Speaker 1: Hey, listeners, Please note that today's episode contains topics surrounding
Speaker 1: suicide that some people may find disturbing. If you are
Speaker 1: someone you know are struggling, call or text nine to
Speaker 1: eight eight for the National Suicide Prevention Hotline. And that's
Speaker 1: what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's why you really miss podcast? The
Speaker 1: recap of On My Way? Oh man, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, so it's a competition episode. Therefore it's already going
Speaker 2: to be a fully loaded jam pack episode, but this
Speaker 2: one feels super inflated. There's so many things that happen Kevin,
Speaker 2: like huge, huge things all in one episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like could have been their own episodes, So yes,
Speaker 1: fully talk about it. This is season three, episode fourteen.
Speaker 1: Can you believe that On My Way and OMW was Well,
Speaker 1: that's fitting. This was aired on February twenty first, twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: The number one song was Stronger Who Doesn't Kill You?
Speaker 1: By Kelly Clarkson Convenient, which was also featured in this episode.
Speaker 2: The number one movie in the country was Safe House,
Speaker 2: Dens Out Washington and Ryan Reynolds and Vera Farmiga and
Speaker 2: another movie I Don't think this is real jampacked and
Speaker 2: in Glee used this week Kevin.
Speaker 1: On February twenty first, Costume Designer Ah the one and
Speaker 1: Only lou Iirick and Jennifer Eve one Outstanding Contemporary Television
Speaker 1: Series for their work on Glee at the fourteenth Annual
Speaker 1: Costume Designer's Guild A Words as they should, Yes they
Speaker 1: are beasts. And on February twenty first, twenty fifteen, same
Speaker 1: day that Lou and Jen won their award, Glee wrapped
Speaker 1: the production of the show on the last episode ever.
Speaker 1: We wrapped in February, Yes we did, because I moved
Speaker 1: very shortly after, and you left very shortly.
Speaker 2: I went to London on the sixteenth.
Speaker 1: I think I was very shortly after. Okay, So this
Speaker 1: episode was directed by the sweet, Sweet and recurring director
Speaker 1: now Brad Baker. And there's some really great, huge songs
Speaker 1: in this number in this episode as well. Tell Me
Speaker 1: the song Kenna.
Speaker 2: Coughs Europe Young the Giant Stand by Lenny Kravitz, Glad
Speaker 2: you came by the Wanted Fly, I Believe I Can Fly,
Speaker 2: Nicki minaj Rihanna R. Kelly, What is Kelly? Make You Stronger?
Speaker 2: By Kelly Clarkson and Here's to Us by a Hailstorm,
Speaker 2: and there was an unreleased song, she Walks in Beauty
Speaker 2: by Eric Barnett. I mean, that was a lot of music,
Speaker 2: but it is a competition episode, so there's always going
Speaker 2: to be a lot.
Speaker 1: Can Belie were already to competition?
Speaker 2: I know I was. I skipped ahead last week to
Speaker 2: watch the competition, as I usually do because I get
Speaker 2: very excited about the numbers. I wanted to be reminded about.
Speaker 1: What was coming coming. I feel that, well, they're definitely bangers.
Speaker 1: So there's some fun facts about this episode. This was
Speaker 1: the winter finale, so this was aired in February and
Speaker 1: the next episode of Glee airs on April tenth, which.
Speaker 2: Makes sense of why there was so much happening. It
Speaker 2: felt like a finale for sure, right cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: And there were quite a few scenes that were cut
Speaker 1: from this episode.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about them that were actually in the promo,
Speaker 2: and we were talking with our producer Sam and like,
Speaker 2: some of those scenes were needed for context. They weren't necessary,
Speaker 2: but they were important because there were a couple of
Speaker 2: things that happened in this episode and we'll get to
Speaker 2: but I was like, well, this is just sort of
Speaker 2: thrown in here, like why is this happening? Like I
Speaker 2: know what it's serving in the end, but with the
Speaker 2: deleted scenes, it makes so much more sense.
Speaker 1: There's a cut scene from the original script also in
Speaker 1: which Kurt and Blaine talk about Krowski and Blaine sees
Speaker 1: that Kurt's upset about Krovsky and suggests that he visits
Speaker 1: them in him in the hospital, but Blaine offers to
Speaker 1: drive him to the hospital and we in the car
Speaker 1: to make sure Kurt's okay afterwards. But that would have
Speaker 1: been nice to see.
Speaker 2: That would have been sweet. I get why you don't
Speaker 2: necessarily need it, yeah, but like it speaks to their
Speaker 2: characters well, especially with what's going on with Kurowski's character
Speaker 2: and all the things surrounding it, Like all the support
Speaker 2: that everybody can give each other and come together with
Speaker 2: in this episode I think was really nice, you know,
Speaker 2: even if it didn't make it in like they were
Speaker 2: thinking about that well and like to see the gay
Speaker 2: character specifically talking about that. Yes, yes, it would have
Speaker 2: been Oh yeah, it's sort of like similar to the
Speaker 2: Santana coming out story, Like there were some things there
Speaker 2: that would have been nice to have been able to
Speaker 2: see by the gay characters. Right.
Speaker 1: This is the first time out of all three seasons
Speaker 1: at Kurt performed a regionals and one so victory victory,
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that we were thinking about that.
Speaker 2: But there was also Needy Leeks was announced to be
Speaker 2: in this episode, and she and Chris both tweeted a
Speaker 2: picture of the two of them together on set during regionals,
Speaker 2: but she didn't make it and was not credited. It
Speaker 2: must have been this script must have been huge.
Speaker 1: It must have felt like a big chapter book.
Speaker 2: Say that again, Jenna, a chapter book. I haven't heard
Speaker 2: that accent years out of you.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where it came to,
Speaker 1: be honest, but chat the book, okay. And all songs
Speaker 1: in this episode were performed in the auditorium. No locations
Speaker 1: once again. They're like, hey, we're not going to go
Speaker 1: on location, which was fine. I just preferred to be
Speaker 1: like at home on our on our turb and also
Speaker 1: behind the scenes like in our own trailers and everything.
Speaker 2: So there's obviously a very serious storyline that happens this episode,
Speaker 2: but as a different time so there was no trigger
Speaker 2: warning at the start of this episode. But in the
Speaker 2: middle of the episode, a PSA aired for the Trevor Project,
Speaker 2: which is an organization that works to prevent LGBT suicide
Speaker 2: of the Suicide Hotline or an incredible organization. During and
Speaker 2: after the original airing of the episode, calls and chat
Speaker 2: messages to the Trevor Project the Suicide Prevention Hotline grew
Speaker 2: by three hundred percent jeez, which I guess means that
Speaker 2: the right needed audience is watching this series. But the
Speaker 2: same time, thank god Shrevor Project exists.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they were equipped for it because I think
Speaker 1: they worked with the show and they knew it was coming,
Speaker 1: so they were prepared. And then also Diana said it
Speaker 1: in an interview with TV Guy that she knew about
Speaker 1: the crash in November and even helped Ryan come up
Speaker 1: with some of that story.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: M hmmmm, I don't think we knew about it. No.
Speaker 2: The idea for the character to get into a texting
Speaker 2: wele driving accident has been under consideration since April twenty ten,
Speaker 2: and was inspired by the appearance of the cast on
Speaker 2: The Oprah Winfrey Show. At the time, the cast members
Speaker 2: signed contracts pudging not to text while they were driving.
Speaker 2: An Oprah initiative. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very vividly. I actually think about that often, really,
Speaker 1: every time you go to text and drive, yes, even
Speaker 1: thinking about where's my phone. It's like Oprah said, not too.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I always think about Oprah. It's it
Speaker 1: just puts a point on the thing that you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. So true. It worked at least
Speaker 1: for me. And then the scene where Quinn is hit
Speaker 1: by the truck was used in a PSA about texting
Speaker 1: and driving as well.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of outreach for this episode. We
Speaker 2: got Trevor Project, we got Hope Yes, and we got
Speaker 2: another via.
Speaker 1: Good This is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When Rachel reads the text message from Quinn saying ran
Speaker 1: home to get my bridesmaids dressed. Be there soon, her
Speaker 1: phone shows it it's February ninth to twenty twelve at
Speaker 1: eleven oh one pm. Just before that, the clock on
Speaker 1: the walls is four fifty five pm, and the Regional's
Speaker 1: Finchal wedding takes place after Valentine's Day. In addition, when
Speaker 1: Rachel texts Quinn later, Quinn's phone shows the time is
Speaker 1: four forty one pm. I love that love that shit.
Speaker 2: I love that there was a saying when those little
Speaker 2: details would happen, or we'd be I don't know, working
Speaker 2: on an outfit, or they're a people are paying attention
Speaker 2: to that. Yes, we're doing something wrong. And then I
Speaker 2: did a movie and I was talking to wardrobe and
Speaker 2: they were fixing something, and then I said that and
Speaker 2: everyone stopped and looked at me, and the head wardrobe
Speaker 2: person goes, the costume center goes, oh, that's a TV saying.
Speaker 2: You spent too much time working on TV, because we
Speaker 2: don't think that way.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, ooh oh, let me shut my mouth,
Speaker 2: let me mind my business, because I really I felt
Speaker 2: like I stepped in it. And then I went back
Speaker 2: to Glee and I was like, may should we be
Speaker 2: concerned about these details?
Speaker 1: Because because I.
Speaker 2: Got let out and experienced the real world and they do.
Speaker 1: Get told, you got told. I was going to say, like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't sound right to me, but I guess it
Speaker 1: is TV. And we were doing twenty two episodes.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly.
Speaker 1: Mitch Grossi from Pandatonics was one of the golden goblets
Speaker 1: in the competition.
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, Yes. The reactions to this were strong and
Speaker 2: varied by reviewers Rolling Stone described it as an emotional
Speaker 2: rollercoaster that at times may have been jarring or heavy handed,
Speaker 2: but overall did what a winter for NIALI should, gave
Speaker 2: us plenty of surprises while setting things up for the future.
Speaker 2: Hmm okay, all right, I mean, speaking of the deleted scenes,
Speaker 2: there is a bridesmaid deleted scene with the adds an
Speaker 2: incredible amount of context to the.
Speaker 1: Rachel and Rachel. Yeah, it really just gives the scene
Speaker 1: where Quinn tells to Rachel she is going to come
Speaker 1: to the wedding and there they hug just a little
Speaker 1: bit more justification.
Speaker 2: Because it's weird, and it's also like, why is she
Speaker 2: so adam about waiting for her? Why is Quinn late?
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't know, but I will say that scene,
Speaker 1: I am. It's a long scene, Like we could have
Speaker 1: gotten to the point faster and maybe they just couldn't
Speaker 1: cut into the scene. So maybe that's why. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we did shoot that scene. It was a Friday night,
Speaker 1: it was a Friturday and it was really late, I
Speaker 1: mean midnight, one o'clock, two o'clock. I think we got
Speaker 1: out of two that night, and we had a good time.
Speaker 1: We played dream Wedding the whole time the girls while
Speaker 1: we were waiting for setups, and we all like kind
Speaker 1: of named our dream weddings. We had a really fun
Speaker 1: time shooting it, but it was really late, and the
Speaker 1: fact that it was really late on a Friday night
Speaker 1: and then it got cut, You're like, oh, cool, cool, awesome,
Speaker 1: that's great.
Speaker 2: You guys had all the bridesmaid dresses, you know. Okay,
Speaker 2: here's the official Fox publicity summary. Things heat up as
Speaker 2: the new directions go head to head with Dalton Academy
Speaker 2: Warblers at regionals.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: What an understatement of a summary.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: So, I mean we have Kurowski, right, we have a wedding,
Speaker 2: we have quins, and we have Regionals, which involves Sebastian.
Speaker 1: Right, There's a lot going.
Speaker 2: On happening, and I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Sue being pregnant. This is kind of
Speaker 1: like an off side thing we'll see later, so let's
Speaker 1: just talk about it. So Sue is pregnant. She's actually pregnant,
Speaker 1: and she we kind of see this like softer side
Speaker 1: of her, if you will. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: that soft, but.
Speaker 2: And I see genuine.
Speaker 1: I guess. So she wants to help the new directions
Speaker 1: with nationals because she's feeling the hormones. I guess.
Speaker 2: So we're in for something with Sue coming up. But
Speaker 2: I loved her at scenes with Quinn. I thought those
Speaker 2: were really great. And post Generals, she's like, oh, I'm surprising.
Speaker 2: I didn't think you'd show. I thought you'd be exhausted
Speaker 2: after eyeing and owing in the back ground. I laughed
Speaker 2: for a couple of minutes after that.
Speaker 1: Very funny. And she gets Quinn her cheerios position back
Speaker 1: in her uniform and she's wearing.
Speaker 2: Her UNI wants to go out with a bang. You know,
Speaker 2: did we talk about Koski?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think we have to because it affects everything else,
Speaker 1: right does Okay, so.
Speaker 2: Let's start at the top. So after being seen at
Speaker 2: Breadsticks with Kurt Krofski, now at a new school, gets
Speaker 2: bullied in the locker room, very powerful scene. And as
Speaker 2: Curt and Blaine meet up on the auditorium stage and
Speaker 2: Blaine starts to sing in Costs Europe, we go through
Speaker 2: the process of seeing Korofski attempt suicide mm hm, and
Speaker 2: talking to Max about this was like very very illuminating.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we had to have him back, yeah, to
Speaker 2: talk about this and having Brad Beeker be the one
Speaker 2: to direct this, and you can tell in the way
Speaker 2: it's edited, with the with the music and there was
Speaker 2: no that is such a heavy, heavy thing to show,
Speaker 2: especially on primetime network television, a teen.
Speaker 1: Show and a team comedy as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they nailed it as best they could,
Speaker 2: hands down, hands down. Max acted his ass off, Darren's cover.
Speaker 1: Of those serious seasons and serious.
Speaker 2: I think it's like Brad's direction of this and the
Speaker 2: scene after words with you know, the teachers being told
Speaker 2: in Jama saying this, yeah, like if if we're if
Speaker 2: it's not our responsibility, like who's this is it? And
Speaker 2: the dad find There's also several shots which never normally
Speaker 2: happened in the show. You see flashbacks, right, which we
Speaker 2: haven't seen for a while, and you see like different
Speaker 2: characters have flashbacks, and I think all that is probably
Speaker 2: made the story so much richer and I feel like
Speaker 2: are probably beaker calls totally and are probably add up
Speaker 2: to why some of those other scenes were cut, But
Speaker 2: they serve the things that are in there so well
Speaker 2: that you need them.
Speaker 1: Well, you can't just like gloss over Krovsky's storyline, Like,
Speaker 1: of all the storylines that are happening in this episode,
Speaker 1: that is not the one you gloss over. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't do it anything justice any of these real stories
Speaker 1: that you hear, you know, any of these real people
Speaker 1: who were suffering or struggling with their mental health like that,
Speaker 1: this is this is the storyline of the episode.
Speaker 2: So what's interesting to me is that, like we said,
Speaker 2: there was not a trigger warning before the episode, right,
Speaker 2: but I feel like trigger warnings were not really a
Speaker 2: thing until Thirteen Reasons. Why.
Speaker 1: Hmmmm is that that one?
Speaker 2: And I'm it may not it may not be correct
Speaker 2: in this, but I feel like there was a really
Speaker 2: big campaign as soon as that show came out, Yeah,
Speaker 2: to add trigger warnings to things.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, that's a that's a good observation, Kevin, And
Speaker 1: that feels like the right timing around it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we were a couple of years too early.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also that show was everything was leading to that act.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that it is that story that is the
Speaker 1: storyline of the or the log line right of the show.
Speaker 2: But so obviously KS doing this then has ramifications to
Speaker 2: every other plot and character right on the show because
Speaker 2: it obviously since shock waves around to everyone.
Speaker 1: I mean it affects Rachel and Finn's decision to get married. Yep,
Speaker 1: it it is a huge well, the storyline is a
Speaker 1: just care is a huge carry for Kurt and Blaine
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of this episode. And then that beautiful
Speaker 1: scene between Krovski and Kurt at the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: Man that one of us really got me. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: did a beautiful job and they really did like everything,
Speaker 1: the whole village of a team that you know, Glee
Speaker 1: is really put the timing Karen to that storyline. So
Speaker 1: I'm happy and I hope people feel that way when
Speaker 1: they watch it because I did. But yeah, it has
Speaker 1: it sends shock waves through the school, and it changed Sebastian.
Speaker 1: Sebastian was blackmailing the team, saying horrible things per usual.
Speaker 1: He's really that he was really the villain, like vile,
Speaker 1: like he really said like the most horrible things. I
Speaker 1: don't think I like that clicked for me and in
Speaker 1: the time we were when we were like doing it.
Speaker 2: No, because there's a difference. There's a difference between Sue
Speaker 2: can say horrible things. Santana has said horrible things, right,
Speaker 2: but it's always with like a tinge of comedy. Some
Speaker 2: things are more harsh than others, but you know their
Speaker 2: heart and special characters. Yeah, and we don't know enough
Speaker 2: about him. Grant like talked thoughtfully about it, where like
Speaker 2: he assumed he had some sort of you.
Speaker 1: Know, terrible home life and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That would cause that, which makes sense, but as an audience,
Speaker 2: we don't know that. And then he comes around because
Speaker 2: lo and behold, Sebastian was horrible to Krosski. Kiarowski was
Speaker 2: trying to meet guys and like do things the healthy way, right, right,
Speaker 2: and then he insulted him.
Speaker 1: It's the first time we see the human side of Sawashian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the first time we see any humanity in him,
Speaker 1: and dedicating the you know, regionals to Krofski and really
Speaker 1: just saying like, let's call this the truth. And that's
Speaker 1: I think he was really affected by it. Everybody like
Speaker 1: saw their actions and how they were could have potentially
Speaker 1: affected Korowski's mental health in some way, because.
Speaker 2: You don't think about that when you're around people every
Speaker 2: day and you may say flippant comments to someone that
Speaker 2: you may do nothing and you don't know how that's
Speaker 2: compounding with other things that are going on in that
Speaker 2: person's life, right, And how they sprinkled those moments in
Speaker 2: in this episode with all the other storylines was just
Speaker 2: very well balanced. Yes, well, I still was like I
Speaker 2: don't believe Sebastian, Like I'm just like I was scared
Speaker 2: to trust Sue. Hmmm, was like I want to help
Speaker 2: the Glee cub win because I think you're going to
Speaker 2: do this thing, like I want to believe you, and
Speaker 2: Sebastian's like, I want to believe you, right, but your
Speaker 2: history says.
Speaker 1: Like I shouldn't. Right. Well, and to be fair, it's
Speaker 1: a TV show. You can't have somebody like being showing
Speaker 1: no remorse whatsoever over such a sensitive storyline or else
Speaker 1: they may as well not be on the show, correct, Right.
Speaker 2: The Finn and Rachel storyline, that blackmail situation, that choir
Speaker 2: room scene was obvious one of those storylines that was
Speaker 2: like pulled from stuff that was going on in real
Speaker 2: life in terms of people want to people want to
Speaker 2: talk about you, people want to bring you down now
Speaker 2: that you're like in the public, which I thought was
Speaker 2: pretty funny. It was one of those things like, yep,
Speaker 2: this is note to us be careful. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: a nice little shout out from the writers to us too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: lock it up, just call space space Yeah, like write
Speaker 2: note taken.
Speaker 1: Cool. But they just thought they're gonna get married and
Speaker 1: her parents are you know, Jeff Jeff Goldbloom and Brian
Speaker 1: Stokes are like, we did something wrong. Shit, we've messed up.
Speaker 1: But they're gonna they're gonna get married. And I didn't
Speaker 1: know it was this episode. I was like, oh, we're here.
Speaker 1: We're here because everything is here. It happens feel like
Speaker 1: a winter finale. It feels like a finale finale, season finale.
Speaker 1: But that leads to the Quinn of it. All Right,
Speaker 1: So there's a scene, there's the bride's maid scene that
Speaker 1: explains a little bit more about the Quinn journey that
Speaker 1: we're seeing here. So Quinn in a past episode, they're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, getting engaged, and Quinn's like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to Yale, Like don't you want to start over?
Speaker 1: Don't you want to like see your potential? Like we're
Speaker 1: just getting started. And then in this episode, Quinn in
Speaker 1: the in the the bridal shop is saying to Rachel,
Speaker 1: I'm the only one who doesn't agree with this, this marriage.
Speaker 1: You're hiding in Finn shadow, You're you're scared, like I
Speaker 1: can't wait to go to Yale and like start anew
Speaker 1: And I've never seen this Rachel Barry before, essentially, and
Speaker 1: to some extent, she's right, like these kids are so young.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it really matters the opinion of
Speaker 1: like if they should or shouldn't get married. I think
Speaker 1: it's more about like why she's choosing to do it
Speaker 1: or why these kids are choosing to do it.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting that it's Quinn saying it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, But I think because Rachel has always kind
Speaker 1: of like idolized Quinn but been jealous, and they've always
Speaker 1: been kind of pitted against each other, like it's a
Speaker 1: good person to go up against her. And and I
Speaker 1: like that scene, the Bridesmaid scene. It's online, you can
Speaker 1: you can you can google it because it really does
Speaker 1: justify when Quinn's like when they're in the hallway and
Speaker 1: she says, I AM going to come to the wedding
Speaker 1: and they have this big hug and Rachel's so happy
Speaker 1: that I was. It felt like it was a little
Speaker 1: bit out of nowhere. It's not completely necessary. I think
Speaker 1: we got the idea, but like, Quinn's going to go
Speaker 1: to the wedding, right, she didn't agree with it, and
Speaker 1: she's going to go. But that leads to this texting
Speaker 1: and driving accident that will we'll see in April. Where
Speaker 1: is Quinn? What happens in the middle of bo a cornfield?
Speaker 1: She's literally driving in a cornfield. She's like, they're supposed
Speaker 1: to get married. They have a slot like alloted time
Speaker 1: to get married at the courthouse, and he said, we
Speaker 1: have like four minutes or something. She's not going to
Speaker 1: be there in four minutes. She was on her way
Speaker 1: to get her dress, like so far. I guess they
Speaker 1: could say. If I'm listening to Ian. In my mind,
Speaker 1: he's saying her.
Speaker 2: House is really close. The logistics didn't add up. But
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: It's good because the most important thing is that Quinn
Speaker 1: is looking at her phone and shouldn't be. Now.
Speaker 2: Did you ever when you read that do you ever
Speaker 2: think like, oh my god, they're killing her off?
Speaker 1: I did? I did. I was like, what is going
Speaker 1: to happen? And in my mind, like most TV shows
Speaker 1: that you don't aren't so ruthless with their characters. Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's not going to die, right, like we're
Speaker 1: going to see her, Like they're not. They can't kill
Speaker 1: her off. But we are close to the end of
Speaker 1: season three, Like I don't know, there's something about it
Speaker 1: that I was like, did she has to get off
Speaker 1: the show? And like this is how they're doing it?
Speaker 1: Did you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I thought it felt like that, but like we obviously
Speaker 2: would have known. It wasn't like Game of Thrones where
Speaker 2: people were getting killed off every week and they'd give
Speaker 2: you a call.
Speaker 1: Like hey, like we would have we would have known, yes,
Speaker 1: like Dana would have told us, or like somebody would
Speaker 1: have told us.
Speaker 2: It just makes me a little like hmm, knowing that
Speaker 2: Dana had like a part.
Speaker 1: In writing the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, Like.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, because she's just in movies, like she was getting
Speaker 2: asked to all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, she was the catin Heigel of our show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, because you don't really have time
Speaker 2: to do anything else so.
Speaker 1: Hard, like they let you. You're under our contract. It's
Speaker 1: a very specific contract. So okay, so Finn's gonna get
Speaker 1: in a really big accident, and there will be a
Speaker 1: big storyline that we'll see at the end of season.
Speaker 2: I'm still standing everyone, Oh my god, get ready skip
Speaker 2: over that.
Speaker 1: And then we're at regionals all while these fifteen storylines
Speaker 1: are happening, happening before and after we're performing at regionals.
Speaker 1: There's a trouble Tones number because if you remember a
Speaker 1: few episodes ago, they asked us, you know, they asked
Speaker 1: Troublements to come back to Glee to the new directions
Speaker 1: and they will get a number. I did forget about that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is happening right now? I
Speaker 1: did too, but I was like, I don't care. Oh
Speaker 1: it is a banger, that number. I still know all
Speaker 1: the dance moves. I remember it all. I was like,
Speaker 1: put me in, coach, put me in. But we win.
Speaker 2: Did you like this performance?
Speaker 1: I loved the trouble Tones. I remember not loving this.
Speaker 2: Song, like as a weird mashup right.
Speaker 1: Being like, Okay, I don't know that I would have
Speaker 1: said we won from that.
Speaker 2: I mean, objectively, I feel like this is one of
Speaker 2: the first times where I feel like we sort of
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 1: The winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, yeah, I do. I think we sort of
Speaker 2: nailed it. Okay, it's a weird mashup, but I still
Speaker 2: think like we performed.
Speaker 1: I just say the glad you came there. Like was
Speaker 1: I loved very I don't know. For me, it was
Speaker 1: like the opposite.
Speaker 2: The whole time the Trouble Tones were performing, I was
Speaker 2: filled with rage because from a music standpoint or a
Speaker 2: music executive standpoint, I really felt like there was an
Speaker 2: opportunity missed here. As the bare minimum the Warblers had
Speaker 2: a Warbler album. Glee should have done that for the
Speaker 2: trouble Tones, and if there weren't enough songs to like,
Speaker 2: have them record more like we did for the Christmas albums, right,
Speaker 2: and then actually make an album for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how good would that have been? Oh?
Speaker 2: I do imagine that music videos with Amber and Naya,
Speaker 2: Vanessa and all of.
Speaker 1: Our friends in that one, Like I would have listened
Speaker 1: to all of us like that would have been the
Speaker 1: best girl group in the world. Stronger is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite trouble Tones numbers. I would have loved that.
Speaker 1: Let's bring the Troubletones back. Let's just do a spin
Speaker 1: off of the trouble Tones. Can we pitch that? Yes?
Speaker 1: I would listen to that all day long. I'm actually
Speaker 1: gonna listen to it after this. But we win. We
Speaker 1: win because we have to win, because we have to
Speaker 1: go to Nationals this year.
Speaker 2: And Ian does an incredible Ian Brennan, the co creator,
Speaker 2: sender he could have played anything he wanted to on
Speaker 2: this show, and this is when he chose to buyer.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've laughed harder watching going for
Speaker 1: when he's like any audience, Yes, that's because it's I.
Speaker 1: It's Ian, and then Vanessa or sugar Mata running up
Speaker 1: to hug him. I was like, I kind of wish
Speaker 1: I was sugar Mata and Glee, could I like go
Speaker 1: back and play sugar Matta, because like anything goes becauld
Speaker 1: have got anything like it works. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: It's really crazy to think that this is the same
Speaker 2: episode with Krowski.
Speaker 1: And Googles and Rosy. That's why it's.
Speaker 2: Glee, Kevin, That's why it's Glee. There was so much
Speaker 2: good work by everyone.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of really good work by everybody,
Speaker 1: like really good work.
Speaker 2: And I'm a little pissed. I know you said before
Speaker 2: controversially that some of those deleted scenes didn't need to
Speaker 2: be in the episodes However, I feel like I would
Speaker 2: like to have had that bride'smaid scene a lot, and
Speaker 2: I would have liked to have had the Curt and
Speaker 2: Blaine scene a lot, because I don't like that by
Speaker 2: choice they cut it. I don't know, like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is ay, though I like knowing that they exist. I
Speaker 2: like knowing that the backstory to those scenes because I
Speaker 2: do feel like those relationships really changed in this episode
Speaker 2: for both sets of people. And yes, everybody got through
Speaker 2: tragedy that has to happen, and Kurt and Blaine's reaction
Speaker 2: and then Kurt's scene with Kroofski and then Korowski with Kurt,
Speaker 2: those scenes are just really meaningful and to be able
Speaker 2: to see them pull each other up and out and
Speaker 2: strengthen their bonds with one another. Same with Rachel. And
Speaker 2: when I will say on the flip side, Shuster saying
Speaker 2: that cheating on a test.
Speaker 1: Was a kin do this, I'm ignoring it. I was
Speaker 1: just I feel it. I brought it up to you
Speaker 1: when I watched it. I feel everybody's journey is valid,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't necessary. But I like that scene.
Speaker 2: That scene started with Peanut Butter.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I was going
Speaker 1: to say though, while you were before you brought that
Speaker 1: all up. Props to the writers of this episode, because
Speaker 1: I think they handled it really well and thoughtfully, and
Speaker 1: please write in and tell us what you thought. But
Speaker 1: I do think that, like you said, all the characters
Speaker 1: really pulled up in a way that this would in
Speaker 1: a way that you would actually see in real life hopefully,
Speaker 1: so everybody had a little bit of growing up that
Speaker 1: they had to do that in this episode. I want
Speaker 1: to say that I'm jealous of being a viewer of
Speaker 1: this episode because I would.
Speaker 2: Have been floored. You see Karosski attempt suicide. He survives,
Speaker 2: so it's like, oh, we just had a brush with death.
Speaker 2: And then Quinn gets t boned and then it goes
Speaker 2: to black and you don't get any she must be
Speaker 2: dead because we got past one.
Speaker 1: Right. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Like, how did you feel? Because there was no
Speaker 2: way we could have like we knew she wasn't dying, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do vaguely remember reading the Karossi storyline
Speaker 2: like we didn't really know, but it wraps up pretty
Speaker 2: quickly like you know, he survives.
Speaker 1: Right, That is the bare bones of the season.
Speaker 2: Yes, there was just so much to cover.
Speaker 1: So so much to cover, Kevin, I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: to greade these musical performances because I think these musical
Speaker 1: there was a lot of really good stuff in here.
Speaker 2: Okay, there was.
Speaker 1: Okay, cough syrup is the first one.
Speaker 2: I mean A A A plus plus. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: it's phenomenon.
Speaker 1: Stand b.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give it a B.
Speaker 1: Glad you came. Glad you came, Glad you came. I
Speaker 1: gave a A minus. Okay, I agree with that, so
Speaker 1: I believe I can fly A minus A minus. Agreed,
Speaker 1: what doesn't kill you? A plus plus, A plus plus
Speaker 1: plus plus plus plus, and here's to us. I give
Speaker 1: it B B B. I'm with you on that too.
Speaker 2: There was oh wait, I have to talk about Finn
Speaker 2: says like, how do you know we're gonna win? Like,
Speaker 2: we'll go get married after we win. She's like, because
Speaker 2: I'm performing, and I thought that was very good.
Speaker 1: Let's do tarty jakes.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, AUC's I mean their Sebastian's life. Every Sebastian
Speaker 2: references like the Asian bird flu like no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything he says actually is the way he treated
Speaker 1: Krafsky this episode, right, No, it's bad, Yeah, it's all bad.
Speaker 1: The best dance with Kevin the trouble Zones obviously.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we have to get specific, yes, it's
Speaker 2: it's always an arm thing. Props to Amber because her
Speaker 2: ablems at the end are at the exact opposite time
Speaker 2: or like in the middle, not opposite. That would have
Speaker 2: been easier in the middle of the dance the dance,
Speaker 2: and the dance is going with the lyric of the melody.
Speaker 2: Then her ad libs are overlapping and she is still
Speaker 2: nailing her lips sync while doing these moves that seem
Speaker 2: counterintuitive to what she is singing.
Speaker 1: That's like ABC For me, it was I had to
Speaker 1: do the echoes, or I was doing the leads and
Speaker 1: they were doing the echoes and they was written to
Speaker 1: the echoes. I don't know anyway, but yes, I totally.
Speaker 1: There was a.
Speaker 2: Background that Heather had and I think I don't think
Speaker 2: she was singing it, but I had never heard it
Speaker 2: before and it was also one of those things that
Speaker 2: was happening at such an odd time, and it was
Speaker 2: a really great background I found her. Is she singing like?
Speaker 2: I don't think she is because it was really insane.
Speaker 1: Okay. Best song, I'm going with cough Syrup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cough Syrup for a number of reasons. Troubletones honorable. Second,
Speaker 2: we'll mention performance by her prop the peanut Butter.
Speaker 1: I think rule book, Yeah, rule that's funny.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I taped my line.
Speaker 1: I am sure you did because I remember that. I
Speaker 1: remember being like, how the hell is he going to
Speaker 1: remember that? And I'm pretty sure that you tape.
Speaker 2: This and I felt really guilty about it, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: really guilty.
Speaker 1: It was like, I'm not memorizing this way. There's no
Speaker 1: that doesn't show skill, Like do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: that's not like just put it in there and make
Speaker 1: your life easier.
Speaker 2: That's okay, I'm sorry. I haven't said that. That's what
Speaker 2: she said joke in like a decade.
Speaker 1: I know. Wow.
Speaker 2: I felt straight just then making that's what she said joke,
Speaker 2: Like that's out of touch, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh could be this week's how she.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put me on there, put me in coach. I
Speaker 2: can't take a shower. I feel gross now.
Speaker 1: Best line, oh.
Speaker 2: I knew immediately when it was said. Rachel said, I
Speaker 2: want to get married now, and Finny goes, I have Jim.
Speaker 1: Oh so good.
Speaker 2: Austin was in the room not watching and he burst
Speaker 2: out laughing. But that Corey is just I mean props.
Speaker 2: I had to say props to Leah in this episode too,
Speaker 2: because her chemistry with Quinn and her chemistry with Corey
Speaker 2: for different reasons, very very good.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's like comedy Relly like holding it all up, okay.
Speaker 1: Hiram also says like he's gonna I'm gonna fake an
Speaker 1: epileptic seizure and Leroy says, You're not an epileptic epileptic,
Speaker 1: and Hiram says, that's why I'm going to fake it.
Speaker 2: I we haven't even talked about Jeff Goldbloom in this episode,
Speaker 2: because he has two scenes where he has Gabbin completely
Speaker 2: off rails, off the rails, and he's phenomenal. And also
Speaker 2: him directing Burton Kurt around was hilarious because he couldn't
Speaker 2: have been more different from both of them. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: And I just want to spin off with the four
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really enjoy them. Very funny.
Speaker 2: Was so good in this episode.
Speaker 1: So good. Yeah, the four of them really just give
Speaker 1: us more. I don't even know where this wedding thing goes.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember, if I'm being completely honest. Okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll see.
Speaker 2: But I imagine there will be some fallout from Quinn, yeah
Speaker 2: for sure, And so that will probably make people question
Speaker 2: their life choices, right, nothing like our little brush on
Speaker 2: death to insert some perspective into your life.
Speaker 1: Well that is on my way. And then Performance MVP
Speaker 1: is Max Max Adler.
Speaker 2: I mean, are you kidding me? Get out of here.
Speaker 1: It's it's actually I like, why didn't he get nominated
Speaker 1: for an Emmy? I guess there wasn't enough, but he
Speaker 1: was really wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's like cumulatively yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Ross just really yeah? Okay, okay, should we found a
Speaker 2: TikTok Justin kuhn kuhnn. I don't know how to pronounce
Speaker 2: his last name. On TikTok posted this great video of
Speaker 2: him saying when he was fourteen, it's this insane story.
Speaker 2: So it's one of those stitches where someone says, have
Speaker 2: you ever met or spoken to a celebrity and didn't
Speaker 2: realize that they were famous? So he's sitting next to
Speaker 2: Orlando Bloom on a cross country flight and he wasn't
Speaker 2: sure who it was, and he told his dad that
Speaker 2: he was sitting next to Will Shuster, and so the
Speaker 2: whole time he thought it was Will Shuster. And it's
Speaker 2: this three minute long video. You should watch it because
Speaker 2: it's so good. That's happened to me before playing with people.
Speaker 2: And I just love that Orlando Bloom got mixed up
Speaker 2: as Matt or confused as Matt Moore.
Speaker 1: Like what like, mister shoe, I love you? He's like
Speaker 1: oo legless is like who yep. That's really funny because.
Speaker 2: They don't look alike, is the thing.
Speaker 1: No, but I say it's a similar They are both
Speaker 1: white and it's a similar facial structure I would say
Speaker 1: with curly hair. No, no, okay, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Tell us you tell us, yes. But it's absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Matt Morrison getting confuses Orlando Bloom hot.
Speaker 1: Hot, that's on my way.
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