1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. It is Tuesday, 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: December eighteenth, Miles Simmons DeMarco far just about eleven am 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: specific time here in Ogora Hills, California. And the Rams 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: have now dropped two straight. Yeah, first time they've done 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: that under Sean McVay. Now eleven and three after falling 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: to the Eagles thirty to twenty three on Sunday Night football. Yeah. Rough, tough, 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, two straight weeks on the big stage, you know, 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: just two games you want back that everyone got to see. 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: So a tough one. The Eagles are tough defending champs. 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: I think you saw why. There's elements of that that 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: was present on game day, the reason they won. You know, 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: a lot of the news I heard or I'm listening 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: to on the way in is what's wrong with the 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Rams or who's responsible for losing to the Eagles. Well 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: I would start with the Philadelphia Eagles number one. Yeah, 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: I would say they're responsible, more responsible than what the 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Rams did. So it's just tough, um, you know. But 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: the cool thing is, and I think a keep tally 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: sum this up perfectly. After the game, we're eleven and three. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: This is an eleven and three ball club still that 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: has already clinched the division. Yeah, I mean, so, I mean, 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: this is not the end of the world. This is 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: not your coach is about to be fired in two weeks. 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: You know, you're looking forward to the draft. This is 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: a little bit different, but I mean it's still a 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: two game losing streak and it's got to get fixed, 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah. And I think you know, the things 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: you see, the things you hear, it's kind of like, 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: all right, is it is it time to hit the 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: panic button? And in some ways, I don't want to 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: say panic, but I think that there is definitely there 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: does definitely have to be some sense of urgency at 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: this point to get this fixed going into the postseason, 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. And I mean that's and that's 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: going to be the fun part trying to figure out this. 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Thinking about what goes on at this time of year. 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: The first thing that stands out to me, really, Miles, 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: is you're going to find out if this team really 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: likes each other, because it's rough this time of year. 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: And I just remember going all the way back and 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: I hate being one of those guys that says back 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: in my day, but just constantly being reminded of why 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: we're doing this really helped. Every day we started the 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: day talking about we're doing it for the other guy. 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: It's not about you, It's about the guy next to you, 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: and the guy next to you and the guy next 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: to you. We said that every single day, add nauseum 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: to where you just got so sick of hearing it. 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: But it actually makes sense when you do get tired, 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: you need to find the reason why you're doing this 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: while you're putting yourself through all this, so you hope 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: it's for the other guy. And this might be the 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: point in the year where your head coach stops being 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: your friend and he becomes the blank with a whistle, 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, the taskmaster that winning is above everything, including yourself. 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: So this is when all that starts to happen late 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: in football seasons, no matter what level you're on. Sure, 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's the thing that we keep hearing, 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and we've heard I think throughout the entire course of 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: the season and maybe even going back to last year's 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: just how connected these guys are as a team. I mean, 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: you hear it from the coaching staff about the coaching 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: staff here from the players about the players, and I 64 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: mean you hear it internally even in this building and 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: we're two separate buildings or whatever, but I think that's 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: part of it. And so if the rams are as 67 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: connected as they say they are, then in theory at least, 68 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: this is the time where that should start to come 69 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: through and you start to see guys really leaning on 70 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: each other and getting better in that way. Right. And 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: you know what's the one thing that you can't change 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: is Sean mcvayh does not take the field on game day. 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: It's you, right. So I remember, I've been been on 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: some teams that like where martial law has been declared 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: in the locker room, to where the coach has removed himself. 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: He's coaching you. He's going to hold everyone to the 77 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: same standards, right, right, he's coming up with the game, right. 78 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: And really there's two different teams. There's the one that 79 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: you see and the one that no one else is, 80 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: including the head coach, behind closed doors. So this is 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: where those real leaders start to emerge, not just the 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: ones you see on game day going out for the 83 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: coin toss. The real leadership of the football team has 84 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: to take ownership. There's only so much he can do. 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: How much do you want this? How much do you 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: want to win a championship? It's all about the guys 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: in the room. So you know you're gonna put it 88 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: all on the head coach and the quarterback this word 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: it should be, but it's really everyone else in the 90 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: locker room that has the right, this wrong to get 91 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: out of this malaise. Yes, what was Sean McVay like 92 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: on the Coaches Show last night? As you were there, 93 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: and I, you know, was not but positive, very positive, 94 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I think he was. He's very accurate. 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: He knows his football team and he knows what they 96 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: can do. So I think he's in the process of 97 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: figuring out exactly what the team needs. And this is funny. 98 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Every team needs something, whatever it is, I kick in 99 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: the pants, a pat on the back, a day off, 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: hate me, hate him, hate something, right, they need something. 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: He's just got to figure out what it is. And 102 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I think he's trying to figure out what it is. Yeah, 103 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: I wonder, and I think about this a little bit 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: like his youth and he always talks about you know, 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: how okay, you have so many great guys around you, 106 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, like a Wade Phillips, who's been in the league, 107 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, since before Sean McVay was born and everything. 108 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Is this maybe a place where Sean McVay has to 109 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: grow into. Okay, I I have this team, I have 110 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I am the head coach of it, and you know what. 111 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're eleven and three, we've lost too straight. 112 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: But we've got this chance to write this in these 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: last two games. I think this is a place where, Look, 114 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: it's just not something he's ever had to do before, 115 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not trying to say like, oh 116 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, because Sean McVay is young, it's this, it's 117 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: that it's the third end, because I don't think that right, right, right, 118 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: But I think that this is just a place where 119 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: when you are in your second year as a head coach, 120 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: there's something that you have to grow in. There are 121 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: just things that you have to grow into, and I 122 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: guess that this is maybe one of them. We're going 123 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: to figure it out. I mean, he's I'm sure of this. 124 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: He's got an idea in mind on how to get 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: this team back on track. Now he's not going to 126 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: share that with us. That's between him and the team. 127 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: But I think he has a pretty good idea of 128 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: what to do and what he's going to do, So 129 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: we'll see how the team reacts to it. But like 130 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: I said, every everything, every team needs something, especially down 131 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: the stretch, so you've got to get it done. I 132 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: can remember just you know, a team falling apart to 133 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: where we couldn't pull it back my junior year at 134 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: U dub But that was because our quarterback had just 135 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: been suspended and it just devastated the program. I mean 136 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: everybody had just tuned out. I think we went one 137 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: in three and lost in the Rose Bowl. It was 138 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: just one of those lost years. But we needed something 139 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: that wasn't there. I think there's absolutely something he can do, say, 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: or change that's going to get this team, this team's attention, 141 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: to get them refocused. In high school, we had to 142 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: earn our wings on our helmets. Oh yeah, so did we? Yeah? Right? 143 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Remember if I think if this were Pop Warner or 144 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: high school football, the fix is easy. You know, you 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: can just take something away and the pros is a 146 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: little bit different. In college, we had a no spat 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: thing we went through. We went through a bad period. 148 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: We weren't playing that well. So everyone on our football 149 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: team like to have our shoes spatted because they looked cool. 150 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: And then our head coach said, the hell with that, No, 151 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: you guys don't deserve it. Took that away, so we 152 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: had to earn that back. The funniest thing was in 153 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Saint Louis we were bad. There was this little weight 154 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: in area between the weight room and the meeting rooms, 155 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: so we would just kind of hang out there very 156 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: for like the last seven minutes before your meeting began, 157 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: and we'd hang around on the furniture. Well, we kept losing. 158 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: One day we came out the furniture was gone. You know, 159 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: it was hilarious. Oh, you bums aren't going to tear 160 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: up our furniture if you're not gonna win. So, you know, 161 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: at whatever your team needs to refocus, that's what you're 162 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to do. But as a head coach, you're 163 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to really figure out and know exactly what 164 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: they need from this point. Yeah, And I you know what, 165 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I think Sean mcvayh has done such a good job 166 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: of pushing the right button throughout the course of his 167 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: first two seasons in the league, and like, for instance, 168 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean earlier on in this season. Right when you 169 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: have all the fires and the shooting and everything that's 170 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: going on, you cancel practice on that Friday to make 171 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: sure everybody gets to stay with their families. You know, 172 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: you have everything happened on that Saturday. You go out, 173 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: you beat the Seahawks, then you go to Colorado Springs. 174 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: The game gets moved from Mexico City back to Los Angeles. 175 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: You end up practicing in Colorado Springs. You come back, 176 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: you win that game against Kansas City as well. So 177 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: there is a history here, and while yes it is 178 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: a short history, but there is there are some tangible 179 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: examples of McVeigh coming back and making sure that he 180 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: does those things. You know what I'm true? Well, I 181 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: mean you hope that what happened the last two weeks 182 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: is enough for the guys, enough for them to refocus themselves. 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: Go to Mike Tyson, how do you train the undisputed 184 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: heavyweight champion of the world. How do you tell him 185 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: he needs to train better hard? Right? You really can't. 186 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to learn it in the ring boom 187 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: Buster Douglas coaching Lebron James exactly. So, I mean you 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: would hope, we would hope everyone would hope that what 189 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: has happened the last two Sundays on national television would 190 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: get into their heads. Hey, we have got to right 191 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: this wrong. We have got to start from square one 192 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: and get better from this point on. Right, Yeah, all right, 193 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Well let's go to Jared Goff because I think, you know, 194 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the discussion around what has happened to 195 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: the RAM since the bye week has centered around him, 196 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: and for good reason. I mean, he has been statistically 197 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL over the 198 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: last three weeks, completing fifty five percent of his passes 199 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: seven hundred and twenty six yards, one touchdown, seven interceptions 200 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: the last two weeks. That is no touchdowns, six interceptions. 201 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, again, the numbers are not good. Right, Okay, 202 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: you heard me say this before we started, when I 203 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: said a pond further review. Yes, Okay, I think maybe 204 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: we should take your focus off him and look at 205 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: what's in front of him and just compare the offensive 206 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: lines and how teams have been playing the last couple 207 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: of weeks. Um, he's been under durest quite a bit, 208 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot of Yes, there's there's a lot that's going 209 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: on there. So that's going to affect his play. Now, 210 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 1: can he be better? Could he be more accurate? Absolutely? 211 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Are there some throws he wants back, Sure, Um, But 212 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: for the most part, when you look, you know, it's 213 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: tough to play quarterback when you're constantly being moved off 214 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: your spot, you know what I mean, It really is rough. 215 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: It's tough to get in the rhythm when you know 216 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: you're you're getting dinged up and pushed around a little bit. Well. Look, 217 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: the other thing is I mean, over the course of 218 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: most of the season, we just didn't see that from 219 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: this offensive line. It did a really nice job of 220 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: protecting Jared Goff, just to snap shopping him up right, 221 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, and making sure that he had clean pockets 222 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: to operate with and then fire off accurate passes. But over, 223 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, especially in this last game, 224 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: there were times where Jared Goff did have a clean pocket, 225 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: he was able to step into his throws, and he 226 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: made accurate throws. I mean some I can think of 227 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: a couple on the left sideline that he had to 228 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, you know what I'm saying, Like, he did 229 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: make some accurate throws. But then there are those other 230 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: times where there's that third down early in the second 231 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: half where he's just got pressure in his face immediately 232 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: and he has no choice but to throw it away because, 233 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: as Sean mcvayh has been saying the last couple of weeks, 234 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: sometimes it's just a dead play. Right, that's a contributing factor. 235 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the entire reason the turnover, the 236 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: one where he gets stepped on and turns the ball over, Yes, 237 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: can't happen. That cannot happen. That's absolutely So that's where 238 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: we're starting from. That. That is a critical error that 239 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: will cost you football games. That can happen. So did 240 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: cost you the football game? In my opinion, he has 241 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: to get better. Everyone has to get better. But if 242 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: you're just ranking everyone's offensive line play from week fourteen, right, 243 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: that was week fourteen after the buyeote thirteen. Last week 244 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: was thirteen. I get the map. Fourteen fourteen was last 245 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: week last I don't know. I don't know when you're 246 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: starting from from the last week. Okay, yet the end 247 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: of last week after Monday night, week fourteen is over right, Yes, 248 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: so we're on to week fifteen this week, No, it's 249 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: week sixteen, Week sixteen oh my god, forget it. Anyway, 250 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: if what are you which games bye week their best 251 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: the old lines, where would you put the Rams right now? 252 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: You would not put them probably in the top half. 253 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: You would probably put them in the bottom quartile of 254 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: the league. Right. So, I think when you criticize Jared 255 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Goff or how he's been playing, I think indirectly you're 256 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: you're putting the onus on the guys in front two. 257 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that's only fair. Yes, right, I think that's 258 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: very fair. I hate math. Never mind, I hate math too. 259 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: The bye week always screws me up. Bye week was 260 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: week twelve. Never mind, don't explain it. We got it. 261 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: Don't know what I mean? You know what I mean? 262 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: I do now, Thank you very much stopping, but I 263 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: got you. But I think I think you're right in 264 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: what you're saying about the offensive line. Yeah, you know what. 265 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Sean McVay talked about it last week after the Bears game, 266 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: where he was saying that key players were making uncharacteristic 267 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: mistakes and in that you know, I took that as 268 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: being Andrew Whitworth, John Sullivan awesome blythe who had done 269 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: a fantastic job. Yeah right, I know you know you don't, right, Well, 270 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: I guess well it can name the other two. Roger 271 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: staff of the left guard, and then Rob Havens signed 272 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: a right tackle and so like those guys. But I mean, 273 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: you had a couple of false starts by Andrew Whitworth 274 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: in UM in Chicago, and then again you had a 275 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: holding call by Andrew Whitworth against the Eagles on Sunday. 276 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: So these are things that the Rams have to correct 277 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: because they're your best players. We've talked for the last 278 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: two years about how much Andrew Whitworth has stabilized the 279 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: left side of the offensive line. And now you've got ironically, 280 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Greg Robinson is actually doing pretty well in Cleveland right now, 281 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: helping them get to Yeah, honestly, it is helping them 282 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: get to where they are. But I think you know, 283 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: when you have somebody like Andrew Witworth, you need him 284 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: to be Andrew Wittworth. Yeah, I mean, they just have 285 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: to play better. I mean, Philadelphia's defensive line, it wasn't 286 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: just one guy, true, It seemed like every other guy 287 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: was the star of that series. So and I don't 288 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: think that was just them. I think that was a 289 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: function of how you're playing too, So that that has 290 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: to improve. I think we can all understand that. So 291 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: until that starts, and how you start, that's like you said, 292 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: you have to go all the way back to basics 293 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: and just start again. You know, I'm really just start 294 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: again from this point and try to get better incrementally, 295 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: because when your quarterback is struggling, the last thing you 296 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: want to do is put more on him. What you 297 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: want to do now is simplify, right, Yeah, simplify things. 298 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: Let's get some easy throws and let's start. Let's start 299 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: to build momentium confidence at the same time. So to 300 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: take it to the upfront thing though, is it personnel 301 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: right now? Do you have to think about that? You know? Look, 302 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: it's the thing that's that stands out to me when 303 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: I look at some of the stats, and not the 304 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: ones that most people go to. When you look at 305 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: how many teams, how many players teams are playing right 306 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: and the starts, the rams aren't playing that many guys, no, 307 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's been the same 308 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: group for a long period of time. So you know, 309 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: to win a championship, it takes everybody. So with some 310 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: young players that are waiting to play, are you in 311 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: on this thing? Or you just writing because as of 312 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: right now, they could use some snaps. You know, if 313 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: this guy needs a blow for a quarter or a 314 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: couple of series here or there, just to get you through. 315 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Can I trust you to go out there and not 316 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: have a letdown? Can I trust you to go out 317 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: there and not miss a blitz pick up on an 318 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: important down. So that's the thing that separates, you know, 319 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: the good from the elite teams like Belichick and New England. 320 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: It seems like the names keep changing, but the attention, 321 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: the detail doesn't. The mistake free football doesn't, especially in December, 322 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think that's what 323 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: every single team. But I think that's what this team 324 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: needs right now. It can't be the same names making 325 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: all the plays interesting. Yeah, well, but that's the way 326 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: that this offense has operated, especially I mean over the 327 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: since basically the second half of twenty seventeen, McVeigh has 328 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: almost exclusively used eleven personnel and he didn't in this 329 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: last game for a couple of snaps. I think it 330 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: was at the end of the first half when Cadarrel 331 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: Hodge came in there because Todd Gurley was dealing with 332 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: his knee and so then they used for wide receivers 333 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: one tight end, but other than that, it's exclusively eleven personnel, 334 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: and since Cooper Cup has gone out, it's been exclusively 335 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds at that third wide receiver spot and the 336 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: only two guys that really go back and forth or 337 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett a tight end. So ay, 338 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean your skill position players are one thing. But 339 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: what I'm assuming that you're talking about is up front, yes, 340 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: and lost me. So when you were saying that you 341 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: know what guys might need a blow here and there? 342 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you're talking about the five up front 343 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: right right? With Brian Allen for instance, or a Joe Noteboom, 344 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: absolutely take a series or two here. I mean, look 345 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: like we said, you are eleven and three. The playoffs 346 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: is a guarantee. It is unless they change the rules. Right, 347 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: You've got a home playoff game, right, So I mean, 348 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: are you in on this ride or are you are 349 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: you just riding? So I would love to see a 350 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: Joseph note Boom take a couple of reps out there. 351 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Why not? It gives wit a rest, a long rest. 352 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: I would love to see Brian Allen because I'm I 353 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: like to see guys, you know, get punished. I think 354 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fun to watch. Yeah, I'd like to 355 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: see him take a series or two. Let's just take 356 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: a look at it, see what it looks like for 357 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: a while. This I mean not to get too far 358 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: ahead of you know what I've got on my little 359 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: plan here, but like, this could be these next two 360 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: weeks in theory, should be the weeks to do it 361 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: based on the opponents you're playing. Absolutely, I mean and like, 362 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 1: and I don't mean that to say disparage you know, 363 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals or the Niners in any way, because these 364 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: two teams can beat you. They are divisional opponents. They 365 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: can come in. You look at what Arizona did a 366 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: few weeks ago against Green Baby basically got Mike McCarthy fired. 367 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: I used to like, if you could have had everything 368 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: wrapped up, say you get your first round by your 369 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: you've got the number one seed, right, and you've got 370 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: these two games to play. Treat it like bull practice 371 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: to where all the youngsters play. You get the next 372 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: group ready for the next run. You also rest your 373 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: starters for the big game. Right. If you had beaten 374 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: the Bears, you could have been able to do that, 375 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: but you didn't get you you didn't get your stuff 376 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: done exactly. So now you can but you can still 377 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: sprinkle that stuff in. Yeah, you can still sprinkle some 378 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: extra reps, And I mean, why not. I think it 379 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: only helps you down the road. You know. It is 380 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: funny to see you know, some of your starters going 381 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: into these games and coming out of these games, you know, 382 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: bumped around and bruised, and seeing the young guys walk 383 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: out fresh. Yeah, okay, well, why don't you go take 384 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: some reps, either more in practice or take a few 385 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: in the game. You know, just they have to be 386 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: able to trust you. And if they can't trust you 387 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: to know the playbook by now in December, then there's 388 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, you know what I mean. Right. The 389 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: impression that I've gotten though throughout the course of the 390 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: year is that they do trust guys like No Boom 391 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: and Allen good whenever whenever they yeah, whenever they come in, 392 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: and they had to in Chicago, both of them did. Yeah, 393 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: they've been all right. And I don't mean justin spot duty. 394 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: I mean in some kisa I know, I know, like 395 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: trust to play like you're protecting Jared, you know, not 396 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: just mop up duty and we're running the football, we're 397 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: unning draws on third down. No, we're we're running our 398 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: game plan and you're a part of it. So I 399 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: I'd love to see those guys play and get some 400 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: of those some veteran guys from rest. Yes, I think 401 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: that that would be nice to see over the course 402 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: of the season. It's for me. It is right. You 403 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: get out to a two touchdown lead early against one 404 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: of these two teams, but damn it was three points. 405 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: I know. That's what I'm saying. It's a tight ball game. 406 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: We can win or lose with this drive you're in. Not, 407 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: I hear you not. Let me set it up for 408 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: you to like be cushy. No, you're gonna have to play. Yes, yeah, 409 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: I know, I hear. Go block Chandler Jones. Right, Chandler 410 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: Jones is going to be in probably the whole time. 411 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: He wants to sector golf as much as anybody. So 412 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: but I think that you know, you gotta I don't know. 413 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: I would like to see it with the lead. And 414 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. This is where we differ on this, 415 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: and that's all is God. Block Chandler Jones. If he 416 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: beat you grab him. I don't give a damn it 417 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: as a holding call. Throw him on the ground, yes, sir? 418 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: All right? Um, But for for Jared Goff's performance in 419 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: and of itself, I think there I think you know 420 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: what you said upon further review is kind of right. 421 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: There were some absolutely unacceptable plays made. I think that 422 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: the one that he had on that third down. It's 423 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: third and one, and I know you get stepped on, 424 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: and I know you're trying to make a play, but 425 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: you can't do that. Yeah, you just can't. Right, So 426 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: those are the things that it's you've gotta correct if 427 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: you try to get out of that, you know. I 428 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: mean I think you would say, and I hate to 429 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: say it, oh just eat the football, right, Okay? If 430 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: they step and if they if you get stepped on 431 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: and you fall, okay, just make sure you keep posts 432 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: should take the loss, right, Yes, I don't want to 433 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: take that away from a guy who's aggressive. So if 434 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: you're going to try to get up and make a play, 435 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: make sure you make a damn play right, not to them. Yes, yeah, 436 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: so that's that's how I would you would come after that. Um, 437 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, Jared, you're making a mistake by trying 438 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: to make a play. Ever, but if you make the 439 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: freaking play, well, my I think the issue more is 440 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: how you're trying to make the play right. You know, 441 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: you can't just let the ball go in any sort 442 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: of which way if you're gonna trying to make a play, 443 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: and at that point you got to try to do 444 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: it with your leg is. No. I don't want to 445 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: say that that's mean because he's been playing better. But 446 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: back in training camp when they did the hard knocks 447 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: with Jamis Winston, that was a Jamis. Absolutely, that was 448 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: a Jamis. That was a Jamis. Everything's going so well 449 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: and why why would you do that? Right? Right? Right? 450 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: And that leads to seven points for the opposition and 451 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: you lose by seven pretty much, right, so right there 452 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: there you have it. Yeah, but I think there are 453 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: just some other things in that game, you know, like 454 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: a brought up the Whitworth holding call. Yeah, you got 455 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: an offensive pass interference on Robert Woods that I thought 456 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: was a little bit questionable. You know, That's that's a 457 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: play that's still bugging a lot of people. Um, you know, 458 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the officials ruling on that call, especially when it was 459 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: happening on the other side. So there were a lot 460 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: of fishy things. A neutral zone infraction that got turned 461 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: into a false start because the defender didn't come into 462 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: the neutral zone when he clearly was above the football. 463 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: I could see that, Yeah, yeah, I could see it 464 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: from my seat in the press box. And then I 465 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: saw it on video again and yeah, well okay, yeah, 466 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: maybe that could have gone the other way. So that 467 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: was weird. The one where Rob Havenstein stood up, waved 468 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: his hands and then got back in his stands. Yeah, 469 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: without flags, that was a right tackle that just moved. Okay, 470 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't care who you calling on, but you got 471 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: to stop the play right the offensive shifting there, so 472 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: I guess that he could shift. That's the reason why 473 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, I know I felt that way 474 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: as well, but like it just there are just have 475 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: just been things over the course of the last two 476 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: weeks where people like to talk about, oh my gosh, 477 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: with the rams and the red zone, da da da dada. Well, 478 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you have penalties, oh, if you're taking 479 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: negative plays, then that's what happens. What's the I'll tell 480 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: you this. I'm not even gonna ask the question. I'll 481 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: just tell you The most threatening guy in the red 482 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: zone for a defensive player is always that running back. Okay, 483 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: and I think you lost Todd early. Yeah there was 484 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: a problem. So no shock, you're having problems in the 485 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: red zone when your best threat is dinged up and 486 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: they know it. Well. Not only that, but I I 487 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: mean Todd Gurley. You got to give him credit for 488 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: gutting out that performance because he was still able to 489 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: be in the game. You know, he had that late 490 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: touchdown that was right from a yard out. So but 491 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: I hear what you're I say, half a Todd is 492 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: that you think Todd would find that as a disc 493 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's hurt. Oh and call him half whatever. 494 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: I compromise, Todd compromises a good word is better than 495 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: a full time backup. I just refuse to believe that. Well, 496 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: at this point, who based on who your backups are? 497 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: I refused. I just as a football player, I refused 498 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: to believe that. What do you mean? No, if the 499 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: guy is clearly dragged dragging a leg, then it's my opportunity, 500 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: it's my responsibility to go out there and play running back. 501 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, but you have to execute. I know, say 502 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: we're on the same page. We are on the same page. 503 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like, look, this is the this is why 504 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: when Sean mcvass announced the Malcolm Brown injury and somebody 505 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: asked him, Okay, you know, is there maybe some kind 506 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: of silver lining here that you will get some younger 507 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: backs experience, right, Jean McVay said no, I don't think so. Wow, 508 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: And you know what, it's because Malcolm Brown is that 509 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: guy that you can trust to come in and to 510 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: execute at a high level because he's done it throughout 511 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: the last two seasons and he's done it so well. 512 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: I mean you there was that play in New Orleans 513 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: where he tiptoed the sideline and still got in the 514 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah. Man, that was a good play. That 515 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: was a great play. He's a Malcolm run is a 516 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: starting caliber player that they had on their bench that 517 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: he could come in and you really did not notice much, 518 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: if any drop off in the play of the office 519 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: the second starter. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. I mean that game 520 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: was going to be on Sunday night, was down and dirty, 521 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: it was gritty. Um. I think Talib understood immediately what 522 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: type of game it was. Um. Robert Woods definitely understood 523 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: what type of game nothing's going to be easy. It 524 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: always does. Yeah, it's just gonna have to be nasty. 525 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: So if I think if you had a healthy Todd, 526 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of that game, where you 527 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: can actually keep the defense honest and off balance running 528 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: the football, um, maybe the second half is different. And 529 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: even with that, even with the turnover, the the the 530 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: muffed punt or the I don't even know what you 531 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: call it with Jojoe Nelson, he said he tried. He 532 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: said he was trying to switch hands, which came out, 533 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: and it came out even with you still had a shot. 534 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, they came roaring back. It's just 535 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: not enough. But and it was a perfect storm. I mean, 536 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: they were getting pressure, you couldn't run the football, and 537 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: you know, Jared was a little bit off with some 538 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: of his throws. So it's just one of those things 539 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: that's it's starting to add up. And it just so happened. 540 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: It was both games were on Sunday night. Yes, so 541 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: it just makes you the thing to talk about in 542 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: the National Football League, Oh for sure. And you know what, 543 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing. But um, with Todd Gurley though, I'm 544 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: just a sort of injury update at this point. Sean 545 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: mcfay said yesterday that he's day to day but that 546 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: they expect him to be all right with just some 547 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: knee inflammation. So hopefully that means that he will be 548 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: available to play against the Cardinals, because again, I like, 549 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: I understand, and I've seen these tweets that it's like, 550 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: oh God, you gotta arrest Todd. You just gotta arrest him, 551 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: you know, if you can't beat the Cardinals without Todd Gurley, Like, 552 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see it that way, because you 553 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: have so much to play for right now, you know, 554 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: you get this first round by I might be with 555 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: the man. I don't know what I mean. I think 556 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: I think you have to maybe differentiate the amount of 557 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: snaps that you might play with Gurley. But I I 558 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: don't think you can rest him right now. I don't. 559 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you can afford it. Oh okay, then 560 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: we're in agreement. Then that's what I mean. Yeah, I 561 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 1: think you you need that guy. If you don't have 562 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: a capable backup, then he's gonna have to do it, right. Yeah, 563 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: And that's that's that's the I guess the shame of it, yes, right, 564 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate right, you know what right now, I mean, look, 565 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: we sort of mentioned it, but like John Kelly's out there, 566 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: he with some pass protection. Yeah wow, that was a 567 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: big play too. That was a huge play the game. Well, 568 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: that's what I mean, Like, you're gonna have to be 569 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: trusted to run the offense and know what to do. 570 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: It's that important for the rest of the year. Yes, 571 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: or I mean you're gonna have to ask more of 572 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: your starters. And that's fine too. You know, Hey, Robert 573 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Woods has done a lot, Cooks has done a lot. 574 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do more. Same thing on defense. 575 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, everyone's asking what if Aaron's being doubled? Were 576 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: the other guys? Okay, maybe they're not going to show 577 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: up for the rest of the year, So you're gonna 578 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: have to do more. Yeah, you know, you're you're gonna 579 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: have to tell the guy that's got sixteen and a 580 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: half sacks you may need twenty. Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, 581 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: but that's where the rams are right now. But that's 582 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: and that's well and good, that's fine. That's what they 583 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: get paid for, right, That's just the way it is. 584 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he was the highest paid defensive player in 585 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: the League for about twenty four hours, So all the 586 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: attention he's getting, he's proven it, Yes, exactly. I think 587 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: though from that the standpoint of you know, the injuries 588 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: and who you're missing and everything in Malcolm Brown, I 589 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: think it's really worth mentioning at this point and how 590 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: much the Rams are missing Cooper Cup. Oh, yeah, because 591 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 1: you know and I don't. And every time you know, 592 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: Sean McVay Jared Goff talks about this, they make sure 593 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: that they're saying they don't mean any disrespect to Josh Reynolds. 594 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: And I don't really either, because I think Josh Reynolds 595 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: has shown that he can't make plays. But at the 596 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: same time, there's a reason why Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks, 597 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: and Robert Woods were the starting three wide receivers. Cooper 598 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: Cup is a great player. He is a dynamic route runner, yeah, 599 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: and he shakes tacklers and also in a dynamic matter. 600 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: So there are so many different things that he does 601 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: for the offense. And when you lose him, you're now 602 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: playing Robert Woods out of position, and you put Josh 603 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: Reynolds on the field where Robert would supposed to be. 604 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be out of position anywhere 605 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: you put him. I don't, right, I'm not. Yeah, that's 606 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: probably a bad He's not necessarily out of position. He's 607 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: not where he started, right, right, I know what you mean? Yeah? 608 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: You know, right? And and that doesn't mean anything necessarily 609 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: for Robert Woods, because he became I think the thirteenth 610 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: player in league history to have at least excuse me, 611 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: I think he's the sixth player in league history to 612 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: have at least to have thirteen straight games with at 613 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: least sixty yards receiving. Wow. Wow, the consistency is unreal. 614 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Who's tracking this? I don't know. It was like a 615 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: li of sports Berger or something. Wow, I don't know. Wow. 616 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: I want to meet that guy in the basement, right. 617 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh no, no. But my point here is that, you know, 618 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: especially in these last couple of games, Cooper Cup would 619 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: have made a significant difference. You know, he he's the 620 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: last power pellet on the board. You ever played Miss 621 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: pac Man, the last power Yeah? Yeah? Or when you 622 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: when you when you stupidly go through all your powerpellets 623 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: too soon and now you've got no help against like 624 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: eight ghosts, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, 625 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 1: that's what he provided for the offense. I mean, he 626 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: was a guy that can always get you a play, 627 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: make you a play when you need a play, plus 628 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: when you're just running your offense. He's so deceptive and 629 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: there's almost nothing he can't do. So yeah, it is 630 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 1: you can't replace that. That's why he's special exactly, and 631 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: that's what you know everybody. But you can overcome it. 632 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: You can overcome his loss. That is the thing. And 633 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: I think the Rams maybe you have to do a 634 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: better job of looking to overcome what this is, what 635 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: the loss of Cooper Cup is, you know what I mean? Yeah, 636 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: I still think you can be dynamic. You won't be 637 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: the same without Cooper Cup offensively, but I think you 638 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: can be You can make up for him, make up 639 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: for it with how dynamic you can be with a 640 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: guy like Reynolds. There was a reason they went to 641 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: him on that last play. Yes, yeah, yeah, he's tall 642 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: and he's got springs. He's the guy that can go 643 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: up and get it so that and he uses his 644 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: six foot three frame all the time. That's an added dimension, 645 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: you know to the offense. You'd like to be able 646 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: to sprinkle that with Cooper Cup, Cooks and Woods then 647 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: you become something deadly. But now you're gonna have to 648 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: lean on it a little more. But that athleticism is 649 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: still there, So I still think you're just scratching the 650 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: surface with him. I agree, I absolutely agree, And I 651 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: will never forget how excited receivers coach Eric Yarber was 652 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: in the draft room when they got Josh Mayolds when 653 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: they did in the fourth round. Yeah, so we just 654 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: got the steel of the draft. Now, yeah, that Josh 655 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: Marynolds has definitely made plays. I think that he can 656 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: step up a little bit more and show why he 657 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: was that kind of steel. Yeah in the fourth round 658 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen. I'll make a bet with you. 659 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: I bet this coming Sunday, if we start to see 660 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: a spark out of the offense, it's going to come 661 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: from a play he makes. Okay, Yeah, I'm serious, Like 662 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: a one handed leaping grab. It's gonna come from him. 663 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: That touchdown Grady he had on Sunday night was pretty 664 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: damn good. It was. Yeah, I thought he was. I 665 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: thought he scored. I mean he was right there on 666 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: the goal line. It was tremendous. Great route, great throw, 667 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: great everything. So I bet if there's going to be 668 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 1: some sort of the some sort of spark in the 669 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: offense that makes you go, Okay, that's it. It's gonna 670 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: come from a guy like him. So I would argue 671 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: that it might come from another guy that comes from 672 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: that twenty seventeen draft, and it would be Gerald Everett. Well, 673 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: he was open, God, he was open, Oh my god, open. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, man, 674 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: he's playing. And that's one of those throws that Jared 675 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: Goff he had time. You have to make throw. You 676 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: have to make that throw. And he's made it. And 677 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: that's the thing, you know in Jared, excuse me, Jared 678 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: Goff said this. Sean McVay said this. The things that 679 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: have gone wrong, they're fixable. And there are things that 680 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: the Rams have done throughout the course of the season 681 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: right now. They were doing it a few weeks ago. Right, 682 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: It's just you have to get back to it somehow. Yeah, 683 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: if they're gonna give you the tight end, then he's 684 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: got to make you pay, right, He's got to keep 685 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: making them pay until they show him attention, which is 686 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: going to open up everything else the Rams want to do. 687 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: That's how offense works, That's how these good tight ends. 688 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: We were just talking about how great Watson is in 689 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean just when you 690 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: think you've got it sewed up, that's when he starts 691 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: hurting you. And then you have to show him attention. 692 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: And then Kamara gets loose out the back door. So 693 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: as long as if they say, okay, we'll let the 694 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: tight end catch passes, then he should absolutely hurt you 695 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: every single time it does. Yes, you know, and then 696 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: make plays, make make a guy miss, get up feel 697 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: get the extra yards. The yak yardist. I believe you. 698 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: I think he can be one of those guys. But 699 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: I just have this this deal. When you're looking for 700 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: something explosive, you look for probably your most explosive guy politically. 701 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, I would bet it's going to come from him. 702 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: But we'll see either one it's gonna work. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 703 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: All right. Let's turn it to the defense too, because 704 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of what's happening, I mean a 705 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: lot of what's happening with Goff and you know, the offense, 706 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: and they're not scoring the thirty points a game like 707 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: they had. Yeah, I think it's taking a little bit 708 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: of heat off the defense because the defensive performance, to me, 709 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: especially you know, we go back to this phrase upon 710 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: further review, defensive performance in that game just was not 711 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: good enough. I don't think you know, hard man, And 712 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: going back to a lesson I learned way back when 713 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: I remember screaming at my offense in college, like, damn it, 714 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: why can't you guys score? And Lincoln Kennedy of all 715 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: people shooting back at me. It's not that easy. I 716 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: just didn't get it back then. I get it now, 717 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: but it is. It's frustrating. I had to learn to 718 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: deal with the frustration. When your offense goes stagnant or 719 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: they turn the ball over, it really starts to wear 720 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: on you because every time you do that, you're basically 721 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: taking years off our life. We got to go dig 722 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: ourselves out of this hole, you know what I mean? Really, 723 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we're in bad field position. It's all on us, 724 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 1: and they've got all the advantages. It just doesn't seem 725 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: fair because when you turn it over in bad field 726 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: position and they score, that goes against you, guys. So 727 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: somebody in your room is probably going to lose their 728 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: job because of that. And when it happens over and 729 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: over and over again, it does start to well up. 730 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: You get a little angry, but you just have to 731 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: know they're trying as hard as they can on that 732 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: side of the football as well, so you know, having 733 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: to get better. I mean I thought they played great. 734 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: I did, really I did. I mean there were some 735 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: situations to where I mean, you let some guys free 736 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. Can't happen, That's what 737 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean. All Sean Jeffrey had a great day against you. 738 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, but yet and still with everything that was 739 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: going wrong offensively, you still had a shot to win it. 740 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: He did. Yeah, you still got the ball back when 741 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: it mattered most. Yes, I mean, yes, that and that's fair. Yeah, 742 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: I can't look at these bad plays and ignore the 743 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: great stuff you did too. I thought they played great 744 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: ball in key situations, all right. But I to me though, 745 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: that's like you gotta even an out right, Like there 746 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: were great plays, but like you you let two guys 747 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: get down the field completely on you for a play 748 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: that should have been a touchdown, but Nick Foles underthrew 749 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: it so bad that it was only and I use 750 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: air quotes on this, a fifty yard reception right on 751 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: the first play of the drive. And you actually got 752 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback hit in there by a Dominican 753 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: sue on that place. So that to me, you know, 754 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: there were just too many plays I think made by 755 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: Alshan Jeffrey and you did a decent job in limiting 756 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: zach Ertz. Zach Ertz didn't kill you, and you knew that, 757 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: you know, that was probably the guy that she had 758 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: to look for. But when Jeffrey gets eight receptions on 759 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: eight targets for one hundred and sixty yards, yeah, you 760 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: gotta do better than that, no doubt, no doubt. I 761 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: mean I never thought that would happen, But I mean neither. 762 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: I think they took enough away um and made plays 763 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: when they needed to. Believe me, it's not like I'm 764 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: giving them a pass at all. Some guys really are 765 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: some guys really need to step up, um, you know, 766 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: and and play better. I thought some guys that didn't 767 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: play as well the week before, I thought they played better. 768 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: Like Michael Brocker's in the middle was a stalwart in 769 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: the a gap. I mean he was really down and dirty. 770 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: Like I said that game was nothing was going to 771 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: be easy. This is going to be nasty, and I 772 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: thought he played nasty ball. Um. So there were there 773 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: were there was a lot of good stuff. John Johnson 774 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: was all over the place. He was all over the 775 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: place absolutely run and pass, and the plays that LaMarcus 776 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: made towards the end of the game to to give 777 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: you life, to to keep hope alive, so to speak. 778 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: There was a lot of good defense being played out there. Um, 779 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: it's just hard when you turn the ball over to 780 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: a defending champion that knows how to win. Yes, I agree, like, okay, 781 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: So to me, there are thirty points scored in that game, right, 782 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: twenty three of them are probably on the defense, you know, yeah, yeah, 783 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: based on the way things went at that the golf 784 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, interception whatever, that went back to the twelve 785 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: yard line and then you get that sudden change that 786 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: you've set them up for a touchdow the offense set 787 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: them up for a touchdown. I think that's what you're 788 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: speaking to you in terms of the turnovers, and like 789 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, everybody, you're that those points go on the defense, 790 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: they don't, you know, no doubts not. Yeah, now here's 791 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: where you where you would say, Okay, it's you guys, 792 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear anything else about where 793 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: they got the football. I mean how they score those 794 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. This isn't a stupid tackle eligible. I mean, 795 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: these are some basic off tackle players. They just beat 796 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: you on. Yes, yeah, so there's there's Jaredain out there. 797 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: That's right, that's you guys, right, So I'm with you. 798 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean those situations you've got to be tighter. But 799 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, bad plays, good plays. I mean, you just 800 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: can't put it all on them. It's beastly when you're 801 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: turning it over. No, I don't put at all. I 802 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't put it all in the defense for sure. Obviously 803 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: the offense is not performed up to its standards. And 804 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: you know when you have um two offensive turnovers and 805 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: then a special teams turnover like that, that that is 806 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: going to hurt you. It's an impact the way the 807 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: game works. Another failed fake punt or another failed fake 808 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: special teams play. Yes, I thought he caught it. Oh 809 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: my god, I thought he caught it. Really, I thought 810 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: he got Really I'm up there, I could I could 811 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: tell under why it was because basically, like from where 812 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: I stand during the game, like it's it was an eyeshot. 813 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: Oh really okay, So, like I turned to Um Clarence, 814 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: our staff writer, yes, no, oh wow wow, oh yeah yeah. 815 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, even with all that going 816 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: against you, you still you were throwing for the end 817 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: zone on your last Yes, and that's true. But so 818 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned Michael Brocker's Um. But there are I think 819 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people I hate to do the people 820 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: are saying things. But people are saying and I tend 821 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: to agree, like where where is the more production going 822 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: to come from? Because when we've got guys like Sue 823 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: and Brockers and Fowler and everybody else, the guys that 824 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: are playing with Donald, because Aaron Donald is getting double team, 825 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: he's getting triple team, he's getting fewer and fewer one 826 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: on one opportunities. And while teams I think have done 827 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: a good job of sort of scheming a way away 828 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: from Donald, that means that somebody else has to be 829 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: out there and able to make a play, right right. 830 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: You know how I look at it, Aaron, you gotta 831 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: crack it. I don't care what they're doing it. You 832 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: know you mentioned that earlier. You got to crack it. Um. Yeah, 833 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: they're they're doing things to take you away. Okay, beat it. 834 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to find a way to win. End 835 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: of story. Yeah, if you want us to win, you 836 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: got to get on the quarterback. There's this weird stat 837 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: now that when Aaron Donald has a sack in a 838 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: game since the Rams hired Sean McVay, they are undefeated. 839 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: When he does not have a sack, the Rams are 840 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: apparently five and seven. Okay, great, let's tattoo that. Yeah, 841 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, put that above his locker, Put that above 842 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: every everybody's locker that plays defensive line or Russians ada sack. Yeah, 843 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: when this guy makes a play, we win. Okay, how 844 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: do how do you think that should make everyone else 845 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 1: around him feel that we gotta get him to make 846 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: plays or I mean, or like, let me make plays too. 847 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: You've been saying that for the last couple of weeks, 848 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: but it just is not translated to the field. That's 849 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: what I keep, That's what I would go back to. Okay, Aaron, Yeah, 850 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: they're taking your away. You're gonna have to crack it, Okay. Yeah, 851 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, you're gonna ask the guy that's got 852 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half sacks, you're gonna need twenty. That's 853 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: an impossible that's an impossible ask what you're gonna have 854 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: to is it impossible. It's too over the next two weeks. 855 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's an impossible. You're gonna have to 856 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: find a way to get it out of him. Yeah, right, 857 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: that's that's if it is to be, it's up to me. 858 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: That's how you have to think. Yes, I think that 859 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: that that that the Wow, I really short circuited there, 860 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, But I think that that's part of 861 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: it with Aaron, you know, yes, you want him to 862 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: be able to crack that. It's two sackless games in 863 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: a row, which he has not had since the beginning 864 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: of the season. Well, look this, We've been playing football 865 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: for a long time in this country, right, he had 866 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: the first guy that's been double most of the time. 867 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: You got to find a way to get through it. 868 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: That's that's all there is to it. Well, for the 869 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: most part through I would hope to hes not enough 870 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: to take him away, but for the most prout this 871 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: season he's been able to do that. Right. I think 872 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: over the last two weeks though, especially what you've seen 873 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: is teams really be able to get rid of the 874 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: ball quickly. That was definitely the strategy that the Eagles 875 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: employed with Nick Foles. They weren't going to let Aaron 876 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: get really get those opportunities to rush because you are 877 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: either throwing the ball very quickly or you're rolling out 878 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: opposite of him, yeah, and getting foles outside, and that's 879 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: when he has a little bit of time to deliver 880 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: a ball stack okay and get there faster. Yeah. Period, 881 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: No matter what, no matter what they're doing to take 882 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: you away, you're going to have to defeat it. I 883 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: am not disagreeing with you on any part of what 884 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: you're saying in this right now. I'm not right unless 885 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: you get somebody else to take advantage of the double 886 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: take advantage of the one on ones. If not, then 887 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: it's got to be him. Yes, I'd rather lean on him. 888 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, that's just where you are for 889 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: good reason. In the in the secondary, it was nice 890 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: to see you keep too. You have an interception. I 891 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: thought that he did a great job of falling off 892 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: the wide receiver route and then just saying, oh, I 893 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: know where this is going. That's a baller. Yeah, right, 894 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: that's a baller. That's Troy Palomelo ed Reid stuff. I mean, 895 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: if you play it letter perfect, I guess the way 896 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: they draw it up it's a touchdown. They hit that play. 897 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: But you've got one guy that just knows how to 898 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: play football, one guy that can go beyond the rules 899 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: or what you think he's going to do and make 900 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: a play. And he did it. Yes. Yeah, that tremendous play. 901 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: And it was at the perfect time too. Yeah. Yeah, 902 00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 1: sparked momentum. Well, it bailed out the specially failed specialties play. Yeah, 903 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: so that's I mean, when you put the defense in 904 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: that position, I think you know you haven't Again, it's 905 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily a sudden sudden change because it's a turnover 906 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 1: on downs, But at the same time, that's a tough 907 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: spot for the defense to be put in when they're 908 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: already in plus territory. Yeah, and then you have your 909 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: heady corner. You know they're trying to make a play. Well, no, 910 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: he makes the play instead, and he keeps them off 911 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: the board. What if you made him head coach for 912 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: a day, keep to Lea. Yeah, man, that would be cool. 913 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: Why do you want to see that? I just feel 914 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: like you like that because you're a defense, That's what 915 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just close the doors. He's the head coach 916 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: for the day. Yeah. It reportedly had a player's only 917 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: defensive meeting does not surprise me at all. That's what 918 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm close the doors, lock them, just us and let 919 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 1: him be head coached for the day. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 920 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. The leadership. Yeah, the ones that 921 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: we don't know the the the true football team. Those 922 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: guys will start to emerge. The guys that made plays 923 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: on Sunday are the guys that we're talking about. Yeah. 924 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,959 Speaker 1: Like I said, Robert Woods got it in the blink. Okay, 925 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those days. Give me the ball, 926 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: let me do it. Yeah, the the Marshawn Lynch run 927 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: through your face mask over and over and over and 928 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: over and over type day. He didn't say face mask 929 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: or face run through your face over and over and 930 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: that type of game. So those type of players will 931 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: drive you for the rest of the year. Yeah, yeah, 932 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: all right, Well let's turn it forward. Talk a little 933 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: bit about Arizona. Still a little early in the week, 934 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: but I think, yeah, I just think it would be 935 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: silly not to say that. You know, again, it's nice 936 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: you're planning Arizona. There are a three and eleven team, 937 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: they've not played that well. They've got a rookie quarterback. 938 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: And you know, looking at their game last week, it 939 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: really reminded me of the Week fourteen matchup that the 940 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: Rams had with Atlanta back in twenty sixteen. Rookie quarterback. 941 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: Ball keeps getting turned over, he's getting blasted and eventually, 942 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: oh god, the forty four to whatever it was at 943 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: one point it was. I think it ended up like 944 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: forty two to fourteen, but at one point it was 945 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: forty two to nothing in that game, Um, Matt Ryan 946 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: put on a clinic without Julio Jones, Yes, yeah, yeah, 947 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: and whoever the Mohammed Sanou Yeah yeah, okay, right, I 948 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: remember that. So it sort of reminded me of that 949 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: game because you have Rosen got sacked six times. Um, 950 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: he threw I think two picks and I really have 951 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: in front of me, so I should just look. But 952 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, you had struggling scuffing, right, and so again 953 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: like they are a team that is having some trouble. 954 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: Rosen also fumbled. You know, it's if you're playing I 955 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: got three wins and I'm a member of that football 956 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: team and I'm sitting in my team meeting room watching 957 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: the Rams the last two weeks. How do you think 958 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: you feel about playing them right now, you feel great 959 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: because you think you can beat that. Yeah, so all 960 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: this stuff about they got three wins, forget about record. Yes, yeah, 961 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: it's it's all about how you play from this point on, absolutely, 962 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: and the stuff you put out there. I bet Chandler 963 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: Jones is licking his chops. He can't wait. Yeah. Yeah, 964 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: if you're watching the same film, anybody that lines up 965 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: in the interior defensive line is like, yeah, finally I 966 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: get a chance to make plays. So it doesn't matter 967 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: who you play from this point on. It's they're all 968 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: going to give you their a game for as long 969 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: as that last, and if you help them, you can 970 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: make any game a game, regardless of records. Well, Dante 971 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: Fowler said this yesterday during the open locker room period 972 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: that we had, and he was in there and he 973 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: was saying that, you know what, when you have a 974 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: team like the Cardinals, and despite what their record is, 975 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: you know that they're going to give you everything that 976 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: they have because that's what they're trying to play. Spoiler. 977 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: They're trying to keep jobs in the league next year. Right, 978 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: There's always so much to play for because there's only 979 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: sixteen of these regular season games that anybody is ever 980 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed in the NFL per year, right, So that that 981 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 1: I think you again, I think you're right. You know, 982 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: they may have three wins and that's whatever, but you 983 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: have to come out there and you have to make them. 984 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: You have to make them look like a three win team. 985 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: What's better than three four? You want to win the game. 986 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: And you know their problems are their problems. You have 987 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: your problems too. Who can cover up? There's the best 988 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: is going to win on game day? Yeah? Yeah? And 989 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: you know what, Rosen actually, I think has a lot 990 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: of talent. Even in that game against the Falcons, there 991 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: was one he threw down the right sideline to David 992 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: Johnson out of the backfield and Johnson, you know, it 993 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: was a really pretty pass and he dropped it right 994 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: in the bucket and so that helps set up their 995 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 1: first touchdown. And they didn't really do much else throughout 996 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: the course of that entire game. However, you don't want 997 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: to let them get on the board early and let 998 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: them feel like they're getting something going early. I have 999 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: a feeling they probably won't. I think you're going to 1000 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: get a reaction by by ninety nine. This week. Okay, Yeah, 1001 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: and this might be the week for him because that 1002 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: hasn't changed since the first time you saw Arizona. You 1003 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: know what do you mean? Well, their offensive line didn't 1004 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: get better and he ripped them. So you're you're going 1005 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: to see a repeat performance. You're not going to do 1006 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: much changing. So they are what they are. They going 1007 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: to try to run their their offense against you. It's 1008 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,399 Speaker 1: not going to be really specific towards taking one guy away. So, 1009 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: like you said, there were an evaluation period towards the 1010 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: end of the year, so I expect him to be dominant. 1011 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: So I think that you can be confident in offensively speaking, 1012 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's a wait and see. I don't know 1013 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: what the condition of how Todd's gonna look or perform 1014 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 1: come game days, so that part is a question mark. 1015 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: Defensively speaking, yeah, this this could be the get right 1016 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: performance you're looking for defensively from the Rams. From the 1017 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: Rams for second, it should be. I mean, if you 1018 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: think about that game that they played earlier this year, 1019 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 1: and granted it was with Sam Bradford as their quarterback, 1020 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: who's no longer even on that team Slash in the NFL, 1021 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 1: but that was a game where you shut them out 1022 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: and completely shut them down on offense, and so you 1023 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: know that you have that potential to do that absolutely 1024 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: that Yes, I think you can feel confident and have 1025 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: rest assured there you should win on that side of 1026 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: the ball. The other side, we'll have to wait and see. 1027 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: What does Sean McVay have up his sleeve if you 1028 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: don't have one of the best backs in the league. No, well, 1029 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,919 Speaker 1: I think in some ways you just kind of put 1030 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: it on your number one overall pick QB. Can he 1031 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: right himself by just throwing it out of it? Let's see. 1032 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what does the offense look like when if 1033 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: you have to go to that Yeah, you know you 1034 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 1: don't have Malcolm Brown too, right, because that's the biggest 1035 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: thing versus some guys down there that can really pass 1036 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: rush and they have the benefit of crowd noise. So 1037 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: that part we'll see. Defensively speaking, I think the Rams 1038 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: will be fine against the Cardinals. Well, the Cardinals also 1039 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: have one of the top corners in the league. I mean, 1040 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: we mentioned Chandler Jones early, but Patrick Peterson is still 1041 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: playing pretty well this season. Yeah, oh my god, And 1042 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 1: I swear he lives for games like this. He does, 1043 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, just one of those all around performances where 1044 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, he seems to rise to the occasion, 1045 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, like and wins the 1046 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: game almost by himself, either punt return or some stupid 1047 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 1: pick or gets the ball out, you know, just makes 1048 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 1: these kind of plays. Oh, he just drives you crazy. 1049 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: Towards the end of the year. One of Golf's interceptions 1050 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: this year was to Patrick Peterson in that beautiful I remember, yeah, 1051 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: beautiful pick too. And look, he's a complete guy. So 1052 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: if you're expecting him or you want the corners to 1053 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 1: make tackles today, okay, he'll oblige and he'll bring it. 1054 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: He's a good corner, Yeah he is. And that's again 1055 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: the Rams Now basically to me, these last couple weeks 1056 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: are about what the Rams can do for themselves. You know, okay, 1057 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: I'll do you one star. What the Rams are offensively 1058 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: going forward, That's That's where I'm at. You know, what 1059 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: are you going to be? What are you? Um? I 1060 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,240 Speaker 1: saw a renewed effort out of the Philadelphia Eagle defense 1061 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: when they kind of knew and it's not that hard 1062 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: to tell that you had to compromise running back on 1063 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: the other side, they just became a different group. Yea, 1064 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,399 Speaker 1: and that could happen against any defense that only has 1065 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: to face one phase of an offense. So we'll see, 1066 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 1: we will see. All right, Well, I think that will 1067 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: do it for this episode Between the Horns. Mark on 1068 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: any other parting shots, parting shot. You know what, bring 1069 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: a tape recorder next time. Bring a tape record because 1070 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: we talked to Jim Everett right before the game. We 1071 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: should interview. We should just do it right there and 1072 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: then play it on Between the Horns. Yeah, there's so 1073 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: much that goes on like before the game. That's true, 1074 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: isn't it, Like all the people that walk around, all 1075 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: the people that we see. Honestly, I really should have 1076 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: just pulled out my phone. That is a great idea. 1077 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: That's thank you coming soon to the next BTh XX. Yeah. 1078 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: Who on the sideline? We start on the sideline if 1079 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 1: if they say hi, we'll stop them and we'll play. Yeah. Yeah, 1080 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: we had a nice conversation with Jim Everett about this 1081 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: very same situation. So um, it's it's really cool. So 1082 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: that's my party shot there. Yeah, all right, shout out 1083 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: to Jim Everett. He says he's a listener. Yeah, so 1084 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: you should be like Jim Everett and subscribe to the show. 1085 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: God if he only, if he only knew what I 1086 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 1: tried to do to him when we were playing against 1087 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: each other. I don't think he would like me very much. 1088 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: But he's really cool. I love him. Good guy, Yeah, 1089 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 1: great guy. All right, Well, everybody, thanks so much for 1090 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: listening to this edition of Between the Horns. Kickoff this 1091 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: Sunday from the desert in Arizona. It's going to be 1092 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: a fox at one oh five Pacific. It'll be two 1093 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: oh five local. We will be on the sideline for 1094 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: RAMS Free Game Lab at about twelve twenty five Pacific. 1095 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 1: Until then, I forget when everybody