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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this because I feel like

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Speaker 2: there's a lesson in every story, and there's something that

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Speaker 2: you can take from every story and learn from every story.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes what we think is reality isn't reality. And

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Speaker 2: it's important for people to know the truth. And it's

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Speaker 2: important for people to learn from other people's experiences because

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Speaker 2: it could potentially happen to you. So a few years ago,

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Speaker 2: we had a former president, Donald Trump, and it was

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Speaker 2: very controversial when you took a picture with him, and

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Speaker 2: you got a lot of backlash, a lot of hate,

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Speaker 2: all conds of negative energy.

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Speaker 3: But when we met you, you explained to us the story.

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Speaker 2: And when you explain to us the story, it was

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Speaker 2: so crazy because it just goes to show you how

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Speaker 2: something can be changed and the narrative can be painted

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Speaker 2: and people just run with half of what they see

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Speaker 2: and they don't even understand it.

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Speaker 3: Can you explain that infamous moment?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, if I listened to my wife,

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Speaker 4: it wouldn't have been no infamous moment.

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Speaker 5: First lesson, that's the first lesson.

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Speaker 3: Lesson number one.

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Speaker 4: That's number one. But here's what happened. Before he got

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Speaker 4: I had sworn in. He had appointed Ben Carson to

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Speaker 4: the head of HUD, and HUD is housing in urban Development.

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Speaker 5: It's the only black on the cabinet.

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Speaker 4: So I said, let me go up there and meet

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Speaker 4: Ben Carson. So when I got to Trump Towers, I

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Speaker 4: went in, sat down to meet with him, and he said,

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Speaker 4: why are you here. I said, I want to meet

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Speaker 4: Ben Carson because I have an idea. He got Ben

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Speaker 4: Carson on the phone, being Ben Carson talked right away.

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Speaker 4: I told him the idea I had. I wanted to

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Speaker 4: take some of these schools that they had destroyed and

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Speaker 4: shut down in black neighborhoods, and I wanted to take

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Speaker 4: them and turn them into what I call Vision centers,

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Speaker 4: where we would create financial literacy after school programs, you know,

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Speaker 4: and get these young cats off the streets so they

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Speaker 4: have something to do, and then give the parents some

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Speaker 4: financial literacy. He fell in love with the idea. I

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Speaker 4: leave the building. I'm on the elevator. Donald Trump say

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Speaker 4: I'll ride down with you. I said, I beat damn.

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Speaker 4: So he gets on the elevator. He riding down with him. Now,

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Speaker 4: before I got on elevator, I told the reporters I'll

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Speaker 4: be back over and tell you why I'm here. I

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Speaker 4: walk up to the reporters. He walks in front of me.

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Speaker 4: He the president, to be right, So he walks.

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Speaker 5: In front of me. Now I'm standing there. First word

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Speaker 5: out his mouth.

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Speaker 4: Was we gonna repeal and replace Obamacare.

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Speaker 5: I didn't say shit about that. I didn't mention none

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Speaker 5: of that. Then, oh, what you're talking about? Man?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm sitting here going I'll

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Speaker 4: beat damn. And all I heard was my wife going,

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Speaker 4: don't go up there yet. So when he left, I

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Speaker 4: stood up and told the reporters what the deal was.

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Speaker 4: By the time I got to my car, because this happen,

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Speaker 4: and on my sixtieth birthday was that weekend, my wife

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Speaker 4: had a nice trip for me. All I had to

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Speaker 4: do was go get on that damn boat, like she said,

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Speaker 4: That's all my ass had to do. But oh, knew

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go up here for black people before.

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Speaker 5: I got in the car. I couldn't believe it. I

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Speaker 5: couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 4: Man. I was a coon, I was a jigaboot, I

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Speaker 4: was a spook. I was an Uncle Tom. And that

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Speaker 4: shit hurt me to the core because all I do

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Speaker 4: when I wake up is walk out the door as

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Speaker 4: a black man, to represent the black culture, to be

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Speaker 4: something that some young person can look at.

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Speaker 5: And go, yeah, I do it that way.

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Speaker 4: My whole hustling grind has been for black people.

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Speaker 5: And so it kind of hurt me.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: And so his.

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Speaker 4: Fast forward turns out the Vision Centers was the only

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Speaker 4: name of it from Vision Centers to Vision Centers. You

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Speaker 4: can go online look them up. They opened up three

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Speaker 4: of them, all the ideas I had given them, they

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Speaker 4: enabled it. Then they asked me to come take a

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Speaker 4: picture with being Carson in front of the schools, and

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Speaker 4: I said na, because y'all had ate my ass up

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Speaker 4: so bad before. Y'all ain't getting no more pictures of me.

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Speaker 4: My family got attacked and all this here.

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Speaker 5: But that was a.

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Speaker 4: Hurtful moment for me because I went up there to

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Speaker 4: get housing and benefit for black people and then they

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Speaker 4: turned on me like that, you know, But I always

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Speaker 4: know how to hang in there. You know. It's kind

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Speaker 4: of like, I know it's a lot of hip hop

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Speaker 4: casts in here, but old school music still registers very

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Speaker 4: deep in my I'm an R and B guy. So

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Speaker 4: there's a song that Temptations had out, and I had

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Speaker 4: to sing it to myself. I know you won't leave me,

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Speaker 4: but I refuse to let you go. If I have

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Speaker 4: to beg and plead for your.

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Speaker 5: Sympathy, I don't mind, because you mean that much to me.

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Speaker 5: So I just hung in there with black people.

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Speaker 4: I just stayed in that with y'all's asked because I

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Speaker 4: knew eventually y'all was gonna have to get all right.

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Speaker 5: Well, some of y'all didn't. But it's cool though, But.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that because when you

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Speaker 2: reach levels of success, especially now, you're gonna get some

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Speaker 2: level of hate online. You're gonna get some level of

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Speaker 2: hate on YouTube, You're gonna get critics, and it has

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Speaker 2: it has an effect on your on your psyche.

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Speaker 3: So how would you how would you coach people through?

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Speaker 2: What advice would you give to the young people that

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Speaker 2: haven't experienced that yet. But they might be in sports,

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Speaker 2: they might be in music, they might be entrepreneur, they

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Speaker 2: might be online at some point when that comes, what

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Speaker 2: do you do to just keep going?

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because I was talking to Walker Flocker backstage

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Speaker 4: and he came up to me and said, hey, man,

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Speaker 4: you don't know what you mean to me. I've never

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Speaker 4: met the brother before and he was saying, you don't

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Speaker 4: know what you mean to me.

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Speaker 5: He said, Man, I follow you. I listened to you. Man.

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Speaker 4: He said, man, you changed from just a comedian to

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Speaker 4: a real man, and you made me start looking at

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Speaker 4: some things I want to do. And then we shook hands.

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Speaker 4: He was fitting to walk away and he turned around.

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Speaker 4: He said, you know what else I like about you? Man?

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Speaker 4: You ain't vengeful. You're not vengeful. And that kind of

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Speaker 4: stuck with me, so I said, how you mean? He said, man,

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Speaker 4: you could come back at so many people. But I

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Speaker 4: don't never see you going out to attack people because

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Speaker 4: I learned a long time ago from a minister. He said,

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Speaker 4: stay on the wall. When they throwing rocks at you,

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Speaker 4: stay on wall. If you come down off the wall

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Speaker 4: to address haters and small people see they eye level

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Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 5: Now. Now they can.

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Speaker 4: Throw the rocks and they hurt. But if you just

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Speaker 4: stay on the wall, what can they do.

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Speaker 5: And you gotta.

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Speaker 4: Understand some young people about haters. Haters are not decision makers,

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Speaker 4: power brokers, or shakers and movers. They have no determining

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Speaker 4: factor on your life, where you headed, or what God

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Speaker 4: planned for you.

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Speaker 5: Stop giving haters power.

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Speaker 3: Stop it.

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Speaker 4: Don't even talk to they ass I don't give it. Look, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm sixty five. I don't give a damn what you

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Speaker 4: say about me.

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Speaker 5: You ain't.

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Speaker 4: You're not stopping nothing. Look what God has for you,

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Speaker 4: it is yours. All God's plans for you, his purpose.

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Speaker 4: If you just open up yourself to them, he gonna

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Speaker 4: make all of them come true. But if you stop

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Speaker 4: and keep addressing haters, you will never be open to

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Speaker 4: your purpose and your mission in life.

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Speaker 5: So my directive is to stay on the wall.

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Speaker 4: When they attacked me for whatever, I stay on the

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Speaker 4: wall because they do it all the time, man, especially people.

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Speaker 5: I thought I was cool with other celebrities.

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Speaker 4: You know, they got little stuff to say, But then

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Speaker 4: I look at their career and they.

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Speaker 5: Have time to say little stuff. They have time. See.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you something, man, People is busy. They

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Speaker 5: ain't got time.

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Speaker 4: Denzel ain't got time talk about me, Magic.

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Speaker 5: Johnson ain't got time talking about Tyler Perry.

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Speaker 4: Ain't got time talk about me because they building their empire. Man,

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Speaker 4: let me tell you something, man. One time I was

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Speaker 4: sitting to respond to something on the blog. Tyler Perry

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Speaker 4: called me and said, hey, man, what you getting ready

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Speaker 4: to do. I said, I'm going on CNN with Anderson

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Speaker 4: Cooper and I'm straighten this whole thing out in them blogs.

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Speaker 5: He said, no, you're not. He said.

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Speaker 4: You know why, He said, listen to me, Steve. When

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Speaker 4: they talk about you, it's a blog. If you open

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Speaker 4: your mouth, it's a press conference. You got to know

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Speaker 4: who you are. So I say to all people out there,

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Speaker 5: Get up on the wall and stay there. That's powerful Erness.

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Speaker 1: Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep

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Speaker 1: pushing your vision forward.