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January twenty sixth two day event 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: we have Starting out January twenty fifth, live podcast. We 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 3: have PTG boys. They're killing the car industry right now. 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: Brandon Medford EYL alumni and his two partners will be there. 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Mister and missus two weeks out killing the fitness game 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. Yeah, the first couple of Atlanta. They will 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: be guested none other than one of the top realtors 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, Keanna Watson, top five percent realtor in Atlanta, 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: will be there to talk about Atlanta real estate. And 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: also the legend himself, Curate Burns Curative Culture Kenny Burns 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: EYO alumni will be our guest. We will have other 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: alumni in the building. We will have following the live 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: podcast is an open bar, private dinner, private networking event. 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: It's going to be crazy. 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: That's just day one. 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: Day two we have a workshop planned for you guys. 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: We have Alex good Energy, the King of Trucking EYOL alumni. 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: We have Andy from Y two K Credit Solutions about 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: credit around EYOL alumni, MG, the mortgage Guy EYOL alumni 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: will be in the building to talk about real estate 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: for financing your real estate deal. And then also the 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: King of Wholesaling, Max Maxwell and EYO alumni himself be 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: in there to teach real estate wholesaling. So today event 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: All the information is on our website. 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: And over now. 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: Don't wait till it's too late. Get your tickets Atlanta. 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: We will see you soon. Can't wait to touch the TEMs. 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Right, don't wait, don't hesitate going on lead your dot 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: com right now, hit events stap. 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: We'll see you there. 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back, ey L Maryland Edition. DC Edition. Actually, yeah, 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: shout outs to DC, shout outs the District of Columbia 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 3: for sure. So before we start, we just got to 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: think you guys, we had a crazy event this morning 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: and you also had a crazy event as well, so 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: don't talk about that for sure. But yeah, yeah, we 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: had a crazy, crazy event. Day two will be tomorrow, 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: will by the time you hit it'll be over. But 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: the DC Weekend d MV Weekend with a tremendous success 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. We're coming next. That's our next stop. January 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: twenty fifth and January twenty sixth, we headed to the 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: A going our way. We're going to do it big 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: out there for the whole weekend. 62 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: So a big shout out to Capital Events Group Man 63 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: Sharani Tiarhani Ida Man. He did an amazing job putting 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: that together. So definitely shout out to him. Man, if 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: you're in the DC area and you need an event plan, 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: hit my man out man. 67 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: The most the most important person. Yeah, sure, that's that's 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: a fact. That's the fact. So all right, I'm excited 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: about this episode for a few different reasons. A lot 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: of people they always tag us like who they want 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: to see that we try to accommodate as much as 72 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: we possibly can. So Keezier Williams if you don't know, 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: she's the CEO of Black Upstart And yeah, she has 74 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: that signature. 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 5: Man, listen, you got drag it out man. 76 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: It's like seven a's and then the end it's like three. 77 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: Inns and then like another. 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: Now she's really dope. She's a big proponent of financial literacy. 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: She's a big proponent of entrepreneurships, definitely in our community 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: and teaching, teaching entrepreneurship. She has a whole program. We're 81 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: gonna talk about that. So one of the things I 82 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: like about her, like if you follow her Instagram page, 83 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: is that she always like posts like these Twitter posts 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: that she puts up and it's like seven different ones, 85 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: so you always got to go to the sextual. But 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: it's like real life you got slots to left left. 87 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: But it's real life, common sense stuff that people can use. 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: And a lot of times people they've been asking us like, 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: you know, we love all of this high finance and 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: stuff like this, but how do I pick my full 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: one k? Or like how do I budget? Prop? How 92 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: do I start a business? So these are all things 93 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: that she posts, like on a daily basis on Instagram 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: and I'm sure all other social media outlets. Is why 95 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: I follow on Instagram and also with her company, the 96 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: Black up Start. They help people start businesses, like they 97 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: give them the fundamentals of how to start a business so. 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: Employed people, Like that's one of the things like we 99 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: have a lot of entrepreneurs, but how many can employ people? 100 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: I think that's that's commendable that point. 101 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: But I love it though. 102 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: So so all right, so first and foremost, thank you 103 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: for joining us. Appreciate it, thank. 104 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 5: You for having me. I have said congratulations to you, 105 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: vote on your events, and I feel like I saw 106 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: the Instagram stories and it was like people upon people 107 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: all this black excellency. 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had too. You you had an event, 109 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: Black Upstart had an event, and then your lesion had 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: an event. We didn't know we was having events, and 111 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: so the events was already set, but we had events 112 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: at the same time pretty much. Yah. But but it 113 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: was dope. 114 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: You know. 115 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 3: That's just that's just that's just that just means that 116 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: the energy is out there and you know, it's the 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: time for financial literacy and entrepreneurship. 118 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: The communities already, man, so that's even more so. 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: Can you tell us your journey how you became an entrepreneur, because, 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: like I said off camera, but you, I like for 121 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: a few different reasons, but one of the reasons is 122 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: that you you have it what we call like a 123 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: traditional job. We'll talk about that, but you have a 124 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: company as well. A lot of time people feel like 125 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: it's one or the other, right, and it's not true. 126 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: Like even Troy Chroice is an educator and he's an 127 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: entrepreneur as well. Entrepreneur So, but the hardest part, I 128 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: think for most people is mindset. Like we will talk 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: about strategy and all that all day long, but the 130 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: mindset is the most important thing. And it's very difficult 131 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: for somebody to leave or to jump off the porch 132 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: and to land into somewhere where it's kind of unknown. 133 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: You don't really know. It's like type walking with no 134 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: safety net. So how did you start your entrepreneur journey? 135 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 5: Okay, that's a great, great question. So I like to 136 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 5: tell folks that the nine to five is a fixed 137 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: and come. So, you work eight hours, you get paid. 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 5: Eight hours, you work ten hours, you get paid, eight hours, 139 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 5: you work twelve hours, you get paid. How many hours 140 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 5: you get paid? Hey hour. It's a fixed income. And 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: it's one of those things that I wasn't taught growing up. 142 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: So like I was taught that the definition of success 143 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 5: was you go to high school and you get a diploma. 144 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 5: You go to college, you get a degree, and then 145 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 5: you go and get a good government job with benefits, 146 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 5: and then you retire. And that's the definition of success. 147 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 148 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 5: So when I graduated from college, I did exactly what 149 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: my mother told me to do, and I spent six 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 5: years working for the federal government and I worked in 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: counter intelligence, counter weapons, and master instruction counter terrorism. I 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: had a clearance, a top secret sci full scope polygraph. 153 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 5: Only thirteen thousand people in the nation have that clearance. 154 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 5: But I would go to work every day at nine am. 155 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: At five pm, I would run out as fast as 156 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: I could, and during the time when I would be 157 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: off of work, I would participate in endeavors that I started. 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: And at that point I didn't consider myself an entrepreneur. 159 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: So one of the endeavors that I participated in was 160 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: Young and Power for Obama, which I was telling you about. 161 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 5: And this was an initiative that galvanized young black professionals 162 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: across the country to raise money for then Senator Obama. 163 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 5: This was in two thousand and eight, Yeah, when he 164 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 5: was Senator Obama, and it was young Black professionals from 165 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 5: six different cities. We would host fundraisers. The fundraisers would 166 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 5: cost anywhere between twenty to fifty dollars and we would 167 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: donate one hundred percent of the money to the campaign. 168 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: Before he was elected, we raised a quarter of a 169 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 5: million dollars. And when he was elected and became President, 170 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 5: Barack Obama mathro President. We hosted a collection of innaugural events. 171 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 5: Reverend Al Sharpton came, We had Jesse Jackson, he was there. Oprah. 172 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: She drove by the car, she waved the wave, counted 173 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 5: I want to open one day, shake her hand. We 174 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: all going to shake her hand. 175 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, But it was. 176 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: A great event. We raised another quarter of a million dollars, 177 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: so I was about half million dollars by time everything 178 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: was said and done. In the entire time, I was 179 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 5: working nine am to five pm, and I was working 180 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: young in Power for Obama from six pm to about 181 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: one am in the morning. But when everything ended, folks 182 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 5: started saying, you know what I mean, Raising money for 183 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: President Obama was great, but I was only interested in 184 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: politics just because of him, And so folks began to 185 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: really ask the question like what was next? And what 186 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 5: came from that? Is a nonprofit that I started, Capital Cause, 187 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: where I trained young black philanthropists to raise money for 188 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: startup nonprofit organizations, and we had five thousand members. We 189 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: raised about sixty thousand dollars and gave away five thousand 190 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 5: dollars grands to these businesses. And still throughout all of that, 191 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 5: I did not consider myself an entrepreneur. 192 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: What inspires you to take that route? 193 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 5: Right? 194 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: You raised money for politics? What said? You know what 195 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: entrepreneurs are? Yes? 196 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 5: Yes, So it was a six your work for the 197 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 5: federal government. And as I was telling Rasha, my boss 198 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 5: is switched up and I was working for white men 199 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 5: at that time. I switched up to a white woman, 200 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 5: and we sat down and she said to me that, 201 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 5: you know, I don't think that you're qualified to do 202 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 5: this work. And I was like, well, why don't you 203 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: think I'm qualified? And she was like, because you don't 204 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 5: have a PhD, you don't have a master's degree, you 205 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 5: have a bachelor's degree, and here you are writing national 206 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 5: security reports that the Vice President of the United States 207 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 5: are seeing. So I'm about to switch up your job responsibilities. 208 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 5: And she changed our responsibilities from writing these reports to 209 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 5: organize and travel for the office. So I would go 210 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 5: to work at nine am. If I get out of 211 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 5: a five VM and still get paid six figures, then 212 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 5: this will be okay. But then three months later she 213 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 5: switched up my job responsibilities again. She was like, I 214 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 5: just think organized and travel is too complicated for you, 215 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: just like national security reports is to complicated for you. 216 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: So now you're going to be printing badges for people 217 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: in the office when Nazi people come and visit. And 218 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 5: so I was like, okay, well, am I still going 219 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 5: to be getting paid like six figures. I'll work from 220 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 5: nine am, I'll leave at five pm. And so did 221 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 5: that for three months, and then three months later she 222 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 5: came back and she was like, making badges was also 223 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 5: too complicated for me and above my pay grade. And 224 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: she asked me to take my chair and follow her 225 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 5: down a hallway and we stopped outside of a bathroom. 226 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: Oh, like, literally, take the chair. 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: Take the chair had wheels on it. We was walking, 228 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 5: she was tipping, I was tippling with my chair. I 229 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: was like, oh, Laura, where are we going? And we 230 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 5: ended up outside of a bathroom and she said, well, 231 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: I want you to sit down and for every non 232 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: clear person that comes in, it'll be your job to 233 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: buzz them in and out of the bathroom. 234 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: Oh. 235 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 5: And I remember asking myself and asking her, am I 236 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: still gonna get paid six figures? But at that point 237 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: question changed her never changed because I was there nine 238 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: am five pm. I was walking out the door. But 239 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 5: I asked myself, like, Yo, it was great being paid 240 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: six figures, but you know, work to me meant more 241 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: than that, Like the value that I was creating outside 242 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 5: out of work, raising money for Obama, helping young black 243 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 5: philanthropists give back, that was the work that was really fulfilling. 244 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: And coming to work every day and sitting outside of 245 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 5: the bathroom watching people, well, I want to watch people 246 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 5: do their business, but they were going there watching the door. 247 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: When hit it out, they did their business. But so 248 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 5: after about two weeks, I called it my mom and 249 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 5: I was like, Mom, like, I can't do this anymore. 250 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 5: I need to quit my job. And she was like, 251 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 5: do you have anything saved up? At that point, I 252 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 5: had about three months worth of savings and she was like, well, baby, 253 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: I think you should have another job lined up. And 254 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: I was like, I don't think I can do it, 255 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 5: Like I can't come in here every single day and 256 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: open this door for people. Yeah, exactly. And she was like, well, 257 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 5: if you want to quit, baby, like I got you. 258 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 5: And I remember quitting my job, like I quit my 259 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 5: job and I was so excited. Have you'all ever quit 260 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 5: it off before you could job? 261 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: No, you could, Joab, I did quit. 262 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 5: How did you feel? 263 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: It was great? Yeah? 264 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: I mean I felt excellent, Like I went running out there. 265 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, I am so free, 266 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: like no more than nine of five right, Yeah? But 267 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: then Friday hit It's like her friends time that I 268 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: wasn't getting paid. I was telling me shod I called 269 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: up unemployed and I was like, I guess I better 270 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 5: get on this on deployment to get this check. I 271 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: remember talking to the lady and I was like, yeah, 272 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: I quit my job and I heard did y'all like 273 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: pay fifty percent of your paycheck? So I'm just trying 274 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: to figure out, like how do I submit this paperwork? 275 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: And she was like, you said you quit? And I 276 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, I said I quit. And she was like, yeah, 277 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 5: you don't get unemployment when you quit your job. 278 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: Yes. 279 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: I was like, did I say I quit? Like what 280 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: have meant? 281 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Was? 282 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: Right? 283 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: Could I have fire? And so she was like, yeah, 284 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 5: that's the uneployment for you, and if there was, you 285 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: wouldn't getting fifty percent of your paycheck. So I was 286 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 5: unemployed for six weeks. And during those six weeks, a 287 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 5: woman who worked with me with Younger Power for Obama 288 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: called me and she was like, I have a job, 289 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 5: and the job is launching a national Entrepreneurship initiative where 290 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 5: you would teach African American undergraduate students how to start 291 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 5: a business before they graduate from school, especially since a 292 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 5: black undergraduate student's college degree is equivalent to a white 293 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: person's high school diploma. 294 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: Can you talk about that? You talk about that? 295 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely? 296 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 3: So about what a black college degree is equivalent to 297 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: a white high school diploma. 298 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 5: Yes, a black person's college degree is equivalent to a 299 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: white person's high school diploma, which means that a black 300 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 5: person can go to the same high school as a 301 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 5: white person, go to the same college as a white person, 302 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 5: and apply for the same job as a white person, 303 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: but when they get higher they're pay is separate and unequal. 304 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I read a statistics somewhere. It's 305 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: very similar. It was like middle class black family is 306 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: equivalent to a poor white family, poor white family. 307 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and black women especially, I mean black people in generally, 308 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: our parents teach us to work twice as hard, to 309 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 5: be twice as smart, to go into work and be 310 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: twice as exceptional, and somehow, some way will be the 311 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: same as a white person. At the end of the day, 312 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 5: black women especially will lose eight hundred and forty thousand 313 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: dollars over their working career, not because they're not smart, intelligent, 314 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: or well equipped to do the job, but simply because 315 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: they're black and they're women. 316 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: So black women graduate college at the at the fastest rate, 317 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: at the highest rate out of any ethnic group. 318 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 5: I think that's what analysts say yeah. 319 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: But they're not paid obviously at the same level they're 320 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: not paid. 321 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 5: And I think that that's why it's no question. And 322 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 5: while black women are the fastest growing segment of entrepreneurs, 323 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: like I like to tell people that, like, I don't 324 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 5: think that black people are starting businesses because they want 325 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 5: to be the next Black Bill Gates love Beyonce, but 326 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 5: the next Black Bill Gates or the next Steve Jobs 327 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: or the next Mark Zuckerberg. They're starting businesses because they 328 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: want to be economically free. They want to be able 329 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: to pay themselves with their companies refuse to pay them 330 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: despite being qualified for them. That represents economic freedom and 331 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 5: economic liberation. 332 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: We had a guess who actually was talking about that 333 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: exact topic, and they was saying, even with that, the 334 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: entrepreneurism getting loans to start venture capital. 335 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: So black women are starting businesses at the fastest rate, 336 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: but they get venture capital at the smallest rate out 337 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: of any ethnic group, gender group in America. So doesn't 338 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: really make sense if you think about it, because it's 339 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: like you would figure more entrepreneurs, you would get at 340 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: least some sort of venture capital. That's what venture capitals. 341 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: They lend money to entrepreneurs. But they get the least 342 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: amount of funding from venture capital. 343 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: I think what's interesting is that black people need to 344 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: have a more dynamic conversation around funding, and so I 345 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 5: think when it comes to VC, that percentage is absolutely true. 346 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: But that's not the only type of business that black 347 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: people are starting. Isn't innovation driven enterprises, which is what 348 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 5: that is the type of businesses that qualify for venture capital. 349 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 5: There are two types of businesses that you can start. 350 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: There's a SME and there's a ide. There's a small 351 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 5: medium sized enterprise where you can raise a friends and 352 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 5: family round. You can go on to razoo if you're 353 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: starting a nonprofit. If you're starting a Razoo is a 354 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 5: crowdfunding platform for five on one c three nonprofit organizations 355 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 5: where you can invite your friends to go on and donate. 356 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 5: The only way that you can qualify to get on 357 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 5: raezoo is if you have an IRS designation. If you 358 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: have a for profit or let's say you are a 359 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 5: sole proprietor, which means that you do business as yourself, 360 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: you can go on to Indiegogo. You can go onto 361 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 5: what a lot of people think it's an unpopular site, 362 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: but go funding and you can do the same thing. 363 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 5: You can ask your friends and family essentially to invest 364 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: in your business idea or to contribute towards your business idea. 365 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: But for a small medium sized enterprise, in addition to 366 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 5: doing crowdfunding, you can also do bank loans and you 367 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 5: can also fund your own business. That's fundamentally different than 368 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: an ID an innovations driven enterprise. We're essentially going into 369 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 5: debt by soliciting guess angel investment and also venture capital, 370 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 5: and those people are betting on you to serve a 371 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 5: global market, while small medium sized enterprises serve a small 372 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 5: or regional market. So those are your nail saligns, those 373 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 5: are your hair stylists, those are your local coffee shops. 374 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: So all right, that's interesting. What's it called a ib ID? 375 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: So that is an innovation driven enterprise and as me, 376 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 5: which is a small or medium sized enterprise. 377 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So do you think that that's an issue though 378 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: with Black community as a whole, where I see most 379 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: businesses and the business ideas are small. The problem with 380 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: small businesses that for the most part, they stay small 381 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: and you can't scale it. They don't really make that much. 382 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: Most majority of business owners don't make money like we 383 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 3: know that like the average employee makes more than a 384 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: business owner, like per average. One of the reasons is 385 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: that most businesses are small, very small, right, like one person, 386 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: So like the grocery store, well not the grocery stores, 387 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: but the delis, the bodegas, if he was in the youngdegas, 388 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: the is that. 389 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: Yore I have a seven girl from Virginia. 390 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: The barbershops, the local restaurants. Do you think that that's 391 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: an issue with black entrepreneurship that it's always a lot 392 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: of times not on a bigger global vision, it's more 393 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: on a community based, small vision. 394 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: I think it's important to know the data. So currently 395 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 5: there are two point five to six million black entrepreneurs, 396 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 5: but only one hundred and ten thousand of them have 397 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: the capacity to employ a least one person. Now, what 398 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 5: you're speaking about is probably the two point four million 399 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 5: people who can't write. The hundred than ten thousand black 400 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: entrepreneurs who are employers employ less than a million people, 401 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 5: but there are eighteen point five million black people in 402 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 5: the workforce. That means that a majority of black people 403 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 5: work for somebody who don't look like them, which means tomorrow, 404 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 5: if those employers were to come in and fire every 405 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 5: single black person on the back, on the on the payroll, 406 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 5: those black folks would be what unemployees. Yeah, and that 407 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 5: soil right, they would be essel and they would be 408 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 5: on employed. So black upside, I'm glad you're talking about this. 409 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 5: What we do is we teach black entrepreneurs not just 410 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: how to start a business, but how to start a 411 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 5: business that can create a job so they don't have 412 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: to go begging other people to do for them where 413 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: they are capable of doing for themselves. Now, for black entrepreneurs, 414 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 5: the average black entrepreneur grosses less than six figures in revenue, 415 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 5: which means that a lot of black entrepreneurs are starting 416 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 5: businesses and their lifestyle businesses, which means that they're just 417 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: essentially hustling. And what a hustler does is they wake 418 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: up every single day and they try to get money. 419 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 5: While an entrepreneur wakes up every day and what they're 420 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: doing is they're doing business. They're creating systems and processes 421 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 5: so that when they're business scales, other people can work 422 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 5: for their business outside of just them. So I think 423 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 5: that there's a difference between the barbershop owner who probably 424 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 5: has employees, the coffee shop owner, even if it's just them, 425 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 5: they employ themselves and the person on the side of 426 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 5: the street who's hustling and trying to sell to every 427 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 5: single person that walks by them. Right, I think it's 428 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: important for black people to realize the money that exists 429 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 5: in our communities. So when I read the statistic about 430 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 5: black entrepreneurs gross and fewer than six figures, I also 431 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: read statistics about Asian entrepreneurs and white entrepreneurs and Native 432 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 5: American entrepreneurs, and all of them grows more than six figures. 433 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 5: In fact, Asian entrepreneurs have less entrepreneurs than Black folks, 434 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 5: but they gross double the amount of revenue. Why because 435 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 5: when you look at the businesses that they start, they 436 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: start businesses in their own communities and then they come 437 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: over to the black communities and start businesses. So people 438 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 5: always ask me, like, okay, Kizia, what type of business 439 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 5: would you start if somebody gave you a million dollars? 440 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 5: And I always tell them that I would start a 441 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: Chinese food delivery service, And well, can you fly rice? 442 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: Oh? 443 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 5: No, I can't fry rice. Can you fry one sign? No, 444 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 5: I can't fry one sign. In fact, I can't cook, 445 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 5: which is probably why I'm not married. So like if 446 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: anybody on the past, I want to play like matchmaker, 447 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 5: like I'm down for it exactly so. But when we 448 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 5: go into a beauty supply store and a person on 449 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: the other end of the counter is selling you hair 450 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 5: grease and do rag and a good remy track and 451 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: they don't look like you, we don't think twice about it, 452 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 5: but people will laugh once twice a black woman is 453 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 5: selling fried rice and a one time. The reason why 454 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 5: agent entrepreneurs are able to gross over six figures and 455 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: employ them is because they're not only getting money in 456 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 5: their own community, but they are capitalizing off of the 457 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 5: one point three trillion dollars that black people are spending 458 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 5: every single day. And so what I like to tell 459 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 5: black entrepreneurs is that you have to look at what 460 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 5: we're currently spending our money on. Every single year, the 461 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: Nielsen Consumer Index Report publishes how black people spend their money. 462 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: The top five things are refrigerated drinks, dry vegetables, ethnic care, 463 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 5: care goods and supplies. Contraceptives is one, diverse is another 464 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 5: one laundry detergent. I know that y'all know about true 465 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 5: that's a black on laundry detergent company. But when you 466 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: look at the top five businesses the Black people normally start, 467 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 5: it is admin services, waste for mediation, third is other. 468 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 5: So that's like an amalgamation maybe like a compilation of 469 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 5: many different businesses. And what you don't see is alignment. 470 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: When you look at the types of businesses that other 471 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 5: entrepreneurs start, they are prevalent on the list where our 472 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 5: dollars are being spent black peoples. Again, one point three 473 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 5: trillion dollars is not a blank check for other communities 474 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 5: to sign. 475 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: So real quick, you said that you train entrepreneurs. 476 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm thinking through a curriculum one, but you also 477 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: do a hands on approach. 478 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: What does that look like? 479 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 5: Okay? So for the Black of Side curriculum, we host 480 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: a six day pop up school and it happens over 481 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 5: three weeks and six days, and during that six days 482 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 5: we teach idiation process, the minimum viable product creation, business 483 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: campus development, and in the end, we teach them how 484 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: to pitch. Yeah, so that's what we do with Black Upstart. 485 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: We start with crowdfunding and I know we had just 486 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: had a conversation about crowdfunding, but we teach them essentially 487 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 5: how to turn their contacts into capital. 488 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: Contact like capital. 489 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 5: So it starts with that before we even see them 490 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 5: on the first day of class. 491 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: And how many teachers just you or is it a team? 492 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: No? 493 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 5: So there is faculty. And one of the things that 494 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 5: I love about Black Opstar that I definitely should mention 495 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 5: is we always teach in a black environment. So, like 496 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: right now you all are in Southeast DC, and we 497 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: started off in the Microsoft Innovation Center, which is located 498 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 5: on Saint Elizabeth East Campus in Southeast and DC. They 499 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 5: say south, Like what south? South? We have black faculties. 500 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 5: So we have one faculty come in every single day 501 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 5: and they teach on a very specific topic. We have 502 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: contractors that come in and help with website development, all black, 503 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: black photographers, black videographers, and when they pitch, they pitch 504 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 5: their innovation in the community. And so now you have 505 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 5: black consumers connecting with black entrepreneurs. And for us, it's 506 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: about recycling the black dollar. 507 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: All right, dope, dope. So the next type, we're going 508 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 3: to talk about some different ways that people can get 509 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 3: up and running and get into the game as far 510 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: as entrepreneurship concerned. All right, So we're gonna talk about 511 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: some actionable items and some systems to help people out. 512 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 3: All right, So the audiation. 513 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 5: Process, the audiation process. 514 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: Audiation process can explain what that is. 515 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely. So we teach the audiation process, and it's a 516 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 5: six step process that teaches new small business entrepreneurs how 517 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 5: to launch their enterprise in less than thirty days and 518 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 5: with less than one thousand dollars in startup capital. So 519 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 5: the first step is your problem statement. So please note 520 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 5: that it's not a business idea problem statement. 521 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: Problem statement. 522 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 5: What type of problem are you trying to solve and 523 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 5: for whom? So for black upstart, it would be black 524 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 5: entrepreneurs have a problem starting businesses that create jobs. Normally, 525 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 5: entrepreneurs get hung up on the first process because they 526 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 5: want to tell you about their idea. That's their baby. 527 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: And so we say, you need to divorce yourself from 528 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 5: your idea, talk about your problem, and your problems should 529 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 5: be broad enough so that there are several different solutions 530 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 5: that can address that problem. Number two is called investigation, 531 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 5: and what that is is market research. And so with 532 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 5: market research, what you do is you look at other 533 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 5: companies that are solving that problem, and you look at 534 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: a few things you see if they're sme we talked 535 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 5: about that earlier. A small medium sized enterprise or innovation 536 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 5: driven enterprise. You look and see if they have employees, 537 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 5: because you want to know if the business has scaled, 538 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 5: and you look and see if they have if they 539 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 5: sell products and services. After that, you list five things 540 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 5: that you like about that company and five things that 541 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 5: you would change, and each of that each of those 542 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 5: items on that list should address the problem that you're 543 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 5: trying to solve. Now, when you move on to step three, 544 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 5: which is called the idea expression, you use the five 545 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 5: things that you would change to create your unfair competitive advantage. 546 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 5: So for Black Upstart, we looked at other businesses that 547 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 5: were training entrepreneurs, and we realized that businesses weren't really 548 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: saying that I want to train black entrepreneurs. They were 549 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 5: dressing it up in coded language like we want to 550 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 5: help people of color, we want to help minorities. Are 551 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 5: your disadvantaged? Come over here, let me teach you how 552 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 5: to start a business. So like, we knew that our 553 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 5: unfair competitive advantage would be that we would explicitly state 554 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 5: that we would train black entrepreneurs, and this would be 555 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: a one hundred percent black experience. So for number three, 556 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 5: again you put your unfair competitive advantage in there and 557 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 5: you say I sell this to this particular person and 558 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 5: say how it's different. It should be one sentence. Usually 559 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 5: when you talk to an entrepreneur and you ask them 560 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 5: about their business, they're gonna tell you a whole book, 561 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 5: all right, because it's their baby. But if you can't 562 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 5: say it in a sentence, if it can't be like 563 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 5: your elevator picks, you know, if it said it's a sentence, 564 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: then it's too long. Also, if you get to step 565 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: number three and your business idea has been shifted or changed, 566 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 5: or you don't have better understanding on why you're doing business, 567 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: and in that way, then that means that you have 568 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: to start over because you never got a divorce. So 569 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 5: step number four is your customer demographic. And for a 570 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: customer demographic, you're gonna list out twenty different descriptors about 571 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 5: the person who is looking for a solution to that problem. 572 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 5: And that looks like how old are they, how much 573 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 5: money do they make, what is their race, what is 574 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: their gender? Who do they follow on social media? Where 575 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 5: do they currently work? Because you cannot make the assumption 576 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 5: that they're looking for your new business idea which doesn't 577 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 5: exist yet. 578 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: These questions will format it already. 579 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then number five is your user persona. You 580 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: take all of those descriptors and you tell a story. 581 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 5: So like Lakisha is twenty six and she works at 582 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 5: booz Allen Hamilton, and she makes sixty two thousand dollars, 583 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 5: So you tell a story. And then last is your innovation. 584 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 5: And an innovation is something that is new, original, important 585 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 5: that you can sell to other people for profit. And 586 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 5: it should be an MVP, which is a minimum viable 587 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 5: product creation. What can you make with a minimum amount 588 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 5: of resources that people can actually pay you for. Okay, 589 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: you need to be able to make it with one 590 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 5: thousand dollars. You need to be able to launch it 591 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 5: in thirty days. And the reason why we set that 592 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 5: parameter is because entrepreneur's dream big. So you might be like, 593 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 5: what I want is a nail salon, but perhaps all 594 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 5: you can afford is a pop up shop where people 595 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 5: come and you do their nails on a Saturday at 596 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 5: a community center that you've rented, and that cost you 597 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 5: two hundred dollars just to pop up in three hundred 598 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 5: dollars for supplies. The reason why I say that is 599 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: because once you get small right, once you learn how 600 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 5: to use what you have, start where you are and 601 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: do what you can, then you learn how to start agile. 602 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 5: So that's the six step ideation process. 603 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: You have it. 604 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: That was detailed detail and the only. 605 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 5: Thing that I want to say with the entrepreneurs, sometimes 606 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 5: people don't define entrepreneurs, but the entrepreneur is someone who 607 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 5: starts a business that has the chance of two things. 608 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: That's profit and success. We like to say that would 609 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: black upstart that if you're selling a product or service, 610 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: then nobody wants to buy. You don't have a business. 611 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: You have a high difference. How many entrepreneurs are you 612 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: looking for? How many do you guys take? 613 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 5: Like? 614 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: Is it per year? How do y'all do it? So 615 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: I'm sorry answered okay that I was gonna say. Is 616 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: it money that's allocated for the amount of business you 617 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: can or entrepreneurs that you can take? 618 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 5: So it's competitive. We accept between ten to fifteen people 619 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 5: per class. 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Now what I mean like, what's the 701 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: execution part of it? 702 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 5: And so I think that's a really good question. Our 703 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 5: CDFIs work with the entrepreneurs over a year to scale 704 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 5: their business. And so you know, we talked about business 705 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 5: card entrepreneurs or people running around here all the time 706 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 5: talking about I got a business, I got a business. 707 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 5: All they got is a business card. So with them 708 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 5: they qualify for up to fifty thousand dollars in capital. 709 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 5: But first they do have to show proof of concept 710 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 5: and that's where that sixth step innovation comes in. We 711 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 5: talked about how the boot camp ends. The boot camp 712 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 5: ends with a graduation, and that graduation is not your 713 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: traditional pitch competition, Like it's not you stand up there, 714 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 5: you tell people your idea and then there is a winner, 715 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 5: because that's out the way business parts. It's not shark tank. 716 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 5: It's not two or three people decide that your business 717 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 5: is viable and all of a sudden you win. No, 718 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 5: you know your business is viable when you're making sales. 719 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 5: And so how our graduation day works is entrepreneurs bring 720 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 5: their innovations to the graduation and people walk around and 721 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 5: they give them real time feed forward on their innovation 722 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 5: and they respond to if they want to if they 723 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: like the innovation by actually buying it. And so they 724 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 5: already have an MVP that the CDFI helps them position 725 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: in the marketplace, and they monitor their salves over the 726 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 5: year and as their business grows, then their access to 727 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 5: funding does as well as. 728 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: Their business grows, right, is there still a role that 729 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: black Upstart plays as the business takes off. 730 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 5: So that's a good question because we talked about our 731 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 5: businesses having events right on the same day. So we're 732 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: now launching skillhouse You and skillhouse You is an opportunity 733 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 5: for entrepreneurs and also wealth creators as well to get 734 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 5: additional training after that. Right, So the starting point, it's 735 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 5: always really exciting when somebody first buys your stuff. I'm 736 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 5: sure y'all remember when somebody buyt y'all's cuebody got your 737 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 5: first little cash hat or whatever y'all use, Like, yeah, 738 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 5: you know, but staying a business, right, it's a lot 739 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 5: harder than that. And so for black ofps starting through 740 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 5: skillhouse You, what we're doing is we're teaching people like 741 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 5: how do you read a cash flow statement? Like how 742 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 5: do you engage in account? And if you can't afford 743 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 5: an account? And how do you use quick and loans? 744 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: You know? 745 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 5: What are those very specific skills that you need, like 746 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 5: what is an NDA, what is a non compete? You know? 747 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 5: And when you're looking for visibility, like how do you 748 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 5: market when you don't have a budget? And I think 749 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 5: sometimes we do focus our conversation so much on starting 750 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 5: that we don't get to the other side of the 751 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 5: conversation is how do you scale past just you. 752 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: So business plans? Do you do business plans? 753 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 5: We don't, We do business canvases. 754 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 3: Okay, what's because a lot of people have asked us, 755 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: can you cover business planning on your leaders Because like 756 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 3: each week we cover different topics and we haven't covered 757 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 3: business plans. But what you just laid out kind of 758 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 3: sounds like a business plan. So what's a business canvas? 759 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 5: So ideation process actually mirrors a lot of what you'll 760 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 5: find in a business canvas. That is a one page 761 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 5: document that ask a lot of the same questions that 762 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 5: you see on a business plan. So it's going to 763 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 5: ask you what is your value proposition and who is 764 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 5: your customer segment? And what are your cost structures. It's 765 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 5: going to ask you what are your key partnerships, what 766 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 5: are your key relationships? But it's all on one page 767 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 5: and it challenges you to think through some of the 768 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 5: critical components of your business so that you can start 769 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 5: up in a lean way. And I'm sure y'all probably 770 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 5: heard the terminology like lean startup, right, Like how do 771 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 5: you start, get proof of concept and get to the 772 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 5: point where you actually want to commit the time to 773 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 5: write a fifty or sixty page business plan. The problem 774 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 5: with most entrepreneurs is they'll write fifty or sixty pages. 775 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 5: Then they'll get started and they'll try to sell something 776 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 5: and nobody will buy it, and they'll think they have 777 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 5: to write another business plan all over again. The business 778 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 5: campus being one page and asking those critical questions is 779 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 5: just on one sheet of paper allows for people to 780 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 5: get to testing a lot quicker. So that's what we teach. 781 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so what about obstacles the entrepreneur's face? Can we 782 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: talk about some? The biggest one is funding, That's the 783 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 3: biggest one. 784 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 5: Right, I wouldn't say that's the biggest one. 785 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 3: The biggest one is I think. 786 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 5: The biggest obstacle facing black entrepreneurs is trying to succeed 787 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 5: in business as a white person. 788 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: What's that mean? 789 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 5: So Beyonce Beyonce rapping about like I might just be 790 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 5: the next black Bill Gates and the making that was 791 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 5: var y'all like when. 792 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 4: I said that. 793 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 5: But I love her. I love her. However, I think 794 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 5: the deseroneous like I do a lot of work in Atlanta, 795 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 5: And there was one particular experience that I had where 796 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 5: I ran into a room. I really did run into 797 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 5: the room because I'm a type of personality, and there 798 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 5: was another person run into the room to the facilitator, 799 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 5: and he was asking the kids like, who wants to 800 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 5: be the next Black Book Gates? Who wants to be 801 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 5: the next Mark Zuckerberg? Who wants to be the next 802 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 5: Steve Jobs? And all the kids were really excited because 803 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 5: it was like a coding a free coding camp. And 804 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 5: I was excited too. I was like, oh my gosh, 805 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 5: this is so great. Everybody's going to be a Billa Gates. 806 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 5: But then I realized that the facilitator was lying to 807 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 5: the children because no matter how hard they tried, they 808 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 5: could never grow up one to be white, two to 809 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 5: be a white male, three to be a white male 810 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 5: benefiting from privilege. And so the more I reflected on it, 811 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 5: the more I realized that we just don't have to 812 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 5: teach white male privilege or the white entrepreneurial the blueprint, 813 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 5: that there is a black entrepreneurial blueprint right So like 814 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 5: in Silicon Valley, I think no one ever talks about 815 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 5: the guy who invented the predecessor to the Nintendo, which 816 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 5: is a model f gaming system. Right, he dined as 817 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 5: equals with Steve Jobs. No one talks about how Mary 818 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 5: McCoy but Thune raised money to start her business, which 819 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 5: was selling meat paths to the mineworkers down the street. 820 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 5: She started with a one room school house before she 821 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 5: got to Bethune Cookman University. More contemporary examples like Asa Ray. 822 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 5: People want to talk about how she's on HBO now 823 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: with Insecure but Awkward Black Girl was funded by a 824 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 5: part of her salary and fundraising on YouTube where she 825 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 5: introduced her series for free. So I think for black entrepreneurs, 826 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 5: we have to learn how our predecessors did it without 827 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 5: the benefit of white venture capital dollars or without the 828 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 5: benefit of banks allocating us money. One other example, because 829 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 5: I'm from Richmond, Maggie L. Walker started and well she 830 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 5: was the first woman at that not black woman, but 831 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 5: the first woman to charter a bank. She funded that 832 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 5: bank with charitable contributions. Do you know how many black 833 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 5: people go to a charity every single Sunday, which is 834 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 5: the church? Those are five and one C threes. A 835 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 5: five and one C three funded a for profit bank. 836 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 5: So I'm saying, if we could study history, I think 837 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 5: then we would be able to figure out better ways 838 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 5: to be successful. 839 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: We gotta study it and highlight it because a lot 840 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 2: of times, especially when school, right when US history is taught, 841 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: yes this is definitely omitted. So highlighting it, understanding it, 842 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 2: and study. And now that we have access to the 843 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 2: internet and we have access to social media where these 844 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: stories can be high you know, the future generations there 845 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: will be different stories now. 846 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 5: I feel like, yes, yes, or I think they will 847 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 5: be remembering of the stories that have been on. 848 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 4: Top create one right now, Yeah, I do. 849 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 3: So what would you say some other some other obstacles 850 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 3: are outside of that. 851 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 5: Outside of that, I mean you said funding, and I 852 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 5: agree with that. 853 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: I just. 854 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 5: Fund so funding was coming. We talked earlier about the 855 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 5: difference between a hustler and an entrepreneur. I think that 856 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 5: that's important. I think the other thing is is that 857 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 5: I think that people get caught up on this whole 858 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 5: thing about were you born an entrepreneur or can you 859 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 5: become an entrepreneur? You know, most people are like I 860 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 5: was born this way, I woke up like this, right, 861 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 5: But no, I think entrepreneur can absolutely be taught. You 862 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 5: talked about us living in an information economy, Like, we 863 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 5: are fortunate to live in a time period where information 864 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 5: is basically at your fingertips. So, like, what I like 865 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 5: to tell people who want to start a business and 866 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 5: people who want to create wealth is don't swim in 867 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 5: the ocean of knowledge and drown and ignorance. So that's important. 868 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 5: The last thing I think that I would say is 869 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 5: I don't think that you have to be the smartest 870 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 5: person in the room to be a great entrepreneur. So 871 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 5: people normally think you have to have a PhD. You know, 872 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 5: we talked about that when we first got started, or 873 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 5: you know, they think that you have to be a 874 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 5: straight a student. Like I graduated from high school with 875 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 5: like a two point three GPA. I wasn't the brightest student, 876 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 5: but I was motivated and I was committed, and I 877 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 5: thought that, you know, with me, if I could try 878 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 5: hard enough, you know, if I if I could really 879 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 5: commit myself to a passion, then I could you know, 880 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 5: I could overcome the obstacle just one quick So I'm 881 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 5: the story though, gosh, I don't thinking about his name. Okay, 882 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna tell that story. 883 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 4: What's the guy. 884 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 5: Hold on, who's the guy who had the pink? Y'all? 885 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 5: Ain't never had a perm in your head? 886 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 4: You know? 887 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 5: Box, what's the name? 888 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 4: I don't think. 889 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: We just actually covered the industry and we just did 890 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: that whole episode the way the barb he had any. 891 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 3: You got the band in it? 892 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 5: Oh? Oh yeah like this stuff? Want to Okay? 893 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So in the last semeon, we're going 894 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 3: to talk about some financial literacy stuff and things that 895 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 3: every day people can use in their day to day 896 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: life to make better financial decisions and just become more 897 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 3: knowledge all the way around. All right, So now we 898 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 3: want to talk about un c F, but first I'll 899 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: talk about some financial literacy topics because I know it's 900 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: something that you're you're passionate about, especially like on social 901 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 3: media Instagram and stuff like that. So all right, you 902 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 3: said that when you talk about making smart decisions a lot, 903 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 3: like mindset budgeting. I see you you speak about that 904 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 3: a lot. Can you talk about that the importance of. 905 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 5: It, that's important. I'm passionate about entrepreneurship and we were 906 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 5: just talking about that, Like, I really think that black 907 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 5: people should consider entrepreneurship and entrepreneurship entrepreneurship means that you 908 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 5: can be entrepreneurial at your job. But I don't think 909 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 5: that every black person should be an entrepreneur? Do I 910 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 5: think that every black person should be an owner of assets? 911 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: And so? 912 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 5: On Instagram? You're right with professor Keys. I talk a 913 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 5: lot about how people can be owner of assets because 914 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 5: I do think that if you can multiply your streams 915 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 5: of income, you can achieve the same type of economic 916 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 5: freedom that I believe the entrepreneurship provides. 917 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 3: So like, what does that mean, like multiplied like stream 918 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 3: of income? No, like you said, like everybody can be 919 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 3: an owner, like an owner. 920 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 5: Of a house, owner of assets, owner of assets and assets. 921 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 5: I think you can talk about multiple assets like you can, yes, 922 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 5: own your home, you can own stocks, you can own bonds, 923 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 5: you can invest in your four on one K, so 924 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 5: like that type. 925 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 3: Of own Okay, So at least because you said that 926 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 3: one of the things you're really passionate about is four 927 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 3: one k? Yes, So why are you passionate about four 928 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 3: one k? 929 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 5: So when I was going to get that good government job. 930 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 4: Right now? 931 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 5: Always, Actually, my very first job was as a receptionist, okay, So, 932 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 5: and that was where I got a government job, and 933 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 5: I remember when I first got my first paycheck, my 934 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 5: mom was like, well, did you invest in your four 935 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 5: one K? And I was like, well, what's that? And 936 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 5: she was like retirement. I was like, mom, like one, 937 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 5: like why no, I'm trying to like I'm trying to 938 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 5: go to happy hour and she was like, you bet 939 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 5: a happy hour dot four one K? Yes, yes, And 940 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 5: I'm very grateful for that because people will ask me 941 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 5: sometimes like what did I learn about financial literacy? And 942 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 5: I really learned it from my mother before I started 943 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 5: teaching it to myself. And she was like, the earlier 944 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 5: you start investing in your four on one K, the better. 945 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 5: And she was like, and it's going to be difficult 946 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 5: if you're like actually taking your money and investing it. 947 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 5: Talk to your employer and ask them about their retirement 948 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 5: plan and usually they deduct it from your check before 949 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 5: you even see it posted in your direct deposit. And 950 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 5: she challenged me to also ask them about matching. So 951 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 5: I didn't even know what that meant, but she's like, 952 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 5: go ask them about matching. And at that time, my 953 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 5: employer was matching six percent, so six percent of my salary, 954 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 5: that's what that means. So I think at that plas 955 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 5: making twenty nine thousand dollars, so whatever six percent of 956 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 5: that was. Every dollar I contributed up to that amount, 957 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 5: they would match it. So my mom was like, that's 958 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 5: free money. Do you like free money? And I was like, well, 959 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 5: I mean, is that a rhetorical question? 960 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like free money. 961 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 5: And it turns into six thousand dollars and so it 962 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 5: just automated. When I left that job, I rolled it 963 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 5: into an individual retirement account and IRA and every single 964 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 5: job that was one of the first questions that I asked, 965 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 5: do you have a retirement apout? How can I contribute? 966 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 5: And do you match? And at my age now in 967 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 5: my thirties, I told him early I was fifty two thirties. 968 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 5: I happened to look at my four one K earlier 969 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 5: this year because my friend we were having a conversation. 970 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 5: He was like, yeah, I got like four hundred thousand 971 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 5: dollars in my four one cous like he got what. 972 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 5: I was like, let me see what I got up 973 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 5: in my IRA, my four one K. At that point 974 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 5: I was working at UNCFS, so I had a four 975 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 5: h three B account. The difference four one K is 976 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 5: only for for profits four three B is for nonprofit organizations. 977 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 5: They both do the same thing. You invest in four 978 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 5: one ks and I had almost two hundred thousand dollars 979 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 5: and I had not looked at it, and so I 980 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 5: was like, you know what, what if I started actively 981 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 5: managing it? Like this was one of the best pieces 982 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 5: of advice that my mom gave me. And there's one 983 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 5: statistic I want to share that's all Motley fool that 984 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 5: if you start investing one hundred and twenty four dollars 985 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 5: a week at the age of twenty five into your 986 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 5: retirement account, you can essentially retire with a million dollars 987 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,919 Speaker 5: assuming a six percent return on your investment portfolio. And 988 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 5: that means that at twenty four you can be or 989 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,919 Speaker 5: twenty five you can be contributed one hundred and twenty 990 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,439 Speaker 5: seven dollars a week. You can do that at thirty five, 991 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 5: forty six, fifty four and that number never has to 992 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 5: change in order to reach the one million dollar mark. 993 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 5: So with all these people on Instagram talking about like 994 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 5: twenty twenty is about like a bunch of millionaires, but 995 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 5: if you ask them what they're plan is, they don't 996 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 5: have it. It's going to be like a really good 997 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 5: opportunity for them to start twenty twenty vision. 998 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you manage your own portfolio with the phone k, 999 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 3: like you pick your own funds. 1000 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 5: I don't, but I'm starting to really learn. I didn't 1001 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 5: even know that that was an option. 1002 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 4: But I know a guy that could help. 1003 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,959 Speaker 5: You know a guy, Please, we'll talk. 1004 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 4: The door bus. 1005 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 5: But one thing that I did learn is that you 1006 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 5: can select a target base accountget Yeah, that's that's based 1007 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 5: on your age and so like they basically invest the 1008 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,919 Speaker 5: risk level according to the younger you are the risks 1009 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,240 Speaker 5: your investments that you can make, and then the older 1010 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 5: you are the less risk because you're getting closer to retire. 1011 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, the target target day fund is always good, I think, 1012 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 3: a good option because it's it's like an auto pilot. Yeah, 1013 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 3: but you know the thing with retirement accounts is that 1014 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 3: you want to be aggressive when you're young and conservative 1015 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 3: as you get older. 1016 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1017 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 3: So a lot of times it's hard for people to 1018 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 3: kind of change it up themselves manage their own portfolio 1019 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: because you got so much stuff going on. But the 1020 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: target date is like designed to become more conservative as 1021 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 3: you're closer to that target date of your retirement. 1022 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 5: I got a question for you. Do you know that 1023 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 5: God should be talking to. 1024 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: Her shout out to you and the friend who had 1025 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 2: the four hundred thousand and four one K even having 1026 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 2: that type of conversation. 1027 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 1028 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: There's not many people that I know outside of the 1029 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 2: group of Alisius team, but that have those type of conversations. Yeah, 1030 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 2: And a lot of times people say you will go 1031 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: as far as your conversations taking. 1032 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know what I mean, So that you need 1033 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 5: tweet that that was good, you can put that. Okay, 1034 00:49:54,120 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 5: I'll put that all that. 1035 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 3: And for one K is that's something that is not 1036 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 3: the most sexy investment, right, but it is practical. 1037 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 5: It's very practical. 1038 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 3: And I always tell people like you got to put 1039 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 3: different assets away for different things. So the full one 1040 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 3: K is for your retirement. It shouldn't be your only 1041 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,919 Speaker 3: investment that's you have in life, but for a long 1042 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 3: term retirement savings is great. Especially like you said, if 1043 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 3: they match, that's free money. She'll always try if you 1044 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 3: can try to contribute at least up to the match. Yeah, 1045 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 3: because that's pretty much free money, right. 1046 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 5: And the other thing that I didn't know until I 1047 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 5: started doing my research as well, is that you can 1048 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 5: use some of the money in your retirement account for 1049 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 5: very specific purposes because if you withdraw early there will 1050 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 5: be the penalties. But you can use like ten thousand 1051 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 5: dollars for a down payment on your first home. You 1052 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 5: can use ten thousand dollars of it for educational expenses. 1053 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 5: You can use another ten thousand if you have any 1054 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 5: emergency like health considerations. That's thirty thousand dollars if you 1055 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 5: invest that much, if it's in your portfolio, that you 1056 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 5: can actually use. 1057 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 3: And another thing with the four one case, A lot 1058 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 3: of flexibility with the four one K is that you 1059 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: can borrow from it time, like up to fifty percent, 1060 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 3: up to fifty thousand. So but the good thing with 1061 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 3: the full I mean, it's pros and cons obviously because 1062 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 3: you're borrowing from your retirement, but if you have no 1063 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 3: other place to access money most of the time, most 1064 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 3: people like the most money that they have saved is 1065 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 3: in a four to one K, so now you can 1066 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: borrow from that. It's not a low interest rate. Then 1067 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 3: you went from a bank it was like three four percent, 1068 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 3: So you're pretty much borrowing from yourself and you're paying 1069 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 3: back yourself as opposed to taking a bank loan, let's 1070 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 3: say of ten percent, or just using your credit card 1071 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 3: at twenty one nineteen percent, you're borrowing at a much 1072 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 3: lower rate, and you're borrowing from yourself, so you're paying 1073 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 3: yourself back. So it's a lot of flexibility that people 1074 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,399 Speaker 3: don't fully. I think a lot of times people these 1075 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 3: are just basic general investments. But it's like, this is 1076 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 3: what's gonna for the average American, right, this is going 1077 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 3: to make you a millionaire. Absolutely, your house a four 1078 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 3: to one k. Like you said, most people aren't going 1079 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 3: to start a business. We hope that everybody does, but 1080 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 3: it's just not realistic, right, Most people are not gonna 1081 00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 3: have a million different exotic investments and a million dollars 1082 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 3: off bitcoin. It's just not gonna happen. But it's very 1083 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 3: practical to have a million dollars in your retirement, a home. 1084 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 3: Stuff like this. So I think, like these are conversations 1085 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 3: that outside of the really exciting sexy stuff, we got 1086 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 3: to have these conversations as well, for sure. For sure. 1087 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 3: So I saw I saw something that you you have 1088 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 3: put I think it was yesterday where you said that 1089 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 3: I guess a relationship had ended, because yeah, you put 1090 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 3: it on Instagram, so it. 1091 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 4: Is we're watching everything. We're watching everything. 1092 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,919 Speaker 3: So the reason so it's holiday time, it's holiday time. 1093 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 3: It's holiday time, right, so people have to be responsible 1094 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 3: with this special right, and you got to think about 1095 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 3: generational wealth over short term gratification. So how do you 1096 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 3: feel about that? 1097 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 5: About the guy? 1098 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 3: Well, just general, just the whole general. 1099 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 4: Can you give us a paraphrase version of what happened? 1100 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was. I was dating this guy. We went 1101 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 5: out for a couple of months, and he asked me 1102 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 5: to buy him some really expensive shoes for his birthday. 1103 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 5: In fact, eight hundred ball maid ball made. 1104 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 3: I mean. 1105 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 5: Only been like two months maybe to on a possible month, 1106 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 5: like like do I love it? 1107 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 3: Don't you feel? 1108 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 4: Like? 1109 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 3: That? 1110 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 5: Was? 1111 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 3: That was like a test that. 1112 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 5: Was like not that much. So And the conversation came 1113 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 5: after I had just told him that I had paid 1114 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 5: off all of my debt like credit card, car, student loans, 1115 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 5: so like we were celebrating and it was like, well, 1116 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 5: now that your credit card is like on a zero 1117 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 5: dollar ballance, like you can afford these shoes? 1118 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 6: No, bro? 1119 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 5: Like my interest right, you just said it was double digit? 1120 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 5: Are you about to make you put eight hundred dollars 1121 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 5: like on and so he a coup of me. And 1122 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 5: I actually think that was a good decision. I knew 1123 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 5: it was a good decision. So yeah, So for me, 1124 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 5: it really is about being fiscally responsible and not buying 1125 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 5: liabilities and masking it as an asset like that shoe 1126 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 5: is not going to in my opin, I don't know 1127 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 5: much about shoes. I don't think it's going to appreciate and. 1128 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 4: Value notty right high cause value very lower. Turn. 1129 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 3: Now it's emotions a lot of times too. It's people 1130 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 3: have to be you have to think long term, yeah, obviously, 1131 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 3: but you can't get caught up in short term gratification ratification. Yeah, 1132 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 3: and I see you talking about that. And also I 1133 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 3: see you talking about a lot like even with like relationships. 1134 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 3: I think that's important, Like when you say that like 1135 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 3: high data balls say, like I see you post a 1136 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 3: lot about relationships, and it's like that's a big component 1137 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 3: of wealth, don't they. Yeah, right, And it's like a 1138 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 3: lot of times like who you're with will dictate like 1139 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 3: or at least have a part to play in how 1140 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 3: you think, right, because it's like peer pressure, like if 1141 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 3: you're around somebody that's constantly telling you, like, we need 1142 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 3: to get this assets, we need to do this. Right, 1143 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna automatically like if you're around your friends and 1144 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 3: saying that, or if you're around somebody it's like, let's 1145 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,919 Speaker 3: just go to the mall, let's go on. Your mind's 1146 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 3: gonna be on that as well. Right, So, I what 1147 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 3: do you feel about that? You know? 1148 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I think he definitely wasn't watch my 1149 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 5: videos when he asked that question. But like one of 1150 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 5: the things that I like saying is that we're not 1151 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 5: flexing with liabilities anymore. Like this running around with Gucci 1152 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 5: like two weeks after you already was like you know, 1153 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 5: hashtag and f Gucci, you know, like you know, it's 1154 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 5: not that that's not the new flex. And what I 1155 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 5: really love about this whole movement that earned your leisures 1156 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 5: doing the Black up Start is getting into is that 1157 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 5: people are realizing that assets is the new flex. We 1158 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 5: do talk. I do talk a lot about relationships and 1159 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 5: the importance of breaking generational curses of poverty. I think 1160 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 5: sometimes we romanticize to struggle, Like we sit here, we 1161 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 5: talk about. 1162 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 3: Oh, you was started from the bottom bay, we came 1163 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 3: from from the bottom. 1164 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 5: But they don't want to get to the But we 1165 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 5: hear part right, And I think that the person that 1166 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,919 Speaker 5: you partner with definitely does have an influence on how 1167 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 5: you are going to live that life. When you get 1168 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 5: married to someone, when you're in relationship with someone, you 1169 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 5: begin sharing a lot of things with them, And it's 1170 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 5: more than just emotions. It can be finances too. When 1171 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 5: you start making those you start making those joint decisions together, 1172 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 5: like buying the house, you gonna be talking about who 1173 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 5: has bad credit, who doesn't have bad credit? You know, 1174 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 5: like when you're talking about, hey, we need to invest 1175 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 5: in a four to one case, so a percentage of 1176 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 5: my paycheck is already being you know, contributed towards this, 1177 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 5: your partner maybe like, well, how come we can't go 1178 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 5: on vacation this year? And so I think it's important 1179 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 5: for people to get on that same page yes with 1180 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 5: one another. 1181 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 3: So no, it's important, and it's a conversation that we 1182 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 3: don't have a lot and yeah, we need to have 1183 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 3: like a whole episode on relationship. 1184 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 4: No, somebody actually asks me. 1185 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 2: A good friend of mine was saying that, you know, 1186 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 2: we talked about credit, But what happens when your spouse 1187 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 2: doesn't have great credit and the pressure of that. 1188 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 4: Or they ruin your credit or they ruin yours because 1189 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 4: they don't have it. 1190 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 3: You got a co sign a car for. 1191 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that those are like those are 1192 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 2: the conversations that you should be having dating. 1193 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 5: I'm not married. I'm not in a relationship right now, 1194 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 5: but I have been very intentional about when I do, 1195 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 5: you know, meet someone that I'm interested in. We do 1196 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 5: go out, like on our first and second day, I'm 1197 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 5: asking like what are you reading? 1198 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 4: Like what are you? 1199 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that that could be a question 1200 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 5: for the third day. First the second day, I'm like, well, 1201 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 5: what are you interested in? Like, you know, it's payday, 1202 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 5: so I just bought to read Like do you got 1203 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 5: a robin Hood account? You don't know? Persons looking at 1204 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 5: me cross that like that, like that what you mean? 1205 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 4: Like exactly? 1206 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 5: So you know, That's how I know exactly where the 1207 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 5: mindset is. There's a guy actually that I connected with 1208 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 5: who teaches about socks, and we connected on the phone 1209 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 5: and like literally for four hours we were talking about 1210 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 5: exchange trade and funds, real estate investment trusts. Like he 1211 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 5: was telling me how he wanted to like invest in housing, 1212 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 5: like we were talking about, Like I didn't know. I 1213 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 5: just started repairing my own credit because I didn't know 1214 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 5: when you pay off all of your debt like that 1215 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 5: can drop your credit or like I literally close my 1216 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 5: credit card after I paid it all, and thirty days 1217 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 5: later when I got the notification that my credit had dropped, 1218 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 5: Like at that point, it was too late to reopen 1219 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 5: the card and I had that car for twelve years. 1220 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 5: He and I had that conversation about what it took 1221 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 5: to rebuild our credit. Like, I think that we need 1222 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 5: to change how we start connecting with people, whether it's 1223 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 5: friends or whether it's a person who you're in a 1224 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 5: relationship with or trying to get in a relationship. 1225 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 4: Conducting not speaking conducting conducting. 1226 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fact that don't don't play it. So 1227 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 3: don't do that. Don't play it. 1228 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 5: I feel like there's a story behind it. 1229 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 3: Like I always say, positive pair pressure. Positive pair pressure 1230 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 3: is something that we learned early on as far as 1231 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 3: like even your your friends. Yeah right, it's like we 1232 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 3: know negative peer pressure. Yeah, obviously everybody knows that, but 1233 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 3: positive pressures, like if you're around people that's like doing well, 1234 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 3: Like if you're in a school and everybody's doing well. 1235 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be the dumbest person in class, so you're 1236 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 3: gonna naturally push yourself to not be the dumbest person 1237 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 3: in class, right, And that's positive fear pressure. So it's 1238 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 3: the same thing with finance, Like if you're around people 1239 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 3: that are making smart decisions, that's doing things, that's you know, 1240 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 3: buying real estate, you're not gonna be the one slacker. 1241 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 3: You don't want to be that one slacker. You want 1242 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 3: to have good credit like your friends have. So I 1243 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 3: think that these conversations are dope and it's really changing 1244 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 3: the narrative, especially in our community, because it for a 1245 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 3: long time it's not It wasn't nobody was having this conversation. 1246 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 3: Nobody better conversations. Well that's what we're doing that. So 1247 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 3: all right, well, thank you, thank you for coming. 1248 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 5: My god, our thank you for having me at all. 1249 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 3: So how can the people contact you? How can they 1250 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 3: get information on Black Upstart, any events you have coming up, 1251 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 3: what's supposed to deal? 1252 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they can follow the Black Upstart, that's the 1253 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 5: tag Black up Start. They can also follow me at 1254 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 5: Kizi at mw k e z I a MW. We 1255 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 5: will be hosting boot camps across the nation in twenty 1256 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 5: twenty in six different markets, so North Carolina, Baltimore, Atlanta, 1257 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 5: New Orleans, Tulsa, Oklahoma. We're going back to Johannesburg, South Africa, 1258 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 5: and we'll release the whole list of cities the first 1259 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 5: week of January. And each one of those experiences are 1260 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 5: sponsored by cdf i's So we'd love to train up 1261 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 5: entrepreneurs and give you access to funding upon graduation. 1262 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 3: So all right, don't we gotta we gotta collapse on? Yeah, sure, 1263 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 3: South Africa. 1264 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 5: You can get food out. 1265 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 3: Heah, let's do that. 1266 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 4: That conversation. 1267 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 5: That's today. 1268 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 3: I love it, Troy some housekeeping it on. 1269 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 2: Shout everybody on patreon dot com. You know that's all 1270 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 2: Proud to pay program. We got some new members. Want 1271 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 2: to give them a shout out. Chris Ken, Ricardo and Sirita. 1272 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 2: I hope I pronounced that right. They kill you didn't 1273 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 2: pronounce how you know, lady? That happens a lot of it. 1274 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 2: Like Yo, man, I love my shoutout, but you left 1275 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 2: the letter out. I'm trying, Sirita. If I mispronounced it, 1276 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 2: I love you still, thank you for signing up for 1277 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Early Leisure uh for Patreon that gives you access now 1278 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: to early leisure dot com. 1279 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 4: You know, if you're a Tier four or five member, 1280 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 4: you have access. 1281 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: To our new online school Man University and Rashot has 1282 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 2: to merch on. So that's that's on this way the 1283 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 2: new merch for Earnily Leisure University. And obviously I'm wearing 1284 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 2: the assets over liabilities. 1285 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 4: It's so the season. It's cold in New York. It's 1286 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 4: cold d C. So I get you a hoodie and 1287 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 4: keeps a point man. 1288 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 2: We appreciate it allows us to do things like this, 1289 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 2: come to DC and touch base with some people who 1290 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 2: are doing some amazing things. 1291 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. And once again in the merch eyl 1292 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 3: University to the new wave that we're on right now. 1293 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 3: It's really really dope platform. Maybe can teach a class 1294 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 3: for us what we do, Yeah for sure, we do. 1295 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 3: We do three classes a week and we have of 1296 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 3: like guest lecturers that we kind of rotate from our 1297 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 3: alumn that you're an alum, that's what we call our guests. 1298 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, Yo University is really really dope platform that 1299 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 3: we're really proud of. And once again d M v 1300 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for the hospitality Atlanta. We will see you 1301 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 3: guys soon January. 1302 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 4: That's a fact you put in your calendar. 1303 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 3: Five up for sure. 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