1 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, bol Bishop and 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Nathan Segura. 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Alright, so live on a very fine Tuesday edition, merely 7 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: bo the great Z. How are you? My pen survived 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: the night? So I was a big test. Please did 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: we tell the audience about the pen test? No? No, 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: So you leave a pen at the death so that 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: I have it, So that you have it. We'll try 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: to be like you take good notes, take good notes. 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: You want to be able to write down things, notes 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: that jog your attention. You're in create ideas potentially. And 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: this was a valued pen. These were valued pens, your 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: felt tip pens. It was it really tied the room together, 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: did it not? Yes? These were valued. 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: In fact, it was one black pen that was the 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: only kind of clickpen that. 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: I actually like. Yeah. 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: Gone, then a black one of these, gone, then a 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: blue one, and said I went red, which is really 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: jumps out at you the color of it. 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: And I said, let's see how long this lasts. So 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: far one day made it through the night, made it 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: through the night. It's more than you can say for 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: some of the other pens. It is. I value a 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: good pen. I love a felt tip. I always have 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: felt tips. I like those a lot. But I also 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: had a variety of colors too. Yesterday, when I was 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: on television, I would match the felt tip when I anchored, 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: I would match it to my tie. Of course, I 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: would always try to do that, so your orange red 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: like artorial. I would try to make sure that all 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: synced up and anyway, so that we always have that. 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: But one thing I truly value is a blue pen 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: that writes with an ink that really is in a 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: hurry to get out. Yeah, Because when I noticed most 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: pens that I have these days, it's they dry up 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: very quickly. There's not a consistently good stroke to it. 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: And I like a blue ink. I want a blue ink. 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: I was told years ago that that's the one you 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: can't copy, like you can't a blue ink is blue ink. 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: You can't make a copy of blue ink. It doesn't work, 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: doesn't work. So that I always look for the blue 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: ink I like. Yeah, And it's hard to find a 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: good pen these days. I don't even I suppose you 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: could go to like the ultra like what's like the 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: elite pen matter, these are the best pens. Just these 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: are these are but like you can't write it if 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna write like a note to somebody, this is 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: a tough bet, Like I can't big felt bet. No, 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: well I wouldn't, but you could in a blue would beautiful. 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: There's that very nice like gel p. There's some nice 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: gel pen. Those never work for me the way I 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: want them to. 57 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 3: And then you get the ones that have the fan, 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: the things that have the you know, they're very heavy, 59 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: and then it's got the fancy like pen head. 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: I don't even look at the DIAMONDI and then just 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: a little yeah, but I need the quill to come 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: out a quill, Yeah, that's what you need, like you 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: can dip it in your ink and then you pull 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: it right out. Pulling in here today we're doing some 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: construction and there was a a semi truck that was 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: delivering goods for the construction process. And he was backing 67 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: up the semi truck into a relatively small opening. And 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: so you know, there's angles that have to be done 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: here right because you're going you can get to be 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: in a jackknife situation if you know what you're doing. 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: And I had my wife, my wife with my phone 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: and I said, I don't know if I'm going to 73 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: be kind of tight. This guy's doing this. And we 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: were talking and I said, you know, I can do that. 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: She's like, what are you talking about? Like I could 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: do what he's doing. How to do that? I drove 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: trucks and I could do that when you were fourteen, 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: that's right. So then she just believed, look, we gotta 79 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: go so forth. 80 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: So on. 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: Is there a trait, a skill that you have that 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: would surprise people that you have it, something that maybe 83 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: perhaps you did it when you were young, something that 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: you mastered at a young age. Of course, remember we're 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: an FCC compliant here. Is there anything in the Is 86 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: there anything out there that that that is a unique 87 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: skill that people would be surprised? Because most people, when 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: I say that I can do some of the things, 89 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: my upbringing doesn't actually match up with my lifestyle now 90 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: in many ways. So when the things that I knew 91 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: how to do when I was young don't really apply 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: to my life now at all. Yeah, I don't use 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: any of. 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: The skills I would say, and I don't know if 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: it's really a skill per se, but I do have 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: the ability to grow at least this finger back when 97 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: I cut it off as a kid and it grew 98 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: back from the first knuckle up. 99 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: Was that wolverine that could do that? He's got the 100 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: Adamanthium claus I I don't. I don't know if I think. 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: I wonder of people like you've mentioned before in the show. 102 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: But you are an elite swimmer. I'm a good swimmer. Yeah, yeah, 103 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I'm now, I'm in my forties 104 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: and Evanson, but I still think for a while I 105 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: could get the pull and swim no problem. All Righteah, 106 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: let me do something. We were at Mother's Day peer 107 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: w and the boys said, do you think you could 108 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: swim to downtown from here? And I said, no, I don't. 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: I think I drowned about one hundred yards, no doubt. 110 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: Do you Yeah you could? Yeah, that's far, It's a 111 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: long way. It would be brilliant. I'd be like piss 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: that I did it. I'd be like, why, what an idiot? 113 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: What an idiot? 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: I do it? 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: But I think I could. 116 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: I feel like I could stay alive in water for 117 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: a considerable amount of time. 118 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: Do you know I can't tread water with a dam 119 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: d dude, I can tread water for same hour. Yeah, 120 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: the boys can because they've been swimming since they were little. 121 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: I have to do it to get my life lifeguard, 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: I guess, so maybe this would be one. I could 123 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: tread water holding a brick, a ten pound brick over 124 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: my head for a very long period of time. 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, this with your feet is just the egg beaters. 126 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: You can't like it's not this. 127 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: Adriana's lifeguard test every year when she gets recertified, she's 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: got to do like eight minutes holding a brick above 129 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: her head and tread. 130 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: All right, kind of in line with what you're saying, 131 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: going on to be able to sow you. 132 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: I was a gold medalist at the California Lifeguard Olympics 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: for the active victim rescue, which means I was the 134 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: fastest in the whole competition to music and active. So 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: not a not an unconscious person to rescue a conscious person, 136 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: which is actually sometimes. 137 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Harder, right because they're they're flailing about and they are 138 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: you know, it's funny, like the only way to describe 139 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: that is the word flail yeah, they're flailing about. Yeah, yeah, 140 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: maybe something. He's going to have some fun. How do 141 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: you do that? It's it's your kind of creating. It's 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: like this, these are your legs. They're doing this. They're 143 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: making little circles and like kind of timing it. So 144 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: it's like and it just kind of keeps you steady 145 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: because you want it. You can't be going like that, right, 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: that's what I do. I go like that. My kids 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: their heads are like this. You can't even kind of 148 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: like sit. That's yeah, I can't do that. No good, 149 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: What do you have? Remember we're in the radio. The 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 2: first thing I wanted to say, the radio and YouTube. 151 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: And YouTube YouTube dot com, slash Bronze YouTube is huge. 152 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: It is knife makes me feel like a. 153 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: Big I'm coming back to musician background. I have played 154 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: just about I would say, half the churches in the 155 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 4: city of Cleveland. 156 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: Lay you played your trombone shorty seconds. If I brought 157 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: a trombone in here, you could play. 158 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: I have two different kinds of trombones at home. I 159 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: have a bass trombone. I have a regular trombone. 160 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: Why have you never played the trombone? I don't I 161 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: want the trombone in here tomorrow. I want. I'm thinking bigger. 162 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: I want. 163 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 4: It's been a very long time. 164 00:07:59,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: I want. 165 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: That's a good idea. 166 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: Maybe not the home opener, but I would like for 167 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: a game this year gibbe to play the Star Spangled 168 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: Banner on trombone. 169 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Nope, if you had to do that, if the task 170 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: was you have to play something for the home opener, 171 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: what would be your music choice that you like? I know, 172 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: I know I can get that right now. I haven't 173 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: practiced in forever, but I can crush that right now. 174 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: I played Enter Sandman on trump. 175 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: For God's sake, I think my trombone. I did you 176 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: did that really well? Trombones of all the brass. It's 177 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: a pretty cool brass. I mean you get the weapon. 178 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I was able to do it. 179 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: Slide goes to the reach. What's it called a slide? 180 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: What's what's that part called the slide? That's what should 181 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: be called? 182 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, it's the slide. 183 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: Oh baby, I mean, I just how about that? 184 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: You have to spin on the end, so in case 185 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: someone's really kind of being nasty to you, you just 186 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: go over top and so much in my brain, watch 187 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: yourself fantastic, so that and accomplished singer. Accomplished singer saying 188 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 4: with one of the top men's groups in the country 189 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: in the Bowling Green State University Men's Course. I've been 190 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: on the Today Show, Dave Letterman. 191 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: When you were on Letterman. Do they do it live 192 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: or do they tape it? Wednesday? 193 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: We tape. We taped at five five third and it's 194 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: freezing in there. Yes, it's cold. We were out. We 195 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: were outside singing like entertaining the people as they waited 196 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: in line because we didn't have tickets. The Letterman got 197 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 4: win because he's a ball State guy, but there was 198 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: a Bowling Green group. They came out and they're like, hey, 199 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: like there's a chance you actually might get on the show. 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: So Letterman, I've got the VHS tape and it was like, 201 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: there's some dudes that have been outside singing in like 202 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: forty degree weather for like two hours. Should we let him? 203 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: You guys want him in here for a minute. And 204 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 4: he ran down and opened the side alleyway door and 205 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: he's like, come on in. We had to sing like 206 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: the Beg Fight song and something else, and he's like, 207 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: all right, now, get the hell out of here. Here 208 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: and then they paid us three hundred and fifty bucks. Wow. 209 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: And then every time it ran we got our. 210 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: Little tape, The musical Gifts of Gibbe. I would not never. 211 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: This is my mother big into the arts, all right. 212 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: She was like, you can be an athlete, but you're 213 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna do this. You're gonna do this too, 214 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: which is fantastic. 215 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: Would you be more comfortable singing the national anthem or 216 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: playing the trump? 217 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: Singing? 218 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: Singing would be more? Absolutely? Ye? 219 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: More sing Yeah, it's been like I said, it's been 220 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: a while on the trump. 221 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: Why are you so hateful towards Jade McCrae. You guys 222 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: are musical, your musical anybody. You guys can work together. 223 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: You guys have a duet. I'm not hateful toward anybody. 224 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: Get what is your musicals? How would you describe your voice? 225 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: What's your musical? Who would be God? Can you give 226 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: us give us one verse? Never that guy in the 227 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: in the Oakreage boys, huh, that guy in the Oakreage boys. 228 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 2: You give me one of those, a little boom boom 229 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: bop them one of those. Maybe I can almost show 230 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: a billion times that I have no talent I just did. 231 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: I suck you did. But now he's right here. Come on, Gibbet, 232 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not there now, wishless before I leave 233 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: at the end of summer, I need Gibbe singing and 234 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: a trombone. 235 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: Yes, I used to play like I used to crush. 236 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: I was in a quartet, brass quartet, and we would 237 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: play like Christmas Easter. I'd play like five church services 238 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 4: in a day and just get just clean up, Gibbe. 239 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: Jeremy and Akron wants to know if you were a 240 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: member of Bowling Green's prestigious men's choir. 241 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: I was, okay, I've known you for over a decade. 242 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: It's a hundred brought up because he's never mentioned it. 243 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty dudes. And I go to audition 244 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: and they're like the audition piece with row row row 245 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: your boat, and then they were like, could you sing 246 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: it like in in a uh yeah, you know, there 247 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: were like four different parts going at one time and 248 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: like and then they were like, it's one hundred fifty 249 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 4: dudes that like to drink beer and sing. And I'm like, 250 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 4: all right, I can do that. I mean I can 251 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: do that. 252 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: Why have you never sung on this program. You know 253 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: what I don't need? Do you know what my selection 254 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: would be? 255 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: Have CDs out? 256 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: What all right? At least play when you're the can 257 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: you play? I want to hear some of this. Listen. 258 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: I want you to do this what I want? This 259 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: would be my wish. This is my wish. I want 260 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: you to I want you singing sixteen tons. That's what 261 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: I want. That's a song. That's a song. That's a 262 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: song for your voice. Told me your baritone it is, 263 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: That's what I want. I used to sing that. That 264 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: was one of four songs I would sing to the 265 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 2: boys when they were little. I'd sing four songs consecutively, 266 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: and one of them was that. 267 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: Do whatever you can't go to sleep, go to sleep well. 268 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: I what I noticed was that it's the same if 269 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: it's routine. So I would sing the same four in 270 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: order every time, and that was one of them. And 271 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: I was it's a Tennessee Williams. Who sings that? What's Tennessee? 272 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: Arny Ford? I sings that stung? But that is a 273 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: That song is a banger, baby, And I'd like to 274 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: see you. I want to hear you sing that, Gibby. 275 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: That's my wish. By the way, Mike says, it's a 276 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: sharpie click top s gel is the play perfect lines, 277 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: no bleeding, one hundred percent satisfaction, guaranteed, Wow's recommendation. It's 278 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: I did not know that this is how this was 279 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: going to go, that we were going to get this, 280 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: this revelation. I'm glad that we know it now because 281 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: now we can still watch time. Is like you, guys, 282 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: back up a truck. This guy's been on Letterman. That's right. 283 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: Come on, come on, give a I'd like to hear 284 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: him sing shallow shallow shell loo. 285 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 4: Come on, I don't think that's in the that's in 286 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 4: the room. 287 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: Was that was? That was when I was on the 288 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: right side of right that they were not. 289 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 4: They were not. 290 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: I was on the wrong side of Swift and Kelsey 291 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: getting right. Apparently I was on the right side of 292 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: that one. So you've bet in five hundred as it were. 293 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: Its fine, Yeah, we all are. Really, that's all you 294 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: can hope for. That's a great I mean, we'll work 295 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 2: on this. We're gonna we'll work on this. Ye If 296 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: I ever, if I ever fulfill my dream of being 297 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: a professional wrestler, I'd like you to play me to 298 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: the ring with enter Sandman on the trombone. That would 299 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: be amazing. 300 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: That's right, I did that pinball wizard I could play. 301 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know what's that. I don't even know. 302 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. What a revelation. That's fantastic. 303 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: My mom says, you did great laundry. I should have 304 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: been doing laundry. 305 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: You had great laundry, and I did great laundry. 306 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: I'd been doing my own lundry since I had been 307 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: like four. She said, that was one of my great skills. 308 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: I did a great laundry. 309 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: What is an appropriate age to have a kid learn laundry? 310 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: I have no idea. Not then too soon? Too soon? 311 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like in high school, like I would 312 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: have her own volition, like when she became like a 313 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: freshman in high school, was like. 314 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: I'm doing my rock. Well, you learned how to do 315 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: laundry freshman years too late? I think too late. 316 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: Well, I knew I knew how, I just wasn't forced 317 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: to know. I was like, there's not the yoke. There's 318 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: an iron yoke while you're under just pulling, hoping for 319 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: your best. Yeah, this one though, Nana was Nana's culpable 320 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: in this as well. She was a big making you 321 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: do your laundry. The dot dot dots. Oh she's gonna 322 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: now there will be af Is she going to defend it? 323 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I started at age nine or so, nine or so, 324 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: like you were like getting it together, be honest, there's 325 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: some advantages. 326 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I was like rock, I didn't start till like 327 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: senior year, freshman year of college. 328 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: And my laundry, she says nine or so, which means 329 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: it's probably seven. Probably seven. Yeah, you were hauling your stuff. 330 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: And you had the dumbin and dumb the stuff in 331 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: and into the dryer and fold it myself. 332 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: Great laundry, unbelievable. If I could wish of one thing 333 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: of my kids, it would be that they could fold 334 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: their own laundry. I suppose they can that we just don't. 335 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: We should maybe teach them and make them. Maybe that'll be. 336 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: A task for me this summer. Dude, they put it away, 337 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: that's the other question. 338 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: Not well, But then the problem is is like I 339 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: care more what they look like than they do, especially 340 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: the oldest, Like he's fine with like just having something 341 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: that's got wrinkles and putting it on and going. Don't 342 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: worry there. 343 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: There will come a time in all of your lives 344 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: where you will care far less than they will. 345 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: It will all turn around. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's big on. 346 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: He's in the in the in the Colonne thing. At 347 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: the moment that that really escalated. A little card noir, 348 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: little little cool wish cool water. What was the first 349 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: one you coveted? Those are the three that I had. 350 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: I was going to. I don't remember which one was, 351 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: but it was cool Carnoir and Polo Sport, dab it off, 352 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: love it yeah, have it off. The one that I 353 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: coveted was obsession. Is that Calvin Klein? Yep? Yeah, I 354 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: coveted Obsession and I asked for it. I want to say, 355 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: in like seventh or eighth grade, there was a senior 356 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 2: in high school. I thought it was a pretty cool 357 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: dude who that was his deal. I'm like, I gotta 358 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: be like that dude, like Doug shoa Qutti's got it 359 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: sorting out, man, I gotta be like that guy. So 360 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: I asked for it, and instead I got c k one, 361 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: which fine, but not obsession. No, not obsession, pull a 362 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: sport at a beautiful blue bottle gorgeous, gorgeous bottle. Yeah, 363 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: when's the last time that you worn cologne? There was 364 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: I mean there was a time when it was I 365 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: would like twenty years ago, fifteen years ago. It was 366 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: like a daily like it was just part of the routine. 367 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: Get out of the shower, spray and then go U. 368 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: Not very often, no, not too often. 369 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: I would say, maybe I wear it. Miss k got 370 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: me a Yellowstone cologne. Yeah, and I would say I 371 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: wear cologne. I'd say in the last five years, I've 372 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: probably worn Colone. 373 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: Ten times. 374 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: Usually from cologne to chains. 375 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: That's true. You did go to you used to, Well, 376 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: you don't have your chains anymore, that's good. I had. 377 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: I got this one though. Did it looks gorgeous? Did 378 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: it come off or did you have to break it? 379 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: I had to take it off for the MRI MRI, 380 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: So it's gone gone. That's it. Do you when you 381 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: did wear the clone was also like in conjunction with 382 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: like a suit or white tablecloth or black tie type situation, 383 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: or was just random. It would be like she would say, hey, 384 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: I got used colone. You should wear it. Sometimes Hey, 385 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: hey I got a clone, you want to wear it? 386 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: You wear the clone? Sure, Yeah, and that's it. Yeah, 387 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: it's not it's not like anything. Yeah like that. I 388 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: like my natural musk. I don't ever think about it anymore. 389 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: Maybe I do something about it. You wearing Colone gibbet 390 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: uh periodically? Yeah? 391 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 392 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: So like to smell nice? I would smell nice. 393 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: Well, of course you do. I always feel like I 394 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 4: don't smell goods. So that's I'm like, I don't think 395 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: that's showers. I think I've never but believe me, there's 396 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: that time where I'm. 397 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: Like, I've never thought you smelled, and I would tell 398 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: you if I did. Thank you. 399 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: I'm the friend that's going to tell you, like if 400 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: you got something in your teeth or you smell. 401 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 4: You are, I'll tell you are a gentleman when it 402 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: comes to that. 403 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: If you are not the friend who will do that, 404 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: then you're not You're not a friend because to help 405 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: you got it right, Like if you don't know, we 406 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: don't have lenses on ours, I have no idea what's 407 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: going on. 408 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: I will say as well, though, I think that body 409 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 3: wash has come such a long way from when you 410 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: and I were they'll call it teens college, that your 411 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: body wash now has almost a. 412 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Scent to it. 413 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely that sticks with. 414 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: Like it's almost colony or whatever. Well, yes, no question. 415 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: I mean you had dial Irish Spring, I that's it. Yeah, 416 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: my mom had ivory and then it was an Irish 417 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: Spring dial and it was a rotation. There's no set 418 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: on it. That's it. No, you're not well, there probably was, 419 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: jake them now, but yeah, it was at that time. 420 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: It just just get clean. Sometimes Spring was like, honestly, 421 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: you put that on, let's go to work like that. 422 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: You could do anything at that point. 423 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 3: By the way, I mean, I remember the Irish Spring 424 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: like I had body washed when I was a younger person. 425 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: Wasn't like I don't ever I never had body wash 426 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: college that for myself, and I was like, oh this exists. 427 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: I don't have to have the stupid bar's. 428 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: Side at a green bar of Irish Spring. Of course 429 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: you did. It's what we did. Where is an Irish 430 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Don't they have ads all the time? They were constantly 431 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: there with the little Irish guy in his voice. It's 432 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 2: gone vaporized? Where is it? First time I went grocery 433 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: shopping is a college guy and I was like, oh, wow, 434 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: look at all this I can choose from pick any 435 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: of this. All this is here all for you. O 436 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: t A start today, Dude, you have an O t 437 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: A so Browns ten o t as that would be 438 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: something Browns of ten o t is the next three weeks. 439 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: I think if he's not gonna play Jade songs, he 440 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: should record his own. 441 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: For Better or Worse sweet Spot? Would you have the 442 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: enthusiasm of Jade? Maybe not that be funny like Better 443 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: or Worse sweet Spot? Go to hell. So we talked 444 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: about Jade a lot on the program. She's beloved. She's 445 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: some student solo work in Sydney. I saw that she's 446 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: ridiculously skilled. Yeah, like that's yeah, that's yeah, she's really 447 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: great great, So potentially and potentially she could be here 448 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: on the Hackney Diamonds to her right? Is that in play? 449 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: I feel like her in the next month. It is 450 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: in play. It has to be in play. 451 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: I feel like her in the official teaching prob where 452 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: the two most perhaps are referenced and perhaps are most 453 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: in their profession talented listeners. 454 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean the half obviously is the half, but he 455 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: I think you have that right. I think though, yeah, 456 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: that the elite of the elite there in that in 457 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: that in that world. By the way, this is a 458 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: pretty who's that pravts? Oh, yes, of course. Yeah. Well, 459 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: I mean we did a the Secretary of the Navy, 460 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: Christ in the studio, Chris in the studio, No happen, 461 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: No big deal. Brown's gonna have ten OTAs over the 462 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: next three weeks. 463 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: What is it? 464 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: What are you hoping to see? Is there a goal? 465 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: We need to watch them tomorrow. Yeah, can get a 466 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: little bit of viewing of that. Everybody's doing it. I 467 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: see Kyler's slinging it to Marvin Harrison. You're seeing Aaron 468 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Rodgers out there, You're seeing everybody out there slinging it around. 469 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: So two things I saw two things that are equally absurd. 470 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: But the first is that Marvin Harrison's lawsuit stems from 471 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: comments that he made on the McAfee show. 472 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: Is that the genesis of it? 473 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: I read that that it's whatever he's on the McAfee 474 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: show is what drew fanatics hire and hence the suit. 475 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's possible Dad's out over 476 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: his skis. I think that's quite possible. 477 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 3: And then the second was somebody who's some NFL and 478 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: like they're you know, we have all these kind of 479 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: aggregators now that are always talking about that whatever, and 480 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: it was a clip of Marvin Harrison and they're like, wow, 481 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: he really looks slow as he's have to be jogging arount. 482 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: Like that's where we're at. The crazy thing about Harrison 483 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: is when he's at Ohio State, like his dad was 484 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: hands off, So I don't know what about this makes 485 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: him hands on. I don't know. Money, money, money, money, money, 486 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I guess, I don't know. Chris Pauling's 487 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 2: your role with the Browns has been announced. He's joined 488 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: the teams as a special advisor. See of that as well. 489 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: I like that. 490 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: Yep, yes, Ota isn't really into what I'd like to see. 491 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what the offense looks like, formationally, 492 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: pre snap motion, wise personnel groupings, what the dropback game 493 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: looks like, what the RPO game looks like, and I 494 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: hope to see before we break for the summer. I 495 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: hope to see Deshaun Watson participating in at least like 496 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: a seven on seven situation. I would like to see 497 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: him throw the wall. That's not necessary, that's just something 498 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: that I would like. But really, what I'm here is 499 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: for the schematics of it. What does it look like 500 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 3: with Amari and Judy and Elijah and you know, Ken 501 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: Set or Tillman take a leap. I'm always very our 502 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 3: defense is basically coming back as it was. Yeah, so 503 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm curiously Jordan Hicks. But other than that, you know, okay, 504 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: you're see Mike Hall. Other than that, everybody's gonna play 505 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: I've seen yeah, we've seen him. We've seen him. 506 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: The thing that I mean, you remember you go back 507 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: to last year at at OTAs and in a mini 508 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: camp and like Marky's goodwin was we talked about it 509 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 2: all the time, like the dude was a game wrecker, 510 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: any game wrecker, and he was going to be something 511 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: that we didn't have. I mean, every practice it felt 512 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: like there was something when you'd be like, good grief, 513 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: like this is a weapon, and then it. 514 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: Tequila, what about Gimbeck going. 515 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, we could do that 516 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: on the trombone. Can you play that on trombone and 517 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: then get it tequila? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, We're 518 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: we're getting there. We'll get there. Look all that this 519 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: is as simple as you know. One thing we've we've 520 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: lamented over the course of this offseason. Is this when 521 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: you are a good team, there's not a lot of 522 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: news out there, so you don't have the draft picks 523 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: aren't coming in. They're not guys who are going to 524 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: come in and necessarily start right away. It'd be long 525 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 2: odds for any of them to Mike. I'll probably have 526 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: your best chance, but it's slim chance that any of 527 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: those guys come in and start right away. So you've 528 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: done the free agency stuff. You don't have coaching changes, 529 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: you don't have free front office changes. So it's pretty 530 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: quiet off season in many ways, it's very similar to 531 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: last offseason, and that the one thing we're waiting on 532 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: is just in this instance we're coming off of a 533 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: major surgery. Is just for you just want to see 534 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: him sling it. Of course, I want to see what 535 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: it looks like. That's the whole thing is that is 536 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: do we we don't have the answer to this. I 537 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: don't know if he has the answer to it. Will 538 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: he get to the point by the end of this 539 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: time these O tas and then mini camp where he's 540 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: cutting loose and going. That's that's the. 541 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: Thing, everybody, That's what I would like to see again 542 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: more the rest of it is schematically interested. 543 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: By the way, the Brown. 544 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: Signed Matt Landers today, all right six four, two hundred 545 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: pounds in his first NFL season out of Arkansas. Signed 546 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: by the Seahawks as an undrafted free agent last year. 547 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: Spent part of his rookie season on the Seahawks and 548 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: Panthers practice squads. He's a wide receiver out of Arkansas. 549 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: He got a chance to be that third wide receiver. No, 550 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you should never say never, but 551 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: I don't believe so. I don't think so Road, I 552 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: don't think. 553 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: I mean, if he if he's on the fifty three 554 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 3: either land, it's been Landers man. 555 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 2: He is running. 556 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 4: Wild training camp. Darling could be for sure. 557 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: That's all we had. We've come a long way from 558 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: like can we sign whoever Pittsburgh cuts, yes, to where 559 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: like we have draft picks who aren't gonna play we 560 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: us wanted. We have draft picks who might not even 561 00:26:53,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: make the team. Right. We we used to not only 562 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: picked these guys up who were cut by their teams. 563 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: We would pick them up and then try to start 564 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 2: them week one. 565 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, God, we pick up a lineman from Minnesota, 566 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 4: like the cutdowns were Saturday of Labor Day weekend. This 567 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: guy was in on Sunday Monday. He was running with 568 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: the first team at the first practice and I'm like, hmm, 569 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: rawro not great. What about the guys that have been 570 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: here for six weeks? 571 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they considerably Go ahead, go ahead. What do you 572 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: have an Irish Spring update for you? From official Nana? 573 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: Actually today, Irish Spring has used a lot to put 574 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: in your garden to keep the deer and pest away 575 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: because they don't like the spell. I have Irish Spring 576 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: in my garden. So there are bars of Irish Spring 577 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: hanging out in dirt. 578 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: Apparently multi purpose. 579 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: That's one way. That's a way to handle it. Well, 580 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: that's great. It makes you wonder. I guess repellent to 581 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: deer and pests, attractive to human Put it on little 582 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: boys here. You don't have to worry about anybody. Any 583 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: animals attack yet No, yeah, nothing to see her. Oh 584 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: my god, is that that Irish Spring kid? 585 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 4: Run? 586 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: Forget it, mountain Not interested, not interested at all. 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Any is there anything 616 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: here that is surprising to you? 617 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: Uh? 618 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: Tilman maybe? 619 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 620 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: Tilman over Elijah Moore. I would put Elijah in there 621 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: in that third receiver spot, and then I would have 622 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: Dewan Jones at the right tackle. That's gonna be interesting 623 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: with Dewan Jones. No, he's a stud, I know, but 624 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: like with where is Jack just not even if you 625 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: I just think Dwan Jones is well, he's a stud, 626 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: like he's Yeah, he was gonna be a megastar. It 627 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: might be the best right tackle in football. He was 628 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: on that trajectory, yes, before he got hurt. All right. 629 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: On the defensive side, I mean there's there's nothing nothing there. Really. 630 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: Shelby could be you know, Hall, it could be Quentin 631 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: Jefferson at that, but that's not it's gonna be a 632 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: rotation on the D line anyway. 633 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna play four defensive tackles, you're going 634 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: to play four or five defensive ends. But everything else 635 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: looks looks pretty good. Yeah, you forget we had so 636 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: much go wrong this year. Back to Jack, you go, 637 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: so we had so much go wrong injury wise last year. 638 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: You forgot that he was hurt in the opener. In 639 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: the opener, Yeah, him, I wonder how he's I'm sure 640 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 2: he's doing well. It's just a tough It was a 641 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: tough streak right there, because if you remember Week one, 642 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Jed missed the block, Jack goes down. Week two, he 643 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: misses a block that leads to the sax Strip fumble 644 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: touchdown for the Steelers. You know, there were there was 645 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: a lot that went on in the early season that 646 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: was that was tough. The rotational get to the defense 647 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: in a second, it's it's wild when you look at 648 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: this and you say, yeah, so much of this is known. 649 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: And Elijah Tillman Cedric does have a body type of 650 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: course that we don't necessarily otherwise have. Yep. And he's 651 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: a guy who, before the injury at Tennessee going into 652 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: his last year, was you know, potentially a first round 653 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: pick type of player, yes, and then got overshadowed on 654 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: his own tapes. I would love for this to actually 655 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: be a conversation because if this is the case, then 656 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: we're a lot better. We're a lot better because then 657 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: because Elijah Elijah's and he's dangerous, and he's a west 658 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: end and all those things. But if all of a 659 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: sudden you had a big, physical bodied outside receiver in Tillman, 660 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: if he were to develop into what you hoped when 661 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: you drafted him, and he's young, well. 662 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: I've heard a lot too, but like, he's got the potential. 663 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: I think you want to take over outside down the road. 664 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: I think Elijah would be very good, especially in this offense, 665 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: which is going to emphasize route running, choice routes, option routes, 666 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: and he's got I think that's where his ability to separate. 667 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: Is going to loom large. 668 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: But if Cedric Tillman can even come close to making 669 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: this a discussion, that's a great thing for the Cleveland Browns. 670 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: The other thing on here, and it's just the reality 671 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: of it is, if this is to start the season, 672 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm overstepping that this would be 673 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: pretty surprising if Nick Chubb were starting at tailback to 674 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: start the season. I mean I would never doubt Nick Chubb. No, 675 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: he's Nick Chubb, but that seems I would like a tall, 676 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: tall task and something quite honestly that is not necessary 677 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. Now it feels like 678 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: a be right when you come back. There's no hurry 679 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 2: Foreman Ford strong committee, right, and I think Deontay Foreman 680 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: is going to be very effective in this offense, very effective. Yeah. 681 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: They feel very good about the running back room, even 682 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 3: with the uncertainty around Nick Chubb. And I know some 683 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: people are thinking they'll be back for week one. I've 684 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: heard some people think, oh, maybe I'll open on the 685 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: pup and it'll. 686 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: Be week six. Whenever he is ready, I would imagine 687 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: that he will. He will be the guy, but he 688 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: might even be eased into that as even as things 689 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: go on. And so you're going to be a committee 690 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: at that running back position for a while anyway. Yeah, 691 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: and with because of how you feel, because of the 692 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: addition of Foreman, and just the way that you have, 693 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: the confidence that they have in the room, with the 694 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: schematic changes that are to be made offensively. Yeah, just 695 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: come back when you're ready, Like just you're good, don't 696 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 2: don't there's no rush. You look at this roster. Like 697 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: Rosenthal's last line here, this is an eleven win team 698 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: with twenty of talent continuity that just needs to get 699 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: better quarterback play to be in the mix in the AFC. 700 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: That's it. Does a team go win the nf AFC. 701 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: You need great quarterback play to do that because you 702 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: got to beat the wizard. But if you if you 703 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: get that, then you got everything else. Every other box 704 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: has checked. He also does mention this. The departure of 705 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: Bill Callahan makes the offensive line a bigger question mark 706 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: than usual. After a steady run of one of the 707 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: best groups in football, we've had largely I mean a 708 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: top offensive line group for a decade. Yep, yep, it's yeah. 709 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 3: So you go back to the twenty fourteen team, it's 710 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: been Yeah, there were some lean years there where it 711 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 3: was just kind of but you always had Joe and Joel. 712 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 713 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he always had great center play because you had JC. 714 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Mitchell Schwartz is on those teams along the time. 715 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: So the right tackle, right tackle, yeah, yeah, before JC 716 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: had Alex man Oh. 717 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex mac. So we've always offensive line been verie. 718 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: I was bristle when people talk about how we got 719 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: to be better on the offensive line. I'm like, the 720 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: best offensive line for the better part of a decade. 721 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: It's tough, correct, get me the QB's baby, that's where 722 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 2: it's at. Get weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons. Uh, defensively, he's 723 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: got it, Miles, Dalvin Shelby, you address that with maybe 724 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: my call getting in there for Shelby or resehearchol So Jefferson, 725 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: Jefferson too. Yeah. Zidarius, by the way, freshly shorn Zadarius, 726 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: did you see this? No high and tight baby, right 727 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: and tight? High and tight looks great, looks fantastic. He's 728 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: a striking human being. Well, I would say more so 729 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: now even well the chops to pull it off. 730 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 4: It looks great. 731 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: I told you that I felt like out at one 732 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 3: of the Cavs playoff games I went to when he 733 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: showed up and was sitting under the basket, and I'm like, 734 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: this is he is central casting for what a star 735 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: football player looks like, like seeing out of ballers. Blue suit, 736 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 3: the hair, huge diamonds, shades, just and he's a good 737 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: looking guy. 738 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: So all right, you haven't seen it? No, yeah, we 739 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: we put it out on on our social channels this morning. Okay, 740 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: so it is today, all right, So you didn't miss 741 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: something from like weeks ago. Yeah, there you go. Whoa. Yeah, 742 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: looks great. Oh my god, looks like a totally I mean, 743 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: you look great before it. That's it looks like tentacles 744 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: on the ground. He looks. It makes him definitely looks 745 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: a little more youthful. I agree. I think it's great. 746 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: He looks like now he looked to me, he looks 747 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: now like he's a He looks like he could be 748 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 2: a like a power forward, even though I know he's 749 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: not tall enough to actually be a power forward in 750 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: today's NBA. But he looks so different that's wild. Yeah. 751 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: I mean those things on that image of them on 752 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 2: the ground of the dreads right. Hard to get my 753 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: head around it is. 754 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you use to cut those big it's 755 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 4: a big big shears. 756 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he looks youthfully. 757 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 4: It's great. 758 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it's great. 759 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: Speaking of hair, by the way. 760 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 2: Nice little fade. Yeah, the faith's great. I think that's 761 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: the biggest takeaway is the like youth barber. To me, 762 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 2: he looks so yeah, I think he looks significantly younger. 763 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 4: The voice of the Bengals has confirmed that indeed, Joe 764 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: Burrow's hair is quite short and not the so this 765 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 4: is not the perm that he is going around the internet. 766 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: So for those listening this morning, like all of NFL, 767 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: Twitter was up in arms about an image going around 768 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 2: of Joe Burrow with kind of like the maine that 769 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: Hayden Christensen had in the Star Wars prequels. Yep, that's 770 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 2: kind of the look of it. Yes, he looked, he 771 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: did look like yeah, but it was it is not 772 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: his actual hair. Sadly awful announcing sadly Joe Burrow's new 773 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: long hair meme is not real. It's not real. 774 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 3: It should be. If I was him, I would do it. 775 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: I feel like we have had that. 776 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: Here's the problem, though, he would He's got straight hair, 777 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: so he would have to permit. Yes, you're not going 778 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: to be dealing with a permit, sure to do that. 779 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 2: As a kid, remember when that was in when you 780 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: you didn't want like the you know that maguire and 781 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: those guys they'd have that mop a hair in the back, 782 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 2: that mullet in the back, like the duck button. Yeah, 783 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: you never wanted one of those guys. No, never want 784 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: to one of those. I convinced my mom one time 785 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: to let me perm them just the back so I 786 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: could go tight and then have it flowing and hit 787 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 2: in the back of the baseball jersey. I remember sitting 788 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: in my aunt's house and getting like an ogilvy home. 789 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: PERM did that once exactly. That sucked. By the way, 790 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: I think that this we've got it. We have a 791 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: couple opportunities. One that went obviously we didn't get because 792 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: I think if Sheffler played well in round three, I 793 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 2: think it would have been amazing. If in the fourth 794 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: round if he just played an all orange like Ricky 795 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: Fowler style, yeah, that would have been an unreal moment 796 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: and a nice little And then now Burrow has an 797 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: he's got a gross hair out. He's gotta grow, He's 798 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: got to do it. 799 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gotta at least take that picture for his 800 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 3: team picture. He doesn't have to keep in the season, 801 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 3: but that's got to be his team picture. 802 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: He's got a pretty good sense of humor, so I 803 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: would not surprise me if he did. Yep, Oh my god, 804 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: oh please tell me this is mister Gibbey. I found 805 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: a CD a CD on eBay of BGSU nineteen ninety seven. 806 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: Tour. 807 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh we two, we're goodness gracious, it's hard to see. 808 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 4: If we went to New York City, we sang national 809 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 4: anthems for the Indians down a winter haven, which one. 810 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: Of these guys is you give a are you? In 811 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: one of these photos it looks. 812 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 4: Like, hopefully it's the nice formal in the tucks one and. 813 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: Now you're more, you're summon cowboy, hats you got? You 814 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: guys are paling around the Golden gate Bridge. 815 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 4: I don't that might have been a separate chorus. I 816 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 4: don't think that was the men's chorus because I didn't 817 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 4: go to California. 818 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. 819 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: Now we were all East coast with the tours, New 820 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: York City, Florida, up and down the coast. 821 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: Tommy with this coming from an accomplished saxophone player file 822 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: uh pgsu Gibbs being a trombone player under things that 823 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 2: make total sense. They were always the ornery ones. Ah, 824 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: I love that. That's good. That's a good stuff. Then 825 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: I remembers that girl pumping the fan base full of 826 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 2: the roster. Solution being that we had the first waiver 827 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 2: claim and be legitimately excited about it. You gotta those 828 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: days are gone. Brother, You gotta you gotta evaluate the world. 829 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: You gotta play the hand your adults. 830 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 4: We were so excited on that Tuesday after because we 831 00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 4: were never on. 832 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: Then we got Case Williams. 833 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: Everybody, Yeah, he's gonna change the fortunes of the whole franchise. 834 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: Those are the days in the rear view mirror, gentlemen. Yeah, 835 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 2: oh man, all right, So coming up we will we'll 836 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: put together an All AFC North offense and defense and 837 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 2: see how many of our guys we get on there. 838 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: And we'll do that as biasedly as we can be, 839 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: which is, as you know, very biased, by the way. 840 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: And as I look at the pictures of this, a 841 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 3: lot of guys in cowboy hats on and this choir. 842 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, they must have played like the okay corral. We'll 843 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: go around in like the collegiate corral. There you go, 844 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: We're all around the league. Coming up next to Cleveland 845 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 2: runs Daily on eight fifty. 846 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: ESP in Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily, Front to you by 847 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: Balley bed Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESP 848 00:41:46,960 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: and Cleveland, Let's go. 849 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 2: Around the League. DeVante Parker announced his retirement from the 850 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: NFL thirty one year old wide receiver signed a one 851 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: year deal with the Eagles this offseason. He won't play 852 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 2: a down for them. He played nine seasons, all with 853 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: the Dolphins and Patriots and sixty six yards twenty seven touchdowns. 854 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that I thought would have 855 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: been better. 856 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 3: Coming out, like yes, and he had one good thousand 857 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 3: yard season. It's an unbelievable Browns therapy. He had one 858 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: thousand yard season. 859 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I'll look that up and verify 860 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: that in a second. 861 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, he had the size, this he had, He 862 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 3: had it all. Honestly, you thought that this is a 863 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: guy who's going to be, you know, a big, big, 864 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 3: big star. But that's not. Unfortunately, that's not how it 865 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 3: worked out for him. He was able to stay in 866 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 3: the league for a while. I'm pretty sure he's drafted 867 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen to fifteen. Twenty fifteen, two fifteen draft 868 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: is what I think. Yeah, because it was the draft. 869 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 3: I wanted him here obviously, because I always wanted. 870 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: To dress Louisville right. 871 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 3: Louisville six probably six four six three two fifteen was 872 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: a fourteenth overall pick of the twenty fifteen draft in 873 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 3: Miami yeah, he had. In twenty nineteen, he had twelve 874 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: hundred and two yards, nine touchdowns and averaged six sixteen 875 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 3: point seven yards of catch. Was very, very good that year. 876 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't have another season where he hit eight hundred yards 877 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: or five touchdowns though, so that was a big year 878 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, caerea though, eight point three yards per target. 879 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 2: I mean he made a living man a good living 880 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 2: playing football. He didn't. Yeah, It's just it's one of 881 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 2: those things where coming out it felt like he was 882 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 2: a chance stop to be a story. 883 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm reading the Matt Landers that we signed. 884 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: Six ' four ran a four to three seven forty 885 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 3: third fastest of the combine last year. 886 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: But obviously must be he's got size and speed. So 887 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 2: there's there's a patches, there's a piece, there must be 888 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 2: a catch things there is, well, usually a piece because 889 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 2: I said it, that's a lot of size, it's a 890 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: lot of speed, coach. Yes, that's a random moss, random moss. 891 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 4: Do you remember when DeVante Parker got drafted. His mom 892 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 4: came out and was like, we. 893 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 3: Have the brown Yeah, yeah, no, I hated that was 894 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 3: the at that time. 895 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 4: To be fair, we didn't want him going to Cleveland's 896 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 4: Reneka Parker said Friday, a day after the Dolphins selected 897 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 4: Parker number fourteen. They don't have a team really or 898 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 4: a quarterback. I knew I didn't want the Cleveland. 899 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 2: Brown I mean, that's fair. 900 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 4: Fair. 901 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 2: I think one of the things that happened was that 902 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: some of the like they view that as like a 903 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: shot on this. It has nothing to do with the city. 904 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: It had to do with the franchise was in a 905 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 2: bad spot. He's a wide receiver, a wide receiver, and 906 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: I'd like to be productive. 907 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 3: You need somebody to get him the wall. Can you 908 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 3: name without looking? And maybe it's in the article you 909 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 3: may have come across, all righty. The two first round 910 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 3: draft picks of the Browns in twenty fifteen. 911 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 4: Wait, what was the end of that? 912 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: The two first round draft picks of the Cleveland Browns 913 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: in the year twenty fifteen. 914 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: Danny Shelton, Yes, it was one of them. 915 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,720 Speaker 2: Cam Irving, Yeah, yes, congratulations. You guys teamed up very well. 916 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 2: Over a two year period, the Bruns had four first 917 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 2: round picks. They drafted Johnny Manzel, Justin, Gilbert Cammerving, and 918 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: Danny Shelton. Cam Irving's still in the league and actually 919 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: ended up being pretty good. Like okay, yeah, he's good. 920 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 4: Chairs on a final preseason game, we were getting out 921 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 4: of flight. Remember we had two planes. Oh yeah, and 922 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 4: we had to be on a separate plane because they 923 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 4: didn't have enough room. 924 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 2: Who oversaw that sim that was a seamone wait the 925 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: trade plane trans No no notes those two drafts, Ray Farmer 926 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: farm Bill Kuharick. That's something I mean. 927 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 3: In his career, he's been in the league five seven, 928 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 3: nine years. 929 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 2: This is Cam Irving. 930 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 3: This will be his ten He started fifty eight games 931 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 3: in nine years. Yeah, thirteen of which came. 932 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 2: But he's still in better than Trent Richardson. So he 933 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: started Gilbert. 934 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he started thirty four games in his first 935 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 3: four years. He started twenty four games in the five 936 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 3: years since. 937 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: I got a couple of Super Bowl Kansas City, right, 938 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: he's a he is. 939 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 3: A Super Bowl champion, that is correct? How many times? 940 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 3: One time Super Bowl champ? And I believe Danny Shelton's 941 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 3: also a Super Bowl champion. 942 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 2: With New England on two times. I think Cam's got one. 943 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 2: Danny Shelton, who was the twelfth pick in the twenty 944 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 2: fifteen draft, is a two times. We took a d 945 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 2: tackle twelve, a non pass rushing d tackle twelve, twelve, 946 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: and we took a center. That's right. 947 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Danny Shelton produced in three years with Cleveland one 948 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 3: and a half sacks. 949 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,240 Speaker 2: That is wild. 950 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 4: You would have almost rather it had a first round pick. 951 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 4: No right, If that's what you're gonna do with them, 952 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 4: let's trade him up, trade them up. 953 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: You forget, forget about it. 954 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 4: Were you? 955 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: How did you do it? God bless you, just God 956 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 2: bless you. That's tough. That's tough sledding. That was tough. 957 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 2: That's a lot of tough sledding there. Former All Pro 958 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: safety Jamal Adams visiting Baltimore. That's happening today. There's a 959 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: time when it looked like he was gonna be like 960 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 2: a dude, and then it fill off a cliff in Seattle. 961 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 2: I feel like him going to Baltimore's gonna be like 962 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 2: when Earl Thomas went to Baltimore. Does have that kind 963 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: of that feel to it. T Higgins has not signed 964 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: the franchise tender. He's not expected to sign it. Higgins 965 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 2: would be ineligible to participate in CINCINNTI. He's OTAs and 966 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: cannot rejoin the team until he signs it. Well, he won't. 967 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: He's not gonna sign it. He'll probably My guess is 968 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: this will be obviously has set out all of this, 969 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 2: he'll probably hold out a little bit in camp and 970 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 2: then they'll get him in there and he'll be ready 971 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: to go. You have to remember this about t Higgins, 972 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 2: like in this wide receiver climate, he kind of needs 973 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: to have a year. Oh yeah, he's coming off of injury. 974 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 2: He wants to be paid like a one, like everybody. 975 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 2: He's a stud, no question no, but he kind of 976 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: needs He's going to be motivated to have a year. 977 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 2: So I don't think you have to deal with him 978 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: like sitting out the year and that's not happening. He's 979 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 2: gonna play and he needs to play well. I think 980 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: that's right. Justin Jefferson Michael Parsons are among the two 981 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 2: of the league stars absent from OTA's I think that 982 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson piece is going to be really fascinating to 983 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: see how that all ultimately unfolds. Yeah. Yeah, because him 984 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: and he's got to go before Chase. They got to 985 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: get him in order first and then Chase would sign afterwards. 986 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 2: But Justin Jefferson, it's the time is now to do that. 987 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 4: Well, they were close last summer and then they were like, well, 988 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 4: the season is starting, so we're going to stop. And then, 989 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 4: like Tacy had said numerous times, they were close and 990 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 4: then backed off because either the season started or the draft. 991 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 4: This year, Mike, keep the negotiations going. Why are you 992 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 4: stopping any momentum there? 993 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder who benefits from it not getting 994 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 2: done last year like this Minnesota. But because he was 995 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: hurt last year. 996 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jefferson was hurt for a lot of the season. 997 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 3: He probably wants to know what they're what are their 998 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 3: what are your intentions the quarterback position? 999 00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: Guess he wants to. 1000 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 3: See if JJ McCarthy, do you have some juices? He 1001 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: have some Kirk cousins to them, and if so, let's go. 1002 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 2: Let's roll. Yeah, I mean ja don't want to get 1003 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 2: paid first, yes, yes, yeah, and they need to they 1004 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 2: should pay him. All right, We'll take a look at 1005 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 2: the rest of the AFC North starting lineups. I inched 1006 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: to take a look at this, this Raven's operation, and 1007 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 2: so we will do that. We will hand out some 1008 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 2: a We'll put together all AFC North offense uh, and 1009 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: then a little bit later we'll put together our all 1010 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 2: AFC North Defense. Second hour of the program coming up next, 1011 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: let's go to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1012 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bowley bed Now 1013 00:49:47,800 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight to fifty EESP and Cleveland. 1014 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: All right, welcome again, Cleveland Browns Only brought to you 1015 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: by Balley bat Sports being partner your Cleveland Browns Alive 1016 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 2: in Ohio and eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. Do you ever 1017 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 2: have this this hoodie I'm wearing it's it's it's nice, 1018 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: it's fine, very nice. I have certain articles of clothing 1019 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 2: that just have bad luck, and I have a light 1020 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: gray one that's similar to this, so like this, yeah, probably, 1021 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 2: And there's one here from like a bosomic, probably from 1022 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: a salad probably what it is, so it's probably ruined. 1023 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 2: Like I've worn this twice. It's small enough, but both 1024 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 2: times that I've done it, I've gotten some sort of 1025 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 2: an oil based thing on it. I hate it, and 1026 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: I just think it's cursed. It's done. You hate to 1027 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 2: see that it's not gonna work. I mean, I've worn 1028 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 2: it twice, both times, this has happened. This is where 1029 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 2: we're It's a nice cream. I like a cream, beautiful cream. 1030 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 2: It's it's cursed, just that simple. All right, NFL dot Com, 1031 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, the rest of the AFC North, all right, 1032 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 2: let's do Baltimore. This is one I was most curious about. Okay, 1033 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 2: in terms of what has happened there, they still got everything. 1034 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: They still got a lot. Okay, it's not quite what 1035 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 2: it was. 1036 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 3: They have an elite quarterback. They've got a very good 1037 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: but aging running back. They have one good receiver and 1038 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 3: Zay Flowers. They've got the tight ends Andrews unlikely, Andrew's 1039 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:27,720 Speaker 3: coming off of an injury. Their line is solid, Stanley's good, 1040 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 3: Linderbomb's very good. But this is rookie here, Rosen Gardens 1041 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 3: a rookie defensively, this is where they they lost. They 1042 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 3: did a good job of keeping matabek. But now van Ney, 1043 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: who went from rotational player, is now a starter. Gone 1044 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 3: is Clowney, who had nine sacks and played very very well. Carolina, 1045 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the money, Yeah, I get it, like 1046 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 3: chase it as long as you can, But like, holy 1047 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 3: smokes man, do you have just from my chorus right there, 1048 00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 3: do you know do you know that song the song 1049 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 3: an artist? 1050 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 2: I don't know, I do, I don't know the song 1051 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 2: that is the entrance song to one. Well, I know 1052 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: what McMahon. No, no, no, no no. But that's a good guess, though, 1053 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 2: that is a good guess. That's here comes the money. 1054 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 2: Oh money talks, Here comes the money. Is money money, No, 1055 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 2: this is not wrestling, it was. This was a song 1056 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 2: performed by a very famous athlete turned coach, coach prime. Yeah, 1057 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: it must be the money. Yeah, that's all that case. 1058 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 2: It must be the money. And he's like in various 1059 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: clubs and so he did like a yeah he did 1060 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 2: an album. Yeah, yeah, that's one of the that's one 1061 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 2: of the tracks. As an aside, if you're them, if 1062 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 2: you're Colorado, he's gonna be gone after this year. Yeah. Okay. 1063 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,479 Speaker 2: So they've sold out their season tickets in two straight 1064 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 2: years to their games, and ha done that since nineteen 1065 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: ninety six. Their enrollment their applications was record high applications 1066 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 2: to go to Colorado. I think in large part because 1067 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 2: of him and the kind of spotlight they had on 1068 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 2: their program. They got into the Big twelve. So they're 1069 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 2: not on the outside looking in like Oregon State and 1070 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 2: Washington State. But he has not recruited high school players 1071 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: in the last two years, like a total of like 1072 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 2: six players, like you're supposed bring in twenty five guys. 1073 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 2: He's just not doing it. His kid's gonna go pro's 1074 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 2: kid could be could be the first quarterback off the board. 1075 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 2: He might be the number one overall pick next year. 1076 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 2: Shitear Sanders. He's got a defensive back receiver named Travis 1077 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: Hunter who's also going to be a first round pick. 1078 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 2: He's gone to He is not, in my opinion, he 1079 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 2: is not going to go recruit it. Why would he 1080 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: liket go do this again? Like he's done it. Is 1081 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 2: it still a net win for Colorado? 1082 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 3: Yes, if they can then Land well the program bowl 1083 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 3: coach who can keep the program. 1084 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 2: It'll be in shambles when he's done, but it was 1085 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,280 Speaker 2: in shambles when he got it. They were the worst 1086 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 2: Power five program. So they're gonna have like this two 1087 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 2: years in the spotlight. Not a lot of wins, but 1088 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 2: financially they're gonna benefit. They're gonna benefit. 1089 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, those two years are yes, So then yes, yes, 1090 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 3: I think you're probably right. 1091 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right, Roqwand Smith Trenton Simpson at linebackers, so. 1092 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 3: That Trent Simpson is in for Patrick Queen, yep, Corners, 1093 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 3: Arthur Malette, brand Steep well one of them Marcus Peters yep, 1094 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 3: and that safety Hamilton and Williams. But they really played 1095 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,479 Speaker 3: three safeties and they played Hamilton at the nickel yep. 1096 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 3: And the third safety was Gino. 1097 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 2: Stone, who led the NFL interceptions a year ago, and 1098 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 2: he's in Cincinnati. That's right. Yeah, So that when people 1099 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 2: talk about them at the top of the division, what 1100 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 2: we just did there, that exercise explains why perhaps there 1101 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 2: could be some doubt there, let alone their entire defensive 1102 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 2: staff yep. Gone as well, h Cincinnati. It's weird not 1103 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 2: seeing Mixon at running back. Yeah, Burrow, Zach Moss, Jamar 1104 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 2: and t Jermaine Burton the rookie out of Alabama, Drew 1105 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 2: Sample at tight end, and then Orlando Brown, Correl Volson, 1106 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 2: Ted Kerris, Alex Kappa, and Trent Brown on the offensive front. Okay, defensively, 1107 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,439 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson should be his last year there, very likely, Yeah, 1108 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 2: both he and t probably both bj Hill, Sheldon Rankins 1109 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 2: in the middle, Sam Hubbard at end. The linebackers are 1110 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 2: Logan Wilson, Germain Pratt, and Sheldon Rankins sorry to replace 1111 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 2: his DJ reader. Yeah, it was very good, YEP, corners 1112 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 2: Cam Taylor, Britt, DJ Turner, and Mike Hilton. Dax Hill, though, 1113 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 2: is going to get a chance to start at corner. 1114 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: Dax Hill is definitely going to get a chance to 1115 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 2: start at corner. I also don't see Von Bell in 1116 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 2: this projection over over Jordan Battle. It would be Von Bell, 1117 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 2: so I think it'll be Von Bell and Gino Stone. 1118 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 2: I think it'll be dax Hill is going to be 1119 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 2: one of the corners YEP on that part YEP, which 1120 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 2: brings us to Pittsburgh. So he projects Justin Field. So 1121 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 2: this is what he writes about that Justin Fields and 1122 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson are such similar players. I expect the Steelers 1123 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 2: will go with the younger, more explosive version once they 1124 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 2: see them side by side. If Wilson wins the week 1125 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 2: one job, Fields is my pick to play the most games. 1126 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: Even if Wilson wins first of the job, Fields is 1127 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 2: my pick to play the most games. We had done 1128 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 2: that on this show, Like you have to start Fields 1129 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 2: at some point to see what you have. Yeah, it 1130 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 2: does feel like it's set up to be Wilson though. 1131 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 3: Right, I would think so, I would think so. But 1132 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna want to see at some point, 1133 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 3: depending on how things are going, You're gonna want to 1134 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 3: see Fields because you then need to make a decision. 1135 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 3: Are you keeping Fields in your program? 1136 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: You have to know what you have in him? All right? 1137 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: You ready to do this? Yeah, I've got it all done. 1138 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's do. 1139 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 4: It, by the way, real quick, going back to the Steelers, 1140 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 4: Jalen Warren at running back. 1141 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,280 Speaker 3: Over a Well, so here's the thing about the Steelers, 1142 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 3: so we didn't really go Let's go through the whole 1143 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 3: thing real quickly, because then we can we can even 1144 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 3: a right come back and we'll. 1145 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: Do this Fields and Jalen Warren it and then Jalen 1146 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 2: Warren and nausey splitting running back. But he has Warren first, 1147 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 2: George Pickens, Roman Wilson, Calvin Austin or the receiver and 1148 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 2: no Deonta not. 1149 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 3: To say that that Roman Wilson won't be good, although 1150 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 3: he fell I think a little bit further than most 1151 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 3: people thought he was going to. Calvin Austin is just 1152 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 3: stepping in as somebody who really has not. They feel 1153 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 3: kind of like a one trick pony at wide receiver 1154 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 3: right now. 1155 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 2: Well, in volatile at that, because Pickens is volatile. He's 1156 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: quite valiable. Friarmouth at tight end, Fatnu at left tackle, 1157 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 2: Siamalo at left guard. Fraser, Daniels and Jones are the 1158 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 2: rest of your offensive line. The rookiees. That's the young kids. 1159 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 3: Rookie last year's first round pick, Jones felt the News. 1160 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 3: This year's first round pick, Zach Fraser is a rookie 1161 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 3: as well. 1162 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 1163 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 3: So it is not in any way, shape or form 1164 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 3: an established room there, your wide receivers I was referencing earlier. 1165 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: Not an established room there. 1166 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 3: It's a rookie. And then Austin in his rookie season 1167 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 3: at seventeen catches for one hundred and eighty yards. 1168 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean, but we're about to get to why they 1169 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 2: think they'll probably be okay okay, and how they'll somehow 1170 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 2: still be a winning operation. Yes, every year they win. TJ. Watt, 1171 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 2: Can Hayward, Keanu Benton and Oga Joby up front with 1172 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 2: Alex Smith Smith as the other edge in their three 1173 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 2: four set. Uh Patrick Queen linebacker. He is there as well. 1174 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 2: They got Joey Porter Junior and Dante Jackson as the 1175 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: two corners and the three safeties as Minca, Deshaun Elliott 1176 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 2: and demonte Kazi. Yeah, they're back in is bad. It 1177 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 2: is not joy because it's very good, but the rest 1178 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 2: of it is shady. Here's the thing with them defensively 1179 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 2: at every position in the group. Though they do have 1180 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 2: a dude, yes, like a straight dude at every position, yes, 1181 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 2: but they don't have the overall depth that the tw're 1182 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 2: used to. Why don't we whyn't we take a break? 1183 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 2: We will gather our thoughts a little. You want to 1184 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 2: take a break together, our thoughts. Why don't we take 1185 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 2: our break break and gether our thoughts. Then we'll do 1186 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 2: the offense. I like that? Interested in that? Can they 1187 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 2: interest in that? 1188 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 4: Quite? 1189 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 2: We'll do that. Coming up next Cleveland b fifty ESPN. 1190 00:58:53,400 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you Ye Balley bed 1191 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 1192 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 2: And it's spoke here for my team at renew Home Exteriors. 1193 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 2: It's time to update the exterior of your home. 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This is a new estimate 1201 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 2: dot com for more. 1202 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 4: All right, you ready for this? 1203 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 2: All AFC North born Ready, All AFC North offense? 1204 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Uh? 1205 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Should we start up front? You can go here? This 1206 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 2: is your I'm just here. Let's start up as a 1207 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 2: vessel at right? Tackle Sir, who. 1208 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 4: Do you have? 1209 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 3: Dewan Jones? And I don't even think that's even remotely 1210 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 3: a homer pick. I think if you were to ask 1211 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 3: t J. Watt who gave him the most trouble, if 1212 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 3: you asked Nick Bosa who gave the most trouble last year, 1213 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 3: they would tell you the same person. And if that's 1214 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 3: the case, I think that's who it is. The competition 1215 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 3: would be Roger Rosengarden, rookie. Haven't seen him for the 1216 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens Broderick Jones first year in going into his 1217 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 3: second year for the Steelers, who was nothing special. 1218 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 2: And then the aged veteran Trent Brown. But gimme Dewan Jones, 1219 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 2: big thanos, big thanas sharpie yep, right guard. That's easy, 1220 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller, Wyatt Teller, I. 1221 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 3: Mean other opportunity option Ben Cleveland and Baltimore. You've got 1222 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 3: James Daniels with the Steelers now, and then Alex Kappa 1223 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 3: with the Bengals. 1224 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 2: No, all right, uh, center, I think this is where 1225 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 2: it's probably got to be linder Bomb, right, Yeah. I 1226 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 2: got Linderbaum on there with posik As kind of a 1227 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: as a close second, but that is Linderbaumb for me. 1228 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 2: He's been didn't Was he a pro bowler last year? 1229 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 2: He was one of those guys out of Iowa that 1230 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 2: I think it's probably what the Bengals thought they were 1231 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 2: drafting and Billy Price and when they drafted him in 1232 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 2: the first round of play center lender Bomb was out 1233 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 2: at of Biowa like it was just like, yeah, he's 1234 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 2: he's ready to go. I think he may have been 1235 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 2: a pro bowler. Put him, put him, plug him in 1236 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 2: week one, let's go yea pro bowler. He's pro bowler 1237 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, yeah, that's the answer. Left guard, mister Potonio, 1238 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 2: this spot is yours. That's right pretty unanimously. Yep. Uh, 1239 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 2: left tackle gotta be Ronnie Stanley. Right, so it's or 1240 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Lando Brown junior. What are the what does the numbers 1241 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 2: say on that? That's a minute, that conversation. 1242 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to look this up right now. Stanley's 1243 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 3: obviously had the better career. I'm just trying to see 1244 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 3: if either one were was a pro bowler last year. 1245 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 2: But our internet is oh so very slow, so I 1246 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 2: don't know Orlando Brown junior last year you were looking 1247 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 2: at He's a four time pro bowler. 1248 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 3: Most Stanley's a one time pro bowler, one time All Pro, 1249 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 3: and that was back in twenty nineteen. 1250 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: So maybe it is Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown Pro Bowl 1251 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 2: most recently twenty twenty two with Kansas City. He was 1252 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 2: four years in a row. He's super pro bowler nineteen 1253 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, twenty two Brown. So that's that's Cincinnati. 1254 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 2: That's the first Bengal so far. Right offive line, you've 1255 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 2: got a Sincy three CLEAs yep, and a Baltimore and 1256 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 2: a Baltimore. It's Baltimore, gentlemen. All right, all right, tight end, 1257 01:02:59,360 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 2: I got. 1258 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 3: The Chief, and I know that Mark Andrews probably would 1259 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 3: be the one in years past coming off of a 1260 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 3: significant injury. Chief makes a Pro Bowl or Chief's a 1261 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 3: better blocker, and Chief is younger, So I'm gonna I 1262 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 3: think Mark Anders and I'm fine with it. I don't 1263 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 3: even feel like that's Homerism with what we saw from 1264 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 3: the Chief. 1265 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 2: Typically with Homerism, you don't think that it's homerism fair, 1266 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 2: But I am very well aware at times when I 1267 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 2: do think it is homerism. Last year, like who you 1268 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 2: were selling us being number one on the waiver wire? Yeah, 1269 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 2: you're like a big, great asset, Mark Andrews. This is 1270 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 2: a good division for tight ends though it is. Yeah, 1271 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 2: and Friarmuth is good as well. The Bengals they're a 1272 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 2: distant third in this one. But I think coming off 1273 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,439 Speaker 2: of a Pro Bowl year last year and career highs 1274 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 2: across the board, and what he is is a blocker, 1275 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 2: David Djoku over Andrews who did not make the Pro 1276 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Bowl last year. So we've got in our first six, 1277 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 2: We've got four Browns. Yeah, first six all right wide receiver. Uh, 1278 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Jamaar Yep, this is tough if you're just going three here, 1279 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 2: because Higgins would normally be on it, but he was 1280 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 2: banged up last year. Pickens certainly deserves some consideration, Zay 1281 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 2: Flowers deserve some consideration, and our guy Amari deserves some consideration. 1282 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 2: But I think those are the guys for two spots. 1283 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 3: So I had Jamar t and Amari is what I 1284 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 3: had on mine. I can be talked I'm not gonna 1285 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 3: be talked out of Jamorrow Mari. Mari's I'm off for 1286 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl. Yeah, twelve hundred and fifty yards. I could 1287 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 3: be talked into Pickens over. 1288 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 2: T Higgins. Probably it would make sense for it to 1289 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 2: be Pickens Flowers. I like flowers. Let's let's see you. 1290 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look up Zay. How close were Zay Flowers? 1291 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 2: You got? You got Pickens's stats for me? Yes, let's 1292 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 2: compare so Zay Flowers Uh, seventy seven for eight fifty 1293 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 2: eight Pickens is sixty three eleven forty and five eighteen 1294 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 2: point one years with incompetent quarterback play. Yes, so right 1295 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 2: now I feel like Pickens. But what about what's so 1296 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 2: Tea was injured last year, but Tea's career two thousand 1297 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 2: yard seasons, we still had nine. He still had so 1298 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 2: he went nine O eight thousand and six, six fifty 1299 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 2: six last year. Pickens eleven forty is more than he 1300 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 2: ever had at any point in his career. Yeah, I mean, 1301 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 2: I think it's Pickens, and especially when you like, if 1302 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 2: I were putting the other a team, I would rather 1303 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 2: have T. Higgins then Pickens. I don't. I don't know, No, 1304 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 2: I would because I would. I'd rather have a healthy T. 1305 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 2: Higgins because I I don't have to worry about what 1306 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 2: I gotta worry yet that. But I'm just saying, you 1307 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 2: have you were put together. 1308 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 3: A team, I have a Mari in the slot. I'd 1309 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 3: go a Mari in the slot with Pickens and Jamar 1310 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 3: Chase outside. I feel pretty good about it. 1311 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 2: I feel pretty good. Yeah, Higgins can do that outside work. Yeah, 1312 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 2: all right, So what do we end up with? 1313 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 3: We end up with Pickens, Pickens, Chase and Amari, and 1314 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 3: I think the honorable mentions would be Higgins, Zay Flowers, 1315 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 3: and then you hope Jerry Judy's in that conversation. 1316 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 2: All right, So right now, one, two, three, four, five, Browns. 1317 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 2: The rest of the division has four people. That's right, 1318 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 2: all right. Running back Derrick Henry normally be Chubb, but 1319 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 2: it's not Zach Moss. I'd like I actually like Warren. 1320 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 4: I do too. 1321 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 2: We're playing a spread situation. It's probably Henry's probably the 1322 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 2: right answer. It is. I'm not gonna overthink it. But like, 1323 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 2: at the same time, like how much where is left 1324 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 2: on those tires? I don't know. 1325 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 3: That's the thing that the two best running backs in 1326 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 3: the division have, you know, question marks. For Henry, it's 1327 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 3: his age, all of that, what he's done. I mean, 1328 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 3: he still ran for twelve hundred yards and twelve touchdowns 1329 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 3: a year ago on a bad Tennessee team. Yeah, he's 1330 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 3: one year move from running for fifteen hundred and thirty 1331 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 3: eight and thirteen touchdowns. Is he gonna average five yards 1332 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 3: of carry anymore? 1333 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 2: No? But is he a beast still? Yes? Still, yes, yes, 1334 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 2: I mean Jalen Warrens. It's just it's like ropes off 1335 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 2: the goodyear blimp. I mean, he's got to he's got 1336 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 2: to earn his way into that conversation. That's true, all right. 1337 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 2: At quarterback, I mean it's got to be Lamar annihilating MVP. 1338 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 2: And I also think Burrow coming off of two or 1339 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 2: four seasons with with miss two four seasons in the league. 1340 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,479 Speaker 2: I mean that's a real one for here for him. Yeah, 1341 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 2: I mean it is. I think that. 1342 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 3: So we have you like the way that that Burrow 1343 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 3: operates from the pocket and his good is obviously very 1344 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 3: very good. 1345 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 2: But Lamar's two time MVP. He changed. 1346 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 3: The issue is then you have to play different style 1347 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 3: of offensive LAMI here's the ruback, but he's the best. 1348 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 3: He is the best quarterback on paper right now. 1349 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 2: In this in this conference. And yet if you were 1350 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 2: at division, if you had the rest of this roster, 1351 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 2: you would not pick him. You'd want Burrow. Yes, So 1352 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 2: that's the thing that's And Burrow's actually done it in 1353 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: the postseason in terms of going to Kansas City and 1354 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 2: winning and those type of things, and Lamar just hasn't 1355 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 2: done that yet. It's a weird one with Lamar, right, 1356 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he's unanimous MVP, he won the MVP last year, 1357 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,640 Speaker 2: and yet like is there another sport doppelganger for it 1358 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 2: where on a week to week it's just imp maybe 1359 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,560 Speaker 2: like Russell Westbrook when he won the Triple Crown and 1360 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 2: like back in the day, like now you can't even 1361 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 2: get your mind around that. But he was so dominant, 1362 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 2: like in the regular season, like the most dominant force. 1363 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,679 Speaker 2: He averaged a triple double. Yeah, but then it would 1364 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 2: get to the postseason and it it's like playing a 1365 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 2: team that I mean, you have to. 1366 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 3: Go way way way way, way way back and I'm 1367 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 3: gonna maybe I even don't know if I have this right, 1368 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 3: but like playing a Nebraska team that was running like 1369 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 3: wishbone on you, yeah, and you just weren't used to it. 1370 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 3: And so is one week as a total anomaly. 1371 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: The difference, though, is those Nebraska teams then won the 1372 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 2: national title. Yes, they did go on to win it 1373 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 2: like that was that would end just as a one 1374 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 2: week statistically, it's very difficult to make the say maybe, 1375 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 2: but maybe doesn't like they do. Yeah, they they That 1376 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 2: is the good one. The difference is they just don't. 1377 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 2: They're not illegal, no, never, No. Westbrook's the best one 1378 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 2: I can come. 1379 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 4: Up if you were if you're a non Cleveland fan, 1380 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 4: here's your beef. 1381 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like how many of us are on here. 1382 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 2: The beef would be you would say it would probably 1383 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 2: be with Chief, and it would probably be with Dewan. 1384 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 2: I don't think so with Dwan. I think he's kind 1385 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 2: Maybe why be with Chief for White? But who's there's 1386 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 2: an the guard to put over Wyatt? And who's gonna White? 1387 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 2: It's been a probably three years. 1388 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 4: In a row. 1389 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 2: He's been All Pro twice. Yeah, Chief was the best 1390 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 2: tight end in the division last year. 1391 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe they would have an argument about Coop, 1392 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 4: but I don't think so. I don't I don't give 1393 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 4: them the production. I don't think so. No. 1394 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 2: In fact, you know, yeah, no, I don't think so. 1395 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 2: I think you know, maybe like if you're Cincinnati, you say, well, 1396 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 2: it's got to be Chase Ann Higgins. Yeah, that would 1397 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 2: be That was my original thought. Yeah, yeah, but that's probably. 1398 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 4: But if we're but if we're judging people or almost 1399 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 4: counting against them because they're coming off of injury, then 1400 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 4: I think Higgins has to be in that same thing. 1401 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Najoku last year eight hundred and eighty two yards, 1402 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 3: six touchdowns. 1403 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 2: You have to convince us I was given just was 1404 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 2: curious just from a beach. Now, I think he would 1405 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 2: that's fair. I was just gonna look up real quickly. 1406 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 2: Why is my phone faster than my opinion. Deep thoughts, 1407 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 2: Who are you looking for Mark Mark anders career season 1408 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 2: by season? Because I'm pretty sure Mark Andrews he had 1409 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 2: one thousand yard season. I know that. I mean there 1410 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,719 Speaker 2: was a there was a time where he was really 1411 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 2: he was the best tight end. So last year last 1412 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,719 Speaker 2: year was forty five for five forty four, six touchdowns. 1413 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 2: Year before that seventy three for eight forty seven. 1414 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 4: How many games are you play? Last year? 1415 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 2: For some reason, I don't know why, the program was hurt. 1416 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 4: The thing is not I was gonna say he missed. 1417 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 4: He got hurt twice the one time they thought he 1418 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 4: was out for the year. 1419 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 3: All right, So his career he had in nineteen, eight 1420 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 3: fifty two and ten, seven oh one and seven and twenty, 1421 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 3: he had thirteen sixty one and nine and twenty one 1422 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 3: when he went nuts, twenty twenty two, eight forty seven 1423 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 3: and five, and then last year of five forty four. 1424 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 3: The reason that I was the point I was just 1425 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 3: making was that Chiefs last year. And Andrews has always 1426 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 3: been the leading receiver on that team. His eight eighty 1427 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,559 Speaker 3: two or this would be the second most that Andrews 1428 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 3: ever had. It's better than all but one of Andrews's seasons. 1429 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the one, the one year Andrews got one hundred 1430 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 2: and fifty three. Looks it's a lot of targets. It's 1431 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. I think based 1432 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 2: on where we are now, though, I think it all 1433 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 2: adds up. Yes, he adds up just fine. I think 1434 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 2: it does all right. I said, we have a great roster. Yeah, 1435 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,679 Speaker 2: well we all know we we gotta be good. Yeah, 1436 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 2: we gotta gotta get it out of it. Got to 1437 01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 2: get healthy to Sean, and then the way you go, 1438 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 2: that's it. We'll do the defensive side of things. Coming up. 1439 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 2: Nextell also here from Rodney Mcloudy joined the NFL Network 1440 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 2: to talk about his decision to stay here in town. 1441 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 2: We get to that coming up nextualist to Cleveland Rose 1442 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 2: Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1443 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Balley bed Now 1444 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1445 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,759 Speaker 2: Hey, Browns Fans, check out vid Seats official fan experience 1446 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 2: packages for this season's games. 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Now here's 1449 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 2: Rodney McLoud who joined the NFL Network to talk about 1450 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 2: his decision to stay here in town and how it 1451 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 2: will be his final year in the league. 1452 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 5: After the season, even announced by the Browns that they 1453 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 5: were running it back with Rodney McCleod, and then Rodney 1454 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 5: making some news with his quote tweet saying beyond grateful 1455 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 5: to run it back in Cleveland for one last lap. 1456 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 5: And so now the twelve year veteran and Super Bowl 1457 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 5: champion Rodney McLeod joining us now on Total Access. Rodney, congratulations, man. 1458 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,759 Speaker 5: I looked at that tweet and we got a farewell 1459 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 5: tour coming up. 1460 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 2: Congratulations man, thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah, this is 1461 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 2: the last lap for me. 1462 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 6: It's been a long career, prosperous one one that many 1463 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 6: didn't anticipate when I started out being undrafted, but I've 1464 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 6: been able to achieve a lot and looking forward to 1465 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 6: just rocking out with my teammates this year, giving it 1466 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 6: my all and hopefully ending up where we ultimately want 1467 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 6: to be. And that's a part of that last dance 1468 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 6: at the end of this year and. 1469 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 5: The thirteen seasons, becoming a rarity, may guys being able 1470 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 5: to make the decision on their own terms, of course 1471 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 5: ultimately a rarity. Why did you make the decision to 1472 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,639 Speaker 5: do that last lap in Cleveland? 1473 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 6: I made a decision to make this the last lap. 1474 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 6: Just felt as though last year was left incomplete. I 1475 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 6: wanted a complete year. I pride myself on availability and 1476 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 6: being durable, and so for me, this year is finishing 1477 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 6: unfinished business. I would say I felt like I left 1478 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 6: food on the plate right and I'm hungry, And I 1479 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 6: think I could say the same for a lot of 1480 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 6: my teammates. We got better this offseason and we're going 1481 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 6: to pretty much leave off where we where we ended 1482 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 6: last year. We're going to come into the season ready 1483 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 6: prepared and hungry than we were last year to go 1484 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 6: out and hopefully obtain what we desire. 1485 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 5: And one of your teammates, Greg Newson, as soon as 1486 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 5: the injury happened, just highlighted all the contributions that you made, 1487 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 5: how crucial you were to the defense, and the numbers 1488 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 5: proved that out the opponent scored eight more points a game, 1489 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 5: they got over sixty more yards a game after your injury. 1490 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 5: What do you think happened to the defense down the stretch. 1491 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 6: Right, I mean, you can point to a lot of things. 1492 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 6: Not one man can, you know, determine an outcome. And 1493 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 6: I don't classify myself as as it's an ultimate team sport. 1494 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,600 Speaker 2: You know, there's just some things that we have to 1495 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 2: get better at. 1496 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,719 Speaker 6: And you know, we took a close look at ourselves 1497 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 6: this offseason and figured out ways for us to get better, 1498 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 6: which every team has done and is going to do. 1499 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 6: So you know, it's important that we learned from those 1500 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:50,680 Speaker 6: lessons and we turn that into strengths of ours going 1501 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 6: into this season. 1502 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 5: And Miles started out the season as a defensive player 1503 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 5: at your pace, he was incredible. Had the late shoulder injury. 1504 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 5: Just how much from your perspective did you see Miles 1505 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 5: playing through towards the end of the year. 1506 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 6: Man, Miles is an incredible player, one that we haven't 1507 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 6: seen and I'm fortunate enough to be two lockers down 1508 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 6: from him, so I can see it every single day. 1509 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 2: But he's he's as much as he's. 1510 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 6: An incredible player on the field, he's an incredible teammate 1511 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,560 Speaker 6: who gives it all, loves the city of Cleveland, and 1512 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 6: gives everything that he has, you know, every time he 1513 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 6: lines it up, and that's what you have to That's 1514 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 6: what you love most about a player like that who 1515 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 6: is as dominant as him but has a heart to serve, 1516 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 6: in the heart of a champion. 1517 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,559 Speaker 5: A little unfair feeling, Rodney looking across the league seeing 1518 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 5: fluctuations and the divisions, but in your division, things are 1519 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 5: consistent year after year, and it just becomes that much 1520 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 5: more difficult. 1521 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 4: To compete they. 1522 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 6: I saw something come out saying, you know, we're the 1523 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 6: best division in the league, and I think there's a 1524 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 6: lot of truth to that, and honestly, I think we're 1525 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,720 Speaker 6: up for the challenge. You wouldn't want it any other way. 1526 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 6: Who wants it easy? Right, That's my role, that's been 1527 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,560 Speaker 6: my journey. Is earned, not given. And we had to 1528 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 6: earn our stripes this year. We held that title last 1529 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 6: year as the best defense, and people are going to 1530 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 6: expect that from us, and we set a standard for 1531 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 6: ourselves here in Cleveland, and so we got to hold 1532 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 6: ourselves to that standard and that's the challenge for us. 1533 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 6: But I love the way that the team is constructed 1534 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 6: this year thanks to AB and we have a healthy 1535 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 6: team and I think That's going to be the key 1536 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 6: for us is health is the number one priority. 1537 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,719 Speaker 5: Ronnie, our good luck in season thirteen in the last 1538 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 5: lap of your career. 1539 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Total Access, Man, appreciate it. 1540 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 2: There you go, NFL Network, we were doing our all 1541 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 2: AFC North from NFL dot COM's Greg Rosenthal. We did 1542 01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 2: the offense already. We had one two three four five 1543 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,640 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, right, one, two, three four five. Yep, Cincinnati 1544 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 2: we had one two, just two Bengals starting on that. 1545 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 2: Baltimore we had three. Pittsburgh we had one to one. 1546 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:22,599 Speaker 2: That will change. That is your breakdown on the offensive side. Defensively, Uh, 1547 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 2: where do you want to start? You want to start 1548 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 2: up front again? Yeah? All right? Miles and TJ. Miles 1549 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 2: and TJ Watts, I think are blocks. 1550 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,919 Speaker 3: I mean, this division is so good in this respect 1551 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 3: that you could make the case for both Alex Hysmith 1552 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 3: and Trey Hendrickson, but unfortunately there can only be two. 1553 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's loaded. I mean, the 1554 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 2: defensive defensive ends in this in this and we're us 1555 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 2: this is what you get out of this division. It's 1556 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,679 Speaker 2: probably the SEBSTO division in football. The I mean Borrow 1557 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 2: isn't our quarterback, right right? That's how good the division is, 1558 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 2: right right, And a healthy Watson would be as good 1559 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 2: as any of it. And and he's not. He's not there. 1560 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,720 Speaker 2: You got a two time MVP at the top of it. 1561 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 2: So at the skill same questions we had, it received 1562 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 2: the most important positions. This division is absolutely loaded, all right. 1563 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,599 Speaker 2: On the interior of the defensive line. Cam Hayward would 1564 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:16,080 Speaker 2: be one. 1565 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 3: Coming off of a pretty bad year two sacks and 1566 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 3: eleven games hurt getting up there in age. Now he's 1567 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 3: gonna be thirty five this. 1568 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 2: Year, that's true, So I all it could be reputation. 1569 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 3: Go ahead, I really think what we should do here? 1570 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 3: And I had him in there. I matdam BK's a lock. 1571 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 3: Matdamay's coming off of just one hundred million dollars thirteen. 1572 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 2: Sacks or whatever it was. 1573 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 4: What if we do. 1574 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 2: Three edges in one defensive tackle, because you could line 1575 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 2: Miles up in a pit like on the inside if 1576 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 2: you needed to. Only if you think in this real world, 1577 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 2: you would go up to Miles, you yourself and say, 1578 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play you in the interior most of the season. Well, 1579 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 2: we're gonna play nickel and it's gonna be now gonna 1580 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 2: move around. You could go for that. I just think 1581 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,479 Speaker 2: I think we got to do I don't. I don't. 1582 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,719 Speaker 2: I think we got to do defensive tackle because otherwise 1583 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,120 Speaker 2: you're you could. I don't think you can cheat like 1584 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:15,559 Speaker 2: we the idea. It's hard. 1585 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 3: The problem is Trey Hendrickson, who had seventeen and a 1586 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 3: half sacks last year, deserves to be on this team. 1587 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,560 Speaker 2: But this this happens right like it happens with the 1588 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,120 Speaker 2: All Pro stuff, Like there's not enough position, like quarterback 1589 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 2: on All Pro, Like only one guy gets to be it. 1590 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,640 Speaker 2: You know, you go look at Tom Brady's like All 1591 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 2: pros in his career, it's only like three you know. 1592 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 2: It's it's tough. So I no, I think you got 1593 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,639 Speaker 2: to stay positionally, have to. So then the question becomes 1594 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 2: who is it? Well, Cam Hayward, Dalvin B. J. Hillam 1595 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 2: Hayward's resume for sure, but I think you sleep well 1596 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 2: at night with Cam Hayward. And like if you were 1597 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 2: going to go play all the other divisions, I understand, 1598 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 2: But if you're going to play all the other divisions 1599 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 2: in a game, and the four people that walk up 1600 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,439 Speaker 2: on the offensive line the first time is Garrett Hayward 1601 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,720 Speaker 2: made bouque wat you feel good about it? You go, 1602 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 2: I feel a little bit better if it was Hendricks 1603 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 2: and Garrett. I know, but we can't. But you can't 1604 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 2: tell Miles. You can't walk up the Miles and say 1605 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 2: you're gonna play de tackle this year. 1606 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 4: What are bj Hill's numbers? Are they worthy? 1607 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 2: Better? 1608 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:28,080 Speaker 4: Better? 1609 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 2: In sacks? He had four and a half sacks last year. 1610 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 2: Two tackles for a lost twenty one quarterback hits. No, 1611 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think it's I think it's 1612 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,880 Speaker 2: Cam down year thirty five, one more year out of him. 1613 01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:46,639 Speaker 2: It's fine. He's getting it on reputation more than based 1614 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 2: off of last year performance. And then you we'll see 1615 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 2: if he bounces back. 1616 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 4: All right. 1617 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:59,799 Speaker 3: Linebacker, So linebacker I've got, since there's only two, Roquan 1618 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 3: and I have Jok. And the reason for that is 1619 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 3: that Joka made the tackles for loss, all the things 1620 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 3: that he did. 1621 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 2: You had. 1622 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,560 Speaker 3: Both Queen and Jok were Pro Bowlers last year, So 1623 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 3: I think you almost have to kind of compare those. 1624 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,519 Speaker 3: It's those two, right, that would be for the other spot. 1625 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,160 Speaker 3: I don't think any of the Sincy, guys are. 1626 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 2: Going to crack it. Logan Wilson's probably your best, but 1627 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 2: he's he's a step down. 1628 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 3: So Queen, last year, one hundred and thirty three tackles, 1629 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 3: nine tackles for loss, nine TfL three point five three 1630 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 3: and a half sacks, one forced fumble, six passes defense, 1631 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:53,440 Speaker 3: and one interception. 1632 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 2: Right, I got jks here for you, Okay, Joka, last 1633 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 2: year you were looking for tackles one hundred tackles for 1634 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 2: loss twenty. Now one hundred and one tackles, twenty tackles 1635 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,200 Speaker 2: for loss. Your sack numbers are three and a half. Okay, 1636 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:19,920 Speaker 2: force fumble, two interceptions, force fumbles. There were one force fumble. Okay. 1637 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 2: How many passes defense, passes defense? Six? 1638 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 3: All right, So passes, defense, force fumble, sacks are all identical. 1639 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 3: More interceptions for JK, more tackles for loss or Joka 1640 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 3: more tackles overall for Queen, And I would say I 1641 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,679 Speaker 3: would rather have the tackles for loss. 1642 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue against j Oka. No, I mean, 1643 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 2: and Queen, I wrote him down. 1644 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:47,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he's definite and honorable mention, all right. You 1645 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,760 Speaker 3: could almost make the case that you could put a 1646 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 3: base defense here and do three linebackers, two corners, two safeties. 1647 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 3: Perhaps easier than three corners. We'll see when we talk 1648 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,120 Speaker 3: about the third corner. But yeah, all right, so we've 1649 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,799 Speaker 3: got two Browns defense so far, we've got two. 1650 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 2: Steelers, healers, two Ravens, no Cincinnati, two Ravens. Hold on, 1651 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 2: that's one Raven. So Ravens have hopefully since up twenty 1652 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 2: two at the end seven ten, sixteen, and we have yeah, 1653 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,720 Speaker 2: five left. So I'm missing somebody I got, I got you, 1654 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:20,400 Speaker 2: don't worry about it. 1655 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 4: He's safe. 1656 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 2: You're safe, all right. Corner Denzel yep, all right, Denzel 1657 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 2: is in. Then I mean Marlon, I was missing one Baltimore. 1658 01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 2: So I have Denzel, Marlon Humphrey and mj Emerson. Marlon 1659 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 2: Humphrey feels like and Denzel and Marlon feel like a lock, 1660 01:24:51,360 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 2: okay to me. And then the third corner, Uh so 1661 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 2: now you're it's it'd be MJ Jobody else Sincy, cam Taylor, Britt, 1662 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 2: Cam Taylor, Britt. Mike's not on, Gibbe. 1663 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,759 Speaker 4: Do you want third corner, third linebacker, third corner, third corner? 1664 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 2: All right? So m j Emerson you ready, So it's 1665 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior. It's m j Emerson, It's Cam Taylor Britt. 1666 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 2: M J Emmerson. 1667 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 3: Four interceptions, fourteen passes defense, and he had the lowest 1668 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,640 Speaker 3: quarterback rating allowed and. 1669 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 2: Coverage in the league. It feels like you can stop there. 1670 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 2: Let's at least go through the exercise. Which one are 1671 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 2: you doing? Porter Junior? Yeah? I Tatter Junior, All right, 1672 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,240 Speaker 2: you got him. I'm gonna do Cam Taylor Porter Junior. 1673 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 2: One interception, ten passes defense and had one of the 1674 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:56,799 Speaker 2: highest penalty rates. What's Cam Taylor Britt efforting? Cam Taylor Britt? 1675 01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,840 Speaker 2: What did we What are you looking for? So he 1676 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 2: had forty tackle, one force fumble, four interceptions, passes defense, 1677 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:12,720 Speaker 2: passes defense eleven. So I think I'm jay. I think 1678 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 2: that's I think it's legit. Yeah, so that's that's I had. 1679 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 2: Those of the pushback from Cincinnati would be, you know, 1680 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 2: is MJ does does he have to always play? And 1681 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if Cam Taylor brit shadows or if 1682 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 2: he stays. I don't know, does he he's their best corner? 1683 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 2: I mean, so, I don't know. 1684 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 3: Flip side of that is that people are throwing away 1685 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 3: from so he gets a lot of smoke and has 1686 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:42,719 Speaker 3: had a nice accounting of himself. 1687 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 2: Well, I like, MG, he's he's been in here a lot, 1688 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 2: so I'm I'm a fan of that, so I'm cool 1689 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:48,320 Speaker 2: with it. 1690 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 4: All right. 1691 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,560 Speaker 2: So what I had missed earlier was one Baltimore, So 1692 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 2: now they're too less. Don't worry about that. I got 1693 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 2: don't worry about I want to make sure you get 1694 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 2: it right. I got it Tally, We're good. We got 1695 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 2: it all set, Yep, I'm a twin perfect safeties. I 1696 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 2: think it's pretty easy. I think it's Kyle Hamilton and 1697 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:10,639 Speaker 2: Minco with acknowledgments for Grant Delpit, Geno Stone and Marcus Williams, 1698 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 2: Manco and Kyle. Yeah, it's funny Kyle Hamilton, both Kyle 1699 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,200 Speaker 2: Hamilton and Patrick Queen I was doing at those times, 1700 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,800 Speaker 2: I was doing the draft shows with you and I'm like, yes, 1701 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,599 Speaker 2: we both were not said don't do that, and then 1702 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 2: they did and those guys have been great Manca. All right, 1703 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,400 Speaker 2: So what did the breakdown end up? So the breakdown 1704 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 2: ended up nine Brown, seven Ravens, four Steelers, two Bengals. 1705 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,679 Speaker 2: And yet if if you would I bet I would 1706 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,200 Speaker 2: bet you that if you get to a regular season 1707 01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 2: and everybody's healthy, Cincinnati will be probably the pick to 1708 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:54,760 Speaker 2: win the division perhaps, but will they but it goes 1709 01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,840 Speaker 2: to quarterback. Well, yeah, this is the that's the thing is, 1710 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 2: we have the roster. If you sean is DeShawn, then 1711 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,760 Speaker 2: go win the damn super Bowl. 1712 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:11,480 Speaker 3: If you had to Shawn twenty twenty, DeShawn was the expectation. 1713 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 3: We would be the prohibitive favorites to win our division. 1714 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 2: We would be if and saying who's going to be Boys, 1715 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 2: yes or you? That's it And look, there's a there's 1716 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,760 Speaker 2: some stuff. There's maybe a player too here or there, 1717 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 2: but it's not much and it just this is a 1718 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,920 Speaker 2: really good roster kids. Just the reality. 1719 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,160 Speaker 3: I would say the Ravens also probably get I'd say 1720 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,599 Speaker 3: Justin Tucker and then Duverne on the returner would. 1721 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,679 Speaker 2: Probably both be Ravens as well. Might be the punter, 1722 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,320 Speaker 2: might be he might be the punter. Certainly not the Steelers. 1723 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know who punts for the Bengals. The 1724 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 2: rookie wasn't even rookie. Ot of like, yeah, be York 1725 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 2: has a stud morecus can boom in. Yeah, So there 1726 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,479 Speaker 2: you go, and we have the coach time Coach of 1727 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 2: the Year. What do you want here? He is Lebowski 1728 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 2: in it. That's interesting. Do you think the perception would 1729 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,400 Speaker 2: be that we have the best coach in the division 1730 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,680 Speaker 2: even though he's won two Coaches of the Year in 1731 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:10,320 Speaker 2: last four No, I would I would think that probably 1732 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,960 Speaker 2: most of it would go to Harbaugh or to Super 1733 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,800 Speaker 2: Bowl both one of both won Super Bowls. Zach's bennon one. 1734 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 2: That's what's crazy. I mean, we have two super Bowl 1735 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 2: winning coaches. How many divisions could could boast of coaching 1736 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 2: resume that includes two Super Bowl winners, a AFC champion, 1737 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,640 Speaker 2: and a two time Coach of the Year that we 1738 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 2: have all of that in this division. 1739 01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,839 Speaker 3: Every coach in the division is either one the conference, 1740 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:35,720 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, or been named Coach of the Year 1741 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 3: multiple times. 1742 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, no, not Matt. That's pretty good. So 1743 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:40,840 Speaker 2: much more to come. You'll listen to Clear the Browns 1744 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,280 Speaker 2: Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1745 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,439 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally bed Now 1746 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,759 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1747 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,840 Speaker 7: I mean, I was I there was a real end 1748 01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,559 Speaker 7: of that story. That was a fun story. I've been 1749 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,000 Speaker 7: plenty of time we got No, we don't have plenty 1750 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,280 Speaker 7: of a minute. There was so much time, less than. 1751 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 2: A minute, so much Yeah, how much time to have 1752 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:33,960 Speaker 2: right now? 1753 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:35,960 Speaker 4: Thirty seconds? 1754 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 2: See I could we could come back. I could do 1755 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 2: it in five. 1756 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:41,640 Speaker 4: We could do it in five where this conversation is 1757 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 4: not over. No show behind the show. 1758 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got our first in person. Look at 1759 01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 2: the Brownies tomorrow. Tomorrow. That'll be fun. You have that 1760 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 2: to look forward to, which is nice, very nice. The 1761 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,800 Speaker 2: network more than three hours is coming coming up decks 1762 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 2: while 1763 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,640 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1764 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,879 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland