1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review London. Terry McLaurin signed 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: an extension. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and we also got a little preseason recap and. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: We got to get ready to cut down to fifty three. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: We'll do that with Logan Paulsen. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: Next. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Welcome into the debut edition of the twenty twenty five 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: season Booth Review podcast. I'm Bram Whiteside with Big Fletch 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: London Fletcher and we are in the Big Bear AI 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Command Center studio. 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 3: Preseason has done, London. 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Preseason is done, man, and you know what, preseason is necessary, 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: but I'm glad to fuck The regular season is upon us. 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: A lot to talk about, a lot to kind of 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: reflect on as we'll get ready for this the start 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty five season. 17 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the preseason a little bit 18 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: in camp and get ready for the season. But there's 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: really major news that occurred and I want to address 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: it with you. Yeah, just a little bit. Terry McLaurin 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: got a deal. It's been reported by Adam Schefter many 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: other insiders out there. It's not officially put out by 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: the team yet, and it's expected to be a three 24 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: year extend for him. So it puts to bed what 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: has been a long running storyline for the team, and 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: so he's back in the fold for now into the future. 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Two weeks away from the start of the regular season. 28 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: What was just your general reaction to hearing it. 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: I was thrilled to know that this thing had finally 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: gotten done, that they'd had a grade to an extension. 31 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: So I have so much respect for Terry as a player, 32 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: to respect for Terry as a person, respect for the organization, 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: respect for the front office, and also the ownership and 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: respect for the process to kind of wait and see 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: how things was going to go, let the process play out, 36 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: and I know I felt great confidence. I had confidence 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: that they would be able to come to an agreement, 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: and I'm stoked about it and happy to see a 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: seventeen back out on the field. 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I think what was really interesting about it for me 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: throughout the whole process was I think they both had 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: the same goal the whole time, Like he didn't really 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: want to go anywhere. He wants to be here, he 44 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: matters here, or he's part of us, and I think 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: the team and they don't say a lot publicly, but 46 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: they stated early in the spring, we want him to 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: be here for a long time. So this maybe lasted 48 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: a little bit longer than I ever thought it was 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: going to. And we can talk about maybe the impact 50 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: of what you think it did on training camp, but 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: like that's the only part of this that I think 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: was a surprise. I think they both wanted the same thing, 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: and I'm happy we got to it. Maybe a little 54 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: later than I thought they would, but but we got 55 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: to it. 56 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 57 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: And then I've been in my career been a part 58 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: of some negotiations, contract negotiations. 59 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: And they're not easy. 60 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: But the main thing that you touched on is they 61 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: wanted to get to this point. He wanted to be here. 62 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: They wanted him here. Now how do we get to 63 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: this point? That that took a little bit of maneuver 64 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: and things like that. But you know, just as as 65 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: you look at just Terry as a football player. Last year, 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: we know he set the franchise record and touchdowns catches. 67 00:02:59,400 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: In a season. 68 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: But since he's been here, he's been everything you want 69 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: to want from a football player. And I think even 70 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: though I was under a new, old regime and old coaches, 71 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: they recognize, Hey, that this is a guy that we 72 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: want to continue to be a part of our coach 73 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: our build what we're building here, and I'm glad it's 74 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: finally done. 75 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think to kind of bring it back to 76 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: camp a little bit. Noah Brown's been injured, so he's 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: been missing some time. Hopefully he's trending up. That looked good. 78 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: He was working out a pregame before the Ravens preseason finale, 79 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: so that's a good sign. Get him back out on the field. 80 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 5: Larry M. 81 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: Tunzel's been in and out of the lineup, Randon Coleman 82 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: in out of the lineup. It was nice to see 83 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: him playing that Ravens preseason finale. We're waiting on Sam Cosby. 84 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: The gang hasn't been together, and part of this was Terry. 85 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: We know what a big part of the offense that 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: he is. His return I think exponentially changes. Not that 87 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: I thought he was going anywhere, but him being happy 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: in the building and showing up on the field and 89 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: getting something that he wanted, security, money, whatever else. You know, 90 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: I think respect more than anything. It's a really big 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: deal that this did not linger into the regular step. 92 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because you know, you don't want you don't want 93 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: any player to be unhappy, especially a player that you're 94 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: going to you're counting on to be such a huge 95 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: part of not just your office, but just your team 96 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: in general. He's so well respected, so they understood that, 97 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: and you mentioned getting that done and the team not 98 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: really being together. So we're going to have to also 99 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: look at Week one against the New York Giants. We 100 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: got what thirteen days yeah, between now and you know, 101 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: the regular season opener. How getting them wrapped up and 102 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: ready for they open the season opener. We know he's 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: been doing things, just knowing he's a professional, I'm sure 104 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: he's been, you know, conditioning and doing the things as 105 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: much as possible to get himself ready. But there is 106 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: going to be a little time and adjustment, and there'll 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: be several practices between now and the season opening. But 108 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: you know, it's he makes such a big difference having 109 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: his presence on the football field. 110 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not worried about him being in shape. I'm 111 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: not worried about him being in the meetings and engaged 112 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I do wonder, having not practiced, 113 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: can we expect volume from him of plays that we 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: have grown accustomed to. He's rarely off the field for 115 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: this team, you know, over the last durable. 116 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: He's reliable in shape. 117 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Is the conditioning a question having not practiced for as 118 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: long as he has in practice. 119 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: I think just when you when you hear DQ talk 120 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: about all making sure they take the top of steps 121 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: in terms of returning to the field, and they have an 122 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: idea process that they go to to ramp up guys 123 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: to be ready to play in regular season games, to 124 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: be ready to even return to practice fully. 125 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: Colorful. 126 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: They'll have a bunch of different personnel groupings where Terry 127 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: will be on on the field, some he won't be 128 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: on the field, and that's just throughout the normal course 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: of a game. Will they have to make some adjustments, Well, 130 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: we three looked totally different from a volume standpoint the 131 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: week one. Probably we don't know that for certain, but 132 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll go about it the right way and 133 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: get it in terms of getting him ready to be 134 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: his best. 135 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk about him being happy and feeling 136 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: respected too. You're one of the players here that's up 137 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: in the ring of fame, right, one of the most 138 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: widely respected players that has put on this uniform for 139 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: a long time. I think he's trending that way too, 140 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: that if he were to play the bulk of his career, 141 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: potentially break records here. He already did one of them 142 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: that you mentioned before. He's going to be top three 143 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: if he plays out this contract in just about every category. 144 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: And we have Hall of Fame wide receivers like Art Monk, 145 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: who's getting honored this year, Charlie Taylor, others, Saint Hena 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Moss is getting honored. He's played in this uniform. I 147 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: wonder how you kind of think about legacy for him, 148 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: because that also, to me, has been something I've thought 149 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: a lot about during this offseason with him. He has 150 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: been such an important part of one of the major 151 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: transitional periods of this I really want to see him 152 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: see it through because I know what he means to 153 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: the community, I know what he means to the franchise, 154 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: and he's going to be honored. I think it's the 155 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: ways that you've been honored by the end of it. 156 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: Yes, he would. He should be. The thing that you 157 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: we talk about the production. Production is one thing. There 158 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: have been a lot of players who've come in here 159 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: produce produced at a high level, produced at a high 160 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: level for a number of years. But it's how you 161 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: go about handling your business, and the thing that you 162 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: really appreciate for Terry is he just does it with 163 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: such grace and humility and where he's a very likable player. 164 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: And so when you you you root for him and 165 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: you want him to be here at least a decade 166 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: and guardner all the recognition to accolades that he will, 167 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, ultimately receive once his player days are over. 168 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: But just him as a player. UH got played with 169 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: a lot of number one receivers matter, and UH play 170 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: with some Hall of famers, and they could be a 171 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: little temperamental, They can be a little bit of was 172 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: You don't see that he's played with it. I mean 173 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: I don't. We can't even name how many different quarterbacks 174 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: he's played with. You never hear him complaining frustrated things 175 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: like that. He just goes about shows up to work 176 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: day in and day out. And that's why he's he's 177 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: gonna be here for you know, the foreseeable future. 178 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: You admitted you had a couple of acrimonious you know, 179 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: contract negotiations through the years you lived the life there, 180 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: you saw a lot of ice. Have this does it 181 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: ever really bother the locker room beause I think a 182 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: lot of people on the outside wonder like this hanging 183 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: over the team for as long as it did, How 184 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: does it not affect the locker room. 185 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: As it doesn't because everybody players understand there's there's the 186 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: football side of things and then there's the business side 187 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: of football, and you. 188 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 5: Guys, it's just a part of it. You know. 189 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: As a as a player, you focus on what you 190 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: can control and you focus on your business. Terry had 191 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: to have no his business and the team, you know, 192 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: had no business from a contract standpoint. But me as 193 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: as a player or you got to worry about making 194 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: sure you're doing everything you can do to be the 195 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: best player you can be. Being focused on the meeting 196 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: is being focused on the practice field, doing all the 197 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: things necessary to prepare each day in and day out 198 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: to get ready for September seventh. 199 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: And he's obviously a great player. He also feels like 200 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a heartbeat to me for this team. I think you were, 201 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, for your side of the ball at the 202 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: time when you were playing as well. I think we 203 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: all see that in him too. It's important for him 204 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: to be happy, engaged, proud to wear the uniform and 205 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: putting the type of energy that we've grown accustomed to 206 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: with him. He is an all time competitor for this 207 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: for this team. 208 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: It makes a difference. Man, I tell you, you know, 209 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 5: I can. I can. 210 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: I would look at my situation. I'll go back to 211 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: my situation in Saint Louis with the Rams, my first team. 212 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 5: I played for it, and. 213 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: We won a super Bowl my second year in the league, 214 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: second first year as a starter, ended up going to 215 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: another super Bowl my fourth year there. I played great football, 216 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: did a lot of great things, and and we were 217 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: trying to get a deal done, but we just couldn't. 218 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: We just couldn't come to an agreement. And when free 219 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: agency started and it was apparent that I wasn't going 220 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: to resign there, I was hurt. I was hurt by 221 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: because I had put so much into it, and I'm like, 222 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: dang man, what more could I could I do have 223 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: done to, you know, have gotten paid what I felt 224 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: like I was deserved it. And at that point point 225 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: in time was younger, not really understanding the whole dynamics 226 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: of football. You're working with a budget, there's other things 227 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: you got to take a consideration. 228 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 5: But it uh. It hurtful. 229 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: It hurt before initially, and then I had to get 230 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: over there and understand that's that's just football, and that's 231 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: the business of it. And sometimes it's not always about 232 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: you know, everything's not black and white, so to speak. Yeah, 233 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: there's some other issue, moving parts and dynamics that come 234 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: into play. 235 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 5: Yeah. 236 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: I think this is all going to ultimately be water 237 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: under the bridge and just a footnotes of the season 238 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: because it goes back to the beginning. The only surprising 239 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: this whole thing to me was how long it took 240 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: to get here. I think both sites wanted this outcome 241 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: the whole time, and so I'm glad we got to 242 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: that outcome. 243 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: They move forward. 244 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: They did, I mean Adam peters Ap he was on 245 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: I mean he did press conference saying, hey, we won't 246 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: tear here, we. 247 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: Want to tear here. 248 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: DQ mentioned as a you know, it was they weren't 249 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: traded them, they weren't fielding trade offer, so they wanted 250 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: to him. They understand his importance to this team to 251 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: the value. Now we can put that bit really really 252 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: focus in on September one, I mean September seventh and 253 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: the New York Giants and the twenty twenty five football season. 254 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into why we do this, which 255 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: is the review what we watched on the field and 256 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: get past the news part of it. And regardless of 257 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: whether this had gotten done with Terry earlier, he wouldn't 258 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: have played very much in the preseason because very few 259 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: of the starters played in the three preseason games. There 260 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: were what one series with Jade and Daniels end what 261 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: was a compilation of the starters, because remember a number 262 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: of them didn't play on that right either because of injuries, 263 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: and then it was all backups in the other two 264 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: games and the starting defense played a little bit. What 265 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: did you make of that decision to use the starters 266 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: really sparingly in the three games. 267 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: I think there's there's not one way to do it. 268 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: You know, you have some coaches that are going to 269 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: play starters in every preseason game, and then you got 270 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: some guys who take their approach to DQ to and say, hey, 271 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna play our starts very fairly. I think at 272 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you have to do what 273 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: you feel is best for your football team in any. 274 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: Given year, and any look like we played Cincinnati right, yes, 275 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: the last few years they didn't play their starters. Some 276 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: of it was Joe Burrow was injured, but they didn't 277 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: and they've come They had zero and two or worse 278 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: three straight years, and they came in this year and said, 279 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: that's not happening again. We're gonna play our starters. Did 280 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: against Philadelphia, did an extended period against Washington, and I 281 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: guess we're not at that point right now. Right like, 282 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: we're looking at things differently with our group. 283 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: It just is again, it's all about and also what 284 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: you have to take it take into consideration the play. 285 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: The coaches they know, hey, we're I'm not gonna play 286 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: my starters in this this first preseason game, maybe just 287 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: a little bit second preseason game, majority not gonna play 288 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: in this third preseason game. So I'm gonna tailor my 289 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: practices to take those days into consideration. 290 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: We're gonna have some hard practice. 291 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna I'm gonna really challenge them Mitchally, I'm going 292 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: to stress them out physically. I'm going to do a 293 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: lot of different things that the public won't see in 294 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: order to get. 295 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 5: Them ready to play a football game. 296 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 2: If you if you say, let's say, for instance, they're 297 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: playing in the first preseason game against New England, you 298 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: may not have as that same type of attests, UH practice, 299 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: joint practice with the with the New England Patriots. 300 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: You may not have the scrimmage that you. 301 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: Had last week prior to the was it the Bengals 302 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: not the Bengals game, prior. 303 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 5: Prior to the Ravens game. 304 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: So you do different things to kind of take those 305 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: things in consideration. And that's not just that's not necessarily 306 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: to say that taking that approach, playing playing a series 307 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: or two in the in that preseason game, I would 308 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: have gotten as much work done. 309 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 5: That's that's there's no guarantee. 310 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the best moment of the summer I thought 311 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: in watching the starters was the joint practice up in 312 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: New England. I was there for that, and I thought, like, 313 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: we saw Tunsel at his best. Suddenly you saw how 314 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: dominant he can be. Jane looked good, zach Ertz looked, 315 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: Quicker was separating better than did a year. We saw 316 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: the makings of what we're looking at for this year. 317 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Then they turn around and play the game. None of 318 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: the starters are in there. And we were there after 319 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: the game with Dan Quinn in the locker room. He 320 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: was not pleased with a lot of things. Yeah, and 321 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: I got it, you know, like we didn't push him 322 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: too hard off the Ravens game because it was last 323 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: preseason game, and again none of the starters played. But 324 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: there were a lot of turnovers and there were a 325 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: lot of penalties, and he'd been talking about tackling. So 326 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say this was a slower 327 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: collective start I think to the summer than I think 328 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe they had hoped or anticipated. But at the same time, 329 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: most of the primary players didn't participate in it, so 330 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to like figure out where we 331 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: stand right now. 332 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: I think I think they would have they expected this 333 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: the let's call them majority of the second third, third 334 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: kind of group guys, back of the roster type guys, 335 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: back to the position group type guys to play much 336 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: better than they did, and there were some there were 337 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: some guys that did have some really good performances. But 338 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: I want to think I don't want people to think 339 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: that nobody played well in the preseason, because there were 340 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: some some really good performances by some guys in the preseason, 341 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: but collectively as a team, it wasn't It wasn't what 342 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: you would love to see from a from a product standpoint. 343 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: We know what the the New England game. They had 344 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: a totally different approach. And this my this is Mike 345 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: Vary was first year there. They they played their starters. Yeah, 346 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: they you can tell their game plan. They they they 347 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: spent time on Washington, on us and I mean they 348 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: came out it was Brady Statue Day and they played 349 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 2: with the intensity that we didn't match. The Ravens game, 350 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: especially when the when the two starters were in. That 351 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: was an exciting bag. First two series feel like a game. 352 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: It really did. 353 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: The first quarter and a half into the really late 354 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: part of the second quarter because Burrow played an extended 355 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: period of time that really felt like a game, and 356 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: it was reminiscent of the back and forth that we 357 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: had with them and we three the years and. 358 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: Then this this game against the Ravens. I was, man, 359 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: I thought it would be a lot more competitive games, 360 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: especially you know, you got the Battle of the Beltway, 361 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: so to speak, and the Ravens they've been doing it 362 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: almost twenty years with the same group of guys. 363 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 5: Obviously knew something. 364 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: Although he's not the general manager, he's built helped build 365 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: this program for so long. Their PERSONNELI is, they don't 366 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: change systems. They keep the same type of systems in 367 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: play they right now that we did. We we didn't 368 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: compete with them the way I felt like we would 369 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: compete with them, And I'm sure the coaches didn't fil 370 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: like that either. 371 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, like I want to go back to, like, 372 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: I'm very curious what this all looks like against the 373 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: Giants Because most of the primary players participated so little 374 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: in all of these games, it's really kind of hard 375 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: to know. So how are they gonna utilize Deebo Samuel? 376 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: The Giants are about to find out? What does this 377 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: offensive line really look like? Assuming Laramie Tunseel Brandon Coleman 378 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: are healthy. We'll see with Sam Cosmy, you know, when 379 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: he can come back sooner rather than later. What does 380 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: the running game look like after the changes that they've 381 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: been made? And like, are we going to see a 382 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: very different offense than we did a year ago? 383 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. So there is a lot of good 384 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: thing secrecy here. 385 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, even if they did play, you still wouldn't know 386 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: because they're not going to show you everything you would 387 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: have saw basically some bas generic type of offense from 388 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: our guys. They are going to show you these types 389 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: of rus that they're gonna have for the New York Giants, 390 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: the type of passing concepts that they're gonna have for 391 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: the New York Giants. First and foremost, they haven't. The 392 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: coaches have already probably spend some time on the Giants, 393 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: but they're not going at it with the players and say, hey, 394 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: these are players we're gonna we're gonna run against the Giants. 395 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: These are concepts that we're gonna run. These are runs 396 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: that we're getting ready to uh have in the in 397 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: the game against the Giants. So you still wouldn't know. 398 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: But here's the thing I do know is not that 399 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: this regular season is on. The intensity ramps up, the 400 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: focus ramps up. You have a guy in Bobby Wagner's 401 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion, you got Von Miller, two time Super 402 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: Bowl champion. You have Zach Ertz, who's who's won a 403 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You have some veteran guys that know how 404 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: to get ready for a regular season game, for the 405 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: opening of the season, and they will set the tone 406 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: in practice of how they need, how you need to 407 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: go about handling your business to get ready to blake 408 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: to play your best football. 409 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: On September seventh. 410 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think this was also an interesting setup 411 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: this summer. Like they talk a lot hear about competition, 412 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes if you take that in the literal sense, 413 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: it is like vying for positions. But if you think 414 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: about the roster that they brought in here, the veterans 415 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: that they signed, we walked into training camp short of injuries, 416 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: knowing pretty much. I mean that forty eight of the 417 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: fifty three were felt like they were pretty much set 418 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: walking in the building right, things could change. I think 419 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: the part of the backups not playing to the standard, 420 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: if you will, and the like how them being upset 421 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: about it was. I think dan Quinn and company wanted 422 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: to see them see something, Here is your opportunity. I 423 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: know it looks like that some of these jobs are 424 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: maybe not there, but show me, And I think that 425 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: felt like that's where it felt like to me a 426 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: little bit where it was just maybe a touch different 427 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: than what I expected. That said, the players who didn't 428 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: play were the players from the get go that I 429 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: expected to be playing on week one. Like, I didn't 430 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: feel like we walked into an extremely competitive for jobs 431 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: environment this summer. 432 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: No, No, not at all, because as you mentioned, you know, 433 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: you had you had the guys who contributed at a high 434 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: great deal last year come back and then you have 435 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: your trade, your draft class, and you know, so to speak, 436 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: how that kind of goes. But there are there are 437 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: still some there were still some some battles. Who's gonna 438 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: be that that fifth wide receiver, that sixth wire receiver 439 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: if they carry six you're still you know, offensive lineman. 440 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: That's there's you're always battling for for you know, was 441 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: the eighth, ninth, tenth, tenth offensive lineman. The defensive end, 442 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: there's some competition at the defensive end position. Yes, so 443 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: there's a backup linebackers competition there. So there are some 444 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: some some places and spots that there are still some 445 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: decisions to be made. 446 00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 6: Yep. 447 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: And that's not to say that guys in those groups 448 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: there probably are some guys that they felt like really 449 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: stood out that said, hey, this guy has done what 450 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: he needs to do to solidify and justify him being 451 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: on this football team. 452 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 5: Now, collectively as a. 453 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: Team, we might not have been a competitive but hey, 454 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: I was I wanted to really get a look at 455 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: this guy, and he showed me what I wanted to see. Yeah, 456 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: this guy showed me what I wanted to see, so 457 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: let's not lose. 458 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 5: Sight of that. 459 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: We were watching Ale Caho, who's really undrafted free agent, 460 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: made a name for himself in a spot where there 461 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: was room for a young linebacker to kind of make 462 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: a name for himself. Robert McDaniel as an undrafted free 463 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: agent that kind of started to emerge late in camp 464 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: as someone that they got very interested in. I think 465 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: we're seeing development of Colson Yankov right now. Chris Paul 466 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: looks much more versatile than he did previously. He's always 467 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: had a lot of strength, but his versatility and his 468 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: positioning has changed. So there were a lot of positives. 469 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: Although I think the coaches, you know, all but sedative, 470 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: like collectively, I don't think they were overly pleased with 471 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: just they. 472 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 5: I mean, it was, it was. It was not very good, 473 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 5: especially that uh that game against the Ravens at home. 474 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 5: Man thirty three. 475 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: I'll say this though, we have to This is a 476 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: seventy man roster too, So you got your initial fifty 477 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: three and then the practice squad actually seventy one because 478 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: you got the h the Pathway uh yeah, Pathway player 479 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: as well. There's gonna be some and there might be 480 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: some releases around the league that we may add to 481 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: our our fifty three man roster. The third quarterback spot, 482 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say we we don't know 483 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: how they're gonna carry three, Are they gonna carry two? 484 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: If they if they only carry too an active roster, 485 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: they still don't have a quarterback or two on the 486 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: practice squad. Is it gonna be the guys who've already 487 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: been here? Did they show enough? 488 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 489 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that largely comes down to 490 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota had a lower leg strain. He's been dealing 491 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: with achilles tendonitis. He did work out before the Ravens game, 492 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: which I thought was a really good sign that things 493 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: are trending the right way for him. I know they 494 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: want to be very careful with something like that. You 495 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: don't want to push somebody with something like that and 496 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: have a season ending injury. And they need him. That 497 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: became abundantly clear. He's the backup quarterback in the team. 498 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: So I think that third quarterback conversation probably comes down 499 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: to how confident are they that Mariota is going to 500 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: be fine if need be Week one, week two against 501 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: the Giants. 502 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: And even then, how much of a I mean when 503 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: you talking about third quarterback, So there's also a scenario 504 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: how quickly can you bring somebody in here and get 505 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: them up to speed to your offense because they're not 506 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: really going to get reps to run our offense and practice. 507 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: Those reps are going to Jay and Dall's and maybe 508 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: a sprinkle or two to Mariota. That guy's going to 509 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: have to really learn if you bring somebody in outside 510 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: who maybe doesn't have that background with Cliff, Yeah, Cliff 511 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: Kingsbury offense that that he was, how quickly can you 512 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: get that person up to speed without them being able 513 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: to get the reps needed that you build up the 514 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: OTA's offseason workos many cabs trying to camp the preseason guys, 515 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: those are those are all questions that remain. 516 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: The one other big thing that happened this summer that 517 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on was the decision 518 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: to trade Brian Robinson and where the running back room 519 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: is as we head into the season where I'm assuming 520 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: they're going to keep for Logan Pulse is going to 521 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: join us in a minute, we'll talk about the roster construction. 522 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: But like Bill, the seventh round pick really flashed in camp, 523 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: showed some stuff in the games. Austin Eckler comes back, 524 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: I think feels like a primary back in many different 525 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: ways for them. Chris Rodriguez had a very nice Summer's 526 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of re designed his body. He's got a lot faster. 527 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: Jerey McNichols, I know, is very well liked in the 528 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: room the others. It's a very competitive room. But Brian 529 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: Robinson obviously was a performer here for a few years 530 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: and a consistent one. What did you say think when 531 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: that happened, Well, think it was kind. 532 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: Of a parent that be Robb was going to be 533 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: moved when he didn't dress for the game against Cincinnati Bengals. 534 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: And when you look at this office and what they 535 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: want their backs to be able to do, and not 536 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: even just their backs, you don't want to necessarily give 537 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: the defense an indication. Hey when when be robs in 538 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: a game, it's an eighty percent run, because that's what 539 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: we do as defense. We look for tendency. So we're 540 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: going to call our game pay based on Tennessees for 541 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: whether it's a personnel grouping tendency. Donard, this is Tendessee. 542 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: Whatever we want to call our game plan based on that. 543 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: They call a defense based on that on a particular play. 544 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: With these other guys, you have guys that maybe can 545 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: do a little bit more. They can you can add 546 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: a little bit more in the passing game. You got 547 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: to acting you missing mentioned him is if it might 548 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: be fifty to fifty run pass when he's in the game. 549 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: Same thing with Jeremy McNichols. You have to see what 550 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: Bill can do, you know, consistently in the passing gay. 551 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: We know he can catch and he can make things 552 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: happen when you when he gets the ball in his hands. 553 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: We know he has a tremendous speed and burst and 554 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: all those things. In vision they had they got four guys. 555 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: Now assuming that you know these are the four guys 556 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: that they end up keeping, they can do a lot 557 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: of different things. And three of those guys, with the 558 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: exception of Eckler, they cover kicks too. They'll be out, 559 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: go out and play special teams. So you had that 560 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 2: dimension as well, and be Robb didn't. He didn't He 561 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: didn't cover kicks. So I think I think it ended 562 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: up being the right decision for the team. Be robbed 563 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: ended up in a great spot in San Francisco. They 564 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: love to run the football. I'm a huge Big b 565 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: Rob fan. I'll still support him and cheer for him, 566 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: but they made that decision that these are the guys 567 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: we don't go with, and these guys fit what we 568 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: want to do better. 569 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really, I really like getting to know Brian 570 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: is a very nice young man. Obviously, if we know 571 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: happened his rookie season was terrible incident that occurred. He 572 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: ended up playing through it, and then you watch him 573 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: every summer training camp. He was the guy that was 574 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: signing out of grass for the kids and throwing footballs 575 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: with them and engaging with them. He's a very tough player. 576 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm also rooting for him in San Francisco. I look 577 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: at this more as it was a fit thing more 578 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: than anything. I think they're looking for some, you know, 579 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: players that can maybe stretch the field a little bit differently, 580 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: home run hitting ability, catch the ball out of the backfield, 581 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: And I think it's just a schematic fit more than anything, 582 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: and I think they see more out of some of 583 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: these other players that fit this offense a little differently. 584 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll do fine at San Francisco. 585 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: They run that ball, Yeah, and you mentioned Chris Rod Drewguez. 586 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: I think Chris Chris is He's performed every with all 587 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: the opportunities he's been given, especially last season, and then 588 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: limited opportunities he got, he produced. We seen how these 589 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: how he's producing these in these preseason games. Broke out 590 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: the four, broke off the forty yarder against the Bagles, 591 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: broke off another long, really nice row to start the 592 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: game against the But so he's a he's somebody that 593 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: I want to see what he looks like with more 594 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: carries and more opportunities. 595 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he changed his number last year, was off 596 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: the team entirely at one point last year, came back 597 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: to an amazing story. If he becomes someone who gets, 598 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, a little more opportunity than he did over 599 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: the first couple of years of his career. 600 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: All right, we do have a third member. 601 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: Of our team on Sunday's, Mondays, Thursdays, whatever it's gonna 602 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: be this year. So we've got the craziest schedule of 603 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: all time. It is the one and only Logan Paulsen. 604 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so every week the. 605 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: Dressed down Logan Paulson. 606 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: You love me, hanging man. 607 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 6: What's always been good to me, I should give you 608 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 6: a knuckler. 609 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: It's nice to have you here with us. It's so 610 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: good to be here. 611 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of feels like I'm on the sideline, 612 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 6: you know. 613 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 4: You guys just talk and I listen, and then all 614 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: of a sudden it's like, hey, Logan, what's up? 615 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 6: Ye come in? 616 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: So it's good that you're here playing. It's a bructioning 617 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: plate for sure. 618 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, always complaining about his time. 619 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the seed I get. It's just tough, man. 620 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: They could have given you one of these nice chairs. 621 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: That wasn't my choice. 622 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 6: I know you talked to me. 623 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 5: We want to make you feel comfortable. 624 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: You should comfortable to tell you that right now? 625 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: Would you think of camp? What's you just general impression. 626 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: When I think of camp, man, I mean, I always 627 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 4: like camp is fun, you know what I mean. I 628 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: think it's just hard to get a real evaluation from it, 629 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like it's just one of 630 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: those things where you're kind of like, yes, here's the 631 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 4: thing that's happening, right, fletch, Like we are going against 632 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: our own team, but like, how good is the offensive 633 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: line really? How good is the defensive line really? And 634 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: I've said this to you, maybe you before Fletch. It's 635 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: like one of those things where you don't really know 636 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: what your team is until probably like week three or 637 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: four of the season, right, And again that's one of 638 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 4: those things where you're kind of in the NFL. I 639 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: think that's a good point. It's like, it's not that's 640 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: not an indictment of this team. It's every team I 641 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: ever played for, because I remember being part of the Bears. 642 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: So I got cut here and then I went to 643 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 4: the Bears, and I remember that team was objectively bad 644 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 4: and I had just come. 645 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 6: In, right, it was like my first day. 646 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: It was getting ready for week one and Jim Fox 647 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: got up, our coach Fox set up in front of 648 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: the team. He was like, we're gonna go to the 649 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 4: super Bowl, and I was like, I definitely know that's 650 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: not true because I just came from as other team, right. So, like, 651 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: I think that's part of the thing about this, Like 652 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: training camp is like good vibes. I love the way 653 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 4: coach Quinn handles it, but ultimately, like you don't know 654 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: until you know. 655 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: As much as like monitor fan bases these days, by 656 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the way, be careful with the Chicago people. 657 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: They are ranked so they're. 658 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: Ranked very high on easily triggered people. 659 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 6: So, just for the record, this is in twenty sixteen, 660 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 6: and that was a bad year. 661 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 5: I wanted I wanted to ask how many guys did 662 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 5: y'all end up win today? 663 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 6: Everyone? Four three three four games? 664 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 5: Not quite super Bowl. 665 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: Quite make the super Bowl, but we were very very close. 666 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know, but yeah, we get. I 667 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: think the question was like, did anyone stand out in 668 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: the preseason? 669 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: Right, you can answer it anyway. 670 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, so did anyone who set out for you in 671 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 6: the preseason? 672 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: Fletch Man, I so, yeah, you got the obvious guys. 673 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: That's that's too think you. I think, yeah, let's let's 674 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: go in tears. 675 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: Let's feel like with that starting group, anybody stick out 676 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: to you there, and then we'll go down and maybe something. 677 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: So for some reason, I was going to start with 678 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: younger guys, but I don't. I had to go big 679 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: with Jaden stood out. Oh yeah, Mikey Savage Steele stood 680 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: out making plays. 681 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: To dude, how good was Mikey though? 682 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 5: Oh he's outstanding. 683 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 6: I mean every practice, right, Bran. 684 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, he is outstanding. 685 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: Mikey Stash Salmon Steel stood out totso I stood out 686 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: even more so when in enjoint practices. 687 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 5: Who else Trey. 688 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 6: Amos, Dude, I think that whole secondary, Yeah, he. 689 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 5: Really stood out. 690 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: The secondary. 691 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: I would argue from last year to this year, that 692 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: went from a weakness to a strength overnight, and it 693 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: might be the strongest part of the defense. Like I 694 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: might argue that the reason why that I think that 695 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: they feel confident that they're going to play the style 696 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: they want to play that they didn't play a year 697 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: ago is be because of the confidence in that group 698 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: that they have right now. Marshaun Lattimore has looked healthy 699 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: to me. 700 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: We'll see. 701 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that's gonna be the case. Amos looks like 702 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: a walk in the door first day starter, I hipped. Hopefully, 703 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: we know what Sanders still was last year, and they're 704 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: moving him to a position they think he's going to 705 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: excel at. They have real depth now behind them, and 706 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: I think the safeties, especially Kwan, have really come on 707 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: here in another year. The secondary looks like a massive 708 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: strength for this team. 709 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to guy, ask you like a flash 710 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 4: fled specifically, like when I see Santum still practice right 711 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: his ability to produce the ball every day, whether he's 712 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 4: punching it out, interception ball skills like, and he didn't 713 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: play a ton in the preseason, but like, I don't know, man, 714 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 4: I was worried about him going from outside inside because 715 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 4: I feel like that's a really tough transition. But all 716 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: of a sudden he comes in there and you write 717 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: about going from outside side because it's a different position, 718 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, People, it's tougher to go. 719 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: Well, it's just thought it was to be tougher for 720 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: him to go to outside. 721 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 4: Right, But then but then you're coming back and it's 722 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: not the same as it was last year. So I 723 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: look at him, I'm like, man, he's tackling in the 724 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: run game. Yeah, he's producing the football like and it 725 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: just I just was blown away with how effective he 726 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: was this training. 727 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: Where we had Joe Witt on the conference call and 728 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: he called him a dirt dog. Dirt dogs, dirt dog, 729 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: And what he was basically said is this dude is 730 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: an animal. 731 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 5: He is a pit bull. 732 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: Don't let don't let the the well spoken is you know, 733 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: we had a few of those. 734 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 3: I think Terry's that way. I think Jade is too. 735 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: Don't be the smile does a. 736 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: Kill on this side. Yeah. 737 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: But but with Mikey, he's just so tough. You look 738 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: at his size, like, man, he's not He's not extremely big. 739 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: He reminds me of a teammate that I had in 740 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: Buffalo at Twine Winfield. Joke, you played Twine Whinfield the father, Yes. 741 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 6: Because like I remember him just being an absolute savage. 742 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: That one was five maybe nine on this tippy toes 743 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: one hundred. 744 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 6: I don't know. 745 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: Five ten easy, easy, yeah, five? 746 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 6: Look at you got feet. 747 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 5: That's like Mike doesn't look really physically imposed. 748 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: Powerful pile, was the best tackling in the NFL, the 749 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: hardest hitter in the NFL. Could blitz, wasn't afraid to 750 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: mix it up, could go inside outside, And that's Mikey. 751 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, de bows look really good in the preseason. 752 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 6: Two look great. And because he only got a couple 753 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 6: of resps. 754 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: The other guy, I want to ask you about number 755 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: fifty two on the defensive line, Dude, how big and 756 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 4: how And that's the other thing is he's looked like 757 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 4: I followed his career from San Francisco kind of up 758 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 4: and down. 759 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 6: Obviously played better last. 760 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 3: Year with New York serious injuries early, but. 761 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 4: Like then you look at him this year and he's 762 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 4: like he's like a man out there, like an explosive, 763 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 4: twitchy dude. You watch him in the Cincinnati game throwing 764 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 4: people on the ground, Like I feel like he's another 765 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: guy that deserves a shout out for him training cat. 766 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: He's when you see him stand next to someone like 767 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: doron paint and he makes pain look small. 768 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 6: How funny is that? 769 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: Right, all of a sudden you realize how large he is. 770 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: I think he's like for those who like, because I 771 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: have kids wreck at Ralph where it's every play I'm 772 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: a wreck it, and that's what it feels like. There 773 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: are times when he stands up to people like he 774 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: ruins plays like immediately he can have that kind of presence. 775 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: Whether that turns into sacks or like the types of 776 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: plays that like he makes personally in the stat line 777 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: or whether that opens it up for other people is 778 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: interesting to me. And whether he does this consistently I 779 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: think will be the part that. 780 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: We're here's here's what I want fast to understand. And 781 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: so with a guy like Ken Law, with that power 782 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: that he has in his lower body in his hands, 783 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: so there was a couple of plays, and you mentioned 784 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 2: how he jumped off in Cincinnati. So let's imagine were 785 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: on the first down, first first or second down, we're 786 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: on situation, and he makes a tackle at the line 787 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: of scrimmage, or maybe he gets off of blocks and 788 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 2: it's a one or two yard game. So now it's 789 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: second and nine, is second and eight, and also continue 790 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: maybe it's third and seven, third and eight as opposed 791 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: to third and three. You don't get off that block, 792 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: you're the running back is able to pick up four 793 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: or five yards on first down. Now you're there operating 794 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: in second and mediums, third and mediums, he's going to 795 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: have an impact and that probably more than sack numbers. 796 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: He's gonna get us in a He's gonna get us 797 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: in a lot of situation where we earn the right 798 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: to rush the passer. You have to be really I 799 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: would say third and four more to truly even third 800 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: and four is kind of on the low end. Third 801 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: and five or more to really be able to truly 802 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: rush the passer. 803 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think you saw that in the Cincinnati game, right, 804 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 4: like their ability to get him longer down in the distances. 805 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: You saw more exotic pressures and obviously just as a 806 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 4: point of junksupposition, like when you watch the Baltimore game 807 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 4: and they're in third and two, third and three, and 808 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: it's just it's hard to live in that world, right, 809 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 4: So I think you feel the effect of kin Law. 810 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: Dietrich Wise very similar player in that regard, just kind 811 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: of these big formidable yes, dude, formidable, great word. 812 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 813 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 6: I actually think Dietrich Wise looks more like a round. 814 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 5: Big Barris on this booth room view. Formidable formid. 815 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are, like they have clearly prioritized size. 816 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it matters for both sides of the ball. 817 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: Like the Laramie Tunzel trade had a trickle down effect 818 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: on the entire offensive line that I think we're going 819 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: to see in real time. 820 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 3: What I'm hoping is for better. 821 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: Protection, less less realizations that Jade has to vacate the 822 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: pocket sooner. He can become more of a past first 823 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: quarterback than maybe he was a year ago, because his 824 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 1: accuracy and his ability to throw the ball I think 825 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: wasn't as on display as it can be if he 826 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: gets the right type of protection packages. And on the 827 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: other side, we have what looks to be a much 828 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: more formidable line that hopefully can control the run on 829 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: first and second down, and all sudden we get into 830 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: all of these types of things where they have all 831 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: these different packages, which I can't wait to see how 832 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: they utilize a lot of different players as specialists this 833 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: year to generate a pass rush. 834 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 4: Okay, so that's the top of the roster there kind 835 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 4: of all the guys we've talked about. Anybody at the 836 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 4: bottom of the roster that surprised you, And I got 837 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 4: a follow up question once you kind of give me 838 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 4: a couple of. 839 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: Names, you know, Like we were talking about this earlier, 840 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: Like I felt like we came into a season where 841 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of room for a lot of 842 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: younger guys to potentially nudge their way onto the roster. 843 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: I felt like that this was not a locked roster, 844 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: but it was going to take some conditions to kind 845 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: of change all of that. But there are a couple 846 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: of people that did really stand out to me. I 847 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: like Caho, the undrafted rookie lying backer. I thought did 848 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: a really good job. 849 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 6: You probably liked him, I did. 850 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 5: I did. I liked him. 851 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 6: He kind of plays like old school. 852 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 5: I'm just saying I really liked him. 853 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 2: I thought Hamilton Antonio Habita, and I know we we 854 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: kind of it's gonna be hard to break in that 855 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: that cornerback room. But I thought he did some really 856 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: good job, really good things on the football field. And 857 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: we have to understand, I know you understand this, both 858 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: of you guys understanding it's not just about the fifty 859 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: three is also that seventy man rocks because you're you're 860 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: developing these guys for hey injuries down the road, with 861 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: the flexibility, be able to call guys up on game day, 862 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 2: guys that can cover kicks, produce if need be. Ja 863 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: Cory Brooks, Yeah, I thought he did some really think 864 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: good things. To Meler, He's he's really you know, put 865 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: himself into position to hey, maybe I'm just I'm. 866 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 5: The other receiver. 867 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: The other guy would bring up is Jalen Lane. I 868 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: think that he kind of walked in. 869 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 6: He's like a roster lock though, right. 870 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: But like I think he walked in with he's gonna 871 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: be our punt returner. 872 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 3: At least that's the hope. 873 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be the punt returner and then because of 874 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: his speed, we'll find some things for him to do. 875 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: But we know who the. 876 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: Primary receivers are Terry Deebo, Noah Brown. There's just not 877 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of room on the field. Well, 878 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: because of some things that happened, Noah Brown's injury, Terry's injury, 879 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 1: and then you know, whatever else was going on, right, 880 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: it gave him opportunities to do other things in camp. 881 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: And I thought it was quite noticeable to me that 882 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: in the Ravens game, Luke McCaffrey benson it played Jane 883 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: Lane did not, So I like I took that as 884 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: a message of we saw some of the things that 885 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: he's capable of, and maybe maybe I don't think it's 886 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: necessary because everybody's back in the fold and hopefully healthy, 887 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: that there might be more of an eye opening about 888 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: him about things he could do as opposed to maybe 889 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: what they thought he was just going to be entering 890 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: camp this year. 891 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's one hundred percent legitimate, because again, 892 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 4: like I was surprised with some of his rot running nuance, 893 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 4: you didn't really see at Virginia Tech. That offense is 894 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 4: kind of like rough to watch. They had poor quarterback play. 895 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 4: But something I want to ask both you guys that 896 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 4: I think is really interesting is like when you're so 897 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 4: like we did a fifty three man roster when we 898 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 4: were waiting to come on the show, right, kind of 899 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 4: just going through positions, and so you mentioned Al Caho, right, 900 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: and it's like Ali Caho versus Trent Scott versus Jerryman 901 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 4: McNichols versus you know, Jacob Martin, and so you've got 902 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 4: all these different people that are kind of competing for 903 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 4: the bottom, you know, last four roster spots. Let's say, 904 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that I just threw out some names. 905 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything specifically about those guys, But how 906 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 4: do you compare it? 907 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 6: Is it? 908 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 4: And I'm sure you've been on a bunch of teams, 909 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 4: You've covered a bunch of teams, like how do they 910 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 4: make those decisions? 911 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 5: Here? 912 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: First and foremost positions that you need a little bit 913 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 2: more depth depth at because of history of the position, 914 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: and you're going to suffer. It's probably a little bit 915 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 2: more catastrophic to deal with an offensive line injury as 916 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 2: opposed to a I mean call a tight end injury. 917 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 6: Oh, I feel like that's a little bit of a shot. 918 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 5: It's not, it's not. I was just saying, like. 919 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 4: You can survive it. But you can, you can find 920 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 4: a way different personnel groupings. 921 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we we we we we need an office 922 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: in lineman. That's they're too valuable. I think it's so 923 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: say you're gonna carry this team is gonna carry less 924 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 2: linebackers than some other teams because we only play two 925 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 2: dollars two linebackers majority of the time, so there's not 926 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: a ton of us playing three. 927 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 3: Say they plan to play more three lineback. 928 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: Again earlier, right, yeah, he did, But are we going 929 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 2: to see that on a consistent basis? The region you 930 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: probably won't is because a lot of teams, there are 931 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: so many office there's so many three ride receiver sets 932 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 2: that you just unless you got some linebackers that can 933 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: truly fly and then you got versatil we got safeties 934 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 2: that can come in the box and kind of be 935 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: that like a big, big safety kind of. 936 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 6: A small wheel. 937 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: So that's that's those are those are things that that 938 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: coming into that. 939 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: I used a couple of other things here too, like 940 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: after just taking into taking into account like are they 941 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: going to carry three quarterbacks or not? 942 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 3: Are they just command I don't know, I don't know. 943 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: But that's when we talk about these position groups you 944 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: have to take that into account. 945 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 3: Are they going to do that? 946 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: Then it starts putting on the margins, maybe somebody you 947 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: wanted to keep, and you have to make a choice 948 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: between which position group is going to be short. 949 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 4: So my numbers are off on this. You know why 950 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 4: why I didn't put quarterbacks on here? 951 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 5: I mean, so you have quarter back when. 952 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 6: You have thirteen off No, I just had another one 953 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 6: extra one. 954 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 5: You can I hear your numbers. 955 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 4: You got the numbers on a position twenty three offensive 956 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 4: players and twenty five defensive players and four specialists before. 957 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: I account he counts beloor, he will be counted account. 958 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: So you got twenty twenty three offensive place twenty quarterbacks. 959 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so now then that would get us to fifty. Right, 960 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 4: so I probably plus one. I'm a heavy one, is 961 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 4: what I would say. 962 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 5: So you got to find one. One gonna drop once more? 963 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 3: You have two quarterbacks making it what you have? 964 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 6: That's defensive players twenty five. 965 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: Twenty five, twenty five and three if you count below 966 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 1: as a linebacker, and three specialists. 967 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 4: All right, So just doing math math, bas not every 968 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 4: team does that. 969 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 5: The offense gets one more player. 970 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: Really, why how most of the time that is how 971 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: it goes at which position group a defense? 972 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 6: That coach? 973 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 4: My guy, So is that is that the thing? It's 974 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 4: on the sheet it says, don't be surprised if they 975 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 4: carry one more offensive player. Is that your thing? 976 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 5: Yeah? 977 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty so twenty six and twenty six offense, twenty 978 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: four defense and three special. 979 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 4: But it's a defensive head coach. I feel like you're 980 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 4: going to get a little no. 981 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 5: This twenty six Do you tell us what you know? 982 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 5: Twenty six off? 983 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: Twenty four beating around the bush like you obviously know something. 984 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,479 Speaker 1: Why did you just say it? 985 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 5: So? 986 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 6: Twenty six twenty four is what you think? 987 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 5: I think it's twenty six offense. 988 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 4: I have a hard The defense was hard for me, man, 989 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 4: because you look at the defensive back I feel like you. 990 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 6: Got ten locks, right, yes, five. 991 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 4: I carried five linebackers, which maybe is one heavy because 992 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 4: I thought, I think Kho makes the team. I think 993 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 4: he played well enough for it. And then I got 994 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 4: ten defensive linemen. I got five safeties, five corners, so 995 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 4: ten DB's yeah, five linebackers and ten defensive linemen. Yeah, 996 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 4: Fletch doesn't like it. 997 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 6: Let's just shift an over the seat. 998 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 5: Because I don't. I think it's gonna be a little bit. 999 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 5: It's gonna be one one more offense. 1000 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 6: I mean you heard here first. 1001 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: Numbers. Well, so like how many offensive linemen. 1002 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 5: Do you have? Ten? 1003 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember we had had ten and then it 1004 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 4: had caused me going to pup though that's what I had, so. 1005 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: Nine, yes, nine, not to make a decision at a 1006 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: later date if that were to happen is nine and 1007 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: what six wide receivers? 1008 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? That was That was also very tough for me. 1009 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: Because there's clearly four tight ends. It looks like there's 1010 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: four running backs. If it's two quarterbacks, that's where your 1011 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: that's where your margin is. Yeah, five or six receivers correct? 1012 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1013 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if you I don't know, 1014 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 4: we'll you guys talked about the receivers earlier. He said 1015 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 4: that was kind of a tough off can't battle to 1016 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,240 Speaker 4: watch because no one really asserted themselves. 1017 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 6: And I would totally agree with you. 1018 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. I thought what I liked about Brooks was. 1019 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 2: He may plays the contested catches way like he went 1020 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: out and there was a plate the other day he 1021 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 2: runs a five yard hitch uh corners over him, right 1022 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 2: all over him. Makes the Cats though, like you're not 1023 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 2: gonna you're not always gonna get separation. He's a bigger 1024 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 2: body receiver something we don't have a ton of big 1025 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 2: body receivers. And from a developmental standpoint, you look at, hey, 1026 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: what can what can he turn out to be? 1027 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 4: To me, like I would look at him and say, like, 1028 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 4: I think he's talented, I think he's got some ability, 1029 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 4: but he's an undrafted free agent. 1030 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 6: I think you get him a practice squad. I don't 1031 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 6: think he's That's that's so said. I'm saying. So that's 1032 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 6: kind of my thought there is like even though. 1033 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 5: Maybe you only carry five receivers, well. 1034 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 6: I have I have I have k I have Osborne 1035 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 6: making it. But that's I have that in red. 1036 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 4: So I actually think my surprise thing will be surprised 1037 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 4: if that six receivers from a different team. 1038 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 3: That's what I think too. 1039 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: That's if there if there is an addition from another team, 1040 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: it feels like it's that position group to me that 1041 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: I think once we get through cutdown day around the league, 1042 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: all right, let's do quick season prediction. 1043 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 5: It will let you stay. 1044 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's do some season prediction stuff here. What 1045 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: do you think of the NFC East. Let me let 1046 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: me get that just general out of the way. Where 1047 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 1: do you what does that look like to you this year? 1048 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be probably the There are 1049 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: three three really competitive teams in the NFC East. I 1050 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: take that back, two really competitive days in the NFCI. 1051 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 3: Think there might be three, but you might be. 1052 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 2: You've been on the Giant. I think Philly, You've got 1053 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: to give them their respect. There, the there, the you know, 1054 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 2: the the target in the in the East, we're going 1055 00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: to be extremely competitive. I think the Giants, the Cowboys 1056 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: guy so much going on with the Giants, Dave, they 1057 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 2: can be competitive. They always competitive, so I wouldn't be 1058 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: surprised about time. 1059 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be interesting for week one, 1060 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: not unlike with our defense, with some of the additions 1061 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: that we have, and I think stylistically we might be 1062 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: a little different. We have to see what they look like. 1063 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: You go look at them on paper, especially their front 1064 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Kevon Thibadeau will see what Abdol 1065 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: Carter is. I think they made great additions on their 1066 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: back end. Paulson Adebo Javon Holland on paper they're way 1067 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: better defensively than they were a year ago, and specifically upfront. 1068 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: It's going to be a really, really, really good test, 1069 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 1: and then we'll see how their quarterback situation plays out 1070 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: through the year the most important part. But I'd be 1071 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: like for them, they use the first round pick on 1072 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback who's not going to start in a week 1073 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: run unless something changes. And he was the best looking 1074 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: quarterback of the group. So at some point in time 1075 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: if things aren't going well, there's gonna be a drum 1076 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: beat that he's playing like it comes. 1077 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 6: From that old miss offense. I think that's gonna be 1078 00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 6: a tough turn. 1079 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 4: You got you know, Russell Wilson, who I think is 1080 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 4: a borderland Hall of Fame candidate, but like doesn't look 1081 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 4: like that guy anymore. I again, like, I think the 1082 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 4: defense is going to be a problem. It's going to 1083 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 4: be a tough out defense because they can rush the passer. 1084 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 4: I think they can cover better on the back end. 1085 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 4: But the thing is, like, you got it. As much 1086 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 4: as it pains me to say this, sit next to 1087 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 4: you know, future Hall of Famer London Fletcher. This is 1088 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 4: an offensive driven league, right, so if you can't score 1089 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 4: points and if you don't have a quarterback, you're going 1090 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 4: to be an I don't care. You can hold them 1091 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 4: to three points like. 1092 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: This felt like to me the Patriots a little bit yeargo. 1093 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: I think their defense was very good, but they had 1094 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: no way of scoring points. 1095 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 5: And I think after a while. 1096 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, So they could be Dallas. I'm not sure, Well. 1097 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 6: What a lot of if they're good or like what. 1098 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: A lot of things like just do they have a 1099 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: run game? Yeah, you know, what is their run defense? 1100 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: If THEA is going to continue to be the way 1101 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 1: it's been, like a new coach, right, unusual circumstances by 1102 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: which they got to it. 1103 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot going on there. 1104 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 5: You know. 1105 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of very good players, obviously, 1106 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: but I think it's just a lot one on there. 1107 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I got all the all those young guys 1108 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 4: on the offensive line. I do think though, like you 1109 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 4: look at like the explosive weapons that they've added, ceedee 1110 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 4: lamb pickens, like that feels like it could be have 1111 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 4: a little bit more teeth to it than it's had 1112 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,959 Speaker 4: in the past couple of years. They had that blue 1113 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 4: kid from LSU that kind of our Texas to kind 1114 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 4: of pass catching four two back, Like, I don't know, man, 1115 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 4: if that if Dak Prescott plays like you did two 1116 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 4: years ago, that could be a tough They could be 1117 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 4: a tough out offensively because again, like I think their 1118 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 4: defense is okay, but like it's a quarterback driven system, right, So, 1119 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 4: like he was a borderline MVP candidate a couple years ago. 1120 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: What do you think of the schedule the way, especially 1121 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: after we get through about the first month, that we're 1122 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 1: just never playing at one o'clock anymore. Every games at night, 1123 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: We're going to Madrid Christmas Day, standalone games Monday night, 1124 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: Sunday night. 1125 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 6: No big smile, Fletcher, I think it's tough. 1126 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: Oh no, it's it's extremely tough. But the schedule is 1127 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 2: what it is. It's just you got to deal with it. 1128 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 2: Whatever time the game is, you just you get ready 1129 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 2: to play that game. Ideally, yeah, we would all love 1130 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 2: one o'clock Sunday games, but weren't hide high demand. Man, 1131 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 2: the Jayden Daniels effect a bunch of prime It's exciting exactly. 1132 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 2: So there's that's that's that's one of the things that 1133 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 2: you have to accept that, hey, we're considered one of 1134 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 2: the better football teams in the league, and they want 1135 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,959 Speaker 2: to see us in prime time. 1136 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 4: I think the other thing, too, man, is like I 1137 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 4: trust this staff, like the way they handled the Arizona 1138 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 4: game last year, kind of staying out there, Like, I 1139 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 4: think they'll find edges in the schedule to make it 1140 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 4: easier on the players. And again, I think we do 1141 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 4: have a forward kind of problem solving staff. I think 1142 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 4: that's going to be extremely advantageous. So, like, yes, am 1143 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 4: I concerned about the schedule, as you guys know, I'm 1144 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 4: concerned everything. But that's how it was as a player, 1145 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 4: That's how I am as an analyst, right, But I 1146 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 4: do think that that's I think they'll find the best 1147 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 4: way to make me feel the best about. 1148 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 2: It profession Here's what I Here's one thing we haven't 1149 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 2: talked enough enough about is No, we didn't win the 1150 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 2: Super Bowl last year, but a lot of teams are 1151 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 2: going to be gonna to knock us off to a 1152 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 2: great point. We're a twelve or five football team that 1153 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 2: made it to the NFC Championship Game that has gotten 1154 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,439 Speaker 2: a lot of let's call it off season hype or 1155 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 2: whatever attention you look at all the prime time guys, 1156 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 2: we're going to get everything's best shot, and. 1157 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: We're going to be part of every media outlets, so 1158 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: like social media circles, they're gonna be a topic every week, 1159 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: win or lose. That's different about this team than it's 1160 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: been in previous year. So they're constantly going to be 1161 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: in the national media cycle because of the expectations, because 1162 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: of the quarterback, because of the season that came off 1163 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: of that. There's gonna be a tremendous amount of attention 1164 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: that's put on the teams here. 1165 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 6: And I don't know, like I've always felt like that 1166 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 6: was really hard. 1167 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 4: And maybe it's because I got burned or we got 1168 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 4: burned because you're on that team too, from twenty twelve 1169 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 4: to twenty thirteen. Yes, that's but like it's I think 1170 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 4: you got to learn how to handle success, like I 1171 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 4: remember my high schol football coach. You got to learn 1172 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 4: how to handle success like and I think jayde Daniels, 1173 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner, Zach Er, it'z all this Like there's one 1174 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,240 Speaker 4: of the questions on here is this is the oldest 1175 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 4: roster in the NFL. I think that's people looked at 1176 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 4: as a negative. I think it's a good thing going 1177 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 4: to this year. I think it's a good thing. 1178 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 5: I agree, but do not bring twenty thirteen. Okay, so Logan, 1179 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 5: you and I were on that team. Yeah you know 1180 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 5: that was some stuff. 1181 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 6: No, yeah, other stuff. But what I'm saying is like. 1182 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 5: That impacted everything that happened out. 1183 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 4: But I think that's a good example, like of like 1184 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 4: Dargy three as an example, and we know he's a 1185 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 4: different kind of cat obviously, but he came into the 1186 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 4: limelight and had a really hard time managing that in 1187 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 4: the context of the team. And I just hope that 1188 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 4: there's enough veteran leadership here again because I like to 1189 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 4: worry about stuff. 1190 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 6: Man, I'm a warrior. Can we handle it? 1191 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 5: Can we handle it? 1192 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 6: I can? I mean I'm not doing it second handle it. 1193 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 5: Here's what I'll say. Jaden is so will so grounded. 1194 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 6: Man, I love it. Preach flesh. 1195 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 5: He is so. 1196 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,760 Speaker 6: I'm feeling better already my blood pressure. 1197 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 5: He is so grounded. 1198 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 6: It's like a nursery. 1199 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 2: Focused on all the things he needs to do to improve. Yeah, 1200 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 2: he Rookie of the Year doing all the different things 1201 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 2: he did, But how can I get better? 1202 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1203 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 5: What are the things that I need to work on? 1204 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 2: What were the tendencies I had, the weaknesses, all the 1205 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 2: different things that I did, and I mean just he 1206 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 2: continues to have that same type of humility that they 1207 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 2: had from the first moment he step to this building. 1208 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: So when you have him, you got other leaders like 1209 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 2: that part you got DQ. Really they said the standard 1210 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 2: of about Hi, we haven't arrived. Yeah, we did some 1211 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 2: good things, but we have not arrived. We have more 1212 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: that we more levels that we can get to. 1213 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 1: And somebody who's just been in the media world forever, 1214 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: like things were a little noisy this summer, noisier than 1215 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: I kind of thought they would be based on the 1216 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: loster they were bringing in. And it's why, just kind 1217 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: of circling back to the beginning, I'm glad this Terry 1218 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: stuff is over because it puts that to bed. That 1219 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: is not over. There's no more talking about it anymore. 1220 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: He's on board for here now into the future, and 1221 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 1: we can put that behind us and get back in 1222 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 1: the place where we were, which was everybody was rowing 1223 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: the boat the same way. It was just a little 1224 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: noisy this summer, and I'm glad some of that noise 1225 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: is clearing up before we get to the Giants. 1226 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 5: Week one, I think. 1227 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 6: We're all glad, right, I mean, I mean I wasn't 1228 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 6: here for that segment. I got to listen to it 1229 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 6: in the in the back over there. 1230 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 3: How do we do? 1231 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 4: It? 1232 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 6: Was pretty good. 1233 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 5: Shocked about it. 1234 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 6: I'm stoked, you know what I mean. 1235 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 4: I think when you look at a guy that can 1236 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 4: stretch the field vertically, has some route running nuance, and 1237 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 4: again like has a good relationship with Jayden. 1238 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 5: Like. 1239 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 4: One of the things we talked about this offseason was 1240 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 4: that receiver battle, and part of it was guys were 1241 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 4: having to step into rolls because Terry and Noah weren't here. 1242 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 4: So now it's like, hey, don't have to worry about that. 1243 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 4: We've got guys that are going to make plays and 1244 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 4: do good things. And think about that three deep now 1245 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 4: with Noah and Debo and how they can be so 1246 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 4: creative there in terms of getting Debo creative touches. Noah 1247 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 4: can take offset some of that stuff from Terry. So 1248 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 4: I think it's it feels like everything's right, feels like 1249 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 4: we can hit the season going full speed, which is 1250 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 4: exactly what you're talking about. 1251 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just get back to where we were, which 1252 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: is gum drops and sunshine. 1253 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 3: Because that's what it was last year. 1254 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 5: And I just liked. 1255 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 1: I liked that we've gotten some of the noise, you know, 1256 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: I like closed off all right. I think we've talked enough. 1257 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: I think we've talked about. 1258 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for this bench is like, 1259 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 4: no kidding, hurting really bad man. 1260 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 5: We can get a pant. 1261 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, like one of those like when you're watching your 1262 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 4: kids at the high school game, one of those. 1263 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 1: Pants, all rights breaking stuff. Logan and loud it up 1264 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: Brim next week. Full season preview on the Booth review