Speaker 1: What's that append it's spooky, Hey Joky, I'm really sure
Speaker 1: it's dead.
Speaker 2: It's coming this way.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I ghosted.
Speaker 2: As nandas.
Speaker 1: Please Hey boom, it's me Ross and welcome to Ghosted.
Speaker 1: Bira's Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that
Speaker 1: I like about the paranormal. My friend Monet Exchange is
Speaker 1: finally on the podcast.
Speaker 2: You know these these.
Speaker 1: Famous drag queens, they are hard to pin down. They're
Speaker 1: always traveling all over the world doing all kinds of
Speaker 1: amazing work. And we got so because we got to
Speaker 1: have Bob what was that two weeks ago?
Speaker 2: And now we got money.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to even more drag queens about getting them
Speaker 1: in here.
Speaker 2: It's a good.
Speaker 1: Time to be listening to Ghosted. That actually reminds me.
Speaker 1: I started a ghost story two weeks ago with Bob
Speaker 1: the drag Queen's episode that was sent to me by
Speaker 1: a listener named Will. And this was a great story,
Speaker 1: but it's a long one, so I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: finish it, And then last week I didn't have time
Speaker 1: to conclude this story. So let's do that now. So
Speaker 1: let's go back to Will's story here and just a reminder.
Speaker 1: This was Will talking about their family home that has
Speaker 1: been in the family for one hundred and fifty years
Speaker 1: in England, and they've seen an older woman and now
Speaker 1: we pick up from there. Will writes the next spirit
Speaker 1: was one who appeared once my family had moved into
Speaker 1: the cottage. When we swapped houses with my grandparents.
Speaker 2: Me, my mom, dad, and.
Speaker 1: Older brother all started to experience poulter Geist activity around
Speaker 1: the home, though it was always a little more focused
Speaker 1: around me, especially around the time I was going through puberty.
Speaker 1: Doors would open and close around the house and things
Speaker 1: would move about by themselves. It happened so often that
Speaker 1: we named the poultergeist George and would just say things
Speaker 1: like George is up to his old tricks again when
Speaker 1: a door would open whilst we were watching TV.
Speaker 2: For several years, George.
Speaker 1: Would just be up back ground presence in the house
Speaker 1: that we all sort of acknowledged but didn't pay much
Speaker 1: mind to. On two occasions, though, he really scared me
Speaker 1: both times with activity in my bedroom. One time I
Speaker 1: was lying on my bed playing video games and all
Speaker 1: at once, every single poster on my wall and there
Speaker 1: were a lot, fell off the wall at the exact
Speaker 1: same time. Another time, I was in my room and
Speaker 1: my wardrobe doors were open. Within the wardrobe were built
Speaker 1: in cubby holes that were crammed full of folded T
Speaker 1: shirts and jumpers. I was sat at my desk and
Speaker 1: heard a noise from the wardrobe. I looked over at
Speaker 1: the wardrobe, and suddenly every item within each cubby hole
Speaker 1: shot out onto the floor, like they were pushed from behind.
Speaker 1: This scared the crap out of me the most. As
Speaker 1: with the posters, I had tried to excuse it as
Speaker 1: a freak burst of wind, even though my window was
Speaker 1: closed and I didn't feel any wind. But there was
Speaker 1: no rational explanation for how all these clothes suddenly flew
Speaker 1: out at once. As I got older, George made his
Speaker 1: presence known less and less, and according to my mom,
Speaker 1: who still lives in the house, there hasn't been any
Speaker 1: activity from him in years.
Speaker 2: I realize I have rambled on for ages. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: So I'll wrap it up shortly. There were just two
Speaker 1: other spirits I encountered whilst I lived there. One was
Speaker 1: playing bizarre and one was actually terrifying. The first was
Speaker 1: one that I saw in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1: I needed to grab something from my mom and dad's room.
Speaker 1: Walked into the room and saw very clearly this strange
Speaker 1: presence that is hard to describe in the middle of
Speaker 1: their bed, seemingly going through It was a column of
Speaker 1: bright light that got brighter towards the center of it,
Speaker 1: floating around the central light where orbs of various sizes,
Speaker 1: almost like a mockup of a solar system. I stood
Speaker 1: shocked looking at it for a few seconds, and then
Speaker 1: it disappeared. I wasn't scared, more confused and filled with wonder.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what it was, whether it was
Speaker 1: an entity or something else, but I saw it so clearly.
Speaker 1: I've seen people talk about orbs and photos, usually specks
Speaker 1: of dust on a lens, but this was something I
Speaker 1: saw in person. The second was something that fully filled.
Speaker 2: Me with fear. Ooh, give it to me.
Speaker 1: I had woken up in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: and neeted the bathroom. I got up and didn't turn
Speaker 1: on the landing lights, as I didn't want to disturb
Speaker 1: my family. Our upstairs bathroom was quite narrow, and as
Speaker 1: it's an old cottage, the door to the bathroom was
Speaker 1: at an angle so that you couldn't see fully into
Speaker 1: the room from the doorway. As I approached the door,
Speaker 1: still with no lights on, I saw a very large
Speaker 1: black shape move across what I could see of the room.
Speaker 1: I quietly said hello, half asleep, thinking it might be
Speaker 1: a family member. Then I turned on the bathroom light
Speaker 1: and looked around the corner, and there was no one there.
Speaker 1: It would actually have been impossible for someone to move
Speaker 1: the way I saw. The bath filled the space the
Speaker 1: shadow moved to. I was suddenly hit by a wave
Speaker 1: of fear. My skin got goosebumps, and I just innately
Speaker 1: knew that whatever it was that had been there was
Speaker 1: a malevolent spirit. I can't really explain how I knew,
Speaker 1: it just felt instinctive. I quickly ran to my room
Speaker 1: and got under the covers. Of all the various spirits
Speaker 1: or encounters that I ever came across in that house,
Speaker 1: that was the only one that I felt was harmful.
Speaker 2: And that's about it. Who two episodes later, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm just getting I've had so many haunted experiences in
Speaker 1: my life in various locations. I think England is just
Speaker 1: a pretty haunted place, but I won't go on about them.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Feel free to use any of these stories for your
Speaker 1: podcast if you'd like to.
Speaker 2: I did like to.
Speaker 1: Well, those are very good stories. I wonder who all
Speaker 1: these ghosts? Sorry, are they family members? Who are these things?
Speaker 1: Is that your old aunt orby the orb lady? Is
Speaker 1: that your great uncle dark shape in the corner.
Speaker 2: It's spooky.
Speaker 1: Who knows how any of this happens, but I love
Speaker 1: to hear about it. Okay, here is my conversation with
Speaker 1: drag Icon money Exchange on with the show. I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. Money Exchange is here.
Speaker 2: Hi, hello girl, Hey girl money.
Speaker 1: Are you one of those kinds of people that goes, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just a coincidence or do you go, oh, it
Speaker 1: means something like different stuff in life?
Speaker 3: Girl, I'm a coincidence. I don't. I don't think everything
Speaker 3: has a meaning. I'm not like, oh my god, no,
Speaker 3: I don't prescribe.
Speaker 4: But to the belief that everything has a meaning and
Speaker 4: everything has a thing, I just kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a big I do believe in energies, and maybe
Speaker 4: sometimes those energies that have been here before and we'll
Speaker 4: be here after can influencer things. But not like you know,
Speaker 4: if I didn't get in my car and I to
Speaker 4: go to the target, not target, Sorry.
Speaker 2: You go to targets.
Speaker 3: I go to the local Ralphs. If I didn't get in.
Speaker 1: There, Dally, I don't know about it's hard to know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't prescribe to that.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what happened to me when exchange
Speaker 1: tell me, I land in a plane, get my car.
Speaker 1: They dropped me off at this hotel in Portland. I
Speaker 1: get out of the car, walking into my hotel, I
Speaker 1: see you, and then you told me, oh, I'm here
Speaker 1: the entire time that you're here. And so then for
Speaker 1: the three days or however long it was, you were
Speaker 1: there and the same floor as me of this.
Speaker 3: Hotel, fucking my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put that part in there, but
Speaker 1: that was happening.
Speaker 2: That. That's one thing that wasn't in common or a coincidence.
Speaker 2: I did not do that.
Speaker 1: But then then it's time to leave. I go to
Speaker 1: the airport. I'm on the same plane as you back.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: Come on, that's something, I mean, is it something? Though?
Speaker 1: It's very strange because it's not like, oh, we were
Speaker 1: all staying at that one hotel in the city where
Speaker 1: everyone goes because it's one there's one big comedy festival happening,
Speaker 1: so everyone's staying like it wasn't like that. It was
Speaker 1: just like a random weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I mean, okay, so it was if
Speaker 4: it was a reason, what was the reason.
Speaker 1: So that we could bond and strengthen our friendship. We
Speaker 1: had not spent that much time together. We ended up
Speaker 1: going to a drag brunch.
Speaker 2: We went to a strip club.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the lovely dancers at that place, because
Speaker 1: I felt very famous. They knew my work, actually with
Speaker 1: my ghost work. So I'm not sure if those lovely gentlemen,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they are listening to this, But
Speaker 1: I'll be back.
Speaker 2: Babies, I'll be back.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we should talk about ghosts, you know. Well, actually
Speaker 1: I did. I investigated a haunted shrip club one time,
Speaker 1: so ghosts can be anywhere.
Speaker 4: Well, when I think about ghosts, Supers, I think about
Speaker 4: the movie Scary Movie too, when she has that affair
Speaker 4: with that ghost. That's to me, that's one of the
Speaker 4: hottest scenes in film.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about when Tory Spelling has sex with
Speaker 1: the ghost?
Speaker 3: Uh? Huh.
Speaker 4: And he's like kid taking all over the ceiling, all
Speaker 4: over the walls. I was like, that was fucking hot.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: And there's people that'll tell you that that really does happen.
Speaker 4: I know, I girl, I've seen the the A and
Speaker 4: E shows. I've been fucked by ghosts. I cannot believe.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a show on a andy cult
Speaker 1: I've been fucked by a ghost.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's not fun, but it's like I've had sex
Speaker 3: with the ghosts. It's real. It's a real show that exists.
Speaker 4: Girl, people who have been who have had penetrave sex
Speaker 4: with a spirit.
Speaker 2: Is that what the show is called?
Speaker 1: Wait a second, we've definitely talked about ghosts sex and
Speaker 1: all the celebrities that have reported having sex with ghosts.
Speaker 2: What is it called. I'm not seen anything. I typed
Speaker 2: a ghost sex show.
Speaker 3: And nothing came up. No, it was a parody of
Speaker 3: what I saw.
Speaker 1: I've been fucked by a ghost? Now do you think
Speaker 1: that that could be a good? Like a prequel to
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was pregnant.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 4: I think that were If you didn't know you were pregnant, problem,
Speaker 4: most likely a ghost impregnated.
Speaker 1: You that could be. Well, that sounds like a great
Speaker 1: idea for a show, because I'm honestly, I'm very into it,
Speaker 1: and I've talked to several people that have told me
Speaker 1: their experiences of having sex with a ghost, and.
Speaker 2: Really it sounds great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, from the stories I have heard, they sound great.
Speaker 1: But there's also stories of like, you know, the ghost
Speaker 1: is basically just assaulting them from you know, and it's
Speaker 1: not cute. But I've heard several stories where they're like,
Speaker 1: that was the best other world Kasha, that's one person
Speaker 1: that ka E Dollar Sign h A had sex with
Speaker 1: a ghost and she wrote a song about it called Supernatural.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'll list to the celebrities is also
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown, Millie Bobby Brown, Nope, the original Bobby Brown
Speaker 1: had sex with a ghost. Anna, Nicole Smith, Lucy Lou. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm like off book. I have all these memorized because
Speaker 1: I've talked about this so much in my lifetime. Any
Speaker 1: anyone that will listen at a party, I'm like, did
Speaker 1: you know Lucy Lou had sex with a ghost? I
Speaker 1: love talking about it.
Speaker 4: Was she think the most ostentatious thing Lucy Lou has
Speaker 4: ever done in her life besides Charlie's dangers too?
Speaker 2: Was that shade?
Speaker 1: Is that what they called shade on RuPaul's drag Race.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like to me.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm reading the catchy lyrics. Baby, when you're touching
Speaker 4: in the dark, can you feel it? I can hear
Speaker 4: the pontic of my heart. Can you feel it when
Speaker 4: you take my body to the stars? I believe that, boy,
Speaker 4: this love is supernatural? Can you feel it? Ooh ooh,
Speaker 4: oh wow.
Speaker 1: And there's people that will tell you, oh, if you
Speaker 1: do this spell and you say this, and the moon
Speaker 1: is facing this direction, and you light this thing and
Speaker 1: whatever you can conjure up a ghost, settle, do things
Speaker 1: to your bits?
Speaker 3: Interesting?
Speaker 4: Well, how would I make sure I get a gay one?
Speaker 4: Do I have to like light a certain type of like?
Speaker 4: Do I have to light up amethyst? Am I charging
Speaker 4: my amethyst stone?
Speaker 3: Or is that? Or is that an obsidian type of fantasy?
Speaker 1: You know now you would want the amethyst, and you
Speaker 1: would want to put on Lady Gaga's mayhem and that
Speaker 1: will make any man gay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Speaking of celebrities, did you know that Joan Crawford's lived
Speaker 1: in a haunted house.
Speaker 4: Joan Crawford, ak mommy DearS see A confused Joan Crawford
Speaker 4: is the woman who played her in the movie or
Speaker 4: they were doing the movie name?
Speaker 3: And I always get confused.
Speaker 1: You don't deserve a gay ghost if you don't even
Speaker 1: know who Joan Crawford is.
Speaker 4: Well, no, I know who John Crawford is, but I
Speaker 4: can never remember is that who the movie was made about?
Speaker 3: Or is she the one who played her in the movie?
Speaker 3: That was Faye Dunaway Fade done Away right about Joe Crawford's.
Speaker 1: Life, But she was so much like her that it
Speaker 1: gets it's you know, there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: that movie is so iconic and her portrayal of Joan
Speaker 1: Crawford that it's like that is Joan Crawford to a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 3: Right, See, Okay, so black, I was, I was so Mark.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this. Do you believe that
Speaker 1: Selena was j Low or do you know the difference there?
Speaker 4: Selena was a Mexican. No, yeah, I think I know that.
Speaker 4: I know Selene.
Speaker 2: I know, okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: We're learning about each other. This didn't come up in Portland. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so you've seen Mommy dearst you're familiar with this, Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: because here's what's so fascinating. I'm pretty sure that everyone
Speaker 1: listening to this show knows Mommy Dearest, but it's possibly
Speaker 1: you don't. It's a it's a classic film about Joan Crawford.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's based on the tell All book by
Speaker 1: Joan Crawford's daughter Christina.
Speaker 3: Christina Bring Me the Books story.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's about Christina's abuse that she received from Joan Crawford.
Speaker 1: But because of the way the movie is made, you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of these things where this poor little girl's
Speaker 1: getting her ass whooped, and the gaze just.
Speaker 2: Lets laugh and laugh and laugh.
Speaker 1: And it's a very quotable movie. It's a very many
Speaker 1: will say campy kind of a movie. But here's the
Speaker 1: thing I never in all my years, I never knew
Speaker 1: this until just the other day in my research. The
Speaker 1: house allegedly where Joan Crawford was living, like where the
Speaker 1: whole story is based around with Christina and where Christina
Speaker 1: grew up.
Speaker 2: Was haunted. They didn't tell you this.
Speaker 1: You don't see that part in the movie that there's
Speaker 1: a ghost secretly in that house, and apparently it was bad,
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 2: Actually, look at I have a clip for you.
Speaker 1: This is a clip from a nineteen ninety seven TV
Speaker 1: series called ghost Stories. How they come up with that name?
Speaker 1: And it's from an episode about Hollywood ghosts? And it
Speaker 1: was posts said on TikTok, which is where I found
Speaker 1: it by an account called paranormal dot curiosity.
Speaker 5: When children's voices continually echoed through the walls, they're small
Speaker 5: shadows scaling the hallways. Joan Crawford called a local minister
Speaker 5: to perform an exorcism on the house. Some say it
Speaker 5: was in vain because the evil spirits had already taken
Speaker 5: possession of the actress. Her daughter, Christina Crawford, recalled her
Speaker 5: mother's dying words, don't you dare ask God to help me?
Speaker 3: Don't you dare ask gods of youth?
Speaker 5: While after the death of Joan Crawford, the house remained hext.
Speaker 5: They say one only has to walk through the hallways
Speaker 5: to feel a chill crawled down your spy. Fires are
Speaker 5: rapped out of nowhere, and yet there is no one there.
Speaker 5: People who bought the house in later years all suffered
Speaker 5: mental stress and even another exorcism didn't do anything to
Speaker 5: alleviate the problem. Now the only question that remains is
Speaker 5: whether the spirits are strangers or whether it is perhaps
Speaker 5: Joan Crawford herself.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Apparently there was like spooky, scary spirits in the house
Speaker 1: when they were living there. Did it possess her?
Speaker 4: I mean they said that she went crazy, but she
Speaker 4: went crazy because of a hideous wallpaper. You should have wallpaper,
Speaker 4: and that's why I would go fucking crazy in that house.
Speaker 4: And I find that the reporter the end of the
Speaker 4: reporter is like, there's only one question left, and it
Speaker 4: was what he said.
Speaker 3: It was like, did jiton there are more? That's the question.
Speaker 2: A lot of questions.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of questions there.
Speaker 1: But here's what we're not gonna do is be like, well,
Speaker 1: she was possessed by a ghost, that's why she was
Speaker 1: beating her daughter. No, no, no, that's not it. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Okay, So I found this book that
Speaker 1: was called Hollywood and the Supernatural, and it's written by
Speaker 1: Sherry Hansen Steiger and Brad Steiger.
Speaker 2: I think they're a married couple.
Speaker 1: And it was released in nineteen ninety and it's this
Speaker 1: book all about Hollywood ghosts and stuff. And they actually
Speaker 1: did an interview with Christina. They asked her about the
Speaker 1: ghosts in nineteen eighty nine, and she says, not many
Speaker 1: people know that the house that I grew up in
Speaker 1: may be haunted.
Speaker 2: It's not in print anywhere. At this point, you know,
Speaker 2: no one had talked about it.
Speaker 1: She says, I have vivid memories of some things, but
Speaker 1: when you are severely abused, you tend to block out
Speaker 1: other things. I'm positive that there were manifestations occurring when
Speaker 1: I was little.
Speaker 2: I saw them.
Speaker 1: There were places in the house that were always so cold,
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to go in them. As a child, I
Speaker 1: was always told that I had an active and vivid imagination.
Speaker 1: I was always scared by things, but people just told
Speaker 1: me that I just had this active imagination. Years later,
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, well, maybe that was good to have
Speaker 1: an active imagination, and I became a writer. But as
Speaker 1: a child I saw things in the house. There was,
Speaker 1: of course, no context or framework in which I put
Speaker 1: what I saw and felt. Anytime, I would become extremely
Speaker 1: frightened and would go out of bed to try and
Speaker 1: find someone. I was always treated as though I were
Speaker 1: just being a bad child that didn't want to go
Speaker 1: to sleep. So yeah, her mom was not happy about it.
Speaker 1: I used to have terrible nightmares. Oh. One of the
Speaker 1: things I saw seemed like an apparition of a child
Speaker 1: or children. So anyway, after John Crawford moved out, then
Speaker 1: the new owners moved in and they actually had a reverend,
Speaker 1: Reverend Rosalin brew Year.
Speaker 3: I got to see you.
Speaker 1: It's me of the Healing Light Center, some kind of church,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. So this lady reverend came in and
Speaker 1: she says when they interviewed her that the house had
Speaker 1: some dark ass energy. She said gave her goose bumps,
Speaker 1: and there were signs of ritual abuse in the rooms.
Speaker 1: According to this minister who came in to do a exorcism.
Speaker 4: Why do ghosts like everything's so cold, like you're already
Speaker 4: spending your life in eternity.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I would rather, you know, I'm always in a sweater.
Speaker 1: I love it, a sweater, a faux fur. I like
Speaker 1: the cold long as I have layers, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 4: But they have to live their lives suffering as a ghost.
Speaker 4: You don't you don't think they would choose to be
Speaker 4: warm and at least they get that comfortable.
Speaker 2: Called hell.
Speaker 1: Fair, This lady she says that this whole house is
Speaker 1: just the way it's set up, is like, it's just
Speaker 1: weird energy. And there she said, the dining rooms and
Speaker 1: hallways that led to the other dining rooms. Uh, it
Speaker 1: all combines to form and eight shape. Oh yeah, she's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, this place is haunted as hell. She
Speaker 1: called it astral central.
Speaker 4: Astral central. Yeah, that's what I call That's what I
Speaker 4: call my.
Speaker 2: Switch.
Speaker 3: So I used that term for me as well. Astral center.
Speaker 2: You stupid anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh and yes, the Beverly Hills Fire department husband called
Speaker 1: in the past because there were spontaneous fires that broke out.
Speaker 3: Did Joan die in the house? No?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No she didn't, But.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just found it interesting, did it just an interesting
Speaker 1: way to look at mommy dearest after all these years
Speaker 1: to think like, apparently Christina was like seeing ghosts and
Speaker 1: being like mom, mommy dearest, and she's like, dog coll me, Christina, Christina,
Speaker 1: bring me the holy water. Also in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: there was a Vanity Fair article that was titled did
Speaker 1: Joan Crawford's ghost haunt the set of Mommy Dearest by
Speaker 1: Rosemary Counter and to answer the question after reading the article, no,
Speaker 1: it does not sound like she did. But they had
Speaker 1: multiple weird things happen while they were shooting the film,
Speaker 1: like Faye Dunaway's voice. She lost her voice after the
Speaker 1: wire hangers seen, and so she's like, oh, is this
Speaker 1: Joan Crawford taking my voice away from me?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm not sure about that one. Also, some
Speaker 1: of her gowns went missing.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 1: That was the gay hairdresser that wanted to one of
Speaker 1: Faye Dunaway's dresses.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that's a fact. Stuff.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh girl, howmnna take that?
Speaker 4: And now all these decades later, he has the original
Speaker 4: Fate done Away alpha from the movie.
Speaker 1: Hello absolutely, And then also an entire reel of film
Speaker 1: they shot on and then it came back and it
Speaker 1: was blank. So they're like the ghost, the ghost of
Speaker 1: Fate of Joan Crawford.
Speaker 3: That's not surprise.
Speaker 4: I haven't try to make Mommy dearris a musical. They'll
Speaker 4: be a good musical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is actually kind of weird. They make everything
Speaker 1: a musical. It's coming yeah, shun't you worry. Can I
Speaker 1: show you a haunted.
Speaker 3: Doll like you have one in studio?
Speaker 2: No, but I have one on eBay.
Speaker 3: That you're gonna buy and persons in your home.
Speaker 2: No, just let me show you.
Speaker 1: This is a segment I do every episode called the
Speaker 1: Dolls Are Living.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I go to eBay dot com and I
Speaker 2: type in the.
Speaker 1: Words haunted doll. And you know there's at all times,
Speaker 1: there's just hundreds of these dolls that are for sale,
Speaker 1: and they come with stories and people claim that a
Speaker 1: human has died and found themselves inside of these dolls.
Speaker 2: Money. Why are you rolling your eyes?
Speaker 4: I'm listening. We all want to believe in some crazy
Speaker 4: is it's so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this one's real money. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'd like for you to meet Willow. Show us Willow please, geeha.
Speaker 2: You got it?
Speaker 1: ROSI is going for sixteen dollars with zero bids.
Speaker 3: Oh willo was she?
Speaker 1: Or you could get Willow for twenty two dollars by
Speaker 1: it now. Willow is one of these weird dolls that's
Speaker 1: like a rabbit but shaped like a human. She's got
Speaker 1: like a rabbit's head and rabbit feet. And here's the
Speaker 1: story that she comes with. It says she's thirty two
Speaker 1: years old. In her early twenties, she dated a guy
Speaker 1: for a couple of years and she thought he was
Speaker 1: going to ask him to marry her, and then he
Speaker 1: broke up with her instead, so she was heartbroken. She
Speaker 1: never dated a man again. She worked as a waitress
Speaker 1: at a local restaurant, and then she fell in love
Speaker 1: with a woman when she was twenty seven. They lived together,
Speaker 1: they became life partners. They really wanted children, so they
Speaker 1: decided to go to a sperm bank, and she got
Speaker 1: pregnant when she was twenty nine, and then it gets
Speaker 1: really depressing and then blah blah blah, she died. So
Speaker 1: now she's trapped inside of this doll for sixteen dollars
Speaker 1: on eBay, it says she likes knitting, sewing, crafting, scrap booking, shopping, movies, music,
Speaker 1: herbal teas, and baking. She likes to hang out with
Speaker 1: my wife, says the person that's selling this. They like
Speaker 1: to chat over a cup of tea. She sometimes flickers lights,
Speaker 1: She opens and shuts doors, knocks on walls. She has
Speaker 1: opened all of the kitchen cupboards as well, and she
Speaker 1: rocks herself in their rocking chair.
Speaker 2: Are you interested?
Speaker 3: You know, A part of me is kind of sess
Speaker 3: with his outfit.
Speaker 2: I could see you in that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a cunty version of it. Sorry, can't I
Speaker 3: say cunty? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Of course you can say cutry.
Speaker 3: Okay, a cunty version of this. You know, I think
Speaker 3: I would bid high.
Speaker 4: I mean, I will go for something else because I
Speaker 4: feel like the more expensive the doll, the more likely
Speaker 4: is there will I'll actually get the spirit paid I'm purchasing,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I don't think so. I disagree. I think
Speaker 1: that well, I don't know. It could vary, but to me,
Speaker 1: a lot of the times, these people it's like if
Speaker 1: you really had some invisible spirit opening and shut in
Speaker 1: your shed all the time, be in a new sense.
Speaker 1: You would be like, someone, take this now. I don't
Speaker 1: care about the money. Just give me ten cents, because
Speaker 1: I legally have to say it's a certain amount of money,
Speaker 1: just to take it.
Speaker 4: Girl, with America, capitalism rules the land. Yes, you have
Speaker 4: this horror doll that is tormenting you, but you can
Speaker 4: still make money off of it. You're gonna sell it
Speaker 4: to the highest bidder.
Speaker 1: Girl, Yeah, you're right, Can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's time for EVP.
Speaker 2: H ev pase.
Speaker 1: Okay, EVP Electronic voice phenomena. So I go to the
Speaker 1: Internet and I.
Speaker 2: Find people's alleged ghost recordings. They believe they've captured a
Speaker 2: ghost saying something.
Speaker 1: And I've got two of them here for you, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play them. I want you to tell me
Speaker 1: what you hear, and then I'll give you an ABCD option,
Speaker 1: with the right answer being what the ghost hunter believes
Speaker 1: their ghost is saying.
Speaker 3: Also, just ignore me.
Speaker 4: I'm just casually pouring to heen in my hand and
Speaker 4: looking at I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: With to him, that is hot? Are you Mexican?
Speaker 3: That's the second time I've ever was asked that today.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: This first one was hosted by Perfect Ratio Studios on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, and they recorded this
Speaker 1: at a house. They say the house was built in
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies. I don't know what's this ghost saying, Monet.
Speaker 2: Could you hear that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It very It's very fast, so it's like one second,
Speaker 4: it's your boyfriend.
Speaker 2: I could totally hear that. Well, here's some options. Do
Speaker 2: they think it was.
Speaker 1: A please kiss my boyfriend. Maybe they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: one of those open relationship gay people. Uh huh, I've
Speaker 1: heard about them.
Speaker 3: I've heard about them too.
Speaker 1: B it's the boyfriend, see, I can't support that, or
Speaker 1: d a queen's apartment. Okay, it's one of those. Let
Speaker 1: me play it again.
Speaker 3: I'm one of them. Be my original thought, it's your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they thought. I mean, it sounds a
Speaker 1: lot like that. Yeah, okay, here's one more. This is
Speaker 1: from Ghost Encounter Global, and I'm guessing it's somewhere in
Speaker 1: England because the investigators in this video they had British accents,
Speaker 1: but I cut them out of it. So all you're
Speaker 1: going to hear is a ghost what is it saying?
Speaker 4: I know exactly what that goes to, saying what that's
Speaker 4: what happens to everyone who adopts this lifestyle.
Speaker 3: Why am I vegan? Oh? I am vegan? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, have you met a vegan?
Speaker 3: They will not let you forget, even even in death.
Speaker 2: I am vegan. Wow. You know Jackie beats vegan girl.
Speaker 3: Every time you hang out with her, you hear about
Speaker 3: how fucking vegan she.
Speaker 2: Is his t shirts. She has multiple let's say that
Speaker 2: she's vegan.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, anyway, they did not think it had anything
Speaker 1: to do with veganism.
Speaker 2: Oh did they think it was a mary Anne?
Speaker 1: I can hear you, B I am gay, see I
Speaker 1: am near you, or d I can't stand you.
Speaker 4: Let me hear it one more time. I think it
Speaker 4: should be option E. I am vegan, but no, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say option C.
Speaker 1: They believe it was a oh mary Anne, I can
Speaker 1: hear you.
Speaker 2: I don't hear mary Anne, but I hear I can
Speaker 2: hear you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I didn't say, because I was like,
Speaker 4: there's definitely not a Marianne in there.
Speaker 2: There's no Marianne in there. Wait, let me play it again.
Speaker 3: I think the Marianne is inferred by the tone.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that the one person there's name was Marianne.
Speaker 1: So they're like, it said my name. It's like I
Speaker 1: did say I can hear you, but I did not
Speaker 1: say I hear mary Anne. Okay, we're gonna do one
Speaker 1: last thing and then you and your tahen can get
Speaker 1: on out of here.
Speaker 3: You know, I do. I do talk to ghosts. I talked.
Speaker 3: I talked to Jesus, he's a ghost.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that for two seconds.
Speaker 3: Why I talked to Jesus he's a ghost?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he is good. Now what religion were
Speaker 1: you raised with?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: My god, I was raised a Methodist, but in high
Speaker 4: school converted into a non denominational, non denominational Pentecostal.
Speaker 2: It was wild Pentecostal girl.
Speaker 1: And so, honey, how much do you believe when it
Speaker 1: comes to that stuff nowadays?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I have completely bitch. I on the other side, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't fuck of the religion, fuck all of that.
Speaker 4: I believe it's spirituality, but I'm believing like religion, organized
Speaker 4: religion is the actual devil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I kind of believe in that too.
Speaker 1: All right, let me just ask you a couple of
Speaker 1: quick ones and see what comes up for you. All right, darling, horoscopes,
Speaker 1: what about them? What do you think of horoscopes?
Speaker 3: Bullshit, y'all.
Speaker 4: Every horoscope they're just they speak in the most in
Speaker 4: the plainest Vegas language of the like signs for Gemini. Today,
Speaker 4: you will wake up and snourish your body with a
Speaker 4: thing that you need to do every day and periodically
Speaker 4: you will inhale a gas that you need to live
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, bitch, we all do that. It's
Speaker 4: just like the Vegas Vegas terms that everyone can feel
Speaker 4: related to.
Speaker 2: I think they're real.
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say this.
Speaker 1: Right, no, I actually I'm I'm on the same page
Speaker 1: with you. But what were you say? Have you ever
Speaker 1: had your charts done?
Speaker 3: I haven't had my charts.
Speaker 4: And I will say this, like the moon can literally
Speaker 4: literally controls the tides on our planet, right, so I
Speaker 4: think there is something to do with terrestrial like forms
Speaker 4: out there that can like that do manipulate and things
Speaker 4: on the Earth. But as far as the year and
Speaker 4: time you were born dictating your entire personality, no, you
Speaker 4: see you and I don't need that shit. We have
Speaker 4: enough personality. Hardcoes are for people who don't have enough
Speaker 4: personality and they need something to inform who they inform
Speaker 4: them of who they are.
Speaker 3: Damn. See.
Speaker 1: One time I was with a group of people and
Speaker 1: someone was doing this thing. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: it's a birth chart or what, but they were they
Speaker 1: were looking at some kind of horoscope thing and they go, oh,
Speaker 1: so here's you know, you're this and you're that, and
Speaker 1: you're this, And then one of our friends that was
Speaker 1: with us had the exact same whatever the thing was
Speaker 1: as Beyonce, and it was like, only a certain amount
Speaker 1: of people have this thing, and it's like for people
Speaker 1: that change the world, and it has to do with
Speaker 1: when the planets were, when you were born and whatever.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, now I feel bad. So why
Speaker 1: I'm just a loser because I was born when I
Speaker 1: was born, right privilege?
Speaker 4: And also if at the same sign as Beyonce, she's
Speaker 4: out here selling out arena and out over here doing
Speaker 4: ketemene on the weekends, like one of us is not
Speaker 4: living up to our truest potential, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And you know spoiler alert is me.
Speaker 2: What do you think of past lives?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't believe in past lives. I do believe in energy, right,
Speaker 4: because what do you think about it? Energy's energy, because
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: A real thing.
Speaker 4: We are literally all made up of atoms and part
Speaker 4: of like we're like we're literally at a quantum level.
Speaker 3: We are energy, Like that's what we are.
Speaker 4: That's why when someone comes into a room that is
Speaker 4: really down and out, like very negative energy can really
Speaker 4: affect the atmosphere and temperature of the room.
Speaker 3: So I do believe in that.
Speaker 4: So I do believe that when you die, you kind
Speaker 4: of go into non existence like when you were before
Speaker 4: you were born.
Speaker 3: You don't remember anything before that.
Speaker 4: And I believe the energy though that that you give
Speaker 4: up when you die, it goes somewhere. Now, well, doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that. Maybe maybe my energy is two thousand years
Speaker 4: old and I was some gay ass. I don't know
Speaker 4: Mesopotamian walking around serving up Mesopotamia, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do think energies are real
Speaker 4: and you do pass.
Speaker 3: But as far as a life like, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't under believe in that energy because energy never dies, right,
Speaker 4: Energy literally does not die. It only passes. It passes
Speaker 4: through things and it becomes something else. Energy never fades
Speaker 4: away and dies. So that's I believe.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of you in Mesopotamia starving honey, Yes,
Speaker 1: with like the flintstones. Honey, you're like Wilma girl. What
Speaker 1: are you doing with Fred?
Speaker 3: That bear?
Speaker 2: Okay? What do you think about Bigfoot?
Speaker 4: I just can't there's that show now, this is real
Speaker 4: on TLC that's finding Bigfoot and.
Speaker 2: These mother for years?
Speaker 4: How have you been looking for this motherfucker for so
Speaker 4: for probably more than a decade now, and you have
Speaker 4: never found them?
Speaker 3: With the you have the iPhone sixteen G.
Speaker 4: Plus nine X Galaxy p X ninety X, and you
Speaker 4: every footage looks like it was shot on a on
Speaker 4: a fucking h KEYO Sarah Virgin mobile.
Speaker 3: I just don't understand how that is a thing.
Speaker 4: So that's why I have I have a lot of
Speaker 4: doubts about Bigfoot because there's no way we have not
Speaker 4: found seen this hole yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is this hoe?
Speaker 3: Where's she at?
Speaker 1: The thought that there's so many shows about somebody that
Speaker 1: we don't even know if they exist, and yet I
Speaker 1: exist and I can't get any damn show centered around me?
Speaker 2: Fuck you Bigfoot?
Speaker 4: Yeah, girl, we were able to use computer technology to
Speaker 4: find Osama bin Lana in a rock in a mountain
Speaker 4: in the desert, somewhere hidden on the nineteen big total,
Speaker 4: but Bigfoot's big ass we can't find.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is your big ass?
Speaker 3: Like? There's no as.
Speaker 1: Okay, last one, what about demons? What do you think
Speaker 1: is that a thing?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I work with one on a weekly basis. His
Speaker 4: name is Bother the Drag Queen, and he is absolutely
Speaker 4: a demon incarnate personified and demons absolutely exist.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard Bubb's ghost story?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I mean I would tell you because she was just
Speaker 1: on the show and she told it. I wasn't listening,
Speaker 1: but it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: You should.
Speaker 4: You should listen, I'll ask, I don't know. I didn't
Speaker 4: know if she had a ghost story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm I'm curious with you and your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this stuff.
Speaker 2: What you would you would have to say.
Speaker 4: Well, it's so curious because you know, he Bob is
Speaker 4: such a pragmatic person, and to hear that he has
Speaker 4: a ghost story, now I'm really curious he does.
Speaker 3: He think goes so real.
Speaker 1: He had a spirit appear in his life and make
Speaker 1: a prediction that came true. And what I appreciate about
Speaker 1: Bob is that she's like me in the sense that it's.
Speaker 2: Like, uh, I don't know what it was. I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like all I know is that it happened. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like that's sort of like I like that where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this kind of thing happens. I can't I can't tell
Speaker 1: you x y z oh, this is an angel from
Speaker 1: the fourth Realm dimension of the planet. Like you know,
Speaker 1: some of these people will will start telling you shit.
Speaker 2: Like that Monday.
Speaker 3: That's it. Thank you for having me all, Hernandez.
Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this. It's so hard.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna do my show?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: I'm sitting around waiting. Wow, nobody's called me, so I'm
Speaker 2: guessing not, but I would like to.
Speaker 3: We're gonna just eat spoonfuls of tahina on my show.
Speaker 2: Hey tell everyone which and whatever you want them to know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I have a show called Monet Talks.
Speaker 4: Rod is going to be a guest on they very soon.
Speaker 4: We have lots of different people, drag queens, drag superstars,
Speaker 4: drag losers, celebrity friends, celebrity guests, politicians, plastic surgeons. We
Speaker 4: were in a game with a different guest. So come
Speaker 4: and listen to an episode where we get your podcast.
Speaker 4: But we do video episodes on YouTube. You know, YouTube
Speaker 4: is now is the now number one place that people
Speaker 4: consume podcasts?
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yep? They passed Apple, they passed Spotify. Google.
Speaker 4: People say anyone will really listen to Google Play if
Speaker 4: you listen to a fucking podcasts on Google grow up.
Speaker 4: But yeah, YouTube is now the number one place to
Speaker 4: buy a mile though not even close.
Speaker 1: No, I just to tell you that my podcast is
Speaker 1: very big on Google and with the horoscope communities, that
Speaker 1: this is not going to be cute for you, but
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with those people.
Speaker 2: So thanks for doing this.
Speaker 3: Thank you girl.
Speaker 2: Also, what's that behind you? It's a wig?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to money Exchange. I learned a
Speaker 1: lot that episode. It's one I'll never forget. Hey, make
Speaker 1: sure you go buy those tickets to see me live.
Speaker 1: I'm going on tour Roz Hernandez tour dot com for dates.
Speaker 1: I'm doing stand up in a lot of gay places
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a trans queer gay silly time.
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me
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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the start of Jiha Lee. Associate
Speaker 1: producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed
Speaker 1: and sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest
Speaker 1: booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is
Speaker 1: by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the
Speaker 1: spooky Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive
Speaker 1: produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,
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