WEBVTT - 532 | MLB Trade Deadline Returns (Part 1) 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.040 Any switch trips it high. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:19.280 Understand deep to shutter field, and it's gone, Wow. 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.200 His first big league swing is gonna be a grand 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.480 slam home line swing. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.159 Good time to. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:29.840 The soup. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.800 Welcome back to the Call Up, your go to podcast 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:38.599 on the future stars of Major League Baseball. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.360 We've got a lot to catch up on. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.160 This is gonna be the first of probably a three 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:45.919 episode series. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.240 Here you got arm lighton Elijah Evans. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.239 We have to recap the trade deadline, and we're not 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.120 even gonna get to the trades that happened on the 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.080 actual deadline day itself, because we've got trades from the 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.400 days before that we still need to break down. There 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.920 are so many prospects move in here, so many big trades, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.039 but also some smaller ones that I think are gonna 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:06.000 be really fun to highlight. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.399 Some intriguing prospects change in hands. 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:08.600 Here. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.920 We got the top end guys, the top one hundred 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.039 guys moving. We've got some of the under the radar 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.600 like Arizona, Florida, Complex League guys that are just in 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.600 low way that I think are intriguing to break down, 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:18.800 and everything in between. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.679 So very excited to do that. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.240 We do have, of course, the Tarrek Scooble blockbuster to 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:25.240 talk about on here. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.120 I'm very glad and we'll get more into it that 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:28.800 our audience. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.120 I think we'll have a measured take and understanding on that, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.200 because that's what the call up is all about. But 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.880 we'll break that down and then several other trades in between. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.160 Gonna have a lot of trades to talk about this week. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:41.880 Yeah, man, there is a lot to cover. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.400 We were talking about how to even break this up, and 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.360 I was like, Okay, let's just start with like pre 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.960 deadline day because a ton happened, I mean Monday. Yeah, 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.760 as we were recording here on Tuesday. The actual deadline 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.400 day on Monday was ridiculous, Like it was NonStop. There 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.400 was a couple breaks here and there, but it was 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.000 truly like a trade within every five to ten minute, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.600 and it's the entire day. It was pretty insane. So 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.920 today we're gonna start with these pre deadlines. Obviously leading 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.560 the way is the school trade, and then we've got 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.160 a bunch of other trades that are still really fun 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.000 in their own right, even some really small ones that 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:12.480 I know you have some guys, you think there are 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.240 some nice little sleeper prospect gets later in this episode, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.480 but starting it off with a bang Man Trek Scooble 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.440 goes to the Los Angeles Dodgers, obviously Zayr Hope, River 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.960 Ryan and Brady Smith going over to the Tigers. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.320 You know, the internet reaction. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.160 As you alluded to earlier, like pretty ridiculous, I think 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.880 to see the amount of people that were like, oh 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.000 my god, the Dodgers fleeced them. I think we mentioned 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.360 this talking a few days ago, like was there a 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.359 better individual prospect available for the Tigers than Zayr Hope? 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.480 And that doesn't mean the Brewers and Raised systems were 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.000 bad because those systems are loaded. Was there a better 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.240 individual prospect than Zyr Hope? My guess is no, given 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.680 that this is the trade that ends up going through 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.560 for Trek School, and. 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.440 And then it went through like a day in change before, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.320 almost two days before, right, and I think people were. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.919 Like, oh, why not wind it down? Whatever? 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.240 Like no, like that was always going to be I 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.320 think the move that they wanted to make ahead of 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.480 the time. You were going to get everybody's best offers 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.079 and go from there so then all of the other 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.720 teams could pivot, right, the Brewers still end up pivoting 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.720 not to get anybody like of Schooble's caliber, But they 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.680 went out and got guys. The race still went out 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.760 and pivoted. The difference is you were never going to 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.000 get Theo Gillen, who is a top ten prospect probably 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.240 in baseball on our next update. You were never going 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.120 to get Jesus Miday. Now Luis Pania maybe could have 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:27.639 been the best prospect. But that's where it starts to 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.480 become eye of the beholder. Like we have Paania ranked higher, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.040 something I always talk about, and this is something that 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.720 you know, I think is a very fair thing to acknowledge, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.720 and I try to now balance this more. It is 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.640 so much easier for us in our chairs, without our 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.920 jobs on the line, to rank the further off prospects 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.400 with higher ceilings a little bit ahead of the guys 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.800 with more proximity. And Zayer Hope used to be one 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.520 of those guys, right, But now Zayer Hope is a 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.680 guy that is torching double a, pitching ten homers in 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.680 his last twenty two games and is for a trip 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.360 away call up soon and now is tracking for next year. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.160 Louis Pana, while ranked higher by a lot of outlets 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:07.440 US included, though Hope was. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.480 Going to close that gap on our update coming up soon. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.839 Has been good but had a health scare, is still 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.560 finding his footing in high A. And at the end 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.160 of the day, if the Tigers valued Hope above above. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.279 You know, loose Penia wouldn't shock me. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.039 I don't have any information on that, but I don't 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.800 think it would be crazy to value that proximity. And 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.400 it's not like Painy is sticking it short and which 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.960 like you also have Hope moving over to a corner. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.680 It's all about the bats with these guys. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.920 And you've got a guy that's improved his contact right 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.159 by six percent ince out of your Hope, who's improved 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.680 his swing decisions, who's made subtle swing improvements to you know, 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.240 just be a more well rounded hitter while making the 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.960 leap up to double A. I don't think it's it's 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.159 crazy to like Hope more. Possibly And the other side 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.279 is like, I think there was an opportunity there for 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.080 maybe the package would be a little bit bigger because 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:58.720 of the second piece. And I think this is where 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.080 the big contention became. You know, the whole thing about 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.600 River Ryan and him being eight thousand years old. He's 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.000 the oldest man on earth. Whatever it may be. Logan Henderson, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.919 I'd obviously rather have than than River Ryan, because he 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.520 somehow has another year of control, he has more success 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.440 at the big league level. But there's a case that 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.000 River Ryan just has a better pitch mix and he 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:19.960 needs to stay healthy, he needs to show that he 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.680 can handle the workload. But this is the thing that 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.680 I think gets really frustrating for me and the discourse 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.719 around River Ryan is that, you know, we forget this 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.120 was a twenty three year old. He was a two 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.600 way guy at UNC Pembroke, I think it's D two 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:34.200 or whatever, but. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.559 Never really solely focused on pitching. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.800 Was drafted as a hitter, ends up making the switch 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:41.159 over to the mound professionally, was borderline like a released 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.240 guy before fully transitioning to the mount and showing some 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.400 things gets acquired for Matt Beatie if you remember, and 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.080 then you know the Dodgers turn him into what he's 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.960 turned into. But when you start on the mound full 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.360 time at twenty three, you also have a Tommy John 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:56.920 surgery which wipes out a year and a half, which 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.320 every pitcher has. You're gonna have a weird circumsanc here 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.360 where we have a twenty eight year old who's still 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.720 a prospect. That said he debuted in twenty four at 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.360 big league success. Then it's just a weird situation too, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.720 where everyone always ends up getting blocks on the Dodgers, 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.840 and it's just a weird spot. This is a guy 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.760 with middle rotation stuff, and I think you're not going 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.040 to find many evaluators out there that don't think that 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:18.400 this is a really good pitch. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:19.320 Mix with River Ryan. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.480 It's mid nineties fastball, he gets up to the upper nineties, 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.000 good shape, throws a ton of strikes, nasty slider, good cutter, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.280 like I can go through each of the pitch grades 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.279 and it's ridiculously good stuff. That's why he was the 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.560 fortieth rank prospect for US. I have a sixty on 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.320 the heater, sixty on the slider, fifty five on the cutter, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.640 fifty five on the curveball, fifty on the change up 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.880 in fifty command. That's a monster. Health is a question. 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.640 He's twenty eight, but I don't care what he looks 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.560 like at the end of his years of control. All 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.400 that matters is the years of control For a trade 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.840 like this, and you've got River Ryan for four years 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.000 after this year, where yeah, he's gonna be thirty two 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.600 at the end of it. To me, these are really 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.599 good years that a teams pay a lot of money 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.760 for for pitchers, usually when they're free agency. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:02.800 I mean at the end of the day, dude, Like, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.640 if he's a four starter for four years in Detroit, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.640 that value for ten starts at Derek Scooble is already there. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.160 And that's not even talking about the headliner, which is 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:14.680 clearly as I your hope and a guy who was 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.640 twenty three homers this season in Double A as a 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.480 twenty one year old, someone that you had as a 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.679 top ten guy at one point because of how much 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.640 how bullish you were on what he can be as 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.200 a hitter. So you're talking about a guy with mid 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.480 rotation upside and then paired with a guy you could 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.320 be a thirty home or outfielder if things click at 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.600 the big league level for him. So it's the combination 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.600 of two top fifty prospects for US and both guys 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.720 that have upside to be a true key core piece 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.280 for Detroit moving forward, where I don't think another team 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.000 had two guys that you both view as a staple 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:46.760 of the future that they were willing to put on 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.280 the table and say here it is for ten starts 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.240 of Schooble with nothing beyond that. And the Dodgers part 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.120 of it is they probably feel more confident in doing 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.040 this because they might have a better chance to sign 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.960 school than the Rays do, than the Brewers do, than 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.600 some of these other teams you write like and if 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.040 they don't, so what that's that is the luxury of 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.720 the Dodgers, And that's where that's it's up traded. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:04.560 And I get it. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.960 They have the luxury to say, we know we will 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.920 replenish the system, and we know we'll have pitching. Even 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.000 if Schoole leaves us, We're fine, Well, you're going to 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.160 try to resign him. We're gonna try to make him 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.040 love us for ten for three months and win a 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:16.680 World Series with him, and then he's gonna want to 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:17.440 stay here anyways. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.600 But if they lose him, they're fine at the end 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:19.920 of the day. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.120 Other teams trading those two levels of prospects losing him, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:24.640 they'd be struggling, right. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.000 So that is the luxury of the Dodgers. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.280 But at the same time, it's not like it was 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.520 some crazy fleets where they traded some garden, you know, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:30.920 bag of chips for trek school. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.719 They traded two elite prospects. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:34.640 Yeah, and that's the biggest thing. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.079 And even if you're a little bit more and you 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:37.480 could say maybe they should have been able to get 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.160 em at Sheehan. And that's something where I think the 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.120 Dodgers dug their heels in and said no. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.240 But I think that's also why they had to tack on. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.440 Brady Smith, which Brady Smith is not worthless in this 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.120 whole equation either twenty one years old, a ball of 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.360 clay that I think the Tigers are really excited to 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.240 be able to potentially mold here. Fastball average is ninety 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.880 ninety five miles per hour and from a five to 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.920 nine release height, he's averaging no worth of nineteen inches 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.000 of induced vertical break. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:03.360 He's been missing middle. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.760 So the numbers against the fastball are a little bit 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.160 worse than maybe, you know, I think the stuff would imply. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.000 But it's ninety five with plus carry. Then the change 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.760 up is wicked. That's a plus change up. So you 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.000 got ninety five with plus carry change up tunnel, and 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.480 off of it you've already got, you know, a two 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.280 pitch combination there that I think is going to carry him. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.160 But it's not like that's all he has. Either. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.480 He throws a hard cutter at like eighty nine to 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.800 ninety one that I think is a really good bridge pitch, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.040 and then he also mixes in a two seamer and 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.199 a curveball about eighty miles per hour that also looks 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.600 like a solid offering. So I mean, this is a 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.520 guy that I think looks like he could project into 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.800 a ceiling of a three starter as well. Obviously a 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.840 lot of room to grow here and a lot of 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.160 things that have to happen, but this is a very 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.760 exciting I think ball of clay to be able to 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.120 play with like here, and this is not again a 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.480 throw in nobody. I think this is what had to 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.280 be added on when it wasn't Sheehan and Hope. Then 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.040 now we're not gonna do that. We're gonna do River, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.000 but we'll give you, you know, a guy that I think 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.760 Brady Smith, by the end of this year will probably 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.080 be right around the top fifteen and maybe even closer 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.240 to the top ten in this Tiger system. So it's 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.560 a pretty darn good return again. I think the big 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.600 X factor in this is can River Ryan stay healthy? 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.520 And the biggest thing with that too is I think 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.440 the injury issues have been overblown. You had Tommy John surgery, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.640 as every pitcher really ever does, and then a hamstring 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.080 thing has hampered him a little bit. I think that's 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.520 the part that's been like why we haven't seen him 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.520 as much this year dealing with the hammy. I don't 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.959 see a crazy long list of injury issues. And if 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.000 he can come back from the hammy and throw all 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.920 this year, I think it really like will make things 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.880 positive when you look at the return here, and I 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.480 think people are really misunderstanding the value of him when Okay, yeah, 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.120 he's gonna be thirty two at the end of this, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.400 but I still think a guy with not a lot 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.240 of miles on his arm relative to most twenty eight 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.200 year old starters and even thirty year old starters, isn't 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.280 going to have the same age curve. But also that 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.520 age curve that we've seen referenced a lot has flattened 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.600 a lot in recent years. With all of the information, 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.560 the plio balls, all the stuff, all the resources that 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.080 pitchers have, that age curve is really flattened in the 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.520 early thirties. I'm not worried about age curve with with 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.239 River Ryan, given the lack of miles in the athleticism. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.400 So I think he is the X factor in the 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.240 steal because I do feel really good that Hope's going 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.600 to be a you know, a twenty twenty threat potentially 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.800 and just be a solid bat in the corner outfield. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:25.840 But I also think a big part of this package 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.720 for the Tigers, they wanted proximity. They get a big 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.559 league starter that can help them as soon as he's 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.560 off the il. They get a corner bat, a lefty 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.920 that is probably going to replace like Kerry Carpenter or 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.199 whoever else and and can help them as soon as 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:38.720 next year. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.280 And then you get the fun project in Brady Smith. Yeah. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.079 I love the point there about Ryan too, And I'm 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.760 curious you kind of just set it there, But like, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.559 do you think if he's fully healthy, is he is 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.400 he in Detroit in that rotation in September? 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.440 I think he has to be, and I think I 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.240 think he's and he can. Like they're not punting this 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.560 season yet, right, I mean, the American League is completely open, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.160 and I think this is a guy that can actually 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.439 help them down the stretch. The int the same thing 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.680 is you look at the rotation right now on roster 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.480 resource They've got Frombert, They've got kydro Montero, they've got 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:09.320 Troy Melton, Flaherty's on the il and you're not gonna 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.920 get Resolson back anytime soon with the shoulder surgery. He's 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.960 out for the season. So you're gonna get Jackson job 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.959 back soon. He's making a rehab appearance and trip away. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.520 And then I think Danny innings from River Ryan, so 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.720 you're gonna have him plugged in the rotation as well. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.319 It makes a pretty fun young combination of Montero, Melton 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.920 has been shoving Job back off of injury, and then 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.960 River Ryan. There's young controllable talent there. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.880 It's pretty crazy to lose Derek Scoobel and Casey Meis 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.520 and in these trades and still have a pretty good 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.040 rotation as you just kind of hit on there, like 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.240 if Ryan's back and Job's back, like you get two 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.000 young guys coming off injury in addition to the way 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.120 that Melton's been throwing, like you mentioned in Montero as well, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.000 Like it's actually still a pretty good rotation. I just 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.960 I don't know if that you know, they might fall 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.320 too back, too far back by the time both those 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.760 guys are back in their rotation actually, but you never know. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.160 They could still hang around. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.600 Right and it's young and competitive, and yeah, they might 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.920 have some growing pains, but I think it's gonna be 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.400 fun to watch each of those guys every fifth day. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.360 Yeah, we got our next trade on the docket here 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.520 reviewing these pre deadline deals going in order kind of 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.440 the player pedigree more than a timeline, just for reference 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.679 for everyone here, But going over to Kevin Gosman. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.200 Now the Cubs get an arm. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.720 The Cub's got a couple arms, and we'll hear about 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.760 the other arm the Cubs got on the next part 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.720 of this show. But starting with the Kevin Gosman deal, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.040 tie South the scene and Brett Bateman go over to 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.360 the Blue Jays in exchange for Kevin Gosman. The Blue 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.000 Jays did this unique half by half sell thing that 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.200 I actually kind of think was pretty fun there. But 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.360 this is one where they it's a rental Gosman. They 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.120 love Gosman, but they're not pushing chips this year. He's 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.920 a rental guy. The Cubs pay up with two kind 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:41.880 of middle of their farm system type of guys. You're 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.000 not paying a premium here, but both guys with at 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.959 least some intrigue in South Scene and Bateman. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.600 Yeah, these are like kind of model guys in the 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.600 respect that they've got the carrying tools to make them 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.120 high probability big leaguers. But then the question is just 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.040 you know, what's the ceiling going to look like there? 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.760 But I think for a rental, they're there's two schools 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.840 of thought. I think when you're when you're trading a 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.160 rental and not a Terrek Scooball rental, but like just 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.200 kind of your average rental, which I think Gosman is 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.760 like your upper echelon average rental should get you a 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.280 nice return. A lot of teams want them, but at 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.440 the end of the day, no one's trading their top 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.200 top prospects for him at this stage. Right, you could 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.320 go for the lotto ticket at the complex or low A, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.080 or you can go for. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.080 Kind of the higher floor, lower ceiling types. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.440 And I think that's what we saw that the Blue 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.760 Jays go with here where South is seen ninety two 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.760 percent zone contact right eighty two percent overall, but he 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.480 is yet to homer as a pro and good. I 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.120 think that's what one hundred and fifty six games on 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:40.880 of fifty seven games, he is yet to homer. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.560 But he can run. The glove is superb. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:45.880 And I think that's the other part where you're gonna 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.320 get a really good defender up the middle. Uh, And yeah, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.600 I think it could be phenomenal at second base if 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.800 you need can play a solid third, but also plays 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.760 a good shortstop. And and I think at the very 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.960 least you get a solid, you know, high floor piece 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.160 there that's gonna be able to I think at least 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.440 fill a utility type of role. And then you can 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.760 kind of copy and paste similar things with Brett Bateman. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.080 He's just closer to the big leagues and I think 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.520 that's just something that they wanted to minfield depth and 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.200 can help in that regard. But for a rental, I mean, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:16.880 you're gonna get two guys that are probably gonna fill 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.000 a big league role. How in what capacity will be 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.920 the interesting thing. But with Bateman as well, again good 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.720 back to ball, eighty four percent overall contact rate, you know, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:32.680 patient approach, it's not again minimal minimal minimal impact, but 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.560 at the same time he's gonna be able to go 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.480 get it and play some good defense in center field. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.520 And if you get a fourth outfielder and a utility 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.280 infielder for rental, those are guys that are gonna fill, 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.320 you know, backfill roles, I think for the Blue Jays. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.640 Yeah, it is fascinating to see the way that teams 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.120 approach their rentals, And clearly this was one that was like, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.200 let's get two guys that can be big leaguers. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:52.440 You're not dreaming. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.720 About, you know, either of these guys probably being a 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.880 superstar player at All Star even right, but like they 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.400 can both be a big league piece Bateman. I'm interested 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.040 in seeing how they roll them out of it. I 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.040 honestly think he could be up in Toronto this year, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.640 later in this season to finish off the year, like 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.440 maybe pretty soon, frankly, like this season has been his 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.880 best overall offensive season of his minor league career so far. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.760 Twenty four years old. This year at the Triple A level, 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.680 in eighty two games, he's rocking a one twenty five 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.240 WRC plus he's striking out and walking like like pretty 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.720 much the same clip twenty stolen bases. Like you said, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.840 there's not a ton of juice their impact, but like 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.760 he's gonna still you some bags. He's gonna walk a 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.760 bunch he's gonna give you, Like you mentioned good defense 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.120 center field, like that's at least a piece, and like 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.160 if yeah, if he's starting three days a week in 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.200 the outfield for the Blue Jays, you feel. 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.560 Pretty good about that in terms of someone who is 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:33.600 gonna probably leave. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.400