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Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Golsdein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director of mok Tail, and I love films. As
Speaker 1: the Daarla Lama once said, happiness is not something ready made.
Speaker 1: It comes from your own actions. Watch oneker. If you're down,
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Speaker 1: it's the brilliant comedian, actor, writer and poet mister Rob Orton.
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. He was brilliant. I love him.
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Speaker 1: episode two hundred and eighty one of Films to be
Speaker 1: Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With.
Speaker 1: It is me Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by
Speaker 1: a writer, a poet, a wordsmith, a traveler, a hairy man,
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Speaker 1: and a wonderful stand up to the entire world. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. It's the brilliant, It's the one
Speaker 1: and only. There's no one like him, and he's here.
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? It's Roberton.
Speaker 2: We thank you, Brett.
Speaker 1: Thanks Rob.
Speaker 3: It'd be good if you could come on my tour
Speaker 3: and do that introduction every night, and then everyone there
Speaker 3: would just cross their arms and go, let's see what
Speaker 3: the dickheads like them.
Speaker 1: It's good to see Robin. Seen you in fucking ages.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm all right, you Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling like I've been doing quite a lot of
Speaker 3: jobs today, you know, like you have those days just
Speaker 3: before Christmas where you're like, okay, I've just got to
Speaker 3: get all this stuff, not Christmas shopping, but like work stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to do this. I'm going to
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do this so you kind of get
Speaker 3: rid of those things that could be on your mind
Speaker 3: when people are like handing you a cracker and you're
Speaker 3: thinking about something completely different and you're like, so just
Speaker 3: trying to clear my mind from things like that, but
Speaker 3: on the whole.
Speaker 1: Really want to be present with this cracker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, do you know what? It's those types
Speaker 3: of things when if you aren't present for them, it
Speaker 3: really does show, you know, if you're like your because
Speaker 3: going into going into Christmas, I mean, I feel like
Speaker 3: this might come out after Christmas, but before with Christmas,
Speaker 3: it's like the effort to be present and just trying
Speaker 3: to carve out some of those times when you're like
Speaker 3: you're sitting down and you might have like five minutes
Speaker 3: next to a fire or something, or you might like
Speaker 3: see someone and have a fifteen minute chat with them.
Speaker 3: That can like make it just like that and then
Speaker 3: you're like, right, okay, that's good enough for me. That's
Speaker 3: good enough Christmas, don't you know, as long as like
Speaker 3: you can. And I've just I'm just trying to learn
Speaker 3: to hang onto these like moments and just like grab
Speaker 3: them and go right, yeah, I'll put that in my
Speaker 3: pocket and then and then we're instead of you know,
Speaker 3: it's just it's kind of such a surreal time of year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but on the whole, I'm pretty good. I feel like
Speaker 3: I've got to the end of this year and I've worked.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've worked quite hard. I was thinking
Speaker 3: about some of the stuff that I've been doing and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, you were really stressed then
Speaker 3: and you got through it, and then you were like
Speaker 3: really anxious then and you got through that. And I
Speaker 3: just kind of feel like, yeah, all right, good, I'm
Speaker 3: still here and I'm still excited to crack on.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Are you on tour at the moment? Are you middle
Speaker 1: of a tour or are you starting it?
Speaker 3: No, I'm going to start the end of the tour
Speaker 3: at the at the end of January, and it's on
Speaker 3: for a couple of months and then yeah, and then
Speaker 3: going over to Australia and doing it that. I went
Speaker 3: to Australia for the first time this year. It was
Speaker 3: massive for me, Like, yeah, you know, my dad when
Speaker 3: I was growing up, my dad was always it was
Speaker 3: always one of his big things that he wanted to
Speaker 3: go to Australia, and I don't know, it was quite
Speaker 3: special for me going over there. And yeah, so I'm
Speaker 3: winding up for this tour and then doing the show
Speaker 3: over there. And I was meant to go over in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty and do it then, but obviously there was
Speaker 3: the pandemic and then went this year. And yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a strange existence, but you know, I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just talking about touring before we started recording.
Speaker 1: We're talking about balance. It's an unbalanced way to live
Speaker 1: your life, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think it's that thing of like,
Speaker 3: you know, God never gives with both hands. It's like,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not particularly religious, but I like that saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so you have a great time on stage, sometimes not
Speaker 3: all the time, and then I guess from the outside
Speaker 3: looking in, people go oh wow, I wonder what that
Speaker 3: person's doing now, and then you're just there in the
Speaker 3: dressing room, and then you've got a kind of I
Speaker 3: normally stay in a premiere in or a travel lodge,
Speaker 3: or get a late train back, and yeah, there was
Speaker 3: I remember last year when I was on tour, I
Speaker 3: was did a gig in Manchester and I was staying
Speaker 3: in the travel lodge right near Manchester Piccadilly, and that
Speaker 3: travel lodge has seen some serious action.
Speaker 2: And there was.
Speaker 3: I got back and you know, it's I think it's
Speaker 3: a twenty four hour bar there, and there was just
Speaker 3: me and this lady who was about I think she
Speaker 3: must have been about seventy five, and she was in
Speaker 3: there in the bar and like she ordered some pizza
Speaker 3: and had some pring goals, and she came over and
Speaker 3: offered me some pringles, and I was just like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm okay, thanks, and I just kind of hate I
Speaker 3: was like, why why didn't I just say yes? And
Speaker 3: then I have a chat with that lady, you know,
Speaker 3: instead of just kind of having a flat point of
Speaker 3: guinness or whatever or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think about that stuff a lot. I've had incidents
Speaker 1: like that, where you go, I should have had the
Speaker 1: fucking pringles, Like the universe gave you this opportunity, like
Speaker 1: you might be married to that seventy five year old
Speaker 1: woman and the manage to pick a dilly traveler if
Speaker 1: you'd taken their pringles, Like why didn't you? I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it, you think, what am I getting into here?
Speaker 1: But you're about to get into an adventure?
Speaker 3: Well that is one of my you know, one of
Speaker 3: my main flaws is I love speaking to people, but
Speaker 3: sometimes I just can't bring myself to do it, and
Speaker 3: there's I think there's a lot of people who maybe
Speaker 3: don't even like speaking to people as much as I do,
Speaker 3: but they do it more than me. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that I'm completely socially awkward, but it's something that
Speaker 3: really does. I just wish that I could not be
Speaker 3: so self conscious and just say everything that I want
Speaker 3: to say, And just because a lot of my work
Speaker 3: and stuff like that is about being excited about just
Speaker 3: being in this world.
Speaker 2: And I've done loads of shows about it about like.
Speaker 1: Tell for the people who may not know you, like
Speaker 1: in America who listen, tell them the names of your
Speaker 1: show is up to now, because I think that tells
Speaker 1: you a little about what you did.
Speaker 3: So I do shows on specific themes. I started doing
Speaker 3: poetry gigs in like two thousand and seven and then
Speaker 3: went up to Edinburgh Festival and I saw people doing
Speaker 3: our long shows and I thought, what could I possibly
Speaker 3: do in our long show about And then I just
Speaker 3: bought a yellow coat and I thought every time I
Speaker 3: put the coat on it, it made me a bit
Speaker 3: more happy. And I was like, oh, wow, if I
Speaker 3: write an hour long show about the color yellow, it's
Speaker 3: going to make me absolutely ecstatic.
Speaker 2: So I did My first show was all about the.
Speaker 3: Color yellow and it was called The Yellow Show, and
Speaker 3: it was just an hour long show about the color yellow.
Speaker 1: Was that the one in the Caves? Was that the one?
Speaker 1: Was that the first one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in the Caves? I think you came
Speaker 3: to the one in twenty thirty. I came to this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the next one.
Speaker 3: So the one after the Color Yellow, I did one
Speaker 3: about the sky called the Sky Show.
Speaker 2: It was excellent, Thank you very much, Thanks so much
Speaker 2: for coming to that.
Speaker 3: And it was it was in the place called the
Speaker 3: Banshee Labyrinth and it's meant to be Edinburgh's most haunted
Speaker 3: pob and is like a torture chamber at the back
Speaker 3: of it. And I was doing it in there on
Speaker 3: the free fringe. And basically the shows it's just me
Speaker 3: going off on one about something like I really like
Speaker 3: the artist Grayson Perry, and he always talks about his
Speaker 3: favorite thing about being an artist is that it allows
Speaker 3: him to go off on one and I definitely feel
Speaker 3: like that about I'm just going to go off on
Speaker 3: one about the sky for an hour and see if
Speaker 3: I can do it and I always loved art and
Speaker 3: graphics at university and school, and just trying to test
Speaker 3: myself to see if I can talk about the sky
Speaker 3: for an hour in an entertaining way. So over, you know,
Speaker 3: I've got the newspaper called the Sun, So I crossed
Speaker 3: out the you and the end and put the sky,
Speaker 3: and then just covered the pages of the Sun and
Speaker 3: cut up bits of the sky from all the other newspapers,
Speaker 3: and then it stuck down the bits of writing that
Speaker 3: I wanted to read in that newspaper. And then the
Speaker 3: year after that, I did a show all about faces
Speaker 3: called The Face Show. I like faces. I like faces
Speaker 3: so much I got one. I've got one on the
Speaker 3: front of my head. And then I did a show
Speaker 3: about water called the Water Show. What is water? Water
Speaker 3: as the smell of a pint of orange cordial before
Speaker 3: you've added the cordial and.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And then I did a show about sleeping called the
Speaker 3: Sleep Show. I Like sleeping. I was everyone feel about sleeping.
Speaker 3: Do you enjoy having a break from yourself?
Speaker 2: I know I do.
Speaker 3: And then I did show about hair, and then talking,
Speaker 3: and then time and then crowds, and then the last
Speaker 3: one I did was all about me, and it was
Speaker 3: called the Roboulton Show. They've all kind of been about me,
Speaker 3: but this was more about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't had the chance to see you on
Speaker 1: newest One. What is the It's interesting to me that
Speaker 1: you've reached the robot and show what happens in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically I've just done like a deep deep dive.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've thought about things that happened in my
Speaker 3: life and you know, first jobs, first relationships, first memories,
Speaker 3: and you know, the thing is, we've got so many things.
Speaker 3: What I learned from this show and writing it was
Speaker 3: we've got so many things kicking around our heads, like thoughts,
Speaker 3: just repetitive thoughts, and when I started to vocalize them
Speaker 3: and actually say them, it made me realize how kind
Speaker 3: of strange some of them were and kind of other
Speaker 3: not otherworldly. But I asked my mum and dad about
Speaker 3: something that happened and they said, well, no, we don't,
Speaker 3: we don't remember that. And it's been I've thought about
Speaker 3: it so much and it really made me want to
Speaker 3: just speak to everyone in my life and just say,
Speaker 3: have you got any memories of me?
Speaker 2: What are they?
Speaker 3: And then I want to speak to them and they say,
Speaker 3: what memories have you got me? Because the brain is
Speaker 3: such an interesting and bizarre thing, and we you know,
Speaker 3: a memory changes every time you remember it, supposed So
Speaker 3: it's like this new show was just me trying to
Speaker 3: look at my life in an entertaining way. And it's
Speaker 3: a mix of you know, there's some stories in it
Speaker 3: and poetry and things like that. And my favorite thing
Speaker 3: about it is like the gear changes with regard to
Speaker 3: like what I want the audience to feel.
Speaker 2: So you know, there's.
Speaker 3: Quite a lot of energy at the start, and then
Speaker 3: hopefully some funny bits and then go into a more serious,
Speaker 3: heartfelt poem and then get out of that and then
Speaker 3: go into another funny bit and kind of go on
Speaker 3: different terrains really and just hopefully get to the end
Speaker 3: and feel like I've taken them on a bit of
Speaker 3: a journey. And but Edinburgh this year, I did the
Speaker 3: Edinburgh Fringe again and I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2: But I didn't love all of it.
Speaker 3: No one comes away from that festival thinking that they
Speaker 3: absolutely loved all of it. No way. I had some
Speaker 3: really brilliant moments, and you know, it's always.
Speaker 1: Tough though, it's just.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I feel very lucky to have
Speaker 3: made the decision to dedicate my time to doing this
Speaker 3: At the moment, what do.
Speaker 1: You make of the thing of your memory that you
Speaker 1: tell your parents that they don't remember it? Like what
Speaker 1: what do you think that means? I don't know, like
Speaker 1: it didn't happen, or it's a story you were told.
Speaker 3: It's quite It's quite worrying, isn't it that? Because it
Speaker 3: makes me think my memories just things that I've thought of,
Speaker 3: Like what's the difference?
Speaker 2: You're like that what?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: And it kind of spins me out of it.
Speaker 1: Well, I I look, I won't say what it was.
Speaker 1: I had a like what I would consider like a
Speaker 1: defining trauma in my life, like a genuinely like something
Speaker 1: that haunted me, something that happened when I was younger,
Speaker 1: and I spoke to my mom about it years later,
Speaker 1: like I talked finally talked about it in therapy and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, all this stuff, And I spoke to
Speaker 1: my mom about it. She was like, oh, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I've completely forgotten about that, Like it was so minimal,
Speaker 1: Like she didn't say it didn't have happen, it did happen,
Speaker 1: but she was like that wasn't you know, but as
Speaker 1: a child that was such a like traumatic thing. But
Speaker 1: to her it was like, ah, I completely forgot about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like no big deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's fascinating. You're like, wow, that fucked me up,
Speaker 1: that thing. I feel like that because I feel.
Speaker 3: The human condition is obviously so like robust, ye fragile
Speaker 3: at the same time, and like if something just catches
Speaker 3: you with your guard down on a certain day or something,
Speaker 3: maybe something in the chemistry of your body and it
Speaker 3: gets you and it gets into a certain bit of
Speaker 3: your brain or something and it locks in, whereas it
Speaker 3: doesn't get a grip on that other person's brain and
Speaker 3: it just kind of bounces off, and it's just I mean,
Speaker 3: it's fascinating really yeah.
Speaker 1: And also I think about the things that, like you,
Speaker 1: if you ask me to like list top three traumatic things,
Speaker 1: there are other things that happened in my life that
Speaker 1: if it were a movie, you'd go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was horrendous. That wouldn't make the list. Where it
Speaker 1: was like for some reason or whatever, you know, like
Speaker 1: it was scary when it happened, but I got over
Speaker 1: it a week later. Whereas this thing that's probably much
Speaker 1: smaller objectively is the thing that owns me forever. You know,
Speaker 1: I guess that's.
Speaker 3: It because I thought can be as big or small
Speaker 3: as you want it to be.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, yeah, I thought that once, and I
Speaker 3: never thought about it going Oh I thought that, and
Speaker 3: it's just been coming back every single day of my life,
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh shit, what I think.
Speaker 2: It's difficult, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Like I did a gig the other night when I
Speaker 3: was doing a I was reading a piece out that
Speaker 3: was from my show I did about Sleeping and it
Speaker 3: was at King's Place, and it was it was a
Speaker 3: Christmas gig. So I thought, I'm going to read out
Speaker 3: this letter that I wrote a piece about a letter
Speaker 3: I got from Father Christmas.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So I woke up on Christmas Day and I didn't
Speaker 3: have any presents. I just had a letter from Father
Speaker 3: Christmas and he said like, hey, thanks so much for
Speaker 3: giving me all your Christmas lists. I thought I could
Speaker 3: do something different this year. I thought I could give
Speaker 3: you my Christmas list and then he's like, I want
Speaker 3: one gift from you this year. I want you to
Speaker 3: try to feel the comfortable within yourself when you are
Speaker 3: awake as you are when you are asleep. Why have
Speaker 3: you become so switched off in social situations? You used
Speaker 3: to drive Now it's like you're falling asleep at the
Speaker 3: wheel of your own life and all that kind of
Speaker 3: thing like anxiety is not the capital of your rob
Speaker 3: and things like that. And I was saying it, and
Speaker 3: it was from a time in my life when I
Speaker 3: did feel like things were on top of me more
Speaker 3: and I don't know, I almost feel slightly scared to
Speaker 3: say it, saying that things aren't as on top of
Speaker 3: me as they were, because I never know what I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to take fake, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I'm liked, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think maybe the older we get, the more you
Speaker 3: learn to kind of roll with it a bit and
Speaker 3: just kind of that thing of thinking, like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I've tried to start I've started running, like I've running.
Speaker 3: I don't love running it, I do it and it's
Speaker 3: making me feel better. And made a playlist and that
Speaker 3: it was a track from Rudimental which is not Giving
Speaker 3: in Right, which which I listened to when I'm when
Speaker 3: I've decided I'm going to do Edinburgh again, and I'm
Speaker 3: like not giving in it. I'm like listening to these
Speaker 3: tracks and there's a lyric in it that I thought,
Speaker 3: I'm going to buy a canvas and just write that
Speaker 3: massive in black paint and just put it on the wall,
Speaker 3: which is wasting time, just makes it worse. And I
Speaker 3: think that, like I was just saying, getting older, it's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know that if you sit down and you're on
Speaker 3: your phone for an hour and you just don't do
Speaker 3: it and you don't achieve anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how are you going to feel after? Is
Speaker 1: not worth It's just not worth it. Yeah, the fine
Speaker 1: thing is insane. And I keep thinking that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I lose hours and then you go it was anyone ever?
Speaker 1: Does anyone ever finished looking at social media and going
Speaker 1: I feel great? In the history of the planet, this
Speaker 1: is it.
Speaker 3: It's like, have you ever got a memory from looking
Speaker 3: at your phone? You know, like physically looking at it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I haven't. I've seen stuff obviously on my phone
Speaker 3: that I've watched it and it's like it's so weird.
Speaker 3: Those The thing that's made me laugh probably the most
Speaker 3: this year is a video of a guy maybe in
Speaker 3: like Bristol. I think he's on a walk with his
Speaker 3: I think he's with his mates and his mum maybe,
Speaker 3: and he falls down in the mud and he can't
Speaker 3: get back up, and he keeps falling down. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he's like, there's shit everywhere.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 3: Was crying with laughter watching that, and I just watched
Speaker 3: it over and over again for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: And then I saw it the other day.
Speaker 3: It came up again and I just it just wasn't
Speaker 3: doing I know, because the laughter had gone. But it
Speaker 3: just kind of made me think, God, that was a
Speaker 3: real moment in time for me when it hit me
Speaker 3: and I got into that cycle. And now I don't
Speaker 3: think i'll ever have that again. But maybe that's so,
Speaker 3: maybe that's a memory of looking at my phone. But Jesus,
Speaker 3: I've forgotten to tayte something. What the fuck I should
Speaker 3: have said it at the beginning. Fuck, let me just yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess I did write it down, but I was
Speaker 3: looking at the wrong paid. So I'll just say it.
Speaker 3: And then I've said it.
Speaker 1: The fuck. You've died.
Speaker 4: You're dead dead, You're dead dead, You're dead, all right, thoughts,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how did you die?
Speaker 3: I got a phone call from a number that I
Speaker 3: didn't know, and they were asking me to confirm all
Speaker 3: my details, date of birth, address, wait, hi, mum's maiden name.
Speaker 3: And then they said them all first to me, right,
Speaker 3: and they roll correct, and I was like, whoa, These
Speaker 3: people really know a lot about me. And then they
Speaker 3: said to me, We've got an opportunity for you, mister Autumn.
Speaker 3: We've been watching you very closely all your life, and
Speaker 3: it may surprise you to know we have added up
Speaker 3: every fifty pence piece you've ever us used and calculated
Speaker 3: the total weight of those coins and made it into
Speaker 3: a solid weight. And then they said, right, we're going
Speaker 3: to ask you a question. If we placed the weight
Speaker 3: on top of your chest, do you think it will
Speaker 3: kill you? Yes or no? And they said you can
Speaker 3: say yes, I think it will kill me and forget
Speaker 3: we ever called, and nothing will come of it. But
Speaker 3: if you say no, I don't think it will kill me,
Speaker 3: you can come to the experiment location and we will
Speaker 3: lower the weight slowly onto your chest. If you are
Speaker 3: correct and the weight is not heavy enough to kill you,
Speaker 3: you get the prize money that is fifty million pounds.
Speaker 3: I said, no, I don't think the weight will kill me.
Speaker 3: I met them in a warehouse. They lowered the weight
Speaker 3: onto me and it crushed me to death.
Speaker 1: Fucking Rob that's mad shit. Man, It's annoying, isn't it.
Speaker 1: At what point did you realize it was going to
Speaker 1: kill you? It was eight it was ages, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, did you see it? You could see the
Speaker 1: size of the thing as it was lowered.
Speaker 2: Well, I was surprised just how big the weight was.
Speaker 3: Really, I don't think I've spent that many fifty pence pieces.
Speaker 1: You know, when you walked in the warehouse to be like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I'm going to die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, I have that with stuff?
Speaker 3: No, I thought I would be okay, Like I've got
Speaker 3: that with stuff anyway, Like when a car walks past me,
Speaker 3: When a car walks past me, when a car drives
Speaker 3: past me, I want to put my foot under its
Speaker 3: wheel just to see if it breaks my foot or not.
Speaker 1: Do you have that? Yeah? Yeah, quite often? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Or I'm like I wonder if I mean, I never
Speaker 3: do it, but I'm like, I wonder what that would
Speaker 3: feel like. And I mean obviously would, but there's something
Speaker 3: about the suspension and tires and stuff like that would
Speaker 3: it just go over it or would it break every
Speaker 3: It would break every.
Speaker 2: Bone in my foot.
Speaker 3: So but with that, I mean I often think I'm like, wow, wow,
Speaker 3: what would that be like? But yeah, very slow, weighty,
Speaker 3: like two or three hours just being lowered onto your
Speaker 3: chest from all the fifty p's.
Speaker 1: So at that point it's like breaking you. It's breaking
Speaker 1: your ribs, but you're not dead yet, still going yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crushing your legs. And how many people are sort
Speaker 1: of standing around controlling this thing?
Speaker 2: Or is it just like one middle aged guy.
Speaker 1: Right, is he chatting to you while it's happening or I.
Speaker 3: Think he's He's just like just kept saying, well, it
Speaker 3: might not kill you, might not kill you. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I think this is pretty much going to kill me.
Speaker 3: Can we call it off? And he's like, no, just
Speaker 3: keep it going. And then you know, I think, finally,
Speaker 3: when the kind of weight such as the concrete and
Speaker 3: it's gone kind of through me or whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you think, well, does he seem bored? Does he
Speaker 1: seem like he does this every day all the time?
Speaker 3: Is he like a convey But I feel like he
Speaker 3: felt I feel like he was quite excited about it
Speaker 3: just in a weird way.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was almost felt like an episode or something where
Speaker 3: they were like, yeah, right, we're going to do this
Speaker 3: to this one person and then we're going to approach them,
Speaker 3: and it was like they're almost like their lives work,
Speaker 3: you know. And then I was going to say that
Speaker 3: the other photos of me everywhere, but I don't think
Speaker 3: think they were that. You know, they were just more
Speaker 3: interested in their idea than my.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a very tragic way to die. Do you
Speaker 1: worry about death?
Speaker 2: Do I worry about death?
Speaker 1: Do you know what?
Speaker 3: I don't? Actually I don't. That's I love that line
Speaker 3: in the Bright Eyes song. That's like, if your thoughts
Speaker 3: turned to death, you have to stamp them out like
Speaker 3: a cigarette. I sometimes I think about it and I
Speaker 3: think I just think, oh, man, Like I guess what
Speaker 3: selfishly upsets me is I want to try to get
Speaker 3: a grip on so much of life, and I just
Speaker 3: don't know if I ever will before dying. And that
Speaker 3: really upsets me because I feel like so many people,
Speaker 3: including me, just kind of you live for such a
Speaker 3: brief we have such a brief time. It's like you
Speaker 3: can't come to terms with it because you get to
Speaker 3: be about I don't know how old, and then your
Speaker 3: brain might start going and then you're just like, well
Speaker 3: it was an amazing in place. Well it was amazing,
Speaker 3: but there was a lot of people doing a lot
Speaker 3: of bad stuff there as well. So I was just like, fuck.
Speaker 1: I think it all. I sort of think as soon
Speaker 1: as you die it all makes sense. I think it
Speaker 1: all floods in your your sort of limited capacity for
Speaker 1: understanding explodes into one giant consciousness and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was all that, I get it.
Speaker 2: Oh I do you think so?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we're like these funnels that there's all
Speaker 1: the consciousness of the universe, but we're like the machinery
Speaker 1: of as is too primitive to contain it and understand it,
Speaker 1: and we're all doing our best. But then when you die,
Speaker 1: you're released from this and you go straight back into
Speaker 1: the giant universal consciousness and it all makes it. You're
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot this path.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just for me just trying to look
Speaker 3: at something and just try to stay amazed by it.
Speaker 2: And then I.
Speaker 3: Guess I am. I think I'm probably motivated by death.
Speaker 3: Biggest motivates.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wrote something once about like death being my mister motivator.
Speaker 2: Is on the gym Martin.
Speaker 3: He's got likes in like skin sight, black fabric on
Speaker 3: his bones or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I do think about I do. I mean, I
Speaker 3: get I do get depressed, and I get really anxious,
Speaker 3: and I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if depression is right. I just get really sad,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: But I think I think people do, don't they Maybe
Speaker 3: some people don't, but I have sort.
Speaker 1: Of you read statistics to say so, Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I read when it's like fifteen percent of people are depressed,
Speaker 1: and I was like, isn't it one hundred percent? I
Speaker 1: can't believe it.
Speaker 2: No, it's got sureless sure.
Speaker 3: I think that I want to be a sensitive enough
Speaker 3: person and turned on enough to see what's happening and go, God,
Speaker 3: this place could be absolutely amazing, and it is, but
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff that's going really really wrong,
Speaker 3: and that gets me down. And when I see like prejudice, inequality, war,
Speaker 3: it's just it's just obviously, and not to minimize it,
Speaker 3: but it's a bit of a downer.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 2: Oh no, don't get the press at all.
Speaker 1: It's like you know, what do you think happens when
Speaker 1: you die?
Speaker 2: I think that, you know.
Speaker 3: I saw a thing on TikTok the other day of
Speaker 3: this guy talking about his experience near death experience when
Speaker 3: it's kind of as you say, he just kind of
Speaker 3: went into this valley and everything was just so bright.
Speaker 3: It was like if you think everything's crisp and bright
Speaker 3: when you're on Earth and you just wait until you
Speaker 3: get to this place.
Speaker 2: It's in like ultra four.
Speaker 3: KHD, five K, eight K whatever, and it's there, and
Speaker 3: what I think, I don't know, the world is so
Speaker 3: flipping amazing. And you know, I was looking at these
Speaker 3: pictures of there's like quite a famous monkey on the
Speaker 3: internet that's got one arm and it's got quite loads
Speaker 3: of hair, and it's like these really sad eyes and
Speaker 3: it's and I was just looking at its hands and
Speaker 3: I was just like, what some people believe that that
Speaker 3: was someone created that and we're not completely different instead
Speaker 3: of like looking at it and going, that's pretty much
Speaker 3: exactly what we are with just a few steps removed
Speaker 3: and just going.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I like like if there's a heaven,
Speaker 3: Like I like thinking, I like thinking about that. I
Speaker 3: like thinking about heaven. I like thinking about what's the
Speaker 3: food like in heaven?
Speaker 2: You know, do I have low pack?
Speaker 3: You know? Is it expensive? You have to pay for it?
Speaker 3: What's the Wi Fi code?
Speaker 2: All that? You know it was going to be there?
Speaker 2: I really like.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite ideas I've ever heard is when
Speaker 3: you die, if you go to heaven, are your granny
Speaker 3: and grandpa. They're standing on the gates with signs with
Speaker 3: your name on it, you know, like people do at airports. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you go and see them and they're like, hey,
Speaker 3: you're going to like it. We're going to show you around.
Speaker 3: And like thinking about that. I think that we just
Speaker 3: need a bit of release and like thinking. If thinking
Speaker 3: about something makes you feel better about your life, then
Speaker 3: I think that's okay. If you're thinking, right, there's a
Speaker 3: golden that made this, then that's great.
Speaker 2: You know. If it can help you through life, then
Speaker 2: absolutely fair play.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something. I can answer all
Speaker 1: your questions. There is a heaven back there. Your granny
Speaker 1: and granddad are at the door. You come inside the
Speaker 1: shay round. You don't need money. Everything's free, of course
Speaker 1: it is. There's a buffet with all your favorite food,
Speaker 1: and it's filled with everyone you love. It's got your
Speaker 1: favorite thing in it. What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 3: Getting a USB stick in the right way around the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 1: It is every room is opened by a USB stick
Speaker 1: that you stick in a slot and the doors open
Speaker 1: up and it goes makes that lovely noise and you
Speaker 1: go in. It's fucking wonderful there. It's got the sky,
Speaker 1: it's got the water, it's got faces, it's got sand,
Speaker 1: and it's got yeah, the color yellow. It's everything you like.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's the sky in heaven people are
Speaker 2: looking up?
Speaker 1: I think you're looking looking down. I think it's surrounded
Speaker 1: by sky.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I've been thinking about this recently,
Speaker 3: I saw I just love that idea of I never
Speaker 3: I always think of the universe being like above us
Speaker 3: instead of it just being kind of all around us
Speaker 3: and below is like I never think that a planet
Speaker 3: is kind.
Speaker 2: Of behind me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, as I sit now, if you go back
Speaker 3: far enough, there's definitely a planet behind me, and like
Speaker 3: a not over there, like in front of me somewhere
Speaker 3: or like loads of planets. Go to Australia, keep going
Speaker 3: and there's loads of planets down there. As well. It's
Speaker 3: like just being like suspended and I love like that.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite thing about thinking. I can make myself
Speaker 3: feel things through thinking.
Speaker 1: Well, look you get to Heaven, you're ready grabbed. I'd
Speaker 1: let you in. That's so excited to see you. Everyone
Speaker 1: is there's usb stick sluts. They'll fit. It's great, le back,
Speaker 1: everything you want. But they won't talk about your life.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't talk about your life through film. The first
Speaker 1: thing they ask you is what's the first film you
Speaker 1: remember seeing?
Speaker 3: Well, my Nan would know this, and Nan and Popper
Speaker 3: because the first film I remember seeing was Crocodile Dundee,
Speaker 3: right fantastic, And it was when.
Speaker 2: My at my NaN's house.
Speaker 3: She had Crocodile dound on video and me and my
Speaker 3: sister and my cousins would sit down and watch it
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, we'd get bags of crisps and
Speaker 3: kinds of coke and just amazing. And so that's the
Speaker 3: first one really she had. Crocodile Dundee and Annie, oh wow,
Speaker 3: I love any is the reason your dad was obsessed
Speaker 3: with Australian crocodile And you know, maybe actually was, I
Speaker 3: mean he loves that film. My sister loves it. You know,
Speaker 3: there's just so many elements to it that I think
Speaker 3: it was my I think, do you know what it
Speaker 3: might be the first time I saw New York in
Speaker 3: a film as well, when he takes the small metal
Speaker 3: thing that's on the back of the limousine that he
Speaker 3: trucks as a boomerang, and it's just absolutely, yeah, I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 2: I love that film. And that's the first.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got vague memories of being in a
Speaker 3: cinema and watching some sort of cartoon when I was tiny,
Speaker 3: but I couldn't remember what that was.
Speaker 2: Two years older.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, i'd say so. I just don't just one
Speaker 3: of the things when you moved down to London, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm from York, just outside York, and I
Speaker 3: do sometimes think about what it would have been like
Speaker 3: if I'd have stayed there. I feel like we've got
Speaker 3: so much in the tank from being kids and being
Speaker 3: around each other all the time. Since we're eighteen, it's
Speaker 3: like that's kind of enough for us for life, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but no, I definitely definitely want to make more of
Speaker 3: an effort to go up to York more. And you
Speaker 3: know what, I really love that Baz Lehrman's song you
Speaker 3: know the Sunscreen one.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, that's that's like you to music.
Speaker 3: That's so I mean, and it's just like you know
Speaker 3: your siblings and you know they're the ones who've known
Speaker 3: you for longest and it's yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, she's great.
Speaker 3: And one of my friends, actually, John Osborn, who's a
Speaker 3: poet and writer, he was saying that one of his
Speaker 3: favorite facts about the band Blur is that they've all
Speaker 3: got sisters, and it kind of makes sense that Oasis
Speaker 3: would have brothers and all of Blur.
Speaker 1: Sisters that what's the film that scared you the best?
Speaker 1: Do you like being scared?
Speaker 3: Being scared can be fun, can't it? And being scared
Speaker 3: sometimes isn't fun. The film that scared me the most
Speaker 3: when I was growing up was Ghostbusters too, with the
Speaker 3: painting that came to life the goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: That was just it's me and still does know.
Speaker 3: Whenever I see that painting, I feel because it's just
Speaker 3: like a still image that comes to life that it's
Speaker 3: just so loaded and he's there and it's like the
Speaker 3: most kind of grim, just determined looking person who's going
Speaker 3: to wreak havoc on your life, and I'm like, oh, god, man,
Speaker 3: just leave me alone. I don't I don't want anything
Speaker 3: to do with it. Please, And I don't know, there's
Speaker 3: something about it that that really scared me. Do I
Speaker 3: like being scared? Once he get out at one of
Speaker 3: the cinemas in in Waltham store and it was such
Speaker 3: a fun experience because everyone in there was just screaming
Speaker 3: and it was such an interactive thing and people were
Speaker 3: chucking popcorn everywhere and it was it was like being
Speaker 3: in a theme park, you know, like a ghost house
Speaker 3: or whatever, and it was just awesome.
Speaker 2: So that I love that. But scary films, I mean
Speaker 2: I went through a stage of watching like foreign films
Speaker 2: like Fanny and Alexander, and I only got.
Speaker 3: Half with it.
Speaker 2: That was like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and me and my wife Victoria, we were watching
Speaker 3: it was like you think we can watch the Sixth
Speaker 3: Sense And we put it on and she went down
Speaker 3: to the basement the lady in the film and got chills.
Speaker 3: You know. She's like, I was just no, turn it off,
Speaker 3: can't come watch it. Yeah, I'm scared, you know. I
Speaker 3: think about the afterlife and when I get spooked in
Speaker 3: a house I do get, you know, I've got something
Speaker 3: really weird happened to me once in a hotel when
Speaker 3: I was in Hereford. There was this thing, it's called
Speaker 3: the gold It was called I think it was called
Speaker 3: the Golden Dragon Hotel or something. And I just got
Speaker 3: back from the gig and something felt really weird, and
Speaker 3: I kept on nodding off to sleep. I was I
Speaker 3: was just about to nod off to sleep, and the
Speaker 3: phone rang next to the and I picked it up
Speaker 3: and no one was there, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's weird, and then it went back to sleep again.
Speaker 3: I tried to go just nodding off, and then just
Speaker 3: as I was about to nod off, the phone rang again,
Speaker 3: and then no one was there. And then I just
Speaker 3: started absolutely shipping myself, and I unplugged the phone. And
Speaker 3: in the morning I googled it like the name of
Speaker 3: the hotel, and then haunted, never do that, not if
Speaker 3: you're staying like for another night. And they were talking
Speaker 3: about poltergeist activity in the rooms, like kettles switching on
Speaker 3: and off, taps turning on and off. And the next
Speaker 3: night I just made sure everything was completely unplugged and nothing,
Speaker 3: nothing could move basically. And in the morning I went
Speaker 3: down and I was going down to like sign out
Speaker 3: or whatever on my keying, and the dog was walking
Speaker 3: around the corner and the dog was shivering and shaking,
Speaker 3: and the owner was going, what's wrong, what's wrong?
Speaker 2: And the dog was just like and I just thought,
Speaker 2: oh God, this is not good.
Speaker 3: And I said to the lady behind the counter, is
Speaker 3: there a guest book for me to fill in? And
Speaker 3: she went no, why And I said, oh, no reason.
Speaker 3: She said, oh, have you had some strange goings on
Speaker 3: in your room? And I said, well, yeah, the phone
Speaker 3: kept on ringing and she went, oh, well there's a
Speaker 3: poltergeist in room fourteen, but you weren't in that room,
Speaker 3: so it shouldn't have been in your I.
Speaker 1: Was like, why, my god, which is just mad? Who
Speaker 1: are they putting in room fourteen? There?
Speaker 3: If you're read on the phone, they go put him
Speaker 3: in fourteen. But maybe it's something to do with energy
Speaker 3: knocking around. And I definitely believe that if there's no
Speaker 3: the millions and millions and billions of people that have
Speaker 3: lived and the souls and everything like that, there's got
Speaker 3: to be something left over.
Speaker 1: Surely, Yeah, I think so, I like that what is
Speaker 1: the film that made you cry the most?
Speaker 2: And do you cry Forrest Gump?
Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man, it's the film I've watched the most, is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people don't have too much
Speaker 3: time for that film, but it was.
Speaker 2: I got it when I was at university.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's like when HMV did three for
Speaker 3: twenty quid or something, and I remember we get our
Speaker 3: student loans and just go and buy loads and loads
Speaker 3: of DVDs.
Speaker 1: What is the other two you got?
Speaker 3: I know, I mean one of my mates, Colin and Andy.
Speaker 3: You know, I've got loads of friends who are really
Speaker 3: into films, and they were always quite quick on the
Speaker 3: uptake of when films were released on DVD and you
Speaker 3: could get the cardboard sleeves, which is just something for
Speaker 3: me that the action of getting, like my mom mate
Speaker 3: Colin's got like the pulp fiction one where you open
Speaker 3: it and it's I think it's in a blue thing
Speaker 3: with red metallic writing on the front, and just opening
Speaker 3: it and you see the really kind of such vivid
Speaker 3: I don't know, it just gives you an experience and
Speaker 3: added experience of the film and I love that, And
Speaker 3: I don't know what the other films would have been,
Speaker 3: but Forrest Gump was definitely one that I mean, you
Speaker 3: know the bit I cry quite a lot throughout it,
Speaker 3: you know, when when he's running past the lake and
Speaker 3: he's like, we didn't know where the where heaven started
Speaker 3: and the world stopped or whatever. I'm going to misquote it,
Speaker 3: but you know, we are due buried under our favorite tree,
Speaker 3: and when he's talking about Jenny. And but probably the
Speaker 3: bit that just slaves me every time is when he
Speaker 3: goes back and sees the little boy who was any
Speaker 3: in sixth sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, John Lesbian very good.
Speaker 2: He goes is he smart?
Speaker 3: Jenny, and she goes, he's one of the smartest in
Speaker 3: his class, and he's just he just can't believe it,
Speaker 3: you know, And that really hits home for me, Like
Speaker 3: I think that, like I do worry that if I
Speaker 3: had a son, he would get some of the bad
Speaker 3: stuff that's kind of in my brain passed down and
Speaker 3: I'd just be like, oh, I'd just be like if
Speaker 3: that was me in the same situation, I'd be like,
Speaker 3: is he okay? Is he happy? He was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's the happiest people, you know. I'll be like and
Speaker 3: I'm happy, but it's like there's a darkness and I'm
Speaker 3: just like I get it.
Speaker 1: I completely get it is a fear. I very much
Speaker 1: relate to that. If I had a kid, it would
Speaker 1: turn out like me, Yeah, let's not do that. We
Speaker 1: know one of them.
Speaker 3: But no, I think that I feel that when I
Speaker 3: love the world, I love it so hard and the
Speaker 3: people in it, and you know, I'm so lucky to
Speaker 3: have like met the people that a lot of them.
Speaker 3: But when he when he says is he smart, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that?
Speaker 2: Does that does get me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is the film that you love critically? It's not
Speaker 1: a claim to people don't like it, but you love
Speaker 1: and conditionally water World? Yeah? Great and perfect, perfect answer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that film. Yeah, it's fagging great.
Speaker 3: I think you know, it had me from the universal
Speaker 3: world turning to water and like come on, let's go.
Speaker 2: And I think it's just such a good idea. The
Speaker 2: world is water.
Speaker 1: Topic idea well executed.
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, And you know what, Like I used to
Speaker 3: work at advertising and ideas, it's just all about the idea.
Speaker 3: It's like you've got to have an idea, no matter
Speaker 3: what it is. This is the idea, and one of
Speaker 3: the best ideas I've seen recently was it was Ricky.
Speaker 3: I think Ricky Gervase directed it, maybe he wrote it.
Speaker 3: It's that short film seven Minutes. Did you see that
Speaker 3: with Joe Wilkinson?
Speaker 1: Right, No, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: Well, the idea basically, two people just by chance, go
Speaker 3: to take their own lives at the same time on
Speaker 3: the same side of the railway track, and they're both
Speaker 3: there and they're both waiting to kill themselves at the
Speaker 3: same time, and I'm just like, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's the idea.
Speaker 3: Great, amazing, I think, yeah, last seven minutes, I think
Speaker 3: it's called seven minutes, and then you know they end
Speaker 3: up chatting and but yeah, it's just like such a
Speaker 3: crystal clear idea.
Speaker 2: But water World, Yeah, that's it. I love Dennis Opper.
Speaker 3: I think it's just absolutely brilliant in true roma, is it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's brilliant in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean you don't need me to tell you that.
Speaker 3: I think he's brilliant in that. And then what else.
Speaker 3: He's a bad guy in speed right yeah, and believe
Speaker 3: of it?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just unreal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect answer, perfect, perfect answer. What is the film
Speaker 1: that you used to love, he loved it, he voiced
Speaker 1: it recently, any but oh no, I don't like this anymore.
Speaker 1: Dangerous Minds De Michelle school teacher masterpiece with the song
Speaker 1: Gangs to Paradise over the opening credits, go on, what
Speaker 1: in the f could be wrong with that masterpiece?
Speaker 3: I've just got memories of seeing it when I was young,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I just I just think I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that film's great. I've got you know, I love Gangster's
Speaker 3: Paradise and I just thought, yeah, that film. And then
Speaker 3: it's great when you're talking to your partner and you're like, hey,
Speaker 3: have you seen this? And you find a film that
Speaker 3: they haven't seen, you go, dangerous minds, have you seen it? No?
Speaker 3: Oh this is wicked. Let's put this on. And then
Speaker 3: you put it on and it's just so on the
Speaker 3: nose and they're just spelling it out, every little bit
Speaker 3: of you know, they don't leave anything to the imagination whatsoever,
Speaker 3: and you're just sitting there going, oh shit, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, I think that I haven't seen that since
Speaker 1: it came out, and I loved it, loved it, loved it.
Speaker 1: But obviously I was very young, and I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: probably you know has its issues, but I think about
Speaker 1: it is lodged in my brain that at the end
Speaker 1: of that film she's going to quit and she doesn't quit,
Speaker 1: and then the guy says to her what happened and
Speaker 1: she says, they tell me I was there late, and
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, that'll do it. Think about that a lot.
Speaker 1: I think that's a lovely it's lovely fucking thing.
Speaker 3: Well, there you go. I would say keep it like that.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm being hard on it and dangerous.
Speaker 1: Man, it's very dated and I'm sure, I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: lots frong of it.
Speaker 3: No, it's still a good watch.
Speaker 1: Do you know? What is an interesting fact about Dangerous
Speaker 1: Minds that you may not know is that al Pacino
Speaker 1: was in that film, but he was cut. There was
Speaker 1: an entire storyline with al Pacino where he was like
Speaker 1: her love interest, and for some reason they cut all
Speaker 1: of that stuff because they were like, actually, it just
Speaker 1: needs to be about the class and with the school.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine they had al Pacino in the film
Speaker 1: and they went, you know what, we don't need this stuff. Wow,
Speaker 1: no one is safe.
Speaker 2: Have you met al Pacino?
Speaker 1: No? Right, have you? Here's my uncle Wordly? What is
Speaker 1: the film that means the most to you. Not necessarily
Speaker 1: the film itself is any good, but the experience you
Speaker 1: had seeing it will always make it meaningful to you.
Speaker 3: Mister roboton, well, I'm going to say Nativity right, another
Speaker 3: perfect answer going just because I'd never seen it. My
Speaker 3: wife Ritzora has seen it and it just became a
Speaker 3: Christmas tradition, and those I love the birth of Christmas traditions.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, the songs in it,
Speaker 3: I think are just fantastic.
Speaker 1: That's a bit excellent. I don't think ifty has ever
Speaker 1: come up on this podcast, so well done. What is
Speaker 1: Robot and the sexiest film you've ever seen? No?
Speaker 3: For me, I'm going back into my teenage years here, okay,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to say Caddy Shack just because of
Speaker 3: the sexy. There's basically that there's a lady, a smoking
Speaker 3: ot woman who gets with one of the caddies.
Speaker 2: It was called Indy Morgan.
Speaker 3: And that for me was just because I used to
Speaker 3: play golf a lot when I was young. Yea, And yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's it.
Speaker 1: There is a subcategory traveling boners worrying the film we
Speaker 1: found arousing, you weren't sure you should. All right, what
Speaker 1: is it lion king? Yeah, well, it depends on which part.
Speaker 3: I used to quite like Simber's moms mom, you know Sabi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh interesting, very.
Speaker 3: Assured, felt like she could look after me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what fucking fair place to you. Lion
Speaker 1: Kings come up a lot, but it's usually people are
Speaker 1: talking about nana, but you were with the mom. I'd
Speaker 1: say that's classic. You're a classy guy.
Speaker 2: Oh people have had worrying bonus foranala.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean that you must have covered so
Speaker 3: much ground in this on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Like no, well it's never the mom's never come up.
Speaker 1: I really think that's the classy choice. I think that
Speaker 1: says a lot about your traveling boners, even your traveling
Speaker 1: boners at all, for okay, and display a sort of
Speaker 1: degree you have sort of thought, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because what you don't see is symbol's mum rolling around,
Speaker 1: you know, nearly snugging and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So that's just the boner, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a I'd say, that's a proud.
Speaker 2: No trouble with this boner.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a boner that is like lifting its
Speaker 1: hat and saying good evening, mum to this.
Speaker 2: You are a sane member of society.
Speaker 1: Do not worry you could be elected if you run
Speaker 1: on that. I'd say, like, it's made me like you more.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a man who is good with
Speaker 1: women elected. Did you say, yeah, yeah, you could be
Speaker 1: an elected official.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is the film you most relate to? Robot It?
Speaker 3: It's a duplicate answer Forrest, I'm going to say that again.
Speaker 1: Is it because you run and are also thoughtful?
Speaker 3: I think there's just bits in it where he says
Speaker 3: stuff like I am not a smart man, but I
Speaker 3: know what lover is. I feel that very much of
Speaker 3: being like, not particularly intellectual, but I feel like I
Speaker 3: can I can feel.
Speaker 2: Stuff and that's enough, isn't it? Is that enough?
Speaker 3: Maybe not? I mean not when you're doing your tax return.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll accept your answer because it's your answer. But
Speaker 1: I would say, like, you're one of the most intenis
Speaker 1: of people I know. But I sort of get you
Speaker 1: why you would say that, But you're incredibly immotingly articulate
Speaker 1: and thoughtful, and we you know, I mean you probably
Speaker 1: This is why I'm voting for you for President of England.
Speaker 1: By the way we've changed our system and now we
Speaker 1: have a president. I'll toss it anyway. What is objectively
Speaker 1: the greatest film ever made?
Speaker 3: Well, my favorite film is Forrest Gum, but I think
Speaker 3: the film the best bit of filmmaking I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Is No mad Land.
Speaker 3: I just absolutely loved every shot of that, every minute,
Speaker 3: every bit of music, you know, the story. It's just
Speaker 3: so much heart. And I only saw it for the
Speaker 3: first time on the plane on the way back from
Speaker 3: Australia and my old comedy friend Gareth Richards who sadly
Speaker 3: passed away, and when I was over there and his
Speaker 3: brother and sister in law Chloe's out is like his
Speaker 3: sister in law, And at the end of the film,
Speaker 3: I thought about, you know, for the ones we see
Speaker 3: down the road and things like that, and I.
Speaker 2: Was just like.
Speaker 3: It just I don't know, it was one of the
Speaker 3: biggest moment, like because I'd never had a friend not
Speaker 3: be here anymore, and I don't know, there was just
Speaker 3: something about that seeing that film in the sky that
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was just kind of epic.
Speaker 3: It was it was it was an epic moment, and
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just felt so much and you know,
Speaker 3: so many people being around you on that flight, and
Speaker 3: I think there's something about aeroplane flights where everyone's obviously
Speaker 3: traveling in the same direction, and it's the same for buses, whatever.
Speaker 3: But there's something about being up in the sky. And
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's something about being in a plane
Speaker 3: that just really makes me think about my life. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's because I'm worried about it crashing or whatever, or
Speaker 3: it like I hope we get there, you know, And
Speaker 3: it's just just something about it that just makes me
Speaker 3: really take stock. And maybe it's because I don't fly
Speaker 3: too often. I guess if you're a frequent flyer, you
Speaker 3: might the novelty or the emotion of it might wear
Speaker 3: off a bit, or maybe people just don't have that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think there's something about being in that seat and
Speaker 3: just like you've got you've got everything outside of you know, everything,
Speaker 3: there's all just so much space around you somehow makes
Speaker 3: me feel more to do with my person or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like your feet being off the ground. It is a
Speaker 3: magic things. Do you think planes make all films better?
Speaker 3: I have a rule when on planes like the films
Speaker 3: that I will watch on the plane. Are the films
Speaker 3: I wouldn't see, Like I've always want to see a
Speaker 3: film at the cinema, So either if I've completely missed it,
Speaker 3: I might watch it on a plane. But otherwise I
Speaker 3: will like watch a film like I'll take a punt,
Speaker 3: like a film that I think I wouldn't have enjoyed,
Speaker 3: so I think I see it, I'll watch that on
Speaker 3: the plane, and then ninety percent at the time love it.
Speaker 1: I'm always like, I'm glad I took that. And it
Speaker 1: might be because I'm on a plane and I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to die, but they're all better.
Speaker 2: On that flight back.
Speaker 3: I watched Tar the Whale, No mod Land and the
Speaker 3: Meet the Favorites.
Speaker 2: Is just called The Favors Meet the Fablemans.
Speaker 1: What a fucking journey you watched, absolutely Baggers.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was great. That was great.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I ever watched a film
Speaker 3: on an aeroplane was Twister. Yeah it was a dramatic
Speaker 3: film to watch on aeroplane, but I remember watching it
Speaker 3: and then the flight was just over. It was like,
Speaker 3: oh flip, I didn't look out the window once, you know, sh.
Speaker 1: Now, mad Land is a beautiful film. I really like
Speaker 1: that film and really like it surprised me when I
Speaker 1: saw it. I sort of assumed from seeing the trailer
Speaker 1: maybe or the reading better, so this is going to
Speaker 1: be a depressing film, and it's not at all. It's
Speaker 1: so it is so full of heart and it's so
Speaker 1: lovely and I love that I see you down the road.
Speaker 1: It's just beautiful.
Speaker 3: I think those moments of the lady talking about the
Speaker 3: bits of life that made her feel like she had lived,
Speaker 3: like seeing the eggshells fall on the water, and I
Speaker 3: guess that goes back to what was talking about before,
Speaker 3: of just trying to have these small moments that you
Speaker 3: can just cling onto forever to try to make you
Speaker 3: feel like you've lived. And yeah, that resonate with me
Speaker 3: so hard of just like I think, you know, I
Speaker 3: saw those people get off that rocket who went up
Speaker 3: into space, and they got off there, and you could
Speaker 3: tell I think I could tell I might be speaking
Speaker 3: out of turn here, but for me, I think they
Speaker 3: kind of realized that's not where it is, Like it's
Speaker 3: all right going up in space in them and whatever,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But it's it's like just those moments
Speaker 3: that grip you It's like you can try to make
Speaker 3: yourself feel something as much as you want, but it ain't.
Speaker 3: That's not how feelings work, is it. Who are you
Speaker 3: talking about? Getting off the rocket? Jeff Bezos on it?
Speaker 1: Oh that lot? Oh you think you think they got back?
Speaker 1: And was like, oh that was pretty.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if it was on it, but
Speaker 3: maybe it was absolutely brilliant. And I've got no idea
Speaker 3: what I'm on about. Who am I to judge?
Speaker 1: What is the film that you could or I have
Speaker 1: watched the Moze over and over again.
Speaker 2: Napoleon Dynamite. Ah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: I think for me, it's it looks like I can't
Speaker 3: I can't believe that it was filmed in these times
Speaker 3: in this world, it looks like it was. It's from
Speaker 3: another time, like another planet that's very similar to ours
Speaker 3: but not quite the same one. And the filmmaking on that,
Speaker 3: like the direction and the dialogue just marries up so
Speaker 3: well to create this world. I just love it. And
Speaker 3: I think about the dialogue like, and I want to
Speaker 3: say it to people, like, you know, if I go
Speaker 3: up to my when I go up to my parents
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks and I'm like, we're having
Speaker 3: a meal.
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you guys having a killer time? They'd
Speaker 2: just be like what.
Speaker 3: I want to try to work it into my vocabulary
Speaker 3: or I don't know, it's just great.
Speaker 1: I just love it. On the other side of things,
Speaker 1: we don't know it to be negative. But what's the
Speaker 1: worst film I've ever seen?
Speaker 3: I might say die Hard Too? Is that controversial? I
Speaker 3: love the die Hards, But for me, I'm thinking on
Speaker 3: my feet here, But you think Too is the worst?
Speaker 1: Die haad?
Speaker 2: What falls worse?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that again?
Speaker 1: Is the worst? Is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think so, let's not say that.
Speaker 1: Then five sort of offensive, like it's got stuff in
Speaker 1: it where I'm like, this is mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still liked it. I loved them.
Speaker 3: We watched die Hard with Vengeance the other night and
Speaker 3: I think that that was just done.
Speaker 1: That was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's brilliant, isn't it. I'm what could we do
Speaker 3: because I can't think.
Speaker 2: Of one at the moment.
Speaker 1: Well, you can. You can have die Hard Too, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna not let you have it. I mean,
Speaker 1: you want to be controverted, Listen, you've always been a
Speaker 1: controversial kind of guy. Yeah, that's no brand. What is
Speaker 1: the film you're in comedy? You're very funny. What's the
Speaker 1: film that made you laugh the most? Though?
Speaker 3: The film that I can remember laughing at the most
Speaker 3: in my life, that film is Austin Poe's to the
Speaker 3: Spy Who Sham? I feel because it's yeah, maybe it
Speaker 3: was the age of was that on DVD? I remember
Speaker 3: it came in like it was one of those that
Speaker 3: was in a white case, and we didn't have a
Speaker 3: DVD player at the time apart from on my mom
Speaker 3: and Dad's PC tower, so I'd have to put it
Speaker 3: in there and then like sit in the computer chair
Speaker 3: and watch it on the computer monitor.
Speaker 2: But I remember going to the cinema to see it.
Speaker 2: The bit that.
Speaker 3: Made me laugh the most was when Me and and
Speaker 3: Me comes in for the first time on the scoot
Speaker 3: when he's beeping the horn. It was just it was
Speaker 3: just it just got me so bad. And then obviously
Speaker 3: Fat Fastard. It's just like, I feel like I've grown
Speaker 3: out of that character now, but I just just it
Speaker 3: just made me laugh so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, excellent answer, Robotson. You have been a joy,
Speaker 1: a treat a wonder. However, when you were you got
Speaker 1: a phone call from an unknown number and they said,
Speaker 1: we just want to take your details and now do
Speaker 1: exact weight, age, height, i Q, date of birth, et cetera,
Speaker 1: place of birth, possible number. And they said, do you
Speaker 1: think of all the fifty pees you spent the world,
Speaker 1: if we put them all together, it would be enough
Speaker 1: to kill you. If you say yes, I do, we'll
Speaker 1: leave you alone if you say if we say If
Speaker 1: you say now, I don't think, so, then comes to
Speaker 1: this warehouse and let us try. If it doesn't kill you,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a shit. It will give you all
Speaker 1: the money in the world. And you went, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't think get word. And you turned up at
Speaker 1: the warehouse. It's just a sort of bored looking man.
Speaker 1: And as you walked in you saw this sort of
Speaker 1: fucking monolith of a metallic thing on a on a
Speaker 1: wire and you're like, no, this don't look great. And
Speaker 1: he says, just lie down, lie down on the on
Speaker 1: the warehouse floor, and you lay downs a bit dusty,
Speaker 1: and he very slowly lowered the thing and you said
Speaker 1: to him, do you know what, as it's getting nearer,
Speaker 1: I think, I think I might have misjudged this, and
Speaker 1: he goes, well, let's see, let's stry it out. We'll see,
Speaker 1: and it sort of touches your chest and you're like immediately,
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't be missing good idea, and he
Speaker 1: lowers it slowly and you keep going how often are
Speaker 1: you doing this? And he goes sort of every day,
Speaker 1: every other day. Sometimes sometimes people do say no and
Speaker 1: say yes they do, and so they don't sow happen anyway.
Speaker 1: They go, thank you for keeping your appointment, because that
Speaker 1: doesn't always happen, and you go, that's fine. And as
Speaker 1: it's it's as low as a bit further, and it's
Speaker 1: you think, I fucking hell, I think that cracks a
Speaker 1: rib and you're like, do you know what point made?
Speaker 1: Point made? I get it point, I do think this
Speaker 1: is going to kill me. You win, and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: a deal is a deal, and you go, I know
Speaker 1: that I'm a man of honor. And it lowers it
Speaker 1: a bit further and another rib cracks and you go, listen,
Speaker 1: you keep all the fifty pes, you can keep them
Speaker 1: all and he goes, no, listen, we made a deal,
Speaker 1: and it's crushing your lungs starts crushing your lungs and
Speaker 1: you feel like someone in the fucking deepest breath and
Speaker 1: your lungs is low like a fist, and you're like, honestly, mate,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. And then he lows it a
Speaker 1: little bit further and your spleen explodes in saying You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: and then you start bleeding out your mouth like in
Speaker 1: Jaws when Quinn is being eating up the boat, and
Speaker 1: then you're like and then he loads it one more
Speaker 1: time and he crushes your spying your and then it
Speaker 1: goes even further, and then you're dead. I'm working by
Speaker 1: with a coffin, you know what I'm like, And I'm like, hello, mate,
Speaker 1: how's your day? To the man, he says, yeah, add
Speaker 1: another one. He said, you know, he's over twenty. He's
Speaker 1: definitely spent a lot of fifty p's. It's mad to
Speaker 1: me that he didn't think and then make you know
Speaker 1: the metal. But he says, you'd be amazed how many
Speaker 1: people pick that it's only children really, and even children,
Speaker 1: I'd say, have a chance anyway, I go, yeah, it happens.
Speaker 1: I go, here'd you get today to go? Robert? And
Speaker 1: I go, fuck, you know, I love Robort and really, ah,
Speaker 1: that's his shame. And he goes give me a hand.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, sure, I come in with the coffin,
Speaker 1: mean him, pull the thing up. But you're stuck to
Speaker 1: some of the fifty He goes, oh, this has happened before.
Speaker 1: We get an axe together, chopping off some of the
Speaker 1: fifty p's to get some of your body. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: pick you up, get all the bits of you that
Speaker 1: there are, get out the floor, get a digger out,
Speaker 1: get some concrete in there. I stuff you in the coffin.
Speaker 1: Coffin is absolutely rammed. There's only enough room in it
Speaker 1: for me to slip one DVD into the side for
Speaker 1: you to take across to the other side. And on
Speaker 1: the other side, it's a movie night with your Nan
Speaker 1: and Popper every night in the USB open doorways and
Speaker 1: one it's your movie night. What film are you taking
Speaker 1: to show Nanny and Popper in Heaven when it's your
Speaker 1: movie night, robot it it's going to have to be
Speaker 1: crocodiled on, do you? Isn't it beautiful? Beautiful? That's storytelling
Speaker 1: right there. The end is the beginning. Beautiful, Thank you,
Speaker 1: robot In. Would you like to tell people to go
Speaker 1: and see you on tour or some other things you
Speaker 1: would like to talk about.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, please, I'm going on tour and doing my
Speaker 3: show called The Robotons Show from the end of January.
Speaker 3: Tickets are at roboton dot co dot uk. And I'm
Speaker 3: starting doing my daily podcast as well from January the first.
Speaker 3: That's a poem and a story every day.
Speaker 1: How long is your daily podcast that ever?
Speaker 3: Well, they range from two minutes to twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Wow, lazy, but I'm looking forward to doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, it's it's good. Last time I
Speaker 3: did it was twenty twenty. I want to do it
Speaker 3: like a World Cup once every four years.
Speaker 1: Really really good idea. Roboton, You're a wonder. Thank you
Speaker 1: for doing this, Thank you for your time, thank you
Speaker 1: for your secret, and thank you for your brains. I
Speaker 1: vote for you for president. Have a wonderful death. Good
Speaker 1: day to you. Thank you for having me bruts. So
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