Speaker 1: Any switch trips it high.
Speaker 2: Understand deep to shutter field, and it's gone, Wow.
Speaker 3: His first big league swing is gonna be a grand
Speaker 3: slam home line swing.
Speaker 2: Good time to.
Speaker 1: The soup.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Call Up, your go to podcast
Speaker 4: on the future stars of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot to catch up on.
Speaker 4: This is gonna be the first of probably a three
Speaker 4: episode series.
Speaker 1: Here you got arm lighton Elijah Evans.
Speaker 4: We have to recap the trade deadline, and we're not
Speaker 4: even gonna get to the trades that happened on the
Speaker 4: actual deadline day itself, because we've got trades from the
Speaker 4: days before that we still need to break down. There
Speaker 4: are so many prospects move in here, so many big trades,
Speaker 4: but also some smaller ones that I think are gonna
Speaker 4: be really fun to highlight.
Speaker 1: Some intriguing prospects change in hands.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 4: We got the top end guys, the top one hundred
Speaker 4: guys moving. We've got some of the under the radar
Speaker 4: like Arizona, Florida, Complex League guys that are just in
Speaker 4: low way that I think are intriguing to break down,
Speaker 4: and everything in between.
Speaker 1: So very excited to do that.
Speaker 4: We do have, of course, the Tarrek Scooble blockbuster to
Speaker 4: talk about on here.
Speaker 1: I'm very glad and we'll get more into it that
Speaker 1: our audience.
Speaker 4: I think we'll have a measured take and understanding on that,
Speaker 4: because that's what the call up is all about. But
Speaker 4: we'll break that down and then several other trades in between.
Speaker 4: Gonna have a lot of trades to talk about this week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, there is a lot to cover.
Speaker 5: We were talking about how to even break this up, and
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, let's just start with like pre
Speaker 5: deadline day because a ton happened, I mean Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 5: as we were recording here on Tuesday. The actual deadline
Speaker 5: day on Monday was ridiculous, Like it was NonStop. There
Speaker 5: was a couple breaks here and there, but it was
Speaker 5: truly like a trade within every five to ten minute,
Speaker 5: and it's the entire day. It was pretty insane. So
Speaker 5: today we're gonna start with these pre deadlines. Obviously leading
Speaker 5: the way is the school trade, and then we've got
Speaker 5: a bunch of other trades that are still really fun
Speaker 5: in their own right, even some really small ones that
Speaker 5: I know you have some guys, you think there are
Speaker 5: some nice little sleeper prospect gets later in this episode,
Speaker 5: but starting it off with a bang Man Trek Scooble
Speaker 5: goes to the Los Angeles Dodgers, obviously Zayr Hope, River
Speaker 5: Ryan and Brady Smith going over to the Tigers.
Speaker 3: You know, the internet reaction.
Speaker 5: As you alluded to earlier, like pretty ridiculous, I think
Speaker 5: to see the amount of people that were like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, the Dodgers fleeced them. I think we mentioned
Speaker 5: this talking a few days ago, like was there a
Speaker 5: better individual prospect available for the Tigers than Zayr Hope?
Speaker 5: And that doesn't mean the Brewers and Raised systems were
Speaker 5: bad because those systems are loaded. Was there a better
Speaker 5: individual prospect than Zyr Hope? My guess is no, given
Speaker 5: that this is the trade that ends up going through
Speaker 5: for Trek School, and.
Speaker 4: And then it went through like a day in change before,
Speaker 4: almost two days before, right, and I think people were.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, why not wind it down? Whatever?
Speaker 4: Like no, like that was always going to be I
Speaker 4: think the move that they wanted to make ahead of
Speaker 4: the time. You were going to get everybody's best offers
Speaker 4: and go from there so then all of the other
Speaker 4: teams could pivot, right, the Brewers still end up pivoting
Speaker 4: not to get anybody like of Schooble's caliber, But they
Speaker 4: went out and got guys. The race still went out
Speaker 4: and pivoted. The difference is you were never going to
Speaker 4: get Theo Gillen, who is a top ten prospect probably
Speaker 4: in baseball on our next update. You were never going
Speaker 4: to get Jesus Miday. Now Luis Pania maybe could have
Speaker 4: been the best prospect. But that's where it starts to
Speaker 4: become eye of the beholder. Like we have Paania ranked higher,
Speaker 4: something I always talk about, and this is something that
Speaker 4: you know, I think is a very fair thing to acknowledge,
Speaker 4: and I try to now balance this more. It is
Speaker 4: so much easier for us in our chairs, without our
Speaker 4: jobs on the line, to rank the further off prospects
Speaker 4: with higher ceilings a little bit ahead of the guys
Speaker 4: with more proximity. And Zayer Hope used to be one
Speaker 4: of those guys, right, But now Zayer Hope is a
Speaker 4: guy that is torching double a, pitching ten homers in
Speaker 4: his last twenty two games and is for a trip
Speaker 4: away call up soon and now is tracking for next year.
Speaker 4: Louis Pana, while ranked higher by a lot of outlets
Speaker 4: US included, though Hope was.
Speaker 1: Going to close that gap on our update coming up soon.
Speaker 4: Has been good but had a health scare, is still
Speaker 4: finding his footing in high A. And at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, if the Tigers valued Hope above above.
Speaker 1: You know, loose Penia wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 4: I don't have any information on that, but I don't
Speaker 4: think it would be crazy to value that proximity. And
Speaker 4: it's not like Painy is sticking it short and which
Speaker 4: like you also have Hope moving over to a corner.
Speaker 1: It's all about the bats with these guys.
Speaker 4: And you've got a guy that's improved his contact right
Speaker 4: by six percent ince out of your Hope, who's improved
Speaker 4: his swing decisions, who's made subtle swing improvements to you know,
Speaker 4: just be a more well rounded hitter while making the
Speaker 4: leap up to double A. I don't think it's it's
Speaker 4: crazy to like Hope more. Possibly And the other side
Speaker 4: is like, I think there was an opportunity there for
Speaker 4: maybe the package would be a little bit bigger because
Speaker 4: of the second piece. And I think this is where
Speaker 4: the big contention became. You know, the whole thing about
Speaker 4: River Ryan and him being eight thousand years old. He's
Speaker 4: the oldest man on earth. Whatever it may be. Logan Henderson,
Speaker 4: I'd obviously rather have than than River Ryan, because he
Speaker 4: somehow has another year of control, he has more success
Speaker 4: at the big league level. But there's a case that
Speaker 4: River Ryan just has a better pitch mix and he
Speaker 4: needs to stay healthy, he needs to show that he
Speaker 4: can handle the workload. But this is the thing that
Speaker 4: I think gets really frustrating for me and the discourse
Speaker 4: around River Ryan is that, you know, we forget this
Speaker 4: was a twenty three year old. He was a two
Speaker 4: way guy at UNC Pembroke, I think it's D two
Speaker 4: or whatever, but.
Speaker 1: Never really solely focused on pitching.
Speaker 4: Was drafted as a hitter, ends up making the switch
Speaker 4: over to the mound professionally, was borderline like a released
Speaker 4: guy before fully transitioning to the mount and showing some
Speaker 4: things gets acquired for Matt Beatie if you remember, and
Speaker 4: then you know the Dodgers turn him into what he's
Speaker 4: turned into. But when you start on the mound full
Speaker 4: time at twenty three, you also have a Tommy John
Speaker 4: surgery which wipes out a year and a half, which
Speaker 4: every pitcher has. You're gonna have a weird circumsanc here
Speaker 4: where we have a twenty eight year old who's still
Speaker 4: a prospect. That said he debuted in twenty four at
Speaker 4: big league success. Then it's just a weird situation too,
Speaker 4: where everyone always ends up getting blocks on the Dodgers,
Speaker 4: and it's just a weird spot. This is a guy
Speaker 4: with middle rotation stuff, and I think you're not going
Speaker 4: to find many evaluators out there that don't think that
Speaker 4: this is a really good pitch.
Speaker 1: Mix with River Ryan.
Speaker 4: It's mid nineties fastball, he gets up to the upper nineties,
Speaker 4: good shape, throws a ton of strikes, nasty slider, good cutter,
Speaker 4: like I can go through each of the pitch grades
Speaker 4: and it's ridiculously good stuff. That's why he was the
Speaker 4: fortieth rank prospect for US. I have a sixty on
Speaker 4: the heater, sixty on the slider, fifty five on the cutter,
Speaker 4: fifty five on the curveball, fifty on the change up
Speaker 4: in fifty command. That's a monster. Health is a question.
Speaker 4: He's twenty eight, but I don't care what he looks
Speaker 4: like at the end of his years of control. All
Speaker 4: that matters is the years of control For a trade
Speaker 4: like this, and you've got River Ryan for four years
Speaker 4: after this year, where yeah, he's gonna be thirty two
Speaker 4: at the end of it. To me, these are really
Speaker 4: good years that a teams pay a lot of money
Speaker 4: for for pitchers, usually when they're free agency.
Speaker 5: I mean at the end of the day, dude, Like,
Speaker 5: if he's a four starter for four years in Detroit,
Speaker 5: that value for ten starts at Derek Scooble is already there.
Speaker 5: And that's not even talking about the headliner, which is
Speaker 5: clearly as I your hope and a guy who was
Speaker 5: twenty three homers this season in Double A as a
Speaker 5: twenty one year old, someone that you had as a
Speaker 5: top ten guy at one point because of how much
Speaker 5: how bullish you were on what he can be as
Speaker 5: a hitter. So you're talking about a guy with mid
Speaker 5: rotation upside and then paired with a guy you could
Speaker 5: be a thirty home or outfielder if things click at
Speaker 5: the big league level for him. So it's the combination
Speaker 5: of two top fifty prospects for US and both guys
Speaker 5: that have upside to be a true key core piece
Speaker 5: for Detroit moving forward, where I don't think another team
Speaker 5: had two guys that you both view as a staple
Speaker 5: of the future that they were willing to put on
Speaker 5: the table and say here it is for ten starts
Speaker 5: of Schooble with nothing beyond that. And the Dodgers part
Speaker 5: of it is they probably feel more confident in doing
Speaker 5: this because they might have a better chance to sign
Speaker 5: school than the Rays do, than the Brewers do, than
Speaker 5: some of these other teams you write like and if
Speaker 5: they don't, so what that's that is the luxury of
Speaker 5: the Dodgers, And that's where that's it's up traded.
Speaker 3: And I get it.
Speaker 5: They have the luxury to say, we know we will
Speaker 5: replenish the system, and we know we'll have pitching. Even
Speaker 5: if Schoole leaves us, We're fine, Well, you're going to
Speaker 5: try to resign him. We're gonna try to make him
Speaker 5: love us for ten for three months and win a
Speaker 5: World Series with him, and then he's gonna want to
Speaker 5: stay here anyways.
Speaker 3: But if they lose him, they're fine at the end
Speaker 3: of the day.
Speaker 5: Other teams trading those two levels of prospects losing him,
Speaker 5: they'd be struggling, right.
Speaker 3: So that is the luxury of the Dodgers.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's not like it was
Speaker 5: some crazy fleets where they traded some garden, you know,
Speaker 5: bag of chips for trek school.
Speaker 3: They traded two elite prospects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4: And even if you're a little bit more and you
Speaker 4: could say maybe they should have been able to get
Speaker 4: em at Sheehan. And that's something where I think the
Speaker 4: Dodgers dug their heels in and said no.
Speaker 1: But I think that's also why they had to tack on.
Speaker 4: Brady Smith, which Brady Smith is not worthless in this
Speaker 4: whole equation either twenty one years old, a ball of
Speaker 4: clay that I think the Tigers are really excited to
Speaker 4: be able to potentially mold here. Fastball average is ninety
Speaker 4: ninety five miles per hour and from a five to
Speaker 4: nine release height, he's averaging no worth of nineteen inches
Speaker 4: of induced vertical break.
Speaker 1: He's been missing middle.
Speaker 4: So the numbers against the fastball are a little bit
Speaker 4: worse than maybe, you know, I think the stuff would imply.
Speaker 4: But it's ninety five with plus carry. Then the change
Speaker 4: up is wicked. That's a plus change up. So you
Speaker 4: got ninety five with plus carry change up tunnel, and
Speaker 4: off of it you've already got, you know, a two
Speaker 4: pitch combination there that I think is going to carry him.
Speaker 1: But it's not like that's all he has. Either.
Speaker 4: He throws a hard cutter at like eighty nine to
Speaker 4: ninety one that I think is a really good bridge pitch,
Speaker 4: and then he also mixes in a two seamer and
Speaker 4: a curveball about eighty miles per hour that also looks
Speaker 4: like a solid offering. So I mean, this is a
Speaker 4: guy that I think looks like he could project into
Speaker 4: a ceiling of a three starter as well. Obviously a
Speaker 4: lot of room to grow here and a lot of
Speaker 4: things that have to happen, but this is a very
Speaker 4: exciting I think ball of clay to be able to
Speaker 4: play with like here, and this is not again a
Speaker 4: throw in nobody. I think this is what had to
Speaker 4: be added on when it wasn't Sheehan and Hope. Then
Speaker 4: now we're not gonna do that. We're gonna do River,
Speaker 4: but we'll give you, you know, a guy that I think
Speaker 4: Brady Smith, by the end of this year will probably
Speaker 4: be right around the top fifteen and maybe even closer
Speaker 4: to the top ten in this Tiger system. So it's
Speaker 4: a pretty darn good return again. I think the big
Speaker 4: X factor in this is can River Ryan stay healthy?
Speaker 4: And the biggest thing with that too is I think
Speaker 4: the injury issues have been overblown. You had Tommy John surgery,
Speaker 4: as every pitcher really ever does, and then a hamstring
Speaker 4: thing has hampered him a little bit. I think that's
Speaker 4: the part that's been like why we haven't seen him
Speaker 4: as much this year dealing with the hammy. I don't
Speaker 4: see a crazy long list of injury issues. And if
Speaker 4: he can come back from the hammy and throw all
Speaker 4: this year, I think it really like will make things
Speaker 4: positive when you look at the return here, and I
Speaker 4: think people are really misunderstanding the value of him when Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's gonna be thirty two at the end of this,
Speaker 4: but I still think a guy with not a lot
Speaker 4: of miles on his arm relative to most twenty eight
Speaker 4: year old starters and even thirty year old starters, isn't
Speaker 4: going to have the same age curve. But also that
Speaker 4: age curve that we've seen referenced a lot has flattened
Speaker 4: a lot in recent years. With all of the information,
Speaker 4: the plio balls, all the stuff, all the resources that
Speaker 4: pitchers have, that age curve is really flattened in the
Speaker 4: early thirties. I'm not worried about age curve with with
Speaker 4: River Ryan, given the lack of miles in the athleticism.
Speaker 4: So I think he is the X factor in the
Speaker 4: steal because I do feel really good that Hope's going
Speaker 4: to be a you know, a twenty twenty threat potentially
Speaker 4: and just be a solid bat in the corner outfield.
Speaker 4: But I also think a big part of this package
Speaker 4: for the Tigers, they wanted proximity. They get a big
Speaker 4: league starter that can help them as soon as he's
Speaker 4: off the il. They get a corner bat, a lefty
Speaker 4: that is probably going to replace like Kerry Carpenter or
Speaker 4: whoever else and and can help them as soon as
Speaker 4: next year.
Speaker 1: And then you get the fun project in Brady Smith. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I love the point there about Ryan too, And I'm
Speaker 5: curious you kind of just set it there, But like,
Speaker 5: do you think if he's fully healthy, is he is
Speaker 5: he in Detroit in that rotation in September?
Speaker 4: I think he has to be, and I think I
Speaker 4: think he's and he can. Like they're not punting this
Speaker 4: season yet, right, I mean, the American League is completely open,
Speaker 4: and I think this is a guy that can actually
Speaker 4: help them down the stretch. The int the same thing
Speaker 4: is you look at the rotation right now on roster
Speaker 4: resource They've got Frombert, They've got kydro Montero, they've got
Speaker 4: Troy Melton, Flaherty's on the il and you're not gonna
Speaker 4: get Resolson back anytime soon with the shoulder surgery. He's
Speaker 4: out for the season. So you're gonna get Jackson job
Speaker 4: back soon. He's making a rehab appearance and trip away.
Speaker 4: And then I think Danny innings from River Ryan, so
Speaker 4: you're gonna have him plugged in the rotation as well.
Speaker 4: It makes a pretty fun young combination of Montero, Melton
Speaker 4: has been shoving Job back off of injury, and then
Speaker 4: River Ryan. There's young controllable talent there.
Speaker 5: It's pretty crazy to lose Derek Scoobel and Casey Meis
Speaker 5: and in these trades and still have a pretty good
Speaker 5: rotation as you just kind of hit on there, like
Speaker 5: if Ryan's back and Job's back, like you get two
Speaker 5: young guys coming off injury in addition to the way
Speaker 5: that Melton's been throwing, like you mentioned in Montero as well,
Speaker 5: Like it's actually still a pretty good rotation. I just
Speaker 5: I don't know if that you know, they might fall
Speaker 5: too back, too far back by the time both those
Speaker 5: guys are back in their rotation actually, but you never know.
Speaker 3: They could still hang around.
Speaker 4: Right and it's young and competitive, and yeah, they might
Speaker 4: have some growing pains, but I think it's gonna be
Speaker 4: fun to watch each of those guys every fifth day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got our next trade on the docket here
Speaker 5: reviewing these pre deadline deals going in order kind of
Speaker 5: the player pedigree more than a timeline, just for reference
Speaker 5: for everyone here, But going over to Kevin Gosman.
Speaker 3: Now the Cubs get an arm.
Speaker 5: The Cub's got a couple arms, and we'll hear about
Speaker 5: the other arm the Cubs got on the next part
Speaker 5: of this show. But starting with the Kevin Gosman deal,
Speaker 5: tie South the scene and Brett Bateman go over to
Speaker 5: the Blue Jays in exchange for Kevin Gosman. The Blue
Speaker 5: Jays did this unique half by half sell thing that
Speaker 5: I actually kind of think was pretty fun there. But
Speaker 5: this is one where they it's a rental Gosman. They
Speaker 5: love Gosman, but they're not pushing chips this year. He's
Speaker 5: a rental guy. The Cubs pay up with two kind
Speaker 5: of middle of their farm system type of guys. You're
Speaker 5: not paying a premium here, but both guys with at
Speaker 5: least some intrigue in South Scene and Bateman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these are like kind of model guys in the
Speaker 4: respect that they've got the carrying tools to make them
Speaker 4: high probability big leaguers. But then the question is just
Speaker 4: you know, what's the ceiling going to look like there?
Speaker 4: But I think for a rental, they're there's two schools
Speaker 4: of thought. I think when you're when you're trading a
Speaker 4: rental and not a Terrek Scooball rental, but like just
Speaker 4: kind of your average rental, which I think Gosman is
Speaker 4: like your upper echelon average rental should get you a
Speaker 4: nice return. A lot of teams want them, but at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, no one's trading their top
Speaker 4: top prospects for him at this stage. Right, you could
Speaker 4: go for the lotto ticket at the complex or low A,
Speaker 4: or you can go for.
Speaker 1: Kind of the higher floor, lower ceiling types.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what we saw that the Blue
Speaker 4: Jays go with here where South is seen ninety two
Speaker 4: percent zone contact right eighty two percent overall, but he
Speaker 4: is yet to homer as a pro and good. I
Speaker 4: think that's what one hundred and fifty six games on
Speaker 4: of fifty seven games, he is yet to homer.
Speaker 1: But he can run. The glove is superb.
Speaker 4: And I think that's the other part where you're gonna
Speaker 4: get a really good defender up the middle. Uh, And yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it could be phenomenal at second base if
Speaker 4: you need can play a solid third, but also plays
Speaker 4: a good shortstop. And and I think at the very
Speaker 4: least you get a solid, you know, high floor piece
Speaker 4: there that's gonna be able to I think at least
Speaker 4: fill a utility type of role. And then you can
Speaker 4: kind of copy and paste similar things with Brett Bateman.
Speaker 4: He's just closer to the big leagues and I think
Speaker 4: that's just something that they wanted to minfield depth and
Speaker 4: can help in that regard. But for a rental, I mean,
Speaker 4: you're gonna get two guys that are probably gonna fill
Speaker 4: a big league role. How in what capacity will be
Speaker 4: the interesting thing. But with Bateman as well, again good
Speaker 4: back to ball, eighty four percent overall contact rate, you know,
Speaker 4: patient approach, it's not again minimal minimal minimal impact, but
Speaker 4: at the same time he's gonna be able to go
Speaker 4: get it and play some good defense in center field.
Speaker 4: And if you get a fourth outfielder and a utility
Speaker 4: infielder for rental, those are guys that are gonna fill,
Speaker 4: you know, backfill roles, I think for the Blue Jays.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is fascinating to see the way that teams
Speaker 5: approach their rentals, And clearly this was one that was like,
Speaker 5: let's get two guys that can be big leaguers.
Speaker 3: You're not dreaming.
Speaker 5: About, you know, either of these guys probably being a
Speaker 5: superstar player at All Star even right, but like they
Speaker 5: can both be a big league piece Bateman. I'm interested
Speaker 5: in seeing how they roll them out of it. I
Speaker 5: honestly think he could be up in Toronto this year,
Speaker 5: later in this season to finish off the year, like
Speaker 5: maybe pretty soon, frankly, like this season has been his
Speaker 5: best overall offensive season of his minor league career so far.
Speaker 5: Twenty four years old. This year at the Triple A level,
Speaker 5: in eighty two games, he's rocking a one twenty five
Speaker 5: WRC plus he's striking out and walking like like pretty
Speaker 5: much the same clip twenty stolen bases. Like you said,
Speaker 5: there's not a ton of juice their impact, but like
Speaker 5: he's gonna still you some bags. He's gonna walk a
Speaker 5: bunch he's gonna give you, Like you mentioned good defense
Speaker 5: center field, like that's at least a piece, and like
Speaker 5: if yeah, if he's starting three days a week in
Speaker 5: the outfield for the Blue Jays, you feel.
Speaker 3: Pretty good about that in terms of someone who is
Speaker 3: gonna probably leave.
Speaker 1: In two months exactly.
Speaker 4: And the last thing I'll mention destroys fastballs, and then
Speaker 4: you could be better against spin, but he doesn't chase
Speaker 4: as much. But thousand ops against fastballs for Bateman struggles
Speaker 4: against spin five eighteen ops, but hedges that by putting
Speaker 4: the ball in play and just doesn't chase. So to me,
Speaker 4: gonna give you competitive at bats off the bench, spots start,
Speaker 4: whatever it may be. And yeah, again they could have
Speaker 4: maybe one higher ceiling on one piece further away. Instead
Speaker 4: they kind of backfill here, and I don't hate it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, we got a bunch more trades to
Speaker 5: get to. Let's take one quick break here and then
Speaker 5: we'll keep getting into these pre deadline deals. Jumping right
Speaker 5: back in here on the call up we're talking about
Speaker 5: trade deadline prospect returns before actual deadline day. Deadline day
Speaker 5: will be in. Our next part might even be three
Speaker 5: parts of deadline stuff, because this was a crazy trade deadline.
Speaker 5: The next one up is the Luis Garcia Junior trade
Speaker 5: to the Yankees. This was a fascinating one because I
Speaker 5: think the Yankeys adding a bat or two was like,
Speaker 5: that's gonna happen some way or another.
Speaker 3: We knew that was always going to be a factor.
Speaker 5: But they get an interesting kind of big package, four players,
Speaker 5: including a big leaguer in three prospects in exchange for
Speaker 5: Luis Garcia Junior going over to the Nationals red hand
Speaker 5: or your Vannie Cruz. Jake Bird is the MLB reliever there,
Speaker 5: and then also two more pitchers in Jack Siebert and
Speaker 5: Ben Grabel, so a trio of pitchers in addition to
Speaker 5: an MLB reliever. We'll focus on the three prospects here.
Speaker 5: You could take it away, which with everyone you want
Speaker 5: to start with with Cruz Sepert agreeable, as the Nats
Speaker 5: get a kind of a depth over ceiling type of
Speaker 5: package here with three arms they can get in their
Speaker 5: system and see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 4: Given where the Nationals are at, I mean, they've got
Speaker 4: a good they've got a lot of young talent in
Speaker 4: the farm system, and they've got a big league team
Speaker 4: that is hanging around this year. But I think you
Speaker 4: look at next year and it's funny. Every time everference
Speaker 4: next year, I just can hear somebody saying, there is
Speaker 4: going to be a next year. Let's just operate under
Speaker 4: the assumption that there is. You can next year in
Speaker 4: the year after that. This is exactly what they needed, right.
Speaker 4: If you look at the Nationals, their laundry lists, like
Speaker 4: their to do list, I should say, is very straightforward.
Speaker 4: After the season bullpen, arms, pitching, depth, pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching,
Speaker 4: and that's what they get here, right, And I think
Speaker 4: the fun part with it is they get a couple
Speaker 4: guys that, look.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to make a mega
Speaker 4: run here or anything, but this season isn't punted for them.
Speaker 4: Is are they losing a lot of production with Garcia
Speaker 4: shore but they backfill him with abamlik Ortiz, who was
Speaker 4: ready for a big league opportunity, came over in that
Speaker 4: Mackenzie Gord deal and by the way, I already put
Speaker 4: I think had a great first game up with them,
Speaker 4: but also has been really good at Triple A and
Speaker 4: could be a solid power bat for them that at
Speaker 4: least can help them just make up some of the production.
Speaker 4: Obviously Garcia has been fantastic, but at least you're not
Speaker 4: replacing him with the traffic cone. And then you get
Speaker 4: a couple guys here that, like Giovanni Kruz, could be
Speaker 4: one of their best relievers down the stretch. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be shocked if he picked up a couple saves, like
Speaker 4: they don't have anybody in there, and then you go
Speaker 4: to I think a couple of the arms that they
Speaker 4: brought in.
Speaker 1: Grabel is probably the most interesting in terms of what
Speaker 1: he could be. We saw him at the Futures game,
Speaker 1: and Grabel he's a reliever, right, but it's ninety six
Speaker 1: with twenty one inches of vert. Yeah, from a slightly
Speaker 1: above average release height, but it's not like he's releasing
Speaker 1: it from the sky. It's about six to two release height, and.
Speaker 4: He's getting twenty one vert at ninety six miles an hour,
Speaker 4: touching the upper nineties with a gyro slider that just
Speaker 4: darts off of that, that guy could legit be a closer.
Speaker 4: And if he's if he's a high leverage reliever for
Speaker 4: you that's already in the upper miners, great he gets
Speaker 4: up there and he could help you as soon as
Speaker 4: next season as well. I loved that aspect of it,
Speaker 4: where you get like two controllable, high octane stuff relievers.
Speaker 1: You get a backfield guy with Bird who.
Speaker 4: Even though he kind of stinks this, you're like, he
Speaker 4: still is probably fine for them. And then Sebert's kind
Speaker 4: of the pitching starting pitching prospect where you can try
Speaker 4: to develop him and see what you can get.
Speaker 5: My thing with this one and the only reason I
Speaker 5: had a little bit of positive one, I think I
Speaker 5: agree with you, like the two relievers you're never gonna
Speaker 5: get as much prospect pedigree on because they are relievers
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, like cruising Gravel are
Speaker 5: gonna be relief pitching prospects. With Siebert, I wonder if
Speaker 5: I thought at first glance, with the year of control
Speaker 5: still on Garcia, they could have got a little bit
Speaker 5: better of a starting pitching like project guy.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: That was my only takeaway from this is like you
Speaker 5: got two big relievers, you got a backfilled MLB guy, right.
Speaker 5: I wanted there to be one piece in there that
Speaker 5: you get a little more dream on in terms of
Speaker 5: like maybe he can be a legitimally starter. I think
Speaker 5: there's a couple guys in the Yankee system that they
Speaker 5: probably didn't want to move that fit that mold, so
Speaker 5: they went with Siebert. But that was the one thing
Speaker 5: I My only gripe with this from the national side
Speaker 5: is not getting one guy that you really see as
Speaker 5: a potential true starter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 4: I do agree with that, Like I think it could
Speaker 4: have probably gotten a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Like a of a sexy starting pitching prospect.
Speaker 4: But I do wonder if there's just something that to
Speaker 4: Bony and co see with Siebert when you look at
Speaker 4: the model, like some of the things that stick out
Speaker 4: to them. Seven feet of extension from Siebert's unique. That's
Speaker 4: obviously plus. Yeah he's only ninety three, but it's a
Speaker 4: five to six release height, so below average release height
Speaker 4: with plus extension, and it's it's a wide array of pitches.
Speaker 4: So I do wonder if they see something here that
Speaker 4: they can maybe unlock a little bit more. He's got
Speaker 4: that like sweeping, so there's just a couple of different
Speaker 4: guys I've seen with this, and this is what Brandon
Speaker 4: Fott had when he was going crazy in the playoffs
Speaker 4: and kind of lost it a little bit.
Speaker 1: That riding sweeper where.
Speaker 4: It's got the sweeper shape but it gets five inches
Speaker 4: of vert or so, and that pitch is discussing. We
Speaker 4: talked about what that kinner Martinez with the Giants, and
Speaker 4: he has and it just decimates guys. So you have
Speaker 4: that the cutter in between sweeping curveball below that. I
Speaker 4: think this is a pitch mix that they're just excited
Speaker 4: to work with. We'll see, but I agree like I
Speaker 4: think it could have maybe aimed a little bit higher
Speaker 4: on the you know, starting pitcher, but then maybe they
Speaker 4: don't get Grable right, and so it's like this give
Speaker 4: and take. Welcome to the negotiations of a trade. I
Speaker 4: can't imagine the other side of it. That I think
Speaker 4: is probably part of it is if the Yankees, who
Speaker 4: don't care about money as much, aren't taking Willis Garcia.
Speaker 1: I think some other teams.
Speaker 4: May kind of haggle a little bit about how Garcia
Speaker 4: is going to cost twelve million dollars next year in
Speaker 4: his final year of ar That's.
Speaker 3: A good point.
Speaker 5: He is going to be a little bit expensive, especially
Speaker 5: coming off the season he's having right now. It's not
Speaker 5: going to be a cheap like arbitration little like four
Speaker 5: million dollars salary guy next year.
Speaker 3: He's definitely going to cost a bit.
Speaker 5: So the Yankees are okay with that because I think
Speaker 5: he the defensive fit with the Yankees is a whole
Speaker 5: another layer to this that you guys talked about on
Speaker 5: the JB Show. It's really interesting how they're going to
Speaker 5: figure out if they're healthy. I don't even know who
Speaker 5: actually starts wear for them in the playoffs, Like I'm
Speaker 5: really it's a tough conversation. With that said, I think
Speaker 5: this trade is also a no brainer for the Yankee
Speaker 5: side of it. Like you give away three pitchers the Yankees, Like,
Speaker 5: I mean example, right fifteenth round pick, right, Like that's
Speaker 5: like a you know, it's last year fifteenth rounder for
Speaker 5: the standard one hundred and fifty thousand dollars signing Bote.
Speaker 3: It's like the Yankees can spawn plenty of these pictures.
Speaker 3: This is a no brainer for them.
Speaker 5: They needed a bat like Garcia Homer's and his Yankee debut,
Speaker 5: like he's the guy.
Speaker 3: They just like they needed to get someone of this kind.
Speaker 5: Of category and they did, and Romost is not a
Speaker 5: bad get too, but like they needed someone in this
Speaker 5: who's having this type of offensive season to come in
Speaker 5: and just infuse that offense right now, Garcia at least
Speaker 5: especially for the next month without Belly and Judge out,
Speaker 5: Like this was a needed get for the Yankees.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree on the spawning arms thing that
Speaker 4: they're they're like posts draft, like pre debut pitching lab program.
Speaker 4: Thing they have is these guys come out with just
Speaker 4: better stuff and optimizeduff, and we see it all the time,
Speaker 4: and the fifteenth rounders turn into canary your tertiary pieces
Speaker 4: and trades like this, and that's how you create currency
Speaker 4: for yourself, you know, and create even without the best
Speaker 4: farm system.
Speaker 1: That's how you're able to still pull off trades no doubt.
Speaker 5: Going over to the next trade on our list here,
Speaker 5: my White Sox acquired Louis Castill from the Mariners in
Speaker 5: a really interesting double dead money kind of bad contract swap.
Speaker 5: Of the one prospect involved that was kind of the
Speaker 5: push it over with bad money going both directions was
Speaker 5: catching prospect Boston Smith who was going to be on
Speaker 5: a heat sheet soon, and I honestly could have put
Speaker 5: him in last time because he has had one of
Speaker 5: the most ridiculous, like past two month stretches in his
Speaker 5: first pro season.
Speaker 3: He's a catcher six round pick last year.
Speaker 5: The Curtis Mead trade trajectory now is getting crazier and
Speaker 5: gasier because you had Curtis Mead for Boston Smith in
Speaker 5: the offseason, and now Meade for early and now Boston
Speaker 5: Smith has becomes the key piece that gets the White
Speaker 5: Sox a lease Castillo. I've been incredibly impressed by Boston Smith.
Speaker 5: For those that are our Mariners fans. I did an
Speaker 5: interview with him a few weeks ago on feature Socks
Speaker 5: actually funny timing, and he was super candid, A really
Speaker 5: interesting guy. Definitely one of the more like thinky, brainy
Speaker 5: catchers that I've ever talked to in the minor league space.
Speaker 5: Like he definitely thinks about everything from like a catching
Speaker 5: strategy standpoint, which I love.
Speaker 3: I think he's in a really good season. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think there's some questions about the defense.
Speaker 5: He's playing multiple roles, like he's played left field and
Speaker 5: catching for the White Sox. He didn't start catching full
Speaker 5: time until his senior year of college, which was last spring,
Speaker 5: So like he's really not. He wasn't a full time
Speaker 5: catcher literally until last year. So is he a catcher?
Speaker 5: Is he more of this kind of David Fry catcher,
Speaker 5: backup slash at corner infield corner outfield guy.
Speaker 3: Probably more of that ladder option.
Speaker 5: But an interesting prospect nonetheless, And I do think he's
Speaker 5: gonna have a chance to, you know, be a piece
Speaker 5: for Seattle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna ask you about the defense because
Speaker 4: obviously I have not grinded then the Boston Smith receiving
Speaker 4: and catch and throw tape.
Speaker 1: But I love my Right State hitters. I'll always say that.
Speaker 4: I love that all of these guys are always under
Speaker 4: the radar and they always end up doing more than
Speaker 4: you expect.
Speaker 1: You mentioned just kind of the mental approach and side
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 4: I think that does very much help to like justify
Speaker 4: having a guy behind the plate once or twice a week.
Speaker 4: Do you know, like prior to the trade, where the
Speaker 4: White Sox keen on developing him as a catcher because
Speaker 4: he was playing a fairmountal left too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounded to me like they wanted to keep
Speaker 5: the catching open, but more as a backup catcher and
Speaker 5: or utility guy rather than like a catcher. It didn't
Speaker 5: seem to me like the intention was like he's going
Speaker 5: to be an everyday catcher. Ever, it was more of
Speaker 5: like we want to make sure he still catches because
Speaker 5: he's he's solid back there. He also, like he was
Speaker 5: telling me about when he was at Right State, he
Speaker 5: played like shortstop sometimes when they needed him to, he
Speaker 5: was playing outfield, like he was one of those guys.
Speaker 5: He was just like the best player on that team.
Speaker 5: He started a d one, he didn't get enough playing time.
Speaker 5: He transferred to Right State, and he had an awesome,
Speaker 5: you know, junior senior year at Right State. So, like,
Speaker 5: he can catch, but I think he's probably best case
Speaker 5: he's a second catcher on a team, and potentially this
Speaker 5: is a weird, unique situation that very few teams roll with.
Speaker 3: But like I could see a.
Speaker 5: World where he's a third, a tertiary catcher while playing
Speaker 5: some left field and or first base against right handed pitch.
Speaker 5: It's a unique profile, not one that's like somebody you're
Speaker 5: dreaming on. But he's had one of the best hitting
Speaker 5: seasons in all of my League Baseballs year, and you
Speaker 5: can't deny that so far, right.
Speaker 4: So well, And I know that the Mariners always kind
Speaker 4: of open minded to these like versatility, unique opportunity type
Speaker 4: of guys. When Grant knapu and unfortunately got hurt or
Speaker 4: I think that's the right guy I'm thinking of, but
Speaker 4: that they were like willing to have him kind of
Speaker 4: pitch in hit. They were like they were checking both
Speaker 4: things out, seeing what could happened there. He was a
Speaker 4: catcher who was also pitching. Now they're like, we'll let
Speaker 4: you swing it as a DH but maybe also still pitch.
Speaker 4: Like they're open minded with stuff. We saw them do
Speaker 4: stuff with Harry Ford. We seen them move Michael Royo
Speaker 4: all over the place like they're going to be open minded.
Speaker 4: But ultimately it all comes down to whether Boston Smith hits.
Speaker 4: And Boston Smith has hit a ton this year. There's
Speaker 4: swing and miss, so that's gonna be the thing to monitor.
Speaker 4: But he's making the leap up from mid major baseball
Speaker 4: and has climbed three levels right He started a low A,
Speaker 4: briefly got up to High A, demolished there, and he's
Speaker 4: holding his own in double A. So some of the
Speaker 4: underlying whift can normalize a bit as he's just kind
Speaker 4: of been thrown right into the deep end, and even
Speaker 4: that he's been extremely productive. So I think a pretty
Speaker 4: good get, you know, for the Mariners here in a
Speaker 4: deal that really when it's salary dump both ways to
Speaker 4: be able to snag a prospect you go into the Mariners.
Speaker 1: Not bad at all.
Speaker 5: The frustrating thing for me on the White Sox ender
Speaker 5: this deal and the reason I didn't love it at
Speaker 5: first glance, so it's grown on me a little bit.
Speaker 5: It's just like the entire twenty five million for Castio
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty seven is a little.
Speaker 3: Hard to stomach.
Speaker 5: And obviously you're getting off of twelve million they would
Speaker 5: have vowed to Anthony de Bingez between the option and
Speaker 5: then potentially he would have added buy out the next
Speaker 5: year too, So like it basically is thirteen more million
Speaker 5: dollars on the books next year and changing Sir Anthony
Speaker 5: for Castillo. I hope Luis Castillo can turn back the
Speaker 5: clock more. I just I don't know how much is
Speaker 5: in the tank for a guy you're now committed to
Speaker 5: twenty five million next year with a vesting option for
Speaker 5: twenty five following year. So if he somehow is I mean,
Speaker 5: let's say he's serviceable and he pitches one hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty innings in twenty twenty seven, you got another twenty
Speaker 5: five million on the books in twenty twenty eight. I
Speaker 5: just I thought, especially when you're giving up at least
Speaker 5: a decent prospect and an interesting one in Boston Smith,
Speaker 5: I would have thought there would at least been some
Speaker 5: money offset on the Castio side of this. And that's
Speaker 5: where this trade lost me a little bit, just from
Speaker 5: that aspect of the financial commitment for the White Sox.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when sending Smith, I thought that was the
Speaker 4: interesting part of it too, Not that he's super super valuous.
Speaker 4: You'd stays signed for fifty thousand dollars. Still, he's not
Speaker 4: not worthless. I think the other interesting part too, is
Speaker 4: what I said with Guestio is like if they if
Speaker 4: they went out and got another arm, I'd like this
Speaker 4: deal more because as much as Gestio seems like a
Speaker 4: guy that you have some injury concerns with, because I
Speaker 4: feel like that's always hovered over him. His contracts literally
Speaker 4: has a clause in it if he gets hurt. He's
Speaker 4: been an inning Zeter for the last four plus years,
Speaker 4: one hundred ninety seven innings in twenty twenty three, one
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy five innings and twenty twenty four one
Speaker 4: hundred eighty nings and twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And if not for the piggyback thing, he's been available
Speaker 1: all year. He's it one hundred innings already this year.
Speaker 4: So if he was like your innings Zeter for next year,
Speaker 4: because there's so many young and your uncertain arms situation wise,
Speaker 4: you know, with the White.
Speaker 1: Sox, I'd be cool with that.
Speaker 4: They didn't go get that other arm, and that was
Speaker 4: kind of the frustrating part for me. But I still
Speaker 4: think like, if he's a four something el, he's a veteran,
Speaker 4: he's been there.
Speaker 1: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: What's funny is if he's exactly this or a little
Speaker 4: bit better, you can't let him hit that vesting option
Speaker 4: next year. Again, it did lose game no, but that'll
Speaker 4: be a funny circumstance to watch.
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting. I agree with you.
Speaker 5: I thought there was another arm coming for the White Sox.
Speaker 5: I did, and I think they were trying. From everything
Speaker 5: I've heard, it just it was is ultimately like there
Speaker 5: was only a couple of prospects that teams were particularly
Speaker 5: asking about for them, white sox, fur, control of arms
Speaker 5: like Reid Detmers, and they weren't trading those. I've gone
Speaker 5: on record sing I wouldn't Tradekaala Bontober. I know we
Speaker 5: slightly differ on our Kayla Botomber stances. But like they
Speaker 5: they weren't moving Bottomer for the for the people that
Speaker 5: were available.
Speaker 3: I'll put it that way. For the for the pictures available,
Speaker 3: they weren't going to move Bomber.
Speaker 4: The guy I said I'd move him forward didn't even
Speaker 4: get to end up getting moved. So it sounds like
Speaker 4: the asking price would have been pretty crazy for like
Speaker 4: a raid det Merce.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, it seems like the price was Bottomer and
Speaker 5: significantly more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you lose me.
Speaker 3: That that's where you lose me personally. So I think
Speaker 3: the I my opinion with that one.
Speaker 5: I think the Angels just I think they overplayed, and
Speaker 5: that's Detmers didn't go anywhere because I think they wanted
Speaker 5: more than Soriano and you guys talk about on the
Speaker 5: next episode, but like wanting significantly more than the Soreano
Speaker 5: deal for debt meers I'm out on that from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that side of things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you look at some of the rental deals,
Speaker 4: like I don't know if the White Sox don't need
Speaker 4: to be going to too heavy into rentals.
Speaker 1: That's so I get, that's what I ended.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Smith not a bad get for the Mariners who
Speaker 4: kind of bought sold and add another another little prospect.
Speaker 1: In no doubt.
Speaker 5: Next trade up is for a rental Freddy Peralta going
Speaker 5: over to the Rays. And this is what I'm curious
Speaker 5: to see because I'm looking forward to seeing what the
Speaker 5: race potentially do with the Peralta and seeing where that goes.
Speaker 5: But they trio of prospects going over to the Mets
Speaker 5: in this deal, Aiden Smith, a Million, Pittree, and Gary Garhill.
Speaker 5: You got an outfielder in Smith, an infielder in Pittree,
Speaker 5: and then a pitcher in gar Hill or gil Hill. Sorry,
Speaker 5: all three fascinating names and all names of relevance. And
Speaker 5: I think, like you look at the rankings and you
Speaker 5: say like, oh, like these are all whatever guys.
Speaker 3: This is the race system.
Speaker 5: Let's not forget like all three of these guys being
Speaker 5: ranked at all in the RAIS system. And they might
Speaker 5: not exact been ranked on our update, but like they're
Speaker 5: all three at least come with some intrigue. So you
Speaker 5: start with whoever you want and I will fill the
Speaker 5: gaps from there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I think the big thing here is,
Speaker 4: like a year ago, Aiden Smith is probably the headliner
Speaker 4: and instead he might be the tertiary piece here, so
Speaker 4: I'll finish with him.
Speaker 1: Petrie is interesting because he was a.
Speaker 4: Guy that, like Ceiling Limited, you kind of wondered what
Speaker 4: he would be, but has really taken a huge step
Speaker 4: forward this year while making that leap up from High
Speaker 4: A to Double A. I love like we're gonna talk
Speaker 4: about some trades later, like Brandon Taylor who was traded
Speaker 4: to the Marlins and the Liam hicksteal. I am a
Speaker 4: lot more skeptical when it's your third taste of Double
Speaker 4: A and things click, when things really click, and you
Speaker 4: make a leap when you're getting your first taste of
Speaker 4: a new level, that really tells me that something's you know,
Speaker 4: come together for you as a player. And of course
Speaker 4: was underlying data video A lot more that goes into it,
Speaker 4: but on the surface, I think it's important that Petrie
Speaker 4: makes this leap where at the start of the year,
Speaker 4: he was at High A, making his getting his second
Speaker 4: taste of the level. Right, you play one hundred eighteen
Speaker 4: games a high end twenty twenty five fifty one games
Speaker 4: to start the year there, and he was good. He
Speaker 4: gets at the double A this year after the fifty
Speaker 4: one games to start the season, where I'm taking it
Speaker 4: with a grand of salt, and he's been better at
Speaker 4: Double A. And that's where it's like, Okay, you've got
Speaker 4: my attention now. The ball is flying in the Southern
Speaker 4: League more than it ever has. It's flying everywhere in
Speaker 4: the minor league more than it ever has, except aside
Speaker 4: from TRIPAA. But that's not Petris game anyways. It only
Speaker 4: has three homers in thirty seven games. What stands out
Speaker 4: to me is he's walking eighteen percent of the time.
Speaker 4: He's striking out ten percent of the time. He's sitting
Speaker 4: three twenty three with a one to fifty five WRC plus,
Speaker 4: and that's the game for him. He's a second basement
Speaker 4: that I think can actually plays some solid defense over there.
Speaker 4: He's a it's plus back to the ball in play
Speaker 4: discipline and you pair that.
Speaker 1: With gap to gap that's gonna play it well.
Speaker 4: Enough, so I think this is a high probability big
Speaker 4: league regular at second base, and you're pairing decent enough
Speaker 4: wheels to give at least some value on the base pats,
Speaker 4: and I think this could be a solid regular at
Speaker 4: second base. And again, twenty three years old, gonna be
Speaker 4: two four soon, so the fact that he's succeeding now
Speaker 4: at the upper levels is big. But I liked that
Speaker 4: addition here for them because I think we will need
Speaker 4: to realize, like Freddie Peralta has been putrid this year
Speaker 4: and like he might be better. I liked the idea
Speaker 4: of getting in with a new set of eyes, because
Speaker 4: every pitcher is hit a wall, it seemingly in Queens,
Speaker 4: but thirty five percent in zone ran on all of
Speaker 4: his secondary is a chance he just isn't doesn't have
Speaker 4: it for ten starts. So to get Petri there there,
Speaker 4: I think was what was a fun start and a
Speaker 4: guy that I do think is going to fill a
Speaker 4: big league role and could be an above average regular.
Speaker 3: I like Patri a lot.
Speaker 5: I thought it's been a really impressive year from him, honestly,
Speaker 5: and watching him up in High A and then now
Speaker 5: making the transition of Double A and being even better too,
Speaker 5: Like just from a from a you know, approach standpoint.
Speaker 5: He was always a good bats to ball guy. But
Speaker 5: like going from last year and you know, at the
Speaker 5: in Hia the entire year being I who was at
Speaker 5: an eleven percent walk rate twenty percent strikeout rate. Now
Speaker 5: he basically flipped it this season at both High A
Speaker 5: and Double A now to be at eighteen percent walk
Speaker 5: and only a ten percent strike out rate, holding exactly
Speaker 5: the same rates at High A and now Double A
Speaker 5: through thirty plus games at each, Like I think there's
Speaker 5: some real injury there. And then it's not like you
Speaker 5: got two bad pieces behind it. I mean you can
Speaker 5: hit on it. But like Gil Hill is an interesting
Speaker 5: arm that was got. You've got a lot of hype
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, and he hasn't quite developed
Speaker 5: smoothly so far, but like there's still some juice there.
Speaker 5: There's some good stuff and even Aiden Smith, like there's
Speaker 5: a lot of tools, there's some good defense in the outfield.
Speaker 5: Like I actually thought for a rental this was one
Speaker 5: of the better overall packages.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought, like the floor like where Gil Hill,
Speaker 4: like I don't, I don't know if he's got how
Speaker 4: many if he's gonna miss enough bats to be you
Speaker 4: know the picture that I think some thought he could
Speaker 4: be at the lower levels.
Speaker 1: But a big reason this happens a lot.
Speaker 4: With with the evaluation of these lower level guys is
Speaker 4: the super advanced strike throwers who strike out more guys
Speaker 4: than you'd think. Because it's low A, maybe we think
Speaker 4: the stuff's a little bit better and we overvalue them
Speaker 4: a little bit, and then we overcorrect later on with
Speaker 4: Gil Hill, like this is a strike thrower who did
Speaker 4: I think overwhelmlowe hitters to a degree because us they
Speaker 4: just easily just fill up the zone with a good
Speaker 4: pitch mix and hit his spots. But then as he
Speaker 4: got to Hi A in a little bit of double A,
Speaker 4: especially at double I think those hitters.
Speaker 1: Were a little bit more disciplined.
Speaker 4: They're they're on stuff a little bit more and you're
Speaker 4: not getting the whiffs that you needed. So that's gonna
Speaker 4: be the big thing to monitor with him. But the
Speaker 4: villa is steadily ticked up. He's still sitting ninety four
Speaker 4: and change with the four seemer two seamers.
Speaker 1: Sits just shy of ninety four.
Speaker 4: Just a ridiculous amount of strikes though, and That's the
Speaker 4: reason for me is like, at worst you got a
Speaker 4: depth arm, there's still so much value and got to
Speaker 4: just throw a ton of strikes. He's still just twenty
Speaker 4: one years old, so if you can find a little
Speaker 4: bit more whiff in there, whether it's adjusting the change up,
Speaker 4: just finding a way to get some more swing and miss.
Speaker 4: But regardless skill, Hill at least looks like a depth
Speaker 4: arm and I think has a good chance to land
Speaker 4: as a number five starter that can eat innings for you.
Speaker 4: I think the big X factor in the Steel is
Speaker 4: Aiden Smith, who comes in as a project for you.
Speaker 1: He was including the Randy Rose Rana deal if you remember, at.
Speaker 4: One point, has a lot of power, speed, excite around him,
Speaker 4: but it's just really hit a wall over the last
Speaker 4: year and a half. So that'll be the project for
Speaker 4: the Mets and we'll see if they can, you know,
Speaker 4: help try to get Smith right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's I think it's a pretty well
Speaker 5: run in package. It's you get a blat, you get
Speaker 5: the high four Nye Petrie, you get a strike thrower,
Speaker 5: depth armon and Hill that maybe there's a little more
Speaker 5: fine and then, like you said, Smith has been rough,
Speaker 5: but there's still enough tools there to be like, let's
Speaker 5: give him a year or two and see what happens
Speaker 5: and take a stab. And for Parlto, who, like you
Speaker 5: said it earlier, like hasn't been good and you're getting
Speaker 5: ten starts of Parlto.
Speaker 3: So for the Rays it doesn't hurt them because their
Speaker 3: system is so deep.
Speaker 5: But for the Mets, I think this is just about
Speaker 5: as good as you could have expected, honestly from a
Speaker 5: Parla deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's a good cash in on
Speaker 4: a guy having a big year, and and Petrie and
Speaker 4: and Gil Hill, a guy that you know also could
Speaker 4: I if it doesn't progress the way that you want,
Speaker 4: could continue to.
Speaker 1: Lose a little bit of value.
Speaker 4: But I think that's a guy that a lot of
Speaker 4: teams would still probably want just because of the floor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a handful of more smaller deals here
Speaker 5: to finish up on.
Speaker 3: But let's take one more quick break.
Speaker 5: All right, we got five more kind of smaller trades
Speaker 5: that we can breeze through here. Of these pre deadline
Speaker 5: day deals you and Jack are going to handle the
Speaker 5: actual day of deadline. We'll start with the Lane Thomas
Speaker 5: and Bailey Falter deal because I personally wouldn't have really
Speaker 5: thought Lane Thomas and Bailey Falter would necessarily met Kansas
Speaker 5: City a pretty interesting prospect. But they get back a
Speaker 5: pair of prospects in Lucas Braun and Carter Holton from
Speaker 5: the Royals or to go to the Royals from the Braves,
Speaker 5: and it's an interesting duo. And Braun someone that we
Speaker 5: highlighted on the heat sheet actually about a month ago,
Speaker 5: and honestly, I think is the headliner here. And it's
Speaker 5: a pretty good get for guys in Lane Thomas and Falter,
Speaker 5: and look, Brown's got some injury.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bron's a nice nice get for them. And I think,
Speaker 4: you know, just in a market where right an any
Speaker 4: right handed bats at least going to get you something interesting,
Speaker 4: Laane Thomas hits the short side of the platoon and
Speaker 4: then they get, you know, in just such a classic
Speaker 4: Braves trade and they get, you know, just a depth
Speaker 4: arm and Falter. But I think with what you're getting
Speaker 4: from Lucas Broun is is fun because I think it's
Speaker 4: a guy that can miss enough barrels to eat innings
Speaker 4: for you, and you'll get the workload that he's been
Speaker 4: able to have a year over year over year. Here
Speaker 4: at twenty twenty four for the minor leagues, like one
Speaker 4: hundred and forty three and two thirds innings, twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five hundred and thirty and two thirds innings, or twenty
Speaker 4: twenty twenty twenty five, excuse me, one hundred and forty
Speaker 4: nine and two thirds innings, and then this year ninety
Speaker 4: four innings.
Speaker 1: So far.
Speaker 4: Now nothing jumps off the page, but you look, it's
Speaker 4: just been consistent. He doesn't walk guys, he gets enough
Speaker 4: week contact and you know at the lower levels miss
Speaker 4: more Bats hasn't done it at the same level in
Speaker 4: the upper levels, but that'll probably be the big thing
Speaker 4: to monitor. But what I like with bron is just
Speaker 4: he looks again, another guy that at least could be
Speaker 4: a depth arm for you, and still has enough in
Speaker 4: there where you could see, like, hey, you could settle
Speaker 4: in as that ennings eating five starter. So I think
Speaker 4: that's not a bad get at all. And it's not
Speaker 4: like you're saying that about a guy that's far off right.
Speaker 4: This is somebody that's already on triple A and holding
Speaker 4: his own enough there, so if he can just improve
Speaker 4: a bit more command wise and triple I think the stuff.
Speaker 4: It's been a bit more subdued as he's adjusted to
Speaker 4: the triple A ball. I think it's a guy that
Speaker 4: could be up there and help grab innings for them
Speaker 4: and at least be a spot starter. I think that's
Speaker 4: the most likely outcome, is kind of a spot starter
Speaker 4: depth arm. But there's still room to be able to
Speaker 4: grab that number five spot here for Broun. Who I mean,
Speaker 4: the Royals they're delusional, just candidly they're delusional. So for
Speaker 4: a team that thinks it can be right back in it,
Speaker 4: you trade a rental for somebody that at least can
Speaker 4: plug and play and give you some depth for next season.
Speaker 4: Holton is a guy was admittedly more excited about before.
Speaker 1: Like he has hit a little bit.
Speaker 4: Of a wall, but it's still you know, a left
Speaker 4: handed pitching prospect here that old You want to see
Speaker 4: him kind of start to put things together. But you
Speaker 4: look at the field to spin it. It's a pretty
Speaker 4: good curveball, a decent slider and hopefully something can come
Speaker 4: along there, but kind of just a decent flyer throwing
Speaker 4: to see if he can be a late bloomer lefty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he stick him in the bolt and potentially if
Speaker 5: you want to move him a little quicker given his age,
Speaker 5: see what happens there's at least some injury. But honestly,
Speaker 5: I thought Broun was a pretty good get given that
Speaker 5: Laine Thomas and Bailey Falter are not part of the
Speaker 5: future in Kainsat City obviously, so if Braun can be
Speaker 5: a five starter for you.
Speaker 1: Then great. Yeah. And Falter's hardly part of the present,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that true doesn't.
Speaker 3: Hurt, hardly part of the president. I gotta save that one.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 5: The next trade up is another White Sox one. The
Speaker 5: Mets Sendascar Braza Band over to the White Sox, who
Speaker 5: I don't think i've ever seen, for the record, a
Speaker 5: thirty six year old with three and a half years
Speaker 5: of arm control.
Speaker 3: Still one of the craziest.
Speaker 5: Things ever to have a guy through arbitration through his
Speaker 5: age forty season, potentially pretty insane. But the White Sox
Speaker 5: got controllable, versatile bullpen arm in this deal, sending Gabe
Speaker 5: Davis and Zach Franklin to the Mets. I talked to
Speaker 5: our guy Ryan Thinklesen about it after, because I know
Speaker 5: he was curious about the soop on Gabe Davis.
Speaker 3: I love the dart throw for the Mets because Gabe
Speaker 3: Davis is.
Speaker 5: A guy that like might not make the bigs, but
Speaker 5: he's also a six' nine guy with not a ton
Speaker 5: of wear on his, arm who's had a couple of
Speaker 5: injury issues in, college but like there's some stuff. There
Speaker 5: he looked really good out of the gate this, season
Speaker 5: gets a really quick promotion To DOUBLE a in his
Speaker 5: first pro season and has really struggled In DOUBLE. A
Speaker 5: found it a little bit, lately but there's some intrig.
Speaker 5: Here he was about to BE i think we were
Speaker 5: working on our future socks and THE jv list as
Speaker 5: well for AND i think he was gonna be about
Speaker 5: twelve in The.
Speaker 3: White sox system for.
Speaker 5: Us so he was in that ten to fifteen range
Speaker 5: in The White sox, system and that was kind of
Speaker 5: the guys.
Speaker 3: That were looking to. Move davis is. Interesting he might
Speaker 3: not ever be.
Speaker 5: Anything he probably ends up in the, bullpen but there's
Speaker 5: some serious stuff for a six nine right hander who
Speaker 5: was a fifth round pick last.
Speaker 4: Year, yeah AND i Think brazaban like good get for
Speaker 4: The White. Sox like he's just gonna go and just
Speaker 4: miss barrels and get ground balls until he's forty and
Speaker 4: unfortunately not make a ton of money doing.
Speaker 1: It but you know, what he's making a million dollars
Speaker 1: with in the Dream. BRAZABON i remember when he was
Speaker 1: with The.
Speaker 4: Borrowings, Dude i'd go to spring training and one of
Speaker 4: the first questions to start at spring training would always
Speaker 4: be Where's Wasascar?
Speaker 1: Brasubon like is he in the?
Speaker 4: Country because he would every single year you'd go back
Speaker 4: home for whatever, reason there'd Be v's issues coming, back
Speaker 4: so he would always get a super late start to the.
Speaker 1: SEASON i think that he missed portions of.
Speaker 4: SEASONS i gotta ask you why about this with fish on,
Speaker 4: First AND i know he'll remember this even more specifically than,
Speaker 4: me BUT i think that also didn't urt so you
Speaker 4: already had like this crazy late bloomer and then he
Speaker 4: would just he would have challenges to get back. Here
Speaker 4: AND i just, remember like multiple, years like the first
Speaker 4: question would always be where's bras a?
Speaker 1: Band but he has really settled.
Speaker 4: In in his thirties and turned into a decent trade
Speaker 4: chip for The.
Speaker 1: Mets but, Yeah davis is the fun.
Speaker 4: One because so OFTEN i feel like you see these
Speaker 4: super tall guys that don't get any, extension AND i get.
Speaker 1: It it's really hard when you're that tall to then
Speaker 1: work your way down the. Mount davis is not one of.
Speaker 4: Those he's getting seven feet plus extension and at ninety
Speaker 4: six miles an hour with the stuff like it kind
Speaker 4: of looks like it's coming from the, sky and then
Speaker 4: the breaking ball working off of, that you, KNOW i
Speaker 4: think could be.
Speaker 1: Effective he ends up getting.
Speaker 4: More, horizontal but if he can get something that works
Speaker 4: a little bit more, vertically that could be really. Interesting
Speaker 4: AND i think it's a fun flyer to. TAKE i
Speaker 4: was curious to, like how would you map out the two,
Speaker 4: Prospects like how far apart are they with.
Speaker 3: What davis And.
Speaker 5: Franklin, Yeah, franklin some people LIKE i never have seen
Speaker 5: it come to. Fruition he's got a fun to pitch bullpen.
Speaker 5: MIX i just think, That, LIKE i think there's more
Speaker 5: intrigue With davis for. Sure BUT i wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 5: if The mets Id'd franklin as someone that they think
Speaker 5: they can get more out, of BECAUSE i had heard
Speaker 5: that a couple times before and it just hasn't really
Speaker 5: happened in the past couple of years in terms of. Production
Speaker 5: But franklin was definitely an interesting name in the organization of,
Speaker 5: like oh this guy like could be kind of fun
Speaker 5: out of the.
Speaker 3: Bullpen there's something.
Speaker 5: There So i'm guessing The mets saw him as a
Speaker 5: little bit more than just purely a. Flyer BUT i
Speaker 5: do Think davis is the get in this.
Speaker 4: Trait, yeah so, Considerably like at least there's a there's
Speaker 4: a decent gap.
Speaker 1: Yet, YEAH i.
Speaker 4: Will say at least with with With, franklin like a
Speaker 4: lot of. Strikes you, know you've grown and it's slightly
Speaker 4: low release sight above, average carry a lot of. Strikes,
Speaker 4: yeah maybe there's something that they think they can unlock.
Speaker 5: There With, yeah the fastball is good in the, secondary
Speaker 5: just han't quite come. Along the fastball has always had
Speaker 5: a lot of get up on. It so interesting, Yet but,
Speaker 5: AGAIN I i think this makes sense for both. Teams
Speaker 5: brazenbond given his, AGE i know there's control, there so
Speaker 5: you wanted to get something. Good BUT i think for
Speaker 5: The met's getting, it getting to take a dart throw
Speaker 5: at a guy Like davis worth it and there in their.
Speaker 5: Circumstance next trade up is the Fascinating angels. Trade there
Speaker 5: was a couple of Interesting Angels. Ones this one was
Speaker 5: The logan o' hoppy And Chase silseth trade going over
Speaker 5: to The rangers in exchange for on Hell Aron.
Speaker 3: Dundo who was? OUTSIDE i HOPE i got that. RIGHT
Speaker 3: i THINK I I i was close.
Speaker 5: There who's outside the top thirty most places for you,
Speaker 5: know for The. Rangers it's pretty rare to see a
Speaker 5: trade get reception of like, Who, like who's this traded? For? Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: LIKE i don't know who this? Is nineteen year old
Speaker 5: From mexico who is an international? Signing then in this,
Speaker 5: deal just a singular prospect for two big, LEAGUERS i,
Speaker 5: know not necessarily the most exciting big, leaguers but two
Speaker 5: big leaguers going over To texas for a low a.
Speaker 5: Prospect who's what, played you, know a handful of. Games
Speaker 5: he's been in single ay all, year he was in
Speaker 5: he split between the comp and single way last.
Speaker 3: Year what you got On Aaron?
Speaker 4: Dondo, yeah Mozae lock came out and said they've got
Speaker 4: him as a top ten, system which is.
Speaker 1: FUNNY a couple of layers to this.
Speaker 4: ONE i think there's a middle ground between what Mozae
Speaker 4: lock said and what the public has.
Speaker 1: Said LIKE i think we saw some people like who
Speaker 1: the hell is? That like what are they? Doing blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: BLAH i think we saw, mo you, know handle the
Speaker 4: rest of the deadline pretty, Well like this isn't this
Speaker 4: wasn't Classic. Gangs we're gonna talk about the other, deals
Speaker 4: like was it The angels are another organization that was not,
Speaker 4: operating like just just not making. Moves no process that
Speaker 4: now is operating had a process, here but this was
Speaker 4: the first. Move SO i think immediately everyone's, like, oh Classic.
Speaker 4: ANGELS i think there's something. Here and in terms of
Speaker 4: the glove is good and and if you're getting a
Speaker 4: really good glove at, shortstop which looks like not only
Speaker 4: can he stick, there like you could potentially be above average,
Speaker 4: there but also like they could just move them all
Speaker 4: over like they've been playing them a lot at, Third
Speaker 4: like it just seems like it's an above average to
Speaker 4: well above average glove wherever you play, them and it's
Speaker 4: been a lot more at so maybe it's plus. There
Speaker 4: BUT i think the glove and, aggregate like if it's
Speaker 4: above average it short or average it, short and then
Speaker 4: plus it at second.
Speaker 1: And plus at, third that's somewhat. Valuable.
Speaker 4: Uh you also look at the power uptick this, year
Speaker 4: like this is a kid that at nineteen years old
Speaker 4: grew into his body a little bit. More eight homers
Speaker 4: in eighty seven games at LOW, a whereas the year
Speaker 4: prior at The complex and LOW a he hit zero
Speaker 4: in forty six. Games, like clearly a kid that got more.
Speaker 4: Physical SO i think that's solid as well because the
Speaker 4: bats of ball is good eighty percent contact, rate super,
Speaker 4: paced patient, approach twenty percent chase fifteen percent chase on.
Speaker 4: Spin SO i think they're seeing a guy that just
Speaker 4: has a really high floor relative to what you would
Speaker 4: expect from most other lower level. Guys the other thing
Speaker 4: Is logan o' hoppy's, worthless AND i think that it's,
Speaker 4: unfortunate but he's, Worthless.
Speaker 1: Like he was a guy that was a BORDERLINE dfa.
Speaker 4: Candidate to, me this was more of just so seth for,
Speaker 4: Him oh hop kind of a throw in to just
Speaker 4: save the paperwork of having TO dfa and then claim or,
Speaker 4: whatever like they could use a plug in catcher and
Speaker 4: they did and they immediately option option. Him, Anyways Oh
Speaker 4: happy's a liability on both sides of the. Ball, unfortunately
Speaker 4: at this, point and he's not. Free he's two point
Speaker 4: sixty five million. Dollars so this trade save The angels
Speaker 4: a million bucks for whatever it's, worth and they got
Speaker 4: a decent.
Speaker 1: PROSPECT i actually think he's top thirty. Worthy i'll say.
Speaker 3: That, yeah all, right there you.
Speaker 5: Go that's a that's a that's better THAN i think
Speaker 5: some other things we've. Seen SO i think that's a
Speaker 5: fair get makes. Sense let the let The angels, cook.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah this one was this one made this one made.
Speaker 5: SENSE i don't THINK i don't think this one was
Speaker 5: anything to throw a fit about it at. All two
Speaker 5: more small ones here to finish up. On Aj minter
Speaker 5: goes from The mets over to The. Twins twins did
Speaker 5: a little bit of, buying which is. Interesting it's gonna
Speaker 5: make for a fun al central with The, Twins, guardians
Speaker 5: And White sox all significantly making buying. Moves Billy ammock
Speaker 5: And Ruin agbayani go over to The mets.
Speaker 3: ORGANIZATION i THINK i got that.
Speaker 5: One go over to The mets in exchange for Aj,
Speaker 5: minter who has been a solid veteran left handed reliever
Speaker 5: for many years now and has continued to be such
Speaker 5: but a pair of guys going over to The. Mets
Speaker 5: either of these two jump. Out do you Know ams
Speaker 5: got a little more name. Value seems like A gogani
Speaker 5: might have a little more upside. Intrigue worry about with
Speaker 5: these two guys that The mets get for a rental.
Speaker 4: And mintor, yeah you, know at the end of the,
Speaker 4: day you were not going to get anything crazy for you,
Speaker 4: know a relief rental and and you, KNOW i thought
Speaker 4: The twins should, sell But i'm never going to be
Speaker 4: upset when they when a team, buys especially new, Ownership
Speaker 4: twins fans.
Speaker 1: Deserve, it Like i'm glad they're going for, it you.
Speaker 4: Know and and with the additions they, made why can't
Speaker 4: they sneak their way into this conversation in the wild?
Speaker 4: Card so and this is another bullpen where it's like anybody.
Speaker 4: Helps So minster certainly helps, there uh amis and probably
Speaker 4: the more popular like headline or. GUY i Think agniani
Speaker 4: can end up being like.
Speaker 1: The more well rounded.
Speaker 4: Player But AMI's been really productive since BEING i didn't
Speaker 4: love them out of the. DRAFT i thought there's can
Speaker 4: too much swing and, miss and he's made more contact
Speaker 4: THAN i thought he. Would but at the same in
Speaker 4: terms of like the surface level, numbers but it's still
Speaker 4: been the same concerns that we're seeing beneath the. Hood
Speaker 4: sixty one percent contact traits not going to play, unfortunately
Speaker 4: especially as you start to climb closer to the big.
Speaker 4: Leagues but, maybe you, know if they, can if The
Speaker 4: mets can close the gap on the whiff a little bit,
Speaker 4: there that can help twenty three homers in eighty six
Speaker 4: games is you, know is solid and DOUBLE. A but,
Speaker 4: again it's just the big issue is just way too
Speaker 4: much swing and miss for a guy that's you, know
Speaker 4: limited defensively and more likely a first. BASEMAN i think
Speaker 4: Getting agbiyani on top is interesting because that's probably the
Speaker 4: guy that you're just hoping progresses into more great feel to.
Speaker 1: HIT i, mean we're talking about.
Speaker 4: A really, good a really good bat to ball ability
Speaker 4: already for a guy that's just turned nineteen years. Old
Speaker 4: now he's still trying to convert that into more consistent
Speaker 4: production and still trying to grow into more, power and
Speaker 4: he's going to be more of a project and we'll,
Speaker 4: see you, know, defensively where he ends up is probably
Speaker 4: more likely going to be his second. Base but you're
Speaker 4: getting a guy with advanced bats to ball skills in
Speaker 4: nineteen years. OLD i venture to guess That agbayani ends
Speaker 4: up being the better player in this deal and has
Speaker 4: a lot more time to you, know add power to
Speaker 4: a solid bats of ball, profile whereas you, Know, amic
Speaker 4: you're just kind of praying for a miracle that he
Speaker 4: can improve upon his.
Speaker 1: Contacts.
Speaker 5: Yeah amic's an interesting case too because last year In
Speaker 5: hi am talking about a guy that was hitting three
Speaker 5: ten with a four hundred PLUS obp but only four,
Speaker 5: homers and then he was still striking out a, lot
Speaker 5: but he was getting on base a. Ton and then
Speaker 5: this year he's hitting two seventeen In DOUBLE a but
Speaker 5: with twenty three. Homers it's an interesting like it's like
Speaker 5: his bad average and his contact and is just on
Speaker 5: base dropped a, ton but now he's adding for a
Speaker 5: lot of, Power so like there's at least something there
Speaker 5: if you can find the middle ground maybe between the.
Speaker 5: Two Whereas, AGBUNYANI i, think is the more exciting, guy
Speaker 5: like you, mentioned there's a little more, like, oh let's
Speaker 5: take a shot and ultimately for a reliever Rental LIKE
Speaker 5: i feel like either of the combination of those two
Speaker 5: profiles is a pretty good get for a rental.
Speaker 4: Reliever, yeah absolutely and Am, yeah the contact trate drop
Speaker 4: by five, percent but the average exablosity went up three
Speaker 4: percent or three miles per, hour so you'll take that.
Speaker 4: Exchange but he didn't have much room to give up
Speaker 4: anything on the contact, department so we'll.
Speaker 1: See but not.
Speaker 5: Bad, yeah last trade to talk about, here another small little.
Speaker 5: One Dean, kramer also speaking of The Minnesota, twins goes
Speaker 5: to The. TWINS i know you like this one.
Speaker 3: Even a little. More Jum. NARDO i Believe Nardo reis
Speaker 3: is What i'm gonna go. WITH i think that's. RIGHT
Speaker 3: i Think i'd be.
Speaker 1: WRONG i do scratch, Yeah, NARDO i think, YEAH i Think.
Speaker 5: NARDO i THINK i. WAS i was prepping with some
Speaker 5: of these. Prospects some of these were not.
Speaker 3: Easy but that one is an interesting.
Speaker 5: One Dean, kramer, veteran you, know filling picture at the
Speaker 5: end of the, day, Right he's going to be back
Speaker 5: end rotation type of guy for The. Twins Whereas, REYS
Speaker 5: i think you put.
Speaker 3: Out something about.
Speaker 5: Him i'm curious to get more of your just take on,
Speaker 5: him because it does seem like kind of an interesting
Speaker 5: flyer here for For baltimore to.
Speaker 4: Get, Yeah i'm working on an article right now And
Speaker 4: i'll probably put out a few other things over the
Speaker 4: week or. So but also we're going to be very
Speaker 4: much In top one hundred update, mode but working on
Speaker 4: an article of like my favorite prospect returns from the,
Speaker 4: deadline and it's all, relative, Right it was just more
Speaker 4: of like what TEAMS i thought did the best with
Speaker 4: with the.
Speaker 1: Value that they, had and this is one of.
Speaker 4: Them LIKE i Mentioned Natalie rutchman and that, deal and
Speaker 4: also my favorite deal of the deadline is you know
Speaker 4: what The cardinals Him bloom and The cardinals did For
Speaker 4: Dustin may And Jojo. Romero BUT i think this was
Speaker 4: a really fun. Acquisition and this is where you have
Speaker 4: the two schools to, thought, right go high upside guy
Speaker 4: that's further, off or the higher floor guy that's that's
Speaker 4: not as far. Off But rayes is like that high
Speaker 4: upside guy that's further, off that like isn't as flawed
Speaker 4: AS i thought it would be WHEN i dug deeper
Speaker 4: beneath the, Hood like there's still so much that he
Speaker 4: needs to figure. Out but we're talking about a kid
Speaker 4: that really impressed in the in The Florida Complex league
Speaker 4: and now is settling into LOW, a but is eighteen years,
Speaker 4: old still super, projectible six three hundred and eighty. FIVE
Speaker 4: i like the swing, Already like the swing is already
Speaker 4: advanced where he's got this field to. Airpole, now the
Speaker 4: timing can be a little bit, inconsistent you, know the
Speaker 4: hands move a little bit.
Speaker 1: Late it's a leg kick, whatever he's a, kid they
Speaker 1: all everybody has those.
Speaker 4: Moves but where the swing path is already at, uh
Speaker 4: the athleticism kind of the fluidity and mobility in the box.
Speaker 1: Stands out to.
Speaker 4: Me he's already popped ex Of lasse's high as one
Speaker 4: ten good field to pull the ball in the air For.
Speaker 4: Reyis and again you look at sixty three one eighty.
Speaker 4: Five how much more can you physically dream? ON i
Speaker 4: think a lot gonna slide over to a corner, probably
Speaker 4: but you got a plus arm. There as he gets
Speaker 4: more just more. STRONG i think this is a very
Speaker 4: fun player to dream. On to get for a year
Speaker 4: and a quarter Of Dean, kramer and not to say
Speaker 4: it's a bad trade for The, Twins Like kramer is
Speaker 4: a track record of being way better than he's been this,
Speaker 4: year and if you get, endings it's fine and he's
Speaker 4: at the end of the, day there is a low way.
Speaker 1: Player but for the o's like For Dean, kramer there's
Speaker 1: a really, fun high upside. Acquisition.
Speaker 5: YEAH i WHEN i first saw the, TRADE i thought
Speaker 5: in my Head kramer was a. RENTAL i was, like,
Speaker 5: Okay and THEN i saw you mentioned, THIS i was,
Speaker 5: like this is a really nice little.
Speaker 3: Get if you're getting an eighteen year, old.
Speaker 5: Fun upside bat for a, rental it is a year
Speaker 5: and a, half, Right SO i think the extra year Of,
Speaker 5: kramer even if he's your five starting and he eats, innings,
Speaker 5: like there is some value in. That say it's wins
Speaker 5: some money of having to go out and fill a rotation,
Speaker 5: spot LIKE i think you could if you fill your,
Speaker 5: rotation you feel good about him not in the, rotation
Speaker 5: you could be a swing guy in the pen sixth
Speaker 5: and six starter, option, Right, like there's some value to
Speaker 5: having a guy Like kramer on your. Roster but it
Speaker 5: does sound like Wig rayis is at least like an
Speaker 5: interesting fun project to get in the system For baltimore
Speaker 5: and see what happens and hopefully and see a guy
Speaker 5: like where if you had to take like a rough,
Speaker 5: estimate like he slocked into their top thirty potentially just
Speaker 5: purely off the, like, yeah it seems like he could
Speaker 5: be a back after the top thirty guy hundred.
Speaker 4: PERCENT i THINK i think he sees in that hes
Speaker 4: in the top twenty. Range and it's tough because now
Speaker 4: THE os system is so nasty with.
Speaker 1: The trade that they way way.
Speaker 3: Better yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It was some of the trades that they. Made BUT
Speaker 4: i think HE'S i think he's closer to the twenty.
Speaker 3: Range.
Speaker 5: Yeah, SO i mean that's a guy for For Deean,
Speaker 5: kramer who wasn't part of the o's.
Speaker 3: Future that's for. Sure like it's a it's a guy for.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah SO i thought that was a pretty savvy gattis
Speaker 4: like obviously a good job on his. Returns it's not
Speaker 4: What orioles fans want to. Hear they've already had the
Speaker 4: best farm system ever like. That they don't care about.
Speaker 4: That but the guy that led the, charge the face
Speaker 4: of that best farm system ever is you, know playing
Speaker 4: for The Red sox. Today so, LIKE i know they
Speaker 4: don't want to hear, it but if you're gonna have
Speaker 4: to go through this, exercise it's not like they tore
Speaker 4: the whole thing, down and it's not like they don't
Speaker 4: have another catcher, there and then some of the smaller
Speaker 4: between the margin. MOVES i think they've done a really
Speaker 4: good job here to get some talent in the farm
Speaker 4: and maybe they, can you, know kind of circle back
Speaker 4: and still end up.
Speaker 1: Buying and making some moves in the.
Speaker 4: Offseason BUT i thought this was another just good farm,
Speaker 4: system depth upside type of play here for The ohs
Speaker 4: and a fun player to add to the. Fold that'll
Speaker 4: do it for for the first episode Of it's gonna
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Speaker 3: It's gotta be. Right there's too. Many there's too.
Speaker 5: MANY i mean the deadline day, itself there was teen
Speaker 5: to twenty prospect returns we got to talk.
Speaker 3: About so it'll probably end up being. Through but you
Speaker 3: guys got you And jack up part to, tomorrow so
Speaker 3: we'll keep it rolling And.
Speaker 1: I'm pumped on.
Speaker 4: It so many, deals so much fun to get into,
Speaker 4: THEM i, Honest so it gives me more time to
Speaker 4: just dig deeper into each of these prospect. Returns keeping
Speaker 4: out for the article on Just baseball dot com kind
Speaker 4: of my favorite deals and getting really granular on these,
Speaker 4: prospects and, yeah be sure to follow us on, socials
Speaker 4: putting a bunch of stuff out on that, front and
Speaker 4: we will have two more episodes breaking down the deadline
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