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Speaker 1: Just watch Dan Campbell and the Lions get a convincing

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Speaker 1: win against the Packers. Now they are in the driver's seat,

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Speaker 1: so we will dive into some things with the Lions,

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, meathead or good coach, Jared Goff resurrecting his career.

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Speaker 1: The Packers. Jordan Love's a fascinating one. I mean he

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Speaker 1: can also make plays that you're like, is that justin Fields?

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Speaker 1: So we will talk about him as well as the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Josh McDaniels, is he ever gonna win anything?

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Speaker 1: And Lincoln Riley's got a big game against a guy

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Speaker 1: named Dean Sanders come Saturday, big noon kickoff. Very excited

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Speaker 1: well as Stucky. Stucky from the Action Network will join

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Speaker 1: us Top Gambling. He's hot, He's winning a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start giving my pick every week. Last week

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Speaker 1: This week, I will give my pick. I have to

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Speaker 1: so they can bounce back. If you listen on Collins Feed,

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Speaker 1: in to this matchup that we just witnessed. Can I

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Speaker 1: Let's start with those lions, the Dan Campbell Lions. Let's

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Speaker 1: face it, they look good. They're three and one through

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Speaker 1: the talent the Lions possess. They have stud impact players everywhere,

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Speaker 1: Is he perfect? No, not a great athlete, doesn't give

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Speaker 1: Right McDaniel, all those guys, they've earned it. You score

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Speaker 1: look like that most games, right, It's gonna look like

425
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Speaker 1: the Patriot game. Honestly, that game was a lot closer

426
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Speaker 1: than you know, you actually think it was. When you

427
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: were watching it, You're like, how's this game? They still

428
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: got a chance. You can play defense against these guys,

429
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: which is not easy, especially the motions, the shifts he's moving.

430
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: These guys looks like Canadian football out there. Two guys

431
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: running three nine forties. But I'm fascinated to watch Josh

432
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: Allen this weekend. Another guy that I'm just interested to

433
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: see is For about twelve months, Lamar Jackson's contract was

434
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest stories in the NFL, and rightfully so.

435
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: It's like he had won an MVP, he had resurrected

436
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens. They were at odds over the money, all

437
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: these different angles of it, like his mom's representing them,

438
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: should he take the money? They offered him enough money,

439
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: they didn't actually offer him enough money. Who fucking knows,

440
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: But actually who cares because now he's under an enormous contract,

441
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: and I think he's looked beside a couple moments last

442
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: week against it, He's looked pretty good. He really has.

443
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's a looked closer to his MVP self.

444
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: Now he's got seven million injuries on his team. I

445
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: mean the entire team's injured, and I think this is

446
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: the type moment that you pay a guy like this

447
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 1: a lot of money for. It's like, yeah, we got

448
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: all these injuries, We're playing this awesome defense, We're on

449
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: the road against a divisional opponent, and Lamar Jackson just

450
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: finds a way to win it. This is why you

451
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: pay this guy all this money, right, it's for this moment.

452
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: It's one thing like the Bills beat the Dolphins, Like, yeah,

453
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: we've been beating the Dolphins, it's not even that crazy.

454
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: It's another thing when half your starters are out and

455
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: it's all on you. We pay you to almost overachieve.

456
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Speaker 1: And I'm fascinated to watch Lamar Jackson against this defense.

457
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Speaker 1: Reading some quotes from Jim Schwartz, Obviously their team speed

458
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Speaker 1: on defense, their physicality, this is just a fantastic matchup.

459
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: This is just one of the more dynamic quarterbacks we've

460
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Speaker 1: ever seen from an athletics standpoint, who's also good at

461
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: football against the defense that through the first three weeks,

462
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Speaker 1: you know, it looks like the Steve Curtain right now.

463
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Speaker 1: So if I'm the Ravens, I go listen. This is

464
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Speaker 1: on Lamar to just find a way. It's not about stats.

465
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: It's not about throwing three or four touchdowns or running

466
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty yards. It's just willing our

467
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: team somehow to a seventeen to fifteen victory. Just finding

468
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: a way to get us to beat a divisional opponent.

469
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Speaker 1: Because all of a sudden, we lose this game. You

470
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 1: look up, You're like, we might have some issues. You know,

471
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of injuries. We're not guaranteed to

472
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Speaker 1: win anything. This is why we pay you all this money.

473
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Speaker 1: So and this is why Lamar Jackson wanted all this money.

474
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Speaker 1: He's a star, and great players sometimes can overcome adversity

475
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Speaker 1: around them, bad play calling, injuries, And I'm fascinated to

476
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Speaker 1: see if Lamar can do it. Another couple guys, I'm

477
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: fascinated to see what happens is the Chargers and the

478
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: Raiders now the Raiders their home in Vegas constantly turns

479
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: into an away game. Right, they play the Steelers like

480
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: seventy percent Steeler fans, they play the forty nine Ers,

481
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: it's like eighty percent Nineer fans. They'll play the Chiefs.

482
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Speaker 1: It'll be a lot of Chiefs fans. I'd say the

483
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Speaker 1: Denver fans would travel, But who's traveling to watch this

484
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Speaker 1: Bronco team When they play a lot of big brands,

485
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: their fans are gonna pack Vegas. The one place Vegas

486
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: is gonna have a true home game is gonna be

487
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Now, listen, Staley. I'm done I scratching

488
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: my head over his crazy fourth down calls. I said

489
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Speaker 1: it last or early in this week, and I will

490
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Speaker 1: continue to say that He's been doing that since the beginning.

491
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Speaker 1: For those of us that follow this league and follow

492
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Speaker 1: him closely, we read flagged him early on in his

493
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: first year for doing stuff like this because it was

494
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: never working and he was constantly doing it. He didn't

495
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: just start last week. That is his MO. But if

496
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: you lose to the Raiders, like it's hard for me

497
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: to predict Dean Spanos, I do think if he started

498
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: zwing three, they would have left him in Minnesota. Maybe

499
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: it's on the table if he loses this game. But

500
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: I actually think the Chargers probably win because I think

501
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders are in shambles. If you follow just people

502
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 1: on social media, maybe you've seen around the NFL and

503
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: people that tweet different stats. Tyree Wilson the guy the

504
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Raiders drafted number seven overall. They passed on Jalen Carter,

505
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: which I don't think is totally crazy. Uh, but Jalen

506
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: Carter with Max Crosby probably look like a pretty good duo.

507
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Wilson's been objectively a god awful player, I mean just terrible.

508
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: He was one of those swing for the fences that

509
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: right now the ball is in the catchers mitt it's

510
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: like we got problems. And the Raiders they always feel

511
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: like in this position of they're not making any progress.

512
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: And I follow this team very closely for over a decade,

513
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: and it just every time they take a step forward

514
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: or two steps forward, it feels like they take seven

515
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: steps back. And if they lose against the Chargers in

516
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: front of home fans, they will be getting booed. If

517
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: it's not looking good. The Jimmy Garoppolo signing, and I

518
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Speaker 1: have a lot of respect For Jimmy, I think what

519
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: he did with the forty nine ers. Dude was a

520
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: tough dude. He really was limitations as a player, but

521
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: a guy. If your team was e Leape, you know,

522
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: you go to war with the guy. He looks like

523
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: a shell of himself. He just doesn't look very good.

524
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: And you can give me, you know, different schemes, relearning

525
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: an offense coming from Shant regardless, just pointing and throwing

526
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: picks to the other team like that. That's justin field

527
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson level stuff. Not a guy who's been a

528
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: starting quarterback and made one hundred and twenty five million

529
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: dollars in the league. It's pretty embarrassing. When I watched

530
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders, I think, how long can this continue? How

531
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: long can you be in a city full of stars,

532
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: bright lights and entertainment and just constantly suck. And Gruden

533
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: was on that ten year, one hundred million dollar contract.

534
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: He was a made guy. Unless something like what happened happened.

535
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: He was not gonna get fired regardless of what happened

536
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: for years. I don't know about Josh McDaniels. I think

537
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you know it right away, right Maybe I overhype

538
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: Brian Dabele last year was impressive. I truly believe that

539
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: his team wasn't that talented, and he willed the nine

540
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: wins coaching, grit, tenacity. They did not have to me.

541
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: They were like eighty percent coaching, twenty percent talent. Now

542
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: this year, maybe they're terrible. They lose on Monday Football.

543
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: Maybe there's not that good and maybe we anointed day

544
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: Ball too fast. The thing is Josh, we saw him,

545
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: then he went away and just became a coordinator again.

546
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: But the hype machine, you know, it's the key in

547
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: the football hype machine. Heype machine. Use your national reporters.

548
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Have Dan POMPEII write this article how you do a journal?

549
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: And then it's like, well, I think Josh has figured

550
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: it out. I bought into it. I was like, God,

551
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: I'd hire the guy. And then you watch him. You go,

552
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: this guy's just terrible at his job. I don't think

553
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: he's a good head coach. Now he's not doing well.

554
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: You could argue Brandon Staley last week kicking the field goal.

555
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes these guys getting these positions like what are you doing?

556
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: How does this make any sense? Now it's easy for

557
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: all of us sitting on the couch, eating a bag

558
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: of Dorito's with a Coke zero in our hand, or

559
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: a Guinness or a Guinness in our hand, watching the

560
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: game and thinking what it's harder on the sideline. But still,

561
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: some of these decisions are so egregious. The other thing

562
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: is the way you build your team, like you were

563
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: the one that brought in Chandler Jones, who is just

564
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: off the reservation on social media, who you refuse to

565
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: allow around the team because clearly I don't know something

566
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: weirds going on, and I just wonder how long you

567
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: can keep rolling. It's always easy to say for a

568
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: fan base, like hey, man, just suck this year for

569
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: the coach and then try to get Kayleb Williams or

570
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Drake May. But if I'm an owner and that guy

571
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: sucks to get me Drake May or Caleb Williams, there's

572
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna be many months where I sit there, either in

573
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: my suite watching the game or during the week in

574
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: all my big homes and whatever rich people sit and

575
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: hang out at and think about how much my coach sucks.

576
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: And now all these guys have the money to write

577
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Are's thirty million dollars? Leave? Because if I think you suck.

578
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: I can't keep you around. Brandon st He's not gonna

579
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: be the coach in twenty twenty four. That's a fact.

580
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: There is no chance on God's green Earth Brandon Staley

581
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: is the Chargers head coach next year. But the Josh

582
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: McDaniels thing is kind of fascinating, like how's this thing

583
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: gonna go? Because I also have the same thought about

584
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: Belichick and the Patriots. It's like, I like the Cowboys

585
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: a lot this weekend, and let's say the Cowboys covered

586
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: the six and a half and win the game, you know,

587
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: thirty to thirteen, and just kind of dominate them. It's

588
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: like I was talking to someone about it that knows

589
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Bill has been around him back in the day, and

590
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: I said, you think Bill could ever get fired? He's like,

591
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: no chance. And I'm like, I don't think he gets

592
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: fired like a Brandon Staley would get fired, or Jim

593
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: tom Sulla or Freddie Kitchens gets fired. But Bill Belichick's

594
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: never gonna be like you know what, Robert, I've just

595
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: lost my fastball. I don't think I can coach this

596
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: team at a high level anymore. Just let's have a

597
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: let's have a hug, will make public statements. You give

598
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: me a golden parachute, and I'll just go. I guess

599
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: I can't go with Couger Lynde anymore because we're broken up.

600
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: I'll just go find new girlfriend, hang out in Nantucket

601
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: and kick it. That's never gonna happen. The only way.

602
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I don't think it's working out anymore.

603
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Like we've seen it, we've done it. It's kind of over.

604
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: And if they're staring at a six win team last

605
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: year they win, you know, you start trending the wrong

606
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: way year after year. There's no hope either.

607
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: Right.

608
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: That's the thing with the Raiders, like where's your hope

609
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: to Well, we got Devonte Adams, Well, yeah, he's killing it

610
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: every game, and you're losing Max Crosby killing it every game,

611
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: and you're losing Belichick. You don't even have like sweet

612
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: impact players. Where are we going? What are we gonna do?

613
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: How would we upgrade a quarterback? I don't see it.

614
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: So I don't think I think Belichick's one of the

615
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: best coaches. If he's the best football coach I've ever seen,

616
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: and he's one of the all time greats any sport.

617
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: But things come to an end. You know that things

618
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: eventually end, the rubber meets the road, especially as you age.

619
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's in his early seventies and he's

620
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: stubborn as ever. So you start losing these games, which

621
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: he should. He's a huge under but all of a

622
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: sudden you look up and you're like, God, they're two

623
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: and six. I do think it's on the table this

624
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: year with the Patriots and last but not least, I

625
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: like this guy. I've met him a couple of times

626
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: back in the day before this podcast came to the

627
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: volume he came on. He's clearly impressive and earned a

628
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar contract to come to USC. And

629
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: people love the guy because he's an offensive innovator. But

630
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people just think, like this USC team

631
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: like playoff contender. I don't see it. I don't see

632
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: anything on defense. There's not a physicality about him. There's

633
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: not a grit to them. I like about eight teams

634
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: in college football better now. They're clearly better than Colorado. Right,

635
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Speaker 1: no one even objectively thinks USC and Colorado rosters are

636
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: even close. But like USC, like Arizona State, last week

637
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: was a game going into the second half in the

638
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: middle of the second half, because when you're not a

639
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: tough team and defense isn't a priority, I don't care

640
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: if you have Caleb Williams throwing to Randy Moss, Barry

641
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Sanders and Terrell Owens, you still are gonna give up points.

642
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna look up and it's gonna be fifty to

643
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: thirty eight. It's like, God, what is going on? That

644
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: is not a recipe to win in the playoffs and

645
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: definitely a national championship if the USC is real, I

646
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: don't think they are. To me, I view them as

647
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: like a ten to two team. Some people view them

648
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: like I don't even think they'll be in the pactor

649
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: of championship game. And I definitely don't think they're a

650
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: playoff team. Given the way this defense is playing, and

651
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Speaker 1: especially if they play like I think they're gonna play

652
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: on Saturday, I don't expect to change my opinion. But like,

653
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: this is the type game. What just what did Dan

654
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: Lanning do? And I know they were hosting the game.

655
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: They came out and they shoved Colorado around. It's not

656
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: about Caleb Williams throwing a million touchdowns. I know we

657
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: can do that. I know you're gonna score points. Can

658
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: you shove this team around? Everyone's gonna be watching. You know,

659
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be ten plus million people like the NFL.

660
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Jay Z's coming, Lebron and Browny are coming, ferreal Snoop Dog.

661
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a spectacle. But can you just show

662
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: up and beat the shit out of them like Oregon

663
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: did and kind of flex your muscles and show Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen, But to me, Lincoln

665
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: eventually needs to start doing that, or I don't think

666
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: he can beat Oregon Washington in Utah, or you know,

667
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: maybe he'll win one of three of those games. There's

668
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: a toughness to football. You see what the Lions. What's

669
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: a big point of difference for the Lions. They're really tough,

670
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 1: They're really physical. It's kind of what the Packers lack,

671
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: and honestly, they've lacked it for a long time. If

672
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: you gave Aaron Rodgers some of those like tough grittiness

673
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: that the Steelers have, that the forty nine Ers have,

674
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: that the Ravens have had over the years, maybe they

675
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: want some more playoff games, right. I think the Eagles

676
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: have it now, they just lack it and when you

677
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: lack toughness at the highest level of Division one football

678
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: and obviously in the NFL, it catches up to you

679
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: because there's a physicality element to the sport. As the

680
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: year goes on, the weather changes. Even if you're play

681
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: in southern California, you're still gonna end up in some

682
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: inklin weather's whether it be in Washington or Utah. You

683
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: gotta be tough. And I just don't see it, Like

684
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Speaker 1: I understand why Colorado's not that tough. They know in

685
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: the players, but usc you've bought half the country the

686
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: last couple of years, got all these transfers this offseason

687
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Speaker 1: from the SEC, like can you please show up? Let's

688
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: do the Guinness Boll Take of the week. And this

689
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: is hard because it's like you gotta be pretty aggressive.

690
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't want to say something I

691
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: totally don't believe, Like the Cardinals are gonna beat the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. You know when I said Alabama last

693
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: week was gonna lose Old Miss, I believe that. And

694
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Speaker 1: I talked to someone that scouts the SEC is like

695
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: that Ole Miss laid an egg, like that they should

696
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: be able to win that game. So I didn't even

697
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Speaker 1: feel that bad. I like my boll take because my

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Speaker 1: bold take of the week, brought to you by Guinness,

699
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Speaker 1: is Sean Payton, the ninety million dollar coach. Sometimes I

700
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: hear he saying he signed a ten year, hundred million

701
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: dollar contract. No, he signed a five year, ninety million

702
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: dollar contract. Think like an NBA player. He's getting paid

703
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: a premium. He's going to Chicago. Who everyone's been making

704
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: fun ton of memes out there this week is like

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Speaker 1: this game should be played at like three am. Send

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Speaker 1: this game internationally, agree, Funny. I kind of want to

707
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Speaker 1: keep an eye on this thing because I like the

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Speaker 1: Bears to beat John Payton. And if you think last

709
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: week was bad, and trust me, it was losing seventy

710
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: to twenty, but at least you can say, hey, this

711
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: is the most innovative offense in the league, all this firepower,

712
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Speaker 1: one of the bright young minds. You lost seventy something

713
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: we'll never forget, but at least it was to the

714
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: best offense in the league. You lose to the Chicago Bears,

715
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Speaker 1: who are objectively like you're equal, like just as bad

716
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Speaker 1: as you, yet your favorite in this game by several

717
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Speaker 1: points because you got Russell Wilson, and they got Justin Fields,

718
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: who will not be a starting quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. I think I think Eberflus or

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00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: as I used to call him, Uberflus breaks the streak

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Speaker 1: thirteenth games and beats. I don't see how you come back,

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Speaker 1: because the other thing is like, well, you got to

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Speaker 1: show some character, come out swinging after your big loss. Bears.

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Speaker 1: That the same thing. I mean, you're basically you know

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00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: same person. I think that's this, Like, what the hell's

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Speaker 1: Stucky's hot, Stucky, what's up bro on both?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, we're in the midst of it now.

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Speaker 2: It's uh we're gonna start to learn about although some

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Speaker 2: of these things we're not gonna learn about with the

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Speaker 2: at the top, we're not gonna learn about for a while.

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Speaker 2: But in college, like Michigan doesn't play, it still doesn't

772
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Speaker 2: planning one for like the next five weeks because the

773
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Speaker 2: Big ten is so bad at the bottom and Georgia.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't planning one all year, but learn a little

775
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: bit about them against Auburn this week and U yeah, NFL,

776
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: we got some pretty good matchups this weekend. Unfortunately, the

777
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: NFL doesn't flex games this early because Bill's Dolphins over

778
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson in primetime would would certainly be the move.

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Speaker 1: Shows you in college has much more flexibility with that

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Speaker 1: as the season goes. The NFL, and I don't blame him,

781
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: right Rogers versus the Chiefs, but clearly that changes four

782
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Speaker 1: plays in and it's like you're kind of stuck and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins are, you know, one of the teams of

784
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Speaker 1: the last I mean, I don't remember any team starting

785
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Speaker 1: this fast that people thought they were gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: But you want to get you score seventy pointsts and

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00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: you know, they got the quirky coach and they got

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00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: they kind of feel like the Golden State Warriors in

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Speaker 1: like twenty fifteen or something. You're like, Jesus, the hell

790
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with this team? But they're they're

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Speaker 1: they're the underdog. This weekend, we'll get into the NFL

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Speaker 1: here in a second. Now, I'm gonna do something a

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Speaker 1: little different. Start before we get to your picks. But

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Speaker 1: I did want to touch on because we talked about

795
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Speaker 1: this before we hit record here. I don't know if

796
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: you've seen the list of celebrities come into this game

797
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: in Colorado. It's like jay Z, Lebron and Bronny probably Obama,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who know. I mean, everyone's coming, legitimately, jay

799
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Speaker 1: Z and Lebron are going obviously to I think is

800
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Speaker 1: on the staff or something. He's always around. Shannon Sharp,

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00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: steven A probably make a cameo. This game is big

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Speaker 1: newon Kickoff. The ratings have been outrageous. Colorado got their

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00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: ass kick last week. They took it on the chin.

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00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: Pretty embarrassing, I thought, moment for them once the Oregon

805
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: video comes out of them talking shit to the other

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00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: plays like guys, you guys aren't Dean right, Let's be

807
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: careful here, and they ran into a buzsaw, which a

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Speaker 1: team that you know, I think has a legitimate chance

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Speaker 1: to be a playoff team in Oregon, USC in theory does.

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Speaker 1: But defensively they are not as physical as Oregon. But

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Speaker 1: offensively they are elite. I mean, they got a guy

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Speaker 1: that's gonna get drafted number one. They got skill, guys everywhere. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like the team times five of TCU style, Right,

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00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: it's gonna score a bunch of points, we'll give up

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Speaker 1: a bunch. I mean, I didn't watch the game, but

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00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: I went to the ASU game two weeks ago against

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Speaker 1: Fresno State, and Fresne State beat the shit out of them,

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00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: and then I'm following the score on my phone at

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00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: this wedding. It's like, what is USC doing? USC is

820
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: not some for every time they beat Stanford forty nine

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00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: to three going into halftime, you can look up and

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00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: it can be tied because their defense sucks so huge

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00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: line here Colorado getting twenty one plus points at home.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a lot man for a team that's

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00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, us Lincoln Riley's history, especially this last year,

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Speaker 1: and however many games of the USC their defense is

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Speaker 1: just not good. I don't care how many transfers come

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Speaker 1: from the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's basically just Oklahoma picked up and moved

830
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: out in Los Angeles. It's the same defensive coordinated with

831
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Speaker 2: the same problems that they just refuse to fix. And

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Speaker 2: the offense is elite. There's weapons everywhere. You have a

833
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: heisman quarterback. It's all the same shit that we saw

834
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Speaker 2: at Oklahoma, and ultimately what ends up happening is the

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Speaker 2: defense burns them because you run into another league team

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Speaker 2: that can score and you just can't get any stops

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Speaker 2: and they can. So, yeah, this number does seem I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: as you said, Fresno State shut out Arizona State. Arizona

839
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Speaker 2: State was shut out at home for the first time

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Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty eight. They had eight turnovers. I think

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Speaker 2: they used eleven quarterbacks. I don't know how many used,

842
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: but they used a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of They used three, they used three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who did nothing. And then it's like thirty five

845
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight because the USC defense just isn't that good

846
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: and you can you can move the ball, and then

847
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: and look, Colorado's flawed. Their offensive, it's not that great.

848
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: They can't run the ball. All the defense is thin,

849
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: and you know you're also missing Hunter, who's important on

850
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. But Sanders is playing at

851
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: such a high level that you know they should be

852
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: able to put up points against this USC team. And

853
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: then if it's a blowout, like USC blowing you out,

854
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: like if it's fifty six twenty eight in the four,

855
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Like you could go down and score a touchdown and

856
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: still cover in a complete blowout. So yeah, I was

857
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: all over at Oregon last week. The one thing that

858
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: concerns me that you say, you know, like but this

859
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: week I'm not laying twenty one and a half with

860
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: USC and that defense on the road. But every week

861
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: I think it's good for like building the program and

862
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: drawing attention to it for you know, potential future transfer editions.

863
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: But every week for Colorado is this huge spectacle, and

864
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: like it's every it's so emotional in this big event

865
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: that it's got to be exhausting for the kids. You know,

866
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: you a lot of these other programs that they're they're

867
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: now they're going to start playing your top teams in

868
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: the Pact. Well, you know, like they're beating the ship

869
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: out of you know, Cupcake State in week two and

870
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: they're not exerting much energy. Col Out is exerting energy

871
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: every single week. And then you're bringing all these you're

872
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: talking shit and then you're bringing all these celebrities in

873
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: like kind.

874
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Of a lot going on, a lot going on.

875
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're trying to and that serves as motivation

876
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: for these other teams to want to beat the shit

877
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: out of you. And when like in theory USC going

878
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: to Colorado if there wasn't all this hoopla around Colorado,

879
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: like that's supposed to be like a sleepy, trappy spot

880
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: for USC and their defense, But they're they're going to

881
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: come in fully focused. To me, I think it's a

882
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: little too many points with.

883
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: This USC D of all the weeks Dan Lanning will

884
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: have over the last last year and this year of

885
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: getting ready for good teams Washington, USC, Utah, that's like

886
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: serious football week, but he'll never have a week when

887
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: he's that favored by that much. This is easy to

888
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: like get the troops ready all week, so you're always

889
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: getting these squads now. To me, it's a little different

890
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: than the USC. The other thing with USC is because

891
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: Fox right, their biggest game of the week ratings wise,

892
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: is always that nine am for US on the West

893
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Coast kickoff, and Colorado's now been a raiding juggernaut. They

894
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: love putting that game there and they did it earlier

895
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: with Nebraska, and obviously they're doing it this week. Not

896
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: ideal for USC.

897
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, body clock kick.

898
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that is It's listen twelve thirty These once

899
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: you get to college, you get used of playing that time,

900
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: you'd rather probably play four. But that's a that's a

901
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: sneaky spot that I could see USC. I don't know,

902
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: I could just see it being weird, you know, Caleb.

903
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: Maybe just a little dreary, you know.

904
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Colorado's done it already.

905
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: Exactly, and they just got their ass kicked, so they're

906
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna be have just motivation to like play better. You know.

907
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: It's an easy and the place will be electric. So

908
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: if they can catch USC and that defense, which is

909
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: an great they can catch them early and jump out,

910
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, like all the pressure shifts.

911
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: You see the crowd. Is it going to be crazy?

912
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: You might get a couple calls and then all of

913
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: a sudden it gets really interesting. So yeah, that's a

914
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: great point that very early on in this game. If

915
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 2: Colorado is going to be live to make this again,

916
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: they gotta get out to a fast start.

917
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: Okay. One thing I wanted to do because people have

918
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: been asking, like Middleclough, you never make a pick, and

919
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: usually I used to just bet a lot of games.

920
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: I got this big remodel going on, so I gotta

921
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: be I gotta be careful with my cash. What I've

922
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: been doing is just going kind of big, and one

923
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: hundred dollars on a game doesn't get my rocks off,

924
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: So I don't I got if I'm gonna spread around.

925
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm just been going big on one game. Last week,

926
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: I did Seattle sweated it for a minute, but you

927
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: know they covered. This week, I've gone back and forth

928
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: on two games.

929
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: Uh, did you got Notre Dame last week?

930
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: So I didn't because I wasn't gonna be able to

931
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: watch it, But and I just I felt better. I

932
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: don't know enough about college football in terms of like

933
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: those two teams. I hadn't really watched Sam Hartman. He

934
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: had been beating nobody's I liked the number, but I

935
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: just I didn't know. I felt better about Seattle against Carolina,

936
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: who I knew sucked, especially once Dalton was gonna go

937
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: even though it was tough, but they scored thirty seven points.

938
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: Was crazy because Carolina's defense actually pretty good. So this

939
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: week I'm tempted, like I got two games circled obviously

940
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game, but you go, that's one of

941
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: those classic, like feels too big of a lock, right

942
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City are gonna kill him and then all of

943
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're just in a weird game. But like

944
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: Zach Will, that defense is playing really good, but I

945
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: just stayed away from that. I just don't think New

946
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: England's that good. I think their offense is. I think

947
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: Mac Jones as average as the day as long. I

948
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: don't think they're that talented. Their running game is a

949
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: shell of what it was a couple of years ago

950
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: when they made the playoffs and they could run down

951
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: people's throats, you know, defensively. Clearly, they can just make

952
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: the game ugly. I don't think they have like elite talent.

953
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: They've been banged up on that unit. Everyone because Dallas

954
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: kind of lays an egg in Arizona is gonna be like, oh,

955
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: Dallas is actually average. Dallas minus six and a half

956
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: at home. Like I viewed New England and listen, it's

957
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: no disrespected Bill. I do think he is an awesome coach,

958
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: and most teams, if you gave them this roster, would

959
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: probably win like three games. He's gonna win probably six

960
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 1: or seven. But they's still a six or seven win team,

961
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: And to me, Dallas is still on a given week

962
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: when they're playing right a top probably should be a

963
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: top five team, and last week they lose one of

964
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: their best players. Those guys are I wonder if that

965
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: rattled them a little bit. I'm going Dallas minus six

966
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: and a half and these are back to back weeks

967
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: now going all in on a team, a home team,

968
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: given the decent amount of points, but I just don't

969
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: think New England's a good And if I ranked Dallas

970
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: like fifth, i'd rank New England closer to like low twenties.

971
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: That's where I'm going.

972
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate it. It's a good bounce back

973
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: spot for Dallas. I think Dallas just got looked at

974
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: some injuries on the offensive line, they lose digs and

975
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: I also think that they just went in there and

976
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: completely overlooked Arizona.

977
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: They were terrible in the that zone too. I mean

978
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: they moved the bat.

979
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: They were in the red zone like six times and

980
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 2: didn't score anything. But you saw this with the Giant

981
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: even the Giants after loss, like they got down twenty

982
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: eight nothing Arizona. So I think a lot of these teams,

983
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna work in San Franz favor San

984
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: Francisco's favorite this week because you know, they just saw

985
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: Arizona beat Dallas, right, But I think a lot of

986
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: these teams knew how bad this roster was and just

987
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: assumed like it's going to be a free win. And

988
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: then you know, these are still professionals playing hard. So

989
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: I think Dallas has kind of got caught in a

990
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: sleepy spot. Yeah, I agree. I agree with your assessment

991
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: on mac Jones. But the Patriots, they're just they're a

992
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: weird team than me because they did play Philly really tough,

993
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: and they played Miami really tough, so they can ugly

994
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: up a game. And yeah, the run game isn't what

995
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: it was, but that's Dallas's weakness, the run defense. I mean,

996
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 2: Arizona ran for over two hundred against them, So yeah,

997
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: I can see. I could see New England, you know,

998
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: just uggling this up enough to stay with them the number.

999
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: But I agree. I think I think now this spread

1000
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: the lookout of line was minus seven and a half.

1001
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Now because Dallas lost, who cares if New England beat

1002
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. They basically just scored and then said we're

1003
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: good and punted the rest of the game. Yeah, but

1004
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: because Dallas lost to Arizona, you're now getting under a

1005
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: touchdown and a good bounce back spot at home. So yeah,

1006
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 2: I think from a market by low sell high perspective,

1007
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: I think Dallas is the spot. But I would be

1008
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: just a bit concern about New England ugling up this

1009
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: game enough. But I think it's Dallas or nothing.

1010
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Philosophically, I used to gamble a lot on overs

1011
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and then I got a little too

1012
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: deep into I started doing unders as well. I just

1013
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: and definitely in the NFL. I'm just not a big

1014
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: under guy. But that might be the play here, right,

1015
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean this this game could just be low scoring

1016
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys win. That's the one thing that makes me nervous.

1017
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: But you know, it's football. I mean last last week

1018
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: I was like, oh fuck, Carolin ain't scoring more than

1019
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: thirteen points. All of a sudden, you look up, You're like,

1020
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? Sah makes gambling, will

1021
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: just make the sweat fun. Okay, let's dive in. The Jags,

1022
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: who are headed overseas now for a couple of straight weeks,

1023
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: are playing in Atlanta, who is safe to say got their

1024
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: ass kick last week by the Lions. Yep, so the

1025
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: Jags have looked pretty terrible. And I saw Doug Peterson.

1026
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if screamed at like his offensive staff

1027
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: last halftime, but I think they had some words clearly

1028
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: they got worked, which I would say was one of

1029
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: the shockers of the week in term just for the

1030
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: casual fan, Like, are the Jags not good and offensively?

1031
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: Like one of the things I thought their formula is

1032
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: going to be an elite offense and be bad on defense,

1033
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: but be you know, like a top five to six

1034
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: offense in the league, and they have not been very

1035
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: good on offense so far. I don't like Atlanta, never have,

1036
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: never really will, but definitely not this team with Desmond River.

1037
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: I know you like the Jags minus three. Give us

1038
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: a sales pitch here.

1039
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, the Jags have not been good this year,

1040
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: but they're off back to back losses. I think this

1041
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: is a spot to buy them. They're going to a

1042
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: place that they're really familiar with Atlanta, you know, second

1043
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: straight road game going overseas, not as familiar there. And

1044
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: if you look at what Atlanta stuntif are, like you

1045
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: beat a rookie quarterback you were trailing in the second half,

1046
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: who has not looked good at all. In the opener,

1047
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: you beat green Bay by one. They were missing like

1048
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: half of their their best players.

1049
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: Kind of a weird win too. I mean green Bay

1050
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: should have won that game. I thought I watched a

1051
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: lot yeah.

1052
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, even without you know, a number of key players.

1053
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: And then you get drilled by the Detroit team that

1054
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: was dealing with a lot of injuries, and just the

1055
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: offense is not where you know, I thought it could be.

1056
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: They have a lot of different chess pieces and it's

1057
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: just they're just amstrong because their quarterback can't throw the ball.

1058
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: So just on the surface, this is Trevor Lawrence versus

1059
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter. I'm going to side with Trevor Lawrence, even

1060
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: though he doesn't look great this year, but you know

1061
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: he's That's something we've seen with Trevor Lawrence throughout his career.

1062
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: So art just inconsist and see right, we will have

1063
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: these stretches where it looks like the best quarterback in

1064
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: the NFL, and then you're saying, what's going on here?

1065
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: I think this is a good defense to face to

1066
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: kind of get back on track. And most importantly, and

1067
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: look the Jacksonville last week they got They lost by twenty.

1068
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: But they Yeah, they got a white fullback returning a

1069
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: kick for a touchdown, which was insane. The upman returns it.

1070
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of.

1071
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they but they actually outgained That wasn't as bad

1072
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: as it looked. But Lawrence has definitely been off. The

1073
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: defense isn't great, the secondary is awful, but they're really

1074
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: good against the run. The defensive coordinator is a Todd

1075
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: Bowles the Ciple Top Bowls. Defenses just by design are

1076
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: always good against the run. And this defense last year

1077
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: excellent against the run, bad against the pass. Same thing

1078
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: this year. Top two, all right, top top three. I

1079
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: should say in rush success rate EPA for rush allowed,

1080
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: you could throw on them, but you can't run on them. Well,

1081
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: what does Atlanta want to do. They're basically a service

1082
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: academy the NFL. They can't throw the ball. They just

1083
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: want to run, so they're not gonna be able to

1084
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: do that. Here you see Jacks will probably bring another

1085
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: se eighty down forced Ritter to beat him. I don't

1086
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: think he can, so I think it's a good bounced

1087
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: back spot for the Jacks. Jack's also been a bit unlucky.

1088
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: They're like twenty eight percent on third downs. That's like

1089
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson territory. Last year they were top ten in

1090
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: the league, and you know they're one of seven I

1091
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: think on fourth downs last year they were at fifty

1092
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: three to fifty four percent. So some of these late

1093
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: down variants and you know, special teams blunders have gone

1094
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: against him. That's just randomness. But I think it's a

1095
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: good bounce back spot and a good matchup most importantly,

1096
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: so you get the better quarterback, you get a good

1097
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: matchup for their defense, and in a place that they're

1098
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: familiar with. So I think three is a good number

1099
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: to layer. This is the look at lines like four

1100
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: and a half five. So now, because of the you know,

1101
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: back to back losses, Jags not looking great last week,

1102
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: you're getting three, And I disagree with that big of

1103
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: a move, especially because it's not like Atlantos impressed me.

1104
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Cleveland, Baltimore, you fall. I got a DM the

1105
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: other day from a Ravens fan. I do his mail

1106
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: bag thing and he's like, listen, I'm watching the Ravens forever.

1107
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: What's up with these injuries? Like why for years now?

1108
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: Or just guys dropping like flies constantly. It's just and

1109
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: I said, listen, it's football. You've seen it with the Eagles,

1110
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers a couple of years ago. Sometimes

1111
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: it's just kind of dumb luck. Now when injured guys

1112
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: keep getting injured, then it's kind of on you for

1113
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: keeping the player. But like, I don't know what else

1114
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: to say, besides it's football. Guys get injured.

1115
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Ravens. Guy is one of the blame.

1116
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Steve Saunders, the strength and conditioning coach, he got fired.

1117
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: Wasn't wasn't the problem? I think, Yeah, I don't know.

1118
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: I think it's just bad just bad luck. I mean.

1119
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: The one of the reasons why I really like the

1120
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: forty nine ers this year because because you have to

1121
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 2: ask yourself like, is there some systemic issue with how

1122
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: they're recovering, treating training when because the forty nine Ers

1123
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 2: have been in the top ten in adjusted games loss

1124
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: on offense and defense for like eight years. So at

1125
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: one point you're like, all right, how can this this

1126
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: keep happening? What if the forty nineands ever got good

1127
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: injury lock for an entire season, how dangerous would they

1128
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: actually be? Yeah, and the Ravens are going on like

1129
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 2: three straight years now where it is just horrendous injury.

1130
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: If you're down seven eight key starters already, and look, yeah,

1131
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: I like the Browns here in this game. This is

1132
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: similar to last week. I took the Browns, I faded

1133
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: thes my team, the Ravens, they just have two. I

1134
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: don't think the market's adjusting for how many injuries they

1135
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: have them. You're missing your top corner. You have the

1136
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: injuries at safety, You've lost your slot corner, debt pieces

1137
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: in the secondary. They don't have a pass rush anymore

1138
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: because Oway Ajabo or hurt. You've already lost Dobbins. You

1139
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: have other injuries at running back. You know Beckham wasn't practicing.

1140
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: You have injuries at wide receiver. Offensive linemen might come

1141
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: back this week, but there still might be hobbled and

1142
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: might not go. I mean, that's a lot of starters missing. Meanwhile,

1143
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: the Browns, he lost Chubb, but other than that, they're

1144
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: pretty healthy. And this defense I think might be the

1145
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: best in the NFL. They are dominating right now. I

1146
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: loved him coming into the year because last year they

1147
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: just had these communication issues. Just get a new defensive

1148
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: coordinator can fix that low hanging fruit. They add a

1149
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: bulk in the interior to fix the run defense, and

1150
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: you bringing wan Thornhill Dad to the safety group already

1151
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: have three really good corners. Miles Garrett is playing out

1152
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: of his mind defensive player of the year level. Last

1153
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: week he just destroyed, destroyed Tennessee to the point where

1154
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: Rabel just was shaking his head and they were just

1155
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: punting to get out of town at the end of

1156
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: that game. This defense is dominated right now. They're playing

1157
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: with so much swagger and confidence that I've only seen

1158
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 2: from like the most dominant defenses over the past twenty years.

1159
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 2: And Lamar is still learning this new offense under pressure.

1160
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: This season, He's thirty two out of thirty four quarterbacks

1161
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: quarterback rating, and he should be under pressure a lot here.

1162
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: And look, yeah there's no Chubb, but the Browns still

1163
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: should be able to run the ball a bit. But

1164
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: last week he saw Watson finally have a really good game,

1165
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: passing twenty seven of thirty three three hundred yards, and

1166
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: that was attack a Tennessee secondary that's dealing with some

1167
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: injuries a bit more vulnerable than the rund the same

1168
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: thing here, So I think that he can hit enough

1169
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: deep shots. This Brown's defense is playing so well. To

1170
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: put into perspective, the Browns success rate allowed on defense

1171
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: is twenty five percent. The next best is the Bills

1172
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: at thirty eight percent.

1173
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: What's considered success, So.

1174
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: Like if you gain you know, if you score on

1175
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: a play, you know, if you were to gain you know,

1176
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: four yards on first down, if you convert a third down.

1177
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: So people use different tweaks of different formats, but it's

1178
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: basically that like are you getting you know, you're having

1179
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: a successful first down play, then that was great. Successful

1180
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: you having a successful second up, third down is always

1181
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: that you convert a third down and then if you

1182
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown, obviously that's successful. Twenty five percent, next

1183
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: is thirty eight. Last year the defense that led the

1184
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: NFL was thirty nine and a half percent. They're at

1185
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: twenty five. Teams have had thirty nine drives against them.

1186
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: One has gotten into the red zone. It was last

1187
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: week on a miraculous four and four bomb that Tannehill

1188
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: just threw up. They didn't even score in that possession

1189
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: because Miles Garrett sacked Tannehill within a second and time.

1190
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: Even though Tannel was probably instructed to throw the ball away,

1191
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: he just couldn't even have time to throw it away.

1192
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Time ran out in the half and Tennessee ran the

1193
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: locker room because I didn't have any timeouts. I mean, this

1194
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: team should be three and now they gave up two

1195
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: fluky defensive touchdowns to Pittsburgh defense playing on another level,

1196
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: Raven's too many injuries, So yeah, I think Brown's get

1197
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: this done. I actually look, it could be low scoring

1198
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: division game, so I actually played instead of laning the points,

1199
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: I actually did play money line. I parlayed them money

1200
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: line with the forty nine ers money line, which I

1201
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: think is safe and that gets you even money because

1202
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: this could be a really low scoring game. I feel

1203
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more comfortable with the money line on

1204
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: Cleveland if someone wants to take that route as well.

1205
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: But I also like them. If you can get you know,

1206
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: two and a half up the minus one fifteen.

1207
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: Well, to me something to keep an eye on, and

1208
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: I've heard some people talking about it this week. I

1209
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: didn't watch that much of the game, though, I mean,

1210
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: I know about their talent up front, and obviously the

1211
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: corners are sweet. If this defense is like legitimately the

1212
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: number one defense in the league, all DeShawn has to

1213
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: be is operate like he doesn't need to be mahomes

1214
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: he s needs to be more dackish Jimmy Garoppolo is.

1215
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: And are we looking at a twelve thirteen win team

1216
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: because if I can't score on you, fuck I I

1217
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: have to score thirteen fourteen points a game. I mean,

1218
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: they're they're going to overwhelm people, right.

1219
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is THEFC, so it's still tough,

1220
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: Like you know, it's gonna there's gonna be some tough

1221
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: kiends in the NFC North. You're always gonna be in

1222
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: these absolute wars.

1223
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: They play the forty they play the forty nine ers.

1224
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: This year they play at Seattle. I mean they're gonna

1225
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: have some tough non conference games because that division plays

1226
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: the NFC East. Yeah, but excuse me, the NFC West. Yeah.

1227
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: The I will say that the schedule is kind of

1228
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: working out for them because you got you you gotta

1229
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: win over Sincy, you gotta win over since the in

1230
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: Week one when Burrow was banged up. And then you're

1231
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: gonna get the Ravens here who are dealing with a

1232
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: lot of injuries, and they get the forty nine ers,

1233
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: but that's after a bye week, so you get a

1234
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: bye week before that game, which is definitely gonna help you.

1235
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: And you know, you know who the Niners play next week,

1236
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Dallas Cowboys. So that's gonna They're gonna come

1237
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: off of war, so they're gonna be banged up. Someoneill

1238
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: get hurt in that game.

1239
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and then after that, you know you got

1240
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: Colt Seahawks, Cardinals.

1241
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, they play the Broncos this year, they get

1242
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: the Bears, they get Tech. I mean, they got how's

1243
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: this team if this defense just maintains this not a

1244
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: playoff team?

1245
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be. They should be a playoff team,

1246
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: especially because if you look at the Jets, the Jets

1247
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: are done. They were supposed to be in the conversation.

1248
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: You know, the Chargers are charging. They were supposed to

1249
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: be in the conversation. So yeah, you look around and

1250
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: you say, well, it looks like it's just gonna be

1251
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: the Chiefs from that vision, and you got the Bills

1252
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins, right, and then you're the AFC North.

1253
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: You're definitely gonna get two teams. And with with Barrow,

1254
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: looks like I think it it's gonna be the Browns.

1255
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: And then I think that the Ravens probably, but I

1256
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: think the Browns are certainly put team. I think they're

1257
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 2: actually gonna win the division. But you're right, he doesn't

1258
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: have to be great now. Losing Chubb is gonna hurt,

1259
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: like in some of those games where it's like a

1260
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: leasing battle and you can just he could just churn

1261
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: out those yards. But yeah, last year he was bad,

1262
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: which you can't have. He just has to be average.

1263
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: If this defense is gonna be as elite as it looks,

1264
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: and I think it can be.

1265
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, the only wild card would be like

1266
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: if they lose a weird like the pressure's on him,

1267
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: right because you know Miles and the defense is gonna

1268
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: be fine. You saw it on the Monday night game.

1269
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: It's like, what the fuck is going on here? So

1270
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: it's like they play in a couple of bright lights

1271
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: game like against the forty nine ers and he looks

1272
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: like shit and they lose seventeen to thirteen. That pressure

1273
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: on him, But god, I mean I didn't, I mean,

1274
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: we knew how good Miles is. Sometimes when you have

1275
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: a guy like that, like a Miles, like a Micah

1276
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: Parsons of Bosa, everyone else like even their random rotational

1277
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: guys get this like fake swag that turns into real swag,

1278
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: and they all of a sudden you look up, like, wait,

1279
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: this guy at seven sacks on the season. It's just

1280
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: because defensive linemen all rotate together. Miles Garrett could be

1281
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: playing with the seventh defensive line. You know, it's not

1282
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: like a normal position that way. So yeah, I might

1283
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: have underestimated them for sure. And then probably just I just.

1284
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: Looked real quick. I only have them an underdog projected

1285
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: underdog in three more games this year, none by more

1286
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: than a field goal. So yeah, I mean, and they're

1287
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: only going to face like a couple more teams.

1288
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: San Fran, you think they'll be Will they be favored

1289
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: assuming let's say the Niners beat the Cowboys? Would that

1290
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: would that be like a pick them?

1291
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: You think if San franc San Frian, maybe sant Fran

1292
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: minus one pick? I bet sanfa probably opens minus one

1293
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: Browns take money, probably closes a pick. But yeah, it

1294
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: will depend.

1295
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: That's a good Browns, that's a good morning game.

1296
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: Shit, great great game. It will depend on what Sanford

1297
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: obviously does against Dallas and then assuming Cleveland wins this week,

1298
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: because then you're not going to get another data point.

1299
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 2: But if Cleveland wins this week, San Francisco wins against Dallas, yeah,

1300
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: that's the one either way, that's space a coin flip.

1301
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go. Uh, let's go a game of the week.

1302
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: It's probably I said this on the pod yesterday. A

1303
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: team will never in the history of the league again

1304
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: give up seventy points and then you're favored the next week.

1305
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: That will never happen again in league history. Do you agree?

1306
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: An you scored and yeah, and the team that scored

1307
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: seventy points is an underdog.

1308
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: Do you think would you rather lose fifty to nothing

1309
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: or seventy to twenty because that's basically three more touchdowns

1310
01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 1: on top.

1311
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: I would say fifty to nothing because then you're always

1312
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: you're always going to be in the in like the graphic,

1313
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: Like in thirty years from now, when someone scores like

1314
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 2: sixty eight points, they'll say, here are the three we're

1315
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: you know, highest scoring games in NFL history, and your

1316
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: defense will live in infamy there. So I'll say fifty nothing.

1317
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: But the tackling it was, it was it was embarrassing.

1318
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: There was guys just on on the ground, just like

1319
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: not even dying. It looked like they quit.

1320
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: Well they did.

1321
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: It was embarrassing to me.

1322
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: Even though it's not technically the NFL record because it's

1323
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, it is no one will ever forget that.

1324
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: That's of age and watches football like seventy is the

1325
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: new modern day record in everyone's mind. So like Sean

1326
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: Payton ain't shaken that for a while.

1327
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they should have kicked the field

1328
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: goal to set the record. I mean, what is this,

1329
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: Like sportsman shul.

1330
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: Is like, come on, you could I remember Steve Steve

1331
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: Kurr did the same thing one time. Clay had sixty

1332
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: through three quarters, like let him try to get eighty

1333
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, he didn't play him in the fourth quarter.

1334
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: It's like, this is fun, it's sports, Like what are

1335
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: we doing? Yeah, you score seventy and uh, obviously you're

1336
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: playing one of the better teams in the league over

1337
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: the last three or four years, but you're an underdog

1338
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: and it's a team that you beat last year. Though

1339
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 1: that game was really weird, and statistically, you know better

1340
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: than me, it wasn't in an outlier situation than a

1341
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: team with you know, the difference in yardages and everything

1342
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: ever loses that game the Bills did. What's your thoughts.

1343
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bill's minus two and a half. It

1344
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: feels like everyone's gonna be on Miami this week. I

1345
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: would imagine they're taking a lot of public cash.

1346
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, a ton of big public side this week. But yeah,

1347
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: I like the Bills here. This line, the look I

1348
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: love is minus three and a half. So now you're

1349
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: getting you know, on you're getting two and a half

1350
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: because of what Miami did. But what is buff Buffalo

1351
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 2: last two weeks has beat two teams seventy five to thirteen.

1352
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: Like it's not like, I mean, Buffalo is rolling. That

1353
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: offensive line is playing well, which is the big question

1354
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: coming in the year. And what Miami did was unbelievable.

1355
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: McDaniel's awesome. That offense is great, and they did it

1356
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: without Armstead and Waddle by the way, but they did it.

1357
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: Their offense has exploded against the Chargers and the Broncos,

1358
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: who haven't been able to stop a Nosebley this year.

1359
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Sam Howe put up thirty two points in

1360
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: three quarters against the Broncos defense to come back from

1361
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: seventeen down. Sam how last week did nothing against his

1362
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: Bill's defense. He was sacked nine times, I think, and

1363
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: they got absolutely the seal club by Buffalo. And you know, Buffalo,

1364
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: they're look the way that I look at this game.

1365
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, when these two teams played late

1366
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: last year, Buffalo is a seven point home favorite. This

1367
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 2: is a big overreaction. And now you're coming down across

1368
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: the three and yeah, look it's a week. You never

1369
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: want to overreact to one thing that you've seen in

1370
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 2: the NFL. Miami's offense looked amazing last week. They rolled.

1371
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: But if you go back thirty years in the NFL,

1372
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 2: teams that went by more than thirty five points the

1373
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: next week, they're thirty eight percent against the spread. So

1374
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: teams that look, oh my god, they're went by thirty five,

1375
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: usually you might get a little over correction in the market,

1376
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: which I think we got here. And you know, go

1377
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: back to the the New Engle game. New England kind

1378
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: of slowed down Miami enough to win that game. They

1379
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 2: just didn't have an offense, right, They've been getting across

1380
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: the fifty and then you know, mec Jones and those

1381
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,520
Speaker 2: receivers just couldn't make enough place. But they had opportunities

1382
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: to win that game. Held Miami under thirty. There's some

1383
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: things that McDermott can take from that. McDermott's own to

1384
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 2: in the past. And Buffalo. Look, this is how I

1385
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: look at this game. Buffalo has an elite offense. Miami

1386
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: has an elite offense. Buffalo has an elite defense. Miami

1387
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: does not. Miami's defense right now, they're still trying to

1388
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: figure it out. You know, you're missing Ramsey Howard was

1389
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,799
Speaker 2: supposed to be their top corner. I think he's passed

1390
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: over the hill and past his prime. Yeah, that defense

1391
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: isn't great, So I just think and then look the specialties.

1392
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 2: Miami special teams last year, by some ratings, were dead

1393
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: last in the NFL. This year they've been bad as well.

1394
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: Buffalo last year, by some retrics, finished number one, So

1395
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: that could matter in a game that should could be close.

1396
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: So I have the team playing at home with the

1397
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: better defense and the better special teams, and in a

1398
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: matchup of two lead offenses. What I think that leads

1399
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: to is just Buffalo's D will get one or two

1400
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: more key stops in this game. Should be fun. But

1401
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 2: now to this line, you know you can get a

1402
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: cheap three or two and a half. I think that

1403
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: you have to take Buffalo here and soe Miami after

1404
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 2: what they did last week.

1405
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: Every to highlight of them doing something sweet, there's no

1406
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: one around them.

1407
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no pressure, never gets no pressure. I mean, and

1408
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: they blitz. They blitz a ton. I don't know what

1409
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 2: Vance Joseph is doing, but yeah, they get no pressure whatsoever.

1410
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: He was If you look at the defense, like an

1411
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:08,879
Speaker 2: advanced metric of all all the Denver defensive, it's like pressure,

1412
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 2: ray hurries, knockdowns, It's it's just I've never even seen it.

1413
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: It's just zero's it's just like no one showed out

1414
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 2: and did anything.

1415
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: You hit this guy the forty nine ers game last year.

1416
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: They came in, it was like, ah, there's gonna be

1417
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: a big game, and they just kept hitting them. They

1418
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 1: blitzed them, and it threw them off. Even if obviously,

1419
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: if he gets injured, it would throw Miami off. But

1420
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: if he's gonna play and stay, you know, you gotta

1421
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: hit him, whether that's blitzing obviously, Like you said, Buffalo

1422
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: can just generate pressure with their front, Like you hit

1423
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,879
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, there's a reason he took taekwondo

1424
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: this offseason. Try to learn how to fall because when

1425
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: he gets hit, he flies to the ground. He's not

1426
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 1: very big, so that's gotta be the key for all

1427
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: the big boys who were Now Miami's trying to act

1428
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: like they're in that category. We'll see. I mean, you know,

1429
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: beside the weather, which when you look at their schedule,

1430
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: they actually sneaky get to avoid if your BUFFALOGI you

1431
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: would have loved to flip the two games. You would

1432
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: like them to come to you December. You wouldn't want

1433
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: to go to Miami right now. But regardless of the weather,

1434
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: like hit to U and that's like, okay, will pepper

1435
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: you like a Mahomes or Josh Allen and can you

1436
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: maintain this, you know, scoring thirty honest, we'll see because

1437
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: I would bet no.

1438
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I mean Buffalo this year one of four

1439
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: teams with a pressure rate of over thirty percent, and

1440
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: they have a bottom three blitz rate, so.

1441
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: They don't even need to get pressure to blitz.

1442
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they's pressure at samhow fifty eight percent of his

1443
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: dropbacks last week and finished with nine sacks and barely blitzed.

1444
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: A lot of that is, you know how it is

1445
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: also holding the ball too long. But they should be

1446
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: able to get pressure and then the Buffalo defense, always

1447
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: under McDermott, always does a tremendous job in preventing exposive plays.

1448
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: It helps to have two just savvy veteran safeties and

1449
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: Hide and Puyer back there. So Miami's gonna have to

1450
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: work it down the field. They're gonna score. Offense is

1451
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: too good not to but I think Buffalo will get

1452
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: a cup key stops here and Buffalo's offense should should

1453
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: cook down the field against this Miami defensive.

1454
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: Do you think if if not very good, if Miami

1455
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,879
Speaker 1: loses this game, then that division's wide open, right, Buffalo

1456
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: has just good a chance in Miami to win it.

1457
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 1: If Miami does not win, the division is a wild

1458
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: card and has to go to places like Kansas City

1459
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: or Buffalo. I mean, let's face it, I would not

1460
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: put them on that level. Now. If they are able

1461
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: to win the division and get home games against them,

1462
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: then I'd give them a chance. But they they are

1463
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: like to me, if Kansas City was, you know, had

1464
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: to go on the road like they're the four seed.

1465
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they will be. But let's just hypothetically

1466
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: say I would think nothing of it. Right, even Buffalo

1467
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: I do believe that they could go on the road

1468
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen Miami at least until we see it. Like,

1469
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: I think they got to be the home team to

1470
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: have a chance come January just because the weather. I

1471
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: mean historically you fall trends like aren't they oh and whatever,

1472
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: and you know forty degree in below just as a franchise,

1473
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: because you can't manipulate that when it's eighty seven degrees

1474
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Speaker 1: January third at practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the one the one exit, you know, I

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Speaker 2: would make an exception as if they were going on

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Speaker 2: the road in you know, the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking of Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but all the all the places you're gonna play

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Speaker 2: are outdoors, and I see all the teams that you're

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Speaker 2: gonna face, you're outdoors in weather. So it's not like

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Speaker 2: you're you're going on the road and getting to play

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Speaker 2: like in New Orleans, right, even though it's ost environment,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna fast track. Yeah, You're you're going in weather

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Speaker 2: and you don't have a great defense. So yeah, you

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Speaker 2: want to be Miami's best shot. I agree. He's at

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Speaker 2: home and winning in shootouts against the other top tier

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Speaker 2: AFC quarterbacks and offenses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are a fun story and this game is

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Speaker 1: this is gets his own TV type game. I can't

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. So thanks ducky. Uh so you're going,

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Speaker 1: You're going Cleveland money line taking the Jags bright and

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Speaker 1: early in just I don't know if I'm watching much

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: of this game Jags versus Atlanta. And then uh, You're

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: you're going with the smart guys taking Buffalo minus two

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Speaker 1: and a half Miami. I'm gonna go with Dallas minus

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Speaker 1: six and a half against Belichick and you know, one

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Speaker 1: and three start Bill this is it could get ugly

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Speaker 1: in New England quick.

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Speaker 2: So ye three is you're you're close to dead in

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Speaker 2: the a f C.

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Speaker 1: Okay, stuck, You have a good weekend, enjoy college football,

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Speaker 1: and then, like I always enjoyed the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely rot your Cowboys, bet end Still Boys, Baby. The

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Speaker 2: volume