1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Red and I 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: heart radio podcast. All right, you guys, So Tanya is 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: still in sat Bart's and Um, we had someone who 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: was willing and able to come on the podcast that 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: I could never pass up. So I am so loo 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: with the amazing, incredible Kate Wall. She's scrubbing in today, 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: I am Um. I mean, I don't know if you 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: realize that this podcast, like the name is kind of 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: inspired by Gray's Anatomy Scrubbing In. Okay, I did not 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: know that, so um and Tanya. I watched it from 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: like the very beginning, and Tanya binged it like in 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. However, I think there was like 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: fifteen seasons at that point. She being them all in 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: like three months, like it was her. It's all she 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: did outside of work. So when we started the podcast, 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: it just made sense to give an ode to you know, 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy, and we've gotten to have a lot of 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: the cast on and you're just like legendary for so 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: any ways, thank you. Um. If you don't know Kate, 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: she played Addison Montgomery on Grey's Anatomy. In Private Practice, 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: she was Um Hannah Baker's mom and thirteen reasons why 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: she's a Nimily in Paris Umbrella Academy. She does it all. Um, hi, Hi, 23 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: what is lifelike right now? I feel like you are 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of everywhere and doing everything I know. I am. 25 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I am. Let's see right now, I am 26 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: in my hotel room in Paris. M I'm shooting, which 27 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: might be it might be Emily in Paris, might be 28 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: might be? And um, yeah, so I've been here for 29 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: I'll be here for a while. And then but I 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, jeez, I since moving or since I left 31 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: Gray's in private practice, I um went into other stuff 32 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: and then moved back to New York and then now 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I live in Australia. Um, that's where I'm based. I 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: still in my apartment in New York, but I've been 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: there for the last couple of years. I got there 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: pretty much right before um that that global pandemic and 37 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: have been there ever since. So yeah, I did not 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: realize that you were in Australia. So you were there 39 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: right before everything shut down in Australia. It was pretty 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it was like the rules were tight and 41 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: there was no arguing, right, it was just everyone agreed 42 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: and went with it. There was there was nothing like 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: what transpired in the States and other parts of the world. 44 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: I think they had, you know, the luxury of geographical distance, 45 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: and we're able to sort of watch what transpired with 46 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: the rest of the world, and we're like, oh, okay, 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: weren't gonna just you know, lock our borders. And I 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: was in and have been in Western Australia, primarily in Perth, 49 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: which they only opened their state borders in international borders 50 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: in March March fourth. I think it was so we 51 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: were yeah, we were had closed borders for for over 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: two years and and closed and even initially when the 53 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: when the pandemic first happened, they closed the borders between 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: cities and towns. So um, but that was only four 55 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: about six weeks and then they opened it up, and 56 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: so it was kind of it was this weird alternate 57 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: reality that was COVID free, like zero okay, and if 58 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: there was even one case then everyone would mask up, 59 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: be mandatory like you stay in you know. So it 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: was like, oh, so it was so bizarre to see 61 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: like people in the rest of you know, thousands. Thus, 62 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: then you know, by that time, the good thing about 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: it was we were able to get vaccinated and everybody 64 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: was able to sort of you know, have double doses 65 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: and then even boosters by the time they opened up 66 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: the borders. So even though COVID game I got it, 67 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: everybody kind of got it was very mild symptoms, you 68 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: know for me. Yeah, so it was actually pretty incredible. 69 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: So well, did do you have ties in Australia or 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: was that like what was the I mean to pick 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: up and move across the world. That was just no. 72 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: I I went and for for love, I was there 73 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: and I met someone and so that's what I'm doing. 74 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, so he's based um in Australia, So I 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: am That's what I'm I am there. Wow, I love that. 76 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: That is like, you know, although Australia it feels like 77 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: a place that I would want to move to, even 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: if it was you know, for love or whatever, I 79 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: would be like, that's a place I'm willing to go. 80 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: There's other places where I'm like, how much do I 81 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: love you that I would go there? But I feel 82 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: like Australia's you know, there's a lot going on that sneaks, 83 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 1: do you see, like big snakes and spiders, Like people 84 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: talk about. Yeah, there's all the most dangerous things in 85 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: the world. They're like great white sharks, stars sharks, sharks, 86 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: um spiders, deadly spiders, deadly snakes, poisonous like crocodiles, like 87 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: like like there's freshwater crocs. There's most freshees are not 88 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: they call them freshies to make it sound cute, but 89 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: they're um, most of them are not kind of aggressive 90 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: or you know, they're like humans so much. But yeah, 91 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: it's like the most one of the most beautiful places 92 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: I've ever seen on the planet. And then it's also 93 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: there's like this undercurrent of danger. So yeah, yeah, a thrill. 94 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: Some would call it a thrill. Yeah exactly, it's exciting. 95 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: Keeps you on your toes. Yeah, I like that, You're 96 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: I like that. I mean you have to have a 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: silver lining viewpoint. Keeps you on your toes, just trying 98 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: to stay alive when you have like when you went 99 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: back to Grey's anatomy the past couple of seasons, was 100 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: it were you shocked or did you always think there 101 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: would be that? Was there always that open door of 102 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: like come back whatever. No, we had talked about it, um, 103 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it for a couple of 104 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: years now, Christopher Ernoff and I who's been running the show. 105 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean, she's been honest. At the very beginning, she 106 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: was Shaunda's kind of right hand out and then um 107 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: has done her own stuff and come come in and 108 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: out and back. But she's been running it for several 109 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: seasons now, so she approached me about coming and then 110 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: it was a conflict of time and scheduling, and then 111 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: um I was like, oh, I thought it was gonna 112 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: be the last season. I'm like, yeah, okay, come on, 113 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: I make it it happen and then lo and behol 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: they're going on, which because like it is, but the 115 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: writing is so good, and I think that infrastructure and 116 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: that's it's just a great storytelling place and it's in 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: the writing. I just think that's where it all starts, 118 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: you know, the writing, and of course the great cast 119 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: and UM and crew and you know. But it's yeah, 120 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: so I think that's so long as they we have 121 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: imaginations and they found up with stuff, it's you know, 122 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: like party on. Yeah. Well, it's funny you say that, 123 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: because I obviously watching from the beginning, it's still amazing 124 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: and I'll watch it until the final season happens. But 125 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: there is a difference when like characters like Addison, and 126 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's more um, I don't know, it's the character, 127 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: but it's also the actors. There's a certain chemistry that 128 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: you all had from the beginning, like the O G cast, 129 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: that you can't duplicate or replicate, And so every time 130 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: you've come back those episodes, I'm like, I loved that episode, 131 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, why why don't And it's always 132 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: because there's like some new stalgia to these like storylines 133 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: that make a comeback and come back around. But um, 134 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: I was also a huge fan of Private Practice, Like 135 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: I when you came on the show on Grayson on Me, Initially, 136 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: I was like, who is this coming in to destroy 137 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: Derek and meredith beautiful relationship. And then somehow with the 138 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: writing and I think that the charm you brought to 139 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the show, all of a sudden, you're like this beloved 140 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: character and it was like no one hated you anymore, 141 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: which I'm sure it was nice. I guess playing that role. Yeah, 142 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: it was funny. I mean it was you know, people 143 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: at that time was like message boards. There wasn't like 144 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: even Twitter or anything that was. You know, they're like, 145 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: are you reading the message? Where I was like, I 146 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: don't read the boy. I don't want to know. I think, 147 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: I am sure it's not pleasant, but I love being 148 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the battie. I love being The villains are fun to play. 149 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: But also Shana just has that and you know, of 150 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: course by extension, all the writers have that real ability 151 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: to take a you know, villain or perceived villain and 152 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: turned them on their back, and you know, you get 153 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: to see the tender underbelly and and not unlike an 154 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Australian crocodile there, but they you know, she's just great. 155 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's their multifaceted characters with all sorts of 156 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses and they're very human. And yeah, I 157 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think there's a nostalgia. Mean when 158 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: I went on, when I went back and did that 159 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: first episode this last season, and I I was, I 160 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: was super emotional and overwhelmed by seeing Allen and and 161 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: and you know, Chandra and Jim and and all the 162 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: crew that have been there and just like very email 163 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: like very uh it's very heavy and big. So I 164 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: can imagine what that must be like for an audience. 165 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Memor to see, you know, to see that person. So it's, um, 166 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: I do. I do love that and I love the 167 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: gravitas and the humor and everything that they bring to it. 168 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I feel like the Grace Fan are 169 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: loyal till the end of time. Like do you, I 170 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: feel like you've post you're really good on social media. 171 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have like a team or 172 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: if you're just like a like doing real it a little. 173 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: I do have an incredible team that are based on 174 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: our way. But I but they're the ones that are like, 175 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: you gotta get on TikTok and we all did that. Yeah, 176 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: and uh, now there's all these other platforms that are 177 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: my former assistant. I was just talking to him. He's 178 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: back in New York. He's like, oh, there's all these 179 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: other platforms and I don't even know about because I 180 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: was just working with you and so, um yeah, but 181 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: they help out a lot. But I love I mean, 182 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I do you know. I do all my own stories 183 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: and everything and you know, and um, they help out 184 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: with partnerships and like the one that I'm doing now 185 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: with UM Sustained Complete preservative free lubricating eye drops. You 186 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: try saying that, but it's all. But they help out 187 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: with that in terms of posting and getting and making 188 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: sure that it's you know, it's it's everybody's got eyes 189 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: on and the the best time so people can really 190 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: we can really make the most of connecting with people. 191 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I love and I love doing that. 192 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Um you know, with my own with my stories, I 193 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: basically just do my stories. There's gonna see a lot 194 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: like I do a lot of cats obviously sunset pictures 195 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: when I'm home in Perth and you know, so yeah, 196 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: I love sunsets. I love cat videos. When you um 197 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: talking about the eye drops, is that something that you 198 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: have always struggled with, like the dry eyes or what's 199 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: your story with that? I, um, I guess about seven 200 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: years ago. Um yeah, I started like kind of having 201 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of blurry like blurred vision to where 202 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: I thought, am I gonna need a prescription like glasses? 203 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: And I went to see my optometrists and they're like, no, 204 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: your vision, that's not possible, Like, no, you're feeling the 205 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: effect of blurry nous because your eyes are dry of 206 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: dry and it's actually a thing called dry eyes. I 207 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: was like, oh, um, and it's like now it's actually 208 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: quite common, and it is. It's thirty I guess about 209 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: thirty thirty three million Americans stuffer from dry eyes. And 210 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: it's not just so, it's not just of a certain 211 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: age or anything. It's everything and everything that we do 212 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: in modern culture, from travel to um to work and 213 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: in seasons and you know, can contribute to dry as 214 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: And obviously, um you know all the time like I 215 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: spend on screens, all of us exacerbate can exacerbate it 216 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: as well. But um, yeah, the I love sustain complete 217 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: UM because it's preservative free and UM, so I love 218 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: that aspect of it. It's clean. It's like clean from 219 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: I as. It doesn't you know how sometimes I've used 220 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: and eye drop. I don't know if you have this experience, 221 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: but it burns or it's yeah and you're like this, 222 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: how is this good? But this is just in it's 223 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: one drop and it lasts for eight hours like solid 224 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: and it's one drop. So I don't have to I 225 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: have it like literally everywhere. I have it tubes on 226 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: hand did because they're little. You just pop this bad 227 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: boy in um anything and we're bad girl. Uh, let's 228 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: not genderize it. Um. 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So you're letting everyone in on the news. Yeah, 239 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: and also just to be I mean, I feel like 240 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: you talk about it and people have access to it. 241 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: This is it's totally accessible. It's in any pharmacy over 242 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: the counter. You don't need a subscription. It's made by Alcohol, 243 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: which is a company I've always trusted and their products 244 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: are great. So if just people want to know more 245 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: about it, go to sustain dot com and you can 246 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: check it out for yourself. Or if you think you've 247 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: got because I literally thought, oh I'm gonna have to 248 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: have you know, glasses or just some drops, just some sustain. Yeah, well, 249 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,359 Speaker 1: if it's good enough for Kate Walsh, then there you everybody. 250 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: She has tubes surrounding her every anywhere she can grab. 251 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about your perfume line Boyfriend, because 252 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: I think that I love the name of it, and 253 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I think it's so cheeky and fun because um, it's 254 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: like the whole sentiment of spring perfume is kind of 255 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: being enveloped in that scent. And I love that it's 256 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: called Boyfriend. I think that's so fun. Thank you. Yeah, 257 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: how did the type the name come about? I have 258 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: a girlfriend, so I don't really relate to the you know, 259 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: but I could have a boyfriend and a girlfriend with 260 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: your perfume. Everybody can have a boyfriend. It doesn't matter 261 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: what you're what you're up to. I you know, I first, 262 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: I first came up with the idea. It was inspired 263 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: by a breakup with a real live boyfriend. And um, 264 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: and I was I remember this was so long ago, 265 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's born story, But I was in New York. 266 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: I was stopping at this department store which is now 267 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: no longer. It was an incredible shop called Jeffreys and Chelsea, 268 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: and and I was walking through the Frager's department. I 269 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: was like, I miss I missed, my, my, my guys 270 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: fragrant like what I missed? And I was like, and 271 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: then I started thinking, you don't have to have a 272 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: boyfriend to have a boyfriend. I could just have a 273 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: was like boyfriend in a bottle. It's just this idea 274 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: of boyfriend. I thought, that is such a good name. 275 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's I p is gone because they were 276 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: already like boyfriend jeans boyfriend, sure, boyfriend, you know, felt 277 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: our book bags, you know, the whole thing was already 278 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: kind of out. And and I thought, and also, there's 279 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: too many people that have too many fragrances. I've just 280 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: walked by a big you know poster Sarah Jessica Parker's 281 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: like second fragrance. And I was like, this is that's 282 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: a dumb idea, forget And then um, it wouldn't let 283 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: me go. The idea is like a little buzzing bee 284 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: and that's like, oh and the taglines and the story 285 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: of it and in sort of at that time, what 286 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: we would have described as like sort of the combination 287 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: of masculine and feminine, of that Nusley cozy feel. Um, 288 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: but now it's not. It's like just oh, those are 289 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: notes that are you know, a factive notes like that 290 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: our woods and Julie and and amber and you know, 291 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: and then vanilla and then what we used to classify 292 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: as more feminine notes of like fruits and florals and 293 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: all that. Anyway, it wouldn't leave alone. I called my 294 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: lawyer the I P was available. I took that as 295 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: a green light and I just went for it and 296 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: I started. I didn't do a licensing deal. I financed 297 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: it myself. I created it myself. It was all purely 298 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: personal and creative and you know, worked with an incredible perfumer, 299 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: Gibdon out of New York in Paris, and ended up 300 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: creating Boyfriend with a lot of hard work and a 301 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: lot of luck and and we got ourselves. That was 302 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: a top twenty fragrance at Sephora. It was. Yeah, it's 303 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: still killing it. We re launched and repackaged, like redesigned 304 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: the bottle and everything in twenty I think seventeen. Yeah, 305 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: and so we've been it's been great and during the 306 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: last two years have been our best sales. Yeah, that's amazing. Up. Yeah, 307 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: So it's been and we've expanded the product line, and 308 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: so it's been really incredible. Yeah. Well, I was thinking 309 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: it reminded me of how whenever you would have a 310 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: crush on someone and you'd want to spray their cologne 311 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: or perfume on your pillow, you know, Tubby next. Yeah, 312 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: the idea like I missed that smell of like I 313 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: remember me when I because I'm you know, eight years old, 314 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: but when I was in high school, it was like 315 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: Polo by Ralph Lauren, like in the nineties, dun Noir 316 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: and you just like these that I just loved, and 317 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I miss that, So yeah, you can't 318 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: have that. So you've been with your current boyfriend boyfriends 319 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: since before pandemic because you moved to Australia, right yeah, 320 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah, like way before then. Or was it 321 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: was it like fresh when he moved. Yeah, it was 322 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: just going to visit and um yeah, I was going 323 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: there to do some other press stuff and then it's 324 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna go visit him and just you know, see how 325 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: we go. And then it was like, oh, hey, global pandemic, 326 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're like literally the ends of the earth 327 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: for love. Yeah. Well, I felt like the pandemic, like 328 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people started dating right before the pandemic, 329 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: and then it was kind of like a really good 330 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: way to know if you really liked them or not, 331 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: because it was like you're spending it, I mean, depending 332 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: on how careful people were with their like you know, 333 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: quarantine circle or quarantine pot. It was like sometimes that 334 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: was the only people, the only person you were seeing. So, 335 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: like my girlfriend and I have been together since two 336 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, we really decided we liked each other because 337 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: it was like we were around each other seven and 338 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: didn't see anyone else for a long time. So I'm 339 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: so happy you all made it through that. I mean 340 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: really just like it either works. It's like you make 341 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: it or break it. That's and who would now? Who 342 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: knew one? Is that crazy? Yes? I mean we all 343 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: learned that we loved puzzles and not working. I was curious, 344 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: So what was that like for you? Like did you 345 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: feel auntsy not working? Were you kind of like I 346 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: loved that, this is a break? Loved it? I needed to, right, Yeah, 347 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: I loved it. I was and maybe it was just 348 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting that because of it, the 349 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: whole world culture has sort of changed in terms of 350 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: how we approach work. And how many days were people 351 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: in the office, how many how many people are working remotely? 352 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: And I really do believe we need community and but 353 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of other things to do in life, 354 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And particularly when I go to work, 355 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: we have intense hours. You know, they're long hours, and 356 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: it's totally joyful. I mean, I'm working right now in Paris, 357 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: so I mean, come on, and I'm working with people 358 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: that I love and that I get to make laugh 359 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: all the time and just all super committed to making 360 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: the best, you know, show that they can and that's 361 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: a real gift and I feel incredibly grateful. And then 362 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: I love to not work. So for me, I was 363 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: one I baked, I baked some bread. I did a 364 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: lot of chilling, a lot of walking, writing, and I 365 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: didn't even watch a lot of TV. I didn't because 366 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: I was in a different country. I couldn't even get 367 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: half the stuff that was being viewed in America. So 368 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: I was just like somehow though, the hours passed and 369 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: I watched the sunset every night. I was like, walked 370 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: down to the beach looked at the sunset. I mean 371 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: it was pretty pretty epic, pretty glorious. I mean that 372 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: sounds amazing. I love a sunset um. Do you have 373 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: any roles that you look back on where you're like, 374 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: that was the most challenging role or put me in 375 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: the most Like I guess challenging is the right where 376 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: where you look back and your thought that was the 377 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: most rewarding yet hardest thing I've ever done as a 378 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: as an actress. Wow, that's a great question. I think 379 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: that there's a few. I will say, well for any 380 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: episodes like from Gray's where you were like that was 381 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: private practice, where we're like that was taxing, But I mean, gosh, 382 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: so many of those were I mean just the humative thing. 383 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: But you know, it was such a trip. It was 384 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: such an intense experience that we all kind of went 385 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: through collectively between Grays, particularly Grays where it changed everybody's lives. 386 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: There's not one person on that show that was like, yep, 387 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: and so I've been I've been here, I've done that. 388 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: You know, everyone they've been working actors, but everyone's life 389 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: just blew up. And this was before social media, so 390 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: it's like we suddenly we had a show that the 391 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: entire culture responded to critically and just with and and 392 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: in masks like you know, that's just a phenomenal. And 393 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: it was a thing where it was every Thursday night, 394 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: only Thursday nights. It wasn't like you could stream it, 395 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: you know. So it was America first and then the world, 396 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: and then you just had you were suddenly recognizable and 397 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: suddenly your whole life changed, so that I remember saying 398 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: do I shrink? At one point, I'm like, when's this 399 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: going to stop? Like when when will this stop? Because 400 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: it's a different it's a weird thing to have anonymity 401 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of gone, you know, um, And he's like, uh, never, no, 402 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: but uh but it's you know, but then you get 403 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: you get new you you kind of grow new skills 404 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: and that's that's all good. And it's and and it 405 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: gave me a massively expansive life and opportunities and it's 406 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: been incredible that I'd say some of the hardest stuff. 407 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean more I do theater as well, and that's 408 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: the hard Those are the hardest roles in a sense 409 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: because and I think the older I get, the um 410 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: it's it's more taxing for me. Like it's just and 411 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's just because like oh I'm older. 412 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: It's more that I'm I think I'm more sensitive to it. 413 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm more porressed and open, and so I kind of 414 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: take it all on. So and when I did season 415 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: two of Thirteen Reasons Why, that was a really probably 416 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: one of the most challenging things I did. But that 417 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: was exacerbated by I fell in the beginning of the 418 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: season from my trailer steps, which was on Locations, was 419 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: like an eight footfall, and I broke my shoulder and 420 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: concussed myself. So and I didn't know I concussed myself. 421 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: So when I went back, I was just like having 422 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: a really it was really struggling. And then also hold 423 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: the space of the storyline of you know, my daughter 424 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: dying by suicide, and it was that was probably the 425 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: hardest thing that I've ever done. And they were a 426 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: great group. Brian new York is incredible that there was 427 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: a great captain. Everyone was really supportive. But it was 428 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: the hardest thing I think I've read. Well, yeah, I mean, 429 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize what a concussion can do 430 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: to you. And like so many other elements, like even 431 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure memorizing lines and having to be on and 432 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: like turn that switch on that y'all. I can't relate. 433 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: But as an actress, you know, it's like, all of 434 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, your character that's not yourself, and then having 435 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: to navigate having a concussion on top and a shoulder injury. 436 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty It was like everything I came it was 437 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: like I was like I had a really good I 438 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: had a good run and fort and all of a 439 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: sudden everything went was like five major health stuff happened, 440 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: like just incredible, but very lucky that I'm happy and 441 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: healthy and well and yeah, talking about people recognizing you, 442 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: do you like when people and you can be totally 443 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: honest here, do you like when people come up and 444 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: say hi, Like, do you welcome it or you kind 445 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: of like do you give off the vibe like I 446 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be approached or take a photo right now? 447 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: Or do you get like a a thrill from it? No? 448 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't. Here's what I'll say. It's a complicated thing. 449 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: I usually I try to just be like have my 450 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: invisible shield up because um, and it depends to the circumstances. 451 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: If I'm having like a dinner with my um partner 452 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: or with friends or family, I don't want to really 453 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: be disturbed. But then I'm also massive, really grateful. You 454 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: know when you see you know, a kid or a 455 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: grown woman coming up and sort of shaking, like not 456 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: being able to like so excited and and you know 457 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, I I've been that's so nice. 458 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: It's and it's so meaningful. And or your people that 459 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: decided to go into medical professions, they literally grew up 460 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: watching Gray's like what that's pretty cool. Um, So I 461 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: know there's so it's a mixed bag. You know, I'm grateful, 462 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: and so it's really just what kind of mood I'm 463 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: in and and if I and and it's a different 464 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: thing when you're Yeah, when you're out at an event 465 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: obviously and you're like there to connect and you're they're 466 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: autographs and take pictures and stuff. But yeah, it's a 467 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: little different in private life. But I I am fine. 468 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm like live my life and I just feel like 469 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: we're all connected. There's nothing to you know, get upset about. 470 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: You're just like just a matter of being kind, generous 471 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: and having great boundaries, you know what I mean. It's 472 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: so true. I think that's a very human answer because 473 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's realistic for someone to be on 474 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: and um, excited to chat every time someone comes up. 475 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, I just don't think that's a realistic expectation 476 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: of anybody. Um And I do think a lot of 477 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: people get so excited to see especially because the fan 478 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: base you all have is so intense and everyone just 479 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: like adors y'all. But I know people come up and 480 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: they get so excited that they forget the boundaries of like, oh, yeah, 481 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: this is a human who's having dinner and trying to 482 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: like live life. Yeah, And I'm like, I it's just 483 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: I've you know, I'm so grateful honestly, and like when 484 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm out and if I get tired, and I'm like, 485 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to go home because I'm gonna be cranky 486 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: if somebody comes up to me ranking and rude, So 487 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave now. You know, the self awareness is key, 488 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: knowing devisions, boundaries. It's like, okay, okay, I get you. 489 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: You need to go Yeah, what is your what is 490 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: your Like? What do you do? I know you watch 491 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: the sunset and you love animals and I know you 492 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: love the ocean, Like what do you what are your 493 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: things that you like to do outside of working? When 494 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: you have like if you're in Paris and you have 495 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: a day off, what are you gonna do? Okay, I'll 496 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: go bike riding. I love riding a bike. I love 497 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: the new electric bikes, the new those new fangled electric 498 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: but I love them. I but I do love bike riding, 499 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: even before when I was in New York and they 500 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: had city bikes before they were electric. I just it 501 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: makes me feel like a kid. Um and um, I 502 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: feel like it's a great way to kind of go 503 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: through a city, particularly a city where there's so much 504 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: car traffic, or even if they try to minimize, it's 505 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: just crowded and so you can kind of cruise around, 506 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, wear a helmet, um, protect the noggin that 507 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: I love bike riding. I I do enjoy shopping occasionally. 508 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: There might be sales going on right now in Paris, Parens, France. 509 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if I mention that enough. Um, it's 510 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: where I am whatever, and just filming filming, you know, 511 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: one does. But and I do just love a good 512 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: lazy nap. I really enjoy cooking. I love cooking, um, 513 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: and I love eating. So yeah, Paris is good for that. 514 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good just bread and butter here. 515 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: I do just like love laying around, like the lazy tart. 516 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: You know, I love I love laying around and I 517 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: love eating, Like those are two of my favorite things. 518 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that their necessities. Yeah, totally. Rest is important. 519 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: It's very important. That there's so much you know, emphasis, 520 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, people are talking about rest now and and 521 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: but I do think that joy is pivotal. And if 522 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: you get a lot of joy out of laying around, 523 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: then do it. Like I think that it's just so 524 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: much pressure to do and evolve and manifest and be 525 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: and what are you doing? What are you creating? And 526 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: I think it's also really important just to go I'm 527 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna lay around. I had a conversation earlier this week 528 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: about manifesting, and I was we were talking about how 529 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: crucial it is to be grateful and content in the 530 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: time that you're in while you're manifesting what you want 531 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: to happen, Like being able to soak in and have 532 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: contentment and joy and gratitude in the moment that you're 533 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: in now, so that you're not just impatiently waiting for 534 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: something to happen. Yes, yes, exactly, President, Just in the 535 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: here and now. What are you happy about? What do 536 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: you love? Yes, that's OK. I know you have to 537 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: go because you're filming in Paris, but I did want 538 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: to ask one question, and who was This is for 539 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: the Grace fan like me? Who was someone like that 540 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: you still keep in touch with that you if you 541 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: were in town and you would maybe is there anyone 542 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: that you would like call up and go have dinner 543 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: with or want to hang out with when you were 544 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: in l A or did you kind of you know, 545 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: it's like a work thing, only now we spent so 546 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: much time when we were working together together. We socialize 547 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: a lot afterwards. UM, So it was more there's still 548 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: like UM, I would still look up, like get together 549 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: with Justin Chambers, UM and his wife Keisha, who was 550 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: their dear friends and UM, but mostly the rest of 551 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: the Grays cast or kil we'd see each other when 552 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: she was in town or in tr tr and I 553 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: A UM still keep in touch, but every the rest 554 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: of them I would just see on set, you know, 555 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: less on show or something like that. But really, UM, 556 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: the Private Practice crew we got super super tight. UM. 557 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: So Amy Brennaman is a dear friend of mine. I 558 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: see her as much as I can UM, and we haven't. 559 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: We still have a group text chain going um that 560 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: we yeah, between and Katarina, So, Katarina, Amy, Tay, Paul, 561 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: Tim sometimes Tim um Andra. Yeah, we're all on a 562 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: Katie Yeah, Strickland and even um Chris Little. We used 563 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: to call me young Chris Loll because he was younger. Yeah, 564 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: he actually is married, has at least one child now, 565 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: so I don't know, but yeah, so we still have 566 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: a group text with Sergio Lopez Rivera are my friend 567 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: and Oscar Award winning makeup artists. So yeah, I love that. 568 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: That makes me so happy. Yeah, just the whole gang 569 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: still together. Yeah. When you spend that much time together, 570 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: it's so meaningful. And that's why I was so emotional 571 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: to go back and see Ellen and and Jim and 572 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: Chandra and you're just like, oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. 573 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Right before the pandemic started, Tony and I somehow got 574 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: to we got to go to set because one of 575 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: our listeners worked for The Bunny and got us somehow 576 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: on set, and we wore scrubs like nerds because we're 577 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: just that's who we are, and everyone thought we were 578 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: extras and so we were like, but can we be 579 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: like are you going to find out and kick us out. 580 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: But it was so I can't even imagine, because being 581 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: on set and like seeing like the elevator and all 582 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: these iconic things, it was so like I can't even beatine. 583 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 1: It was so fun. I don't even know if they 584 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: knew that we were, Like, no one questioned us. I 585 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: think because we were in scrubs and we just acted 586 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: like we were supposed to be there. But I'm sure 587 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: they were like, who are these two girls running around 588 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: filming stuff? But we got through it just today. Yeah, 589 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: we were there for just a couple of hours and 590 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: it just we had the best time. And we saw 591 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: Debbie Allen and I mean we didn't We just kind 592 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: of waved. We waved till like everyone passing by on 593 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: the golf carts going to set. But that was about 594 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: the extent we don't. I mean, we weren't trying to 595 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: get anything going on. We just were exploring. Um. But 596 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: I am so grateful for your time and thank you 597 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: for chatting with me, and I'm so happy that you 598 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: are happy and thriving and filming in Paris. And if 599 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: if people want to follow you on social media, where 600 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: can they find you on TikTok and Instagram people. Yeah, 601 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: it's at Kate Walsh. I think I think it's that 602 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: for TikTok too. I shouldn't know, but I don't know, 603 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: but I know it's just for Twitter and Instagram. Perfect, 604 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: that's all maybe and then it can start you other ones. 605 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, um and just too not to hit 606 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: you over the heave of it, but it just to reiterate, 607 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: it's dry eye Awareness months in July and if people, 608 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: if you feel like you're having any kind of symptoms, 609 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: go to sustain dot com. You can find out more 610 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: and see if see if Sustained Complete is right for you. 611 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: Rereating eye drops is right. Yeah, because it's awesome and 612 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: I've got all my friends using it so well. I'm 613 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: so excited you are not having blurry vision anymore. And yeah, 614 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: so and thank you again, and it was so nice 615 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: meeting you. It's so nice to meet you, darling. Thank 616 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: you and yeah, and you know, I hope I hope St. 617 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: Barts is anyway. I know, hopefully she's she's back like 618 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: today so or tomorrow's I'll get the full scoop. But 619 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, we had our time together and I'm grateful 620 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: for it. So thank you, thank you. I have a 621 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: great rest of your day you too, thank you, Bye bye.