friend, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a loner. Peasant.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you actually would have survived these stories better

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<v Speaker 2>than you think. Pray, take a seat, the peasant offered.

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<v Speaker 2>They enter a village, drive up to this and that house,

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<v Speaker 2>though the gates are wide open, yet the stranger says,

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<v Speaker 2>shut tight, for on those gates crosses have been branded.

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<v Speaker 2>They drive to the very last house. The gates are barred,

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<v Speaker 2>and from them hands a padlock weighing a score of pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is no cross there, and the gates open

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<v Speaker 2>of their own accord. They go into the house. There

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<v Speaker 2>on the bench lie two sleepers, an old man and

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<v Speaker 2>a lad. The stranger takes the pale content warning for horror,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. The stranger takes a pail, places it near

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<v Speaker 2>the youth, and strikes him on the back. Immediately, the

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<v Speaker 2>back opens and forth flows rosy blood. The stranger fills

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<v Speaker 2>the pail full and then drinks it dry. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>fills another pail with blood from the old man, slakes

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<v Speaker 2>his brutal thirst, and says to the peasant, it begins

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<v Speaker 2>to grow light. Let us go back to my dwelling.

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<v Speaker 2>In a twinkling, they found themselves at the graveyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you live here? Oh I get it now. That explains.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like drinking that blah thing. Anyway, I'm just gonna go.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine like when you're like, hey, can you

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<v Speaker 2>just take me with you? And you're like yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh I can't go in there as

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<v Speaker 2>a cross. I can't go in there. Oh I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>magically open this door and then just like like the

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<v Speaker 2>peasant doesn't whatever, I'll just finish the story. The vampire

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<v Speaker 2>would have clasped the peasant in his arms, but luckily

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<v Speaker 2>for him, the cocks began to crow and the corpse disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>The next morning when folks came and looked, the old

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<v Speaker 2>man and the lad were dead. That's the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh where's the peasant? Peasant got off?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he gets off because the sun rises and

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<v Speaker 2>the corpse. But in this one, I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>sun like destroys the vampire. I think it just like

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<v Speaker 2>he just like disappears, right, you know, Yeah, but at

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<v Speaker 2>no point does it. And I just love the like

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<v Speaker 2>at the end being like and then the man and

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<v Speaker 2>the lad were Yeah, like we get that they took

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<v Speaker 2>a bucket of their blood. I was pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>They were dead after beating them with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wait, they got beat with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how do they? How didn't they He

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<v Speaker 1>struck him on the back and opened Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's just like like with a blade. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the sparsest story that has ever been told there's

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<v Speaker 2>like sentences. I know. Well that's what's so interesting too, right, Yeah,

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 2>you got your vampire who's just going around blood letting

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<v Speaker 2>people with a knife.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably yeah yeah. Also, like why since when did vampires

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<v Speaker 1>get associated with bats? And do bads drink blood?

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Some bats do but not most. And I don't know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that a lot of the vampire stuff around,

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<v Speaker 2>like they can turn in the mist, they can turn

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<v Speaker 2>into different insects, they can turn all this different shade

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<v Speaker 2>bats and stuff. I think that starts coming around. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually don't know. I want to make a guess, but

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be an information.

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<v Speaker 1>How much you know about spiders, Margaret?

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<v Speaker 2>I can count their legs on my fingers. Seven legs.

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was No, it's eight had I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, I can't ask you this question. If anyone

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 1>knows about spiders, reach out to me at Franni Feo

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>because I've got a question, which is when you see

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<v Speaker 1>the big honking spiders, which there have been so many

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in LA because it's been really it had been really rainy.

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Like when those guys have babies, do they do the

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<v Speaker 1>babies all grow to be the same honking size or

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>is it just because that spider made a tight web

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>with all and got all of the flies? You know

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.439
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It's like a dog where it's like, oh,

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this breed grows to like twenty five pounds. Is every

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>breed of spider? I asked my husband and he's like,

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'm having these really nerdy spider questions.

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know who I would ask, and it

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 2>is actually someone who listens to this podcast regularly. And

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 2>if you are my friend, I'm not going to name you,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you are my friend who tells me weird

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 2>nerdy stuff about animals and we message about it, he

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>reach out to both of us about your spiders. My

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 2>money is that they all grow to that that size,

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's like a breed thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucking because like, like my money is on the ladder.

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>My money is on the idea that no, the one

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>who gets like has the good spot with all the

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>flies and gets really swollen, That's that's just why they're

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<v Speaker 1>that big.

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 2>But think about like people, right, like your diet absolutely

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.239
<v Speaker 2>changes how big you get. But it's like a lot

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>of it's genetic too.

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm scared, but okay, we can time it. And

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that's for the next episode is spiders.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to live in this black a frame cabin

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that I built in the woods, beautiful, and for a

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>while I had these two they're called garden spiders, and

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 2>they're a US South and they're fucking huge and scary

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and they've got like sharp pokey legs and they're bright

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 2>yellow and they're cool but they're scary as hell and

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 2>they're like, they're seriously the most evil looking spider. I

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>think they're cool. And they made webs on the two

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 2>windows right next to my door. Oh, and I was

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>terrified to oust them, you know, because they're on the outside.

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 2>And my rule was anything's allowed on the outside of

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 2>my house, but nothing's a lot on the inside of

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 2>my house unless like right, and so like I was

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 2>afraid to oust them.

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>You're still a vegan if you oust them on the inside,

0:25:58.760 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>but not on the outside.

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it was like it was like it

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>seemed like bad, bad idea to go to war with

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the woods while I lived there. And yeah, but every

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 2>night when I would walk home at night up to

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>my cabin in the woods and pretend like I'm not

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 2>scared of that sort of thing. I would make sure

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 2>that I could see both spiders before I would open

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>the door, and then I think they I think they

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 2>got hit by birds eventually, but like first one then

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>the other disappeared, and like, it took me several days

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>to be okay with the fact that I couldn't see them.

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, Well, that's like when you see a spider

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in the shower and you're like, as long as I

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>have eyes on it, I can keep on, you know,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>soaping up. But then you get the soap in your eyes.

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to close your eyes and then you open

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>them up. He's gone. Anyway, Do a separate spider podcast.

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool spiders who scared us? That'll be the name

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>of the podcast. So got another vampire story for you,

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 2>please please. This one's called the Soldier in the Vampire

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and it is from one of the earlier sources, the

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Ralston's Russian folktales. A certain soldier was allowed to go

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>home on furlough. Well, he walked and walked, and after

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>a time he began to draw near to his native village.

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Not far off from that village lived a miller in

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>his mill. In old times, the soldier had been very

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>intimate with him. Why shouldn't he go and see his friend?

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 2>He went, I love the way. That translation sounds like yeah.

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 2>The miller received him cordially and at once brought out liquor,

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and the two began drinking and chattering about their ways

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and doings. All this took place towards nightfall, and the

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>soldiers stopped so long at the miller's that it grew

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>quite dark. When he proposed to start for his village,

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>his host exclaimed, spend the night here, trooper. It's very

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>late now, and perhaps you might run into mischief. What

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>a good way to say, like something terrible is going

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>to like anyway.

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or like get someone to spend the night.

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right. That worked on me once. I was like

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>on a date and I was like, I go home,

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>and my date looked at me and was like, do

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you believe in slender Man? I was like, God damn it,

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>And this is when I lived in that fucking cabin

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>in the woods in the middle of nowhere.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>That's coersive, that's all good, and this is second bad

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>date behavior for Margaret.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>She was very respectful. It was totally fine. If you're listening.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>That was a totally fine thing to do, slender Man,

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>you were like, yeah, anyway, how so about the mischief

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 2>God is punishing us? A terrible warlock has died among us,

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and by night he rises from his grave, wanders through

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the village, and does such things as brings bring fear

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>upon the very boldest. How could even you help but

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>be afraid of him? Basically, that sounds like a challenge,

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>I know. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, like not a bit

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>of it. A soldier, as a man who belongs to

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the crown and crown property cannot be drowned in water

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>nor burnt in fire.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm tremendously anxious to see my people as soon

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>as possible. Off. He set his road, lay in front

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 2>of a graveyard. On one of the graves, he saw

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 2>a great fire blazing. What's that, thinks he let's have

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>a look. It was just very not you from everything

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I've heard of your.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, no, in this case, I've like learned

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>my lesson. I'm gonna go into it. Let's go right

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>right for the fire.

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah. Most of the people are surviving these stories, well,

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>most of the protagonists are surviving these stories. Not the

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>random lad. Anyway, it's true. When he drew near, he

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 2>saw that the warlock was sitting by the fire sewing boots. Hail, brother,

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 2>calls out the soldier. The warlock looked up and said,

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>what have you come here for?

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see what you're doing. The warlock threw

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>his work aside and invited the soldier to a wedding.

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Come along, brother, I know now it's all like a

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 2>surreal I have a plus one.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Did you want to call withather? That's why I'm making

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>these boots. They're for you.

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, your size wedding. Come along, brother, says he.

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's enjoy ourselves. There's a wedding going on in the village.

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Come along, says the soldier. They came to where the

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>wedding was. There they were given drink and treated with

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the utmost hospitality. The warlock drank and drank, reveled and reveled.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Then he grew angry. He chased all the guests and

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>relatives out of the house, threw the wedded pair into

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>a slumber, took out two files in an all, pierced

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the hands of the bride and bridegroom with the awl

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>and began drawing off their blood.

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, warlock, that's just not a way to

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>like treat your get I mean, you're.

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a wedding crasher move.

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, it is a super wedding crasher move.

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like that vampire movie, the Wedding Crashers.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>It is. I'm looking up warlocks as on Google images,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and like they've got like staffs and they seem kind

0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of like it's like masks, and.

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like a way of saying, which only it's a

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>boy is the the more icye boy?

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Witch?

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seventeenth or eighteenth century start saying the distinction in English,

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I think between a witch and a warlock. But before

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>that it was all witches all the way down. Well,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>they went off on the way. The soldiers said, tell me,

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>why did you draw off their blood into those vials?

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:29.479
<v Speaker 1>You're still hanging with them. You know, soldiers are not smart.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say they're not afraid, but not yeah, yeah,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily, like strategic planners.

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Not firing on all four cylinders. No, Well, in order

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>that the bride and bridegroom might die tomorrow morning, no

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>one will be able to wake them. I alone know

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 2>how to bring them back to life. How is that managed?

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 2>The bride and bridegroom must have cuts made in their heels,

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>and some of their own blood must be then poured

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 2>back into the wounds. I've got the bridegroom's blood stowed

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>away in my right hand pocket, the bride's in my left.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>The soldier listened to this without letting a single word

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 2>escape him. Then the warlock began boasting again. Whatever I wish,

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>he says, he that I can do. I suppose it's

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>quite impossible to get the better of you, says the soldier.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Why impossible? If anyone were to make a pire of

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 2>aspen boughs, a hundred loads of them, and were to

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 2>burn me in that pire, then he'd be able to

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>get the better of me. Only he'd have to look

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 2>out sharp and burning me. For snakes and worms and

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>different kinds of reptiles would creep out of my inside,

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and crows and magpies and jack dolls would come flying up.

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>All these must be caught and flung on the pire.

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>If so much as a single maggot were to escape,

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>then there be no help for it. In that maggot

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I should slip away.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, I like this. I like when the villain reveals

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>how to like kill themselves.

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, totally, how difficult it is, no exactually

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 2>an event, you're like, oh, actually this soldiers being kind

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>of clever.

0:32:58.440 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>The soldier listened to all of and did not forget it.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>He and the warlock talked and talked, and at last

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 2>they arrived at the grave. Well, brother, said the warlock.

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Now I'll tear you into pieces. Otherwise you'd be telling all.

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>This okay, good, all right, right right, so yes, yeah,

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>who I'm oh, I like this story. That is only

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>my favorite, this so one.

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I like this one. You know what else? I like

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>saving money on stuff, buy a new car that'll save

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the environment. Here's ads and we're back so that you

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>know obviously where we last left. The Warlock was like,

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tear you pieces. What are you talking about?

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Don't deceive yourself. I serve God and the Emperor. The

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Warlock gnashed his teeth, howled aloud in that I know.

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I don't give a shit, but he does

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>give a shit. He howled aloud and sprang at the soldier,

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>who drew his soul and began laying about him. With

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>sweeping blows. They struggled and struggled. The soldier was all

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>but at the end of his strength. Ah thinks he

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm a lost man and all for nothing. Suddenly the

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>cocks began to crow. The warlock fell lifeless to the ground.

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>The soldier took files of blood out of the warlock's

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>pockets and went on to the house of his own people.

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>When he got there and had exchanged greetings with his relatives,

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 2>they said, did you see any disturbance, soldier, No, I

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>saw none there. Now, why, we've a terrible piece of

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>work going on in the village. A warlock has taken

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>to haunting it. After talking a while, they lay down

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>to sleep. Next morning, the soldier awoke and began asking,

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm told you've got a wedding going on somewhere here.

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 2>There was a wedding in the house of a rich moujique,

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 2>which is a Russian peasant, replied his relatives. But the

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 2>bride and bridegroom have died this very night from what

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>nobody knows. Where does this mogique live. They showed him

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 2>the house thither he went without speaking a word. When

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>he got.

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Thither, we got to bring thither back, and also the

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>soldiers doing an incredible job of lying, like, no, you

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 1>know what?

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Where war who? How could I defeat you? I would

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 2>never do such a thing.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I like Okay, I

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>take it back what I said about soldiers. I like

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>him so far.

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll see, we'll see he's thinking things through thither He

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 2>went without speaking a word. When he got there, he

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>found the whole family in tears. What are you mourning about?

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Says he? Such and such as the state of things?

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Soldiers say they I can bring your young people back

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>to life again. What will you give me if I do?

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Take what you like, even if it were half of

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 2>what we've got. So the soldier did as the warlock

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>had instructed him and brought the young people back to life.

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Instead of weeping, there began to be great happiness and rejoicing.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>The soldier was hospitably treated and well rewarded. Then left

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 2>about face okay, I don't know. Off he marched to

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the star Usta, which is the head of a Russian village,

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 2>which I totally knew and totally didn't interrupt the podcast

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 2>for me to look up.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And then I said, Star usta.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which was good, very Russian. This is you got

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 2>a gun to hit your head. I think you could

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it, yes, quite did there hither and with

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 1>going to I think you need to read this all

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in just a monotone Russian accent.

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>And I guess much scarier. I know what, I really

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I can't. And told him to call his the peasants. No,

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't work.

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm completely accent blind to it's it's it's not great.

0:36:57.920 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that was you make it.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, And told him to call the peasants together

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 2>and get ready a hundred loads of aspen wood. Well,

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 2>they took the wood into the graveyard, dragged the warlock

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 2>out of his grave, placed him on the pire, and

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 2>set it alight. The people all standing around in a

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 2>circle with brooms, shovels, and fire irons. The pyre began

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>became wrapped in flames. The warlock began to burn. His

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 2>corpse burst, and out of it crept snakes, worms, and

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of reptiles, probably garden spiders for sure, And

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 2>up came flying crows, magpies, and jack dolls. I totally

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't just include the story because his magpies in it.

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, what are magpies again?

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 2>They're like crows, but black and white. And it's also

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 2>a nickname for.

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I knew that it was your nickname. Yeah, but now

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I have to see what they look like, black and

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>white crows.

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're really pretty. They are also known for collecting

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>shiny objects and being like thieves and sort of annoying.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And also they used like omens a lot.

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, look at that.

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Magpies are fucking cool. The peasants knocked them down, poor magpies,

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and flung them into the fire, not allowing so much

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 2>as a single maggot to creep away. And so the

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 2>warlock was thoroughly consumed, and the soldier collected his ashes

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 2>and strode strewed them to the winds. From that time forth,

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>there was peace in the village. The soldier received the

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 2>thanks of the whole community. He stayed at home some time,

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 2>enjoying himself thoroughly. Then he went back to the Tsar's

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 2>service with money in his pocket. When he had served

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 2>his time, he retired from the army and began to

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 2>live at his ease.

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that.

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>He can't have a happily ever after until he finishes

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 2>his tsar's service, you know.

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. But first comes the czar. I

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>want to know about because this sort of reminds me

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of the ways in which vampires like bring Like in

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>an interview with the vampire, like I said, I watching again,

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh you you know, make a vampire by biting them

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and then killing them, like sucking their blood and killing them,

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>but you can bring them back to life by having

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>them like sucks some of your blood. So I feel

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>like all this, like it is very sexual, Like all

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the sort of exchange of fluids, sort of like giving

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>yourself giving the person who's dead a little bit of

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>their own blood feels like also a way to make

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a vampire. So I'm just like wondering. I mean, maybe

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>not because it's not the vampires. Well, I don't fucking

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing that's interesting about it is it

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>shows that it's like it all shifts in all these

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 2>different ways. Like this guy's called a vampire, but he's

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>also called a warlock, and he's just taking a vial

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 2>of their blood for magic. He hasn't even drank it,

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>but he has to be killed in a very vampire way.

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 2>He falls back into his coffin when he's when the

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 2>sun is up, like.

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the cocks, the cocks have been saving the day.

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they always always there saving the day. That's what

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>cock is.

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:58.959
<v Speaker 1>For, always save the day.

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>And we're adults, we get paid to talking to microphones.

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, no, I just like I find it. I

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 2>love the way he like dies, the like all the

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>animals bursting forth from him and all that stuff, you know. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's like it's all of these just different.

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>It's basically a way that a witch haunts. So this

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>is my episode where I accidentally figured out that witches

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>and vampires are more or less fitting the same niche

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of different stories.

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it kind of makes sense because it

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>is just nebulous. I mean, this is what myths and

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 1>folklore are. It's nothing is like real, it's just kind

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of symbolic. And so the yeah, the blurriness between them

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. But it's like what are they? Yeah,

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>what do they represent? More broadly? I don't know, Like

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, the vampires. It does seem like the vampires

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have more rules and they are sort of more like

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>accepted in society, whereas witches are these like massive outcasts.

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like I like which is more right for sure?

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>And then like you also get like some people I

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 2>think we're getting killed as vampires, but mostly people are

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 2>like desecrating bodies over vampism, right right, And like you know,

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>people would die and they would like we've ever seen

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the like sometimes they'll like disenter a coffin and there'll

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 2>be a sickle over the neck. So if the if

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the corpse moved, they would hit the sickle and like

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:25.479
<v Speaker 2>cut their eye.

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I just saw it. I just did a story on

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>like my podcast is like a random story that I

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>do about. Yeah, a child that was like I think

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in Poland who was like the skeleton was dug up

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and there I think there was a sickle or something

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>around its neck and it was chained to the coffin

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>because they thought clearly they thought it was possessed, which

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>is so scary. They're like, you know, he probably just

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to eat his vegetables. You know, what are

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you doing? That's freaky. But also maybe it was a

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.720
<v Speaker 1>bad seed, Maybe it was an evil child.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I would not have survived to adulthood if.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, but that's that's like it is weird. It

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.839
<v Speaker 1>it's all like like what do you actually believe is real?

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Is any of this real? Or ghosts reel or which

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>like I do think there's a difference between like the

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the world of the dying and the dead and like

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>witches in vampires, which seem a little too fantastical and

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit like, no, I think this is just

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like that's just like a foreigner who like moved to

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>the end of your block, who you like, don't know,

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 1>you've never talked to, and you're like making excuses for

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>why they're gonna come suck your blood or totally you know,

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>they have too many cats, it's the cat lady just

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>turned into the witch. Or they practice a different religion

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>or you know what whatever.

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Or they're like the healer, and then they don't fall

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 2>into a specific modern way that may like once like

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>medicine was masculinized and like scienceized that's totally a word,

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. Then you're like, oh, we got to get

0:42:57.960 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>rid of all these like wise women, right because they

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 2>do shit and you like, you know, you're killing your

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 2>your dulas, you're killing your abortion providers, you're killing, Like no,

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and like.

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we're I've never thought about which is

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in the context of reproductive health, and now I realize

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 1>they probably were all just like you live an abortion provider.

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is absolutely a huge part of it. And

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.280
<v Speaker 2>there's like a god which episode. We did an episode

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 2>a while ago about Italian women who like to poison

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 2>their husbands in the Renaissance and like a late medieval

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 2>era sick yeah, and it tied into this on It

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>was called the Magical Underground, and it was the like

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>your astrologer that you go to is also your therapist

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.439
<v Speaker 2>and is also your abortion provider, and is also when

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>your husband is an unrepentant piece of shit who keeps

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 2>fucking hurting you, she's gonna provide you poison and he's

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna die.

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And we're sorry. What were they called? Or they were

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>just astrologists? This is why not into astrology?

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like yeah, I can't, I honestly can't remember the

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 2>name enough the time I head. You know, you have

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Italian women and then there's also parts of France had

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 2>a Magical Underground also that had all this stuff going on.

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's also hard to piece apart because you had

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 2>all of these like tied into that where all these

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 2>like priests Catholic priests who were also doing all this

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 2>witchcraft shit and we're like performing black masses and stuff

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of as a grift. They were like, oh, you

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>can't get it up, Like let us do this weird

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>ceremony and we'll get you what you need.

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>And then also if you want to, congregation's gonna pray.

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if you have a if you need a

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 2>love potion, like don't worry, I've got this like oil

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>that I dripped over the corpse of saints, so and

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>so you know, right, and then so like you had

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 2>all these like witch fear things that were strike going

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 2>around and a lot of those ones were actually tied

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 2>into like yeah, there actually was a poisoner ring. It

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>was like killing all these people, but they all deserved it.

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 2>But over yeah, the witch trials totally politicize. I need to,

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 2>like probably I'll just do a whole episode on like

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 2>historical witches and the witch hunts and stuff. But it

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 2>makes me really sad because so many of the cool

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 2>people did cool stuff. Episodes are I talk about some

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 2>people who are kind of cool, and then the massive

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>system that existed to destroy all.

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Of them, right right, right right.

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's what.

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think early healers are really cool, you know,

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:29.760
<v Speaker 1>totally as you know, not so like sound anti vacts

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>about it, but yeah, like were who were the people

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that actually help folks? And how do they get with

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the dawn of like you're saying, the masculinization of medicine? Yeah,

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know. They they maybe weren't operating as

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>working as doctors. Yeah, they were working on preventative medicine.

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, people, there's a whole thing where Elizabeth the Tori

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 2>is like the also seen as like one of the

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 2>early like sort of vampire inspiration people. She was the

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>it's spelled Bathory but it's but Tori is another thing.

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I became a pedant about about it after doing an

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>episode about and and she was basically accused of like

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 2>running this like Castle of Horrors where she was like

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>bathing in girl's blood to stay young and shit like

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:20.320
<v Speaker 2>that right in Eastern Europe. But more and more modern

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 2>research implies that maybe she actually just like literally ran

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 2>a hospital and like taught girls healing and so it

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 2>was just all like people who wanted to cut her

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 2>out of inheritance and like some favors she owed, the

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 2>king like turned a witch hunt against her. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny because like, I'm really interested in both versions of

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<v Speaker 2>her story. I am interested in this like this healer

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<v Speaker 2>who's also the ruler of the realm, but who brings

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<v Speaker 2>in girls and teaches them, you know, how to how

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<v Speaker 2>to heal right, but also like I would watch the

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<v Speaker 2>shit out of like her as the like evil girl

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<v Speaker 2>boss who like bathes in blood whatever you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it is it is like

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said, I would watch the shit out

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<v Speaker 1>of because it does feel more like fiction, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really what is more real throughout time, like the

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>roles of women, the necessity for like a petty little

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<v Speaker 1>bitch to stay young, or the necessity to like teach

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<v Speaker 1>people how to perform abortions and survive when you are

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<v Speaker 1>having a miscarriage or you know, you're in an abusive relationship,

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>or you need help with a pregnancy. I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like all that stuff that makes way more sense totally

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, being like a Kardashian that's like I'm I'm murderous,

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<v Speaker 1>but I look good, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And it doesn't tie into the misogynst stories

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>that everyone wants to tell. But that's what I got

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<v Speaker 2>about witches and vampires, and I like these.

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Vampire There wasn't anything like, there was no blood sucking necessarily,

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>but blood did factor into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that was because I wanted to do the

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<v Speaker 2>Like vampire as folklore, it's compared to vampire in literature,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and like I will want day. I love

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 2>all of it. It's all weird shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And but what's isn't there there the symbiotic I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>don't like authors often kind of take from folklore or

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>totally like who's right, Like how here's Here's my question

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>is a dumb question, But you are a writer, so

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe like is this something that the person

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<v Speaker 1>who created like this book of Russian folk tales went around,

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>listened to them, someone wrote them down at some point

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>because they were just sort of tales that are told.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like that is the kind of thing that, as

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<v Speaker 2>I understand a lot of folklore is like it is

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<v Speaker 2>an oral tradition for a thousand years and then some

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>guy writes it down in the middle of the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 2>and then everyone puts his name on it and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the end. Like the Bible, yeah far or less. Yeah,

0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 2>it was a couple people wrote it, but yeah, it

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was one of the first times that that happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>like and yeah, like it is a set of myths

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 2>that teach certain political and like social norms, often contradictory

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:03.799
<v Speaker 2>if for' talking about the Bible and like and so yeah,

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 2>some guy went around and wrote down all these Russian

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 2>stories and so you get this encapsulation of them. And

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 2>that's why they have so many overlaps with like the

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 2>sieve or the chicken leg hud or the you know

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 2>this or that detail, right, is because like they're all

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 2>just mutating as.

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<v Speaker 1>They go right, right, right, And what do we think

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<v Speaker 1>the sieve means?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it is a reference to

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<v Speaker 2>an impossible task and like a proof of magic combined

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 2>with a little bit of that riddle vibe, the like

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<v Speaker 2>only someone who can bring me a torch that is

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>never lit or I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 2>yeah for sure. Like but then again, why does that

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:45.839
<v Speaker 2>tie into like but that seems so so you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the impossible task and then you've got the I fucking

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 2>sail in it, and those are so different, right, and

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 2>so in some ways it's like a flex if you're

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>sailing in a sieve. That's the best I got. I

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<v Speaker 2>I read a couple of miles on witches and sieves,

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<v Speaker 2>but I haven't read the like the you know, the

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:06.399
<v Speaker 2>shit that's like it because they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were all Italian and they were like, you know, making

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.319
<v Speaker 1>a busta yeah, yeah, exactly, that is they had the

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:11.240
<v Speaker 1>strain of a bust.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really glad you've proven that. I really it's no,

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>it's pointless to mug you because you can do all

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<v Speaker 2>the accents.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Italian, but that was a terrible accent. That

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<v Speaker 1>was actually a bad one.

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Well you're more Italian accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. I am allowed, but I won't do the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese accent because I am also Chinese, and I'll spare

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<v Speaker 1>your listeners then okay. But I love this. I love

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I was back reading my like scary

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>score stories to tell in the Dark books when I

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>was thirteen, Oh yeah, which is you know, or fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was. But I like these ones. I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would, yeah, I would probably, you know, I'm

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>sure you probably are like, yeah, we need to tweak it,

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 1>we need to like, you know, jug up the drama

0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>a bit the ending. Yet then he died in all

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>old Man was and he was happy.

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was fine. Okay, but you're not going to

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.479
<v Speaker 2>get a sequel if you put in the happily ever after.

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>That's true exactly.

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Like what if he has to go back and fight

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 2>six warlocks next time?

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>M or his kid has to do it, you know,

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and then the kids do battle.

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or like one of them killed his dog and

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 2>now he has to go murder all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that John as a John.

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even seen John Wick, but I know that much.

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I haven't seen all the sequels yet, but you

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 2>know it's better than the usual. You took this woman,

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<v Speaker 2>now I must kill you know.

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, someone killing your dog is a pretty good backstory.

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's probably actually why all of these characters are

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:56.359
<v Speaker 2>acting bad. But if people want to act good, they

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>can get their news from you. This is awkward transition,

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you got? I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't affect my life, but I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's interesting. You know.

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