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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our number two of the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and Line along.

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Speaker 2: Feel like we've been chatted in a while, wound up.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of stuff to talk about. Absolutely, and well, Matt,

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Speaker 1: as we talked about last week, the post Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: mock drafts, Yeah, are starting to drop here. So I

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Speaker 1: thought we'd go through one today here to kick off

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Speaker 1: our number two.

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Speaker 2: This one. There's a lot of good ones out there.

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Speaker 1: Two rounders and yeah, I like the two rounders. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now we've got the Senior Bowl in the book.

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Speaker 1: We've thought. We've done so many mocks now that everybody

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Speaker 1: kind of knows the names in the first round.

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Speaker 2: And really those first eight aren't that interesting, especially from

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Speaker 2: a Steeler person. They're already gone.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't really.

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Speaker 2: Care where if Rome ends up here and Neighbors ends

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Speaker 2: up there. Yeah, there are neither one's gonna be Steeler.

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Speaker 2: So what's the different The.

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Speaker 1: Thing that I've noticed about this draft, because you know

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Speaker 1: how we usually talk about there are you know this

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Speaker 1: many guys are first rounders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know where that line is, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it's at either. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: might be deeper this year. They're definitely a nice group

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Speaker 1: of blue chippers, more than there has been. You know,

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Speaker 1: some of these tackles might even push their way into that.

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Speaker 1: I think there's three receivers, three quarterbacks. You know that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more blue chippers. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: the line ends of surefire first rounders though, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure either. I do know there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of offensive lineman taken, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think twenty is a good spot to be.

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Speaker 1: I think this draft goes down to about one thirty

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Speaker 1: ish in pretty good prospects. Yeah, and then it falls

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Speaker 1: off pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: It does. Again, I don't pretend to know the six

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Speaker 2: and seventh rounders at all at this point, and we'll

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Speaker 2: learn them as we go, and we'll learn them all together, folks.

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Speaker 2: But everyone that's deep into this says it's good at

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Speaker 2: the top. Day three is going to be rough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When I've done my mock dress, I'm like dath, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at Day three guys. Yeah. Yeah, So it might

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Speaker 1: not be a bad year to not have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of Day three picks.

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Speaker 2: I agree, don't count on them for much. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe a draft like you said a random running back

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Speaker 2: or you know things like that.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive in here. This is a two round mock

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Speaker 1: draft on the thirty third teams when done by Connor Lives.

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Speaker 1: This is his post Senior Bowl mock draft.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to comment much on the first five picks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors. You know of the names Roe Madoonza at six,

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Speaker 1: at seven, Joe Alt at eight, Dallas Turner. So that's

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Speaker 1: a little different. Yeah, yeah, okay, nine Terry and Arnold

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Speaker 1: goes to the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Or more and more people talk at him as cornerback. One.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At ten for Shanu, the offense tackle goes to

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Speaker 1: Penn State or goes to the Jets, I should say

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Speaker 1: he's from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I would think they'd be thrilled about that. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: would love that They'll get some tackle there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Eleven, although their history of Penn State draftees has

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Speaker 1: not necessarily worked out real well.

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Speaker 2: Who am I missing? I can't come up with any names.

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Speaker 2: Off they took the.

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Speaker 1: Tight end to one year when the Carady cal Brady.

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Speaker 1: They took the quarterback in the second round.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Hackenberg early second round, Yeah, missus good point.

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Speaker 1: Eleven Minnesota takes Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 2: They're an interesting pivot point. Yeah, they could go a

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Speaker 2: lot of different directions. Yeah, Byron Murphy that early, and

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Speaker 2: that's why I didn't go in the senable people are

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Speaker 2: telling him, you're going to be a top ten to

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Speaker 2: So he's probably gonna be the first de tackle off

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Speaker 1: At twelve, Leaut two left lat two goes to uh.

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Speaker 2: Denver, Okay.

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Speaker 1: At thirteen, the Raiders take JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: There's Michigans on him. I don't see it. I haven't

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Speaker 2: studied studied them. A couple of people I really trust,

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Speaker 2: love them. I know Kuiper's into them, so that means

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Speaker 2: people in the league must like him. Harbaugh adores them,

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Speaker 2: for whatever that's worth. But I'd love to see him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have four quarterbacks going to like, that's gonna

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Speaker 2: Fall hear those edge rushers, Yeah, you know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: At fourteen, the Sight the Saints take Tyler Geiton.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, Penning has not worked out for them.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen, the Colts take brock Bauers.

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Speaker 2: I bet tie thrilled.

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Speaker 1: They would be static.

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Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of needs. They can bring

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Speaker 1: They could be this, get them another their weapons.

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Speaker 1: At sixteen, the Seahawks take Jared Versary, the edge rusher

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Speaker 1: out of Florida State. Sure. At seventeen, the Jaguars take

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Speaker 1: t Las Fluaga, the offensive tackle from Oregon State.

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Speaker 2: That would make some sense too. They went tackle last year,

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Speaker 2: but their line needs work.

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Speaker 1: At eighteen, the Bengals take J. C. Latham, the offensive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. We didn't know one's talking about Latham

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Speaker 2: and Mims, but those guys are unbelievab.

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Speaker 1: They've done anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: They've done a thing wrong.

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Speaker 1: Right. At nineteen, the Rams take Cooper de Jean, the

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Speaker 2: You could see that, so that'd be second corner off

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Speaker 2: the board. Uh, yes, yeah, the Bama guy went first. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At twenty, the Steelers take Jackson Powers Johnson Boom, the

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he gets there. I mean there's two

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Speaker 1: And he's yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I can't argue with any of the picks

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Speaker 1: that were not ahead of.

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Speaker 2: Him, not at all. I mean, would you take that today? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think I would too. I mean, you know, I hit.

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Speaker 1: Missing out on Dejene because I think he's a special

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Speaker 2: We've just seen the value of that guy over our

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Speaker 2: lifetimes with this organization, you know, I mean the ripple effect,

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Speaker 2: the leadership, the durability, I mean not durability, but the reliability.

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Speaker 2: You know that your line would be pretty darn good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for a long time.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers are in desperate need of a starting

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Speaker 1: center after a dominant showing at the Recy's Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Jacks Powers Johnson cemented himself in Round one conversation and

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Speaker 1: could be the first center drafted. Powers Johnson only has

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Speaker 1: one year of starting experience, but his tape and work

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Speaker 1: he did in mobile or Mobile Mobile, I should say

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Speaker 1: have him as one of the biggest winners of the

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Speaker 1: off season. I think he's a stud. Yeah, he just

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Speaker 2: I say he's very very young and just doesn't have

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Speaker 2: this mix and mocks two weeks ago. But everyone in

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Speaker 2: the league knew that watched his tape. He's been doing

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Speaker 1: I think I saw something. He would be like the

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Speaker 1: heaviest center in the league. But he doesn't move like

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Speaker 1: he moved. He moves like he's three hundred pounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to root him up putting those tackle over. No.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't watch a ton of college, but

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Speaker 2: the year, Oregon was playing meaningful games and I'm like, boy,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this guy. I thought, boy, he looks

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Speaker 2: a little light. He's not light at all. That's one

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Speaker 1: He is wide.

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Speaker 2: At twenty one, I think I would trade number twenty

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Speaker 2: for him right now. Yeah, which would I wouldn't rarely do.

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Speaker 2: In February second or whatever this is.

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Speaker 1: At twenty one, the Dolphins take Graham Barton the offense.

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Speaker 1: I'man from Duke.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure Johnson can get past Miami. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: They would probably put Barton at center or somewhere on

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Speaker 1: At twenty two, the Eagles take Quinya Mitchell, the cornerback

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Speaker 1: from Toledo, so his him is his number three corner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I would take powers Johnson over Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: I would too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the probably take some of the tackles over Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: I want to I don't want to take a chance.

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Speaker 1: It's that there's just like they did with you know

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Speaker 1: he can play center. I know this guy can play center,

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Speaker 2: I also adore Zac Frasier. Yeah, the chances he's there

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Speaker 2: for their second round pick, you don't just take that

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Speaker 1: You might have to trade up to do that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At twenty three, the Houston Texas take jerse On.

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Speaker 1: At twenty four, the Cowboys take kool Aid McKinstry, the

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Speaker 2: They can go a lot of different directions. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: would think O line's probably the top of list, though.

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Speaker 1: At twenty five, the Packers take Jordan Morgan, the offensive

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Speaker 2: I'm not blown away by him.

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Speaker 1: I'm not either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it teams a little early.

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Speaker 1: At twenty six, the Bucks take Nate Wiggins, the cornerback

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Speaker 1: at a Clemson.

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Speaker 2: We just talked about how much they have invested in

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Speaker 2: their two corners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe they're they're both getting up there in age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're not young on the heels.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven, the Cardinals take Braylan Trace, he had rusher

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Speaker 1: out of Washington.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they would have Harrison Junior in the first round, okay.

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Speaker 1: At twenty eight, the Bills take Brian Thomas Junior out

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Speaker 1: of LSU. They that would be a home run, Yeah

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Speaker 2: You're right. I mean Davis is probably leaving with discussion

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Speaker 2: about Diggs, you know, forty five minutes ago. It's really worrisome. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you go Kincaid and then Thomas year after year, you

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Speaker 2: might have a pretty good young stable, you know, Phakir

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Speaker 1: At twenty nine, the Lions take enis Rickstraw Junior, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I'd love to see him as Senier Bowl.

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Speaker 2: But I think he's being slept on a little little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think he's definitely in the first round mix.

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Speaker 1: At thirty the Ravens take Darius Robinson, the defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Earlier I thought that he would be a good fit there.

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Speaker 1: And at thirty two, the forty nine Ers take Amarius Mims,

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Speaker 1: But I mean the Lions getting Rake Straws. Yea, these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Corners and tackles and stuff goes early high.

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Speaker 1: At thirty four of the Patriots take Keyon Coleman, the

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Speaker 2: Okay, I could see him falling out around one. I

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Speaker 1: Thirty five, the Cardinals take Kamari Lassiter, the cornerback out

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are gonna add stuff. Yeah, probably a lot of

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Speaker 1: At thirty six, the Commanders take Chris Braswell, the edge

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Speaker 2: Seems a little early for him, but edge is going

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Speaker 1: At thirty seven, the Chargers take TJ. Tampa, the cornerback

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Speaker 1: Uh. Thirty eight the Tennessee Titans take of Donnie Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Texas.

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Speaker 2: They went tackle and then receiver. Yeah, that's the direction

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine the Giants take bow Knicks, the quarterback out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're paying dwn Jones a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be back, but it's kind of like

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Speaker 2: the Jalen Hurts pick ye, Like we're just gonna put

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Speaker 1: At forty the Commanders take Cameron Kinchin's the safety out

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Speaker 2: I haven't done a lot of safety homework. I mean

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Speaker 1: At forty one, the Packers take Tyler Nuban, this safety

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Speaker 1: At forty two, the Vikings take Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 2: That makes all the time if you brought Cousins back, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: At forty three, the Falcons state Kaitlin King, the cornerback

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Speaker 1: At forty four, the Raiders take Troy Fatanu, the offensive

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Speaker 2: That seems late for him too, I mean he's not

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Speaker 2: did Scronsky last year because this group is so good.

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Speaker 2: But that guy's gonna start immediately.

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Speaker 1: So again I look at this draft and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know our team's going to take two offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: with the You know, if you took an offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: Probably not. He could probably not, but it also wouldn't

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Speaker 2: blow my doors off. The Steelers took Mims and Frasier. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like I just got to have them there, I

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Speaker 1: At forty five, the Saints take Jonah Ellis edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: Out of Utah. A little bit of buzz about him,

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Speaker 1: At forty six, the Colts take DJ James cornerback out

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Some of these corners that are the tier two

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Speaker 1: At forty seven, the Giants take Kingsley Sue Mattia, the

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about kicking Neil from right tackle

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Speaker 2: to guard, and the nice thing about that is for them,

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Speaker 2: Michael Schmiz could either be a center or of guard,

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Speaker 2: and Neil probably is better at guard, so they could

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Speaker 2: take advantage of just add one more lineman and then

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At forty eight, the Jaguars take Chop Robinson.

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Speaker 2: The address that makes sense. I mean, gonna franchise Allen,

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Speaker 2: but who knows they'll keep him after that.

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Speaker 1: At forty nine, the Bengals take Jatavian Sanders, the tight

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Speaker 2: They have zero tight ends under contract. Next, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But well they would be if they're taking a second

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Speaker 2: It can run absolutely. I mean he'll probably be the

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Speaker 2: second tight end off the board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At fifty the Eagles take edgern Cooper, linebacker from Texas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to talk about him being pretty clearly

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Speaker 2: the first true linebacker off the board. Would you consider

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Speaker 2: if you haven't touched the position. Yeah, considering, i'd consider

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Speaker 2: it's probably not top. It probably wouldn't win many ties

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Speaker 2: of who's going to be there, but you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, there he goes. So at fifty one he is

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Speaker 1: a Steelers taking Jeremiah Trutter Junior at the linebacker.

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Speaker 2: From similar Yeah. I haven't studied the linebackers to no end.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think their first two picks will

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Speaker 1: Line I don't think so either. Yeah, there'll probably be

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Speaker 1: I have that guy.

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Speaker 2: They ended up taking a center, So I would probably

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Speaker 2: there's a couple here coming up.

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Speaker 1: At fifty two, the Rams take Kaylen Bullock, the safety

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Speaker 1: out of usc Okay. At fifty three, the Eagles take

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Speaker 1: Xavier Loget, the wide receiver from South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, good player, physical.

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Speaker 1: At fifty four, the Browns take this is their first pick,

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Speaker 1: but Xavier Worthy, the wide receiver from Texas.

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Speaker 2: We had an earlier segment of Nita speeds for speeds.

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Speaker 2: He can fly, Yeah, you can fly.

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Speaker 1: At fifty five, the Dolphins take Devondre Sweat, the defensive

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Speaker 2: Would you consider him in around two? I mean you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't ask him. He played a lot of snaps the nose.

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Speaker 1: I hate drifting a nose at it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're center nose.

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Speaker 1: And he's a true like, he's a true nose. He's

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Speaker 1: not going to give you anything, I know, you know

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Speaker 1: on third downs at all.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he's just an intriguing player. I get his physicality,

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Speaker 2: and you know, my answers probably know as well.

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Speaker 1: But you got to I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, O more con as a cap guy probably would

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Speaker 2: go crazy if you went center knows, give me a

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Speaker 2: I have to go buy in the open market.

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Speaker 1: At fifty six, the Cowboys take Zack Fraser.

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Speaker 2: Nice in that Virginia maybe in the second round for

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Speaker 1: So if you knew that Fraser was gonna last to

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Speaker 1: your pick in the second round, does it change the

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Speaker 2: It changes it. I don't know that it means I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't do it though, Yeah, So same question. What pick

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Speaker 2: the Steelers have that fifty or something like.

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Speaker 1: That, fifty fifty maybe fifty one? Yeah, would you trade

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Speaker 1: fifty one for Fraser today? Not knowing anything else, I'd.

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Speaker 2: Probably say yes to.

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Speaker 1: Let's say yes to that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as exciting, but it's pretty darn exciting.

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Speaker 2: And at twenty you're gonna like something, yeah, or you're

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Speaker 2: gonna trade back one of those cornerbacks or tackle or

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Speaker 2: you know, right, or somebody's gonna want your pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: at fifty seven. But that doesn't mean i'd pass on Powers.

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Speaker 2: Johnson know he he'd be there in round two. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I'm not taking them both, That's all

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Speaker 2: I mean. Folks right, like, yeah he could.

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Speaker 1: At fifty seven, the Buccaneers take a Desa Isaac the

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Speaker 2: Take them both, and you know who's gonna snap each

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Speaker 2: time you have a six line.

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Speaker 1: Well, one can play guard, one can play center. Rise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, who went there?

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Speaker 1: Desa Isaac the addresser from Penn State, Yeah, rising up boards.

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Speaker 1: At fifty eight, the Packers take Chris Jenkins, defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: from Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I need to do a little more studying, but he

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Speaker 2: looks like he'd fit in around here in kind of

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Speaker 2: a bent and mold. Yeah, I mean, not quite an

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Speaker 2: old school nos, but could do some things a little

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Speaker 2: lighter than Benton.

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Speaker 1: At fifty nine, the Texans take Ricky pearsall wide receiver

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Speaker 1: from Florida.

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Speaker 2: Good player. I kind of looked them more like an

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Speaker 2: there the playoff teams, you know.

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Speaker 1: At sixty the Bills take Patrick Paul, the offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: from Houston.

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Speaker 2: There are the lines not in terrible shape, though, I

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Speaker 2: mean I think they have a lot of other fish

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Speaker 2: to fry, all those old guys and receivers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At sixty one, the Lions take Malachai Corley, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Reynolds probably won't be back. Can you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could deal with that better than taking a linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I would rather.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Corley. Yeah, I'd rather have pearsall.

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Speaker 2: Really, I'd rather in a linebacker yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh. The Ravens at sixty two take Kayling Carson, the

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Speaker 2: Don't know much about him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty thin, is he?

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Speaker 2: I believe I haven't seen him in the top fifty

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Speaker 1: Uh. At sixty three, the Chiefs take Kieran Am I

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Speaker 1: can't pronounce his name at all, the offensive tackle from Yale.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, that makes sense. They better take a tackle

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Speaker 2: high that end around two DJ from Yale.

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Speaker 1: Yale tackle, Yale tackle. And at sixty three, the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers take Brandon Dorius, edge rusher out

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Speaker 1: of Oregon. Are there only sixty?

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Speaker 2: Say we missing something?

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Speaker 1: Somebody for somebody must have forfeit a pick or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that right, there's only sixty three picks here, though,

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Speaker 1: maybe they haven't dug that far into the draft.

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Speaker 2: No, and say, who's who's missing?

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Speaker 1: They don't have a fourfeited pick here anywhere.

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Speaker 2: So okay, let'll figure out the answer that maybe someone

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Speaker 2: on Twitter will tell us.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to We'll get to that at some point

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Speaker 1: here as we dig farther and farther into the draft.

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Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, that's weird.

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Speaker 1: I I love the first round pick for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I'd rather go Trotter.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather go wide receiver safety, even if they took

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Speaker 1: a tackle there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, me too.

445
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Speaker 1: I'd feel better about that.

446
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Speaker 2: I don't know how much it'd see the fielding around

447
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 2: in Week one, you know. And I don't know enough

448
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,639
Speaker 2: about Trotter, so I might be wrong. His dad is

449
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,240
Speaker 2: kind of well known, dude. I don't think Trotter is

450
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Speaker 2: expected to run great real well, and I think he's

451
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,639
Speaker 2: a little bit more like his day than he is

452
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 2: the modern day linebackers, but top leader, all those things.

453
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 2: It's I think you could use your resources better there.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so as well. And I do think

455
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Speaker 1: that you have to start looking down the road at

456
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Speaker 1: the receiver position because you got guys that are going

457
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Speaker 1: to be up here soon that I mean, you're probably

458
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Speaker 1: gonna cut bait with Alan Robinson.

459
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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think he'll be back. Yeah, but thet's up,

460
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Speaker 2: after the year's up. After this Seas don't want one

461
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Speaker 2: Johnson or Pickens injury to all of a sudden you've

462
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Speaker 2: got nothing.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're running Calvin Austin out there fifty snaps

464
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Speaker 1: a game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we can have much. We will have so

466
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Speaker 2: many more conversations. But my hunch is I don't know

467
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Speaker 2: if the need for receiver went down with the Smith

468
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Speaker 2: hiring because they played so little eleven in Atlanta, or

469
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Speaker 2: do they have terrible receivers.

470
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Speaker 1: That's somebody asked me that today on social media, like

471
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Speaker 1: they need a new third receiver. I said, well, Atlanta

472
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Speaker 1: led the league last year in the least amount of

473
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Speaker 1: eleven personnel. Yeah, but that might also be because they

474
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Speaker 1: don't have any receivers.

475
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Speaker 2: I mean, yea one Foks mac Hollins played a ton

476
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Speaker 2: of snaps for them. He is Miles Boykin. He has

477
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: a big, physical blocking special teamer that on that team

478
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 2: played a ton you know, like I think that they

479
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: do go receiver. He's gonna be able to block and

480
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna have the physicality to him. But I don't

481
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: think they won another Calvin Austin. But I think they're

482
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Speaker 2: not going to be bought in the league. In eleven.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I heard this, they would be top

484
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Speaker 1: like they have been.

485
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Speaker 2: No, I mean it's gonna change, yeah, but I don't

486
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: think they'll be thirty seconds. I heard this crazy stat.

487
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't know the numbers exactly, but I'm really close.

488
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 2: Drop backs out of eleven, not just percentage of on

489
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Speaker 2: the field, but when you're an eleven, you actually drop

490
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Speaker 2: back to throw. They had under one hundred in Atlanta.

491
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Speaker 1: Wow.

492
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Speaker 2: The Niners were next and they had like two hundred

493
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Speaker 2: and thirty. Let alone the teams.

494
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Speaker 1: That you have, Like, okay, I mean we went over

495
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Speaker 1: that roster last week.

496
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Speaker 2: Why would you ever be an eleven?

497
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Speaker 1: You're right, you're to the two receivers you're putting on

498
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Speaker 1: the field in addition to your number one are just

499
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Speaker 1: two dudes. Yeah, I mean it would be like the

500
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Steelers running eleven personnel with their two worst receivers.

501
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Speaker 2: If Pickens and Johnson were her or one of them

502
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: were hurt, yeah, and and Austin was hurt.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it really was that bad.

504
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: And Pitts is as much receiver as tight as right

505
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: that it does change it a little. But here's another thing.

506
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: I did a lot of arts on Smith's homework this weekend.

507
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 2: I know we're up against it, but one stat I

508
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: wanted to throw at you. He never gets his ball

509
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: to the best guys. Did you watch him in Tennessee?

510
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: Henry got the ball every snap and aj Brown got

511
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: the ball every snap, and this past year this will

512
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: blow people away. Team target share, you know, like, okay,

513
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: if you have one hundred targets for Team X, what

514
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: percentage of them go to Deontay? What percentage go to Pickens?

515
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: The only guy that has a higher team target share

516
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: than Drake London is Tyreek Hill and Davante Adams. When

517
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: they threw the ball, they get it to the back

518
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: and throw the ball off. You know, London had a

519
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 2: great year, especially on a per snap basis, and they

520
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: fed him the football over and over. Yeah.

521
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And London's a lot like Pickens. Let's get to

522
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Speaker 1: a break here. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

523
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Speaker 1: That was the two round mock draft on the thirty

524
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Speaker 1: third team. We'll be back with more here on the

525
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Speaker 1: drive right after this welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He

526
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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson and Matt the A lot of

527
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Speaker 1: the coordinator jobs around the league are now starting to

528
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Speaker 1: get filled up here in addition to the Steelers hiring

529
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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith to I'm looking here at a chart that

530
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Speaker 1: Mike Clay puts out.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really cool way of looking at it.

532
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: And he has all the he had the head coaches,

533
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Speaker 1: the play caller, the offensive coordinator and the play offensive

534
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Speaker 1: play caller because those don't always match up. Yeah, then

535
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator and then who the GM? Are not

536
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,239
Speaker 1: many GM openings this year? There were only no, that's

537
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Speaker 1: a good point five, I should say.

538
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: Like Washington's got fed real early, and you know, right.

539
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: So five new gms and has all their tenures on

540
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: there too, like how long they've been with their respective teams,

541
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: and and shows the gaps of spots that still need

542
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: to be filled in seven new head coaches. Yes, I'm

543
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: looking here at the offensive court and there's still two

544
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator jobs that need to be filled.

545
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: Which one of those Chargers?

546
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Speaker 1: You get the Chargers and you got Seattle.

547
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Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, yeah. Yeah, So Harbaugh.

548
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: And Mike McDonald and those are going to be two

549
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: key hirings for those particular teams, no doubt. Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh,

550
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Speaker 1: I should say, now we have to talk about I

551
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: screwed it up. It was an offensive guy.

552
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Speaker 2: He's a quarterback, but it's kind of more of a

553
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: defensive mindset.

554
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a medaler though in the

555
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Speaker 1: terms of the oh.

556
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a schemer or a play caller.

557
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: I know he's not a play caller, but I think

558
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Speaker 2: he medals in everything.

559
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, some of that. But he's not gonna, like

560
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: people all, gonna be one of these head coaches that

561
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Speaker 1: costs place right, like.

562
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Speaker 2: A lot of people talk about it. Was he an

563
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: offensive higher or defensive higher like Campbell with the Lions?

564
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Speaker 2: To me, yes, he was a tight end, but it's

565
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: not an offensive higher. He's a motivator CEO higher. Yeah,

566
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: and I think hardball is the same way.

567
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. He lets Ben Johnson call the place.

568
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the other neat thing about this chart that

570
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: puts out so you get you find which coaches call

571
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Speaker 1: the place a lot of times for some of these

572
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Speaker 1: offensive minds that have come into as head coaches. They

573
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Speaker 1: want to call the place.

574
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Speaker 2: They wan't call the players, right.

575
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Speaker 1: Which I get because that's what got them the job.

576
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Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily the best way to do it

577
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Speaker 1: because there's so much other stuff involved with being a

578
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Speaker 1: head coach, and I think that's a lot of times

579
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Speaker 1: why these guys fail.

580
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Speaker 2: Oh. I think being a great offensive play caller or

581
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: coordinator doesn't make you qualify to be a great head coach. Yeah,

582
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: or defensive for that matter, or special teams for that matter,

583
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: not even close. I mean, skill set is much different.

584
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: What is asked of you is much different, and often

585
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Speaker 2: what you do best to get there is taken off

586
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: your plate. Yeah right, you know, like you have enough

587
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Speaker 2: time in the day to scheme up offenses all week

588
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: because you got to talk to media and do I

589
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: mean a thousand different head coaches stuff.

590
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Speaker 1: So unless you're Andy Reid and you just have a

591
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, you just say, okay, you got that. The

592
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: beauty of it, right, you got that?

593
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean like that when McVeigh got hired, they gave

594
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: it to an.

595
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: Older older Just you take that side of the ball.

596
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Speaker 2: I'm young and I'm here to call plays. So there's

597
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Speaker 2: a couple of trends in coaching that I find interesting

598
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: that I think are starting to pop up heavy this offseason.

599
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: Is I think people are running out of college. I

600
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: don't think anybody, you know, like Halfley leaves Boston College

601
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: to be a defensive coordinator might be taking a pay

602
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: cut if you're if you're a place like Boston College,

603
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: you can't compete with the end. You can't do it right.

604
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a wild while West. I don't think

605
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Speaker 2: anybody wants I mean, I think that's why Saban hung

606
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Speaker 2: it up even I mean, you're the top, You're recruiting

607
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: all year around. You know, you're watching kids TikTok videos,

608
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: and I mean you're not doing nearly as much.

609
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Speaker 1: And then you know you developed the kid and Team

610
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: X swoops in and yeah, that was one of the

611
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: things I've read about the Quinyan, the Toledo kid Williams.

612
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: They were surprised that he ate at Toledo. Yeah that's it.

613
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: When you Mitchell, they were surprised he stayed at Toledo

614
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: because he had big money offers in the offseason, yeah

615
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: to go join Yeah, it's and they said no, and

616
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: That's one of the things that I think that I

617
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: heard anyways, and the NFL teams liked about him, was

618
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: that he was loyal to Toledo.

619
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think there's a couple examples of guys

620
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: that went stayed at small schools because hey, I committed

621
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 2: and my word is my bond and all that, and hey,

622
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: I was in recruiting for three years, and it really

623
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: hurts when you come in second on a kid that

624
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: you spend a lot of time on. But if you

625
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: add actually get him, he comes to campus and does

626
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: well and then he walks away like I'm done with this.

627
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: But people are leaving the NCAA quickly because that's becoming

628
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: a mess. To be honest with you, it really is.

629
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Speaker 2: Even that being said, another trend is there's still too

630
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Speaker 2: much of a demand for top offensive coordinators play callers.

631
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Speaker 2: Then there is viable candidates. To me, I mean, some

632
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: of these dudes are reaching on quarterback coach that kind

633
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: of know Shanahan, you know what I mean. And I

634
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: know people were really critical that the Steelers brought back

635
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: mac Canada a year ago, but I can't say this

636
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: enough and it didn't prove to be the right answer.

637
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: But last offseason, half of the offensive play callers changed.

638
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean sixteen play callers changed at this time last year,

639
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: fifteen this year, fifteen this year. I'm sure there's some overlap,

640
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: but two many jobs were opening up, you know, like,

641
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: are there really sixteen new play caller fifteen new play

642
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: callers that are worthy of it, or they all get

643
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: five of them and to get replaced on.

644
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: That's one of the things we're seeing here now. And

645
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: of course this is kind of what the Steelers have done.

646
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are getting like they got

647
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: fired in one spot.

648
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: Like Dorsey got hired by the Browns.

649
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: But today right right, you know Alex van Pelt who

650
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: got fired by the Browns, Well now he's with New

651
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: England like these yeah.

652
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: I hired today, Yeah, right exactly. So so that's those

653
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: are two trends I've noticed in this coaching cycle. And

654
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: another one I think is kind of brewing is I

655
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: think owners, and this goes for Houston and Detroit this

656
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: past season because those coordinators are super hot and I'm

657
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: convinced Johnson, the coordinator for the Lions, could have had

658
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: a head job for sure. But if you're the owner

659
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 2: of any of these teams. There's no salary cap on

660
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: your coaching staff. If you have a solid head coach Campbell, Tomlin,

661
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: Ryan's whoever, and you do have the hot young coordinator,

662
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: why don't you say, how about I give you a

663
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: two million dollar raise? Now you know what I mean,

664
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: just stay here, we're winning, we love you. Or you

665
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: could go be the Washington or Carolina head coach. And

666
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: I understand if you take it, because there's only thirty

667
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: two of them and we've all been down that. And

668
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: whoever your head coach was, Tomlin one day, you know,

669
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: decided that I'm gonna be one of those thirty two.

670
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: But your chances of success are way less. I'm gonna

671
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: pay you much more than most coordinators make. And let's wain.

672
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's going to be a common thing.

673
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: So let's look here at some of these. Uh. I

674
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: wanted to go through this and go with the offensive

675
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: coordinator and who is the play caller? Because I think

676
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: that's someway's hard.

677
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: To keep up with because it's been fifteen and sixteen

678
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: new ones over the last two years.

679
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Both teams that are in the Super Bowl. Okay, is

680
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: the head the head coach also is a play caller.

681
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about San Francisco is that Shanahan's also

682
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. He doesn't have anybody on his staff

683
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: who's listed as an offensive coordinator. It's him, and he

684
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: calls the plays.

685
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: Which is weird to me because I would think if

686
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: there's Kobiak's coming off their staff, right, yeah, and he's

687
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: gonna become the Sat Saints oator. But if you would

688
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: have called him the offensive coordinator, they couldn't have stole

689
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: him from you, right? Why not just call somebody the

690
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and don't let them call plays.

691
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the logic is.

692
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: They didn't want to pay him, you know that kind

693
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: of Yeah?

694
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Uh, So Red is not

695
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: the offense coordinator?

696
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Noah? Right? Yeah. In Arizona, Jonathan Ganna is the head coach.

697
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: He's a defensive guy. He's got Drew Petsing as his

698
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Nobody could pick Drew Pexing out of lineup.

699
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: Didn't even though he was about to ask a dumb question,

700
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: is this his first or second year?

701
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: Uh? He's ed in twenty twenty three with.

702
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Gannon, So this will be his second year. Yeah.

703
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: In Atlanta, Raheem Morris brought he brought in Zach Robinson.

704
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Zach Robinson is the play caller. Another new one, right, John,

705
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm excited about Zach Robinson.

706
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: I was kind of rooting for him here.

707
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: You know, Harbaugh's got Todd Monkin. He's both the coordinator

708
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: and the play caller. Second year Joe Brady calls plays

709
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: in Buffalo for McDermott.

710
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Brad.

711
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Isaac is the new offensive coordinator in UH Carolina. But

712
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: Canalis is going to call the place.

713
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know who Isaac is, but I thought

714
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: Canalys was going to stick on, which is a big

715
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: job for him.

716
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

717
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean he did. One thing I didn't realize is

718
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: when he was in Seattle, he did a lot of

719
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: head coach stuff for and with Pete Carroll, you know,

720
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: so he learned some of the He was kind of

721
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: like this right hand man.

722
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: In Chicago. Iber Flus is the head coach. Yes, Shane

723
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: Waldron is the play caller, an offensive coordinator.

724
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: I don't know anything good or bad to say about Waldron,

725
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: but he's one of these guys here's kind of shuffling.

726
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: Right y.

727
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, around and Dal.

728
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Gets you somewhere else Seattle, And in Cincinnati, Dan Pletcher

729
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: steps up as the offensive coordinator. He was the quarterbacks coach.

730
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor still calling the place. Yeah yeah, Yeah. Cleveland

731
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: just hired Ken Dorsey, but Kevin Stefanski still calls the

732
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: places there. Yes, So I don't know how you get

733
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: fired his offensive coordinator if you're not calling.

734
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: The place their whole, I mean, if you're doing a

735
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: good job or a bad job. I just think it's

736
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: on impatient ownership. Yeah, somebody. You guys had a pretty

737
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: good year in Cleveland. It's for four or five quarterbacks playing,

738
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: and it sounds like they had to fire the offensive staff.

739
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Uh. In Dallas, Mike McCarthy is the head coach. Brian Schottenheimer,

740
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: who's been he's coordinated for like four different teams now

741
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: is the coordinator. But McCarthy's calling the place.

742
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's all what it used to be, right, Yes,

743
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: they all ran that back from last year. Yeah.

744
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Sean Payton has Joe Lombardi as his offense coordinator. Another retread,

745
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: but Peyton calls the place.

746
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just running back Saints. Yeah for the West.

747
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: Now, Ben Johnson calls him for Dan Campbell. In Detroit,

748
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur has and Adam Stenovich as his coordinator, but

749
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: he still calls the place.

750
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: Okay, that's worked.

751
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: DeMeco Ryans has Bobby Slowick and he does both. Shane

752
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: Steiken in Indianapolis has Jim Bob Cooter, another one of

753
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: those guys who's bounced out as a coordinator. But Shane

754
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: Stikeen calls the place.

755
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: Okay, woulday, I don't think there's any changes there.

756
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson has Press Taylor, and Press Taylor calls the place, okay.

757
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: M Andy Reid has Matt Naggy, but Andy Reid calls

758
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: the place hard boss still has an opening there. Sean

759
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: McVay has Mike Lafleur as his offensive coordinator, but McVeigh.

760
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Calls, I don't know if you know this, but was

761
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 2: Lafleur the o C last year because Robinson was not?

762
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: Robinson was the quarterbacks coach? Yeah, Lafleur was the OC.

763
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah?

764
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Uh. Antonio Pierce Pierce just hired Luke Getzi again. Another retread.

765
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: He's getting for me. He's going to call the place

766
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: in Miami. Mike McDaniel has Frank Smith as his offensive coordinator,

767
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: but he calls the plays. In Minnesota, Kevin O'Connell is

768
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: the head coach, Wes Phillips the coordinator. O'Connell calls the place.

769
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: Some of these ocs that don't call plays are pretty nondescript.

770
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: Uh. In New England, Jeremo just hired Alex van Pelt.

771
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Alex van Pelt will call the plays. New Orleans, it's

772
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak and yet yeah, he'll call the plays. Uh.

773
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: It with the Giants, it's Mike Coffka, and Mike Coffka

774
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: calls the play, which is kind of interesting. Dave Ball

775
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: was doing it.

776
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

777
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: Up.

778
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: I think they switched back and forth at least once

779
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: or twice or the course of the season when things

780
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: were going bad. And I think Dave Ball was very

781
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: unselfish about it, like the time for you his coat

782
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: concentrate on head coaching, you know, and k is gonna

783
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: good reputation.

784
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still looking for a defensive coordinator. So yeah,

785
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: so winks out. Yeah yeah he resigned was Uh. With

786
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: the Jets, it's Robert Sala as the head coach. Nathaniel

787
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: Hackett is the coordinator and calls the plays when Aaron

788
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: Rodgers runs the show. Uh, Nick Sirianni just hired Kellum Moore.

789
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: He must have pictures of somebody KELLM Moore. I don't

790
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: get it. I don't get it at all.

791
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: His reputation is better than his results.

792
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: I think it's because all the Dallas guys go on

793
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: the game day broadcast the and they talk about it, Yeah,

794
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: talk about him like he's like he's a genius. And

795
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I just don't see it.

796
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: Dallas's offense got noticeably better real left. Yeah, And I

797
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: mean the Eagles have played against him twice a year

798
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: for quite a while, you know, before the season. I

799
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: mean maybe. I mean, I don't claim to be an

800
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: excellent I was super genius, but I haven't been super

801
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: impressed with him.

802
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: No, I haven't either. Seattle has to hire everybody. Basically,

803
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: it's not a great time to be doing that, No,

804
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: I mean to you and talking about everybody being gone here.

805
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Shanahan does it all in San Francisco. He's the only coaches.

806
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: They don't have an offense coordinator.

807
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: I don't even have a coordinator in Tampa Bay Todd Bowl,

808
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: says Liam Cohen, and he will also.

809
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: Call the place he lost his gay right.

810
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: Uh. In Tennessee, Callahan brought in Nick Holtz. But Callahan

811
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: is going to call the place even though he's never

812
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: done it. That's the interesting thing about that hire.

813
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's very cool you're bringing dad along, And

814
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: I bet that I think that was in the mix

815
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: honestly before the hiring, Like, I'm sure the Tennessee owner

816
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: called the brown Z owner and be like, hey, I'm

817
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: really think about grabbing one of your coach's son.

818
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Will you let him go?

819
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to lose my ocy. I mean, boy,

820
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: the other owners would really frown upon me not letting

821
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: Dad coach with son. So I think that's one of

822
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: the advance there. But you're bringing a first time head

823
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: coach and a first time play caller with a second

824
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: year quarterback, Like there's so much room for air in Tennessee.

825
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: And the first time defensive coordinator and.

826
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: You know, the whole DA in the GM. I think

827
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: it's might have been two years. Yeah, I'm like, nobody's

828
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: done it.

829
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: And then Washington dan Quinn brought in Cliff Kingsbury, who

830
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: turned down the Raiders at the last man. Yeah, they're

831
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: one of the few. They're one of the teams. There

832
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: are a couple of teams on here that have got

833
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: everybody's new Oh yeah, okay, Washington, Yeah, Washington as Joe

834
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Whitt now as the defensive coordinator in Adam Peters is

835
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: the GM you also have, Well, I guess they're saying

836
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: New England has I guess a new GM is really yeah,

837
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: because I guess Bill was. But they got two of them.

838
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: Really it's but it's Mayo with Van Pelt, DeMarcus Covington

839
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: and then Matt grow Elliott Wolf.

840
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: But there is a little continuity there, Yeah, a little bit,

841
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: a little bit.

842
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, our bolls gonna have like this interrupted.

843
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: What's funny to me though, too, is New England and

844
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: Washington are gonna have rookie quarterbacks probably too. Yeah, like

845
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: the guys that have not done their job at this

846
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: level at all.

847
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Chargers are going to be in that same

848
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: boat when they finished hiring everybody because they had a

849
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: new GM and then the only other team, uh Vero

850
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: is still the defensive in but they hired Dan Morgan.

851
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: Is there?

852
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: Okay, new GM real quick? Can you do me one favor? Yes?

853
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: Play callers. How many have been there three years or longer.

854
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: I bet it's an unbelievably low number. Three years or longer.

855
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: So you got Zach Taylor if that's one.

856
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: Typically the head coaches all Andy Reid, Kevin Stefanski, Matt Lafleur, Okay,

857
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, yeah, Sean McVay.

858
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's five. Shannan's coming up, and Shannan that's it.

859
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: They're all head coaches, all the head coaches, and there's

860
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: only six, and there's only six that this will be there.

861
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: This will be their third season, right, Wow, that's crazy.

862
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Six teams have the same play caller three

863
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: years in a row, and they're all big time head

864
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: coaches basically.

865
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys. When people talk about

866
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, they just went out and got a guy

867
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: that did it before. That's what everybody's doing.

868
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: He's been calling plays for five years in a row

869
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: at least, right least. I mean, that's a long stretch

870
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: in this league. So everybody wants one of those six. Well,

871
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: it's only six, it's only six. Yeah, I mean they're

872
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: gonna keep hiring all these ocs that are whiz kids

873
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 2: to lead the team and be the OC. There's only

874
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: six and Reed's been doing it forever, you know, Peyton's

875
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: been doing I guess Peyton's on that list. He will

876
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: be a year from now because he's not been there

877
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: two years. Yeah, right, But it's few and far between,

878
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: and a lot of them are like Hall of Famer types.

879
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of teams just blowing it up

880
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: every couple of years, just searching for that guy.

881
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: There aren't many around the world.

882
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: There really aren't. I mean, put like Nathaniel Hackett was

883
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: a failed head coach, Like we talked, failed failed head coach.

884
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: He's a disaster in his one season in Denver. He

885
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: immediately gets another job with the Jets.

886
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all Aaron Rodgers though. I don't

887
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: know if any other team would have hired him, but

888
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: he was like the worst head coach we've seen.

889
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just historically.

890
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, his first season, Russell Wilson's first year there, Yeah,

891
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: really brutal. So I'm that whole offensive play callar thing

892
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: is pretty interesting.

893
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to take

894
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: out of it. I don't know if there's a correct

895
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: way to do it.

896
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the whole league's trying to figure that

897
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: out what is the best path brings back to Arthur Smith.

898
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: Though Arthur Smith, though he would have to I don't

899
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: think there's I'm not saying anthing bad about the guy,

900
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 2: but I can't imagine a reality one year from now

901
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: that he's a new head coach for another team. Again,

902
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 2: I mean, Pickkett would have to be like the best quarterback.

903
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: In the league.

904
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: It would make a big jump, I mean a crazy

905
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: big jump. So you might have him as long as

906
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: you want them, you know what I mean.

907
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: Like I could see in a couple of years, maybe

908
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, if the offense looks you know, consider you

909
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: make a couple of Monkin didn't get a head coaching job.

910
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Smith this year ends up being really good play caller,

911
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: especially on defensive side of the ball. Those bags of

912
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: the world and those type of dudes.

913
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 2: But maybe Arthur Smith is your spagnolo on the offensive side,

914
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: just like I mean, you got.

915
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm just looking here at the former head coaches on

916
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Speaker 1: this list, and you got there's a lot of it.

917
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: Like the Lafloors that don't that had a very unremarkable run.

918
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm just like guys who were Laflour is still a

919
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: head coach Matt Leafloor wasn't a head coach.

920
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: I was talking about the Jets La Floor that we

921
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: just talked about that.

922
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: Or Mike Laflo I should say there's three of them.

923
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get them all confused. The one that was

924
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: Denver's head coach.

925
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: You got Hackett. Offensive play coach guys, Yeah, guys who

926
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: have been head coaches. You got Kingsbury, now you got Hackett,

927
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: and you got Smith Smith and that's it. Wow, And

928
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: that's the job. They got those jobs because they were

929
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 1: good play calls.

930
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: How good they did. Yeah, interesting, maybe that's a move.

931
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, defensive side of things. Let me look here. Jim Schwartz, Vance,

932
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Joseph Aaron Glenn Gus Bradley spack Nola wasn't ever head coach.

933
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: With very very brief It was a long time ago. Yeah,

934
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: it didn't work out.

935
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, Yeah, there's.

936
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Any more of those.

937
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, Yeah, Steve Wilkes interim, he's done it a

938
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: couple of times. Maybe I know he was right, But

939
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot more of those guys who are defensive

940
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: guys who get recycled than the offensive guys.

941
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's it's just weird times with coaching cycles.

942
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of trends that we can

943
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 2: look back on and again, I think the college guys

944
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: are going to start confusing in the league even more

945
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: than they used to that good or bad. I mean

946
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: it's a much different game.

947
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, for sure. Let's get through a break.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening

949
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

950
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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie, and you're

958
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. I

959
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: just thought we'd run around the AFC North here. Some

960
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: news and notes. You mentioned. The Browns announced their hiring

961
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: of Ken Dorsey today as their new offensive coordinator. He

962
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: was a hot name change a couple of years ago.

963
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: Then he got fired midway through the season. Again, another

964
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: one of those guys a getting getting recycled.

965
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, he didn't have a bad reputation

966
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: before he got let go. I think some of that

967
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: was just to shake things up. But the Bill's offense

968
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: and team got noticeably better with Brady. I mean, I

969
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: don't know if it's directly correlated or not, but it

970
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: doesn't vode super well for Dorsey. He's not gonna gold plays.

971
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: I think losing their own line coach is the biggest

972
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: thing that happened. Like they gutted their offensive staff but

973
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: wanted to keep Callahan and he left.

974
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah uh. They also hired tight ends coach past game

975
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: specialist Tommy Reese. You don't see often see the tight

976
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: end coach be the pass game Yeah right, specialist.

977
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: That's usually coom an entry level, you know, not bottom

978
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 2: of the barrel. And tight end coach in the NFL

979
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: is a big deal, but usually they're not the pass

980
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: game specialist.

981
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah uh. Jacques Cesaire is announced as their defensive line coach,

982
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: and Douce Staley a new running back coach.

983
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: Did the Cleveland brown I know he was with the Lions.

984
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Did he go to the Panthers last year? I believe

985
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: I think so, And that all fizzled out obviously. Yeah.

986
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Uh the Baltimore Ravens bringing back Jerry Roseberg Rosberg, I

987
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: should say, uh, he is there. He's been hired as

988
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: their game management coach.

989
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Really, he was our special teams coach when I was

990
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: with the Browns a million years ago and one of

991
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: the best coaches on staff. I thought he retired in

992
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, said it was in the league. He came

993
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: back the Denver Broncos brought him in midway through the

994
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: season last year. Ok, to help Nathaniel Hackett. Oh, whenever

995
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: that that train will happened. Game management, game management. I

996
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: mean he was always super smart. I mean I don't

997
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: know him super well. I haven't kept up with him

998
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 2: for twenty years, but I mean that was Ben's rookie year.

999
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: But still that's kind of interesting. And say we want

1000
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: about the Ravens. They're at the forefront in terms of

1001
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: hiring coaches for analytics and things that aren't coaching.

1002
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I don't know that Jerry Rosberg is

1003
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: coming in to help with analytics.

1004
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: I know. I'm just saying that the way they hire

1005
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: is different than other teams. Yeah, they hired some people

1006
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: in the media a couple of years ago for their

1007
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: analytics team. Yeah, go get Jerry just to do game management.

1008
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: You know, like that's pretty cool. Yeah, as you listened

1009
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: to him, I.

1010
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Mean, he's like seventy years old now, so he's bad. Yeah,

1011
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: he's just there to say, Jim John take a take

1012
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: a time out here.

1013
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: And I always wonder about that. I mean, the heat

1014
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: of the moment on Saturday or Sunday at three point

1015
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: thirty afternoon, does the coach say, blow it out your

1016
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, like I know what I'm doing.

1017
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: You're up at the booth. I'm here on the side.

1018
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they have to have a pretty good relationship.

1019
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: But he's really well respected. Yeah, he's I mean he's

1020
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: they've coached together before he was he was a longtime

1021
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: Ravens assistance. I don't think you want a twenty two

1022
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: year old kid telling Tomlin or Harbor that's gonna be yeah.

1023
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1024
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: Uh. And finally, Jerry Dulac of The Post, is that

1025
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: reporting this isn't a real surprise here that Frisman Jackson

1026
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: will not return for the Steelers this year, the wide

1027
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: receivers coach. So the Steelers are looking for a new

1028
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers coach.

1029
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: He was one of our leading receivers of the ears with

1030
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: the Browns.

1031
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: So how about that situation where anybody associated. I did

1032
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: see somebody was talking to Ben McAdoo. Really your formerga together, Yeah,

1033
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: way back when dude, hard worker, crazy hardworker? Who was

1034
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: I saw that earlier today that somebody wanted to bring

1035
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: in mc adoo for an interview.

1036
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting might be the Patriots. You wouldn't have any

1037
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: inclination on the Steelers wide receiver coach of the future

1038
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: and anything like that.

1039
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I would think they're looking for

1040
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: somebody who's a little more, a little older.

1041
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: Okay, young room.

1042
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: It's a young room. I think you need somebody who's

1043
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: a voice in the room that that they're gonna you know,

1044
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: that's the one thing you know when you look at

1045
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: that's what they have with Darryl Drake, That's what they

1046
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: had with Richard Mann. And those guys were respected and

1047
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: sure they'd been around.

1048
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: I think hey were bay presented a lot of that too. Yeah,

1049
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: you know, and I don't know that there'll be in

1050
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: the market for another thirty five year old, thirty four

1051
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: year old receiver. It probably wont a draft one. Yeah,

1052
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1053
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would think it would be somebody who

1054
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: was who's going to command that room a little bit

1055
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: more and the respect and and okay he's been oh

1056
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: you that was one of the things like you know,

1057
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: those guys would talk about with with uh some of

1058
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: the older coaches like oh, he coached Larry Fitzgerald. You know,

1059
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: things like that goes a long long way. I remember

1060
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: Larry's rookie year and yeah, like oh, okay when I

1061
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: had Keishawan. Yeah, yeah, they don't have to ask you

1062
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: for talking.

1063
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: About And I wonder if Arthur Smith, as a guy

1064
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: he likes or who knows, I'm sure of some contribution

1065
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: to it.

1066
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, But that's going to do it for our

1067
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: show today, Matt good one. Yeah, absolutely, it was a

1068
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: lot of fun. We'll be back at it again tomorrow.

1069
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: Will be still five days a week through the end

1070
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: of this week, and then after the Super Bowl we'll

1071
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: cut it back to Monday, Wednesday, Friday, but then the

1072
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: combine then we get right to the Combine. We have

1073
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: a full week of shows at the Combine and then

1074
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, so we only have a few select weeks

1075
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: during yeah, during the season where we only go three

1076
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: days a week most of the time too, which is fine.

1077
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: And once in a while we go on vacation. That happens. Yeah,

1078
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: not for a while. Yeah, not together, but it just

1079
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: seems like we spend all that time together. Anyways, that's

1080
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: going to do it for our show today. So for

1081
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site

1082
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lelly. We thank

1083
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of The Drive on

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Speaker 1: Steeler's Nation Radio.