1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio, Hey 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: brain Stuff Lauren Vogel bomb here. NASA has announced that 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: it will launch a space probe called Dragonfly on an 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: ambitious mission to Saturn's moon Titan, in which a robotic 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: rotorcraft lander will fly around, tighten surface and touch down 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: in various places. As part of its exploratory mission. The 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Dragonfly space probe will look for traces of chemical processes 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: similar to the ones that led to life on Earth, 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: in addition to gathering other information about the Moon's surface 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: and atmosphere. Dragonfly will launch in six and arrive at Titan, 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: which is eight eighty six million miles that's one point 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: four billion kilometers from the Sun, in four oh Once 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: it's there, the space probe, which is about the size 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: of the Space Agency's Spirit and Opportunity Mars rovers, will 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: turn on eight rotors and fly through titans dense, hazy atmosphere, 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: which is about four times the density of Earth's, and 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: explore it's still mysterious surface. Titan is the biggest Saturn 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: sixty two moons, and a close second in moon size 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: in our Solar system after Jupiter's moon Ganymede. Titan has 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: a rat is of about sixteen miles or KOs, making 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: it about fifty wider than Earth's Moon, but it's not 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: just tightened size that has made it a long time 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: object of fascination to scientists. Titan is also the only 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: moon in the Solar System with much of an atmosphere, 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: and it's the only slot in the Solar System besides 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: Earth that's known to have liquid rivers, lakes, and seas 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: on its surface, though the latter are made up of 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: liquid hydrocarbons such as methane and ethane. Titans also believe 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: to have an underground ocean of water deep beneath its 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: icy surface that could possibly have harbored some form of 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: life or may still contain it. The Titan surface is 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: brutally cold, like minus two hundred ninety degrees fahrenheit or 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: one and seventy degrees celsie is cold, but conditions in 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: a potential underground ocean are unknown. Titans thick atmosphere is 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: about nitrogen, with the rest mostly composed of methane that 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: creates a thick, orange colored haze that hangs over the 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: Moon's surface, making it difficult to observe from Earth. Much 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: of what we do know comes from the European Space 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Agency's hal Huns spacecraft, which landed on Titan and transmitted 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: data for seventy two minutes in two thousand five, and 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: from NASA's Cassini probe, which did multiple flybys of Titan 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: between two thousand five and twenty seventeen. Hal Hans was 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: actually attached to Cassini for the seven year trip to 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Titan's vicinity. Scientists are particularly excited about Dragonfly's ability to 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: fly rather than crawl along the ground, unlike Mars, where 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: NASA also plans to test a small robotic helicopter with 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: large high speed blades in Titan's atmospheres thick enough to 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: enable Dragonfly to attain lift with relatively small rotors and 49 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: to carry a bigger payload over longer distances than the 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: experimental copter being sent to Mars. It's expected to cover 51 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: more than a hundred miles or a hundred and seventy 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: five kilometers during its nearly three year mission on Titan. 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: It will fly in short hops of up to five 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: minutes at a time. We spoke via email with Jason Soderblom, 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: a research scientists in the Department of Earth Atmospheric and 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Planetary Sciences at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and one 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: of Dragonfly's co investigators. He explained flight allows us to 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: move the lander much greater distances in a short period 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: of time than a traditional rover, allowing us to more 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: efficiently explore Titan. We also spoke via email with Kurt Niber, 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: new Frontiers program scientist for NASA. He said the Dragonfly's 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: design is fundamentally different from the Mars helicopter quote not 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: just because the atmosphere of Titan and Mars are so different, 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: but because they are different vehicles. The Mars Helicopter is 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: a short lived technology demonstration with no science payload. Dragonfly 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: is a self contained spacecraft designed to pursue a science 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: mission with high autonomy. It's like comparing a self driving 68 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: car and an electric scooter. Both have wheels, but they 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: have very different purposes and therefore very different designs. The 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: researchers working on Dragonfly are excited about the opportunity to 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: investigate the giant Moon's many mysteries. Niber said, I'm looking 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: forward to Dragonfly finally giving us detailed answers about this 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: surface of Titan at the small scale, and not just 74 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: its composition, but also its geology, telling us about the 75 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: complex organic materials present there and how they interact, and 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: also giving us a good look at surface features like 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: dunes and the Selk crater. Cassini did a good job 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: at giving us broad answers to this question at the 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: large scale tens of miles, for example, but nothing beats 80 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: getting down to the surface and actually digging your hands 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: and feet in so to speak. Sotoblam also spoke to this. 82 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: He said, there's a plethora of unanswered questions about titan surface. 83 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: One fundamental question we have yet to answer is what 84 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: is the composition of Titan's major geologic units, or if 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: the water ice bedrock is exposed anywhere on Titan, or 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: if it's been buried beneath organic gunk. This is because 87 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Titan's atmosphere obscures the surface at most wavelengths, limiting our 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: ability to use traditional remote sensing techniques to study the 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: surface composition. Dragonfly's scrutiny of Titan's surface may also yield 90 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: insights about the Moon's atmosphere and the chemistry going on there, 91 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: which could in turn wind up helping us understand more 92 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: about ourselves. We also spoke with Sarah Horst, an assistant 93 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: professor in the School of earthen Planetary Sciences at Johns 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: Hopkins University who's also an investigator on the project. She 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: said that chemistry and the atmosphere is interaction with the surface. 96 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Quote is important for understanding the role that atmospheres may 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: play in the origin or evolution of life, and also 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: help us figure out what types of molecules may constitute 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: evidence for life when we're looking at observations far away 100 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: atmospheres like those of exit planets. Today's episode was written 101 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: by Patrick J. Tiger and produced by Tyler Clang. 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